💬│palia-discussions

[pallid ferry]

If I see them again, I'll ping you both ❤️

[vagrant lotus]

yeah I'm at the point where I need to start collecting all the rugs and other UG furniture. I've picked up some but I'm probably missing most of it lmao

[loud axle]

Already a thread complaining about the RBF plushie on the Steam forums.

Wonder if people are chopping groves earlier now so that they can make sure to be in Pulsewater Plains and Hideaway Bluffs for the 3 am butterfly spawn 😛

[fiery perch]

i saw that haha

[midnight flame]

Ooh are both those rugs the spa rugs? If not, could you lmk what the one on the right is?

[fallow saffron]

[midnight flame]

Or the crow hopefully

[pallid ferry]

Left is the Spa Day Oval Rug, right is the Spa Day Fringe Rug

[midnight flame]

Tyty!

[young plank]

i dont remember who said the 50m method to take out the muujin but ty so much ❤️

[fast sonnet]

Y'all, I know this is off topic but I have to know why I am just now discovering Coral Island and whyyyyyy is it so good???

[loud axle]

It's amazing what you can do when you're actually passionate about making a good game ❤️

[cinder raptor]

Haven’t been in here or played for 4 months. Any positive changes from the dev team or management in regards to development of the game & community management or still.. underwhelming?
Also, any news on Palia coming to console or MacOS?

[jolly idol]

is this a new rug

[fiery sphinx]

Console sometime this year, but no news on MacOS. There is still an unofficial launcher for Mac though (if you have silicon). Development and community managemetn are... not improved.

[pallid ferry]

Yes, those are both the new Spa Rugs

[cinder raptor]

Oh yay can’t wait for console, hopefully a better experience than I have heard from switch players 🫣
Sad to hear that about management & dev, I wasn’t expecting great news on that.. thanks for the update!

[half oak]

omg who put me on the sixer tracker

im supposed to be a hidden chaos monster

[fiery perch]

Hey appy!

[fiery sphinx]

Looks like you better have a chat with Naz.

[half oak]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-no-leaving-im-leaving-im-done-gif-5445408

[red comet]

Sigh. What I wouldn't do for a taming system

[tribal jacinth]

what about chickens for chicken nuggets

[lucid hornet]

hey hold up, why we talking about killing pekis?

[tribal jacinth]

dont they look tasty, maybe than can make a good nugget

[pallid ferry]

@vagrant lotus and @tulip anvil to me!

[fiery perch]

ducks are taking over my mind. i read this and imagined 2 little ducks paddling over in a hurry 😭

[lucid hornet]

no they don't look tasty ._.

[placid haven]

DO EEEET! NMS is awesome!

[tribal jacinth]

nothing some seasoning cant fix

[lucid hornet]

[vagrant lotus]

noooo I'm eating dinner

sadness

[fiery perch]

oh also imma post this here too , i thought some folks in discussions would appreciate it.
(reference image used was from Ciri !)

[flint dagger]

Anybody know the drop rate for the Rainbow Butterfly Plush?

[fiery perch]

It's been reported to be a 1/25 drop chance

[placid haven]

cries The RNG for plushies in this game already hates me

[pallid ferry]

@vagrant lotus @tulip anvil I am once again summoning

[rare pine]

With how rare that bug is, the drop rate should be higher.

I've only ever seen 2 in my entire time playing.

[vagrant lotus]

if my gane loads fast enough, what's your ign?

[pallid ferry]

Moose of Mossflower

[vagrant lotus]

I won't make it but at least you're friended for next time lmaooo the load times on switch are trash

[fast sonnet]

Boat snack! 😄

[pallid ferry]

@vagrant lotus @tulip anvil Let's go!

[flint dagger]

Is it true that the rainbow tipped butterfly can sometimes spawn in flow groves?

[azure delta]

Yes! Rainbow-Tipped Butterfly, Fairy Mantis, Jewelwing Dragonfly, Ancient Amber Bettle or a magical creature (Azure Chapaa, Proudhorned Sernuk, Bluebristle Muujin) will spawn at a grove.

[pallid ferry]

Sometimes, but you basically have to be there when the grove spawns in case someone spooks it running into the trees, and a lure will not summon one (unless you're on the southside of the map)

[vagrant lotus]

I'm coming finally haha

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[pallid ferry]

About time!

[vagrant lotus]

thank you tank you for the rug! I don't even care about the fringe one tbh

[vagrant lotus]

I guess Ciri is offline and wont get the rug 😦

not this time anyway

[pallid ferry]

It seems to be easy to find if a couple people server hop

[vagrant lotus]

yeah that's good, at least it's not super rare in the shop like some stuff

[pallid ferry]

I still think it's odd that they didn't give us a proper list of the Spa Day items

[elfin sky]

Anyone knows if we still are going to get more potato pods, I don’t have them all.

[pallid ferry]

Possibly, though a lot of people would likely still be willing to trade

[steady fox]

I looked for it in the patch notes because they usually list it. Why none? 😭 leaving me guessing like that

[unborn crow]

anyone else have issues with the fast travel board under the ruins between the housing plot and and bahari bay????

[lethal granite]

can you be more specific about the location and issues you’re having with it? (caveat: if you’re on switch, generally all the fast travel boards are cursed 🫠 )

the folks in https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1135680775698792488 will probably be helpful

[viscid ruin]

Anyone know if the luna new year event ends in one hour

[lethal granite]

we do not know and idr when it ended last year. presumably when the day resets in-game (like when you can give gifts to villagers again if you gifted them already.)

short answer: not officially, but probably then.

[viscid ruin]

K

[ivory vessel]

someone in my server had the cloud and someone else randomly said, your cloud has a butt crack... cursed

[olive carbon]

......
"Hey Google, how do I unsee something? It's an emergency"

[snow remnant]

hallo! what did i miss since last night?

reporting on my end, i got the omiatta clothing and realized that the sassy pose came with it. Will this be the norm for future sets? - hope so / doubt it. Other than that, this set is the most plain i have seen. It is just something you can add and mix to other sets you already have. Veredict: 4/10.

[scarlet hazel]

I'll take simple clothes over the flashy nonsense that's been plaguing the store for awhile now

[snow remnant]

Also got the new landscape because it is pink and purple. Nice idea on the pool, but it lacks concept. I could have added some Grimalkin elements to make more sense. The ranch style entrance does not match the rest of the theme. But I dig the play mode, creative builders will probably come up with nice stuff. Honestly, this could have been a great freebie since it is very experimental and could have make more players put hours into this whole new building concept... just saying. Veredict: 5/10

[ivory vessel]

i'm so sorry 🫂 it shook me, too... don't think i'll ever recover

[scarlet hazel]

If that's a butt crack then I must be blind

[snow remnant]

the next companion will have to be a therapist... to work on this trauma

[vagrant lotus]

why did you have to HIGHLIGHT IT

[ivory vessel]

C U R S E D

[vagrant lotus]

my eyes

[lethal granite]

i don’t see anything wrong here. everything’s just peachy.

[snow remnant]

so Epiphany can have an epiphany

[vagrant lotus]

i pretend i do not see but how can I not see

[snow remnant]

Makes you think that the best part of that companion design is on the butt

[snow remnant]

"it is just a cloud" ... "beg to differ, it is a cloud with an intentionally designed very own butt.

[ivory vessel]

they're so blessed and they don't even realize

[vagrant lotus]

I said it was a fart, you're telling me the farts can fart? this games getting too meta

[ivory vessel]

according to the person wearing the cloud, it pees yellow lightning

[snow remnant]

omg i thought the same yesterday, i just thought it would be too cruel to call it a smiley fart xD

[ivory vessel]

also to all of you saying it looks worse on the listings than it does ingame: lies

[vagrant lotus]

I've been calling the orange one a nuclear fart Julius in my head

[snow remnant]

i am glad you pointed at the white elephant here 😮

got two more blank wish ribbons from Chayne * yay ...*

all i have got is renown from that thing, and the tree, and more renown

[marsh depot]

I like the simpler clothes too but I'd also rather take them at lower prices tbh.

[ivory vessel]

that's the whole reason i happened upon the abomination... i logged into the game to look up some premium store fares out of curiosity and then he sends me two ribbons, so i think, meh. might as well get some gold. so i go to the market and i see that interaction. and the cloud, in person. all this to say: chayne's fault we're having nightmares

[snow remnant]

simple clothes are the ones you get for free and can use to tone down the paid extravangent ones. This one goes a tad less than simple, more like plain.

[vagrant lotus]

the different colors do different stuff, I get tickets from mine

[snow remnant]

the clouds on my plot are bigger, and for free

[marsh depot]

It reminds me of another premium set that was released back in 2023 iirc? The one with a sweater.

[snow remnant]

i tried all three colors xD

[ivory vessel]

and they don't flash me their private bits

[marsh depot]

I saw a streamer with the cloud today and it just looks so bad tbh it's a literal walking photobomb

[placid haven]

This!

[haughty rover]

i wish more chappas spawn for the chappa hunt. When only 119 get caught but theres like 20+ people trying to get chappas.

[torn quiver]

is today the last day for lunar celebrations?

[thin summit]

Can anyone tell me how I gain access to the trading channel?

[opal cypress]

Here you go https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1326268508417429584 .
To participate in this channel you have to agree to the Rules by reacting to [this comment](#🤝│trading message ).

Make sure to "Add to Channel List", to have it visible at all times.

[hollow crescent]

yea

!market

[opal cypress]

Maji Market will be running for a week, every four weeks. To preview what that looks like, these are the weeks Maji Market will be active.

• From January 23rd to February 20th, Maji Market will transform to celebrate Luna New Year.
• <t:1740470400:F> to <t:1741075140:F>
• <t:1742886000:F> to <t:1743490740:F>
• Continuing every 4 weeks

[spark haven]

I may be late to the party for all this
But did anyone notice the door to the night temple is open now?? Or at least we can walk to another door inside

[thin summit]

Does anyone know if we can get the sticker packs from mining as well?

[spark haven]

From my personal experience I've gotten them from hunting and bug catching- not sure about mining

[olive carbon]

At least 4 of the stickers available are of Hodari and one he's even holding a pick axe- I think you are able to get them from all functional skills but I'd be interested to know for sure

[thin summit]

Okay, thank you both! If I get one from mining I'll definitely drop a post about it!

[austere ginkgo]

anyone know when the luna market is ending today

[vocal egret]

i saw pple talking about the cloud and wanted to add that im still not recovering seeing it in the wild (why he peeing on my fluterfox tho???)

[spark haven]

Hot take: it'd be cuter without the face and if it was 800 coins

[vocal egret]

i dont think thats an hot take :'3 tbh 800 is way too much for it in that state but if the face was not a dumb jpeg yeah (i still wouldnt buy it anyway ihihih)

i thought it was an april fool the first time i saw it???

[spark haven]

Imo 425 is the better price for it but compared to seventeen dollars @? My flutterfox was cheaper than that

[vocal egret]

yeah absolutely (it didnt even click in my head that the flutterfox are cheaperrr ommmmg)

[vagrant lotus]

oh noooooo not the twinkle tinkle

[vocal egret]

agahahahahahahah lmfao no-

[vagrant lotus]

[tranquil musk]

I am sure somewhere someone is laughing their heads off with us trying to get a RTB plushie.... Because it is a joke... not funny but a big fat joke.... It rarely spawns not even with lures and being in a party.... when you do finally catch one (wow no plushie) ... At least give us one for every other butterfly.... how many do you have to catch.... I am upset very upset after catching a few playing almost through the night and what do you know.... yes no plushie

[vagrant lotus]

supposedly the rng is about 1/25 so you're basically rolling a 25 sided die every time you catch one. Statistically it would only take 25, realistically it will probably take about 100 for you but 2 for someone else. It's just computer generated luck

[tranquil musk]

You first have to find one and that is the biggest joke....

[vagrant lotus]

yeah, they are super rare, it's a mess out there. I've seen one period lmao

it went straight to my bundle and thank the dragon I finished the bundle before this madness

[tranquil musk]

I love butterflies and i really want one or more but all the time and effort? I don't know I am very patient and tolerated everything so far but I don't think it is worth it.....

In order for me to get away from this butterfly madness I have to stop playing... it will drive me bonkers...

[vagrant lotus]

yeah I feel you, I just don't bother with it. I'm not driven by the need to collect plushies as much I guess. If I ever by chance get one, I'll tag you and give it to you.

[placid haven]

Dude, I have slaughtered thousands of chapaas since that plushie came out and still do not have a single chapaa plushie from hunting. The RNG in this game is an absolute joke.

[tranquil musk]

They could have increased the spawn rate or lowered the rng but nooooooooo then they wont have something to laugh about...

[vagrant lotus]

Absolutely. I got the proudhourned plush my first few hunts of it and I've never gotten any mujiin or chapaa plush yet

[placid haven]

I just have banded mujiin, not the other two, and only the lower two sernuk and the one that drops from zeki's machine. But ZERO chapaas. I've tried for 2 days on fish plushies and have 2.

[vagrant lotus]

those are the only ones I actually want to collect lmao you're right, the rng is a huge joke

[placid haven]

I've complained about it numerous times in feedback and all I get is 'working as intended'

[vagrant lotus]

I still haven't gotten the yellow koi, but have like 30 catfish

[tranquil musk]

I cant even tell you how many mujins or chapas I had to kill for the plushies I have... it is ridiculous...

[placid haven]

And then I've seen streamers get a half dozen plushies in a 2 hour stream. Like wtf!?!? Do not tell me it's not broken when I can see literal evidence it is.

[vagrant lotus]

this is why I love the luck system in SDV. It's not perfect, but several artifical RNG boosts are perfect for the style of game this is and I wish the devs would take notes

inb4 "but muh economy" I'd like to remind any lurking eyes that there is no economy without proper player trading that's not just plush and stickers.

[tranquil musk]

The ones responsible for creating this have very dark humor and is laughing continuously.... I don't find it funny and after more than 2000 hours I am upset for the first time ever....

[vagrant lotus]

you have far more patience than I, I've got just under a quarter of what you do and I'm already pretty peeved

[tranquil musk]

As I said very patient person it took this to upset me.... I hope someone from S6 reads this and feels bad

[vagrant lotus]

You definitely aren't alone in that feeling. I wish I had more encouraging things to say but I just hope things cool off soon and the game levels out, when elderwoods comes out you'll definitely get a chance to see some butterflies, I think everyone will be occupied with the update

[tranquil musk]

True thanks for letting me vent... I am usually the encourager but talking to you helped cool me down a bit... Thank you

[oak turtle]

Question for the players, what's your favorite npc?

[tranquil musk]

Einar he is sooo funny when you romance him.....

[vagrant lotus]

anytime, this channel is usually the one of venting and sometimes getting feedback directly where it needs to go, so hopefully they've been seeing the response to the last updates

[oak turtle]

OH PLEASE I've hardly talked to him but I should. I'm focused on big forge woman and her angsty son

Also Jina. Jina was made to romance

[tranquil musk]

Einar keeps telling me not to expire until we speak again...

And if I do he will be sad

[oak turtle]

Awww he loves you...
I love how Hekla is always telling you to go on playdayes with Jina and find her suitable friends

[tranquil musk]

Hekla is a character on his own.... I like him for being so protective over Jina...

[placid haven]

Well, that was ROOOD. They shut off the market in the middle of a cycle. JFC S6, get your poo together

[oak turtle]

Is Hekla she/they/he? To be fair Hekla is a robot and probably doesn't care either way lol

[brisk spruce]

Hekla is she/her, all of the game text refers to her as "she"

[tranquil musk]

I was thinking the same while typing I did not know how to address him/her/it/they????

Oh ok thank you did not know...

[oak turtle]

I thought Hekla was she, I just wasn't sure

[brisk spruce]

I only spoke up because it was asked lol I totally get why people might not notice, especially if you don't read dialog often

[tranquil musk]

But keeping in mind that she was caring for a child it makes sense...

[brisk spruce]

and Einar is referred to as he/him in case anyone is second guessing now lmao

[tranquil musk]

Thanks....

I like Ashure as well... he is a very caring helpful gentleman

[brisk spruce]

who did you pick as your shepp? or if you didnt pick yet who do you want to pick?

[tranquil musk]

I play on 3 accounts and on all 3 I picked Einar.... I love his quirkiness....

[frigid plank]

I picked Hassian. Lots of girls pick their favourite romance character as their shepp!

[tranquil musk]

Good for you.... I am too old for romance..

[frigid plank]

Oh haha, so many different ages play palia

[tranquil musk]

Yes I played with someone that was 78.... but he got sick.... hope he comes back

[frigid plank]

I hope he's okay!
(I'm still a teen lol)

[tranquil musk]

The strangest thing I noticed is that when people friend you and ask your age... especially the younger generation.... they just disappear... very strange maybe they don't relate to the older generation.....

I may be old but I feel 16!

[placid haven]

Same! I do not do the romance thing in any game except to get the extra stuff. Not interested!

[tranquil musk]

I really am not interested in romance only did it for the accomplishment..

[placid haven]

Yup

[tranquil musk]

To be truthful I hate talking to the NPC's

[placid haven]

lol, the ones I have maxed on friendship and romance I never speak to now, lol

Except Tau, I will always stop to chat with the pupper

[tranquil musk]

Me neither I am with you... not even Tau although I love him too

[frigid plank]

Do you mean you ask for their age?
Some younger people can feel uncomfortable when adults ask this, as there are people that aren't so nice on the internet. A guy asked for my instagram on palia knowing I was only 14

[tranquil musk]

Oh no I never ask and never offer.... It only comes up when someone asks me and offer their age.... I am at the stage where I want to lie about my age but cant because that is not me...

[frigid plank]

Oh ok, that's a bit weird they disappear... you shouldn't have to tell them your age. Though I think it's good to interact with people of other ages! I have friends that are younger and much older than me :)

[brisk spruce]

I'm much older than that and I still wouldn't give a random person in a game my outside socials lmao. maybe discord because I only use it for games anyway. such a strange question. definitely don't ever feel like you need to share that kind of thing with people

[tranquil musk]

People are curious and when you have them on your friend list they ask personal questions and I answer because I don't want to be rude....

[frigid plank]

I know, I let them know that I felt uncomfortable, and they brushed it off saying that kids "shouldn't be playing a game like this anyway"
Palia is a 10+ game...

[tranquil musk]

That is unacceptable I hope you blocked whoever it was...

[brisk spruce]

if they think kids shouldn't be playing Palia they have even less of a reason to be asking you for outside social accounts sounds like a creep

[frigid plank]

You should never have to answer. Sometimes I'll ask some questions when they open up to me, but I would never feel offended if they didn't want to answer a personal question

[brisk spruce]

I'm sorry you had to talk to someone like that 🫂

[frigid plank]

Thank you!
Though others defended him saying it wasn't that deep.
I left that server immediately and I have met some wonderful people on palia!

[tranquil musk]

That is good...

[sleek abyss]

Palia is honestly designed for a younger playerbase lol

[tranquil musk]

I mean mmeting wonderful people...

[frigid plank]

I also would never venture farther than possibly asking their career and only if they start talking to me about their life first.

[tranquil musk]

As I said I feel 16 although I am ooooold....

[frigid plank]

It's what's in the soul that counts

[brisk spruce]

I think this happens to most people sometimes I do a double take and realize I'm not in college anymore

[tranquil musk]

Good idea maybe I will just say I am from the older generations...

Time flies so fast....

[sleek abyss]

well, having fun doesn't have an age limit

[tranquil musk]

That is true and I am having a lot of fun.... apart from the RTB plushie

[frigid plank]

Palia is usually a very friendly and fun environment and I've spent a lot of time roaming it's lands!

So excited for the elderwoods btw!!!!

[tranquil musk]

Me too I currently go through the motions and give everything I gather away...

[frigid plank]

I am still finish8ng up the bundles... I've been putting off doing all the epic fish 😭 😭 😭

[tranquil musk]

Sometimes I will go find rare bugs or fish for people that needs it... just to have a purpose for logging in.... keeping in mind I have 3 accounts maxed out

[sleek abyss]

damn you are deep into this

[frigid plank]

I've found a starred and non starred fairy mantis but I still can't find a rainbow tipped butterfly?!

[tranquil musk]

That butterfly is making me crazy I want lots of plushies....

[frigid plank]

And don't tell me I can do those bug things I'm a hoarder and I am keeping every single one of those gold bars in my locked chest 😝

[tranquil musk]

Hahahaha

[frigid plank]

I have been hoarding my renown too at one point I was at 5000 and realised my focus was still on 250... it's bad

[tranquil musk]

You are too young too hoard things....

[frigid plank]

I really also enjoy doing cooking parties - not for the money but for the really nice people you meet

[tranquil musk]

That is good and also try to get to the grove first I caught a few RTB there

[frigid plank]

Huh... I thought they only spawned during the day?

[tranquil musk]

At every grove you will find either an epic bug or magic animal...

[frigid plank]

Again, as a hoarder, I don't often go to groves as I have 500 logs in my chests already 🥲

[tranquil musk]

Oh no....

[frigid plank]

I just realised what RTB means lol....

[tranquil musk]

Sorry I thought you knew...

[frigid plank]

I thought I knew all the palia lingo and then a RTB comes up... I figured it out though

[tranquil musk]

Good for you ... now get rid of some of the things in your storage and go out and gather more.... that is the fun part.... sell and give away

[frigid plank]

I know I knowwww

I feel like selling it is a waste and its bad and idk why I have 200 grilled meat don't ask please...

Hey what's your IGN? Mines kaekae24 if you wanna be friends :)

[tranquil musk]

Do you know about the accomplishments you can do and for it you get renown or something....

I am playing on the account... Lady Daleen... at the moment

[frigid plank]

Okay tyyy I forgot you have 3 accounts, do you have to have separate steam accounts for that?

[tranquil musk]

Yes

[frigid plank]

Also I'm excited for a similar game to palia called Infinity Nikki, it's slightly girly but it's coming to steam!!!

[tranquil musk]

I watched videos about it but I think it is more for the younger generation... not something I will play..

[frigid plank]

I can like it if I want and I don't care if people think I'm too 'cutesy' 😝

I think the generation is perfect for me!

[tranquil musk]

Good for you....

You do you and others can do whatever....

[frigid plank]

Also what's your favourite skill in palia?

Stop talking to.me if it's gardening 🙄 (jk)

[brisk spruce]

oh there's a looot of people who have been enjoying that one, sometimes people post screenshots of their Infinity Nikki outfits in #💬│off-topic-chat

[tranquil musk]

All of it... I am good with everything...

[frigid plank]

It's coming to steam which is exciting cause I'm not really wanting to download epic games 😅 and steam is good cause it has the majority of the games I play on it

[tranquil musk]

True I only play games on steam....

[frigid plank]

The way you do the three dots make your statements sound so menacing lol 😆

[tranquil musk]

Hahaha... it is just something I do... no menace intended...

[frigid plank]

I can tell you don't do it that way and it's just the way you communicate but I thought it was kind of funny!

[tranquil musk]

It is funny.... when I looked at it again I saw what you did... Laughing where I sit

[frigid plank]

I love it when you originally begin the conversation actually relating to palia and slowly but steadily it gets so off topic!

[sleek abyss]

is it not out yet? i thought it was already released?

[frigid plank]

I think it's released but not on steam correct me if I'm wrong tho

[tranquil musk]

It is out I watched videos of people playing...

[sleek abyss]

Oh, it was released last dec on epic games

[frigid plank]

Even on steam? I might go download it now then!

😭

[tranquil musk]

Ah ok not yet out on steam...

[frigid plank]

It's not out on steam yet 🥲

I would get it on epic games but that would mean getting epic games and my computer has no storage and it's a bit of a hassle...
Also i don't want to forget about palia just yet!

[tranquil musk]

It doesn't say when it will come out on steam... hold out a bit you still need to get rid of stuff in your storage and go gather more...

[frigid plank]

Thanks for the advice... what game shall I delete? 😔

[tranquil musk]

No wait for steam dont get rid of anything

[sleek abyss]

could also be just a pre-release on epic? better to just wait for it on steam

[tranquil musk]

Agree

[frigid plank]

Yep that's what I'll do i wonder how much storage it needs?

[tranquil musk]

Do you have one or more hard drives in you PC

[placid haven]

I'm sitting on my hands telling myself not to buy Hello Kitty on steam

[frigid plank]

50gb?!?!?!?!?!? 😭 😭 😭 😭

[tranquil musk]

Why?

[placid haven]

Bills to pay this week. It's not in the budget until later this month, lol.

[frigid plank]

Please help I have 75 and I was keen to get another game with similar amounts too 😔
Also I have to go it was nice chatting with yall!

[tranquil musk]

Aaah I see I think you must wait bills are more important...

[sleek abyss]

STAHPP i been hestating buying it too asjfha

[tranquil musk]

Whenever your birthday is tell someone to get you more storage....

[placid haven]

Well, bills are more urgent. I wouldn't classify them as important except for the fact that paying them keeps a roof over my head and the internet running, lol

And my cats do like being inside and having full tummies, too

[tranquil musk]

Hence the more important you don't want to sleep on the street...

[placid haven]

Pretty much

And speaking of sleep, time for me to do just that. Gummies finally kicked in. Night all!

[tranquil musk]

Ok I am out also going to have lunch... nice talking to you

[placid haven]

You too!

[weak wigeon]

they messed up paths again -_-

Btw I ABSOLUTELY love that they're adding more and more glowy flowers, it's sooo magical and looks awesome at night ❤️

To be honest idk if the paintbrush flower is glowy or just too bright bc of the light haha but i like it a lot!

[frigid plank]

In a usb? My storage is the actual computer storage since I have a school computer and I can't place my games in the school storage space...

[fresh leaf]

I use square pavers so I think I’m alone in the entire fan base that I’m happy with the glitch because they’re all perfectly the same? 🫣

[mint sierra]

This particular issue is mentioned in the recent patch notes.. https://palia.com/news/patch-189#bugfixes

This isn't the first time this occurs, I personally just leave the pavers alone, and the next time it is patched, it visually will look normal again.

[weak wigeon]

hahahah smart 😭 i just love me an asymmetric path :p

[weak wigeon]

i know! I used to have the round log-like ones! I was like huuhhhhh something's off.... and i took a long time to realize what it was LOL

[swift token]

I'm seeing 🍄 of some sort, lol. Looks cool 😎 😁😅

[austere ginkgo]

hi guys anyone know a website or two where I can preview all decor items? TIA

[weak wigeon]

hahaha true!

[swift token]

Paliapedia perhaps?

[fresh leaf]

Wait. If I pick up all my pavers and place them back down, will they all be the same when they fix it???

[mint sierra]

leaving your pavers as they are .. looking as they are as it is merely a visual bug.. once fixed they will look normal again

if you move them now, they wont place normally.. not the size ones.. anyhow.. reg pavers are fine

so the bug is atm , cannot cycle through sizes.. any pavers that are different sizes placing down..

best not to mess with yours ..

[dry swift]

Good morning everyone 🙂

[marsh depot]

Does anyone know if they fixed the wheel at LNY at the last minute? I went on before it closed last night and finally hit the jackpot wish I had saved up my coins but I didn't think they'd actually fix it

[mint sierra]

Gold was giving the 4k

only noticed it a couple days ago..

[dry swift]

Glad they finally fixed that graphical bug

[mint sierra]

not sure about others, as I have not played much before then.. just saved coins up

but def was only this week.

[mint sierra]

Better late than never, and hopefully next year as appypie said the spawn rates will be fixed again

[dry swift]

I appreciate that Appy is also actively coming in here and asking for bugs to fix then fixing them in as reasonable amount of time as possible.

[mint sierra]

He honestly in opinion really is trying and has pushed and passed on notes, we can see the changes

[marsh depot]

I'm pretty sure I only noticed it last night, I have screenshots from 2 days ago still with the incorrect result, but I'm guessing might have been fixed after the patch. Just wish they had mentioned it somewhere

[mint sierra]

yah that is pretty much all I have noted too.. since the patch.. which is day 3 for me now..

[marsh depot]

Yeah, I appreciate that, it at least feels like we're being heard a tiny bit

[mint sierra]

Yes definitely! at least it is a move in the right direction ..

slow but we are having some progress xd

[weak wigeon]

I placed a gourmet dessert plate on the stool and now it's inside of it and can't pick it up omg 😭

[hollow crescent]

make sure to bug report that

[weak wigeon]

this is what i get for trying to glitch stuff

[lyric night]

u should usually be able to highlight the plate nonetheless
otherwise just do the classic -> place in room, remove room

[hard basin]

Just look away till it got highlighted

[hollow crescent]

adds to notes

[ivory vessel]

ah so the cursed zeki doll treatment, i see

[novel zinc]

can you guys increase the spawn rate of RTB?

because my boss will be angry.

[dry swift]

Playing Palia at work I see? Respectable.

[olive carbon]

Good morning discussions! As I feared, you can get dupes of stickers! And as expected, I hate it!

[pallid ferry]

Yeah, I got 2 sets of duplicates already. I just stood at the sticker trade booth and took whatever was offered

[fiery perch]

Yeah, sadly it makes sense since theyre supposed to be tradeable i guess :/

[marsh depot]

I mean, I guess it makes sense if they're supposed to be tradeable but... Yeah.

[olive carbon]

Gacha Lite (now with trading) ((no pity))

[runic eagle]

I'd love to hear from others how often you seem to be getting drops on these stickers just out of curiosity.
I hear some people saying they have tons already and then I hear others saying they have been playing for over 10 hours straight and only received 1 or 2 drops.

[marsh depot]

Palia, now with 10% more gacha! /hj

[pallid ferry]

When you get them from doing skills, is it random? I didn't track anything special when I received mine while doing skills.

[runic eagle]

They are randomly given according to the patch notes while doing skills yeah, but how often people are getting them seems to be varying from the chats I have heard in game and from friends of mine too. That's why I'd love to hear more feedback from others here.

[olive carbon]

We literally got one (?) sentence on the mechanics so the rest of the information has and will be player collected, as usual.

[runic eagle]

If yall hear anything interesting please ping me and lmk

[marsh depot]

Once again, we are the unpaid QA testers

[ivory vessel]

but it's not beta okay!!!!! 😤 /sarcasm

[lyric night]

Yup
the droprate is around 0.2-0.5% (depending on activity, fishing is the highest iirc) but its balanced out by the fact u get them from anything so its reasonable
(including tilling ur garden and opening oysters)

the stickers in the pack have different rarities, I'm too lazy to get the exact rate for every sticker, maybe next week after my exam is over

[lucid hornet]

cant wait for the 1.0 release with console & elderwoods, just bcs nobody can say "but its beta" ever again.

[vagrant lotus]

so far I got one last night. I wish turning off stickers also turned off the stickers themselves, but it just removes them from your view if someone uses them. I wish the sticker wheel would go away for me, my keyboard rig is enough to quick chat on switch for me

[lyric night]

"oh but the game just launched into 1.0 we should be a bit more fogiving"

[ivory vessel]

"gotta give them the benefit of the doubt 😭"

[olive carbon]

That's a lot of hope there pal /friendly jestering (will it ever come out of beta??!)

[vagrant lotus]

if I get a sticker pack before I get the shiny smooth pebble, I'm gonna lose it

[lucid hornet]

well, at least not the beta excuse, getting sick of that one

[ivory vessel]

you KNOW you'll get hundreds of stickers before the pebble

[lyric night]

u are more likely to get a stickerpack than the smooth pebble

[marsh depot]

there will always be a delulu excuse sadly

[runic eagle]

Please give me a ping Tiny whenever you get any info, I'd appreciate it a lot

[fiery perch]

"it's a small indie team"

[vagrant lotus]

it'll just be "it's a free game!1!1!1!" instead of "it's in beta!1!1!1!"

[marsh depot]

iT's jUst a FreE gAmE

[young plank]

I played all day and have yet to receive a pack. I only have the ones you got from the twitch drops

[fiery sphinx]

A free game where one outfit costs as much as a full game with actual content. 🙄

[lucid hornet]

they already use that one. the same copes over 2 years are getting boring.

[marsh depot]

they will continue to use that excuse till the end of time

[pallid ferry]

I got 2 stickers while hunting for that silly snail plush. I got duplicates from the Twitch drops.

[lucid hornet]

yeah they will, still hoping for some new ones. something thats worth a laugh, ok.. at least an exhale.

[vagrant lotus]

that's what really ruffles my feathers, everything in the shop costs more than Stardew Valley did, and I bought SDV twice. One for switch and one for PC

[marsh depot]

I'd even rather buy SDV on mobile than ever pay for that ridiculous cloud fart

[fiery sphinx]

Same. If I have to choose between buying games that actually bring me joy and buying cosmetics in Palia, I'm going for other games all day long.

[vagrant lotus]

tbh I have considered having the mobile app just cause,so maybe I'll pay for SDV 3 times. Still a better value to buy the same game multiple times than anything in the cash shop

[pallid ferry]

Cinnabunny released yesterday on steam and its CUTEEEE

[marsh depot]

The only thing that was close to worth it in the cash shop was the capsule bundle but even then, yes, I'd rather just give CA all my money

I also did purchase Terraria on mobile and it's a 100 times more worth it

[fiery sphinx]

And even if I did want to buy any of the ridiculous outfits in Palia, I'm still furious over the nonexistent VFX toggle. So I won't buy them on principle.

[vagrant lotus]

I'd legit rather pay a monthly subscription for SDV than spend money in Palia rn

[fiery sphinx]

I am guilty of buying that one, but it was when it first came out and I was still delusional.

[near lance]

how do i get more reactions for my housing plot in game house?

[marsh depot]

I'm not complaining about buying it tbh, I liked it enough. But after the whole fiasco of events and WC's statements, it really did turn me off from purchasing cosmetics ever again.

[fiery sphinx]

I'm just tired of them putting stupid effects on outfits and charging ridiculous prices for them. The most recent outfit could have been free, but they gave it a dumb idle pose. 🙄

[fiery sphinx]

Oh, they definitely won't ever get a dollar out of me again. For anything. I stand by all my previous statements re their idiotic monetization policies. All of them.

[fiery perch]

Posting in #🏡│home-reactions and hoping for the best, really. apparently there's a decent time to "feature" your home on the housing tour board but idk too much about that. :\

It really is just luck of the draw, unfortunately.

[fiery perch]

Did you read their system requirements on steam? it makes me giggle

[pallid ferry]

I remember when I first bought the Soothsayer outfit, I loved the horns. But since the outfit preview doesn't show you all the effects of the outfits, I didn't know that the horns got "mossy" if you stay still. I thought it looked like mold so had to ask for a refund to buy a different swatch.

[vagrant lotus]

yeah, I accidentally submitted my default plot a few weeks ago, 7 reactions. I listed an empty plot just to see what would happen and im pretty sure it already has more than 10 reactions

[marsh depot]

Yeah, I have played gachas that are actually more F2P friendly than Palia ever will be. They don't seem to understand that if they don't keep their players engaged, then they won't get any money.

[pallid ferry]

I didn't, but thats absolutely GOLDEN

[fiery perch]

Aww! Those in specific are my fav, esp cuz if you move, dew droplets fall/splash off

[fiery perch]

"Sound Card: Put your head inside a tuba while your best friend goes crazy"

[fiery sphinx]

And I'm pretty sure Nikki is about to drop housing and put the final nail in Palia's coffin. This bit in their last announcement makes me think furniture dyeing:

But here's a twist: this time, it won't be clothing that you'll be dyeing—what exactly you'll be dyeing is a mystery, so stay tuned for future previews!

[fiery perch]

yeah if i remember, i'll put my plot up there but i rarely ever get anything. i dont rly mind anyways. i dont care for the nameplates. but it's just interesting to see sometimes.

[marsh depot]

As soon as Nikki releases housing , I'm uninstalling Palia, no joke.

[vagrant lotus]

yeah I don't want the nameplays, I just know someone said that empty plots get a bunch of attention for some reason so I had a Bilbo Baggins "why shouldn't I" moment

[fiery sphinx]

You won't be the only one. Nikki already lets me pet the chickens. When they let me own the chickens, I will have no reason to ever log back in to Palia.

[olive carbon]

Nikki on switch when (entirely joking )

[scarlet hazel]

Elderwoods is probably just gonna be the same thing as bahari. Big area with nothing to do except a new quest line that's incredibly short or difficult cause of starred items.

The huntable creatures either like the deer or they're ridiculously difficult like the muujin were when first released

[marsh depot]

unless...

for real though, the game looks amazing even on lower/medium settings and is way more optimised than Palia will ever be (despite it having it's own issues too)

[fiery sphinx]

It's hitting Steam soon...

I play Nikki on my potato just fine. No issues and no crashing.

[scarlet hazel]

Nikki looks really nice but I don't like not being able to make my own character so it isn't for me sadly 😔

[marsh depot]

They don't even need to give me chickens, just give me the cottagecore house of my dreams

[olive carbon]

I just wouldn't want them to be hindered by anything, their development progress is astounding to me and I forsee steamdeck being a much more viable option!!!

[vagrant lotus]

I just don't understand why: standard arrow = 1 shot on regular sernuk and chapaa, but literally every other arrow in the game takes 2-3 hits minimum to hunt the stronger ones and the magic ones are ridiculous. Fine arrows should be able to one hit stripped chapaa AT LEAST

[olive carbon]

this will maybe mean it's coming to GFN!!!

[marsh depot]

I am highly considering getting a steamdeck when I'm able to just to play Nikki and Stardew on the go

[fiery sphinx]

They're giving you a whole ISLAND. And every decor item in the world is obtainable, so you won't have the issue of say... looking at Tamala's house and wishing you could have her stuff and devs laughing in your face.

[pallid ferry]

Being able to interact with animals is

[fiery perch]

I keep wanting to get a steamdeck for my brother, just because how much better some games would be to play compared to the switch.

[fiery sphinx]

I'm thinking that's probably the reason for the Steam release. Or I hope!

[marsh depot]

Understandable. I think a lot of people miss out the fact Nikki is her own character so its more akin to playing a game with a protagonist.

[ivory vessel]

i wanted to let yall know that the cloud would cost me 65 buckaroos in my currency. by the way. just casually dropping this.

[marsh depot]

Or the tints they keep refusing to release

[scarlet hazel]

I'm surprised you can't even pet the omruus at the farm. Like even WoW let's you pet specific animals now that are coded to allow it.

[vagrant lotus]

like this new elderwoods creature is either going to be impossible to hunt because our arrows are crap or its just gonna be lame

[scarlet hazel]

I'm mining every ore node I can find to upgrade my tools as fast as possible tbh

[marsh depot]

It would cost 63 capybucks in my currency

[fiery perch]

i want to add, that with the hair style options and clothing options, it does feel like (for me anyways) that i am making my own character in some regard but that's how i feel with it personally

[scarlet hazel]

If it will upgrade past pallium and isn't just useless ore for whatever it's gonna be made for

[fiery sphinx]

The cloud is still an abomination that shouldn't exist.

[ivory vessel]

it's an absurdity. 65 is a dish in a fancy restaurant i'll never go to cuz i can't afford it. what are they htinking

[vagrant lotus]

don't bother, I have an exquisite bow, dispel/fine arrows and I still hunt better in Kilima, with people even

[marsh depot]

And they're adding more skintones in the future iirc!

[pallid ferry]

I really hope they plan to release all the tints before Elderwoods. It feels like easy "content" drop that lets them focus on bugs and the Elderwoods.

[fiery sphinx]

They're trying to figure out a way to charge us for them, probably.

[scarlet hazel]

Mmm true. But I can't see anything far away so I'd like the new tools to take things down way quicker at least lol

[ivory vessel]

that would only be simple and obvious, but S6 doesn't do simple nor obvious

[marsh depot]

Same here, I can literally go to the 4 star restaurant down my block and get a full course menu.

[fiery perch]

and dont forget that, upgrading your bow doesnt increase damage. it just makes shooting farther easier

[pallid ferry]

I want a slow+dispell arrow if they give us more difficult hunting in Elderwoods. I already prefer to use extra arrows on the Elder Sernuk just to slow it down

[vagrant lotus]

yeah I feel you but I still have to stand far away from all the mujiin and all the chapaa, or they dissappear and regain health

[scarlet hazel]

Yeah. Id at least use the new arrows if there are going to be any. Maybe they could one shot a spotted chapaas even

[ivory vessel]

but let's be honest. will the full course meal show you a sick butt crack? /sarcasm

[fiery perch]

i mean it might-

[fiery sphinx]

Maybe. Is there wine?

[vagrant lotus]

$65 is the cost of me and my husband getting a casual dinner with no drinks in this economy. We barely eat out. S6 is nuts if they think I'd even pay the ~$18 for a fart cloud, let alone an outfit that would give me a migraine lol

[marsh depot]

perchance

[marsh depot]

They keep giving us the "Free outfits?? in this economy???" but then go "pls give us your money you dont have"

[ivory vessel]

literally could buy a large pizza + soda for me and my mom and we'd have dinner for 2 nights. yep. same

[pallid ferry]

AGAIN, a VFX toggle for outfits would encourage so many more players to buy them

[ivory vessel]

no can do it was never in the plans

[marsh depot]

Sadly I think this shows the outfits are literally just to flex how much money you've spent in the game.

[ivory vessel]

best i can do with S6 funds and mentality is cheap beer-

[runic eagle]

I don't make too many comments about Premium Shop items but this pet cloud is something else for sure 😂
Has anyone seen anyone with one yet in game?

[vagrant lotus]

but muh economy

I think they just mean their wallets when they say this cause anyone with a brain knows Palia doesn't have a game economy

[ivory vessel]

#💬│palia-discussions message sadly yes

[pallid ferry]

I have, but I refuse to believe that anyone bought it. SURELY it's only the partners who got them for free....

[olive carbon]

Just forwarding that tidbit for further discussion

[fiery perch]

I've seen people post screenshots with it

[marsh depot]

Oh I meant as in like, how they keep saying that giving free content would kill the game but AGREED

[ivory vessel]

also can confirm cuz i went back through the patch notes and that checks out.

0.175 (dec/23) // 0.189 (this week)

*edit: that's a WHOLE bundle vs one outfit

[vagrant lotus]

also to further add to this, the math I did the other day. Buying everything in the shop with the $99 packs of coins would cost you about $3k

[vivid oar]

Iv seen quite a few, the little trick they have is cute, they make lightening and stuff. I kinda wish their face matched their colour tho, so the red one was mad and so on

[fiery sphinx]

Crabs is delusional.

[void sierra]

I have one. I thought it was cute lol

[runic eagle]

The cloud would've been okay if it hovered "above your head" and they had left the face off of it and just had like rain/snow/lightening, falling down etc.

[marsh depot]

His statements are even more ironic to me considering he worked in Riot like... Riot fed players free/earnable content for years and now that they've gone back on it everyone is fuming. Now many players are actually refusing to spend a dime because of the changes.

[fiery sphinx]

You paid for... that. I will pray for you.

[void sierra]

off to the side is a bit weird but it grew on me lol

[vagrant lotus]

I would totally have approved faceless depression cloud but it pees on other people's pets and the orange one probably stinks like a Chipotle bathroom in Dallas

[vivid oar]

All the pets have always been kinda lore accurate, I guess the backpack on the ferret was a bit odd but could suspend disbelif. The cloud doesnt really make sense lol. I dont hate it or anything, its cute in its own way just sticks out from the rest a bit

[ivory vessel]

the static emotionless face is definitely the worst part about it, because it's so cheap

[fiery sphinx]

I just can't get past that nonsense about the slightest drips of free earning bankrupting the game. First of all, stop acting like we want your garbage premium outfits for free because we've asked time and time again for something simple that we can earn and second, tell me what game. Tell me right now.

[marsh depot]

I also saw someone ran into another player with it and I wonder if it's just thin air or if you can actually see something inside.

[void sierra]

it has character

[marsh depot]

I really wanted to ask him the data on this because it just didn't make sense whatsoever. And then his "those who don't value our cosmetics at base price" made me livid.

[fiery sphinx]

This comment made my day.

[vagrant lotus]

it's all based on the fact that he though we were asking to get premium stuff for free, but we were really asking for more basic free stuff to be added, specifically more masc options and some hats would be cool to earn through the guild shops. But WC misunderstood what was asked and now we gotta ask again

[fiery perch]

didnt they mention that stickers were supposed to be a new way to 'earn things' in the game? (not in these patch notes, but in a previous blog?) lol like.. yeah, more rng. very earnable. thanks.

[pallid ferry]

Listening to a streamer yesterday who had the cloud equipped: "I hate the face, it absolutely breaks immersion, but I don't have to look at the face so LOL."

[fiery sphinx]

I don't value the cosmetics because they have no value. Most of them are ugly and the price is INSANE.

[ivory vessel]

and it has a butt crack

[void sierra]

the face disappers if you look at it from the side

[vagrant lotus]

oh yEAH

[scarlet hazel]

I'm surprised we haven't seen WC at all with how much the shop is being brought up

[fiery perch]

Yep. I was right. They said it was more earnables here: https://www.palia.com/news/mini-dev-blog-zlc

what a joke.

[fiery sphinx]

Yes. Freaking trash. I do not want the stickers. Like, I like the idea of the base 8 providing chat accesibility for Switch and controller players... but the rest of them are garbage that do not need to exist. This should have just been a quick-chat wheel. Full stop.

[void sierra]

the buttcrack

[ivory vessel]

a way to express yourself that you gotta pay for + people can simply choose to not see it

[vagrant lotus]

tbh I'm probably gonna be like that peace out kid dissapearing from this game after the elderwoods drop because I know we're gonna be so disappointed

[fiery sphinx]

I feel like he intentionally "misunderstands" because he doesn't want us to have anything for free. Except stupid stickers. Which they still monetized.

[fiery perch]

Yeah, like i've suggested a 'quick chat' type thing for a long time now. I'm sure others have too-- I mean, it's been talked about before in accessibility-discussions. But this is not what we meant.

[scarlet hazel]

No one was asking for stickers in the first place really. It feels like we're being treated like children who are unknowingly picky but they just refuse to see the real reason why

[fiery sphinx]

And they fact that they've montized something as simple as "sorry" is disgusting.

[olive carbon]

But. But. Zekis loyalty program. For those of us who,
(checks notes)
Ah yes, right here.
"Don't value our cosmetics at their base prices"
That's enough, right? /s

[pallid ferry]

Do the stickers have their own shortcut? I keep having to get to them from my expressions wheel.

[vagrant lotus]

Literally the quick chat and stickers could be 2 totally different things. And you could have made a decent chunk of them actually earn able and the rest RNG and it would be fine. Even some paid ones is fine but not the f-----g SORRY ONE

[scarlet hazel]

Like in early 2000s games can do this, a modern game should have no issues doing that at all but... Here's s6 proving us wrong

[fiery perch]

I think the expressions wheel is the only way?

[ivory vessel]

the thing is that they know this isn't what we wanted -- you know they know because they still gave us what we wanted: comms wheel with premade messages automatically sent to chat. they purposefully merged stickers into this because they wouldn't be able to sell sentences

[fiery sphinx]

Which was 100% too little too late. I might have paid for it in 2023, but after the last year?! No. Freaking. Way.

[marsh depot]

With the stickers and the ZLC for me it just reeks of implementing features from other games in an attempt to draw players back in (and make a profit while they're at it as well)

[scarlet hazel]

Yeah. They just don't realize why those features work in those games but flop so hard in palia

[vivid oar]

THIS, I was so excited to be able to work towards something and collect them even tho Ill never use them just becuase I love collecting. But its RNG... AGAIN.... I dont mind RNG but I want to EARN things. Wasnt one of the things this was supposed to help with was that feeling of not being able to show of progression outside of you housing plot? RNG drops arent progression or something you earned (I mean you can grind them but its not what I mean :P)

[vagrant lotus]

I still rage at the condescension that oozes off of every single communication from a higher up of this game.

[marsh depot]

Same here. I would've probably gotten it back in March last year even. But now? no thank you, I will continue to purchase Nikki's pass.

[vagrant lotus]

Only cool person that works here I've met is appy

[fiery perch]

Which makes it feel gross to me. Accessibility shouldn't be masked as if it's something childish, silly, cute or goofy. It should be taken seriously and I feel like it's slowly going into 'joke' territory because of the stickers.

LIke, yeah sure, Stickers are cute in a sense. I dont mind that it's anotehr collectable for someone. (Granted, would like that it was something that was an actual earnable but i digress). But implementing it like this??

[marsh depot]

And the previous CM's 😔

[fiery perch]

i will forever miss AmeliaMarz and I hope she is doing well

[scarlet hazel]

I'm keeping appy at an arms length cause I really don't know who to trust at s6 at all right now

[fiery perch]

yes. it was made to believe it was going to be earnables and something for self-expression lol

[fiery sphinx]

Crabs is definitely NOT the person who needs to be communicating with the community. Community is raging over management, so we send in management to talk to them and then are surprised when the conversation makes him a little uncomfy? 🙄

[olive carbon]

Telling that like, one update later and we got the cloud pet. Like they got the loyalty program rolled out and then immediately scaled back apparent effort with this "sprite". Why? Because people are finally getting in game currency at a "better rate"? The alignment leaves much to be desired here. As usual.

[pallid ferry]

Outside the 8 that trigger quick-chat, the rest are just pointless collectibles. And the wheel DEFINTELY needs its own shortcut

[fiery sphinx]

She was a gift and I am sure she saw the writing on the wall and that's why she left ahead of layoffs.

[boreal forge]

i have to buy my family's groceries with coupons, the economy has driven me to be a couponer and only shop sales. and this is for a life necessity. and i consider my myself and family lucky right now because so many others are really suffering financially. the cost of food is actually nuts where i live. so yeah its crazy how this company's response to the request of earnable cosmetics is "never" and they've increased the prices in the shop exponentially.

[vagrant lotus]

that's legit. I'm not sure about anyone either, but from the choices I have to trust, I'll at least put some faith in Appy since issues we brought up to them got fixed this patch

[marsh depot]

I definitely feel like players wouldn't have minded stickers as much if it was not for the way they were introduced and excuted. I very much like the stickers in League but the fact they first introduced stickers as a way of "increasing player customization" and tying it to an accessibility feature when theyre also profiting from it? It's just gross and greedy.

[olive carbon]

But don't make jokes pls it hurts their feewings

[fiery perch]

She really was. She was very kind and it really showed how much she cared about the community. And I also felt for her, because even then, you could see how much miscommunication or no-communication happened sometimes.

[ivory vessel]

they don't care about accessibility, i don't care, i'll say it. the VFX toggle situation was enough proof for people who still refused to see their history of literally pretending not to see. they. don't. care. the ableism is rampant in this project/company and i genuinely feel for anyone who at any point believed their fake promises of a cozy, comfy, inclusive game.

[pallid ferry]

I feel like he may have gotten thrown at discord b/c he can't contribute to Elderwoods development

[vagrant lotus]

I mean... I'm not joking, if that helps their feelings

[fiery sphinx]

But it was a miscommunication. We definitely didn't know this was a thing you really thought existed despite us putting it in the patch notes and then scrubbing it completely with no comments at all.

[olive carbon]

It won't, they will find other reasons to distrust and dismiss their player base either way

[ivory vessel]

and despite all the messages and questions and requests and-
obviously a silly mistake that won't hurt anyone

[fiery sphinx]

I won't make the comment I made previously re: Crabs' employment lest I accidentally get someone else warned again for a comment I made. But I still stand by it.

[vagrant lotus]

legit, love that. I will continue to bring mild chaos until the player base is actually mostly content

[lyric night]

he contributes in other ways
which probably won't end good and I'm already excited for the spicy discussions

[scarlet hazel]

At this point the whales would be the only players. They pay money but that won't be enough to keep the game up unless it's a lot of them

[vapid pendant]

Probably hiding and hating us for having valid points

[fiery sphinx]

What REALLY infuriates me is that if I had not asked him point blank if it never existed, he would probably still be pretending to "misunderstand."

[vagrant lotus]

I said it yesterday, but I'll say it again: why cater to a small group of people with a lot of money when you can make over all decisions that please 90% of your players and make even more money.

[fiery perch]

I'm sure some of them care-- at least, I know vega does-- but I don't know anymore. I keep hoping for more accessibility and improvements. I just want the game to be better, man. I know this game used to be a comfort game for a lot of folks-- myself included-- and I just want it to be that game again for others.

There's some accessibility stuff that, you would at least think, be simple or easier to implement over others that would at least be a step in the right direction, but...

[fiery sphinx]

Because I don't think their monetization guy undrstand simple math.

[ivory vessel]

oh let me be clear, i don't mean to make it a personal matter with X or Y person, but how the company behaves

[fiery perch]

I just always like to point out vega in specific! Just because they have truly been someone who has been super helpful and appreciated

[marsh depot]

They simply don't understand players are more likely to spend smaller amounts multiple times over having to break bank everytime they release something new.

[vagrant lotus]

nah they're reading, they send ducks and Appys been here to answer a tech question yesterday, but I'm sure after the other day they've been told not to engage here or something

[fiery sphinx]

The fact that the only major thing that we've gotten re: accessibility was in the last batch of quests... that a lot of people with accessibility issues can't even get to because of the freaking Temple of the Gales being so god awful.

[ivory vessel]

as we should! it's important to highlight the good, too <3 thank you for that

[void sierra]

$30 for a single outfit is a bit much tbh. like i can get a few meals from the store for that much

[fiery perch]

I really hope they will go and try to fix something with Gales. Vega and I/others have talked about ideas, at least. so I just keep hoping. Vega even had an idea of maybe having the eggs delivered to you or something (can't remember exact wording). Ideas were at least discussed. So I just hope, even if it's small and minimal.

[umbral lynx]

[fiery sphinx]

Some of them are closer to $50 USD. Because their monetization guy might be insane.

[ivory vessel]

he upsets me more than the cloud's buttcrack

[vagrant lotus]

"incapable of saying things that aren't true"

someone should remind him

[vapid pendant]

Good lord what is he on?

[boreal forge]

lollllll what is THAT screenshot

[fiery sphinx]

I know they talked about going back and adding accessibility to those older areas, but the when is going to be the problem. And will it lock everyone out of Elderwood to not be able to finish those temples?

[scarlet hazel]

Where is that message from?

[ivory vessel]

ego trip

[boreal forge]

s6 just gives me the ick ever since they were bought

[fiery sphinx]

I'm pretty sure it was untrue that he didn't know we thought the VFX toggle was real. So

[umbral lynx]

[fiery perch]

Definitely. When is the issue. :/ I agree completely

[ivory vessel]

it was a misunderstanding, UGH

[fiery sphinx]

They were giving me the ick before Daybreak showed up.

[void sierra]

They could probably earn more money if they lowered the prices 🤷‍♀️ not everyone can afford a $30+ outfit

[marsh depot]

I think it's from the time he admitted he cherry picks commments but dont quote me on that

[lyric night]

nothing changed tho it has always been that way

[scarlet hazel]

Oh yeah. That whole mess

[ivory vessel]

bot i'm gonna-

[marsh depot]

always has been

[fiery perch]

too many duplicate characters, not enough ducks

[fiery sphinx]

Crabs doesn't understand maths.

[ivory vessel]

that one was mine teehee

[umbral lynx]

Idk what's going on I just got told post the thing

[vagrant lotus]

If someone doesn't have trust in you, the answer isn't to stop communicating, it's to communicate more. This guy is nuts

[vapid pendant]

Coughs Look what happened to Multiversus Coughs

[fiery sphinx]

"You said something I didn't like and I'm not going to talk to you any more." How old is he?

[void sierra]

Im not good at math but i know if they made it cheaper more people would probably buy it which makes sales go up

[boreal forge]

"i dont like what you're saying and you're mean so i'm not going to talk to you. hmph!"

[ivory vessel]

btw i still stand for what i said here, buddy (this is un unpinged message don't even think about bonking me)

[vapid pendant]

He's acting like a bloody high school mean girl

Oh so I can say bloody here but not in game?! Jesus christ.....

[vagrant lotus]

cause you're right, is this talking about the madrinas plush? lmao

[umbral lynx]

Anyways hope you all having a good day I'm gonna order some sushi and play a game that isn't marketed as decor, farming sim and cozy... But is more cozy and has animal and crops for farming with pew pew like what is life ey
Also if ya all want in on this sushi order you got 5 mins to get what you want

[fiery sphinx]

Probably because how dare you say it in front of the children (cause the game is 10+ and discord is 13+)

[fiery perch]

enjoy once human

[vagrant lotus]

you can also say hate in chat but not the map coordinate H8

[olive carbon]

Let's not forget not much later we got hit with "I still want to have fun and meme/joke with my pals in here" after being told "ouchies memeing our mistakes is not nice"
That one got a reply from me. Or rather, the me that feels more like Mama Fern when it breaks out. Think hulk, but cuter.

[fiery perch]

Just thinking back to that image I sent you not too long ago, that reminded me of you. With the little side-eye

[olive carbon]

I'll take the ancient fish sushi, hold the kilima swamp taste

[vagrant lotus]

this doesn't make any sense. please guys, when my game releases come meme the crap out if it, yall are the best memers

[vapid pendant]

Shouldn't they both be the same then?!

[fiery sphinx]

I can't say the same for all comments here - there's a lot of memeing on mistakes we're making which, while maybe fun for some, are not very constructive and I won't respond to.

My eyes rolled so hard.

[scarlet hazel]

Memes keep games alive. So far palia's memes are just not... Good

[boreal forge]

ta ta friends, off to work. i come in here because i enjoy the resistance of the * uckery that this company is pulling. appreciate y'all. also, * can be replaced with d or f, whatever floats your boat 🦆

[fiery sphinx]

Technically you even have to be 13 to have an actual Palia account. Their ToS is a mess. But they don't control discord.

[vagrant lotus]

how do you build a community without some oopsies? I don't think anyone is mad that S6 keeps messing up, it's that they keep messing up, pretending they didnt, gaslighting everyone, pretending they are infallible, ignoring player feedback and then being confused why they're loosing money.

but how can you say you have a communities if you don't let them meme the oopsies

[vapid pendant]

That still doesn't explain why crap is allowed and yet bloody isn't good lord Palia....

[vapid pendant]

Anything with prawns please

[fiery sphinx]

Cause whoever deals with the overzealous profanity filter is as good as their job as Crabs is at his.

[vapid pendant]

Good lord.... this is why I switched to Nikki

[fiery sphinx]

If housing shows up in Nikki's next update like I think it will, Palia may not even make it to Elderwood.

[scarlet hazel]

I remember on Toontown online you couldn't say call and a bunch of other words, but that was a kids MMO at heart.

Palia has all these more adult refs and such, but their filter is worse then a kids MMO from the early 2000s...

[vapid pendant]

It's rumoured to, furniture assets have been leaked along with the island, house and map, which is pretty good for 7 months and onwards of work from December last I checked. So they're cooking for sure

[vagrant lotus]

yeah you can't say something like "lol I just finished that quest" it turns into you looking like an Austrailian lady (c word) when you say "**** finished that quest"

[fiery sphinx]

That quote about dyeing from their latest update sounded like furniture dyeing to me (where they said it wouldn't be clothing).

[ivory vessel]

honestly i think they'll still push it but we know how quickly their content burns... if people even decide to give it a chance in spite of all the fun we'll be having with nikki, it won't last more than 2 days

[signal kayak]

have they announced yet what the next update banners will be? it's five days away from then next update

[vapid pendant]

Maybe both who knows? All we know is that they actually listen to the player base unlike this!

[vagrant lotus]

I'm willing to stick it out for elderwoods to drop but idk yall, this might be over for us all soon

[vapid pendant]

If it does I'm gonna hope Steam gives me my money back

[fiery sphinx]

Not that I have seen yet.

[vagrant lotus]

Steam can't, it's S6 who has your money and if the company goes under, nobody is getting a refund

[vapid pendant]

*Duck

[ivory vessel]

if you want refunds start requesting them now

[novel zinc]

where's suggestion channel?

[signal kayak]

i think (not sure because i don't have steam) that you have something like 2 hours to request a refund from steam. someone on youtube makes videos of trying to 100% games (all achievements) under that time limit and then request a refund after

[vapid pendant]

Oh I've seen him! Very fun to watch those

[fiery perch]

!feedback there isn't an actual suggestion channel on discord. the only way to 'send' suggestions is thru their site.

[opal cypress]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss issues with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[vagrant lotus]

yeah if you catch it before steams processing time you can get it back, but longer ago purchases you should contact S6 for a refund, idk how that goes but it'll probably take a while and a bit of back and forth knowing the company in general

[novel zinc]

we reall hope zeki open up a store in Bahari. :))

so we can sell bugs in bahari hahahaha

[vagrant lotus]

I'm hoping this is what tamalas shop icon will be for

she has her own store in bahari with the elderwoods drop, fingers crossed!

[ivory vessel]

didn't they make it a while ago that we can sell everything at every store? suppose in this case you could sell to hodari when he's in bahari

[warm python]

Re: companies embracing the memes of their mistakes

People memed so hard about the low-poly grapes that were in Endwalker they screwed up with that we've gotten furniture based on it and an actual stress-squeezy-toy-thing of it given out at one of the Fanfests

Hell, Palia itself did it with Cyl!

[vagrant lotus]

I don't think so, I can still only sell everything to zeki, tish only takes wood and stuff, no fish or whatever and etc. for the rest of the shops

[fiery sphinx]

I think you can sell everything at the actual registers, but NPCs only take their guild related stuff.

[vagrant lotus]

see that's why I don't get the statement. Isn't cyl a joke from the shells ok the beach rendering as cylinders? that's hilarious and an honest mistake. if they just owned up to their s like that, people wouldn't be so angry

[vagrant lotus]

ooh, I ought try that, I never try to use the registers anymore haha

other than mod packs and zekis, I never need anything

[ivory vessel]

[https://palia.com/news/patch-185]
okay, it specifically says kilima, so maybe it doesn't work with hoddy?

[ivory vessel]

ah that might be it... god forbid they say anything clearly
*edit typos

[warm python]

honestly their mistakes have become so bad that like, what are we gonna do, nothing we say is listened to or acted upon so we just complain and meme to stay sane

[vagrant lotus]

yeah that makes sense, if it's just registers. they should add a register in bahari at the least

and also finally hire someone to properly communicate game stuff to us

how come we have to learn there are rugs in the underground on accident? you don't want us to have the stuff you made for us to have?

how come nobody tells us that the patch notes were edited? how come nobody watches out here for bugs on patch day and communicates with the team? honestly whats going on

[warm python]

My response to it taking weeks to hire a CM and it being normal in the tech industry supposedly is "why do you even need to to begin with, why did you get rid of ALL of them"

[fiery sphinx]

Why tell us things when they can gaslight us with snails and ducks?

[fiery sphinx]

Because obviously the great and powerful Crabs could do such an easy job as community management. Obviously.

[vagrant lotus]

as always, the answer is money. and before WC comes to reply with the same statement he made last time about how "actually that doesn't help save money, your idea would actually make more money" then what? why? who? Fix it??

[fiery sphinx]

This literally blows my mind. "The way we're doing it is actually not the best way but we're going to keep doing it this way anyway." WHAT?!

[vagrant lotus]

Yeah I was so flabbergasted at the response because... then why? You know it's not working so change tactics. Take responsibility and fix. it.

[ivory vessel]

and pods!

[fiery sphinx]

There is zero shame in "we tried something and it didn't work" but one should definitely be ashamed of "we tried something and it didn't work and we kept doing it because we wanted to."

[ivory vessel]

because some people would rather d-word than admit they're wrong - not talking about anyone in specific as we don't know on an official level who makes the calls, but that do be it. change scary, me too smart

[pallid ferry]

And Beta SHOULD be the time to say "this isn't working, how can we improve by looking at feedback?"

[ivory vessel]

it's not beta though 😤 /sarcasm

[fiery sphinx]

Instead of throwing all the feedback in the trash or using it as Crabs' toilet paper or whatever happens to it.

[vagrant lotus]

then honestly said people who feel like criticism is too personal for them shouldn't be involved in a project where constructive criticism is 90% of what you get because your project is literally still in beta and you're still learning

[ivory vessel]

ugh but when you're so negative and bent on not believing anything they say, why try */sarcasm
*edited for tone

[fiery sphinx]

Yes, lets not do our literal job because someone made me feel uncomfy.

[fiery perch]

"Change can be scary, especially when it’s perceived as nerfs."
(https://palia.com/news/patch-169)

[young plank]

oh my i remember that day oh the chaos was GREAT

[ivory vessel]

and you know what i'd do it again

[fallow saffron]

[fiery perch]

that's what caused my long hiatus until i came back. it really rubbed me the wrong way.

[warm python]

They don't want to risk having to fire the few people who are left by changing the monetization to potentially (imo, very likely) bring them in more money

so instead they're keeping the car on the road that's been driving off cliff after cliff

[ivory vessel]

like what the duck do you mean 'nerfs', this is a single player game

[fallow saffron]

First thing I see after I open chat

[young plank]

oh dont get me wrong i was kinda on the fence because i too wanted to do the parties but my anxiety is always so high when im cooking with strangers T.T

[ivory vessel]

jhakjfhalks i've been trying to channel your chaotic energy cuz i missed you

[warm python]

Hi ace <3

[fallow saffron]

Hiiii

[fiery perch]

It was just the wording and how it was executed that I didn't like. Not that cake parties were nerfed, tbh.

And also, same. I did end up doing them, but only with a select group. And that was because they were genuinely very nice & reassuring. They even let me sit in for a while (literally sit there and vibe), and then were very kind when I actually started to participate. I miss those days tbh.

[young plank]

i feel chaotic today... maybe i should switch to lurk mode lol

[olive carbon]

Seems like bluujin regenerating again is becoming noticed more and more. Why on earth......these reverting bugs are very concerning.

[fiery perch]

Yep. I honestly just figured it might of been just me a month or two ago, but im happy to know it def isn't just me lol

[vagrant lotus]

noooo bring the chaos with us

[young plank]

so i was right then? i wasnt going insane?

[fallow saffron]

[vagrant lotus]

yes, I witnessed it with my own 4 eyes last night several times and came to chat to complain

[olive carbon]

Like I was saying yesterday there's been several reports of this, yes.

[ivory vessel]

biblically accurate freyja

[fallow saffron]

“My own 4 eyes”

[vagrant lotus]

[fiery perch]

i still will forever be confused why the gold 'economy' in the game matters, when we can't trade, it's not a competitive game, etc. i dont get it or understand. esp if it's turning into jsut RNG Plushie simulator with some home decor

[vagrant lotus]

lmao, it doesn't, that's the funny part

[fiery perch]

not to mention, you cant even buy the food at Maji/LNY with gold anymore and only with tickets. i wish i got more starred food but i couldn't bother grinding hotpot anymore.

[young plank]

legit its a plushie gatcha at this rate

[fallow saffron]

The accuracy!

[vagrant lotus]

and you can't buy the recipies at LNY with tickets anymore? wasn't that a thing? I'm mad about that

[carmine gyro]

Not true! Sometimes it's a gemstone gacha

[olive carbon]

⭐

[fiery perch]

wanted to say btw, ty for the update & mentioning that more people are reporting it!

[fallow saffron]

The more I think about this, the more I realize that some parts of Palia would have fit better as a mobile game or something

The plushies, stickers, even that sad excuse for a cloud pet seem more mobile game-ish to me. Even hotpot too

[young plank]

i was saying to my hubby the other day that its a shame i cant log into palia off of my phone when im out and about. I could do small spurts of content when im stuck in the car waiting LOL

[turbid delta]

How's everyone liking the sticker system? 🤔

[ivory vessel]

definitely

[fallow saffron]

Like, I feel like the game’s animation and whatnot would be totally different on mobile maybe? Like if you went mining and hunting and stuff

[scarlet hazel]

It's probably be less flashy on mobile even

[fallow saffron]

Also (agreeing with you) it’s possible I would still play every now and then if it was mobile

[turbid delta]

LOL I'm going to take it as people don't like it XD I noticed no one using it in game either. Just curious, what about them don't you all like? I mainly play FFXIV so we had translator shortcut phrases to communicate in japanese. This sticker system reminded me of the attempt to do that, but man it's awful lol. I was curious what others thought about it tho

[scarlet hazel]

Ok before more tea is spilled I need to do my morning routine. Just been in bed just watching lol

[young plank]

oh yeah so many things could be changed for it but i feel like at this rate the more consoles added the worse itll get T.T case and point to switch console (i am not talking about the users)

[fallow saffron]

[vagrant lotus]

yeah the phrases could have been seperate from the stickers.

can't afford to be sorry, so guess I'm not sorry

[fiery perch]

I think it's a joke.

A way that they tried to make "quick chat"/"accessibility" but masking it up in a goofy, childish kind of way that makes it out as if it's a joke.

Also I really do not like the fact that they tried to claim it was a way for more earnables, but it isn't/wasn't. Nor is it a way for self-expression.

Some of the art styles are cute, but yeah. No use for me. It's just another RNG collectible nonsense.

That aside, I am glad others are finding enjoyment with them. But i just. yeah.

[olive carbon]

Only the first 8(?) even give you chat short cut phrases :/

[vagrant lotus]

and 2 paid ones, one for literally apologizing and there's no free alternative, not even a "my bad"

[young plank]

dont forget sorry is behind a paywall

[fallow saffron]

Thank you for saying the part about not talking about the users /gen
I’ve seen people blame switch users for just downloading the game and I’m like what the heck did I do

[fiery perch]

Quick chat is good. Quick chat is something that me, and others, have asked for multiple times. But trying to hide it in a "hehe look ti's so cuteee!" kind of way is just laughable.

It's also just half-baked. If they wanted to have a quick chat, then they should of made one, instead of turning it into something they could potentially monetize. (saying potentially, since the ones in the store rn are not quick-chat functioned, but who knows, maybe some in the future will be.)

[pallid ferry]

Sorry should’ve been free, “So Fierce” should’ve been the paid.

[turbid delta]

I couldn't agree more. I was worried maybe I was in the minority here LOL, but I feel the same way. The default stickers should 100% just be common phrases (Hello, Bye, Yes, No, Thank you, On the way, I don't know, Sorry, etc). The collectibles come off mostly passive aggressive and rude to use amongst strangers despite how cute the stickers are.

[pallid ferry]

Since the collectible stickers don’t have a quick chat, I see no reason to even USE them

[turbid delta]

I didn't even notice that 😮

[young plank]

its not your fault that the company isnt making the correct patches so you can enjoy the game on your device.

[vagrant lotus]

they serve no purpose other than to trade and complete yet another rng based collection

[turbid delta]

Oh my gosh they don't LOL

[fiery perch]

"The more than 40 Stickers earned via drops by engaging in various skills, such as Insect Catching, Fishing, etc. will not post to chat, and are intended to be collected."

[fallow saffron]

S6 really added paying for more accessibility

[turbid delta]

It's a real shame too. I was trying to play the game on my steam deck and I thought a quick chat system would be great, but man they really missed the ball on it.

[vagrant lotus]

for why tho? collect for whomst?

[young plank]

welp i have yet to get one LOL and i was on all day LOL

[turbid delta]

Wow I totally missed that... LOL that is... awful

[fallow saffron]

Wait the stickers are rng??? /gen

[fiery perch]

yes. you get them randomly whiel you do skills. and you can get duplicates.

[vagrant lotus]

lmao YEAH I got one hunting yesterday but that's it. I only opened it to get it out of inventory, I guess I can give the collectable ones away to someone who cares about them

[fallow saffron]

[turbid delta]

I don't understand how we can have a more comprehensive quickchat with the emojis in discord than an entirely new sticker system in the game LOL

[fiery perch]

Reminder that they said this was supposed to be more earnables and to express yourself.

""Stickers are a new item type you can collect (and trade!) that allow you to express yourself in your own ways while you’re out and about.""
( https://www.palia.com/news/mini-dev-blog-zlc )

[vagrant lotus]

[olive carbon]

Oh and let's not forget:

• if you get a sticker pack, and it goes to overflow and straight into your home storage (without opening it first), it effectively "dissappears" because, like honey, it lacks a category tag
  

[west marlin]

Oh I thought there were ones attached to skills like you got this specfic sticker for being good at this specfic skill 😩

[vagrant lotus]

oh sweet, that's awesome /s

[fiery perch]

Nope. It's random drops like plushes.

[fiery perch]

You can get it even from opening an oyster or tilling soil.

[signal kayak]

wow, let's fluff the game more and more it seems

[vagrant lotus]

yeah that's what "earnable" usually means

[fallow saffron]

That’s what I thought too!

[lyric night]

they are cute for interacting with nearby players, like catching a rare bug with a random player or getting a plush from it and using the "fired up" emote or "yay", but that's it

useless like in any other game which has them but they can create wholesome interactions imo

[fallow saffron]

Like, I thought you earned the stickers for leveling up in your skills

[vagrant lotus]

Soooo... WC said they would be earnable, that was a lie lmao

[young plank]

This is one of the collectables and i love it LOL ill never use it but haha funny none the less

[pallid ferry]

Unless that user, like me, has stickers turned off. Also, that's why we have ACTUAL emote actions in game

[fiery perch]

This one is def my fav. like again, some of the art styles & art work is cute. but i just have no use for them. there's no point.

[pallid ferry]

They are really cute. I'd use them here in discord.

[turbid delta]

I definitely think they have a lot of potential if done correctly. Most of the stickers, imo, are too rude to be used amongst strangers. They'd be cute for friends. I just think the purpose they gave for them totally missed the mark and I hope they adjust it. I've given lots of feedback but we'll see. The game does need a quick chat feature, and I do think collectible cute stickers is a super fun idea.

[olive carbon]

This just gave me a cursed idea

[young plank]

Yeah cause some people just grunt and jump and its feels like im talking to my toddler in the game at times. Oh you want the tree chopped? grunt and jumps a couple times oh okay i can help you

[vagrant lotus]

I don't get it cause people can only see then if they're literally looking at you and tbh even when I'm in a group, I'm not looking at people, I'm catching bugs n sh--

[fallow saffron]

S6 really gave players potatoes with googly eyes, plushies, and stickers. What kind of pre school project is this

[fiery perch]

oh no

[pallid ferry]

Chop once, point.

[young plank]

you would think LOL

[vagrant lotus]

it's still toddler language, but probably would be better. It's hard to get to the point emote on switch tho

[turbid delta]

I hope they fix them to be more usable. Lots of potential, but I don't see anyone using them in game so far. Maybe they'll pick up use. 🤔

[vagrant lotus]

tbh it's hard to do anything but wave on switch. chat, stickers and other emotes are difficult because of how the controller is designed

[warm python]

god right LOL

[west marlin]

No offense but this is exactly why palia shouldn't keep their cards so close to their chest

Like if they had told us their plans for stickers, instead of telling us not to theorize 😒, we could have given feedback and helped shape it into something that would match expectations instead of being another weirdly vague idea that misses the mark

[fiery perch]

I mean, we were kinda right about what the stickers were. The only difference is we didnt think it'd be quick chat-- and thought the stickers were actually going to be in chat due to what the settings for it said.

[vagrant lotus]

Yeah but they... don't want their ideas stolen? want everything to be a surprise? idek what the reasoning is, but its dumb and it doesn't look like it's gonna change anytime soon

[hidden trail]

Hence the frustration and salty disposition of many of us alpha testers these days. It's been a lot of that.

[young plank]

itll come to chappa bite them in the butt

[west marlin]

Meanwhile farm folks posts 3 times a day showing every little silly idea, constantly asking for feedback and opinions lol

[lyric night]

can't wait for the "very limited premium gifting options" WC mentioned bcs those will be another thing they keep close to their chest and will miss the mark as well

[fiery perch]

And I also agree. Maybe if my concerns and thoughts were taken seriously as well, instead of it sounding like I got shut down, it would of been better too. (Along with others, obviously. I'm still just salty over it lol)

[west marlin]

Random gifting is so cringe

[fiery perch]

FERN. fern please. why. (pretend this was in all caps)

[vagrant lotus]

meanwhile CA is a private person and slow development style, but he still posts often enough about HC that people are foaming at the mouth in love with it and he actually takes feedback and fixed bugs in a timely enough manner

[fiery perch]

I'm honoured/touched!

(thanks Relika for this image)

[hidden trail]

And Moonlight Peaks has WIP Wednesdays in their discord doing similar

[west marlin]

Even reddit hates that cloud

[west marlin]

And reddit is echo chamber of the most toxic positivity

[olive carbon]

Lol and that's truly saying something

[fiery perch]

[vagrant lotus]

I talked about them yesterday, I have to do more research into the stuff behind their funding, but their development track has been pretty spotless and they actually listen to player feedback and I think have hired artists directly from their discord fan pool

[fallow saffron]

Felipe

[fiery perch]

yes

[young plank]

Okay i dont like stickers but i do need this one too LOL its so cute

[fallow saffron]

Does it tell you what “message” it’ll display in chat beforehand?

[fiery perch]

Like a tooltip of what it is? no

[fallow saffron]

This reminds me of Courage the Cowardly Dog

[vagrant lotus]

I dont think any of those have a message, other than the name of the sticker which hovers on it for me when I'm in menu, but no box with a tooltip

[warm python]

Oh Valk posted it already LOL

[fiery perch]

and credited you since it was your meme-creation

[young plank]

Yup but i refuse to grind for stickers LOL i dont care its another thing i need to collect with no real content

[vagrant lotus]

if the stickers were actually earnable like we were told, I would actually probably care about grinding to collect them.

[pallid ferry]

I officially hate fishing in enclosed spaces. WHERES MY BOBBER???

[young plank]

I sent yesterday hunting blue muujin and collecting snails and oysters. Not one popped just the ones from the twitch

[scarlet hazel]

please tell me that person isnt just constantly following you doing that 😭

[fiery perch]

Yeah, if they were actually earnable, maybe i'd look into it. but even then i dont know.

[pallid ferry]

No it's pure coincidence. I even had no idea his nameplate would be in the way, b/c we're standign apart.

[fiery perch]

It honestly confused me for a moment because i was like "wait, i thought Moose's IGN was different? and where's the antlers?"

[scarlet hazel]

i dont like fishing but id never fish in the underground cause its just a cluster of people nd with how there isnt any customization for the bobbers except for the ones other ppl can use....

[raven orbit]

Wait they aren't earnable?

[fiery perch]

No. They just randomly drop when youre doing skills.

[raven orbit]

🤦‍♂️

[scarlet hazel]

yeah. more things ppl with disabilities are locked out of! yay! 🎉

[pallid ferry]

Less "earnable" than plushies, bc theres no clear thing you can do to get them.

[fiery perch]

you can apparently have it even just randomly drop from opening an oyster or something

[raven orbit]

they really said increase the playtime metrics

[scarlet hazel]

oh great. so fights over oysters are gonna happen too alongside the butterflies

[fiery perch]

I was moreso just trying to make an example that it can be from anything that is towards skills

[fallow saffron]

Oyster parties are gonna start happening
(If they weren’t already)

[vagrant lotus]

yeah I can't even use them because with how my hands are it's too difficult to get to the stickers.

why not just have a quick chat wheel open up in the chat menu?

[fiery perch]

Literally what me and others kept asking for!! have quick chat for the chat menu!! if you wanted to implement that feature, then ... then do it 😭 don't half bake it and try to make it "hehe look super cute and silly and goofy"

[fiery sphinx]

The thing is... only the default 8 stickers are even related to quick chat. These did not need to be linked at all.

[raven orbit]

If they wanted to have them be tied to a skill, have them tied to farming only - it's one of the skills that is most accessible for folks, and one that a lot of players already do anyways

[vagrant lotus]

like literally: open chat, click quick chat button, select chat, it automatically sends.

stickers seperate, display able on a notebook/profile or something

[fiery perch]

theyre linked to everything. like it's all rng

[fiery sphinx]

Stickers would have been good for a certain feature we had in alpha that no longer exists.

[lyric night]

everything they do is always half baked, instead of just putting more time into it (reminded me of the WC quote again)

[fiery perch]

I mean... youre not wrong... (and i somehow always forget about that quote somehow )

[polar elbow]

#💬│palia-discussions message
^ my old idea for achievement-based stickers and how to make them good, linked to the original post but I'll copypasta the text here for convenience too:

1. rework achievements into a sticker book that can be shown to others outside your plot
2. completing an achievement awards a sticker design, which could be applied to multiple systems ingame, as a few examples/concepts:
   -apply to outfits in the form of sew-on patches (give jel some purpose outside of prem shop please)
   -ability to apply unlocked sticker designs to walls/banners as decals
   -create a custom nameplate using multiple unlocked stickers/achieves

[young plank]

See and s6 would do this

[fallow saffron]

Was it the one that I just shared?

[raven orbit]

can they iterate a vfx toggle

[scarlet hazel]

what is this word salad? /genq

[warm python]

except they release the half baked/bad version, potentially try to monetize it, then forget about it

[vagrant lotus]

rather release an "okay version" than wait til perfect? nobody is asking for perfect, just better than subpar, holy cow

[lyric night]

yup

[vagrant lotus]

the cake was a lie

[raven orbit]

it seems to always be

[fallow saffron]

Seems like 🚾 🦀 is saying that he’d rather release something in game that is “okay” and then work to improve it later on

Are the improvements in the room with us

[scarlet hazel]

but thats not what you do in game development

[west marlin]

Oh man the mvp dev plan is not good for games

[young plank]

[vagrant lotus]

I was about to say this lmaoooo

[scarlet hazel]

like if there have been improvements i havent seen then yet tbh, even for things in game rn. the water/whatever texture that's missing from the statue garden where you find a pebble is still gone

[olive carbon]

Made with the finest lettuce

[ivory vessel]

and you're supposed to skip on food to buy an ugly pet cloud

[fallow saffron]

I’m going to think of this whenever someone says “word salad” now

Has 🚾 🦀 been in here since the last update?

[vagrant lotus]

legit when the choice is between $20 on groceries and $20 for a fart cloud, you know something gone wrong

[fiery perch]

I had similar thoughts with this too! Showing collections and stuff, and would help showcasing which plushies you have or need to others in-game

[ivory vessel]

fern LMAO

[fallow saffron]

Fern that :relieved: reaction

[young plank]

i cant justify palia purchases anymore. I am not spending 17 dollars for the fart that ecsaped me

[vagrant lotus]

better out than in, I always say

[glacial knot]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

gif perms lost ig, that's weird

[vagrant lotus]

yeah nobody can send them unless they're on your device and you send it directly, gif keyboards are blocked here

[glacial knot]

ahhh okay gotcha, thanks guys

[fallow saffron]

I wonder how many [S6] devs are lurking right now

[vagrant lotus]

yes

[young plank]

thats how i feel towards that cloud LOL

[scarlet hazel]

ik its such a meme but the song is a bop still

[vagrant lotus]

I don't wanna start something in general but I thought this game didn't do fomo? everytime I learn about a plush, it's from a login reward that obviously you can't get anymore and you can only trade. I wouldn't consider the ability to trade for a plush, not missing out on the plush.

[fallow saffron]

Welp this is stuck in my head now

[fiery perch]

sadly looks at the FOMO froggy bucket that i dont have.

[young plank]

oh that bucket was fomo?

[fiery perch]

yes. :/

[fallow saffron]

The fomo froggy outfit I didn’t get for free but is now in the shop

[west marlin]

No fomo except for login rewards and twitch drops. 😂

[thorn shadow]

In what ways do you get the stickers?

[west marlin]

Just vibing

[fiery perch]

I didn't rush to get the bucket (didnt even know about the outfit) because, well, I was promised & lead to believe that there'd be no FOMO. So I was like "cool i can get that whenever." ... yeah. i learned fast.

[vagrant lotus]

someone said it was a switch release only and I'm over here like..... so literally an item that only people on the switch would be able to get for a limited time. That's exactly what causes FOMO.

[fiery perch]

anything that is skill-related. it just drops randomly. but be careful with inventory cuz if it overflows into storage, you wont be able to see the stickerpack or access it.

[thorn shadow]

thanks

[fiery perch]

The outfit was the switch release. The bucket was login reward. but yeah it annoyed me

[fallow saffron]

The sticker idea sucks in my opinion. Or at least how S6 did it. But whyyyy does it go into inventory????

[vagrant lotus]

madness.

"no fomo, earnable stickers, etc." all lies and word salad

considering why I even still want to play this game tbh

[umbral lynx]

Come collect lil rain guys to water my crops instead

[signal kayak]

reasons i stopped playing and just hang out here to watch the world burn

[young plank]

oh god someone bought the pink cloud.... pfft

[glacial knot]

some people unironically find it cute

[young plank]

why does ashura only get the fancy axes on the wall? or am i missing a recipe?

[scarlet hazel]

my friend finds it cute but they get a pass

[normal saddle]

Their taste is on thin ice tho-

[west marlin]

Put the kitty ears on sale and I'll buy them

[void sierra]

I am some people 😅

[glacial drift]

did the white eyebrows suddenly get WAY lighter?

[sturdy isle]

hey does the new year maji market repeat or did i miss my chance to get a new year wish tree?

ah drat well tnx for info guess i hafta wait til next year then

[ivory vessel]

ive seen some reports of eyebrow colors looking lighter than hair despite being the "same" shade, yeah

[grizzled mist]

They look like this and it's horrific!

[fallow saffron]

What did I come back to

[S6] nerfing eyebrows now?

[nimble gulch]

I can't wait for someone to finally figure out the drop rates of the rtb plush only for it to be like every other bug as it seems to be going

Like sernuks have it 1/1000 for reg and elder vs. the 1/250 for glambis (iirc)

[fiery sphinx]

As far as I know, it's 1/25

[nimble gulch]

From some of the numbers I've seen people post, that's hard to believe

[fiery sphinx]

It's 1/500 for regular and 1/50 for glambi.

[nimble gulch]

Crazy but that makes sense

[fiery perch]

sadly it's just how it is with RNG/dice rolls sometimes :/

[fiery sphinx]

People have reported getting RTB in 3 catches so 🤷‍♀️ I'm not about to go to Bahari and try to battle it out for one.

[tranquil musk]

My dice rolled down a mine shaft it is gone forever.... like the RTB

[hushed estuary]

Hi some french here ?

If yes

Je voulais savoir ce que donne la création d'une communauté ?

[olive carbon]

[Pingless reply- answered in another channel]

[median sable]

pavers are now one size .. any that ive spent time making a different size is now altered to the one size...

[lyric night]

known bug, when its fixed everything will be back to normal, no worries

[scarlet hazel]

I wonder how pavers got broken again. You'd think a long time fix would be implemented for various bugs

[neat compass]

It’s very concerning how we seem to have so many recurring bugs

[west marlin]

I suspect they have major build consistency issues

It would explain why we constantly reoccurring bugs or things like the Chappa chase fix getting rolled back

[scarlet hazel]

What do they use again? Rust or whatever it's called?

[steady fox]

Iirc the paver thing is an art issue

[neat compass]

I have a very basic understanding of coding and I’ve definitely never created a game, but I don’t understand how that’s an issue for a developer at this level. Why is it hard for them to save their work? 😂 I’m sure that’s an overly simple way of looking at things, but still lol

[brisk spruce]

Rust is just one of the languages they use, they use multiple (and that's a normal thing to do)

[steady fox]

Every time they have an issue with this I think about the time I was working on worldbuilding with some of my friends from RIOT and even they (seasoned developers) managed to break something completely irrelevant just by adding one thing to the world. Anyone who used said irrelevant item got stuck in a red screen of death and their player data wiped.
Things happen

[fallow saffron]

I agree! I saw this #💬│palia-discussions message and was like.. how
And this is just a few

[steady fox]

Not excusing it, but understanding it.

[neat compass]

Weird bugs will always be a given, but it’s the recurring ones I’m specifically wondering about. The chapaa chase example Imetrius mentioned was extra concerning to me. It doesn’t feel like they added something that triggered the bug again. Rather, it seems like they fixed the issue a year ago, then when the market returned they used old code in which the issue was not fixed. It’s weird

[steady fox]

It wasn't the market that broke it, it was the newest update

But yes, recurring issues are a problem
Like I said, not excusing it, but understanding that game coding is weird as hell

[neat compass]

No I’m talking about chapaa chase specifically. The chapaa spawns were fixed back when the market only came around twice a year. Then when we started getting the market every few weeks, the chapaa spawns went back to their broken state

[steady fox]

Oh you're referring to the chapaa chase for the market.
That stupid minigame has always been jank 😭

[scarlet hazel]

I couldn't care for the chase mini game tbh. It's just too much of a cluster

[steady fox]

I gave up on it for this one

[fallow saffron]

[neat compass]

I mean yeah a lot of this game has always been jank 😂 but how many aspects of the game am I supposed to just write off and ignore until there’s no game left for me to play?

[scarlet hazel]

I stopped bothering with the markets once they introduced the tickets, and then completely destroyed how many you get in a single night

[fallow saffron]

The “it’s in beta” only goes so far

[scarlet hazel]

The coding is one thing, but the nerfs are entirely another

[fallow saffron]

Also beta means that S6 should be responding to feedback from players. And yet

[steady fox]

That's entirely up to you, you're the one playing it, ya know?
I understand frustration, but we are only few.. nobody would blame you if you ditched because of all of the issues. You'd be one of hundreds, if not thousands, that have

[neat compass]

Yeah I was genuinely looking forward to lny returning but I probably only visited the market twice this year :/

[scarlet hazel]

Yeah. They need to have everything cost good again. It would be a good money sink since the cap is raised now

[steady fox]

I still don't understand why they've been so slack on this 😭 For the size of the game their feedback routes are majorly slacking

[scarlet hazel]

Im just waiting to see what elderwoods brings and if it's just a complete reskin of bahari then I'm gone

[olive carbon]

Thanks for linking this, missed it somehow and want this for my notes

[fallow saffron]

I’ve seen a lot of players say this too! Their game is basically all up to how players feel about elderwoods

[neat compass]

It’s just disheartening to consistently see so many bugs return after being fixed, that’s all. Especially when the “content” being added is just a bunch of fluff. Yeah, coding is wild and it’s easy to break stuff, but when they’re barely adding anything it’s hard for me to understand how they’re re-breaking things so often

[fallow saffron]

And I have seen some amazing feedback and ideas from people in this discord too

[scarlet hazel]

They could be adding mini events to keep ppl entertained or working on friendships but no. Just plushies and more of them and now childish stickers that they're monitizing as well

[steady fox]

Their community response has always been lacking but during that big ole' layoff it really plummeted and has yet to recover at all

S6 said character development hard, have a bug plushie

[scarlet hazel]

And said bug plush is from a super rare bug that is causing even more fights to break out in bahari

[sinful birch]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I'm tired of plushies and have been for a while. The game has become a giant claw machine itself in a way.

[west marlin]

It can be extremely difficult

The best way to imagine it is like the game code is a tree, and every new feature or change is a branch
Different developers are working on different branches and depending on when they code branched out from the main trunk they may be working with a version of the game that's missing other devs branches or branches that grow after.

That's why build management is so important to software development and when working with big teams that are all doing different things. There has to be a consistent way to branch and then to merge those branches back to the main code without losing anything along the way.

Its a fundamental challenge many software studios struggle with in their early years

[steady fox]

I'm not even going to lie I was referring to the ladybug I've already forgotten about RTB plush. It doesn't exist

[red comet]

Not Palia related but Tales of the Shire was delayed to July 29th 😭

I can never have anything nice

[scarlet hazel]

It's like an arcade game that's breaking every time but it keeps getting half repaired, because it still makes a profit so it should stay around

[fallow saffron]

I agree. Plushies, potato pods (potatoes with googly eyes) and stickers - like we are in kindergarten

[steady fox]

Half of the people leaving are doing so for broken content and the other half for overpriced flashy outfits
Imagine the things that could be fixed with a community manager and lowering the outrageous pricing

[scarlet hazel]

And some ppl are eating it up. Like I understand that I can be childish as an adult if I wanna. But there is a limit to that, and I do not wanna post about it in a public discord of all places

[sinful birch]

Yep. Show-n-tell. Or show-n-trade.

[steady fox]

You know how many people would volunteer to help this game?
Open a baby mod role. Get some feedback rolling for real.

If you can't afford it, you don't really have to. Integrate the community and get some help? A dream.

[fallow saffron]

They had that! They are called Shepps

[olive carbon]

I get called minimod enough tyvm

[steady fox]

Where did they GO I forgot about Shepps why

[scarlet hazel]

I hardly see shepps anymore at all. And I know a lot have left at this point

[west marlin]

If you read the glass door reviews you'll know why that will neve happen

[fallow saffron]

@cinder temple I am summoning you for Shepp purposes

[steady fox]

Trust, I'm not expecting it to happen. Like I said, a dream

[fallow saffron]

I have read them

[fallow saffron]

I have screenshots from the Glassdoor reviews but I don’t know if I can/should share them here

[neat compass]

This all makes perfect sense, I guess I’m just trying to say that all game developers have to face these same challenges and S6 seems to struggle more than most.

[scarlet hazel]

Wait is it orange? I thought it was red 😭

[steady fox]

I'm just saying, should they open those channels to actually include the community they're trying so hard to dig into the pockets of, and considered the fact that their shop prices are based on outdated single stream information, a lot of their problems would be solved. We'd be looking at one aspect of problems and not all of them

[sinful birch]

It looks like safety / traffic cone orange to me, especially at night. Would probably glow under black light too

[west marlin]

Yes it' would be troubling if at this stage of their lifecycle they are still having build issues

[olive carbon]

Oh we sure do a lot of shoulding ourselves in here

[scarlet hazel]

It does glow at night for some reason. Idk what they did with the code

[steady fox]

I know, professional lurker. But one can dream.

[neat compass]

It’s really sad because I have to imagine someone at S6 still wants this game to succeed…right? Do the people in charge genuinely think they’re doing everything right, or do they just not care at all? Must be nice to have lots of money and no fear of losing your job I guess 😅

[steady fox]

Totally unrelated and I know we're hating on plushies but why isn't there a crab one

[neat compass]

To be clear, I’m definitely referring to the people at the very top, not individual devs

[scarlet hazel]

I really wanna know what those at the top are thinking. Ik one of the CEOs left earlier this year or late last year before new years

[fallow saffron]

A few Glassdoor reviews mentioned that the S6 management doesn’t listen to feedback from employees or players

[steady fox]

They're thinking what other food can we make into outfits

[scarlet hazel]

I wonder why the CEO isn't doing a thing about the management tbh. I'm genuinely super curious

[fallow saffron]

Abandoned ship

[neat compass]

Yes I think you showed me this! And that’s what I really don’t understand. Are they delusional or what? Why work in game development if you hate making good games

[scarlet hazel]

So bad it's good is almost impossible in games

[neat compass]

I know everyone always says the people at the top don't care as long as they get their paycheck or whatever, but if the game dies where is the paycheck

[west marlin]

I think everyone at S6 wants the game to succeed, I think they just really struggle with listening to feedback and making big scary changes to achieve that success

[neat compass]

To be fair it is difficult to listen to feedback when you refuse to employ someone who specializes in interacting with the community and acting as a liaison between players and devs

How is it that the two devs I've seen chatting here recently are both on the premium shop/money stuff team? We've got at least 2 people working on that stuff but S6 decided they didn't need a CM

[fiery sphinx]

They didn't listen to feedback when they had 4 CMs.

[neat compass]

Lol fair enough

[fallow saffron]

Yeah kinda odd that the only devs who chat here (that I’ve seen) work on money and cosmetics

Oh Vega (?) has chatted here before but I am not sure what they work on

[scarlet hazel]

I dunno either. Wizard crab has talked in here a few times but.

We all know how that ends up going

[fiery sphinx]

Vega is a narrative designer. #💬│palia-discussions message

[scarlet hazel]

He must be super busy rn or smth. Usually he pops in when the premium store is mentioned

[fallow saffron]

I JUST found it too
thank you for sharing <3

[marsh depot]

Think he's been taking a step back since what transpired last week. But not to keep beating this particular dead hor- I mean crab.

[neat compass]

Idk this sort of thing just nags at me. I know there's no good answer but I hate when I can't follow the logic behind garbage decisions. If the answer is corporate greed, I really don't get it because if the game dies, there's no money to be had.

[scarlet hazel]

Most likely yeah

[fallow saffron]

[marsh depot]

Sadly most companies are more focused on short term gains over long term success. Which definitely seems to be the case of Palia now.

[fallow saffron]

To me it looks like they are getting as much money as they can from players until the game goes poof

Imagine buying a cosmetic right before the game shuts down for good

[signal kayak]

just want a game where the devs regularly talk about what's going on in the development of new things, show sneak peeks at future projects that they want to incorporate, acknowledge that some things that they have put into the game haven't worked well and will try to make it better in the future, give items through the in game mail when the game doesn't give a stellar performance and then come out and say that we're working on dyeing clothing but it's not ready yet and we're going to give a sneak peek at what we are thinking about in a new mini event to get player's reactions so when we fully release it at a later time, it will work as intended.... oh wait....

[neat compass]

That's kinda where my head is at now. Trying to bring in as many Zeki subs as possible to pay off any remaining debts and run off with what they can

[fallow saffron]

They’re trying to pay Daybreak back

Also, what was gonna happen to Palia if Daybreak didn’t bail S6 out when they did????

[signal kayak]

we wouldn't be here

[fallow saffron]

They kept their shop open and everything while waiting to be bailed out too

Was somebody typing up a letter to the players like “yooo it’s been real but we gotta dip”

Is it too late to ask for a refund on that outfit I bought a year ago