🌱│gardening

[sweet kraken]

Only thing it lacks is harvest boost

[mint sandal]

You lose out on xp gain by not upgrading your focus boost though, multiplier get bigger the more you upgrade it, which means you get more xp for the same exact task

[sweet kraken]

Ohhhh okok

Yea thats what I was trying to ask cus i didnt really understand

Like i thought the second time I asked you were saying that its the same xp boost but I just dont have to eat as often if its already full

Mmm so maybe just one more plot upgrade for garden space for the other 4 tiles

Its also probably why mining is taking me eons to level

[mint sandal]

No, I explained that the focus boost is a multiplier for the xp gain and that the max focus lets you do more before the focus depletes

[sweet kraken]

Yea but from this i didnt get that it also increases the xp boost with an upgrade

But if youre saying I can do more before it deletes thats not really an issue for me

Cus I just... eat before its empty

[mint sandal]

I been explaining 2 things at once to you this whole time: focus bonus is an xp multiplier that gets higher the more you upgrade; max focus ups the max amount of focus you bar can hold, meaning you can do more before it depletes, which means you don't have to eat and cook as much

[sweet kraken]

Yea I just didnt get that the first time around I thought it was just 1 upgrade

I havent even made it over to the dragon statue since doing the tutorial around a year ago

I thought you were saying
Upgrade focus bar = bigger bar ---> focus gives xp bonus

Not upgrade focus bar = more bar AND SEPARATE upgrade focus bonus = more xp i just thought you were saying in the long run the bigger bar was more efficient

Just an hour and a half more and I can clock out and actually do something instead of just being stuck THINKING about playing

[gusty sparrow]

we really out here min maxing our garden plots in a non-competitive game. lol I love this game and community.

[sweet kraken]

I just wanna lazy max tbh

[clear kindle]

why i have an afk apples and beans layout

[sweet kraken]

I dont have enough money nor am I high enough level for either of those 🙏

[floral talon]

We can make a layout to each player no matter where ur at in the game atm
Now if only they finished sciencibg ranching i could make personalised strat guides there to

[sweet kraken]

Unless you think I shouldnt?

This is what I think I'll swap to tonight

[quick mist]

I have not done gardening in a while, but with booster fertilizer, I swore we got more than this per picking? Not complaining. Confused. Maybe just not remembering.

[supple stone]

If it has Harvest Boost buff, you should get 9 Blueberries per harvest.
However, harvest boost is only a guaranteed 50% bonus crops if the buff is present EVERY in-game day of growth.

[supple stone]

Considering almost all starred foods don't have a focus value which is a multiple of 10, it's far less of an issue now imo.
Ramen is still excellent for feeding new Trufflets regardless of quality and Goobi when starred, and it's a fairly cost-effective food in general, so while it's not the absolute optimal for exp when not overfeeding an animal, it's still very good when you are overfeeding

[stone locust]

Best food to make worms, and glow worms?

[floral talon]

excess meats and mushrooms and raching stuff
grilled fish to(grill ur excess fishes not ur maws or something)

[remote needle]

I think I forgot, but do we get any sort of advantage at gardening level 28 please?

[stone locust]

Thank you!

[floral talon]

2%point more chance at star crops per level
at 38 unstarred seeds are always starred produce
so yeay u get a perk till lv38 but in practice 25 as almost all ur seeds are gonna be home made from ur starred crops

i only get unstarred seeds from zeki coins so i use th ose now when avialble cuz the starred ones are mroe expensive

[austere bane]

How I wish we couple place the pumpkins we grow. These pumpkins for Halloween are so expensive 😢

[floral talon]

?_? we can grow em

[austere bane]

We can grow pumpkins we just use them as decor sadly

[floral talon]

oh u mean cuz they are so bad to grow yeay its so sad i mean growing large orange orb thingys on the soils whats not to love

[late pendant]

Does this look bad with the yellow flowers?

[remote needle]

I think she meant that she wish she could use the pumpkins she grows in her garden for decor like the halloween pumpkins in the spooky shop.

[remote needle]

I thought it was level 25 for all starred seed crops.

[tender salmon]

No but have you considered datura? They glow like the tree does. You might like that effect better.

[late pendant]

I do have those! I didn't think to put them there though lol. I'll try it and see if I like it

[floral talon]

yes with STARRED SEEDS 25
UNSTARRED SEEDS 38

[floral talon]

yeay that would be fun if u could grow em for decor that owuld give pumpkin layouts more use to

[pine sun]

Anyone doing the jamboree thing?

[quick mist]

So layering with wheat and this booster only gives me the assurance it's a stronger outcome, RNG wise.

[floral talon]

Made a post awhile back about best for getting tons of jarrables

[supple stone]

Honestly, just having 2 wheat/rice/corn or 2 tiles of beans/apples (or a mix of 2 of these crops) is assurance enough imo.
As long as they are in the soil, they will give the buff to the adjacent crops. Even if not watered/weeded or if they're fully grown and not harvested.

If you have 2 tiles of harvest boost crops adjacent to the blueberries and then put harvest boost fertiliser on it, the fertiliser just won't get used

[fluid river]

Wow. I tought my soil was bugged cus the fert never run out but it just dont get used right?

[supple stone]

Yup. Same for all types of fertiliser. If the crop gets the same buff from adjacent crops, the fertiliser is not used and won't even show up when you press the 'inspect' button to see the buffs

[wooden ferry]

or the blue glowing flowers from the spooky store outside zekis

[late pendant]

Spooky store?

[wooden ferry]

on the deck outside zekis, to the left, there is a cash register where u can buy seasonal/decor items like pumpkins and cobwebs etc atm - the flowers are at the bottom of the list

[onyx forge]

anyone know where to get apple seeds at?

[supple stone]

You get given one when reaching Gardening level 10
You can get 2 through level 3 friendship quests
If you're lucky you can get them through Zeki's Lucky Coins too

[split otter]

Why can`t we buy more soil? I want garden on my other plots too 🙁

[shrewd karma]

Also, once you get one as a reward, you can request more from the community.

[late pendant]

Ty! Looks like I can't get them because I didn't finish the spirit fest outro quest yet. 😅

[wooden ferry]

ah ok. good luck!

[stray ginkgo]

Do we have an updated total for the contest? Last update was the 23rd

Like is there a new update online somewhere or somewhere we can find in-game

[quick mist]

I think the JAMboree is the only thing going on. The barnyard critter was voted on.

[supple stone]

There is not. When there's another update, it will be on the discord again

[warm wraith]

I was just looking for that same information... bummed to see we can only have 9 plots for soil.... with all this area, it would be nice to be able to have as big of a garden as we want.

[stray ginkgo]

I would LOVE to have even another 3 sets of soil. I want to build my home garden layout haha

[tender salmon]

Let us know what you went with. 🙂

[wooden ferry]

It wasn’t me doing the build. This was just a suggestion I made to @late pendant

[warm wraith]

Absolutely! Definitely wish we could have more. I just unlocked Apple trees and they take up so much space!

[floral talon]

adn even worse having 9 total makes making layouts for 2x2s a total pain

[jade monolith]

how does the gardening work when you have multiple plots? do you gotta remove the soils from one plot to put on another?

or do you gotta like
only use it on one plot?

[clear kindle]

you can place the soils on any plot, however you want. just need to make sure that they are untilled and empty before you can pick them up to move them to another plot

[jade monolith]

i think i should have phrased it better
i was asking, if youve made a cute garden, and decide to go onto a new plot to decorate, and get to the garden, do you have to remove the soil from the first plot, to be able to put soil on the second plot?

[covert heron]

I believe the limitation is that each player only gets 9 garden soil tiles. So you could place one on each of your plots, but you can't get more for your new plots.

[jade monolith]

ok

thank you

[covert heron]

You're welcome.

[haughty grotto]

Hello , i want to ask , as i am pretty advanced on all skills but gardening , and have saved up a handsome amount of gold , how can i power lvl gardening and boost it as much as possible ( i dont care about profit i want max lvling speed )

[clear kindle]

fastest way would be to plant crops that grow fast, as you only get exp when you harvest them. so, bok choy, carrot, and rice (which take 3 growth tics) bok choy is actually the best gold crop (seed) of the crops, though it does require babysitting (watering and weeding) can mix in the rice to give the bok choy harvest boost if you wanted to. but ultimately, all crops give the same amount of exp/per tile space (4) so you could plant anything

[haughty grotto]

i dont mind using fertilizers + i unlocked all the plots (had alot of gold from fishing and hunting )

[true spruce]

is bok choy really more profitable than apple jam? a bin full of jam went for over 100k and a bin full of bok choy seeds went for just over 15... I feel like even given the time difference it's way more profitable to go with apples but I don't know how to actually run the numbers

[shrewd gust]

Question for gardening, online we have those 9x9 grid that can help us retain water and etc
The question is… do the 9x9 have to stick together or they can be separated and they still remain the same affect?

Additional note: the 2x2/3x3 are within the plot and are not shared with other plot

[short hound]

Can someone send me the best layout 100% AFK for rice please

I need max rice amounts if possible

Ohhh and blueberries too

I just need a ton of rice that’s all

[clear kindle]

it becomes more profitable when you compare how long the crops take to grow. bok choy takes only 3 growth tics (hours) to become harvestable, compared to the apples that take 12. so, if you were able to play for 12 hours straight, harvest and replant the crops as they become available, you could get 4 harvest of bok choy compared to the single that you can get from apples in the same time frame.

[short hound]

@clear kindle I know u got the best layouts

[shrewd gust]

I heard it’s better to process bok choy to seed and then sell em

[clear kindle]

correct

[clear kindle]

i'm a simple apple/bean farmer. i found a layout that i love and haven't changed it since. so i haven't really paid much attention to the other crops

[clear kindle]

they need to be snapped together to give buffs

[shrewd gust]

Meanwhile for me it’s jack of all trades

[shrewd gust]

Hmmm it doesn’t seem I have to? I examined my plot and every dirt so far I see have water retain and weed protection

This is the one I’m following, but maybe for now I don’t see the result

[haughty grotto]

I planted a wrong plant how can i remove kt

[shrewd gust]

Use your hoe, right click on the plant to damage it

Until you break it

[short hound]

Does anyone have a good rice layout 100% afk and most harvest boost ?

Also want to add that I want to farm crops quick

[wind totem]

not sure if this is a better channel to ask in, but i havent been able to water these three crops for some reason?? is this a glitch?

[haughty grotto]

You probably ran out of water

[wind totem]

no like it will not water, i sit there for 5 minutes constantly watering, my waterbucket is full, i leave and rejoin, nothing is working

[shrewd gust]

Close and open game? Not sure that helps

[vital cipher]

Hey guys! Is it worth it to only plant star quality seeds? Or does that not matter?
Edit: I know about the level 25 and level 38 situation.. I'm just wondering if it is worth it to ONLY have starred crops? Can I also use starred crops in non starred recipes for cooking etc..? I'm quiet new, sorry if the question is a bit "dumb".

[supple stone]

You can use starred ingredients in cooking only when you choose 'use starred ingredients' which is frustratingly not the default
You can however always use unstarred ingredients in starred recipes if no starred versions of that ingredient is present (including in the lockbox)

Sometimes it can be useful to have some unstarred crops in case you accidentally don't select use starred ingredients, or if you want to be able to fill requests.
And not a dumb question btw.

From a profit perspective, 100% worth it to only use starred seeds though

[vital cipher]

Thats what I meant sorry I mixed the two recipes up

Alright thank you! That answeres my question. <3

[shrewd gust]

Welp now I understand

[jade monolith]

sometimes the frame to water is bugged
i usually had to try and water a spot around it, or straight up until it and reput the crops for it to work.
another way is that i watered the grass beside it, but im assuming those things didnt for you since leaving and rejoining hasnt worked
when i have a tree next to it(mine is fully grown completely) the hitbox blocks the water from getting to the crops.
id say you will unfortunately have to until it if you cant find any solution to it

[mint sandal]

Do you want just the most rice possible while being 100% water retain/weedblock or you have also more crops that you want included? If it's the former, then you'll want the bullseye layout and use mostly rice intead of all 3 types of grains, and switch the water and weed crops to the fastest growing ones since you want this to be as quick as possible

[short hound]

I want harvest boost as well

[mint sandal]

Bullseye hb is at 100% with only 4 ferts

[short hound]

Send link

[mint sandal]

I don't have it, you can just search "bullseye" in the channel and look at the pictures to find it quicker

[supple stone]

#🌱│gardening message and the post a couple below are variations of the Bullseye layout with preserves in mind considering it is the Jam-Boree.
For general use, the linked one with rice where the corn is and corn/wheat where the rice is. I also prefer onions to carrots due to having more cooking uses

[granite sphinx]

Question about fertilizers. When I put it down, I see the petals on the plots, after a day or two of growth, some of the petals disappear. Do I need to reapply fertilizer to those spots? Does applying one type of fertilizer more than once have any benefit?

[floral talon]

it consumes one per growthtick per tilesize of the plant its on unles the plant its on gets the buff from nearby plants theres some other exception but those arent relevent
applying more then once is actually hte way to go just apply for a cabbage like 6 times for harvest boost 5 for water cuz u dont care if its watered after the 6th tick and u watered it once urself and dont care if at last tick iit gets weeds either with weedblock some minor exceptions exist

[rigid flax]

I was moving my stuff around… what the difference between the number flowed and sunny icon.

[night compass]

grow stages of the flower/bushes. the 'sunny' icon is or full grown bushes/flowers and the numbers is the stage they are in. So if there is a number their not fully grown and need more water.

[rigid flax]

Bbl low man by stage are there

[fluid river]

What does the weed do? Slow down growth, decrease quality or is it just harmless?

[clear kindle]

stop crops from growing

[fluid river]

Daum

[neon turret]

hey guys haven't been able to get blue berry's do i get them when harvesting the plant or what?

[little turret]

Yes

So this jamboree are we like turning them in somewhere or keeping them in our inventory or

[floral talon]

If u jarred anything it counts

[vale shadow]

so my ex counts and is finally worth something?

I'll see myself out ty

[floral talon]

Idk what jarring ur ex means but ivfeel like i dont want to know xd

[vale shadow]

the word has a double meaning 😅

[floral talon]

Mh ic gues he did have a use afterall

[supple stone]

Well I'm glad you meant that meaning and not the other!

[floral talon]

Thats what i thought

[vale shadow]

why not both

[supple stone]

But hey, if they were jarred since the Jam-boree started, maybe it'd count, who knows!

I mean, it IS Spooky season

[floral talon]

Did u finish ur ranching science yet?

[floral talon]

Not the type of jarring i was thinking about lmao

[supple stone]

For now, mostly done
Still running Goobi tests and a few other things
My Compendium is now pinned in the Ranching channel though

[floral talon]

Ok so once i got time i can read it and like finally start ranching for real

[noble leaf]

Hi! I checked the links in the pinned comment, but just to confirm (since the in game description is different), is there a difference between Rockhopper Pumpking "Boosts star quality" and Rice's "Boosts quality of nearby crops"? If I understand the wiki correct they conform the same boost, and as such shouldn't stack?

[supple stone]

Same boost. If you wanted the boost on apple trees, you could use 1 cotton and 1 pumpkin adjacent to the apple tree to get the buff (apple trees need 3 adjacent tiles of a buff to actually get the buff, 2x2s like pumpkins need 2 tiles adjacent with the buff).

Giving more tiles than that would have no effect though.

[noble leaf]

So they wouldn't stack if I planted 1 pumpkin and 1 rice next to a tomato, check! And that is good info, that trees need 3x of the same booster to get boosted thank you! I am still only at level 6, but soon :)

I got two follow up questions,

• is there a formula for expected quality? My understanding is that it is affected by Farming Level, Seed Quality and Quality Boost (Either neighbor plant OR fertilizer)
• And does seed maker inherit the quality of the input? IE. if I put in gold potato, I get gold potato seeds?

[supple stone]

Baseline 25% + 25% if star seed + 50% if quality up buff + 2% per Gardening level

Yes, starred crops give starred seeds. The crops which result in 4 seeds per crop also have a 10% chance for a bonus unstarred seed

[floral talon]

Rice is harvest boost 50% more produce

[frozen flame]

Hey pals. Could someone tell me why only some spots have the number of harvest boost applications while others do not?

[floral talon]

Whats next to the tomatoes

[frozen flame]

rice and wheat

[supple stone]

Well there you go, that's the reason.
If you get the buff from another crop, the fertiliser isn't used.
The number only means how much fertiliser is on the tile

[frozen flame]

So I have tomatoes, beans, spicy peppers, rice, and wheat all around there... you're saying either the rice or wheat is inherently giving harvestboost and so the only crop actually using the fertilizer I've put down is the tomatoes on the corner that are only touching other tomatoes?

[noble leaf]

Thank you @floral talon & @supple stone for the replies! :D

[supple stone]

Yup, any crop not touching rice/wheat/beans will use the fertiliser.
In the case of rice/wheat/beans themselves, they need to get the buff from a different crop that gives the buff, so 2 beans next to each other won't get harvest boost, but 2 beans with 2 rice/wheat in the middle of them will

In the image you shared, the whole left column of tomatoes appears to be using fertiliser (they have the number next to the buff name). Anything which just says Harvest Boost will be getting it from a crop not fertiliser.

[frozen flame]

ok that makes sense. thanks!

[floral talon]

Yw

[tidal venture]

Can someone send me that chart that shows if crops are more profitable as preserves or not

[floral talon]

i dont have the chart but its very simple
bokchoi potato beans seeds
jar the rest
self use aside etc etc
cotton fabric self use only do stop growing it at some point as its cheaper to grow something else and buy fabric(something something quality up effect becoming useless and u getting more starerd stuff)
some stuff is technically equally good seeded as starred but jarring em is easier

obviously if it cant be jarred u seed it if it aint cotton

[tidal venture]

okay thank you!! I was trying to debate whether or not I was going to jar my pumpkins

[floral talon]

uhm dont

[supple wraith]

if you still want it

[tidal venture]

Thank you!

[floral talon]

reasons to not jar ur pumpkins they are SOOO terrible to grow profit wise just pput em in ur storage for when u need em to cook with and dont grow em again
unels u really love growing pumpkins i mean cmon giant orange orbs whats not to love

[tidal venture]

Well I had over 50 and I don’t normally do too much cooking with them so I’ll jar some of them

I was growing pumpkins because it’s fall honestly 😂

[floral talon]

they are so pretty and stylish its true but their buff to other plants is kinda useless for most poeple and they value is so low

[tidal venture]

As much as I would like to use the plant buffs, it looks so disorganized in my mind so I normally only grow 2 types of plants at a time. I’m not trying to make too much gold since I don’t really have anything to buy, more of just passive income

[floral talon]

i can make a layout ment for specifically u if u need it

[tidal venture]

I’ll think about it, thank you!!

[stable horizon]

Hiii. Anyone knows about fertilizer timing? When do we put fertilizer for it to take effect? I used to get 24 apples per harvest using harvestboost fertilizer. But now I only get 16 apples (with that fertilizer). Been like this for a week. I don't know why..

[clear kindle]

fertilizer needs to be present at every growth tic (6am palia time) in order to get full benefit from it. you can stack the fert up to 99. if it's not present then the percentage that it will work goes down

just remember, apples take 9 fert/growth tic

[pliant socket]

does this look good as an ingredient layout? or is there a way to tweak it to make it better, im trying to go for as many boosters as i can and im adding the main ingredients that id use

[wind totem]

ive been using this garden layout for a bit now, works well for me n all, but i've just gotten a pack of batterfly bean seeds, and i was wondering if anyone had any idea how to encourporate it? or do i start from scratch / figure out a different layout? (i also have unused bok choy, pepper, cabbage and corn seeds, though im not sure what i should do with them as well). im still quite new so i have no idea how to manage a garden layout, i dont expect too much but if someone could point me in the right direction id appreciate it (like a good/up to date tutorial? idk) thanks!!

[floral talon]

I never seen that layout before

[true spruce]

anyone run apple jam through a worm farm before selling? it looks like you net more gold but I don't know how to account for the time increase

[clear kindle]

i use to when the jams gave harvest boost instead of quality up as i was running a five tree layout at the time and needed the harvest boost on the trees. once it was changed though i just started to sell jam straight up. it looks like it might just be a 20g increase for an extra hour of work (if the wiki is still up to date)

[true spruce]

yeah I run 5 trees with rice/wheat so I don't need the fertilizer I would just be selling it

[formal delta]

with the event over, I'm going to switch back to an everything layout. I have one, but I'm wondering - what is the current favorite layout here of a garden with all the crops?

[exotic scaffold]

Hi everyone, I was trying to complete a quest and realized I needed to be part of a community to do so. I created my Discord account so I could ask you about it. Is there a Pallia community about animal care, farming, and gathering that I could join?

[supple stone]

#🌱│gardening message I link to Astrea's Everything Gardens in this post, she has loads and they're all good.

[supple stone]

Just ask in the in-game chat for someone to request an easy item you have a bunch of, you can Prove Your Generosity that way
For finding communities, maybe try #1267631845013721158

[compact laurel]

hello I read somewhere that at a certain level everything you grow will be star quality, is that true? And if so, does it apply to normal seeds?

[clear kindle]

it's true. at around level 18 (25 guaranteed) star seeds will start to give nothing but star crops, at around level 38 (50 guaranteed) even normal seeds will give star crops

[compact laurel]

oh cool I'm 17 rn

[supple stone]

38 is guaranteed for unstarred seeds 🙂

[clear kindle]

oh they changed it? i always thought that it was 50 for some reason

[supple stone]

Dunno, but it's been 38 for at the very least since EW when I started

The formula is
25% base chance + 25% if star seed + 50% if quality up + 2% per level
So in order to get 75% from just gardening level, you need to be level 38

[clear kindle]

but that's still not 100% guarantee at level 38 (though you probably will just get star crops using star seeds, you still have a 25% chance to get regular crops if using regular though if my math is mathing, which i'm not the best at that)

[supple stone]

It does - 25% base star chance no matter what, that's why only need 75% from level to guarantee it

38 x 2 = 76, so you hit 100% star chance from just the baseline rate and level at 38

[supple wraith]

its not only a blessing not being able to produce normal crops. I cannot fulfil any crop requests ever And one cannot cook non starred foodstuff.

[floral talon]

i honestly blame the request system and the cooking logic on that one

[mint sandal]

Yeah, my friend and I had to let a recipe got to ruin cause she accidentally started the recipe without ticking to use starred items and we both realized we didn't have regular onions. We managed to request those, but by then also realized we didn't have regular pumpkins and there was just a few seconds left so no time to request

[clear kindle]

they really should make it where it automatically uses star quality over non starred items (after all, irl you'd use the best ingredients first before the subpar stuff when you cook if you've got it) and then if you don't have enough star quality items to automatically use what's left to complete

[supple stone]

Or they could simply make it remember your preference and keeps 'use starred ingredients' checked...

[supple wraith]

ooh! if the game would remember my preferences!
selecting the kind of meat every single time I am grilling meat...but that should probably go to cooking channel 😉

[supple stone]

Ah, if only haha

[noble leaf]

my work around is to lock things up in the lockbox... not the most ideal solution though </3

[hard lance]

Was talking to Artemisia in game and mentioned I'd seen this layout online supposed to be good for weed prevention and water retention

[supple stone]

It doesn't need all that harvest boost fertiliser, a lot of it won't be used as the crop is getting the buff from an adjacent crop.
But yes, if your aim is 100% water/weed buffs and 1 of every crop, it does that

[hard lance]

I already had the fertiliser on the layout from a previous one, just forgot to take them out when i switched the crop out. Thank you for clarifying though 💜

[late pendant]

Elderwood Cosmos should have 3 flowers when they're full grown yeah? Mine stopped at 2 and won't let me water them anymore, so I'm a little confused lol.

[clear fossil]

which crop is the best to turn into jam for the most money and is the most efficient to grow?

[late pendant]

I'm doing tomatoes, apples and pumpkins. Tomatoes are the most effecient for sure as they grow faster and you get a whole bunch per harvest, they also don't take nearly as long as apples and pumpkins do to turn into jam. Pumpkins give the most gold, though they do take a bit of time. I do all starred crops to gain the most gold. Apples take way too long but I get more profit from making jam than just selling the apples.

[clear fossil]

alright thanks

[hard lance]

same here. I know there was a bug with something reverting to seed after being watered. Just noticed a few of my plants i can't water so maybe this is one of them

[late pendant]

That's a bug? I thought it was intended because we get them from the event?

[late pendant]

Yeah, no seeds. Only through the event!

[hard lance]

I was sure i read somewhere something about the bushes not working properly

[late pendant]

I do have quite a few bushes that act really weird when I water them lol so I stopped paying attention to them 😂

[hard lance]

theres a whole bunch of my plants needed watering yesterday, I didnt water them but they don't today and I had read something about plants acting up so I assumed something had been turned off while they dealt with it.

Either that or my plants have said nope we dont want your water now because i neglected them for a week hahahaha

[late pendant]

Revenge of the plants lol. I also noticed some plants have collision? If that's the right word lol. Like the cotton ball flowers and ferns, I can stand on top of them 😂. I haven't used the cotton ball flowers because of it, I found myself getting stuck on them.

[hard lance]

100% the opposite of what youd expect from something named cotton ball hahahahaha how ironic!

[mental ocean]

Is here someone that good a good layout for blueberries, onion, beans, tomato and wheat that dosnt need water? im tryn on garden planner but it kills my brain.. 🙃

[floral talon]

nope not YET!!!
il make one for ya no worries

[floral talon]

DO U NEEED!!! weedblock
and what is ur level so i know if u need quality up

[mental ocean]

nah i can grab the weed 😄 and im lvl 70 on ganeing and in total 691

[floral talon]

can u give me a rough ratio or amount of the plants u need (like the blueberry and beans mostly

[mental ocean]

i guess more ebans than berries because i like the burger party hahaha but its not that important just as it works nicely

[floral talon]

how about this for the aurora loya layout
or loyout ;P
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-T.HCbTOBBOBB-OOT.YBtBtWBtBtW-OOT.HBBCbBBT-T.YWWOBtBtOBtBt-TCbTCbO.HCbTCbT-BtBtOBtBtOWWT.Y-TBBCbBBT.HOO-WBtBtWBtBtT.YOO-BBOBBOTCbT.H_GtL25Cr0.TP7-BP6-BtS7-WS3-OP5-CbP2

u can change any blueberry into bean and viceversa

u can make hte cabbages potatoes to if u want to

[mental ocean]

omg thank you so much! that looks perfect ill test it soon! thank you very very much. do you like a plush as thank you? 🙂

[floral talon]

i fancy myself a cow collector (but all my layouts are free of course)

[mental ocean]

ill write you tomorrow my baby needs me now and its after midnight lol

[floral talon]

all good

[frozen flame]

Am I reading this right? If I plant that stuff in that arrangement, manage it every day, and process the crops as shown, after 10, almost 11 days real time, I will have made 674,508 gold from it all?

[supple stone]

... How are you getting those numbers?
After 180 in-game days of growth, the total money made if you process them as shown is almost 371k.
But to get growth, you need to be online. Whenever you are online, you get 1 tick of growth at the next 6am (in-game time). Even if you get off before then.

But, if you are online all day, you still won't make the advertised amount as your crafters won't manage to keep up.

Besides, 11 irl days is at most 264 growth ticks. That doesn't even hit 600k revenue, so not sure where the 674,508 is coming from

[frozen flame]

Sry I clicked the link because I couldn't read the image. it's different

idk why its different, it looks like its the same layout, best I can tell lol

Ah, I see it is showing the value as if everything is star and turned into seeds or preserves

[supple stone]

Tbh, 2k per growth tick is a bit low, should have realised that.
Still, growth only happens while you are online
It will probably take you a few weeks minimum to get the gold from 180 growth ticks

[frozen flame]

ok thanks

[floral talon]

I first make rough sketch and get ok on that vefore posting link with all settings correctly

[late pendant]

I wish we had white flowers. Like chapaatail flowers but white, or maybe white forget-me-not flowers

[floral talon]

wait what if flowers were dyable

[late pendant]

Ooooh that's a nice idea too lol

[gilded lichen]

besides daily acomplishments, what's best to get more gardening guild coins?

[clear kindle]

leveling up gardening skill

[gilded lichen]

yeah.... im trying my best >_<

[errant wren]

Some people plant aloooooot of potatoes because they're cheap and quick to grow. I've found lately that if I just bulk plant Napa cabbage it sells for decent coin and would work towards increasing your level. Or tomatoes if you have the seeds, especially since you get multiple harvests out of them.

[noble belfry]

How to get the blueberry bush seeds?

[supple stone]

You get given some at gardening level 9 by Badruu.
You have a chance of getting it from lucky coins too I think.
Or, if you get 1 blueberry from rummage piles, you can request more and seed it yourself (you need 4 blueberries for 1 seed)

[floral talon]

Weekly challenges and leveling

[steel turret]

Hi, does the Harvest Boost from an adjacent seed stack the the Harvest Boost Fertilizer? Thank you

[floral talon]

No u get it from the plant or from the fert

[supple stone]

Nope, don't stack.
If you have the buff from adjacent crops and from fertiliser, the fertiliser just won't be used.
If you inspect your crops, you'll see that Harvest Boost has no number next to it, this means the fertiliser isn't being used

[steel turret]

Oh thank you everyone

[sterile falcon]

They keep adding more and more things to garden, but yet still cap us at 9 plots. Why? This is crazy, I cannot grow everything and have enough of various things in my stockpile.

[supple wraith]

same as in every game, there is some balancing happening - soil plots, animal limit, production timers and so on...
everycrop layout from before - I am sure it is not the only one #🌱│gardening message

[supple stone]

#🌱│gardening message has a load of everything gardens too, courtesy of Astrea

[finite heron]

Does anyone has the crop layout with no watering, no weeding, that has as much as possible crops that can be harvested multiple times before needing to be replanted (apples, berries, pumpkins, peppers, etc.)?

[floral talon]

i take it u just want a lazy gardennig layout?

[finite heron]

as lazy as it gets 🤣 its so annoying to hoe ground all the time, idk why

[finite heron]

thank youuu ❤️

[floral talon]

for the fertiliser just dump excess ranching stuff and meats and mushrooms and if still short grill some exces fsh i never run out thanks ranching

[finite heron]

pretty sure i have couple of hundreds sitting in box because im too lazy to even fertilise it 🤣

[floral talon]

yeay this thing can make u run out fast XD

and then run out of wormables but yeay rnaching to the rescue

[proper swift]

hi friends! i am trying to do the “prove your devotion” quest and it is wanting me to plant 3 trees BUT i am struggling to find the stuff to plant trees ? any suggestions?

[hollow marsh]

there's a chance for tree seeds to drop when chopping medium and large trees! each seed varies tree to tree, acorns from oak trees, pinecones from pine trees, etc

[proper swift]

thank you!!

[pulsar cliff]

When growing crops should I be using grow boost fertiliser everytime i get the chance or just when crops are ready to harvest?

[clear kindle]

for it to be 100% effective you need to have fert on the crop at every growth tic (6am palia time), if not the chance of it working goes down. you can stack up to 99 of a fert on each crop so you don't have to keep running back to apply it

[chrome bane]

Do crops only grow when you're online? Or do they just take a lot longer now or something?

[manic meteor]

They will only grow one growth tick while offline.

[dreamy nymph]

Are we going to be able to get more farming plots?

[manic meteor]

No news on any additional soils, but we have been asking since the beginning 🙏

[cloud scroll]

I think it’d be neat if some of the fertilizers had different colours!
Idk which colours would fit each one

[scarlet vigil]

this was my garden plan from back in late 2023/early 2024... how cooked am I

[supple stone]

Not really cooked at all, that's still a solid layout.
If you want a bit more profit, sub or the carrots for bok choy.
The only disadvantage to the layout is that the apples aren't harvest boosted really

[floral talon]

What Cysrulean said let us know if u want something else

[wise canopy]

yay :D i made it

[scarlet vigil]

what do you recommend changing to harvest boost apples

[supple stone]

The easiest change is to just put harvest boost fertiliser on the apples
You would need 9 fertiliser per in-game day, but you can stack 99 fertiliser on it.
So just dumping fertiliser on it once per irl day would probably be enough.

It would be tricky to maintain all the buffs whilst getting that apple tree harvest boosted without fertiliser

[supple stone]

This is the easiest way to do it with no fertiliser, but you get a off-center tree (which can have a bunch of visual glitches), plus the middle Rice in the bottom middle soil has no weed block buff...and you've lost 2 tiles of harvest boost buff (the 2 onions in the bottom row)
The 2 blank spots can be anything as all tiles around them have the 3 main buffs already
Naturally, you can swap out some of the rice for corn if you need it (or more wheat)

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-PTOBkWRORP-BkPTRWRTBkO-OBkPRWTTRO-TRBkPWOBkRT-PNNAAAAAA-PRBkBkWPORT-ORPTWBkPBkO-AAARRRTPBk-TROPWBkOTP

[late pendant]

I wish we had a giant hose to water multiple things at once from a distance 😂. I am growing like 40 trees right now and this is painful

Or a sprinkler system 😅

[floral talon]

yeay

[thin mauve]

Hi! I'm relatively new on the game and I'm paying more attention to my crops now. Is the above planner the best crop distribution to a "self-sustainable" farm?

[floral talon]

layouts are made tailored to one person specifics needs

[slow flame]

got to give them water somewhere 🙂

[amber stream]

If you plant a starred seed is it guaranteed to grow a starred veg?

[floral talon]

25% base chance +25% from starred seeds +50% from quality up +2% per level in percent points

[late pendant]

Are Cyprus trees supposed to give seeds? Or no?

[atomic bobcat]

I get the issue of constantly told "something is in the way" when there is nothing even close to where im placing the item "my garden plot soil"

Anyone know a solution for this?

[late pendant]

Maybe you're standing way too close? Sometimes you need to stand back a bit

[amber stream]

Ah! Maths! Thank you!

[timid crescent]

I accidentally watered one of my trees that I didn't want to grow any larger, is there any way I can prevent it from growing?

[round sorrel]

no, you’ll have to plant a new one. it’ll give you a seed to do so once it’s fully grown, or you can request a seed.

[hollow quiver]

Hi all. With the tool garden planner thing. Has anyone trialed a setup where you get a bunch of potato and maybe either apple or blueberry, plus if possible something else that can make a bit of money?
Context; i dislike cooking so i get most of my focus food from preserve jar potatoes and either apple or blueberry preserve. So ideally id grow those. With some wriggle room for other stuff that might be profitable. Does such a setup exist already that someone has made or should i just play around with the tool myself to see what happens?

[supple stone]

Any reason you aren't using Canned Beans? They're by far the best lazy food source

[late pendant]

Not sure if this helps because I haven't used the garden planner, but I grow primarily tomatoes, pumpkins and apples and make the starred ones all into jams and use the regular for seeds. I use this for gold though and not food. I make a decent amount per round, like roughly 15k-20k depending. I use the HarvestBoost fertilizer as well for more crops. It's a bit time consuming, and I mostly wait a full real day before they're done. Tomatoes go the fastest, and I get so many. So while the apples and pumpkins take longer, I'm just adding more starred tomatoes as I go. I have 6 perserves jars working constantly. Maybe you can do something like that and just use some for food too? 😊 (This is just how I do it, others may have better ideas or ways)

[supple stone]

#🌱│gardening message
Is a modified bullseye layout.
For profit, you'd ideally want to swap the rice and corn so you have more rice.
I also prefer onions to carrots. Essentially the same profit per day, but onions need replanting after 4 not 3 days.
As I said, Beans are the most efficient food source from non-cooking sources.
If you want apples or blueberries specifically then we can work on that

[hollow quiver]

Oh are they better for focus purposes? I havet really tested them before

I make most of my gold mining so thats not what is use my garden for. Really in mostly interested in getting good focus food preserves and maybe a little money if doable. But thats bot my priority

[supple stone]

Yup, same focus as apple jam but cheaper and you get more beans per tile than you get apples per tile

[floral talon]

Beans do need more babysitting due to fast again harvesttimes

[olive pumice]

Any recs for a bean-heavy set up for late game player, that only needs quality boost fert and is 100%water retention and weed block? Wanting to switch it up. I can play around with the garden planner, but thought I'd see it anyone already had it. Don't really need all crops in it, but I do jar and seed pretty much everything.

Usually use Apple preserves for focus, but they make good points about switching to canned beans

[supple stone]

Most of the really heavy bean setups use a little bit of non-HB fert from memory. Good chance there are some I'm forgetting though

[nova vapor]

I’m newer to the game and I want to use gardening as passive money but big money in a sense per raw harvest as I doubt I can do much in terms of processing them. I’m currently planting all bak choy. Is there something better for both money and even exp. And what is the best setup for gardening to make the most of the soil

[floral talon]

everyhting is same xp though
u need ot use the buffs
harvest boost and quality up increase the profit ALOT

[nova vapor]

Yeah but let’s say is it better to plant like 1 rice seed surrounded by bok choy for the harvest boost or all bok. I’m not at a stage where I can get the fertilizer for harvest boost etc so the next best thing is rice or wheat

[floral talon]

yes that is better
do u yet know what the buffs do? and how to get em

[nova vapor]

I have read them and all so I would say yes as it seems straight forward

Now with that in mind what orientation for the plants would give me the most yield

[floral talon]

ok so the part u need is just a layout for lower levels how many soils u got?

[nova vapor]

I would assume in a single 3 by 3 plant the rice in the middle and then 8 bok choy

[nova vapor]

I have them all

[floral talon]

nice nice but u also need quality up at lower levels

[nova vapor]

I forgot which plant does that atm but how should I layout the plants

[floral talon]

as above if u wanna water everything u can replace the potato and cabbage with bokchoi and if u want more money replace the corn with rice and the rice in this layout with wheat

cotton should be used to craft all the fabric ur gonna need anyways

[nova vapor]

I probably will replace the corn with cotton as idk how useful corn is atm

[floral talon]

but then u dont get harvest boost everywhere

[nova vapor]

Oh I see.

Now with the wheat in that photo can I put rice there or no

[floral talon]

i mean i just picked crops that are ez to tell apart and have synced harvest replant times

for most moneys rice > wheat > corn of the single tile hb giving crops

[nova vapor]

Can you quickly showcase for me what mine would look like with bokchoi and all. As I believe I am understanding but just want to make sure

[floral talon]

basically this pattern everywhere

[nova vapor]

So just replace those 4 rows placements down the entire plot

[floral talon]

yeay basically

[nova vapor]

So the hole top row will exactly like the top left right if I’m understanding correctly

[floral talon]

wait a second i got a idea

[nova vapor]

Okay

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-Co.HBkR.QCoBkWRBkCo-BkCo.HBkBkCoBkBkRBk-R.QBkCo.HWBkCoCoBkR-WBkCoCoBkRCoBkW-BkWBkBkCoBkBkCoBk-CoBkWRBkCoWBkCo-RBkCoWBkCoCoBkR.H-BkRBkBkWBkBkCoBk-CoBkRCoBkWR.HBkCo

this is what U want
im not suggesting it u just want this specifically

[nova vapor]

I think so, I just feel like it would be best for me and for late game when I can make jars etc

[plush inlet]

Anyone know where there’s a garden layout that is water retaining, has peppers, blueberries, and apples?

[floral talon]

nope everything in this layout is seeded
and late game dont need quality up anymore so no more cotton yey

[floral talon]

do u need weedblock and quality up to or nah

[plush inlet]

Preferably weed block

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-Cb.HPOBkAAOAA-BkCbPARCrAOBk-OBkCb.HBBPBBO-PAACbCrO.WBkRP-ACbP.HCr.HpSpSpRSpSp-CbRBkOCrCbBkRP-ORCbPCrRCb.HBkO-BkOPRCrRPCbBk-CbRORCrBkOPCb.H

[plush inlet]

Thank you!!!!

[upper solstice]

Has anyone made a layout for the new bundle stuff?

[floral talon]

idk whats in it yet though but i can make one

[upper solstice]

Are you in game ATM? If not I'll go and write it out for you 🙂

Ty btw, I'm really bad at building stuff like that for the farm

[floral talon]

plz do

[upper solstice]

Cool give me 2 mins

25 fabric, 25 canned beans, 25 cabbage kimchi, 25 tomato starred, 25 peppers starred, 25 wheat, 25 corn

Also need veggie chilli & veggie soup but not sure about the ingredients for the chilli

For the chilli:
Beans, carrots, onion, spicy pepper, tomato, corn

[upper solstice]

Lmk if you want chilli ingredients and I'll go look

[floral talon]

mh having the chili soup ingredients on hand would also greatly simplyfy it

i dont need ingredients for veggie soup as that is basically anything

[upper solstice]

There's also foraging stuff for the chilli

[floral talon]

true but we can ignore that for layout making

[upper solstice]

Yeye!

Edited the post that's everything I think!
There's furniture but not sure if the homestead stuff uses fabric or not

[floral talon]

~~25 fabric, ~~ just buy it thats cheaper unles u need hte quality up buff from cotton
25 canned beans, must have beans in bulleting layout
25 cabbage kimchi, 25 tomato starred, any water retain layout
25 peppers starred, have peppers
25 wheat, 25 corn Single tile HB plants

Also need veggie chilli & veggie soup but not sure about the ingredients for the chilli

For the chilli:
Beans, carrots, onion (WEEDBLOCK IN THE LAYOUT), spicy pepper, tomato, corn

ok so just a afk HB beans and peppers layout with some 1tile HBs

mh i kinda doubt u need that many pepper plants and beans though

il whip something up shortly

[upper solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-shook-shock-what-question-gif-12304137

Confusion

Maybe throw some stuff for profits on top? I dunno 🥲

[upper solstice]

You're a legend mate!

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-Cb.HTOCBtBtOBtBt-CCbTWCrWTOC-O.HC.HCb.HSST.HSSO.H-TCrCCbWOCCrT-CbCrCbTRCCbCrCb-TCrCOWCbCCrT-OBtBtTBtBtCb.HCO-COTWCrWTCbC-BtBtOBtBtCOTCb.H_GtL25Cr0.BtS5-SP2-WS2-CrP3-CbP4-TP5-OP4-CP4-RS

Bulletin board Layout aka bundle

[upper solstice]

Thank you ❤️

[fiery apex]

hello, does anyone know if theres a spreadsheet version of this image? im unsure where i downloaded this from but im finding it hard to read

[upper solstice]

I don't wanna talk about how long this took me 😭

[floral talon]

could u fill in the harvest boost fert correctly

[upper solstice]

I did it wrong? 😭

I put the fert on everything 🥲

[floral talon]

makes it kinda hard to see if its good

i do kinda wonder what that layout is for cuz while its technicaly everything its quiet low on single tile hb crops which are used ALOT in most recipes

[floral talon]

send link il fix it for ya

[upper solstice]

I just wanted to have apples, blueberries, peppers and beans on the same thing with water retention & weed protection 😭

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-T.HP.HBk.HC.HPm.HPm.HO.HPm.HPm.H-C.HT.HCb.HT.HC.HBk.HP.HBk.HT.H-T.HS.HS.HO.HS.HS.HCb.HT.HC.H-T.HCb.HT.HW.HBk.HO.HC.HP.HT.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-C.HO.HBk.HCb.HW.HT.HT.HBk.HP.H-Bk.HT.HCb.HBt.HBt.HT.HBt.HBt.HC.H-C.HBk.HT.HW.HCb.HO.HBk.HT.HBk.H-P.HC.HT.HT.HB.HB.HC.HB.HB.H_L17

And then I thought I could swap the wheat out with corn when I have a stockpile 😭

[floral talon]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-T.HP.HBk.HC.HPm.HPm.HO.HPm.HPm.H-C.HT.HCb.HT.HC.HBk.HPBkT-T.HS.HS.HO.HS.HS.HCb.HT.HC.H-TCb.HTW.HBkOCP.HT-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-COBk.HCbW.HTTBkP.H-BkTCb.HBt.HBt.HTBt.HBt.HC-CBkTW.HCbO.HBkT.HBk.H-P.HCTTB.HB.HCB.HB.H_L17

[floral talon]

u did get it to work u can be proud of urself

[upper solstice]

It took me like 2 hours 😭 told you my brain can't with things like that 🥲

How long have you played for cause you're like a pro at making these things 😂

[floral talon]

idk i spend a few hours to figure out how stuff gives each other buffs and hten i use siple rule of thumb rules to make em in 5min

[upper solstice]

That's p impressive in itself tbf

[floral talon]

i mean there could soimetimes be a layout thats better then mine but those are super hard to plant without a reference since they dont use a pattern

[floral talon]

awh thanks and if u need a layout feel free to ask
warning im like a genie u get what u wish for so be carefull what u ask

[upper solstice]

Thank you 🥹

[upper solstice]

Tbf once I plant I only harvest one crop at a time unless I'm changing my layout

[floral talon]

u mean one croptype as in continous instant harvesting/replanting?

[upper solstice]

Ye so I'll do all the tomato's then carrots then potatoes then onions etc

Pick them all, plant them all then water em all at once

[floral talon]

this is my everything layout its always fun to compare ur own to others so u know what the maximum effectiveness is u can get

[upper solstice]

Ooooooh okay thank you! ❤️
Yeah I'm still trying to figure that all out, I know that pumpkins aren't worth it for how long they take but just wanting to stockpile some stuff you know?

[floral talon]

yeay thats fine and for some poeple who do pumpkin roles inpartys they are good to grow

[upper solstice]

Yeah exactly:)

[chilly pewter]

Is anyone having issues using the hoe on their plot? It worked for the piles, but the hoe is just sticking into the ground for me.

[terse vale]

Hey! Thought id drop my plot plan for this bundle pack, should have everything and its got all weed protection and mostly watered

[opaque nacelle]

is there an easier way to redo my garden besides letting everything grow out

[terse vale]

You can dig everything up, but you'll lose the seeds you planted

[opaque nacelle]

how? i'm dumb

[warm pulsar]

what the best profit making layout rn? assuming ill be afk next to my garden and replanting asap

[terse vale]

On the computer its the right mouse button, but otherwise you'll have to look it up (with the hoe)

[compact laurel]

the carrots i planted grew into rice in one day wtf

found a cool bug

[supple stone]

It's from a Reddit post, which has been linked here before #🌱│gardening message
Unfortunately, there is no spreadsheet version linked
I shared a much simpler image here #🌱│gardening message if that helps, but it's nowhere near as detailed.

[supple stone]

Most profitable is full Bok Choy with full harvest boost fertiliser. Manual watering and weeding every day.
Otherwise check here #🌱│gardening message
Best with no fertiliser is Aquajj's mix of Bok Choy and grains, still needs manual watering and weeding daily.
If you want no watering/weeding, the Bullseye layout.
Otherwise, everything else there is a compromise between being water/weed proof and how much fertiliser you want to use

Though if this bug of carrots turning into Rice in one day is reliable, that could also be really strong if you're willing to replant every day.
I've not tested it though

I should mention though, growing whatever and taking it to a cooking parties is going to make more profit than even full Bok Choy layouts

[wooden ferry]

Apologies if this has already been asked but I was wondering if someone knows what the easiest/quickest crop is to grow that will give produce for an easy/quick recipe for the potluck to maximise output of easy food?
Nvm just seen grilled oysters are eligible and given I have saved 900 trying to get the last pebble I guess that’s where I’ll start!

[graceful needle]

Does anyone else have issues from time to time where you definitely water your plants after planting the seed but then when 6am comes around, one or more of the seeds don't undergo a growth tic and instead show as not being watered? It happens randomly from time to time but is quite annoying

[clear kindle]

if a crop is not next to a water buffing crop (tomato, potato or cabbage in a + shape) or if you're not using the water retain fertilizer then you need to water them every hour (6am palia time). if this is the case, then it's working as planned

[graceful needle]

My entire garden is water retaining boosted based on tomato & potato placement so I don't have to water every day. The problem though is that the seed isn't even undergoing a growth tic. It shows as watered at 5am, 6am rolls around and it doesn't grow but the watering gauge shows up as empty and the soil is dry

[floral talon]

Show layout
Either it was harvestable
Or ur suffering from the having 9weeds timetravel bug
Or it doesnt have water retain buff

[graceful needle]

This is my layout. It happened to the BokChoy plant that's right above the bottom right corner (if it's a grid then it would be the plant in row 8, column 9). I planted and watered it the night before, all other bok choy grew no problem. This one stayed as a seed and went from "watered" to "dry" at 6am. I can understand the weeds causing it to dry out but it doesn't make sense to me that it wouldn't have done a growth tic though

[floral talon]

Must have not been fully watered then

[graceful needle]

lol I'm saying it was and this isn't the first time it's happened so I now always double check that things are watered. I'll try and record next time it happens

[floral talon]

But if u had a weed on it then no grow and unwater
If u had 9 weeds total nothing would grow

[graceful needle]

No weed either since it was freshly planted

[floral talon]

How strange

[graceful needle]

It's hard to capture because it's so random and I don't feel like standing there watching my garden grow 😂

[floral talon]

U tell when i once had stuff grow in reverse

[graceful needle]

Wait.. huh? Like a benjamin button plant? 😂

[floral talon]

Knapweed bug

[supple stone]

Very occasionally, I feel like I've had this before.
Usually just one crop though, so very possible I have missed watering 1 crop, but I tend to be good at watering everything as I know my layouts' pattern rather well by now.
Can't prove anything though so just assume I do a bad watering job sometimes

[graceful needle]

Yeah that was what I thought to at first. I'll try and capture it for a bug report one day

[cursive gyro]

I’m kinda sad you can’t have as many soil plots as you want. I need so many more right now. I feel like you should be able to buy more for each housing plot you have

[supple stone]

Common criticism, but despite many people asking for more soils, they have never added more.
Lots of people wanted them for decorative purposes and now this patch added decorative crops, so the only reason for more crops now is just more gardening.

Gardening is fairly well balanced as being a good passive supplementary revenue stream, but it's not intended to be the main source of income. If they added more soils, they'd probably feel like they had to rebalance crop costs and food costs, but you'd likely still be earning more overall so they might need to rebalance the costs of everything else. Lots of effort for that!

What do you need so many more soils for?

[past hare]

Because a lot of us like gardening 😂

[cursive gyro]

Cooking, worm farms, crafting fabric, and now feeding animals

[floral talon]

I swear some poeple want farming instead of gardening

[fiery apex]

thank you so much!

[supple stone]

So do I. It's my highest skill by a good margin. I still recognise there needs to be a balance though

[supple stone]

Worm farms are honestly best filled with non-produce items.
Grilled fish or cooking party foods if you want lots of glows/worms/fert, ranching produce or cheap meat/forage if you just want a steady stream of stuff (and higher profits)
Also, it is more cost effective to grow most other single tile crops and buy fabric rather than grow cotton and make fabric yourself.

Animals should NOT be fed raw crops. At the very least preserve them first. Their focus depletes so slowly that most animals only need feeding once a week. If you feel you have to feed them every day, use their own produce (milk is especially good for this). Cheaper than using raw crops.

In terms of needing crops for cooking, it's rather difficult to cook with everything you grow already. It's also rather unprofitable.
Of course profit is less important if it's a skill you enjoy, but again, very difficult to cook with everything you grow

[supple stone]

Makes sense though, Stardew is one of the most Popular cosy games ever, and had kinda set a precedent for what people expect from a farming like skill. So I'm not surprised people have different expectations to what we get in Palia's gardening skill.

[clever parcel]

Sorry if this has been asked before but are we no longer able to dig up crops? I have a couple just in my way and not optimal that I'm looking to dig up but can't lol

[floral talon]

rcliock with the hoe?

[clever parcel]

Did that, no luck. Tomato and spicy pepper for context

[floral talon]

like hold rclick with hoe on that tile not work 😮

[clever parcel]

Nope, nothing :/

[floral talon]

how bizar

[nova vapor]

Want to know. I hit gardening 9 or 8 and got the preserve jar. I want to make the kimchi outta bok choy etc. what farm setup will get me the most per harvest in terms of gold. I would assume all bok with fertilizer for harvest boost or something

[clear kindle]

correct, a field of bok choy with either harvest boost fert or strategically placed rice/corn/wheat to give the boost is the best layout for max gold. though you would want to put the bok choy into the seeder over jar for gold

[nova vapor]

I already have a seeder going with star bok choy in it

[nova vapor]

To reduce the amount of fertilizer do you know the setup that would help me attain near max using rice and bok choy

[floral talon]

But then again its not like u own sufficient crafters to seed everything

[floral talon]

Ud still need a low level layout at that point
Would help u get perfrct layout gor ys if it wasnt sleep time

[atomic merlin]

Hi! Could someone please help me? With fertiliser, do I need to use it on my crops everyday or just once per harvest of the plant I’m using it on? And if the pink specs disappear does that mean I need to re-fertilise?

[nova vapor]

I can probably at my stage if I really wanted get like 4 maybe more down

[nova vapor]

is that fully optimized?

[clear kindle]

i believe so if you don't want to use fertilizers, it was made by user Aqaji, who also has a youtube video of it

[nova vapor]

i dont mind using some fertilizer

[clear kindle]

i have never tried this layout personally because it's too much work and i just want a lazy layout

[nova vapor]

that is fair lol.

[gloomy agate]

That looks like alot of watering

[supple stone]

Fertiliser must be present every in-game day.
This doesn't mean you have to apply it every day though - you can place down up to 99 fertiliser on a crop and it will use 1 per tile the crop sits on per day (so apples use 9 per day. Bushes use 4)
There's no quick way to place down 99 fertiliser, you just have to spam the use item button - 99 times for single tile crops, 25 times for bushes, 11 times for apple trees

[atomic merlin]

Thanks so much! I appreciate your explanation <3

[tawny remnant]

Morning guys, Please help if you can answer this Im still quite new here to Palia xD
I have placed my soil patches the wrong places but i had already "Hoed" them and now im stuck I cant pick it up into storage? how can i pick it up again ?

[supple stone]

If it's just somewhere on the same plot that you want to move it, you should be able to without picking them up into your inventory. It's a different keybind when you look at the soil - move Vs pick up
If you want to move it to a different plot, unfortunately there is no shortcut. You have to wait 48 irl hours for the soil to un-till by itself

(Unless something has changed, but I don't think it has)

[tawny remnant]

thank you for replying :D, i managed to move it under top view of the plot xD

[pastel trail]

If you combine fertilizer does it work? or is it like 1 per slot

[supple stone]

1 per slot. If you put a different type of fertiliser on, the stack of fertiliser that's already on the tile is returned to your inventory

[gritty coral]

is there a way to make our garden plot bigger?

[supple stone]

If you don't have the maximum 9 soil plots yet, you can buy more from Badruu as long as you're Gardening level 2 or higher.
If you're already at 9 soil plots, no way to get more.
If you want it for decorative purposes, decorative crop recipes just got added to the gardening guild store.

[gritty coral]

hmm ok

[austere bane]

I want to grow crops that are not star quality and no matter what they always come out starred. This happens even when I don’t use ANY fertilizer at all. Does anyone experience this?

[floral talon]

star chance scales per level
u do want everyhting starred aside from gifting and forgetting the alow star checkbox
no u do not need starred foragables to cook with ur starred veggies

[thorny jacinth]

You can buy not starred quality from Badruu's farm store if you're looking to have supplies for gifting
Otherwise as DuhScape said you want everything starred. helps to cook with or preserve or seed cause it sells for more

[upper solstice]

Was just scrolling through chat a little, just wondering, is there any particular reason that turning crops into seeds creates more profit than preserves? I know with beans they're 90g in comparison to the 30ish gold you get from canned but my brains struggling with the maths for other seeds

[supple stone]

It doesn't always.
Bok Choy, Potatoes, Beans, Rice, Wheat and Cotton are best seeded.
Everything else generates more profit when preserved.
Also, with Beans it's not quite as good as you're saying as you need 2 Beans per 1 Seed, but Preserves is 1:1

#🌱│gardening message has a link to some good tables which are good for referencing at a glance.
They don't consider the replanting cost of crops, but that only really changes how a couple of things stack up against each other

[upper solstice]

So canning is better for beans? I've been seeding them 🥲

[supple stone]

Oh no, seeding is better

[upper solstice]

Okay okay I'll go have a wee look!

I just wanna have a wee factory 🥲😂

[supple stone]

Are you by any chance Scottish? 😄

[upper solstice]

👀 maybe

Born an bred 😂

[supple stone]

My sister moved up to Scotland a while back, she's started saying things like wee haha

[upper solstice]

Ohhh nice, West or East coast?

I'm from the West but been living in the east for 10 years now so I've got a bit of a twang 😂

[supple stone]

Wherever Inverness is, I'm terrible at Geography

[upper solstice]

That's just North I think😂 basically at the top of the country

Suppose you could say East coast maybe

[supple stone]

haha, so maybe I'm not so bad. Really didn't think it was either East or West 😄

[upper solstice]

Get her to make you some stovies next time you see her!

[supple stone]

Not heard of a stovie hah

Besides, not sure she cooks Scottish stuff so much (maybe she's a bad Scottish resident, who can say?)

[warm pulsar]

what causes the garden to be untillable in weird spots

[daring sage]

That's strange! I've never had that happen before. Probably dumb question, but you've tried tiling those spots right?

[warm pulsar]

yes lol

this happened on two different plots (im helping others garden) but i was able to till other tiles so idk why its only a few i cant each time

[true spruce]

anyone feed apple jam to worms? it looks like jam sells for 144 a jar but the worms + fertilizer sell for 164

[supple stone]

If you were helping others, was this only on other plots?
And was the host able to till the affected tiles?
Otherwise did reloading the plot help?

[supple stone]

You're right. Putting preserves into a worm farm gives more profit, but you can make more profit using animal produce from ranching or cheap forage/meat in glow worm farms if you want to squeeze the most money out of your crafters

[true spruce]

oh hm do you cook the forage/meat first?

I hate ranching haha

[supple stone]

Nope, raw.
Anything up to 15g value produces 40g of stuff in a glow farm (up to 31g profit with Floatfish and Staircase Mushrooms)
16-25g value items give 45g of stuff, so Sernuk/Muujin meats give 29g profit

And that's fine about Ranching, was just saying it's an option 🙂

[true spruce]

ohh interesting

I haven't really thought about worms for profit before

I'm thinking 3 farms for harvestboost (I run 8 apple trees), then the rest on jam just to simplify things

[remote hemlock]

Hello guys, I put together an afk scheme only on apple jam for about 1000-1500 gold per day. This option leaves plenty of space for other needs. What do you think?
v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-NA.YA.YNA.YA.YC.YA.YA.Y-A.YNA.YA.YR.YA.YA.YC.YA.Y-A.YA.YNA.YA.YNA.YA.YC.Y-Bk.YR.YR.YC.YA.YA.YNA.YA.Y-C.YBk.YC.YA.YC.YA.YA.YR.YA.Y-R.YR.YBk.YA.YA.YC.YA.YA.YN-NA.YA.YNNNNNN-A.YNA.YNNNNNN-A.YA.YNNNNNNN_D30NrNrcGtL25Cr0.AP

[floral talon]

Post full link plz

[remote hemlock]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-NA.YA.YNA.YA.YC.YA.YA.Y-A.YNA.YA.YR.YA.YA.YC.YA.Y-A.YA.YNA.YA.YNA.YA.YC.Y-Bk.YR.YR.YC.YA.YA.YNA.YA.Y-C.YBk.YC.YA.YC.YA.YA.YR.YA.Y-R.YR.YBk.YA.YA.YC.YA.YA.YN-NA.YA.YNNNNNN-A.YNA.YNNNNNN-A.YA.YNNNNNNN_D30NrNrcGtL25Cr0.AP

It’s strange, for some reason I didn’t miss the link the first time

Here is the version with 5 trees
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-A.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.Y-R.YC.YR.YR.YBk.YR.YR.YC.YR.Y-A.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.Y-C.YBk.YC.YNNNC.YBk.YC.Y-A.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.Y-C.YBk.YC.YN.YNNC.YBk.YC.Y-A.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.Y-R.YC.YR.YR.YBk.YR.YR.YC.YR.Y-A.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.YA.Y_D30NrNrcGtL25Cr0.AP

[remote hemlock]

The server does not allow hidden links, but I was given the rights to the images, so here is the first example that shows how often you need to visit your home (sorry for spam)

[supple stone]

There are quite a few people who don't like buying fertiliser from Zeki as it needs a trek over there each time.
But, this is a good way of syncing up crop harvest cycles as much as possible, so gj with that

[remote hemlock]

I was planning on using 3-day loops here as a nice bonus. The main idea is to collect nothing but apples, thereby leaving them with bonuses and reducing the need for already minimal field maintenance to a 6-day period. In this case, harvesting different crops at different times is also excluded, since only one type of plant remains.
Regarding fertilizers, well, if you don’t mind leaving 800-1000 places in the chests,
then 1200 fertilizer for the first scheme can be bought once every 30 game hours and fertilized around days 10 and 20 or better every 6 hours to synchronize this with harvesting. I thought it was a bit of a burden

[supple stone]

Ok, misunderstood a bit then haha. I thought the 3 day crops were picked intentionally so you only went back every 3 days.
If you're not bothering to harvest anything but apples, you can fit in 6 apples and still get all 3 main buffs if you use fertiliser.
You can also use harvest boost fertiliser which you can make in glow/worm farms too. Though this might be less of a bother for you.
I never have that much free space for fertiliser personally though 😄

[fallen notch]

What are some Good crops that I should be growing throughout the game ?

I was thinking cotton as it is used to make fabric

But I need some more suggestions

[remote hemlock]

Oh, now that you said 6 trees, I think I understand how to do it and it actually looks better, it just takes a little fertilizer or effort to grow single rows. I don't quite understand the mechanics of the worm maker and Water Retain, don't aquatic plants lose water once they mature?

[remote hemlock]

I don't have a complete understanding either, but I've seen a couple of opinions that you'll need to grow 100 of each star crop if you want to cook all types of food at star quality

[fallen notch]

Hmm

[supple stone]

False, but there is an accomplishment for getting 100 of almost every star crops

[supple stone]

Was going to say you can reduce the fertiliser needed for those rows by using 2 weed blocks then 2 water retains and repeating the pattern btw, then you only need fertiliser at the ends of the lines...but Duh's layout beats me to that haha

I should also mention that crops don't need to be watered or weeded in order to actually apply their buff. If they are present in the soil, they give their buff to adjacent crops.

What you are mentioning about aquatic crops losing water once they mature is not quite true.
All crops need watering manually once when first planted.
Additionally, if you miss harvesting a multi-harvest crop by a day, then it stops using the water buff and will need re-watering again. This is intentional so that the water fert isn't used up when it's just sitting there ready to harvest (water fert and water crops give the exact same buff afterall)

[remote hemlock]

Ah, then I think I misunderstood why this is😅

[floral talon]

O My Phoenix i have a brilliant idea

what if wai for it
we use those plastic plants to place down on our plot as a way to write down layouts

[supple stone]

Cotton is mainly good at the start. Later on, it actually works out more cost-effective to buy the fabric later and grow other single-tile crops instead. Earlier you benefit more from quality up though.

I guess Tomatoes, Rice, Wheat, Onions are very common in recipes so good to grow.
Apples are needed for Honey Lures when you have access to them. So also useful.
I like Beans, when canned are great as either animal feed or (if I can't be bothered to cook) me feed.
Bok Choy are the most profitable crop when seeded.

As Nor alluded to, it is beneficial to grow 1 of every crop to get the accomplishment, but all you get for that is some renown.

Honestly, there are layouts that include one of everything. So you could grow everything for a bit and see what you end up wanting more or less of

[supple stone]

Interesting idea

[floral talon]

only exception is that when ur short on crafter time making fabric is quiet fast compared to jarring something to sell to byu fabric wiht but yeay since letting crafters work overnight this probs wont happen to almost anyone anyways

[supple stone]

You might like to read this post of mine, Warrior: #🌱│gardening message

[fallen notch]

I currently have surplus of onions and carrot even tomato i basically use them for veggie soup

[remote hemlock]

It definitely makes more sense with alternation, yes. Did I understand correctly that only a couple of potatoes and cabbage will be useful, since they will not lose their water after they grow?

[supple stone]

No, everything loses the water after the final harvest

(Which for all single-tile crops except tomatoes is the first harvest)

Every water-retain crop you have is useful in that is gives water retain buff to everything adjacent to it, every day

NOTHING is able to prevent you needing to water when replanting a crop though
And if you are a day late on harvesting the apples, NOTHING prevents them from losing hte water and needing manual watering then.

Is that clearer?

[remote hemlock]

I get the point, yes, I'm worried about something else. According to the wiki (I haven't played enough to notice this myself), won't we have to replant the aquatic plants if the water drains from the apples?

[clear kindle]

no, i do a complete lazy apple layout. if you miss the harvest on the apples, you just need to rewater them and the buff crops will still do their jobs

[remote hemlock]

Ahh, I realized, I mistranslated the last part from my screenshot and thought that the aquatic plant itself must be watered to give out the effect. Somehow it didn't contradict what you said in my head😔

Thank you all for your help!

[tall egret]

question, why am I constantly having re-water my veg that I have surrounded with water retention plants....it's only just started happening

I went from just weeding to having to weed and water constantly

[supple stone]

Can you share your layout please?
And not moved the farm, or changed the layout at all? Finally, when did this start?

[tall egret]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-PmPmPPmPmCbPmPmP-PmPmCbPmPmPBtBtCb-PmPmPPmPmCbBtBtP-PmPmCbPCbPPmPmCb-BtBtPCbPCbBtBtP-BtBtCbPCbPBtBtCb-PmPmPPmPmCbPmPmP-BtBtCbPmPmPPmPmCb-BtBtPPmPmCbPmPmP_D180L50

I'm going to say it started....perhaps last week, prior to the patch, I believe.

I haven't moved the farm since I put it down, 2 years, lol

[floral talon]

if stuff is harvestable the next growthtick it unwaters

[tall egret]

It's happening during weeding as well, randomly, all plants being affected both water retained and not....so when it's harvestable, it loses it's water retention? Was that a change implemented?

[supple stone]

If you harvest a multi-harvest crop a day late, it becomes un-watered so that any fertiliser on the tile doesn't continue to get used up every day, that's intentional and not a new change.
Every time you replant your crops, naturally you will need to replant, but the above is the most likely explanation for needing to re-water after harvesting your pumpkins/beans when they still have some harvests left.

Now, if they become un-watered at different times (so not when you just missed a harvest by a day), that's strange and maybe a bug

[tall egret]

So I need to go back and pay attention to it and see if there's a pattern. Yes, I will still have harvests left on the pumpkins and beans. I harvest and have to re-water. But the water retention plants are ready for their single harvest and unwatered.
This is what I have currently, and all of the water retention plants were planted at the same time. But over the course of weeding and rewatering, I have several plants that aren't ready for harvest. I've had to weed and go back through re-watering.

[supple stone]

It's very easy to accidentally miss a weed or miss a growth tick.
Both of these situations will cause some crops to fall behind the others in terms of growth because of the weeds.
Unless you logged on every hour, took pics of the layout before and after collecting all the weeds/harvesting, unfortunately there's little way to prove what exactly is happening her I'm afraid

Out of curiosity, why this layout?

[thin tiger]

If i plant crops that have harvest boost bonus and i use harvest boost fertilizer as well do teh boosts stack?

[white pollen]

where do u get seeds from?

[floral talon]

if htey get bnoosted by other plants the fert does nothing

[unkempt granite]

You can get some basic ones from Zeki's general store (apple and blueberry seeds come from badruu) -- and I think he also gives you some other crop seeds as you level up! You'll also unlock seed makers to make your own seeds & star quality seeds!

[white pollen]

thank you!

[floral lotus]

What’s the best layout for a soil plot?

[floral talon]

What?

[clear kindle]

depends on the player and what they want from the gardening. are you interested in doing cooking parties? then you'll want to focus on the crops that the food you are cooking needs. if you're going for gold then you need to have access to your crafting licenses to get as many seeders down as you can (field full of bok choy to seed with harvest boost is the best money), are you more interested in everything gardens so you have access to all crops at all times in case of emergency? or are you looking more for a afk lazy layout because you prefer to go out in the game and do other tasks like mining or hunting? and of course it will depend on your gardening level to what would be the best to get you to a high level

[floral talon]

i am duhscape and i approve of this answer

[clear kindle]

i could also add to it that the best layout is the layout that you can reliably get processed.

[floral talon]

and that dont casue u a burnout

dont forget strategic stockpiles of the stuff u would normally prefer to not garden

[clear kindle]

wish they would let us buy peppers from badruu. any seed that can be bought from zeki, should be available as a crop from badruu's store

[brisk kraken]

Hello Palia friends 🙂

I just came back to the game after a long hiatus and I forgot why I was pickling tomatoes and potatoes. IIRC I was using them to feed the worm makers and to sell. Potatoes give the most profit when pickled, but what's the best food to put in the regular and glow worm makers?

Also, I jam apples for focus food and cooking along with Blueberries (also to sell them). The layout I have does not provide weed protection, so the above layout shown by ( @floral talon ) looks to be a winner. My layout has 5 apple trees, 4 blueberry bushes and uses tomatoes and potatoes along the perimeter.

I prefer being out in the world hunting and gathering. especialy in the new Elderwood area, so what does the community recommend for the best AFK/gold making garden layout?

[floral talon]

I prefer being out in the world hunting and gathering. <---
this part leaves only 2 options the layout i made for sylva or the 6 apple one
for stuff to worm i highly recommend all ur ranching stuff exces meats and mushrooms and if u still need more grill ur exces low value fish

[brisk kraken]

I've not started ranching yet...it's looks like quite the time sync 🙂 I do use Speedy Grow on the apples at the start until their first harvest. I will try your layouts, but where are the blueberries? I love me some blueberry pie 🙂

[floral talon]

i use 6 apple since i got literly infinite fertiliser thanks to ranching

[clear kindle]

i swapped two blue berries for beans on the other layout

[floral talon]

i didnt do ranching in weeks and i sitll got to muchj stuff left to fert (while using 7 wormers 24/7

[brisk kraken]

Thank you for these 🙂 I see that ranching is a good thing to do specifically for fertilizer, which I'm assuming includes Speedy grow?

[floral talon]

no speedy grow is bugged dont waste those precious medals on it unles u somehow got it to work but my medals are MINE

[clear kindle]

i was just about to ask if the speedy gro was fixed or not

[brisk kraken]

Ahhh, ok then. I'll save mine for now

[floral talon]

i mean to my view speedy grow only makes sense when ur more tryahrd and mostly when u wanna highscore xp gain

and then u still need to have to much medals

[brisk kraken]

Gardening is my highest XP atm...I'm like 140 in it. Everything else is around ilvl 40+

[floral talon]

nice mine is only hte low 164

i like how gardening is s uper zen unlike ranching which u can actually mess up

[brisk kraken]

So with the ranching addition and the no-need-to-fertilize (mostly) layouts, what's the best foods to seed and sell and which are best for jamming? I have max jammers and seeders, along with worm makers on my plot, of which I only have one. Is there a way to increase the amount of these machines on one's plot, or is that number still a set amount?

[floral talon]

plz ask one hting at a time ur overwhelming me otherwise

[brisk kraken]

I'll keep that in mind when I begin to ranch 🙂 My first priority is to fully explore Elderwood and just enjoy the game 🙂

[floral talon]

with ranching u can mess up by venerating the animals u need to breed with

[brisk kraken]

So sorry kind Ser

[brisk kraken]

Sounds like a lot of studying needed before I begin, which I will do. Thank you for your amazing help

[floral talon]

im keeping my rtacnh more empty so i can do some sciencing wiht it once i get to it

[brisk kraken]

FYI, I upgraded my storage so I can now hold 14k items, which I'm heading towards capping rapidly 😂

[floral talon]

ikr we need windir stat for storage at this point

[brisk kraken]

It does indeed, but I use it for my primary focus food. I sell the blueberry jam, along with the pickled potatoes and tomatoes. I also sell the majority of fertilizer I get from the worm makers, as I don't need the type it produces with my current layout, along with selling both types of worms

[cloud scroll]

Does anyone have the sheet that shows which crops are better preserved or seeded?

[floral talon]

can u jar it and is it not beans bokchoi potato jar it
the rest seed

[tall egret]

I apologize for being late in replying, I had an appointment to get to. Why this layout? It makes me the most money and focus food. I jar the pumpkins cabbage and potatoes and feed those to the regular wormies, the beans I can for focus food. I'll make about 400 beans and then go all pumpkins until I get below 100 cans and ramp up the beans again.

[supple stone]

It does not make the most money. Pumpkins are the very worst crop for profit

#🌱│gardening message has a bunch of different layouts linked, though if you want profit + Beans for food, the Bullseye (in the profit-link) can be modified to have up to 4 Beans easily

[tall egret]

hmmm? I get 171 gold per jar of pumpkin fed to the worms?

[supple stone]

#🌱│gardening message plus the message it links to for the modifications

[tall egret]

Ok I will go check these out. Thank you. I need mostly hands off as my busy season is coming up and may only be able to check in once or twice per day.

[supple stone]

But you get a max of 12 Pumpkins if using Harvest Boost, over 15 days. For 4 tiles. That is 2052g in 15 days
Let's compare that with another fairly bad crop, Blueberries. You get 36 Blueberries over 18 days with Harvest Boost, worth a total of 3168g if preserved.

If you want to compare it with the best crop for profit, you could have 4 Bok Choy growing on the space of 1 Pumpkin. Each Bok Choy crop gives up to 3 Bok Choy, each of which can seed to sell for 88g worth of seeds. So in 3 days of growth you make 1056g for the 4 Bok Choy. In 15 days that's 5280g.

[supple stone]

If that's the case, maybe the afk layouts linked in the post might be more suitable?

[tall egret]

oh, that's interesting!

Yes, I'll check them out!

[lavish pendant]

do u guys sell or plant your starred seeds?

[floral talon]

i prioritise planting unstarred at my level but hey i only get starred produce so using self made starred seeds is still cheaper hten buying seeds so mostly starred seeds

[limpid sierra]

hi, how many stacks of hydrate fert for 24hrs? i'm guessing 24 lol, it's per Palia day right?

[fallen notch]

How do I level gardening fast ?

[clear kindle]

first it depends on the crop. single tile crops need 1 fert per palian day, 2x2 crops will use 4 fert and apples will use 9 fert. second, the crops will only use the fert when you are online plus one when you log off as crops don't grow when you are offline. third you can stack fert up to 99 units so you don't have to worry about remembering to go back to fertilize

[clear kindle]

plant fast growing crops like bok choy, as they only take 3 hours to grow if you're online

[limpid sierra]

thanks Sylva...yes i get the per tile thing
ok, i thought the tile will use the fert when i'm asleep
i guess it can only favour me when i'm out and about in the world and can't water in time

[mortal forge]

Hi! I just don't understand these layout, so i planted one, but when I harvest the wheat, the apple tree will be there for more days, should i replant the wheat? Or how does this work?

[supple stone]

Yes, replant things as soon as you harvest them

[kindred agate]

Hi peopo is there a way to track flower bloom event? I'm tryna collect coco bushes

[mint sandal]

Coco bushes?

[floral talon]

Its at fixed times and only has a few spawn spots start on top of stable by the delailas farm then u can see 4/7 spots from there if not tgere stable to einars cave look south if not there move north still not there its in dragonshrine
And dont forget to serverhop to a friend to get multiple per hour

[kindred agate]

It's the orange one

[kindred agate]

Thank you very much! Cuz I can't go to all everytime

I'll take a pic if you don't mind?

[mint sandal]

The coastal bush? Or the flowering orange bush? Cause I'm pretty sure there's no coco bush in game

[kindred agate]

My game is in french💀🥥

[mint sandal]

Really? I played in French once when a was playing with a Swiss friend cause it made it easier to know the item names of the things she was talking about instead of looking everything up to figure out what the translations were and I definetely prefer playing in English haha. Even if French is my 1st language

[kindred agate]

I might just do that cuz I be asking for things in Palia chat, only to realize they have no idea what I'm talking about. So thank you again @floral talon 🥹

[floral talon]

your welcome

[errant thunder]

I am looking to make as many Pickled Tomatoes and Canned Beans as possible. I am struggling to find a good layout, has anyone seen one that would work? (I can weed and water regularly if required)

[floral talon]

duhscape to the rescue

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-P.HTBtTCrBtBtBtBt-BtCrBtBtPBtBtTBt-BtTP.HBtCrTBtBtBt-BtBtBtCrPTBtBtBt-BtCrBtCrR.YCrBtCrBt-BtBtBtTPCrBtBtBt-BtBtBtTCrBtP.HTBt-BtTBtBtPBtBtCrBt-BtBtBtBtCrTBtTP.H_GtL25Cr0.BtP16-CrP4-RS-TP5-PS4

@errant thunder

[drifting fable]

hey, i made crops trading sheet. Maybe someone will find useage of it

[clear kindle]

i'm assuming the highlighted is how the crop should be sold, yes? if it is, then i would recommend changing apples into preserve jars for jam, bok choy should go into seeds and cotton should only ever be for self use or sold as seeds. i know the numbers alone look like it would work out but there are other factors at work that make big differences.

apples for example take 10 crop to produce 1 seed, while jams are 1:1, which is fine if you has a massive surplus of apples and not enough jars to process it all and need the space, but 10 jams sell for 1440 gold vs the single seed that you would get from the same amount of crop. remember, your crafters will still run while offline.

a single bok choy seed is 22g for a starred crop, however you get 4 seeds from 1 bok choy which boosts the amount of gold up to 88g per crop used

cotton is self use or seed and will eventually be best to simple outright buy the fabric that you would need in the mid to late game. fabric takes 2 cotton to be made in the loom.

[supple stone]

I believe they're just using conditional formatting to show the highest number in each row
But as you've mentioned, it doesn't take into account how many crops are needed for each seed, so is a little misleading.
People do like having sortable lists though, so could be useful for people.

[olive pumice]

Hey, looking for a critique for my garden. I didn't need to have all crops, I'm late-game, usually use canned beans or apple preserves for focus, and wanted 100% weed block and water retain. Then got greedy and went for all harvest boost too. As lite on HB fertilizer as possible, prioritizing high value crops (I can apples, onions, corn, beans, tomatoes, berries, peppers, and sometimes pumpkin and cabbage. Then the rest is seeded). Does anyone see anything I could improve?

Oh, and somewhat easy to remember. So there's that

[sterile cloud]

Hey , I'm not sure if I should put this here or the cooking channel but I just unlocked Bean Tycoon 1 and 2 to make canned beans for the board, but I don't see the recipe in either the stove or campfire. I'm fairly new to the game, about 5 days in and I was wondering if I missed a cooking station needed for it or something else

[covert heron]

Beans are canned in the preserves jars - which are a type of crafting station you'd have to make.

[daring sage]

There is a cooking channel! #🍳│cooking-foraging 🙂

[manic meteor]

Yeah, when you get to gardening level 8 you will be able to purchase the recipe for the preserves jar from Barduu to make the canned beans
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Preserves_Jar

[tough kettle]

What are the best gold per hour crops to pickle/preserve?
I've experimented with a few but not sure what grants the best profit over time.

[supple stone]

You might like the image I have in this post #🌱│gardening message

[rigid cobalt]

For the flower blooms when a bunch of plants spawn on the map in the same area would it be possible to make it so the high quality watering cans can water more than one plant at a time?

[supple stone]

!feedback

[compact coral]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss issues with other players: #💬│palia-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[supple stone]

Devs don't read here, you'd need to use the feedback link above to suggest this to them

[rigid cobalt]

In the end that's what I did, though it would be nice if the devs actually gave responses to your feedback.

[supple stone]

Tell me about it. But, I get they're busy

[daring sage]

I imagine this would take up a lot of time to individually respond to each feedback submitted.

[supple stone]

It certainly would, but it would probably be outsourced away from the devs like the responses to bug reports are
Even just a reply to feedback saying that if is a popular request would be nice though.

[warm pulsar]

does anyone else randomly get 1 unstarred seed from wheat/rice that clogs the seed maker while afking?

[cedar cedar]

if you mean that it doesn’t continue making the item then you need to take out a stack from the machine, if there’s 3 spots and 2 are filled then when you try to have the machine make something it will stop as soon as the third spot is filled with one item so you need two spots empty so it can continue making the item, same for metal, leather/ cloth or the planks

[warm pulsar]

i havent had that issue with the other crafting machines. I wonder why it does that for seeds

[cedar cedar]

it will happen to each of them

[warm pulsar]

Yeah but im saying I personally have never had that issue lol

i just dont understand why theyd make it that way for seeds, or why the seed maker gave me a single unstarred seed

[cedar cedar]

even the preserve machine will have that happen

[warm pulsar]

once I take out the unstarred seed it typically works for me, where itll keep making seeds

until full i mean*

[wooden hawk]

Am i the only one with bugs when moving my plots ?

[cedar cedar]

until the last spot has one in it

[warm pulsar]

no i dont have that issue though lol

the issue is the random unstarred seed clogging it up for me

[warm pulsar]

what bug do you mean?

[wooden hawk]

I've been waiting for my plots to be free of any plants on 2 plots and when moving, saying me that there is something in the way.

But i had bugs of movements jsut some minutes ago, might be the game. Will try tomorrow evening.

[warm pulsar]

i think i had that issue before but its cus a fence post/item i put down got caught in the house somehow

[wooden hawk]

Will try to move all the thing around.

[warm pulsar]

also make sure theres no weird saplings/baby plants in the way if its a grassy area, ts annoys me sometimes lol

but if i had $1 for every time something has gotten stuck in something im trying to move or near a place i want something in id be rich

[brisk kraken]

Is this accurate? I'm not sure when I got this image, but it seems correct

[warm pulsar]

seems to be

[brisk kraken]

I thought so, but I've been away for a good year, so wanted to double check 🙂 Thanks!

[mint sandal]

It's missing the beans and pumpkins

[lavish pendant]

isthis for starred crops too? im new and trying to navigate what to sell as what when it comesto gardening lol

[clear kindle]

it looks accurate (star crops just earns more gold over non-star) beans i believe are still better seeded even with the nerf from a few patches ago (just not as good) and pumpkin is best preserved (though you shouldn't be growing pumpkins unless you absolutely need to as they are poop for gold)

[floral talon]

Im probs not gonna be able to send layouts the whole week cysrulean sylva hold down the fort for me k

[supple stone]

Nope, Blueberries and Corn are both best preserved not seeded.
And it is missing Pumpkins (Preserve) and beans (Seed)

[supple stone]

It's normal. 10% chance for them (and most of the other 4 seeds from 1 crop ones)to give a bonus unstarred seed for some extra profit to sell.

[warm pulsar]

ooh ok! Had no idea. TBH id almost rather it not be that way cus it was bothering me for a week lol 🤣

[supple stone]

Yeah, can be rather annoying sometimes haha

[warm pulsar]

Lowkey thought it was a bug so i figured id ask

[wheat siren]

If anyone could send me some ideas for my farm I would appreciate that so much. My farm has the layout of going 2 down 3 across. Each 3x3 is its own "farm" should you say.

[wooden hawk]

If it helps in the pinned message from this channel, you have one with a lot of guide and wiki : #🌱│gardening message

[supple stone]

When you say each is its own farm, are they physically separate?
Or are they all snapped together?
Makes a big difference with what buffs you can get.

But what are you actually looking for from your garden?

[prisma hill]

anyone have a good layout for best profit using the currently released crops? the layout i had the last time i was doing gardening was from a couple years ago so its super outdated. just looking for pure profit from selling crops, not processing them into seeds or other produce

[clear kindle]

processing crops is the best way to get gold from the gardening. if you're just selling raw crops, probably would be better to just go mining or fishing in all honesty. gardening is a passive income skill, the crafters run 24/7 even when you are offline while the crops only grow one stage when you are offline

[supple stone]

If you don't want to process them, take them to cooking parties, best way to get money out of the garden anyway.
But best crop to sell raw is Bok Choy by a large margin.
If you follow the link to profit oriented layouts here #🌱│gardening message then you'll see a bunch of layouts that are focused on profit through processing, but most of the crops that process well also tend to sell better raw as well. So they all include Bok Choy.

If you want best profit overall from selling raw crops, full Bok Choy, full Harvest Boost Fert and manually water/weed.

As Sylva says though, you are heavily restricting the profit you can get from the garden by selling raw and not processing.

[prisma hill]

thanks for that link, i found one i like! im not looking for huge profits or anything, just a low effort layout that i can run for fun and a little extra cash on the side so this is perfect!

[warm pulsar]

annoying glitch

[placid jewel]

Omg where am I supposed to get the seeds to plant

[clear kindle]

most seeds can be gotten from zeki's general store, apple seeds and blueberries seeds can be gotten from leveling up your gardening skill and some side quests. beans and pumpkins can be gotten either by finding beans in elderwood or buy buying the beans and pumpkins from badruu's cash register shop and putting them into the seeder to make your own seeds

[placid jewel]

Okayyyyyyy
Thank youuuu

[patent steeple]

does harvest boost fertilizer stack with crops that provide harvest boost?

[floral talon]

No

[brisk kraken]

Regarding the bottom choices, they do give you both options, and yes, I already jam blueberries 🙂

[supple stone]

The image is meant to be what is best for each crop, and your question was is it accurate. Just because it gives both as options, that doesn't make it accurate. Admittedly, the differences aren't huge. Blueberries are about 5% more profitable preserved than seeded. Corn is like 2%, but preserve bins also run for longer uninterrupted than seeders, which is a big advantage.

[dawn marsh]

I thought based on newer produce values that preserving bin was actually not a good option anymore for blueberries compared to seed maker, unless my math for my personal spreadsheet that I made was wrong? Using the wiki values (and checking it against current in-game values to make sure it was accurate) of raw produce and processed produce items as of this October, I calculated profit per crafter cycle and profit per hour for each crafter and each type of produce. While doing that I noticed that a few things had changed from what used to be commonly considered as the best processing options— but I am pretty bad at math so that is a possibility lol

[fallen notch]

What's the best crop to put into the seeder ?

[dawn marsh]

Hope it's okay to post this, but now I am curious if anyone would be willing to double check my math for me lol

[Deleted link until I update my spreadsheet]

Double checking my math for blueberries rn, I do think I did it correctly?? 😭 but I am still not confident in my math skills lol. But if I did in fact do it correctly, then that would mean seed maker has quite a bit more value than preserving bin—for both profit per one crafter cycle (a cycle being one batch of seeds or one preserve made, so in this case two blueberry seeds or one blueberry jam) and profit per hour

I've been using this since I made it in Oct so I hope I have not been wasting crops lol 😬

[supple stone]

Why profit per seed cycle? You're ignoring that it takes more than 1 crop for the seed
Blueberries - base starred sell price of 2 seeds (4 Blueberries worth) is 336g. Base sell price of 4 starred preserves is 352g
Apples - 1 seed is worth 1050, vs 10 Preserves 1440

#🌱│gardening message at the bottom of this post is my table (accounts for replanting costs and is just gold per tile per day)

[dawn marsh]

I did the value of two berries subtracted from the value of one seed for profit per seed, and for profit per cycle I did the value of four berries subtracted from the value of two seeds

[supple stone]

Yeah, but it gives the wrong impression

Look at the numbers I just showed

Also, regarding gold per hour...it's complicated
The highest total profit crops from processing tend to be poor profit per hour. But for most people, they will set their processors and forget about them
As the processors run overnight (and are one of the best crafters to do so), you often end up managing to process most if not all of your produce between play sessions.
So in order to truly work out profit per hour, it needs to account for that wasted crafter time where it's idle. This makes it VERY complicated, and ends up only being truly valid in the cases of players who haven't bought crafter slots yet, or who play (and garden) a LOT every day

[dawn marsh]

Yeah most people don't use profit per hour, I just added that for myself because I go through phases of playing basically all day ever day for a week or more, and during those phases my crafters will only get at best halfway through a stack before I log in again. Outside of those phases I just use profit per cycle

Profit per hour definitely assumes a grindy playstyle, whereas profit per cycle is clearly better for most people

[supple stone]

Also, this linked infographic is good if you're not doing replanting costs #🌱│gardening message

[dawn marsh]

I do see what you mean about profit per cycle though lol I guess I was still considering my specific case where like... my processors are often not getting through most items in a stack before I get on again and that I often am not selling stacks of 10-30 preserves at a time because of that (and because I keep a lot of certain preserves too), which is not really relevant for people with a more idle/afk playstyle or that sell all their crafter output most of the time, yeah

cuz when I do use preserving bins for some things I do keep a lot of it—probably about half of my apple jam and blueberry jam (which is not a lot to begin with because I keep almost all that I grow of both of those unprocessed for cooking parties), ALL of my canned beans (which is where basically all my beans go besides the beans I keep in stock for cooking parties), pretty much all of my cabbage kimchi and pickled tomatoes, etc. so I generally don't look at profit per 10-30 items for those things at all

which yeah, thinking about that now that would be misleading for other people who don't do that lol but I'm the only one really using this spreadsheet so it is mostly only relevant to my kind of playstyle

I also don't have multiple plants for those things either (other than the beans) because I grow a bit of everything so I can always have a bit of everything saved for cooking with. With only 9 garden plots that means I can only fit one apple tree, one blueberry bush, one spicy pepper, one pumpkin, etc. and still have the room I need for everything else set up in a way where my entire garden has both harvest boost and water retain, so I'm definitely generating less of those items then other player who are growing multiple of mostly a few items because of focusing on profit

I know a lot of people processing apples or blueberries for profit generally have multiple trees or bushes lol

so yeah, in the general case you are right actually, thank you for correcting that so I don't accidentally mislead other people with different playstyles

I'm going to add a column to my spreadsheet now for each crafter that does profit per full stack of processed items

[supple stone]

Blueberries aren't ever that great for profit tbh, near the bottom of the pack for profit per day per tile.
People who grow it to sell do so because it's a convenient crop

[dawn marsh]

Ah, didn't know that since I grow to hoard crops for cooking lol so I don't really keep up with the minmaxing profit crops. I've just mostly only seen people talk about growing the different bushes, apples, cotton, and potatoes for profit (in the past) and beans more recently as cheap processed focus food instead of losing gold to using more profitable ingredients to cook focus foods

I actually recently replaced my blueberry bush with a third bean plant because of using canned beans for my primary focus food now. Also because the amount of beans you need to keep in stock for burger cooking parties is SO MUCH MORE than the amount of blueberries you need to keep in stock for cake parties, so I should be good on blueberries for a while.

I like to keep enough crops for two rounds of the cooking parties I use those crops for, which is only 100 blueberries, but 300 beans 😭

almost decided to replace my peppers with beans too lol but those are used in too many different cooking recipes so I didn't

[supple stone]

Yeah, there's a lot of misinformation with what's profitable in Gardening sadly.
Apples are consistently thought to be one of the best earners due to a high ticket price and being unlocked last, but in reality it's very middle of the road for profit.
Its benefit is that it's super convenient, only needing replanting every 30 days.
Pumpkins are also commonly believed to be profitable due to the high ticket price, despite being the worst by a large margin.

In fact, all the most profitable crops are the single tile crops

[dawn marsh]

One of my friends asked me if I knew what some of the crops that would be good to focus on for profit in early game (new player) are, and I told them I'm not super profit focused so I could be wrong but that I'd seen people say potatoes and cotton were really good profit processed into seeds (going off what little old info I had retained about maximizing profit) so hopefully those don't actually suck lmao

I've not really bothered with doing the calculations for crop to seed input vs crop and processed crop output with consideration for grow time per plant and amount of crop given per harvest since it's not super relevant to me, other than doing a bit of it for apples a loooonnng time ago to see if all the people on reddit saying to mostly grow apples were actually correct or not. They were not, as you said, but so many people still keep saying it all the time that eventually I was just like "eh maybe my bad math skills just failed me once again". Although, it never really mattered to me anyway since I don't want to lose space for growing other crops to apple trees, regardless of if they're good profit or not.

[supple stone]

Bok Choy, Potatoes, Tomatoes, Rice, Wheat and Cotton are all decent

[supple stone]

Both links I have sent today go over the money per grow time. Both my compilation post with my chart and that reddit post linked

[dawn marsh]

Good to know. Potatoes, tomatoes, rice, wheat, and cotton make up most of my garden because I was pretty sure I remembered people saying those were good, plus a definitely unnecessary amount of corn and cabbage just to fill in more slots with harvest boost and water retain. I'll go check those links out and add them to my notes, thank you.

[supple stone]

One of the very best beginner layouts is the Bullseye imo (linked in the profit focused section of my compilation post). While you could get more profit (mainly from more Bok Choy or more fertiliser), it needs no fertiliser to function (though 4 HB fert in the corners is nice to have) plus is fully water/weed proof.
Considering early on you spend a lot of time exploring/questing/doing other stuff, I feel that is very useful.

[fallen notch]

What's the best early/mid game crop to put in seed maker ?

[tall egret]

Why am I weeding a 100% weed resistant layout

[supple stone]

I'm not sure how you expect anyone to answer that without the layout, and a pic of your garden

[supple stone]

Unless playing a lot or if you don't have a lot of spare crafters, then Bok Choy.

[tall egret]

Oh, never mind, I thought the bok choy provided weed resistance to it's neighboring bok choy. It doesn't.

[supple stone]

Correct. Nothing gives its buff to other copies of the same crop. You'd need an onion or carrot next to the Bok Choy for it to be weed proof

[normal finch]

ima put this here since it’s a plant?? just not a crop…how do i get A from turning into B or C?? i just want to keep A the mini size version of B😭

[clear kindle]

don't water it i believe

[thorny jacinth]

Once it grows from seedling to A just don't water it anymore and it will stay like that

[normal finch]

so as soon as i plant/place it, it’s just a small version of B. so i water it to look like mini of C then stop.

[normal finch]

i don’t water it after it looks like A. however the next day it grows into B without me having touched it after the very first water

[thorny jacinth]

It shouldn't do that
It might be glitched still
Before all the flower bushes shrunk down to small size no matter how much you watered it. I haven't tried since the update, but they might still be glitching
But the growth progress should be seedling 🌱 to lil bush and it should stay that way till you water it again

[normal finch]

yeah sounds glitched 🥲 i’ll just wait it out ig lol thank you!

[thorny jacinth]

If you can report the bug in game, more people that report the faster the fix

[rancid narwhal]

What’s the best thing to produce glow worms

[thorny jacinth]

There is a spreadsheet here
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Glow_Worm_Farm

Basically most output depends on the item's sale value. More expensive stuff like grilled fish, give more worms
Most people use low cost, easy access refillables like excess veggies, mushrooms, meat or excess resources from the farm

As Cysruleon Silverwind has said "If you're ranching, the produce the animals give are perfect for glow worm farms. They include the highest profit margins you can get for glow worm farms (+31g) for the 9g EW mushrooms.
Eggs, Milk, Staircase/Floatfish/Mountain Morel all give 40g in a glow worm farm (+25-31g profit)
Elder Clam Mushroom Meat gives 45g, unless starred, then 50g (+22g profit unstarred)
Honey gives 47g (+22g profit)
Brightshrooms are best wormed not glow wormed, (80g, +20g profit)"

If you can dump excess resources daily on a reliable schedule, that's a nice steady flow of worms. If maybe you know you're only gonna play once or twice a week, you'd probably be better off with more expensive items to get a higher count in a shorter time. A friend of mine dumps some of their excess from the cooking parties they attend. It's really all a matter of how your game play meshes with what resources you have at your finger tips

[rancid narwhal]

Thank you so much !!!!

[vital sphinx]

I would really like us to have a feature that automates the garden, from sowing, fertilizing, and replanting. It's so exhausting to do it over and over again.😩

[daring sage]

Convince some friends to come and do the sowing, weeding and watering for you hehe

[vital sphinx]

I could do that, yes, but every other game has automatic features, so it would be nice if Palia had that too.

[noble leaf]

From my sort of limited research, If you want to get as many worms as possible per process pass/hour I would recommend making grilled fish made from uncommon or rare fish, as the Grilled Fish actually combines two fishes into 1 dish instead of splitting it into 3 which most other cooking does, thus doubling the value.

In terms of crops (this is the gardening section), someone should correct me here, but I think stared canned pumpkin has the highest individual sell value for a simple conversion?

But for pure profit I would follow Jiyuka's advice :)

I mostly dump in a full stack of eggs as a placeholder, and if I have a more expensive item I swap them in, but the stack of eggs ensures it is always producing :)

[rancid narwhal]

Thanks so much!! :d

[dark bronze]

So just as a reminder, there are only so many weeds that can grow on a plot at once, so it’s possible to get an AFK going without needing weed prevention by having them grow on other crops?

[supple stone]

Kinda.
It's possible, but it also opens you up to a bug that only occurs when you have the maximum number of weeds.
This bug essentially reverts crop growth, randomly.
Doesn't affect everyone, but those it does affect tend to get rather annoyed by it.

Also, Bok Choy is generally a good crop to have in layouts as it is profitable, and it's a weed block crop

[floral talon]

Gj holding the fort
The bug has specific conditions for reverting cropgrowth

[supple stone]

Oh, wb Duh! Hope you had a good time wherever you were 🙂
Thought you'd be gone longer (thought you said a week...or has it already been a week?)

[floral talon]

Occasionally i get wifi to check up on u

[supple stone]

Well have a good time!

[dreamy ridge]

Kind People, I have a gardening question ☝🏻

So when you plant your things, mkay? You have crops that are harvestable multiple times, and others that are like... A one time thing such as onions and cabbage, etc...
Now, say I planted these one time crops near others that can be harvested multiple times, and harvested them- shall I replant them to keep having their benefits on the other crops?

Basically If I have a potato (water retaining) next to something else (apples let's say), should I replant potatoes again in the same spot(s) to keep on having the water retaining effect on the apple tree?

[true spruce]

yes, unless you're changing overall layout then just replant with the same thing

[supple stone]

You should. Otherwise, the apple tree would lose the water retaining effect (unless there were more than 3 water retaining crops around the apples to start with)
You wouldn't HAVE to replant potatoes specifically, you could plant one of the other water retaining crops instead. But if you want the other crops around it to also keep water retain, then it should be different to the other water retain crops around it...if that makes sense?

Say that potato is next to a tomato, if you replaced the potato with another tomato, neither tomato would have water retain (but everything else around both of them still would)
If you replaced the potato with a cabbage instead, no problem

[dreamy ridge]

Roger that. Thanks guys!!

[pseudo prawn]

Hi guys got a quick question for gardening, ive been looking at making some profit with it (currently lvl 7)

Was wondering with this setup ive found will I have to harvest all crops or does it want me to harvest a specific crop?

[clear kindle]

usually these kind of layouts are/were expected to be fully harvested and processed

[pseudo prawn]

@clear kindle thank you, looking for profit and not sure what's best to do tbh

[clear kindle]

is it safe to assume you don't have access to all of your crafting licenses at this point? if that's the case, probably either staying with this layout or one of the other beginner friendly layouts (those that have cotton in them to get you started with getting more star crops) would be ideal until you are at a higher level and you figure out your play style. once you have those down, you can probably look into other layouts that would fit your needs better

[pseudo prawn]

@clear kindle thank you for the help 😁

[supple stone]

Tbh, I didn't bother with using cotton on my alt, I just went straight for the bullseye layout.
Good profit, doesn't need fertiliser to function yet still has 100% water/weed buffs (100% harvest boost if you put the HB fert on the corners)
Strongly recommend getting more crafting licences as a priority though, personally

The bullseye layout is linked in the profit focused section here #🌱│gardening message

[wise canopy]

Thank you SO much for all these tips, I love you <3 I've downloaded everything and wrote down notes!

I have a few questions, maybe a bit trivial, but I didn't pay attention to some things, and I'm not sure about others.

1. Do you have to visit the plot within in-game 24 hours for the plants to advance to the next "stage," or is being logged in enough? I guess being offline doesn't work even though plants have a lot of Water Fertilizer.

2. I have 58 level in Gardening. I'm currently using Star Quality seeds and I'm not applying any Quality Buffs (crop/fertilizer) because, as far as I know, I've exceeded the 100% chance of getting Star Quality crops. Will I be able to use regular seeds and get Star Quality crops at level 100?

3. Does the same use (2% chance per skill level) apply to other skills, such as cooking and machines such as seed maker?

4. For crops to receive a given buff (e.g., Harvest Boost) from other plants, they must have it active on the day they're picked, right? What about Harvest Fertilizer? Is it enough to put it on the crops the day before they reach their final growth stage, or do I need to fertilize them every in-game day to increase the percentage chance that the Fertilizer will work?

[supple stone]

1. just log in
2. you can already get guaranteed star crops with unstarred seeds
3. no
4. the latter. Apply every day to ensure it gets the buff at harvest

[dawn marsh]

Designed a new everything (except cotton) garden layout for myself using some inspiration from other layouts here. 100% water retain and weed prevention, and just 20 harvest boost fertilizer to get 100% harvest boost, which is nothing when my worm bins are churning out hundreds of harvest boost fertilizer a day now lol

[wintry drift]

I just set up this layout for my self

Found it scrolling a reddit post nit my chart

[wintry drift]

How do you get them pumping out so much fert?? What are you feeding the worms?

I heard celebration cakes worked good for them but havent tested it yet

[dawn marsh]

Mostly mushrooms, eggs, and milk from ranching now. Before that I was doing mainly basic quality meat from hunting, grilled fish, and still a good amount of mushrooms from gathering while I run around hunting and fishing

I have eight glow worm farms going now, two for milk, two for eggs, three for mushrooms, and one to throw extra meat or grilled fish into

Gets me tons of glow worms to sell or turn into even more gold by fishing, and a few hundred fertilizer a day to sell. I only keep enough fertilizer to keep my garden topped up for ten days at a time.

maybe twenty days at a time if I'm feeling extra lazy about having to reapply fertilizer and I know I'm going to be online all day lol

Any extra foraged stuff—wild onion, ginger, garlic, etc— is good to throw in there as far as I know, increases the profit from those items a good amount. Except I believe brightshrooms do better in the regular worm farm, not the glow worm farm.

If you look at the Palia wiki there is a spreadsheet linked on the glow worm farm page that has profit outcomes for different items put in the farms and tells you which worm farm type works best for which items

[wintry drift]

Alr ty

[novel dome]

we need a sprinkler system so bad, i also need it for watering my flowers too

i need so many flowers for my plot, but im lowkey too lazy to keep re-planting and watering them all one by one, every day

[late pendant]

Yesss. That would be awesome. A quest from Badruu to unlock a sprinkler system for crops or something. 😄

[sweet cedar]

would you say this is a good starter layout for someone just trying to get started on efficient gardening??

i do still want to level up but also want to gain money from it heh

[sweet cedar]

so this was a layout recommended in a guide, is there anyway i can increase the total income from it without complicating it too much??

i also have access to one apple tree and possibly one or more blueberries, but dont know if they would boost it in any way

[sweet cedar]

but i also really want a even and pretty looking garden gaaaaah i give up for tonight lol

[clear kindle]

would change out the carrots for bok choy (seed them), you also may not need the cotton depending on your gardening level

[gentle spoke]

If I put two tomato plants next to each other will they keep themselves watered ?

[clear kindle]

no, crops don't give same crops buff. to get the water retention you'll need to place either a cabbage or potato next to it

[gentle spoke]

Okay thank you 🫶🏻

[remote needle]

Anyway besides planting to get fertilizer back out of the soil please?

[pseudo prawn]

Hi all, quick question, if you have 0 quality increase... does that mean you will never get started seeds if you didn't plant with them?

[clear kindle]

you will get star crops when you harvest occasionally early on as you level up, turn those into seeds and replant those to get more star crops

[pseudo prawn]

@clear kindle thank you, still trying to find the ideal layout for me... just not sure what to go with as I see so many different layouts haha. Any that you would recommend? I have just hit lvl 8 gardening. Saving up for more crafting slots for the preservation things

[clear kindle]

the layouts that i prefer are afk layouts that i only harvest 2 crops (apple and beans). it's not the best money maker but it's also because i prefer to do other things than having to run home to tend the garden every hour. i'll post them for future reference, but these aren't available to you yet

[pseudo prawn]

Thanks 😁 @clear kindle I'll have to have more of a look through and find something suitable for my level

[olive pumice]

If you just want that type of fertilizer out, putting a different kind on top of it well cause it to go back to ya. If you're wanting to de-fertilize completely, maybe the button used to unplant would work for that too? Not sure

[remote needle]

But wouldn't I lose the fertilizer that way?

[olive pumice]

Possibly. I know it costs you the plant, but never tried with fertilizer. If you want I can try and test it out? Might be a minute tho

[remote needle]

Yes, please thanks!

[olive pumice]

OK, gimmee a sec. For science 😄

OK, so it doesn't work for fertilizer

[remote needle]

Ok, thank you! So I'll have to wait to move my soil to another plot lol

[olive pumice]

Oh weird! I've never tried completely picking it up in inventory before. Didn't know it won't let you. That's..... dumb

[remote needle]

Yeah if it is tilled or have fertilizer in the soil it won't let you pick it up.

[olive pumice]

Why in the world would they do that?

Makes no sense

[olive pumice]

Sorry I couldn't help 🙁 But I learned stuff! So thank you 😄

How long does it take for it to un-till?

[dawn marsh]

I also like having even and pretty gardens, as you can tell lol. I kind of just accept that my garden will potentially be slightly less optimal than it could be in order to keep it even. If you're lower level you might be better off with a layout that uses more plants with quality up buffs like cotton, but since I'm well over level 25 (and level 38) I no longer need those.
There are lots of different profit focused garden layouts in here that you can look through, if that's your main concern. I have mine set up for decent profit, but also to give me at least one of everything (other than cotton obviously) so I have stuff for cooking with. If you don't need one of everything for cooking then something like the bullseye layout that is purely profit focused might be better.

Here is the link to the one I made if you want to play around with it: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-T.HPBkCRCBkWP-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-BkPT.HCRCPWBk-PRCbT.HBkOSSB-PBkPWCWBPBt-CbRPOBkT.HBtPmPm-SSBP.HBkCrT.HO.HT-BCbBtBkOBkPR.HP-BtPmPmCrBkP.HTO.HT.H_L64

[olive pumice]

I think the silence means that some have tried and were never heard from again...

[olive pumice]

I like this one! It may be the next one I try. Pretty happy with mine now, but yours is next when I change it up.

[true spruce]

I believe it's 48 hours real time

it's annoying

[supple wraith]

to add to 4) you do know you can stack fertilizer on a spot up to 99? (Or any other number you feel will last you until you replant. it stays there until it is used up by the plant(s).

[sweet cedar]

What do you mean with "seed them"? I'm lvl 9 gardening so definitely just starting to understand everything heh

[supple wraith]

produce Seeds from a crop via a Machine called Seeder.

[dawn marsh]

By level 9 you should have unlocked the seed collector, although you still have to buy the recipe from Badruu and craft it yourself

[thin tiger]

Anyone got a simple garden layout. I'm not looking to maximise profits but something in-between efficiency and simplicity.

I would rather do
ROW A
ROW B
ROW A
repeat or something like that. Some of these really complex gardens is too much effort for me personally so wondering if any others out there have found a nice balance? I have done

Wheat
Rice
Wheat

before but wondered what others do in this scenario

[supple stone]

If you just want 2 alternating rows, I'd say your best bet probably is rice + wheat or corn.
Harvest boost buff is just very strong.
Alternatively, tomatoes + potatoes for full water retain coverage is nice too

If Row A was rice-wheat-rice-wheat etc and row B was potato-tomato-potato etc, then it's a step up in complexity but you do get harvest boost and water retain on everything.
You could also have the row A be mostly rice (Rice, Wheat, Rice - X3) and it would still work, plus be a bit more profitable, but my guess is you'd prefer to just alternate them to make it easier.

[thin tiger]

i like the sound of that full water retain option. I could stack a ton of harvest boost fertiliser on it as well since i got tons from my worm farms. What is the seed generation overhead like with that? I did all bok choi for a while but found 8 seeders simply couldn't keep up with converting them fast enough which is the second phase problem

[supple stone]

Not as bad as Bok Choy. Better to preserve Tomatoes in general though.

[thin tiger]

if i go for a full water retain garden, do they advanced each stage as long as i am onlien or do i need to still go home each ingame day to get them to progress to the next stage? I know they don't progress offline sadly.

[supple stone]

Just need to log in to get the growth.
However, if weeds grow on any of them, those crops will not grow at the growth tick so you can get out of sync crops if you don't go back every hour you are online

[thin tiger]

Good point forgot about the weeds thank you for the help

[supple stone]

At least weeds are far quicker to pluck than crops are to water

[floral talon]

Downside is forgetting em makes stuff out of sync and trigger ocd

[supple stone]

Indeed

[round sorrel]

me with my forever out of sync crops 😭

one time i decided it was too much effort to pick all of the potatoes on the same day so i only picked five, then the next day only picked three, etc.

now i’m like, “oh actually i hate this” whenever i log on.

[supple stone]

Just leave all the potatoes for a few days so they become in sync again

[round sorrel]

see i know this, yet every time i log on, i immediately start gardening out of habit

[supple stone]

I can appreciate that haha

Well, good luck with the out of sync garden!

[formal pier]

soooo, the mixed hydrangea bushes.... how do I get more??? ive collected a few over time but idk how i got them? can you get them from the bloom? or bugs?

[supple wraith]

as far as I can remember they were twitch drops or gifts on special occasions. I don't think you can get more seeds from anywhere in the game atm. But they should be breedable (like dropping seeds at the end of their grow)

[meager ridge]

You only get them from a quest (Founders Keepers) - after that, it's just a matter of keeping up the growing, getting seeds from that, and planting those for further growing

[fallen notch]

Should I sell bok choy directly or should I send it and sell the seeds

[supple stone]

Best to seed it if you have the seeders to process it all in time

[solemn forge]

Quick Question . why when i put 3x fertilizer on my crops some remains and some disappear the other day. how does it work

[delicate ember]

Hii I was told to come here to ask, why aren’t pink/purple(?) hydrangeas available anymore? I have the blue and mixed but I’ve never gotten the pink ones before even though I see them around kilima village and after doing research, they used to be obtainable im pretty sure?

[delicate ember]

Personally, sometimes I double click and the ones I double clicked they remain the next day while only the single clicks get used up. Now I just stack the fertilisers until I don’t have any left and wait to see if any need to be redone (that’s just my experience though, I don’t know if that’s how it actually works)

[solemn forge]

I put like 3 per plot some stayed some doesnt i dunno if its bug or something or how does it works im a bit confused .

[delicate ember]

I don’t want to spread misinformation but I did some research and it could either be a bug, or it’s a thing where some plants get fertiliser bonuses from different plants meaning the fertiliser you applied onto them don’t get consumed (not sure though). Also saw some things about weeds messing up the growth cycle and fertiliser consumption.

[clear kindle]

keep in mind that if you are using fertilizer on a crop that is already buffed by the same boost the fert will not be used (i.e. if you have a tomato plant that is next to a rice plant and put harvest boost fert on the tomato it will use the crop boost before it will use the fertilizer)

[solemn forge]

Im quite confused sorry, i only plant tomato on each of plot. How does it work if i plant all tomota

[clear kindle]

then the fertilizer should stay, might be a bug if it's disappearing

[solemn forge]

I see2 thank you.

[rancid topaz]

Just watched a video posted 16 hrs ago that recommended a 9 plot garden be row of 9 potatoes in the middle, row of 9 tomatoes each side (18) and row of 3 apple trees each outer side (6). Can it really work so simply for good money with least work? Thank you

[clear kindle]

something like this?

if that's what they said, it's still a lot of work. you would need to put harvest boost on the apples (if not the whole layout as i don't know if they said to harvest the potatoes and tomatoes), and you would still have to weed and water the layout every hour

would rather recommend duhscape's 6 apple layout instead of whatever that video showed

still need a ton of harvest boost fertilizer on the apples, but at least this version is 100% water and weed protected

[rancid topaz]

Interesting to see it is not self-watering like they said. Tbh I hadn't thought of using 6 apple trees before? That 2nd layout sure looks good. Thank you

[supple stone]

Their layout sounds like it should be fully water retaining actually, if I'm understanding the description right.
Sounds to me like Apples on the outside, then middle soil plots are tomatoes - potatoes - tomatoes
That would give everything water retaining, but you miss out on harvest boost, unless you use harvest boost fertiliser on everything.
I'd also just go for Duh's 6 apple layout in this instance tbh

[supple stone]

If you only have tomatoes, then each in-game day, 1 fertiliser will be used to give the buff to the tomatoes.
They will require 1 fertiliser per in-game day - it will get used up at 6am Palian time each in-game day.
So if you put down 3 fertiliser, it should last 2-3 hours of playtime.

Is that any clearer?

[rancid topaz]

Oh, you're right. I hadn't noticed the image was wrong. Duh's does look better.

[static burrow]

Now that I'm at a level of gardening that all my veggies come out starred and I only make starred seeds (since I don't ever get unstarred veggies anymore), is there any reason to hold onto my unstarred seeds? Or is it fine to just sell them? Nvm I did the math and it makes more sense to just use them lol

[small sleet]

I keep mine in case someone requests them, as we cannot gift starred items

[static burrow]

ooh. That's a better idea. Thanks!

[solemn forge]

So it means bug because i placed 3 and it only took 1hour to disappear

[supple stone]

If so, report it

!support

[compact coral]

Here's a link to the Player Support: http://support.palia.com/

[sudden terrace]

I mades plots

[floral talon]

as a tip gowing ur own ctton is not really necesary unles u want to start with everything gardens at way lower levels

[keen basin]

okay so during the halloween event i needed a new plot layout and now i don't remember the old one.. so i was wondering what'd be the most me -friendly..
i need a repetitive pattern easy to replant, preferably weed and water maxed.. and most efficient for moneymaking with much time outside of the game.. :/

[floral talon]

We still have time for bulletin board right?

[last quail]

Yes

Usually bulletin lasts per update about 4 weeks

[floral talon]

Plz end next week xd

[last quail]

I still need these starred peppers and pantries though

[mint sandal]

It'll last until next update, cause then it'll be a new bulletin board quest

[sudden terrace]

why is that not neccessary?

[vapid halo]

my setup atm https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-CbCbBCbCbBBBCo-BCrBBCrBCoCrCr-BTTBTTCrBB-BBCoCrCrCrBBCr-AAAAAAAAA-CrBBCrCrCrCoBB-BBCrTTBTTB-CrCrCoBCrBBCrB-CoBBBCbCbBCbCb_GtL25Cr0.BtP16-CrP4-RS-TP5-PS4

[floral talon]

Buying fabric is cheap so u can grow something with a more usefull buff instead greatly simplyfying layouts
It will barely cost more

[sweet cedar]

obsessed with the look of this!!

my main issue with gardening is that i need it to be symmetrical and even but i also want money lmao

[supple stone]

Everything in Gardening can make some decent money.
It's only really if you just don't bother gardening that you lose out.
The main issue with truly symmetrical layouts is that it's harder to maintain good buff coverage without relying on fertiliser.

[floral talon]

When im back i can make yall personalised layouts again

[sweet cedar]

Yea that's why I settled on something that for now is visually pleasing to me rather than "perfect" in the sense of buffs and money

[molten sand]

what seeds to plant for leveling up fast? currently level 7

[floral talon]

they all same xp so stuf that grows fast so u get ur xp drop earlier probs

[vapid halo]

spam tomatoes ahs several grows in 1 life span and is rather fast

[supple stone]

Just so it's clear, this is false.
Tomatoes are just as good as every other crop.
All crops give the same amount of exp over time when you account for how many tiles they occupy and how many days they take to grow.
Tomatoes are nice in that they regrow so don't need replanting for 10 days

[floral talon]

They have the short intervals is probs what was ment

[hazy maple]

This is my current layout and I have no idea if it’s a good one or not

[hazy maple]

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-PTOCCoCOTP-TCbPBkCoOBkCCb-CPTOTTTTC-TPCBkCoOCPT-OTPCCoCPTCr-COPBkCoTPTC-CTPCCoCbPTO-CbCPTCoTPCO-TPOCrCoCCPT

[floral talon]

So u looking for feedback or? Kudos for making a unique one that works

[hazy maple]

Feedback I’m a new player and idk if that’s a good layout or not

[floral talon]

Low on harvestboost not 100% waterretain/weedblock

[heavy badger]

How do fertilisers work in this game? When they disappear does that mean the effect is gone and you need to use another of the same, so you should only use quality improvement the day before it grows?

Or do they stack anytime you place one.

Wondering bc I wanna stack the fast grow and a quality improvement one but don’t know if both will work together

[floral talon]

Can only have one fert per plant
U get most buffs from nearby plants

[heavy badger]

Ahhh fair, but do I need to double up on whichever fertiliser I’m using if it vanishes?

Got a full set of wheat at the moment for a cooking party in a few hours

[floral talon]

Yeay unles thr plant is done growing anyways

[heavy badger]

Perfect thank you! Saves me wasting so much fertiliser now because I didn’t know they couldn’t stack

[supple olive]

I've been playing 4 days and figured I'd try my hand at 2x2 crops of beans. This is what I got, any tips or tricks? I don't mind weeding, but considering the fertilizer...

[upper solstice]

@floral talon hey mate, what was the layout you recommended for money/cooking again?

[remote needle]

How do I get enough fertilizer to have 99 days worth in my whole 9 soil garden please? Thank you!

[supple stone]

If Harvest Boost - feed a load of stuff to glow worms, spam click the fertiliser on every tile
If Hydro Pro/Weed Block - just buy loads from Zeki (likely to need 2 trips) and again, spam click the fertiliser on every tile

Which fertiliser you want depends on the layout and the buff you want

[supple stone]

That's pretty solid tbh
Not having weedblock also allows you to work towards one of the accomplishments for pulling 1k weeds, so not the worst thing.
Also it's an extra 10g per weed for selling them, which can be nice early on.

It IS possible to squeeze in 11 Bean plants using a 4x2 soil layout (plus the 9th one tacked on the end) though, if you're going for max number of Beans (8 Beans crops should be enough though, I reckon)

[floral talon]

If i send one in here for u check channel history use filters
Otherwise idk but can always make a personalised one

[remote needle]

I am doing Harvest boost and I have 2 glow worm bins and a regular worm bin and I still can't make enough. And yes I spam click the fertilizer on every tile.

[upper solstice]

Ooooh I didn't know you could do that tytyty

[supple stone]

Well what are you using in the glow/worm farms?
If you need 81 Harvest Boost per tick, you likely want high value items for more fertiliser, or more glow/worm farms

[upper solstice]

Gonna use Ur everything layout and make a couple wee changes hehe

[floral talon]

Probs best of filtering this channel newest ur own messages
Then click on the timestamp and u should be close to one of my replies

[upper solstice]

Yeah I filtered for when you @ me hahaha using this one I think;

[floral talon]

How much fert hb do u need?_?
And for what layout

Hi cysrulean gues whos back

[supple stone]

Astrea might have a similar one with a little less fertiliser btw. One sec, let me get her compilation list

[supple stone]

Welcome back 🙂
Hope you had a good time

[floral talon]

Wasnt hers with 2 apples

[supple stone]

Her compilation list:
#🌱│gardening message

[supple stone]

Perhaps?

[floral talon]

U could also use one with like 1 2x2 qualityup/hb buff giving plant and alternate seed em in same spot

[floral talon]

I gained a new experience for sure

[supple stone]

In what way?

Good experience I hope?

[floral talon]

Seen the birthplace of hospitals and coins and more stuff like that

[upper solstice]

Wat

I mean I harvest boost everything even if it doesn't need it, tis easier for my brain

[floral talon]

Nvm the 2 apple one was tarinas

[floral talon]

I mean do u really need blueberrys/beans and pepper/pumpkin so often u need one of each
U can instead grow peppers till its done then plant a pumpkin in the same spot same logic for beans blueberrys

[upper solstice]

Looked at astreas and now am overwhelmed 😂😭

[floral talon]

Which one is astreas is better then duh one

[upper solstice]

Oh I was gonna swap pumpkins out for beans, planning on having a wee preserves/seeds factory with enough left over for cooking

Am sitting screenshottin everything and crying inside

[floral talon]

Whatever is fun for u go for it

[floral talon]

I mean i build an entire library for all my layouts xd

[upper solstice]

Impressive 😂 feel free to share more and watch me have a meltdown ahahahahah

[floral talon]

Yeay nah i decide which one is shown for a reason
U cant survive my weed seeded building block boxed in timetravel layout

[upper solstice]

That's fair 😂

[floral talon]

Its for ur own protection

[upper solstice]

Challenge accepted

[floral talon]

Ok but im like a genie be carefull what u wish for

[upper solstice]

Oh I remember don't u worry hahahahaha

[supple stone]

Uhh, sorry then...

[floral talon]

Let all the tears out

[upper solstice]

Oh jesus 😂😂😂

[upper solstice]

It's okay, am just mega indecisive
We gonna try and do another one myself and then throw it and @north dirge and watch them tear it apart hahahaha

[supple stone]

Good luck then 🙂

[floral talon]

U want astreasses layout till u know what u want

[floral talon]

Whos dune bugs

[upper solstice]

Know what I want? I want more 3x3 squares so I can plant like 10 of all the 1 square crops

But the Devs ain't playing ball with that one 😭

I gave up 😭 the Mrs is laughing at me going "and a water and a protect and a water and a corn"

[remote needle]

Right now I am growing Bok Choy and Potatoes. I have just been using stuff like meat, eggs and mushrooms in my worm bins.

[supple stone]

They're good items for profit, but if you need a lot of Harvest Boost fertiliser, grilled fish (caught with glow worms) might be a good idea, or else stuff from cooking parties

[remote needle]

I'm still trying to get this old worn out mind around the cooking parties lol

[floral talon]

U can do it cajun i believe in u

[remote needle]

I also like to use my glow worms for profit so maybe I can use my regular worms for the fish.

[floral talon]

Ul make more by fishing glowy fish

[remote needle]

That's what I meant.

[north dirge]

Huh?

[remote needle]

Does the worm bins go buy how much coin something is worth?

[upper solstice]

Oh my apologies friend I 100% @ you by accident there 😅

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.4_D-111-111-111_CR-BkTBtCPBtCrCrO-BtSSBtSSCTP-BkTCOPBkCBB-TPTCOCCrCrCr-AAAAAAAAA-TBBPBtBtBkBtBt-TPTCOPTPT-BkCrTCCrPBkCrT-OTBkBkPCOTP I think this one looks better than the last one I did 😭

@floral talon my guy what do u think 😂😭

[floral talon]

Its hb can be improved

[upper solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-learning-am-i-gif-16531775

Teach me sensi

[floral talon]

Maybe tomorrow

[nova vapor]

whats the best way to get hydrate pro fertilizer

[supple stone]

There is only 1 way to get it. You buy it from Zeki. 40g for 20 (so 2g each)

[gloomy kindle]

anyone have any ideas on why i can't place my soil here? there's nothing on the ground here. it even used to be here, then i moved it to another plot, and now i want to move it back. it just says there's something in the way. it works if i move it elsewhere outside of this fenced in area.

[median brook]

I am stumped again! I am trying to get the spirit fest outro quest from Najuma. I have finished the bulletin board and got all the rewards from it. I finished the two quests I had open with Najuma. But...she just won't give me the Outro quest. What am I missing?

oh nevermind I realized it finished and I can no longer get the pumpkin bobber which is the entire reason I did all the bulletin board requests in the first place. What a bummer. Oh well.

[floral talon]

that was a few bulletin boards ago

[crimson panther]

Hey guys i need a really good garden layout, lots of profit

[supple stone]

#🌱│gardening message is a post of mine with links to various layout compilations.

There is a profit layout compilation there, but if you want max profit, then it's simple - all Bok Choy, all Harvest Boost fertiliser, manually weed/water every day and seed all the crops.

However, for most people, a layout with 100% water/weed buffs is more appropriate. Still decent money and you don't need to worry about always being home every in-game day so much. The profit-focused layout compilation has these sorts of layouts. Still good profit. I often recommend the Bullseye layout mentioned there. Doesn't need fertiliser to work well, yet still has full coverage of 3 buffs (well, corners are actually impossible to have 3 buffs on without fertiliser, so as full as possible unless you use the 4 HB fert in the corners every day)

Also, I should mention - best way to get profit from gardening is by taking your produce to cooking parties. If that's not your thing, always try to process the crops (seed/preserve).
Seed Bok Choy, Potatoes, Rice, Wheat, Beans, Cotton and preserve the rest.

And finally, other skills do tend to be better for quick money making - cooking parties especially, or else hunting is also pretty lucrative (especially in parties), but any skill makes more money than Gardening. It's more of a side hustle.

Now, if you're looking for something more specific, you'll have to say, but otherwise, happy reading

[median brook]

I only planted what I needed so far but once the soil is cleared I am happy to use one of your layouts. What I am wondering is, how many Seed Makers and Craft Preservers should I have?

[dawn marsh]

Depends on what you're mainly growing.

Like I use a "semi-profit-focused" everything garden layout since I process like 2/3 of my crops to sell and keep the rest for cooking, so I tend to have an equal amount of each. I keep a couple extras of both in my storage, so if at any time I'm short on preserve crops from cooking parties or w/e and preserve jars are going unused then I will pick up a couple of them, and put down more seed collectors instead.

Even using my everything layouts I fairly regularly will end up swapping a couple of preserve jars for seed collectors since I still grow a lot of potatoes and bok choy as profit crops. I have three seed collectors just for potatoes, and three just for bok choy. If I am playing regularly and harvesting regularly then those crafters are never done processing by the time I have more harvested to restock them, usually only halfway through a stack at most after logging out for a while then coming back. Potatoes take about 42 hours for a full stack to get processed into seeds, and bok choy about 36 hours. Of course, that's assuming you are collecting seeds before all three output slots get filled, so that the seed collectors never stall and stop processing.

If you're going to be prioritizing crops for profit, definitely get more seed collectors. Seems the majority of the more profitable crops use the seed collectors (bok choy, potatoes, rice, wheat, beans) and only a couple the preserve jars (tomatoes, corn), so any profit layout will probably require you to prioritize seed collectors over preserve jars.

Although, when my seed collectors are really clogged up and I am drowning in potatoes and bok choy then I will just be like "ugh whatever" and slap down a couple of preserve jars to start throwing them in as well lol. They process significantly faster that way and you don't have to worry about crafter stalling, but you do take a bit of a loss processing them as preserves instead. Based on a table of profit per crop, per tile, per in-game day (accounting for replant costs) that Cy has posted somewhere in here though, they are still more profitable than almost every other crop when processed that way.

[vapid halo]

So the process time is that IRL or ingame days

[median brook]

Wow thank you for the explanation. I'm still a newbie, only level 9 gardening and I'm about to harvest the last few crops to open up all my soil's for an actual layout. I do want to plant for profit and I've been looking at several layouts, but what is going to be the best for me beats me. I'm online a lot but at the same time I don't want too high maintenance :3

[supple stone]

Irl time

But it takes into account the 180 Days of Harvest you have there and assumes you are playing 24/7 which is hardly likely to be the case

[supple stone]

Just look at one of the ones which are 100% water/weed/HB buffs then.
Honestly, if everything has HB, then you will likely make a bunch more profit than you've been making from just growing what you needed.

You might want at least one apple tree to start with, as apples are needed for quests and crafting bug lures
They're not the best for profit but are very convenient crops.
The profit focused layouts don't include them in general.
Are there any other crops you would want for cooking purposes?

[median brook]

What does HB stand for? And Would you recommend any layout with an apple tree with the rest made up for profits while still having water/weed covered? I haven't gotten far into cooking yet either which I will once I got a good layout going. Fishing and gardening are my favorite skills so far x)

[supple stone]

Harvest Boost

And one sec on the apple