#šŸŒ±ā”‚gardening

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merry sonnet
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jinalove giving u all my love and appreciation AHH THANK YOU

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merry sonnet
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man iā€™m gonna need a lot of jars and seed makersā€¦

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I think I have 8 running full time on my farm!

merry sonnet
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8 of each? šŸ‘€

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merry sonnet
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there goes my money to buy more crafting licenses chapaafire i think iā€™ll do a mini version of that for now but probably jar > seeds

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delicate iron
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I thought Bok Choi was best to jar not sell as seeds

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delicate iron
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im using this

merry sonnet
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# delicate iron I thought Bok Choi was best to jar not sell as seeds

I think I figured out why they have seeds not jarred.
Base Bok Choy jarred sells for 45 gold but produces only one jar per crop.
Seeds produce 4 for 1 crop at 15 gold, time that by 4 and you get 60 gold.

However counter point is that you can make 2 jars in the same time as it takes to make the 4 seeds and 2 jars = 90 gold.
So it kinda comes down to personal preference if you want that extra 30 gold or not, but these are base prices until I can get some starred going lol

delicate iron
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im only lvl 10 gardening, I started taking all my star crops and turning those into seeds, the star seeds give you you star crops, the star crops then produce star jars. Star jars sell for 67 each

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delicate iron
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35m for bok choy

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i've been reinvesting after every harvest and hunting in the down time, up to 5 seed makers and 9 preserving bins

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yeah it's an hour and 12 mins for bok choy seeds, and 36 mins for jarred, 2 jars is the same production time as the seeds

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I think I'm gonna edit the list to have bok choy as jarred, a bit more is still a bit more chapaahappy @merry sonnet i would do the same if you haven't chapaalove

merry sonnet
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thank you for the notice chapaalove chapaalove2 jinalove iā€™ll adjust accordingly!

delicate iron
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So there is no lovel cap ?

digital tapir
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I know some people that have a cooking level of over 2,000

delicate iron
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omg

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cooking? wow

burnt yarrow
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I know why their cooking is that high....

quaint pier
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ok im ready to learn how to make most gold worm farming

copper valley
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All I get now are starred cotton. What do yall do for fabric? Just sacrifrice the starred cotton for it or buy fabric from the store?

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Cause star cotton sells for 67 and i think wiki says fabric is bought for 190? So might as well just make my own fabric right? I wish starred gave extra fabric...

clear kindle
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seeing as how cotton isn't my main source of income and is only planted when i need the fabric to fill the loom that holds it, i just turn it into fabric

dusty kayak
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i buy the fabric lol

clear kindle
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i just do a harvest boosted cotton field and get all of the cotton/fabric that i would need to last a lifetime

dusty kayak
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if we could have just 1 more spoil plot id use it to create inventory

vernal bluff
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Thatā€™s why I have one separate soil plot to grow stuff that I need and the other 8 are 6 apples and 2 bloobschapaafire

copper valley
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What's your layout??

vernal bluff
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The one on top I use to grow veggies I need for cooking or grow bok choy, when I have everything

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Not the most profitable or low maintenance layout, but I like itchapaafire

pliant nymph
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im using this for cotton, bok choy and cabbage rn. i just use half of the cotton for more seeds and use all the rest for fabric

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copper valley
jolly compass
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Looking for tips. I've read a bit about gardening super layouts and I am mostly going for what's easy as well as a lucrative, so I have apple trees in the 4 corners and a checkerboard of star potatoes and cabbages. Just selling the veggies while hoarding the apples, mainly. Made some jam.

Does using apple jam in a worm farm make significantly more than simply selling the jam?

Idk what's the best, casual approach?

blazing ridge
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I do 7 apple trees. nothing else (wheat for boosts, I don't harvest them). it gives me apples for jam (selling) and apple pies (focus). it's a pretty casual build since I made all the star quality food already and don't need other crops. just water the apple trees, harvest/replant as needed

digital tapir
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Does anyone know
If a weed is on a plant, does it cancel its buff that it applies to the nearby crops?

tired grove
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Q: how many farm plots u can have max?

clear kindle
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9 currently

tired grove
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oh sad :<

merry sonnet
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since most crops have a shorter growing time than tomatoes do yall pick those and replant them before tomatoes stop producing?

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merry sonnet
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okay, thank you!

blazing ridge
digital tapir
pliant glade
blazing jay
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anyone got a super good layout for money?

blazing jay
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after going through the history i found this one to be the best

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however im planning to use this one due to its massive range in different crops

vernal bluff
analog portal
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What's the latest most profitable gardening layout right now?

dusty kayak
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That can greatly vary with many layouts having similar high output levels

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I just got lazy and started doing 6 apple trees harvest boosted with other crops and only replace harvest water the apple trees Derpmander

digital tapir
delicate iron
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lvl 11 gardening, but still a ways away from getting an apple seed šŸ˜¦

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So whats this im reading about people intentionally leaving weeds on their farm? Can someone explain that a bit more?

worthy agate
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Hello. Still new to this awesome game! Can you plz explain if you need to refertilize when ever the fertilizer disappears or just when you first plant the seeds?

delicate iron
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whenever you dont see the fertilizer on the plot

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you can fertilize the same spot up to 99 times, it doesn't stack, it just uses the next fertilizer saving you time from fertilizing daily. Some people will buy 99 fertilizers x 81 spots = 8019 fertilizers (water retention) so they can go a few weeks without having to add fertilizer or water to their plots

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I use glow worm farms to make harvest bonus fert. Sell worms, use the fert on my farm.

muujinnodders

digital tapir
clear kindle
hybrid bolt
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why do they allow us to plant Blueberry at lvl 8 or 9 but not able to cook it until lvl 10

fading mountain
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What crop grows the quickest?

quaint pier
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how do you get max apples while also having variety of crops as you need

quaint pier
dusty kayak
quaint pier
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thank you ā¤ļø

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what if i just want apples blueberries and bok choy and potatoes xD

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is that possible

analog portal
dusty kayak
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"best" will always be subjective

quaint pier
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you are awesome

left portal
# quaint pier is that possible

Complicated but very efficient layout you would need to get weeds to grow in places before planting the Bok Choy;

https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-Bk.HA.HA.HP.QA.HA.HCb.QA.HA.H-A.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.HT.QP.Q-Cb.WBkR.WA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-P.QB.HB.HT.QB.HB.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HB.HB.HP.QB.HB.HT.Q-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HR.WBkCb.W-T.QP.QA.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.H-A.HA.HCb.QA.HA.HT.QA.HA.HBk.H

Quality boost fertilizer indicates a crop where a weed can grow with no disadvantage but even better locations for weeds to grow are marked with Weedblock fertilizier (where a weed should grow, due to missing a water retain companion crop):

analog portal
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I haven't played in months. I would need a proper guide now haha.

quaint pier
magic wasp
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Is the growth speed boost working? I've seen some people say that it's not.

left portal
dusty kayak
magic wasp
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I was more so referring to the boost from crops

dusty kayak
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Ahhh crops specifically

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Yeah that i do not know thinkspin

worn blade
haughty hawk
wary finch
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speed boost just works in the growth phase, not in the multi-harvest phase. An apple tree can grow in 8 days instead of 12, but it will still take 6 days from harvest to harvest. This seems to be incorrect, please ignore.

worthy agate
wide marlin
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haii @dusty kayak

dusty kayak
wide marlin
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im lvl 12 in gardening tbh lol, I was big into mining and went hard then they nerfed the starstones and I take breaks from palia

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i just started playing agian last week

dusty kayak
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ok and you have apples?

wide marlin
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yea

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and seeds

dusty kayak
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its important to harvest boost and quality up the apples for yknow maximum good output

wide marlin
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you just harvest the apples right? nothing else

dusty kayak
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my current layout works better above level 25

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but let me see if i can edit it

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brb

dusty kayak
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so 1. use water fert if you don't want to water but you can just water the trees too, i just water the trees
2. you can leave the harvest and quality crops yes, they keep the effects

wide marlin
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ty ty šŸ˜®

dusty kayak
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oh and 3.

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leave weeds on only the boosting crops and you wont have to weed your trees anymore

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just keep picking the trees or use weedblock on trees until 9 spots have weeds

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then you're weed free

wide marlin
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how many worm farms and preserve jars do u have

dusty kayak
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i invested into max licenses of 30 so i have 12 jars and 8 worm farms and 1 glow worm farm
but i think without boosting apple tree growth speed you can work with 8 jars and maybe 6 worm farms

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i have more because the more you split up the stuff among the crafters the faster your output

wide marlin
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alright ty sm

dusty kayak
delicate iron
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8 worm and only 1 glow worm? why so many worm farms?

dusty kayak
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the sweet sweet cash

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splitting things across multiple is just faster

delicate iron
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what are you putting into the worm farms?

dusty kayak
delicate iron
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and then selling the worms and fert?

dusty kayak
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ye then i wake up to this

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delicate iron
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interesting

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all from apples?

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i dont ahve any apples yet.

dusty kayak
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ye jam

delicate iron
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been doing bok choy

dusty kayak
delicate iron
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only lvl 13 farm

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So the ultimate goal is selling worms and quality fertilizer?

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and you maximize this by using preserve apples

dusty kayak
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ye its just my preffered play style for money
i just like AFK money

delicate iron
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preserve apples gives best output? or doesnt matter the preserve?

dusty kayak
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chapaaspin doc

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but apple jam is good
another choice is pickled potatoes
or cake made with 3 apples

delicate iron
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@dusty kayakwhat's your current farm layout? and do you edit it at all or its been the same for a long time? what do you use for focus? The Jams?

dusty kayak
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i would never eat jams and when i see people who do i cringe LOL

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its just not enough focus for the gold loss to eat jams

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another good focus food is tomato soup, for similar reasons but less focus then petit fives, but works
I just found it not enough once i got 1000 focus bar

delicate iron
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gotcha

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i try to eat anything i can right now... at 750 focus

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been doing bok choy preserves for $

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up to 20 crafting slots, already unlocked the iron chest and last backpack slot. going to do 1 house upgrade for 8K then its focusing on getting to 30 crafting slots

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all my relationships are under 3, so its going to be a bitu before i can get apples.

dusty kayak
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you can get a villager to level 3 within 3 IRLdays if you tried chapaathumbsup /genuine

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try giving ||naio|| his star stone ||jasper||

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its a big relationship boost

delicate iron
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and of course... i just game him fertilizer before I read your comment, so gotta wait till reset now

dusty kayak
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šŸ”„ chapaafire

delicate iron
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does giving a villager their star stone, if its a starred stone, will that boost rep even more?

dusty kayak
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starred does not matter for gifts at all nah

delicate iron
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Assuming star stones are the best way to boost rep for all villagers?

dusty kayak
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that and their weekly wants, so doing all that is the fastest, and talking to the character can be done every IRL hour, which makes things much faster

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my friendship guide goes:
Day 1. Talking every IRL hour / every Palian day + level 1 weekly want
Day 2. Talking until level 2 + level 2 weekly want
Day 3. Starstone (or with Einar, a shiny pebble works) + talking until level 3 (continue to Day 4 if not there yet)

delicate iron
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the palian day resets for villagers at 12am ?

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or 6am when the crops grow

dusty kayak
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in my experience, 3am was the talking to them reset

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i stalked EInar to speed run him on an alt lol

delicate iron
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why was that? whats he offer?

dusty kayak
delicate iron
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just because?

dusty kayak
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i love him

stiff geode
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Idk if this is specific to switch or not. My wife is trying to add soil to an empty spot and running into an issue. Says somethings in the way when nothing is there.

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stiff geode
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Placing it in the over view or in 3rd person view has been the same. Red/something in the way.

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She is on the other side of her plot and still the same.

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pliant glade
stiff geode
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Thank you!

stiff geode
pliant glade
tardy palm
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Does anybody have a good farm layout for being only level 5?

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trying to figure this all out lol

dusty kayak
tardy palm
dusty kayak
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perfect

tardy palm
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thank you so much!

blazing ridge
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I don't even remember what I did at lower levels. I think I went for 30 of every crop in inventory and used that to make each recipe (rotate crops as needed) and now that I finished all food dishes I just lazy farm apples. still stocked up on 30 crop and 30 seeds, for future needs. dont think I ever worried about crop bonuses/boosts until after getting blue/apple

dusty kayak
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this is what i did and just kept continuing the pattern until i got all 9 soil

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and then when i got apples i did this

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and now im past level 100 gardening so i just do this

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and kept an inventory of other crops for cooking

flat jackal
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anyone need any blueberry or apple seeds? i have 2 spare apple seeds and about 20 blueberries

blazing ridge
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ooh. that gave me an idea. I don't like the way it would look, but putting the 9th soil as an apple tree at the bottom would give another boosted apple. I wouldn't enjoy the asymmetry tho

dusty kayak
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i prefer weedplot KoroneEvilLaugh

blazing ridge
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you harvest the wheat and rice? feels like a hassle when I do it. forever replanting crops I don't actually need

dusty kayak
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i dont

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i ignore them forever

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lol

blazing ridge
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same. it's where I store my weeds. don't think the 8 apples id get by changing is worth it. I'll stick to my 9x9 boring layout. until we get a new crop

flat jackal
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do you have a layout that incorporates blueberries as well ?

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with a weedplot in mind

dusty kayak
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my aesthetics

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flat jackal
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i put my weedplot into tree jail

blazing ridge
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that was my blue-apple layout

dusty kayak
blazing ridge
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yeah I ran that layout for a while. then I decided watering wasn't too big of a deal (except the lag) and went full wheat as boost crops

dusty kayak
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valid

flat jackal
dusty kayak
flat jackal
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ah iwas hoping for something with both blueberrys and apples

blazing ridge
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the 4 and 4 sen posted is quite good. if you only wanted to use 8 soil, hmm... I'd go wheat row, apple row, blue row, apple row, wheat row, blue row. gives 12 total wheat, 4 apple, 6 blue. and leaves a soil for weeds

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a 1 slot growth boost crop would be amazing for builds

flat jackal
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do fully grown crops still give their boost to surrounding crops?

dusty kayak
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Yes

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Even with weeds on em

flat jackal
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nice to know

dusty kayak
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Its why i ignore harvest boost crops now lolxd

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My lazy level 110 gardening self cannot be bothered anymore

quaint pier
delicate iron
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Does planting a starred seed vs a non star seed have an effect on the crop results?

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Also... I just finished Zeki's lvl 3 quest and got 2 apple tree seeds. Anyone have a layout for 2 apple tree seeds? Thinking of using the speedy grow fertilizer on them so I can get harvesting quickly to make more seeds so I can have 6 tree's on the replant. Think that's possible? I'm unsure of the yield on 2 trees.

pliant glade
delicate iron
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ok got it

pliant glade
delicate iron
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9

pliant glade
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do you have blueberries yet? you could use those for an automatic growth boost instead of fert if you wanted

delicate iron
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im still learning this plot planner tool,

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I do have blueberries

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2 seeds

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star quality

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and plenty of star quality of all the other seeds.

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Gardening is 14

pliant glade
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ah ok, you need to have 2 blueberry bushes next to an apple tree to get the growth boost, so they'd have to be shared between the two trees. hmm

delicate iron
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Hows this look?

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I'll use water retention fertilizer.

pliant glade
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i thought you wanted apple trees? that's just bok choy, wheat and rice

delicate iron
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theres 2 apple trees and 2 blueberry trees in there. Its just the layout for first harvest. then once I harvest and can make 6 apple tree seeds

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ok i see

delicate iron
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Can you plant a crop down and never water it and get it's boost? or does it need to be watered to get its boost?

wary finch
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with a lot of apple trees, there is to know, that if you play a lot, it might require all 30 crafting permits to actually make the best of all the apples. I have just 4 apple trees and 6 berry bushes, and it takes 8 jars for apples and 3 jars for berries and 4 glow worm farms to manage everything, if I don't play that much at all. If I would really play as I would want to, the harvest outcome would just be too much and I would have to sell a lot unprocessed (it is a lot of money, yes, but it feels extremely wasteful).

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I use 22 crafting slots in total just to manage the harvest outcome somewhat reasonable - but I cannot play a lot anymore.

wary finch
valid pumice
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Not sure if there is a need for this, but I made an alternative for those people with 9 plots, no apple trees, but also want blueberries. I guess it might be a bit niche though šŸ™‚

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warm dock
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can i just plant 9 apple trees lmao

wary finch
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ofc you can

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will it make you happy? most likely not, being rich is not as exciting as you think it would be.

warm dock
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HAHAHA i just got my apple seeds from zeki, so iā€™m just tryna farm a lot of apples atm

wary finch
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don't forget that it takes 10 apples for 1 apple seed.

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5 apple trees harvest boosted get you more apples than 9 trees not harvest boosted though. So it might be easy to just plant 9 trees, but if not harvest boosted, it's suboptimal.

stable ginkgo
dusty kayak
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Also regardless of making 30k to 40k every day im always under 100k due to buying stuff lol

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Rn im saving up to buy zeki coins after the update tomorrow though i want the new temple plush that is likely to be added even if it's unlikely lol

wary finch
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ups, I might be wrong about it.

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but this basically means, anytime I get just 16 apples instead of 24 with my fully plant-based harvest boost, that it is a bug, and the boost didn't work as expected.

slow flame
wary finch
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ok, seems I have to check that again, are you using plant-based speed boost or speedygro fertilizer?

slow flame
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plant based, I only use fert for the weekly
I'll try to check the peppers and bluebs too

wary finch
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my boosts are as well just plant based, I don't use fertilizers anymore.

slow flame
wary finch
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you are correct, I just harvested those trees, which I had harvested just 4 hours ago, so it actually works as well in the harvest-phase.

glass basalt
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this one looks decent for my lazy ass

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delicate iron
slow flame
flat jackal
drowsy birch
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weed block would just cut into profits, speedygro fert would be the only beneficial fert to add.

amber ledge
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I made a spreadsheet for myself to know what to just sell, jar or make seeds for max profit. Hope it helps someone else!

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Ooh I forgot cabbage!

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Better, with seed/ product ratio

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flat jackal
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good idea, like theo said could use speedygro fert instead :)

slow flame
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too tiring

slow flame
flat jackal
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one thing that bugs me about this is just one patch of blueberries will grow at a diff speed to the other 2

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thats just me though it looks good

slow flame
amber ledge
delicate iron
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@amber ledgeKeep in mind the time things take. ie, Although 4 Star Bok Choy seeds sell for 88g, it takes 1h 10m. In the same time, you can process (2) Star Bok Choy for a total of 134g

amber ledge
waxen rock
dusty kayak
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according to Reda's specific desires bcshappyhype

waxen rock
dusty kayak
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"best" with gardening is subjective, there is only what is "best" for your playstyle, not in general

analog portal
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I miss Oru and his gardening layouts haha.

analog portal
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This is what I was looking for. I miss Oru šŸ˜¦

valid plank
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I have a feeling those of us who burnt out will be back someday soon including Oru ^^

analog portal
delicate iron
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who's got the highest gardening level?

dusty kayak
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@lucid furnace 's mom

lucid furnace
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haha well we don't know that for sure chapaachuckle
At the beginning of March she was 192 ... and she does a lot of gardening chapaachuckle

fading mountain
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Anyone know the best layout when u dont have access to the apples or blueberries yet

dusty kayak
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Best is always subjective buuuuut i have some suggestions in my document

dusty kayak
fading mountain
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Thanku!

wet glen
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I did it @dusty kayak. I'm officially a novice farmer. Thanks fir letting me bother you a bunch a few weeks ago lol

dusty kayak
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Let's gooooo

wary finch
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what I'm excited about is finding flower seeds and planting them on alternative housing plots. Finally they can have something like a garden as well.

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the latter isn't related to you, @delicate iron

slow flame
# waxen rock Wait does this pattern specifically grow best?

As @dusty kayak said, it's quite specific. First you don't really need to grow all crops. You can choose to buy some that you don't grow when you need them or use a design with a few plots that can be changed when you need. Then it depends on what you want to do with your garden, if it's mostly for money, if you can take care of it every irl hour or not, some even use it mostly for decoration...

nimble lark
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are plots still limited to the amount you can have or can i have an unlimited amount yet? or are fruit trees able to grow on normal ground and not farm plots?

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i uninstalled months ago and haven't played bc i didn't like how the game was forcing me to play it so i am just curious on that front since i saw they're adding flowers finally

manic meteor
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Plots have a 3000 item placement limit currently it used to be 2000 iirc, and fruit trees/bushes are still on plots of soil and you can have up to 9 of those.

nimble lark
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ok ty - and sorry when i said "farm plots" i meant the soil lol thanks!

blazing jay
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just a question, why are weed plots so important, by prreventing more weeds to spread does it mean stuff doesnt stop growing?

copper valley
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I don't understand why some days I get 36 bluebs, some 27, and some 33 despite my crop layout never changing.

slow flame
copper valley
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yeah i got the 4 apple 4 blueb plot, dang

waxen rock
dense dome
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I did a comparison of what sells for most per fruit as either seed or preserved

Bok choy - seed
Carrot - pickle
Corn - pickle
Cabbage - seed or pickle
Onion - pickle
Potato - seed
Rice - seed
Spicy pepper - pickle
Tomato - pickle
Wheat - seed

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Didn't include the later game fruits as I didn't have access to them at the time.

wary finch
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most profit is relative anyway. If you play a lot and can care for your garden, even quite simple quickly growing crops can make you a lot of money. If your time is more on the casual side, it is better to go for preserving/seeding, because these machines work as well when you are offline (well, not always, one of my characters had a bug, where all these machines stopped working when the timer reached zero).

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it took me quite some time to figure out a good balance between online and offline hours and how many crafters I need to manage all tbis.

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tl;dr a whole lot, I have 24 crafters

blazing jay
distant rover
wary finch
limpid crow
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which vendor sells seeds again ? i need to get my gardening game up

harsh gorge
distant rover
limpid crow
harsh gorge
limpid crow
harsh gorge
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I pull all my ā­ļø crops into my preserve jars

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All but Wheat and Rice because they canā€™t go in there

wary finch
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my youngest character got an apple seed like this early on.

limpid crow
wary finch
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he is bending the law a little bit, but otherwise he is not the worst.

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and you know, the teaser is free - you can buy those coins from him as well for 10k each

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which I won't do, I'm not a gambler.

distant rover
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I wonder if they will let us move flowers and trees around without digging them up or chopping down? I want to be able to move and turn them like furniture.

delicate iron
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What happens if you have a tree planted across (2) 9x9's and you want to move them around in the layout editor on your plot (H). Will it uproot your tree?

distant rover
frail escarp
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yeah that's accurate

delicate iron
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ok

jagged bison
delicate iron
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ya, i'll wait, I just planted my first 5 starred apple seeds, took way too long to get them šŸ˜›

distant rover
jagged bison
frail escarp
delicate iron
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gardening exp, do you get more exp when harvesting a apple tree than you do say a corn?

manic meteor
delicate iron
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oh nice ok thanks

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So based on this definition "All crops give 4 exp per slot per day of growth. Regrowing crops give exp based on total grow time divided by number of harvests on each harvest. " It does not mater what you grow, you get the same exp (provided you harvest when the crop is ready).

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I was just curious if it would be quicker to level to 25 by planting all 3 day crops over and over again vs tree's.

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But you'll get to 25 at the same time regardless of what the crop is

jagged bison
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Seems like the easier way to phrase it would be then that you get 4 exp per 1/9 of a plot tended per day, if I understand it correctly?

delicate iron
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yes

green smelt
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at what level can i start pickling/jarring things? i heard itā€™s a good way to make coin fastchapaafire

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iā€™m so brokekitsuusweat

harsh gorge
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Gardening level 8 is when you get the blueprint from Badruu for the preserves jar

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I suggest making 4+

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And use the ā­ļø quality stuff

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Let 4 fill up (usually takes a few days) and you should get 10-20k

green smelt
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oh my gosh

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thank you!

harsh gorge
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No problem.

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Also go mine ALOT. If you donā€™t use much flint and stone, sell most of it. Keep like 50-100. Also sell all but 2/3 of the gemstones (citrine, quartz, etcā€¦). Unless you get a star quality. Save it and put it on display

brisk kayak
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Question. I just started making quality fert, and I used it on my crops but then it doesn't say it anymore. Am I not supposed to add the fertilizer when I plant?

harsh gorge
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No you are. If you see a pinkish glow on the square where you planted, you have fertilizer there. Itā€™s more noticeable at night

brisk kayak
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Well, I mean, you know how it shows "water retain" or "weed prevention" above the plants picture? When I first used the fertilizer, it said "quality" but the next day it was gone.

vernal bluff
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Every growing tick the plant eats the fertilizer, so u have to use it every day or stack more of them on one plant

brisk kayak
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So I have to remember to place the fertilizer on the last day. Lol which definitely won't happen. Oh well.

slow flame
jagged bison
brisk kayak
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Ok that's awesome, thx every1!!

hardy hare
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omg i didn't know it stacked!"!!!

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thank you so much

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i resorted to learning what each crop looked like the day before it harvested ha

round compass
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nah ah they didnt do that... If I have to water that like frequently Ima quit fr, my entire place is surrounded by trees

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slow flame
round compass
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alrighty, hoping they won't die if I dont water then, because I ain't doing that xD

raven sedge
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omg i haaaaate the soil under the trees !!!!

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it really f' up my entire vibe ! xD

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i want the grass back at the bottom šŸ˜¢ šŸ˜¢ šŸ˜¢

round compass
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same honestly

raven sedge
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can we report it ! ? we don't like it??? xd give me back my old trees plzzzz

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totally send them feedback about the soil hahaha i want them old trees with grass plz

round compass
nimble copper
raven sedge
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ok can someone check something for me ??? i had alot of pine cone seeds! ? and all my tree seeds are gone from inventory?????

dry moss
sly karma
raven sedge
candid cargo
viscid sedge
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I already sent this over to the feedback link, but thought I'd post here to see if anyone else has experienced this. I re-dug a garden plot after harvesting blueberries and when I went to fertilize, some of the spots appear to have over-fertilized as though the crop spot was connected to other spots (like how bushes take up 4 spaces and 1 fertilizer click actually takes 4 fertilizers for those crops). I didn't check the fertilizer count for what I had before starting so, I'm not sure if it pulled excess from my stash. But it probably did.

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waxen turtle
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do trees show up on all plots still as in if i put a tree on one plot, it shows up on another?

weak dome
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Our planted flowers can be moved using H, correct? Or are they stationary once planted?

raven sedge
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so i'm planning on making a lil "growing" garden first and then decorate xd

weak dome
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Excited to see what everyone comes up with. Ty!

distant rover
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Im so happy you can move flowers and trees!

barren oracle
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what time do the flowers grow? they donā€™t seem to grow at 6am šŸ¤”

wary finch
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did you water them?

proper dock
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Was having trouble seeing flowers at night but you can place them ontop of rugs to see them better!

wary finch
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strange your night is really dark, mine is somewhat bright

barren oracle
wary finch
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ah something else for newbies - there is a second exit from your plot in the north of your housing plot, it leads to bahari bay outskirts

barren oracle
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are everyone elseā€™s flowers growing at 6am? is my game bugged?

wary finch
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I have none yet, maybe they have their own timer

cobalt knoll
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Make sure to water them.

barren oracle
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are yours?

cobalt knoll
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I think it takes a full 24 hours in game. I watered mine once and was gone a good while catching bugs and when I came back it was grown.

barren oracle
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i shall wait ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦. šŸ’ƒ

harsh gorge
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Whatā€™s the timer for trees to grow

coral tiger
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From my findings: garden mantis gave me anemone flowers and kilima night moths gave me roses

abstract niche
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Has anyone checked if prices changed on crops/seeds/preserves? I am stuck at work still chapaafire

honest flax
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wish mods would pin the skill-specific guides in the skill-specific channel.. always forget i have to go general chat and scroll all the way to the bottom of the pins lol

barren oracle
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update: the flowers took a full 24 palia hours

distant rover
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If you dont water the trees do they stop growing? If you stop watering the flowers will they die? Im confused on the mechanics

wary finch
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I think trees are meant to stop growing, that you can have those sizes you want them to have

humble kettle
wary finch
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hm, will those, which are by default there then be moved on all plots?

distant rover
humble kettle
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Like the one you place and grow?

wary finch
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hm, maybe to get new seeds from them?

humble kettle
humble kettle
wary finch
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I got seeds from trees, which I have planted on my plot though, maybe the default ones don't give seeds.

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would be interesting to see, if we can just plant a forest and actually grow planks at home

granite linden
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Can you pick up and move trees

Edit: nevermind. Figured out that yes.. yes you can lol

delicate iron
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Wish we could grow mushrooms (particularly brighshrooms)

blazing ridge
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the amount of mushrooms I'd have would for sure be a stack overload and crash my switch

fickle birch
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was there any mention of how to get a tree to settle into a certain size on your plot, without having the water meter showing forever, or are we stuck with that?

harsh gorge
fickle birch
grand cedar
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I think if you keep watering the flowers they give you seeds

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After about the 3rd time watering them I think I no longer had the option to water and it said collect seeds

barren oracle
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started my list ā€¦ if anyone has anything to add lmk

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abstract niche
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I finally got all my gardening info together

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harsh gorge
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Brush tail dragonfly drops Chappatailā€¦ I think itā€™s called

abstract niche
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Tired have having 4-5 tabs open

harsh gorge
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@barren oracle

abstract niche
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Does anyone have data on crop yield per plant? with and without buffs. Guess I need Harvest time with the Growth boost assuming it starts working consistently.

mystic karma
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Garden Mantis drops Anemone Flowers

summer prism
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now i would like to have rainy weather

mystic trail
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loving these new flowers!

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cobalt knoll
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Anyone found the pink/mixed hydrangea or Cottonball Flower seeds?

mystic trail
sonic trout
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HEADS UP

Don't put both your ungrown and fully grown flowers in storage, you won't be able to pull one of them out

barren oracle
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i wonder if putting one or the other in safe storage would be a temporary fix until they address this (?)

timber crest
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Does anyone know how to remove a crop that is accidentally planted? I am on PC.

neat vortex
timber crest
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Okay! Thank you so much.

twin oasis
twin oasis
nimble copper
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i'll go catch some bugs and edit my reply to be mroe useful chapaapeek

distant rover
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I still havent seen pink and multi hydrangeas and the cottonball flower

blazing jay
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unforunately its a known bug in the status thread :(

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those 3 only

distant rover
blazing jay
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all good! hydrangeas are my favourite so i understand to desire to grab them

eternal flicker
dull wasp
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Where do I catch a duskwing butterfly?

harsh gorge
dull wasp
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Thx

harsh gorge
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Definitely hunt them after 6am/sunrise. They stand out beautifully against the bright colors in the daylight

blazing jay
# barren oracle started my list ā€¦ if anyone has anything to add lmk

gardenia - blue butterfly (day time, everywhere)
tulip - garden leafhopper (Kilima Fields)
tiger lily - proudhorned stag bettle ( 10% breaking stone/copper ore in kilima)
forsythia - spotted stinkbug (Bahari Fields, Bahari Forest, Daiya Farm, Dragon Shrine, Kilima Fields)
roses - night moth (evening + night time, everywhere)
grimalkintail - common field cricket (Kilima fields, Bahari Fields)
Anemone flower - Garden Mantis (Kilima lake)
Chapaatail - Brushtail Dragonfly (kilma lake, bahari rivers and ponds)
Lavender - Garden Millipede (Kilima fields, 5% picking up sundrop lilies and garlic in Kilima Fields)
Blue Hydrangea - Duskwing Butterfly (dusk + day time, Dragon Shrine)

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thought i'd add in locations because i didnt have much to do since i cant play atm

trail marten
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these flowers aren't temporary are they?

signal sierra
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Save it and forget it

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velvet nacelle
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I did get seeds the first time each flower finished blooming, but I noticed when I moved the new ones to a different plot, they were full grown and no more seeds. Anyone else have this happen?

honest flax
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does anyone have the link to the gardening/fertilizer excel sheet? i guess it was removed from gen chats pins šŸ’€ ironically just posted about how i wish it was pinned here anyway a few hours ago..

dire sky
blazing jay
dusty kayak
honest flax
velvet nacelle
dire sky
blazing ridge
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peak apple layout (imo) for anyone finding themselves in need of a lot of apples post update

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velvet nacelle
normal moat
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Sorry if this question doesn't belong in this thread, but has anyone worked out if the trees that were planted on our plots prior to the update grow any bigger with watering? I know new trees planted will go through 4 growth stages, but trees planted previously show the water meter; so does this mean they will get to the size of the original trees on the plot prior to us 'unknowing' people chopped them down?

dusty kayak
honest flax
ebon trench
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How many times do you have to water trees for it to grow to the next stage?

true saffron
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A butterfly dropped a gardenia for me but i can't seem to figure out where to plant it. does anybody know how i can do so?

vernal bluff
clear kindle
true saffron
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there's no arrow or anything indicating i can place it

junior zealot
clear kindle
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you should just be able to have it in your inventory, highlight it and place it. if not, it might be a bug

slow flame
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Am I the only person a bit sad that they did not give us sunflowers? I was really hoping they would be one of the flowers.

wary finch
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hm, sunflowers could eventually be a new crop one day, to be made into cooking oil maybe

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might be worth a suggestion

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olives would be nice as well, even irl it takes about 20 years until they really get somewhat profitable.

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and it really takes a lot to be profitable as well, decent grove is like 24,000 trees, price about 2 million USD in the middle of nowhere.

normal moat
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Does anyone know if the flowers will add to the current item limit or do they have their own plot limit?

velvet nacelle
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Has anyone figured out the timers on the flowers yet? The farming plots reset at 6AM game time but I watered my flowers at 5AM and at 6AM they were still not ready for more water, while the trees were (first and second watering of the day)

sonic charm
wary finch
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hm, would be good to know what those limits are, same with trees, before I'm going to plant a forest on my experimental plot.

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My idea is to plant the forest so, that I have anytime some trees to harvest and replant for easy access to planks (basically like growing planks).

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I have around 160 seeds, so it would be really good to know, if I can plant a big or a rather small forest.

quaint knot
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I am trying to use the hoe on a crop to remove it and it is not removing it. is this a bug or do I need to use the hoe differently some how? currently I am hoeing the square just like it needed to be hoed prior to planting.

slow flame
quaint knot
normal moat
sonic charm
faint briar
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{Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but just in case}

I just wanted to give a "Tiny" bit of information to anyone looking at this a feeling "this seems really daunting" majicare

All the Flowers that I've gathered so far have been from Common & uncommon insects majiyes šŸŖ„

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blazing jay
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Specific ones drop specific flowers

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gardenia - blue butterfly (day time, everywhere)
tulip - garden leafhopper (Kilima Fields)
tiger lily - proudhorned stag bettle ( 10% breaking stone/copper ore in kilima)
forsythia - spotted stinkbug (Bahari Fields, Bahari Forest, Daiya Farm, Dragon Shrine, Kilima Fields)
roses - night moth (evening + night time, everywhere)
grimalkintail - common field cricket (Kilima fields, Bahari Fields)
Anemone flower - Garden Mantis (Kilima lake)
Chapaatail - Brushtail Dragonfly (kilma lake, bahari rivers and ponds)
Lavender - Garden Millipede (Kilima fields, 5% picking up sundrop lilies and garlic in Kilima Fields)
Blue Hydrangea - Duskwing Butterfly (dusk + day time, Dragon Shrine)

blazing jay
polar loom
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I had trees planted before the update - is this their max size? The watering bar is still showing up and i've watered them but aren't growing bigger. Does the water bar just not go away? Or has anyone grown the pre-update trees anymore than before?

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polar loom
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I have sooooooo many trees andthey're by my garden so they end up watered anyways haha. Thank you for the response! @narrow widget

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distant rover
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So plants count as items on your Plot? I thought they didn't. I added flowers and now I'm capped. I tried to add furniture and I'm still capped. šŸ˜­

limpid zinc
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It feels like I cannot plant crop seeds in my garden as quickly as I used to.

Am I the only one that feels this way?

polar loom
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Yes, moving around with the seeds is slow and doesnt seem like I can reach as far with them

wary finch
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I watered a juniper tree and it has grown into a real monster, dwarfs all the other trees on the plot.

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it was one, which I planted before the patch.

polar loom
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When fully grown - does it have the watering bar pop up still?

wary finch
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no

polar loom
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Thank you for sharrrring haha im so happy for that.

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I have lots from before patch and wanted to know if im watering them for no reason haha

wary finch
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it took like 3 or 4 times to be fully grown from the pre-patch state.

harsh gorge
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@wary finch this makes me very happy to hear! I have some trees I wanna grow that i planted prior to the update

wary finch
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I just tried this on a juniper tree, didn't check others yet.

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it is more or less the background of my garden, but it is much larger than I expected.

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I want to plant a whole forest on my experimental plot, see if I can get it to grow planks, planting, growing and chopping down, selectively,that the forest feel isn't lost.

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it looks like the rate of getting a seed from chopping it down is equal to those outside the plot.

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ah something else, that juniper tree needed water exactly at 6am, different from how it is with flowers.

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this is with my first character, I had chopped down nearly all of the default trees and bushes, now I need to fix this by planting trees an leave them in different stages.

harsh gorge
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I chopped down quite a few of the trees when I moved onto my plot. I did keep some but I have since replanted more

wary finch
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well, the water popup on that huge juniper tree just popped up again, not sure what that is for, for now I am watering it.

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with character 2, 3 and 4 I was very careful with chopping down default bushes, trees and rocks on my plot. The problem with chopping them down is, that they will be gone on all of your housing plots, which you might buy later on.

harsh gorge
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Yeah. I was okay with the rocks gone. And finding out about tree seeds and now that we can grow them to size

manic meteor
wary finch
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yeah, made the same experience with fertilizers - I would normally not need any, but my first character was too careless and now I have to grow some star seeds from scratch -sigh.

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not played her for like 2 months, her houses are nice, but her garden was a mess, took me 8 hrs to restructure it and setup a profitable business again.

rancid galleon
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hi guys, what is the best garden layout for profit? i tried using the website but it only got me a score of 76.51% šŸŒ±

wary finch
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there is not really a best garden layout as a meta, there are just garden layouts well adapted to your playstyle, needs and time investment.

rancid galleon
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oooo okay, thank you! šŸ¤

wary finch
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let's say you have a garden layout which would provide 2 million gold in 360 days (360 rl hours), and you play just 15hrs per rl week, then your income per week is just about 83k, this won't get you far and progress would feel extremely slow. In that case you are likely better off by doing something less demanding with faster growing crops, even it is less money in total, but it gets you somewhere, the other takes ages and would require a huge investment to really make use of it.

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the infrastructure of a high profit garden layout is quite expensive, and without it, you won't achieve, what the planner says you will.

velvet nacelle
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Anyone else water a pine tree they already had to max, only to have it disappear on the next reset?

wary finch
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hm, my huge juniper tree demanded watering again, I will see if it is still there, gping in soon.

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it is still there, but the water pop up is there again.

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I won't water it again.

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that tree is extremely huge

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that is one juniper tree,not several

rancid galleon
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what are the yellow flowers called? I forgot to check before planting and now idk which one to tick off my list šŸ˜‚

twin oasis
twin oasis
polar loom
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Haha I have a pathway of solid trees around my house to the back exit, so im excited to see them WUMBO size haha

wary finch
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hm, hopefully not that big that we cant chop it down anymore

velvet nacelle
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I just watered it the last time and I will post what happens

wary finch
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any bigger and that juniper tree will interfere with my garden

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might be that mine isn't stopping, because it is a pre-patch tree, which I planted a long time ago.

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I have not many juniper seeds left, otherwise I would chop it down, I can hardly see my windmill anymore.

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ofc I could go and deforest southern bahari bay lol

velvet nacelle
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Same with my tree. The rest are the old trees that I have had for months. WoW. That is almost as big as the green frog by the farm.

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And yes you can move them after they finish growing

oblique jungle
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Whatā€™s the grow cycle time for trees?

fast acorn
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When you don't want a tree to grow anymore do you just stop watering it? It really bothers me to see the empty line very time I get close to it. >-<

scarlet kestrel
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Is it necessary to always water the flowers? Will not watering cause something bad to happen to them or can I just not water and not worry about it? frogbertthink

slow flame
velvet nacelle
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Any update on the 3 flowers that didnt have bugs associated with them?

sharp coyote
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I'm so excited about forsythia Idk if I've ever seen it another cozy game like this

rose loom
blazing ridge
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I like that you really only need 1 of each flower, since they effectively self replicate (albeit slowly)

wary finch
harsh gorge
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Oak trees are Kilima or Bahari?

somber kite
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Anyone else unable to examine their garden plots? I get the popup like usual when in the garden, but it doesn't do anything. Controller and keyboard both no longer work. So I have no idea what boosts/fertilizers are currently active.

rose loom
honest flax
tender tangle
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How do you get bush seeds? I only got one from the quest.

royal mountain
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HI! i got the quest gardening 101 and it says to place the gardening plots down but wasnt given any? is there something im missing by chance?

tender tangle
royal mountain
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it says i cant access his shop D:

tender tangle
royal mountain
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omg thank you i didnt know there was a whole edit plot mode i was just expecting it in my hot bar and place it down tysm

brisk kayak
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What do you all think? All but 1 plant has quality boost, and harvest boost on a lot. I don't mind the water and weed. I stuck with the veggies and fruits that sell the highest. But any harvest plant can interchange with another, and any water retain can switch with another water. Etc. If you find yourself needing more of one item. Hope this helps the way it has me. This was a headache! Lol

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brisk kayak
next valve
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I wanted to share my layout 100% water retain and weed prevention 1.4k a day with blueberries, apples, and peppers!

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tardy moon
fossil birch
left portal
# rancid galleon hi guys, what is the best garden layout for profit? i tried using the website bu...

I don't know if you're still looking but I have some examples for you:
(Level 1) 9x9 layout, with new crops: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-P.HTOCWROCrCb-CCbTCrWRTBkC-BkCP.HCrWCbPRO-TRCPWOBkCrCb-WRWPTCWRW-CbCrBkOWCbBkRT-ORPCbWCrP.HCBk-COTRWCrTCbBk-CbCrBkRWCOCbP.H

(Level 6) This elongated layout looks strange, but itā€™s highly optimized. One of the soil will be ā€˜offsetā€™, not aligned, in order to benefit the crops due to the even size of 2x2 going over a 3x3 plots space availability: (Use Weedblock fertilizer on everything, to make it easy to automate) https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-11111-11111_CROPS-TSpSpPSpSpSpSpSp-TSpSpPSpSpSpTSp-TSpSpPSpSpSpTSp-TSpSpPSpSpSpTSp-NNNNNNSpSpSp-SpSpSpTSpSpPSpSp-SpPSpTSpSpPSpSp-SpPSpTSpSpPSpSp-SpPSpTSpSpPSpSp-SpSpSpTPTNNN

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This final one is special, it requires certain weeds to grow and stay there to be very very nice. Step 1) Get weeds to grow on 2 of Harvest Boosting crop (Rice) locations in the plot layout below. If you get more than 2 weeds on Rice you have a choice either a) leave them there and you will instead collect more Water Retain crops or, b) keep 2 but remove the extra weeds and youā€™ll collect more Harvest boost crops. Also get at least 2 weeds nearby on Water retain (Napa Cabbage) crop positions - there are 8 total weed locations in this step and in my example we go for more Harvest boost crops so we will keep 6 of them permanently: https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-RNNNNNCbNN-NNNNNNNNN-CbNRNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNNRNCb-NNNNNNNNN-NNCbNNNNNR
Step 2)
It doesnā€™t matter which corners receive the weeds, as long as they are diagonal from each other. So in my example we put them in the top right and bottom left. If the weed grew in a non-diagonal, simply rotate the crop and move it to the correct locations when the Apple tree fades. In this step, get the remaining 3 weeds to grow on any of the Water Retain crop marked positions. Corn is marked as a crop we have changed from Rice, with no weed, because we want to collect it in future.
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-Cr.HNNNNNCb.QNN-NNNNNNNT.QP.Q-Cb.WNR.WNNNNNN-P.QNNT.QNNNNN-NNNNNNNNN-NNNNNP.QNNT.Q-NNNNNNR.WNCb.W-T.QP.QNNNNNNN-NNCb.QNNNNNCr.H

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Step 3) The final layout: Cotton is a placeholder for any type of crop (it doesnā€™t matter what boost). Water retain fertilizer is to show that crop must be one of the three water retain crops and it shouldnt get a weed due to being adjacent to harvest companion crop (corn used as indicator, but can be any harvest boosting crop). Quality boost fertilizer indicates a crop where a weed can grow, freely, with no disadvantage (due to not being adjacent to harvest boost compaion). Weedblock fertilizier indicates where a weed should grow, due to missing a companion crop:
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-Cr.HA.HA.HP.HpA.HA.HCb.QA.HA.H-A.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.HT.QP.Q-Cb.WCoR.WA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-P.QB.HB.HT.QB.HB.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.H-A.HA.HA.HB.HB.HP.QB.HB.HT.Q-A.HA.HA.HA.HA.HA.HR.WCoCb.W-T.QP.QA.HB.HB.HA.HB.HB.HA.H-A.HA.HCb.QA.HA.HT.HpA.HA.HCr.H

slow flame
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After a lot of watering the trees stop asking for water and give a seed. Exactly like flowers, just much more work.

left portal
left portal
slow flame
rancid galleon
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Omg Iā€™ve been trying for 2 irl days to catch a duskwing butterfly for the seeds and I finally caught one and it didnā€™t drop šŸ˜­ any ideas how to catch them?

night junco
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just buy the seed from auni's guild shop. much easier .

rancid galleon
wary finch
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btw the new tree system is really cool, because it allows for forestry. When you keep watering mature trees for a couple of days more, a "collect" option appears, which will give you a tree seed.

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I don't know yet, if the watering prompt will reappear after some time, but if, this could be used to have a constant influx of tree seeds from your very own forest.

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I intend to use one housing plot exclusively for forestry and floristic purposes.

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like harvest house, 4 pavilions and around those trees and flowers.

slow flame
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I already had a plot with hundreds of trees and only that. Now I have a plot only for flowers too.

wary finch
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how many trees could you plant?

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hm, I just remember that I have a private retreat plot as well,which would be more suited for floristics. So I'll likely separate forestry from floristic.

slow flame
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I don't know if the trees share the limit with flowers now. They're all included within the 3000 total limit but I don't know if they have their own limit like flowers

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wary finch
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ok, that is good enough for me, thank you for showing how it looks like.

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I guess the price for pavilions will be insane, I'd love to use those in between.

rancid galleon
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What time do the flowers grow?

wary finch
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I don't know about flowers, but trees show the watering prompt at 6am.

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which is pretty practical, if you plant trees after 3am and water them, you will have the first 2 cycles very quickly.

slow flame
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I just check once an hour, but the tick for flowers is before 6am (or maybe there are 2 ticks per hour)

wary finch
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Reda, do trees provide several times a single seed or is this just once the case?

slow flame
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Just one seed like flowers. So, unlike gardening, starting with only one seed would be really slow.

wary finch
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I'm just low on juniper seeds, otherwise I have about 160 tree seeds to start with.

slow flame
harsh gorge
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6am

slow flame
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My trees like to travel between plots. Having a full grown oak in the middle of my garden is not very practical

slow flame
harsh gorge
slow flame
wary finch
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this stuff traveling between plots is a common bug, think of those default ceiling lamps for example. Once a room is completed in one of the secondary plots, it travels to the default plot and hovers there in the air.

slow flame
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I know, but huge trees are a little bit too conspicuous in the middle of my garden, I prefer lamps šŸ˜‚

tranquil elbow
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Does anyone know if you plant and grow the ||flow tree seed||, can you move it if you decide you want it in a different spot?
Or am I doomed to never actually plant the seed because of needing to commit it to it's spot? šŸ¤£
I seen someone say you only get 1 of each type from the Galdur.

wary finch
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good question, to me it seems that the only trees, you cannot move, are those, which are by default on the housing plot. So far I could move all those trees, which I've planted myself. Not sure, if this is possible while they are growing though, didn't try that.

slow flame
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you can move the trees you plant at any time
can't see why the flow ones would be different but I don't have one yet so...

gusty vessel
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can we get more plots yet?

slow flame
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dang, I've already reached the maximum number of plants on my flower farming plot

real dock
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Question: the notes from Palia says there are 13 new flower seeds but wiki is saying there is only 10 seeds. My question is what bug spawns the pink and mixed hydrangeas and cottonball flower?

blazing ridge
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anyone else have their flowers disappear from their storage? I had like 20 tiger lily last night, kept getting seeds and replanting. I have 2 in my storage now

blazing ridge
real dock
delicate iron
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Such a nice feeling !

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little wing
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Hi everyone. Anyone else had trouble getting gardenia even after catching multiple blue butterflies?

slow flame
little wing
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Alright, i'll just keep trying then!

wary finch
wary finch
# slow flame It's when you realize it's still not enough....

yeah, but you can juggle with your crafters, I do that all the time, like why would I need a smelter on display, when I have not mass amounts of stuff to process? then I take it into storage and put out some other more useful crafter at this time.

slow flame
wary finch
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I have 8 for apple jam and 3 for blueberries, this works pretty well on a normal day - on a holiday it might get tight, but I have 3 other characters, where I can switch to and just let those jars and seeders do their work meanwhile.

vast heron
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So does anyone know the optimal gardening layout?

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I actually spent an hour on an excel sheet and figured out a layout that should give all plants all 4 buffs.

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But dunno if it's common knowledge.

wary finch
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the optimal garden layout is one that suits you and your skill levels well, there is no meta which would work for everyone.

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do you know about the garden planner?

vast heron
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Nope!

wary finch
blazing ridge
slow flame
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I wouldn't be surprised if there are some bugs with flowers in inventory as they seem to share the same icon and description independently of the growth stage
But they don't seem to stack when on different stages, so it might also induce some confusion

wary finch
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hm, then don't put them in storage for now, imo

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you can park them on your 2nd housing plot, if you haven't used it already, @blazing ridge

vast heron
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This is the layout I was talking about.

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That I figured out.

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Now I didn't know there was a 5th buff.

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But ye.

wary finch
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ok, don't put the same crop right beside the other, use a different crop of the same boost type instead, otherwise they don't give each other their boost.

vast heron
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Ah, no wonder.

blazing ridge
vast heron
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I was wondering why I wasn't getting quad buffs.

wary finch
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like tomato/potato or rice/wheat and carrot/bok choy for example

vast heron
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Here it is.

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Sadly I didn't know about the 2x2+3x3 plants.

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And the only other quality increase plant is a 2x2.

wary finch
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yeah, spicy peppers

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but you can use quality upgrade fertilizer to make up for it

vast heron
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Yeah.

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I did make up a thing that uses 2x2, one sec.

wary finch
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you can produce quality upgrade fertilizer in a normal worm farm, which you can get by upgrading your fishing skills.

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btw 2x2 plants need a boost twice to work and 3x3 need it 3 times.

vast heron
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Here's the chilli layout.

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There might be a better way.

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But this is off top of head.

slow flame
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Since there are 10 flowers available at the moment and a cap of 1,000 plants on one plot, I'm going for a plot with 10x10 for each flower with one row fully grown but just ready for seed harvesting. Easy to pick some flowers if needed and replant some. Still leaves room for 2,000 whatever on the same plot

wary finch
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@vast herondepends what you want, when I just had peppers as the only 2x2, I figured, that at a later time I might never again plant cotton and peppers, so I made a layout which creates lots and lots of star quality cotton and star quality peppers - this is my weirdly shaped garden, but it can easily be upgraded with blueberries later on, it requires 12 quality upgrade fertilizers every day though - it might not be what you want, but my idea was, to produce as many cotton and peppers as I could, because I might never again plant both later on, because everything will be star quality anyway with high skills.

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and the upgrade with blueberries looked like this, easy to upgrade

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the cotton on the latter is mainly for the loom, that is why it's not quality boosted. the one with only peppers is to save star cotton seeds and/or to sell them.

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and when you have enough of cotton, replace it with bok choy and seed those, nearly 100% value increase seeded.

vast heron
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I'm thinking things can be buffed more then once?

wary finch
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well, in that case, replace all peppers with blueberries, that is what I did until I got apple seeds.

vast heron
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So if something is next to two tomatoes, it would retain more water then just one?

wary finch
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ofc they can, but why would I want that, I want high yield, I never focus on lazy.

vast heron
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I saw that when you log out, you only get one extra farming tick.

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Which means water retain/weed prevention is typically not ideal.

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It would be if the garden ticks work when you're logged out.

wary finch
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once you have blueberries with rice/wheat/corn in between, you have to harvest every other day anyway, water retain is of no use in this case.

vast heron
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Neat.

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So really max harvest/quality.

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When do you want to start worrying about quality plants?

wary finch
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I had nearly just quality crop, because I used mass amounts of quality upgrade fertilizer, which I produce in normal worm farms.

slow flame
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actually, quality isn't that important, when people start only getting star quality crops they begin to come here asking how to get regular crops (for cooking)

wary finch
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you can cook with star quality as well,just check the box for use star quality first.

vast heron
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I'm assuming in general, quality items just increase how much they sell for or "give".

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And to make quality items, you need quality materials.

slow flame
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true, it does bring more money, but you'll be lvl 25 in no time (in which case star seed -> star crop)

wary finch
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it depends on the skill, at level 50 even normal seeds will always end up as star quality produce.

vast heron
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Low maintainence also seems handy when you're starting out and doing loads of stuff and going out of the home a lot.

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There is a good chunk of travel time.

slow flame
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to clarify, chance of getting star crop = 2% per gardening level + 50% if star seed
so at level 25, star seed means 100% star crop
and at level 50, any seed means 100% star crop

vast heron
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But maybe it's not enough to warrant it.

wary finch
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it's all about planning -- lets say you come home day 1 at 2am, do your garden work and wait for 6am, then you harvest and do garden work again. you might be done at about 10am, then you go out for 40 hours and return on day 3 at 2am, and the cycle continues. you don't have to be home every day, it is enough to be home every other day like this.

vast heron
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Hm.

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That being said, how does the farm tick while offline exactly?

wary finch
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it will stop growing at 6am

vast heron
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Yeee, looks like it.

vast heron
wary finch
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with "go out for 40hrs" I meant ingame hours and doing other stuff in the game, not going offline.

vast heron
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Gotcha.

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What's the time scale in this game?

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Ratio from in game to real?

wary finch
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1 rl hours = 1 ingame day

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6am palia time is at xx:15 on your clock (if you aren't in a time zone with 30 minutes increments)

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what I do is waiting that 3 of my characters get space in their jars and seeder and worm farms, and I log in the 4th character ever 2 hours to work the shedule I just outlined

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do a little stuff meanwhile with this character in game and then logout to chat again or do whatever in rl.

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and after some hours I log into the other characters and rake in the money, pretty simple.

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I might binge play for a little while then, to regain the everything is filled well state, and the cycle continues.

blazing ridge
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I usually tele home after 6 am, do garden stuff, refill crafters as needed, replenish arrows/bombs, and then head back out (maybe take a break). I generally fill inventory over an hours time and then I repeat

wary finch
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yeah, it depends on rl as well, I have vacation time currently for the next 2 weeks,so I can binge play, it is different ofc when I am back to my normal work schedule.

blazing ridge
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I do 7 apple trees, 7 jars. rest of apples make pies. works for my play style/time

wary finch
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I have either 4 apple trees with 6 berry bushes or 5 apple trees with 4 berry bushes, depends on the character I'm playing with.

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all of them have 8 jars for apples, 3 jars for berries, and 5-7 seeders, dependent on what else they farm.

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and I run 4-6 worm farms.

blazing ridge
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I only ever have 1 seeder. lol. just to make apple seeds. I can't understand how having that many machines up at all times is viable. I struggle keeping these running sometimes

wary finch
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well it is easy, those 3 jars for berries are not enough, and when my apple trees regrow, I use those 8 apple jars with berries. When the apples are back live, all is processed and I can start over again.

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and 3 seeders are always busy with bok choy, the other seeders are used for different crops.

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my problem is not keeping them busy, but having to go offline to give my jars, seeders and worm farms a little breathing space until they will be flooded with produce again.

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I mean 5 apple trees well boosted produce 480 apples in 20 days, that are in average 24 apples every ingame day - and if I play a lot, I will be flooded with that stuff, keeping all busy is no problem at all.

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this is why I have several characters, that I can play, while the others get some breathing space.

slow flame
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weird thing, the time at which the flowers need to be watered changes
didn't check for a pattern yet

wary finch
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oh my, I haven't done flowers yet, but not being on a schedule is really bad news.

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btw is it correct, that every tree is just producing one seed?

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next up: waking up character 2, I will have to restructure her garden, upgrade her infrastructure, reshape her houses and stuff like this, so binge play is on again.

slow flame
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yes, flowers and trees are the same, 1 seed -> 1 plant -> 1 seed
only the number of 'waterings' and growth stages changes

wary finch
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ok, good to know

wary finch
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flowers are weird, I planted one at exactly 8pm and the watering prompt came up at about 3.30am, I was distracted for a moment, because I didn't expect it to happen in between the hours.

blazing ridge
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yeah I had some become water ready at like 6 pm. entirely different schedule than trees and crops I had going. not exactly a flawless system currently. also putting fully grown/harvested flowers back in storage may bug them, causing them to be lost

wary finch
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default number of housing plots is broken as well, character 1 has bought 1 plot and has 3, this is correct - character 2 never bought one and has 3 as well - character 3 never bought one and has 2, this is correct as well -character 4 never bought one and has 3.

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it is not even consistent in it's time line.

wary finch
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and now it was exactly at 4.12am and gave me a seed after watering.

grand river
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Hi! Someone has a good design of a farm to get all the crops?

blazing ridge
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if you're going for "all crops", just grab 5 of each seed and just drop them away from each other. repeat until full. you don't need all the boosts just to grow crops for cooking
worry about boosts when you get to the "I only want these 2 crops" stage. before that just farm what you need as you're going

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or do this and fill in what you are wanting to grow

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wary finch
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in this doc from Sen are a few all crop layouts

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all crops include apples and if you would have apples, you would most likely not have to ask, so they might or might not be useful to you.

fossil birch
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I spent way too long making my own custom 100% water/weed all crop designs. šŸ˜…šŸ˜­

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I like that I can leave my garden alone for a few in game days and not worry about it.

grand river
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But there's a layout to have a good farming with all the crops? like to sell them

wary finch
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yeah, everyone has different needs, I want 100% harvest and speed boost, I rarely ever have any weed block and ofc no water retention, to me that is a total waste - you see, everyone has different ideas about it.

grand river
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I will check the doc!

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thanks

wary finch
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I calculate my garden over a time span of 360 days, if the outcome is about 1.5 to 2 million gold, it is a good one, and lazy layouts achieve just about a million or less.

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that is what it actually costs to have an afk garden

fossil birch
cyan thistle
blazing ridge
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all the trees I'm growing look so sad with that frowny empty water indicator

blazing ridge
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oof the game is definitely deleting flowers from storage. all my tiger lily are gone. had 10+ grown put in storage last night and now I have 0 grown, 2 sprouts. they're just up and gone

golden pewter
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hey all, been looking through garden layouts and everything and notice a lack of bok choy and cabbage. Is there a reason they're just not being planted?

brave dune
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according to my research bok choy is best farm but requires attention? with harv boost ?

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fossil birch
brave dune
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ah what i do is just sell and this only takes 3 hrs but i have a idea on if i were to cook

fossil birch
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Here's my current circus

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I switched to quality fert for the chilis. I keep all non-quality food for cooking and quality items go into the preserves/seed collectors.

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I try to balance the non-quality output of crops for what I use when I cook. shrugs it works for me, even if it's not the best money maker

brave dune
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ya i think ill do something like that later but for now im focused on easy money so one crop bok then i will later on worry about the other crops lol

fossil birch
clear kindle
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a bit of a change in just bok choy, a little more attentive with watching how you replant things, but opens up for other fertilizers if you want to

brave dune
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oooo

tame mauve
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I guess this still is accurate

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flat jackal
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anybody need any blueberries/apples or their seeds? im keeping some normal quality ones in case anyone needs some

blazing jay
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Iā€™ve been doing this recently and just using the weed plot as a cooking crops plot and letting the inbetween plants (wheat, rice and I added corn for variety) collect weeds

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Costs lots of water retaining but itā€™s pretty damn good

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But if you really do want variety Iā€™ve found this layout thatā€™s super good whilst not as profitable than all bok choi it includes basically everything aswell as having full water retain

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@brave dune

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It does require apples and blueberries though so youā€™d have to be level 10, if you arenā€™t over level 25 aswell a good fertizeiler would be quality for basically everything

brave dune
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Interesting

jolly mantle
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šŸ˜„

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tranquil elbow
lofty sandal
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Are trees able to grow close to eachother? Or do they have to be some distance from eachother?

blazing jay
serene ruin
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if my crop has already ripened, will fertilizer effect still apply before i harvest them?

gilded arch
jolly wigeon
distant rover
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Did they say when the 3 missing flower types will be available? I'm guessing they will wait until another patch?

blazing jay
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@dusty kayak quick question when you put stuff in worm bins is it normal worms? Because glow worms are worth more so Iā€™m not sure if I remember correctly that you used normal worm bins

dusty kayak
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but i do use 1 glow worm bin, for glow worm fishing since money from fish will always be good
and use the fert to boost the tree (speedy grow)

jolly mantle
gilded arch
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@jolly mantle @jolly wigeon chapaalove thank you

blazing jay
hushed temple
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So I'm not being able to place crops right now? I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong

valid pumice
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Is it me, or do crops seem to take longer to grow since the update?

vernal bluff
hushed temple
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Well I have a bunch of tomatoes going but there's this patch where I was growing bok choy and now it seems like I can't place things there. I've tried corn, rice, and peppers so far

hushed temple
vernal bluff
wary finch
wary finch
serene ruin
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if my crop has already ripened, will fertilizer effect still apply before i harvest them?

wary finch
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don't think so and you would have fertilizer on it at every tick, not just the last one.

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like if it grows in 4 days, and you use fertilizer just on one of those days, you have just a 25% chance, that the fertilizer will work.

serene ruin
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icic tysm for your response! it's hard to gauge when they are going to be ripe! i use two different types of fertilizers so.. :/

wary finch
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well, growth boost works like this, for every 2 days of growth another day of growth will be added, so a plant which would normally grow in 3 days, will be ripe in 2, a plant with 4 days will be ripe in 3 and a plant with 6 days in 4, then an apple tree in 8 days instead of 12.

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harvest boost adds 50% of normal harvest amount.

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but if there is weed somewhere on the plant's tile(s), it won't grow further until you remove the weed.

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be careful with apple trees, there can be weed in the middle, which is hard to see, because it is at the root of the tree.

hushed temple
wary finch
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when you tile it, it is just fully tiled, when you see this popping glow effect for a moment, otherwise the tile isn't fully tiled. Tiling gets much easier with an upgraded hoe.

pallid frost
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What am I doing wrong?

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latent briar
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I would say it wants you to water it more

pallid frost
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But it's mature

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It doesn't take water anymore

latent briar
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Did you get a seed from it

pallid frost
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I didn't, but then it told me to return again, so I returned and now it gave me a tree

barren oracle
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do trees grow at 6am? or does it take 24 palia hrs? or something differentā€¦?

blazing ridge
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yes 6 am, some stages require multiple watering (so multiple days/hours)

elder cradle
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Couldn't find an infographic so I made one myself. Hope it's helpful

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elder cradle
cyan shoal
jolly mantle
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the tree has also grown a tad

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wary finch
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to me it seems, that flowers can be watered all at the same time, but when this actually is, is somewhat random, somewhere in between 3 and 5am, at least that's what I experienced so far.

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changing every day

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so something like 3am + rng(120) minutes

rare grotto
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Does anyone know how often the galdur gives us a new flow seed?

deep acorn
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:finished getting all the things for the last 2 vaults, excited to finish them:
:remembers i have 0/100 apples and not enough medals to buy seeds: kitsuusweat

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the produce shop at the farm needs to start selling apples istg. why is there no way to buy them. why are seeds not sold at zeki's shop. i'm in hell

clear kindle
flat jackal
deep acorn
# clear kindle you can also get apple seeds from friend quests (level 3 nai'o and zeki), have l...

already past both of those friend quests, i have no lucky coins (and don't want to waste my money for some when it's not 100% that i will get seeds), and requesting apples only requests 3 at a time. 4 requests per day, all apples, equals 12 apples per day. that's slightly more than 8 real-life days to get to 100. not the most practical or efficient. and having a request fulfilled isn't a guarantee, either

clear kindle
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so, if you've completed the quests for both of the characters, you can request an apple seed and plant them with growth boost to get 24 apples per harvest. you can also request the apples, see if you can get the 12, put them into a seeder and get an apple seed that way as well

deep acorn
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i've just requested seeds. still no guarantee, though. i just wish there was an easier way to get apples (and blueberries)

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you can buy every other produce except for those two (and peppers i think?)

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which is a bit annoying

clear kindle
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well, apples are more of an end game type crop, since its the best crop to grow for profit, i can see why they wouldn't make apples able to be bought at the store. too easy for newbies to power their way through the game

deep acorn
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just put them behind the level cap like other end game resources you can buy

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i haven't used fertilizer since before the update, and normally it would last for a day or two, but it disappeared the moment the day turned over and now my apple seeds no longer have harvest boost

flat jackal
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i specifically kept normal quality ones to give away before i hit lvl 25 gardening lol

deep acorn
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man 100 apples for a vault bundle is insane. who did this.

flat jackal
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i went through the same struggle asking friends for some but they only had starred quality stuff lol

flat jackal
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with harvest boost i get about 60 apples per harvest (i have 4 trees planted)

deep acorn
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i coulda sworn i had apples in storage before the update. guess not though

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when's the best time to use harvest boost?? like, the day before they're ready to harvest or what?

clear kindle
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oh no, you want to have fertilizer on your crops since planting, you can stack them up to 99 so you don't have to keep doing it. or if you don't want to place fertilizer, you can put 3 harvest boost crops (rice, wheat or corn) next to the apple tree and get the boost that way

deep acorn
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ok so what's the deal with the fertilizer going away so fast now, then? i swear it lasted way longer before

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my apples were at harvest boost 9 and then the day turned over and poof. nothin

clear kindle
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apples take 9 fertilizer per day (since they take 9 tiles)

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blueberries and peppers take 4 fert a day, and all other crops just take the 1

deep acorn
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yeah, i get that. but with smaller crops when i first started playing i'd only use 1 and it would last for like 2 days

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i have both my apples to harvest boost 27 and i'm making some wheat and corn seeds right now

wary finch
deep acorn
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from the messages i've sent do i look like someone with a large dedicated apple farm?

wary finch
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when you binge play you could have a 5 tree apple farm well harvest and growth boosted within an rl day, one of my characters is just doing that currently

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starting with one non-star apple seed, the setup of a 5 star seeded apple tree farm takes about 20.5hrs

deep acorn
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that's cool. i have the responsibilities of a soon-to-be-adult, though. i've already spent too much time playing today

wary finch
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well, easter is ahead, I have vacation time, and I'm 36, adults have spare time too,you know

deep acorn
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it's really awesome you have that spare time. i wish i had that. but unfortunately i don't. so trying to set up the most efficient apple tree farm isn't the greatest option for me right now since i can't maintain it

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i don't have 20 hours in one day to spend planting trees in a video game

wary finch
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oh, I do work meanwhile as well, I just have to be online for a few minutes every hour.

deep acorn
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ok

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must be nice

wary finch
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I know that such a farm isn't really for someone with like 15hrs/week to spend on gaming though. That is why I always said, that there is no meta, which would work for everyone.

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the required infrastructure to run that farm efficiently is on top of it not cheap at all.

deep acorn
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mhm

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and i'm not that dedicated

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i can't be that dedicated

wary finch
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I run mine with 5 seeders, 11 jars and 4 glow worm farms

deep acorn
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šŸ‘

wary finch
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but I would be flooded with produce nevertheless,that is why I have 4 characters - while I'm playing one, the other 3 get some breathing room, that their jars and seeders and worm farms can empty until I return to them.

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I play one at a time, while the others are creating money passively and offline.

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and when I would have the feeling, that I'm getting too wealthy, I create a new character, because I like the build up from scratch, being wealthy is not that interesting.

deep acorn
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or you could just take it easy so you don't become too wealthy

bright wyvern
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Does anyone have a recommend layout to farm apples? I need a bunch for the new bundle.

deep acorn
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just scroll up

clear kindle
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my favorite before i went for aesthetics.

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you can also change the regular crops for the harvest boost ones instead of using the fertilizer if wanted and use speed boost as the fertilizer on the apples

orchid wyvern
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When do crops go into there next cycle, is it everyday at 6am? so for e.g. if Carrots are 3 day harvest, does that mean I wait 6am each palia day to water them? and 1hour 30mins irl time until they're ready to harvest?

clear kindle
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the growth tick is at 6am, yes

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and the time changes at x:15 irl

orchid wyvern
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Amazing thank you, so every palia day at 6am is when I go to water etc and harvest, appreciated sylv

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What's x:15 sorry?

clear kindle
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oh, like the 6am starts at like 9:15 irl, that's what i meant

dusty kayak
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right 6 am is every 15th minute of the hour

orchid wyvern
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Ahh ok so 6am to 6am is an hour irl right?

clear kindle
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yep

orchid wyvern
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Ok so basically an hour + 15min irl each cycle, ok gotcha ^^

clear kindle
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the next palia day will start at in about 30 minutes, then the day will last for an hour

barren oracle
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is there anyone whoā€™s actually a fan of the new tree dirt piles

clear kindle
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i'm not, they mess with my fence line

blazing ridge
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if you plant flowers around where you plant the tree seed you can make it less awful as the tree grows and the flowers block the dirt from view (a little)

jovial owl
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is there anywhere i can find the like ideal money making setup for gardening, im at that later game stage now and ive just been rolling with tomatoes and preserving bins for a bit amd was curious if theres a more profitable method like mixing corn in for the harvest boost?

blazing ridge
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it's mostly dependent on how many hours you play/check-in. I like just doing apples. plenty of focus food and money (pies for food, jam for money). outside of houses and rooms you don't need a whole lot of money late game, if you've bought the essentials

wary finch
# deep acorn or you could just take it easy so you don't become too wealthy

that is what I actually try and why I made 4 characters, anyone of those slowing down - it is actually very relaxed, I've done it now 4 times and know exactly what I'm doing and when I have to do what, and this leads in the end to the same outcome, just much more relaxed - I guess it is just me, in any game it turns out like this in the end.

blazing ridge
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I just hit 45 gardening, I'm sure yall are way past me

clear kindle
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it completely depends on how many hours or how often you can check in on the game. if you are online for a good portion of the day that you can tend to the garden, faster growing crops are going to be the way to go as they can be harvested and placed into and out of the crafters faster, if you have a limited time to play, going for things that are slower to make (apples) and putting them in preserve jars and worm bins while you are at work/school/sleeping is better.

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i do a lazy apple farm (see the link i posted above) but i only harvest the apples now and leave everything else where it is

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clear kindle
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i do harvest boost fertilizer by putting the apple jams that i make into worm farms (16/16 regular worms/harvest boost fert per jam) and just apply it to the apple trees as that is the only thing that i harvest

jovial owl
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ohhhh nice i see, so u just flat out dont harvest ur other crops?

clear kindle
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but if you don't mind tending to the garden, you can swap out either the water plants or the weed plants for harvest boost ones

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nope, harvest boost nets you 24 apples per tree per harvest, i'm at level 61 gardening, so all of those are star quality and for the 5 trees at the end of the full growing time when the trees disappear, is a total of 480 apples

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of course this setup for me is actually way too much, as i don't have nearly as many preserve jars to cover all of those, so for me, i'm not getting the full benefits of the garden

jovial owl
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oh wow, does the other star value matter? idk if it effected the buffs they give

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meaning the crops that arent the apple trees

wary finch
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buffs are the same

clear kindle
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just extra money if i wanted to harvest as star quality earns a bit more

jovial owl
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alrighty ill give apple trees a try and see how it works lol thank u!

clear kindle
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but with the gold limit being only 300,000, i'm constantly hitting that and i don't have much to spend on other than zeki coins. and then i don't go under 200,000

wary finch
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it's reasonably fast, if you can play a lot or at least login every (other) hour, but slow, if you can't.

clear kindle
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yeah, apple trees take the longest to grow at 12 hours and you need to be online to have them go to the next growth tick, so if you aren't on very much apples may take longer than crops that can grow within 3-5 hours

wary finch
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with not much playtime on hand, you will most likely not be happy with a high yield apple garden. If you play like 15hrs/week, it will take you like 2 weeks, before it will give you any profit, because it takes freaking long like this to install everything. Then if you don't have the infrastructure in place to run it (like 8 jars and 4 glow worm farms at least I'd say), your income won't be better than what you can achieve with a quite simple and easier to manage garden. So it will take time and money to get the infrastructure as well, which means you might not have any decent profit for a month or more, if you cannot play a lot.

clear kindle
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yeah, at that point faster growing crops, like bok choy, rice and wheat would do far better to get money

dusty kayak
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if you water fert and weed plot you can just log in log out

wary finch
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you could ofc just simply sell the apples, that turns out to be about 2500 gold per hour played -you can make more with a simpler garden.

clear kindle
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yeah, i went with a more aesthetic looking plot (only 4 apple trees) and i still have over 175 apples in storage simply because i don't have the preserve jars needed, again i'm at a point where aesthetics are priority over money

wary finch
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bok choy, yes and no, because it takes quite some time in the seeder, so you need as well there quite a good infrastructure to really make good money with it. A garden really needs to be adapted to the time you have to care for it - even just loging in and out for a few minutes every hour requires to be able to do that - construction workers, bus drivers or any other outdoor profession might not be able to do that.

wary finch
clear kindle
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yeah, i only have 6 preserve jars down even though i have all the writs. i always knew that i was going to go a more aesthetic play than a more min/max type of play, so my workshop has most of the craft writs covered. i have a crafter for each item that goes into them (6 furnaces for each of the ores, 3 sawmills, etc), i use them for extra storage as well

wary finch
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ah I see, that is a totally different approach to mine.

clear kindle
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it was the same when i played stardew valley as well, aesthetics over profit

wary finch
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I have 1 saw mill, 1 smelter, nothing else what isn't creating profit -and I put both in storage, if I don't have mass amounts to cut or smelt. I don't run a loom or a glas furnace, I simply buy that stuff

blazing ridge
wary finch
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I sometimes even buy planks, to not have to put out a saw mill

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storage wise we seem to be quite different as well, I have upgraded iron chests, but I rarely have more than 6000 in store, I would not even need iron chests at all.

blazing ridge
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I had max storage for so long. then switched to crafter storage. around 6k now

clear kindle
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yeah, i'm a hoarder by nature in games like these, thanks rpg games that need that one rare item i got back in chapter 3 that i sold and now i need it for something else

blazing ridge
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same. every patch is just me using what I have in storage to craft the new items, then refill storage

wary finch
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hm, yeah, totally different playstyle, I'm more of the "just in time" type, I have as well rarely a lot of money, because money earns me nothing if it is just a number on an account, it has to be put into something what earns me something (or unnecessary stuff at least, not just a number on an account)

blazing ridge
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I'm almost broke now. bought 5 zeki coins and then a bunch of the wallpapers I'll never use. gotta make more jams!

wary finch
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Sen seems to be like this as well - when he posted something, where you could see his/her/their gold amount, it was just pocket money -guess (s)he/they has/have an expensive hobby as well.

clear kindle
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i like to keep around 200,000 in gold, in case something in a new update has a limited time event items, like winterlights. so when i'm getting close to the cap of 300,000 i go and buy either zeki coins or stacks of items i need for the petit fives (my focus food since i have so many apples)

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and, since i don't have any idea on how i want to decorate my plot i tend to do a lot of mining and foraging runs... have a bit of an obsession with the potted plants that need sweet leaves

wary finch
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you know, I was hoarder in the past, but I realized, that I need like nothing of all that stuff, it just cloggs my storage, so I changed my attitude. Moneywise the same, I go for asset and shareholder value, I don't need money, I have credit, I pay with money I don't own and will never have to pay back, because the bank will alway offer me a bigger loan at a lesser interest rate, whenever I pay something back.

hot bolt
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Really hope we get to have more gardening plots in the future.

wary finch
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ok but this is off topic, I'll stop now.

clear kindle
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i would like to have more plots too, but probably won't happen

wary finch
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then you would have an even bigger problem to avoid the gold cap, lol

hot bolt
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if there's a gold cap, I've never hit it in my life

wary finch
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300k

hot bolt
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never even gotten over 100k coins i don't think

wary finch
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me neither, I avoid large amounts of money and do something with it -- but in this game there is a point, where you can just spend it on gambling or live with the cap, and I'm no gambler.

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but I can make a new account and start over

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or in games with a massive economy, when you realize you could buy everything but want nothing of it - so frustrating.

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the feeling of even more stuff is just a burden you have to care for, at that point you don't want more stuff anymore.

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the character I'm currently playing had over 150k, but then I bought another plot and a harvest house and upgraded my infrastructure, and now she is free of money again .... well until her new garden will create profit, then the problem starts again,what to do with it.

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build houses, which I am unlikely to ever use at all -stuff like that. lol

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ok, I need to care for my flowers and trees

blazing ridge
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ooh got a flow acorn today. now just 999 to go

wintry bronze
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What is best for a beginner?
rigth now im making seeds from star crops, but i notice not all crops is star from it, is it better to sell the star crops and make seeds from the regular crops? im also using fertiliser (T1 i think just normal brow fertilizer)

clear kindle
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when i started i did rows of potato and tomato, since i always had to stop back by my home plot to drop off my foraging haul i was able to tend to the farm, but i'm sure there's a better layout than that now

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as far as what to seed? i kept the star seeds for replanting and sold the regular seeds and any star that i didn't need for the next replant

wintry bronze
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im doing cotton and just now planted 6 pepper plants

west bluff
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I was excited about the growing of trees but this.... the tree piles not at all šŸ˜¦ I wish they look like the original ones, big but with all roots under the ground! :___ I had to change many things on my plot /cry

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serene thicket
umbral horizon
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hallo can anyone update me on what the best veg/fruit to grow is? and if i shud seed/preserve them?

blazing jay
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Hereā€™s the comparison with seeds and jars when it comes to what to grow itā€™s kinda personal preference but I mainly grow apples

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@umbral horizon

gilded arch
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anyone knows what is weed plot? is it somekind of plot that dont grow weed on?

wary finch
wary finch
# gilded arch anyone knows what is weed plot? is it somekind of plot that dont grow weed on?

if there are 9 weeds in your garden, no further weeds will be added. So some people make an extra plot with 8 plants on them, which will not be harvested, but are meant to catch weeds -8 of those, not 9, because there is a bug with 9 weeds on the same plot. So, this is the weed plot basically, and then the rest of the garden can at most gain another weed, or none more, if this 9th weed is never picked,

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You basically sacrifice 9 slots to have the remaining 72 slots weed free without requiring weed protection. Well, it is actually 1 slot more you sacrifice, because one on the the weed plot is empty.

gilded arch
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chapaalove thank you

wary finch
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it is not something I would do, sacrificing 12.34% of the potential of my garden, convenience is expensive.

serene thicket
wary finch
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I don't like it as well and I guess, it will be changed, this annoys too many people.

serene thicket
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yup i hope it will soon

wary finch
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did you guys realize, that those new flowers can be attached inside the house to those attachment lines (in edit mode visible) and as well at the entrance outside?

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now I will have to test, to which items they attach as well, maybe we can make planters ourselves?

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maybe a night stand or an end table with flowers on top of it could somewhat look like a planter if rotated the right way.

sick robin
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has anyone had any issues growing an acorn to maturity? my lady hasnt been able to for a couple days now an just wondering if it may be bugged or if we just need to be more patient lol šŸ˜›

harsh gorge
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Took me several RL days to get one to maturity

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From Adult

hazy flume
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Hi, I donā€™t know if anyone could help me but I got some questions about starred items, I have seen that starred fruits make starred seeds, but I donā€™t know if I plant the stared seeds would I get more starred plants ? And if I use starred cotton in the loom would I get starred fabric ?

slow flame
hazy flume
clear kindle
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seed star crops, replant any star seed crops, can keep a few for replanting if need be, sell regular seeds and overstock of star seeds

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because as you level your gardening, star crops will be more likely to be produced over normal ones, once you are level 25, you will only get star crops from star seeds, at level 50 everything you plant will be starred