🍳│cooking-foraging

[unreal trail]

thanks!

[keen palm]

Is there a bug going on with cooking? My partner has had several recipes get ruined because flipping keeps failing like a major delay from their commands

[marsh drum]

are they holding down and then releasing when it's in the circle? this is the most commonly misunderstood step!

[keen palm]

Yes but the game is acting like they are releasing much later

[marsh drum]

i've seen one other person possibly experiencing something similar? it may just be a lag issue though im not sure unfortunately! you can submit a bug report though just incase

[keen palm]

Thanks I'll do that

[delicate elm]

I had the glitch happen to me tonight, it wouldn't let me stop the circling motion. First time I've experienced this.

[worthy depot]

Hello! My friend delanie and I would like to do a cake party! Would anyone like to join? We could schedule a time for tonight or tomorrow!

[latent marsh]

Anyone know how to get the star quality Sernuk noodle soup?

[jade forum]

You already have the recipe? If not, friendship levels with Ashura gives access to his room where it is. If you already have it, it's a matter of making it with as many star quality ingredients as you can, having good timing and not making many mistakes on prep, cooing level, and RNG/chance to get star quality meal outputs.

Aka, just keep trying!

[latent marsh]

I have access to his room but don’t have the recipe.

[jade forum]

The recipe is on the windowsill in a blue book, you have to interact with it to obtain the recipe which then can be cooked on the stove

[latent marsh]

Thank you!

[dry beacon]

can anyone tell me how this works i made one then used it but nothing happen

[jade forum]

They only serve a purpose in Bahari, and you need to be within 200m of the resources for them to register to be traceable
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Dowsing_Rod

[bold plover]

Hi, looking for the fastiest 50-55% focus dishes. Any idea ?

[mortal quartz]

• Spicy crab fried rice: 600/400, very fast
• Chili oil dumplings: 350/525, somewhat fast
• Phoenixfire Relleno: 300/450, fast
• Spicy stir fry: ??/487, somewhat fast
• Stuffed cabbage rolls: ??/412, fast, 95%+ star rate

Bouillabaisse (350/525) is faster than chili oil dumplings, but it is annoying to catch enough fish and oysters, and it requires potatoes

[crystal harbor]

Anyone want to bake cakes for like an hour?

[ruby lotus]

I didn’t see this til now, but I have 164 regular sweet leaf. As like 75 of the other ingredients needed for the celebration cake if you want to join my friend and I shortly?

Darn. I guess I’m a bit late, but if you would still like to join us, you can look me up, my ign is Hez The Great

[regal maple]

Hi! I’m new to the server. Anyone up for flow foraging?

[limpid hull]

i am!

[crystal harbor]

So sorry I ended up busy for the rest of the evening but I’ll add you and also add you as a friend on here! Feel free to reach out anytime you need a helping hand with cooking

[ruby lotus]

I’m actually about to join a cooking party soon with some friends on another discord server, add me and I’ll dm you!!

[crystal harbor]

That’d be great!

[regal maple]

@limpid hull My name on Palia is the same as here -lemonaomi

[limpid hull]

i cant find u

[weary bronze]

https://paliaparty.app/jfnn44

Focus food party starting soon!!

[slim tiger]

Super weird thing happened earlier. Didn't really care at all, but I just found it strange. Was running around in a hunting party and we saw an untouched grove at 6am, and we were pretty close to it. So we decided to go chop it. As soon as we go to it, it just disappeared.

I don't think anyone else chopped it either, since we were close enough to see it as we walked up to it. It just despawned, which I thought didn't ever happen.

[teal oyster]

The sky thingy tends to vanish when ur close previous choppers probs forgot one tree or the treasure or something

[tardy bobcat]

Sometimes groves are left intentionally by people hunting rainbow butterflies or no one found them from the night prior. They do naturally despawn after a while.

[slim tiger]

Oh okay. I thought a grove couldn't despawn unless chopped, so this makes sense. Just weird that it happened so quickly in game time. Oh well!

[tardy bobcat]

Yeah! It's cuz you guys came up on it right at 6am, so my guess is you entered a server that was dead and no one had found the grove prior and the grove had been sitting there into the next day, or, you came after an RTB server who finished up and left the grove.

[slim tiger]

That's why it's weird to me. The server was full and there were other hunting groups running around as well. Plenty of people and we had been on that server the whole time if I remember correctly. Got a disco dog plush instead so I'm not mad about it

[tardy bobcat]

Oh yeah! That is a little different then. Congrats on your plushie though! Yaaaaayyyy!!!!

[sinful sable]

i know there are cooking parties, but are there ever people that come by that want to group up for like the cooking accomplishments? ive neglected friendship levels most of the game and now im just waiting on daily gifts to level friendships up so i can get a couple recipes

[ruby lotus]

Bro that sucks so much I’m so sorry

[sinful sable]

if it isnt the consequences of my own actions 💔

[jade forum]

Absolutely, I wouldn't mind helping you out with this today! I'm going to be online in like a half hour or so

[teal oyster]

this is the place or u can randomly yell at poeple to help u ingame

[sinful sable]

that would be great! please let me know when you are on!

[jade forum]

In the mean time do you have a screenshot of your cooking acheevs so we know which ones you need to cook?

[ruby lotus]

Hey, does anyone have a bunch of sweet leaf, and would like to do a cake/cooking party at my place? Going to stock up on ingredients at zekis now if anyone is interested? I’m buying 100 of everything lol

[sinful sable]

well i am trying to go for master cooking by the book mainly need

• trout dinner
• apple pie
• sernuk noodle stew
• fried catfish dinner
• cream of mushroom soup
  those are all the ones that require friendship 3 with someone

[jade forum]

I think I might need to go get a trout first since the starter needs the trout for the dinner, but after that I'll be good to cook all of those!

[sinful sable]

no worries, ill be on around 12/12:30 est (about 20-40 min

[jade forum]

Trout secured

[ruby lotus]

I got 100 of everything besides apples (I have 94 starred) and sweet leaf (I have 3) anyone wanna do a cake party?

[sinful sable]

i am on now - is your name on here your ign, mine is imVanta

[jade forum]

Yes it's Fern Xander! Let me use up my resource compass then I'll head home

[scarlet ridge]

I'm having trouble cooking the steak dinners. Whenever I click the circle to flip the meat it just keeps spinning

[sinful sable]

for flipping i believe you click and hold, then when the dot is in the target area you release your click

[jade forum]

Crashed but hopping right back on

[urban shoal]

1 thousand oyster later

[teal oyster]

Gratz

[scarlet ridge]

That did the trick! Thank you! I had been struggling lol

[tidal eagle]

Wow you got the pebble? Congrats, I'm still trying

[urban shoal]

3-4 days ive been opening them 😭
I didnt count how much oyster but it's a lot + tiring
I keep walking back to back, sometimes use fast travel from beachcomber to coral shores / the other way around

[tidal eagle]

I've been trying for months

[urban shoal]

Iirc i got 300-400 oyster in my storage, i didnt sell them, just put it in the glow worm maker

[teal oyster]

worming ur oyster meat asice from the few starred ones is hte best u can do with them
noone would realistically make so many oyster dishes and grilling em is also kinda meh good choice

[urban shoal]

Yes since i make glow worm for coin so i think it's still okay, but tbh im not imagining opening oyster would be the worst pain compare to hunting bug plush 😭

My 3 friends gave up in the mid way, they just cant stand it XD

[teal oyster]

you know this quest if u jhust start out the one that gives u 5 oysters

remember this when u spend farming unopnened oysters for days to open hundreds of em

i got mine on oyster nr3 within 5min of playing the game ....

[teal oyster]

i reocmmend using all spare requests to requests unpoened ones to get up to 4 tries every single day for almost 0 effort

[urban shoal]

Never thought about this, but u got the point 🙂 i'll tell my other friends about that

[teal oyster]

i onyl opened all of mine cuz none ever requested em and i needed the storage space had like 130 of em spare ...

[mortal quartz]

How long is "a while"? The patch notes for when the grove was added say "Up to 2 Flow Tree Groves can exist at a given time. If there are two already existing on the map, more will not spawn." I haven't ever seen one despawn without the trees in them being chopped down. o_O Flow trees just... hang out indefinitely, don't they? (I've definitely been by myself on servers for upwards of 4 in-game days and the groves haven't gone anywhere, at least not as far as I could tell.)

[tardy bobcat]

I'm not sure that I've kept exact count of the time it takes, but I have seen single flow trees despawn and I've seen groves despawn before personally. The same thing that happened to Aurora happened to me where you walked up on it and the the pink fuzz just disappeared as soon as you got to it, taking the trees with it.

[mortal quartz]

Oh, fascinating! Okay, now I need to find a flow tree and stare at it XD Thanks for the info

[tardy bobcat]

For science!!!

[teal oyster]

Ur not the only one with a backlog of palia stuff to science xd

[ocean lily]

List of recipes that ask for “any meat” but are showing crab Patch 0.190

Bacon-stuffed mushrooms
Chili oil dumplings
Hot Hounds
Meaty stir fry
Mushroom Dumpling soup
Pan fried Dumplings
Phoenixfire Relleno
Rice Cake Soup
Spicy Stir Fry
Oysters Akwinduu
Quiche Caleri
Stuffed Cabbage Rolls

Recipes seem to work fine once opened. Bug report submitted.

[crude spear]

I was just about to post about this too. literally ALL meat-dishes are requiring Crab now???

[ocean lily]

showing crab, still uses meat

[crude spear]

oh? so even though it shows a big red exclamation point, it'll still let me start the recipe and use Meat instead of Crab?
i haven't tried it yet bc i dont want to waste any of my food items.. 😅

[ocean lily]

I tested a few and they can be started without crab, the option to use any meat shows up once you are actively making the item.

[crude spear]

Perfect, thank you!

[ocean lily]

You're welcome. Please, if you find any exceptions -ones listed that should not use crab, please report back!

[crude spear]

Will do!

[mortal quartz]

Funnily, these have always (or at least for a very, very long time) had the option to use chopped crab as the "chopped red meat." I wonder if they reordered something?

[ocean lily]

When I go to the Palia wiki for those recipes they do not list crab meat as an ingredient, instead they show any red meat. The recipes listed will show a caution flag if you don't have crab meat but still allow the recipe to proceed if you can fulfil the any red meat requirement. If they added crab as an ingredient, they accidentally removed the any red meat from the list causing the recipe to display a warning. Stuffed cabbage rolls as an example.

[mortal quartz]

Nope, same order on the prep station, but that sure is weird-looking!

I guess that also means that folks who are starting these recipes for a cooking party will probably want to have a crab in storage somewhere so they don't get the annoying popup

See "chopped crab" on the prep table list? It counts for the "chopped meat" variable, always has :) Sometimes it's buried under other things (separate from the meat), though.

This is the carousel for Meaty Stir Fry:

[ocean lily]

I do see it, however it should not display a warning if it is optional- for instance if I had muujin meat but not sernuk when either is a usable option. It's a bug.

[mortal quartz]

Oh, yes, it's definitely a bug, sorry if I sounded like I was saying it wasn't!

[ocean lily]

I don't want to confuse anyone. I agree that crab is listed as an option, but the behavior is confusing. Also the Wiki isn't showing crab for those recipes.

[marsh drum]

the wiki is based on what it was and is supposed to be

[mortal quartz]

"Any Red Meat" is the name of the variable, and it includes (but is not only) chopped crab - that's all I was trying to say earlier. I don't know why crab is a red meat in Palia, though 😂

[marsh drum]

crabs red mean theyre red meat duh

[mortal quartz]

The wiki won't show crab because normally it's "any red meat," and the current display in-game is, as you say, a bug

I think we're all basically agreeing with each other, maybe? lol

[ocean lily]

what about the.... never mind, LOL. 🤣

[mortal quartz]

This feels like the time that some recipes had Bok Choy showing up as the required (but blanked-out??) vegetable for the Any Vegetable variable

But hey, good news: Stuffed Cabbage Rolls are STILL broken in our favor 😂

[ocean lily]

Yes, the bug is the warning, which is what I reported and the recipes that show that are what I listed.

[ocean lily]

I will take it, and the fixed pavers.

[mortal quartz]

I'll take the super-shiny mining nodes, too. Makes it easier to see them...

but that is very far off-topic lol

[tawny heart]

Oh? Had no idea, how is it broken to our advantage?

[mortal quartz]

• For some reason, Stuffed Cabbage Rolls almost always turns out starred when cooked with reasonable skill. I mean, "unusual to have one unstarred round out of 60" level, even when double roling, waiting for OP, not rushing, etc.
• It also always turns out to be worth 52g (if starred), no matter what meat and mushrooms you use. Today I re-tested it (like I always do) with a vampire crab (145g) and brightshroom (60g), and yup: 52g. This means that it always stacks even if the meat person is using crab or a mix of chapaa and sernuk/muujin. It also means that OP meat is an option without needing to worry about mixed values.

Hilariously, if you back-calculate it, that sell value basically seems to be using the pre-0.180 values for meat (13g) and mushrooms (8g) 😂 (it was broken back then, too — it seems like the numbers for meat and morels were hard-coded instead of the variables)

[lucid peak]

Loaded Potato Soup is also effected.

[fallow berry]

I thought I was going crazy! I really thought I needed crabs

[mortal quartz]

That confirms that it affects all recipes with 'chopped red meat' as an ingredient variable

[lucid peak]

same! it's my main food source so i thought i was crazy too.

[lucid peak]

glad to contribute

[mortal quartz]

TIL that it is (now? currently? always?) possible to FAIL Lucky Braised Fish by preparing an extra Fragrant Spice Mix (that consumes the 5th green onion)

Note that the prep table is uninteractable, because all of the ingredients have been prepped and none of them were ruined (like in an oven)

[left shell]

I only just got the Quiche Caleri, so I just assumed that it used crab.

[mint echo]

Quick question about cooking - I primarily grow star quality vegetables (as do most people), but this seems to be a major hinderance on cooking. Is there an option to use a blend of star quality ingredients with non star quality ingredients when you cook? It's a major blocker to have 100 of each vegetable in star quality but get blocked from cooking something because you only have 3 star quality spice sprouts

[teal oyster]

Click ALLOW starred button
It will then pull starred spices first u can lockbox em and then it will pull unstarred

[mint echo]

Thanks!

[north plaza]

This may be a stupid question, as I'm really just now diving into cooking in depth in this game. Are there recipes that require you to have two stoves? For example, Meaty Stir Fry. I have a stove, but it tells me I'm missing it?

[stark tree]

Yea, some recipes require multiple of the same station indeed!

For example the food I always make (Chapaa Masala) Requires you to fry the chapaa on one stove and throw it in the pan on the other.

You get used to it pretty quick though

[north plaza]

Ah okay so the homes I've toured don't just have the big fancy kitchens for cooking parties lol. Thanks for the help!

[marsh drum]

yes! in order to cook every recipe you'll eventually need two of every station :)

[north plaza]

I am SO glad to know this before I get further in lol

[marsh drum]

if you have any more questions feel free to @ me !!

[north plaza]

everyone here is so nice, i love it. thanks so much!

[sinful sable]

not sure if anyone else has encountered this, i was just tending my garden watering stuff, i then went to make a recipe, loaded potato soup, upon every interaction (ex chopping on cutting board) it would pull out my water can, not load the water can, and then take me out of the action i was doing, i also tried this with mixing ingredients same thing, i tried hitting unstuck to save my recipe but it did not reset, is this a known thing?
edit - it would also tell me i could not continue the action with my watering can out

[crystal harbor]

I’m going to bake some cakes at my plot at 11am est tomorrow if anyone wants to join! UN is Alexandria the great

[mortal quartz]

Yes, this is an existing glitch. It tends to happen if you accidentally press the "ready tool" keybind (R on PC, ZL...? on Switch) simultaneously with the "interact with cooking station" keybind (F on PC, A on Switch I think). It can be resolved by changing servers or relogging.

Unfortunately, doing that while you are in the middle of a recipe (if you are the owner of the plot) will also ruin the recipe. In some cases, I've had good luck with completing a tool action and then for some reason it will let me complete the cooking minigame action I was trying to do - at least for stirring/mixing.

(It happened to me in the middle of a cake party once, lol, but the time it happened when I was in the middle of a spicy crab fried rice party as the crab person was quite a bit worse, as it would interrupt after every chop...)

[sinful sable]

thank you very much, no more cooking for me until its fixed lol

[mortal quartz]

If this happens to you repeatedly (i.e., you clear the glitch by rezoning/relogging and it happens again), you might want to submit a ticket in case it's something else going on. But in the meanwhile cooking together with others offers some insurance, because they can finish any step you start if you get stuck

[strong dagger]

How to get apples and berries faster?

[mortal quartz]

• friendship level 3 quests from Badruu, Nai'o, and/or Zeki award seeds
• use every strat to level gardening as efficiently as possible to get to level 8/9/10 more quickly, and Badruu will give you free seeds
• obtain a recipe that requires a specific fruit (blueberry pie, apple pie, honey lure) so you can request the fruit until you have enough to make seeds
• be very lucky opening a Lucky Box (seeds) or getting fruit out of the rummage pile (opens requests)

Leveling strats: #🌱│gardening message (link to a specific message)

[crystal harbor]

I started focusing on like just blueberries and building up that inventory and then just planting apples and building that inventory etc. it’s how I got like 200 starred blueberries pretty quickly

[lapis jolt]

So I’m trying to cook a meaty stir fry but the stove icon is red so it won’t let me make it. I have all the ingredients

I 100% have a stove, mixing stations, prep, and oven. Any ideas why the stove icon is red?

[naive ravine]

that means you need a second stove for this recipe! one to start it, and one to cook at.
(two of each cook stations will cover you for all recipes)

[scarlet forum]

YAY!!!! I FINALLY GOT THE LADY BUG PLUSHY!! and i wasnt even trying T-T

[tawny heart]

Congrats! I always get my bug/hunt plushies while not trying, so I'm pretty sure that's the secret to getting them

[ruby lotus]

I’m aware it’s 230 am for me and 530 am on the other side of the USA rn, but is there anyone else who’s up and down to go foraging for some sweet leaf? I’ve foraged over 200 just today alone, my goal is 400 so I can join 4 cake parties

IGN is Hez The Great, just like my user name. Always looking for new friends and gaming buddies.

[sinful sable]

would anyone like to group up for cooking today? i am trying to go for master chef accomplishments, if so @ me or reply to me so i get a notification

[void moon]

Does anyone know why the interaction doesn't work when I cook and use the stove, or am I doing it wrong? It didn't give me any problems before. I play from my PC.

[marsh drum]

do you mean the flipping mini game? if so are you holding down and the releasing when the dot is in the circle! if not can you describe what's happening?

[void moon]

If I meant that, thank you, I was doing it wrong.

[tiny prawn]

Hi! Anyone free to make 3x macrons with me for the weekly? Thank you!

[teal oyster]

u up to do the other togethers weeklys to?

[tiny prawn]

Sure! I've finished mine but I'll be more than happy to help you 🙂

[teal oyster]

booting up

[tiny prawn]

ok ... what's your IGN?

[teal oyster]

duhscape

noe i need ot reboot cuz palia is being palia

palia crashed again

[green inlet]

I’m having a hard time reading when the cooking parties are based on the posts in parties. Is anyone doing a cooking party today, and if so what time?

[teal oyster]

elle was fast for sure

[delicate elm]

You can try the paliaparty.app it shows upcoming cook parties

[broken hawk]

Where does one find sweet leaf again? It's been five months since I last played

[urban bridge]

Top half of the map in Bahari Bay

[broken hawk]

Ah thank you!!!

[dense elbow]

How/where do we get the apple pie recipe

[marsh drum]

the recipe is in ||delaila and badruu's room, which you can access once you're friendship level 3 with delaila||

[dense elbow]

Thank you!!! 🙏

[thorny merlin]

anybody on see my request for 2 palia bars? chat is down for me in game 😦

[stray wigeon]

Any cooking parties that require butter?

[teal oyster]

maybe cake

[spiral ruin]

Is there anyway to grow garlic and green onions? Or do I just have to stumble across it❤️

[hybrid violet]

Can’t grow them. You can buy garlic from zeki’s register

[spiral ruin]

Bummer ok!

[teal oyster]

Wait garlic can be bought dang no need to stockpile anymore can buy a couple hundred when needed for cooking party then

[mortal quartz]

This is the particular strength of fish stew parties :)

[teal oyster]

u can obviously not buy starred one yes not like if u buy a bunch some of em turn out to be starred right

[mortal quartz]

Correct, the ones from the general store are 100% unstarred

[delicate elm]

No starred from zeki unfortunately just regular.

[mortal quartz]

To make it less stumbling and more purposeful foraging....

**Wild Garlic **shares spawn points with sundrop lilies, and there are many many of those spawn points in S. Bahari. Pick the lilies, too, to get the node to reroll for another chance at garlic. (Bonus: the ladybugs that pop out sometimes can give a plush!)

Wild green onion is found in eastern Kilima (Whispering Banks area and around the Dragon Shrine) and shares spawn points with (iirc) morels and ginger. Pick all 3 and run loops through there and you can gather quite a bit in short order.

(Images courtesy of palia.th.gl )

And in Kilima, garlic seems to share spawn points with sundrop lilies (which will occasionally pop out garden millipedes) EXCEPT in the areas where emerald carpet moss also spawns (where they will occasionally pop out garden mantises lol)

(image from palia.th.gl)

[teal oyster]

pretty sure buying garlic from zeki is more effective but hey maybe ur there anyways or like foraging

[mortal quartz]

Mostly it's an "I'm there anyway" - I see garlic, I pick it. It stacks up on me pretty quick. (Also, foraging XP = dari cloves :D)

Also 46g apiece for garlic adds up very quickly

[teal oyster]

and waste my precious medals no way nuh uh

[teal oyster]

woha pricy

well i got 150 garlic in reserve so im fine for now

[mortal quartz]

I already have as many bonsais and koi ponds as I'm planning to buy XD

I keep 1k medals in reserve in case they add something really cool in the future, but yeah I gotta dump medals on something...

might as well be poke parties

[teal oyster]

i collect decor i dont even decorate ...

[mortal quartz]

XD

[spiral ruin]

Thank you so much- feels like I either have a ton or can’t find any lol. Appreciate the help

[gloomy pond]

which website you useing?

[left shell]

foragables in Kilima give low XP, right?

[teal oyster]

i thought hte only way to level foraging is what flowtreepartys to just chop 200+ at once

are there other ways ?_?

[marsh drum]

yes there's various ways to level xp for every skill depending on how you prefer to play

[teal oyster]

but foraging is so extremely slow

[marsh drum]

not everyone wants to min-max every skill

[left shell]

yeah, I figured that after the first few levels it would taper a bit.

[marsh drum]

overall there's less foragables in kilima so it seems slower/less, but i found the best way for me is to run around the bay chopping trees and picking up every foragable i see

i don't know the exact stats, that's something Ren can probably answer, but that's my preferred method

[teal oyster]

training foraging just feels super weird to me why grab foiragables when u got no need for em

[marsh drum]

i do have a need for them, you might not but your experience is not the same as everyone else

[teal oyster]

yeay but grabbing stuff u need is not training hte skill its just getting free xp cuz u would do it anyways

[hearty violet]

Looking for fruit frosters for cake party :)) Join if you ahve star apples

[teal oyster]

well gl hf foragign and cooking i guess

[mortal quartz]

palia.th.gl :)

[mortal quartz]

All forageables of the same rarity give the same amount of XP. Kilima only has common and uncommon forageables, no rare or epic, so technically yes; but sweet leaf is uncommon, so a sweet leaf and morels run is the same XP (roughly) as a green onion/morels/ginger run. (Brightshrooms, heat root, and dragon's beard peat are rare and give more XP, but they are, well, rarer...)

Tree chopping (regular trees) blows foraging out of the water in terms of XP per time, but is limited by axe durability and bag space limitations. It is pretty tedious, in my experience, but useful if you need the wood and aren't just tossing it (and as a newer player, you do need the wood!)

Flow tree chops actually give somewhat less XP than chopping an equivalent number of large regular trees IF you just straight chop them. But flow trees give variable XP amounts: the XP they give increases every time they are damaged faster than they regenerate and then allowed to heal up. You can push the amounts quite high with some patience, and then everyone who is able to loot the tree gets the boosted XP.

[teal oyster]

huh wut what if u chop ur own tree nonstop or two of em never take em down and leave plot/logout will it stay? theoritical infinite xp
or just chop le larger tree forever and let it heal till u bring someone to chop it with you

[mortal quartz]

No, if you leave plot or change servers, home flow tree becomes a new tree and loses any XP gained

[teal oyster]

inetteresting 10hour session of chopping ur own large flowtree till ur axe breaks
but hten again flowtree party and lettign 30 poeple tag atree also will add up insanely much now if only i needed the wood i could attent one

[mortal quartz]

you can't just stand there and chop, because that doesn't damage faster than they regenerate. You can get a little added if you're good at animation cancelling, but it's slow and hard on your axe. Best results are from multiple taps at the same time.

Tagging once also does nothing unless people tap in pairs (then it works great)

[teal oyster]

flowtrees are soooo weird

[mortal quartz]

They really, really are

I was so confused after they added the XP floating text

[teal oyster]

so what do you recommend to train foraging with if u want that golden trophy

[mortal quartz]

If you can, attend an XP boosted flow tree chop (or host one). Otherwise, pick everything in sight and always pick up loot for trees you chop.

[teal oyster]

boosted partys exist 😮 ?_?

[mortal quartz]

Yep! @bold plover hosts them pretty regularly on PPA, and tbh even regular flow tree chops can be boosted a little if you and a friend buddy up for your pretap run. Sometimes hosts can be curious about the idea and I can give a little demo or run an experiment with them :) "let's see what happens if we almost chop and then let it heal before we chop fully!"

[gloomy pond]

thank you for helping

[teal oyster]

ren the alknowing he knows all

[mortal quartz]

LOL I most certainly do not

[teal oyster]

the wise and powerfull the creator of very detailed explanations

the one and only
SIR Eliot Rainald aka Ren

[mortal quartz]

brevity is my shibboleth, truly

[bright fractal]

anyone wanna cook some focus food?

[errant python]

I cannot figure out how to stir using m switch!! Can anyone help!!!

[winged goblet]

press the a button it should be automatically there when you need to stir

[errant python]

what button? I see the stir button but cant access it

[winged goblet]

The A button which recipe are you trying to make?

[errant python]

vegetable soup

[winged goblet]

why is the stir option not available it should be

[errant python]

do I need a toool?

[errant python]

do I need a tool from Reth?

[marsh drum]

you don't need any tools to be able to use the kitchen stations. when you interact with the station to stir you need to hold down the A button until it's completed the step

[errant python]

thank you!

[mortal quartz]

You can usually just tap the button once to stir, but pressing and holding will work if that breaks

[errant python]

I am so ridiculous!! I didn't realize I needed to chop the mushrooms first SMH...LOL!

[mortal quartz]

Oh! Oops! Learning experience all around, sounds like :) Glad you figured it out!

[halcyon thorn]

Where do I get the mushroom soup recipe?

[mortal quartz]

Inside Hekla's tent or during Jina's level 4 quest
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Cream_of_Mushroom_Soup#Obtain_the_Recipe

Or if you only need the soup itself for now, you can cook it with someone who has the recipe :)

[remote bay]

Anyone wanna cook ?

[crisp temple]

did it work?

[paper cape]

Does anyone know how to stir using PC?

I’m so lost

[mortal quartz]

Once the UI pops up (with the bowl) you can either tap the left mouse button to get it started, or press and hold until the action completes

[gaunt halo]

if ur joining a cooking party, do u need the recipe? or is it as long as someone starts it ur good?

[delicate elm]

You don't need the recipe if someone else starts it.

[gaunt halo]

yippeee thank u!

[delicate elm]

Just chop/mix/stir your one thang each round and get the finished cooked product when it's done. 🙌🏻

This is especially nice for the recipes you can only get at certain events like Luna new year that others may have missed out on. 💜

[half edge]

Where do I find briar daisies?

[urban bridge]

Briar Daisies can be found on cliffs and mountains throughout Bahari Bay, such as Pulsewater Plains, Proudhorn Pass, Ancient Aquaduct and on top of Pavel Mines at any time of day.
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Briar_Daisy

[mortal quartz]

They can be found any time of day :) The wiki forageable pages at some point used to only specify "day, night" when it meant "any time," and a later editor took that to mean "only Day, Night, not Morning or Evening." Thanks for the heads-up so I can fix that page...

[floral bear]

What it the most cost effective recipe to cook for yourself to bring some food with you when going gathering? Cost effective meaning which ingredients are used etc.

[marsh drum]

this depends on your focus level!

[mortal quartz]

Assuming you can make use of 225/337* food, steak dinner is imo THE most cost-effective recipe for solo cooking. It takes any meat, wheat, spice sprouts, and butter.

Meaty stir fry gives 250/375* focus and is also pretty good, if you grow rice and have tomatoes or carrots to spare. (As a bonus, you can chop up Bahari crabs for the meat if you want XD)

If your focus bar won't fit those focus amounts yet, then hearty vegetable soup (100/150*) is the next best. You can use carrots or tomatoes, spice sprouts, and mountain morels as the ingredients.

Palian onion soup (also 100/150*) is another good option for early game, if you grow onions. It's just onion, flour, and garlic.

More solo cooking options and analysis here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qPbCKTJg8xYlR1Pw60ZkaXAERRkXaMC0r3UZZKLWQ_g/edit?gid=41849516#gid=41849516 ("What to Eat" tab)

However: any time you can split the ingredients and/or the work with another player, that will always make things faster and more cost-effective :) So, invite a neighbor to cook with you, if that's something that works for your playstyle.

Steak Dinner is fantastic for 2 players: one person starts the recipe (meat), chops sprouts, and handles the flips. The other one rolls the dough (wheat), bakes the bread, and mixes the herb butter. (As the wheat-butter-oven person, I like to start the oven baking, mix the butter, then grab the bread when it finishes - very satisfying little dance :D)

[gaunt halo]

is there an issue with bacon stuffed mushrooms?

[marsh drum]

what are you having issues with?

[gaunt halo]

it says crab but it needs meat instead?

[teal oyster]

crabmeat?

[marsh drum]

oh yes that is a bug right now! you can see the recipes it effects here! #🍳│cooking-foraging message

[marsh drum]

also you can use the wiki to check what it's supposed to be if you need visuals :) https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Dishes

[gaunt halo]

aah thank u so much! i was trying to find out if it was something

[floral bear]

Thank you so much! 😊

[echo cradle]

Anybody on that would not mind teaching me how to team up to do some cooking. I would like to start completing the weekly pot luck challenge.

[hybrid violet]

i can

[echo cradle]

@hybrid violet waiting on you my in game name is UrsiUrs Urilla

[teal oyster]

steamed fish is so fast to make 😄 perfect for weekly togethers and it odnt require stockpiling zeki items

[mortal quartz]

But it does require specifically fishing for Bahari bream 🫠

I guess if you need to do your fishing weeklies anyway, you might as well fish for that, if you're just looking to minimize time spent and aren't worried about anything else.

but for my time/effort I like fish stew - same properties (fast, no bought ingredients, no produce), can use any fish you have, and it's a good return on investment

If it's cheap fish, you've got fishing buffs/gap-filler focus food. If it's expensive fish, you've made extra money \o/

[teal oyster]

yeay but then i struggle to chose which fish to use XD

plus i have some towers of bahary bream at least lmao

[mortal quartz]

I just wish it didn't completely ignore the value of the green onion and ginger when calculating the sell price of the dish. It basically only counts the fish and the oil 😦

So you put in 82g of starred fish, 44g of forageables, and 20g (bought) oil — 136g total — get back 72-108g.

Of course, you could eat it, too, but at 225 focus starred, I'm not sure it's worth the trouble.

(Meanwhile, fish stew with bahari bream, spice sprouts, and garlic, 111-165g per round.)

But, then again, "it's fun to make and I already have the mats anyway" is reason enough to cook, if you don't have pressing needs for the materials elsewhere.

[teal oyster]

Its fast and i got the stuff stockpiled and i dont have to keep running to zeki for flour or milk 😄

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, whatever works!

[sage urchin]

whats the best solo focus food for max focus bar? i only play sometimes and tend to not be around for parties. last time i played it was chili dumplings but idk if thats good to do solo

[marsh drum]

here's a few recommendations! #🍳│cooking-foraging message

[mortal quartz]

Chili oil dumplings are okay-ish to make solo - maybe a little on the tedious side? If you like the focus amount they give, then they're alright in terms of cost-effectiveness as long as you use carrots or tomatoes as the vegetable.

You might also give cabbage rolls or spicy stir fry a try, if you want something that gives more focus than steak dinner. Cabbage rolls has no timed stirs or anything, so it can be a little easier to manage solo as long as you're comfortable chopping green onion.

[urban bridge]

I have been at max focus forever now and I don't like cooking so I still make starred chili oil dumplings if cooking solo, they give 525 focus and are quick, easy and cheap to make, the only thing you need to purchase is the oil, and it's like 20 gold per.

[mortal quartz]

What's your usual star rate on those when you cook solo?

[urban bridge]

Once in a blue moon I'll get one unstarred but not very often. But my cooking is over 300 so maybe that plays a part in it.

I wouldn't bother if I got many unstarred

But I do use only starred produce, meats and spice sprouts when making it.

[teal oyster]

cake party cake starred and unstarred so low effort so muhc focus

[mortal quartz]

Solo, cakes are expensive and take forever, so they're probably not the best choice in this case

[teal oyster]

ik but i still keep suggesting it to everyone

[light quiver]

i wanted to ask for some advice: i hear that cooking parties are the best way to level up but if i wanted to do some work solo on leveling, what is the best way for me to do that? cooking is kind of awful for me but i’m a completionist

[marsh drum]

Ren has a really good xp explanation ! #🍳│cooking-foraging message

[light quiver]

thank you!

[mortal quartz]

TL;DR, campfire cooking: set up 4-5 campfires in a ring and rotate in the center. If you like to fish, grill your unstarred common and uncommon fish for a chance at bonus gold. If you are a prolific hunter and have more meat than you can feed your glow worms, grill that.

[mortal quartz]

However, this is (obviously) pretty tedious, and may also be awful for you...

Mind if I ask what it is about cooking that gives you trouble?

[light quiver]

i dont typically have issues with tedious tasks but for some reason when i was set with the fact that i had to get to level 20 cooking to unlock muujin bahari for the bundles (i recently realized that i could cook it with someone else so i didnt have to unlock it) but cooking was my last skill to get to level 10. i think its repetitivness is just more bad because im stuck in the same spot.
ideally i'd like to get in some cooking parties but more lowkey ones where its less time and lower stakes but i havent been playing the game long enough to build up a good stock of items for any readily party cooked dish yet lol

the campfire cooking is better for me than making hearty vegetable soup over and over somehow xD

[mortal quartz]

Oh, for sure

The rhythm of the campfire is much better for my brain if I can rotate around them lol

Just gotta watch your focus bar, because it'll bloopclunk you shockingly fast if you get into a groove! lol

[light quiver]

oh true! plus, i immensely enjoy hunting, so thats not a problem on gathering resources. and now i know to put meat in my glow worm farms 😳

[mortal quartz]

:D

Prints money, 29g an hour (per farm) while you sleep!

For unstarred sernuk and muujin meat, at least

(anything worth 11g or 16g will do it)

[light quiver]

its for money??? i have so much to learn

130 hours has taught me nothing

[mortal quartz]

Yep. Put in 16g of stuff (1 sernuk meat), receive 1 glow worm (25g) + 4 HB fertilizer (20g)
16g -> 45g in one hour of processing

You taught me something, too! I did not realize that the unlock requirement for muujin Bahari was level 20 cooking now

For me it unlocked with the Watcher questline, but they changed that last patch it seems

[mortal quartz]

For money or for cheap (but not fast) glow worms/fertilizer

[light quiver]

i started playing at an unfortunate time it seems

[marsh drum]

the other option you can do along with that is just mass prepping your preferred focus food

[marsh drum]

yeah it was to adjust the difficulty of ||the Subira quest|| to be easier, and tbh i have mixed feelings about that overall but good to know

[mortal quartz]

Honestly, given that you can hit 20 cooking within a cake party or two, I don't think it's too onerous, but it's definitely a bit more challenging if you would rather play solo

[light quiver]

you can do that???

maybe i just need to give it up and participate in a party lol

[marsh drum]

i personally want that quest to be hard like it originally was

[mortal quartz]

Yep. 340 base XP per round, plus whatever your focus bonus is if you keep yourself fed the whole time

Every level from level 9 up is 5,000 XP total

So, 15 rounds of cakes will grant you a level even without focus bonus

Cake parties are usually anywhere from 30 to 100 (some are more, but that's... really a lot)

50 or 60 rounds usually takes about an hour, less if people stay focused and do their stuff in a timely fashion (but can be more if the party is disorganized)

And as a bonus, 60 rounds of cake sells for about 44k lol (depending on star rate)

[mortal quartz]

Given how much persistent angst I saw about the initial difficulty of the quest, and how long I was personally stalled on it as someone who was super nervous about cooking with others — and basically got carried through it by some generous friends-of-friends — I feel like it was a good change. Especially since that questline now has so much other stuff locked behind it.

[light quiver]

its only 5000 and doesnt stack after 10?

[mortal quartz]

Assuming I understood your question, yes, XP per level is constant from level 9 up.

[light quiver]

yes sorry i didnt say that quite right

[marsh drum]

oh i do understand why it was! im a fiend for the cooking challenges though and since i had been playing before her quest was added i didnt have any issue with it i do wish you still had to cook something for it instead of just collecting ingredients just cause i think it makes it more interesting

[mortal quartz]

(that said: I think it would be cool if a VERSION of that quest, the hard one, was available somewhere for "extra credit" or something....)

[marsh drum]

oh yeah adding the "optional: cook..." part would be so cool!

[mortal quartz]

lol remember when muujin temporarily disappeared from the game, and there were folks who set up parties to cook muujin Bahari with as many people as possible to stretch the existing meat stashes?

That was a wild month or two

[marsh drum]

i forgot about that LMAO

[frigid coral]

anybody want to team up in-game to cook a stack of chili oil dumplings quick?

[gaunt halo]

what do i need for fish stew to maximize profit heheh

[teal oyster]

Rens input

[gaunt halo]

bites hello what is the best fish for fish stew to make most profitable

[mortal quartz]

Most profitable for the fish person, or most profitable for the guests chopping garlic?

[gaunt halo]

for the fish per

is there a difference between for fish person and guests?

[mortal quartz]

In profit (improvement over materials)? There is, unavoidably. If you put in a starred cloudfish (sells for 667g) and unstarred heat root (sells for 60g, also used in both sushi and poke), and you get back the same 297g⭐ x3 (891g total) as the people chopping one garlic (46g vendor cost)... yes, there is a difference.

The thing with fish parties is that the people who are carrying the bulk of the dish value are getting back more than they would if they just sold the fish without cooking with it, but it helps a lot if a community has multiple people putting in fish.

You can check out the numbers here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CqV_SHjfqaYcGcfqg4aVp21tYZACUDNMHYkTo9Wyu-8/edit?gid=1629226071#gid=1629226071
Change the fish and the spice on the Unstarred Any Fish tab.

Or if you'd rather do your own arithmetic, this infographic made by Sennel Deuragonov is a very good comparison:

[gaunt halo]

explodes holy moly this isso cool

[mortal quartz]

For me personally, since fish stew is only asking garlic from the guests, I feel perfectly comfortable using it for "odds and ends" rare glow worm fish.

[gaunt halo]

wait whats odds and ends rare glow worm fish which ones are those

[mortal quartz]

All of the ones in the bottom two categories on that chart, plus Midnight Paddlefish.

Top tier rares are cloudfish and blue spotted rays (most common fish used if someone says "rare")

Mid-tier rares are hypnotic moray, Kenli's' carp, and stormray. And the poor midnight paddlefish is the cheapest glow worm rare fish.

(There are also rare fish you can catch with regular worms, but they are worth much less. IMO those don't produce enough revenue to make organizing a party worthwhile.)

[zealous arch]

Hello, I have a question if I didn’t got the creamy carrot soup in any of the 2 quests that can give it what can I do? 🤣🥲

[mortal quartz]

Did you get your library card from Caleri? If yes, read the book near where Kenyatta studies in the evening

(you can read it any time)

[zealous arch]

No, what I did was to join a friend who has the recipes to cook them so I can do the achievements but I want to get the recipes so I might do that because I don’t have the library card yet

[mortal quartz]

Might be helpful? not sure
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Manners,_Manners

Reading the book is the only way to learn the recipe

[zealous arch]

I think I didn’t receive the library card … at all 🥲

[marsh drum]

its not a proper item you are given /gen

[mortal quartz]

If you are able to read the books (the physical interactable items) in the library, then you have a library card

[sharp spindle]

anyone know when you over prep something with coocking do you get your stuff back

[sinful orchid]

you do not get it back as far as I'm aware

[languid crag]

Question about cooking - If you only have some of the required star quality ingredients when making a dish, will it default fill in the missing ones with normal quality while cooking? Or will it not let you finish cooking the dish? I know I have plenty of normal quality of the ingredients.

[sinful orchid]

it will prioritize using star quality ingredients but if you don't have it, it will use normal quality

[native horizon]

Is anyone else struggling with the Fish Stew recipe to register in the achievements section?
I made it time and time again and have gotten it as a golden star quality multiple times (alone and also with others) but it just refuses to register and remains unlocked for some reason... :(

[teal oyster]

U sure its not another similar looking dish?

Like idk bouilabasse for example

[native horizon]

You might be right! let me try making that one!

[lucid peak]

Question about the Social Chef achievement, do both myself and the friend I'm cooking the recipes with need the recipe too to count for the achievements?

[teal oyster]

no

though u do need to have at least someone to start it (who can even log of afterwards probs_

[lucid peak]

okay, cause my friend isn't able to grab the food when it finishes after i start it and he's helping with cookign it too so it's isn't counting for either of us

[teal oyster]

he has to do a minigame step or start recipe to also get food if noone else got it u cooked it solo

[lucid peak]

okay, does mixing at the end count?

[teal oyster]

it should

but if he didnt get anything then i gues it doesnt

[lucid peak]

okay we'll try him doing one of the cutting too, thank you!!

[thorn inlet]

Where to get fish stew(?) Recipe

[teal oyster]

fish bahary bay unstarred with regular worms

[thorn inlet]

Huh, wasn't expecting a recipe to be in da water

[mortal quartz]

If it's actually doing a stir step, yes. If it's only adding ingredients to something, no. (This also applies to oven roles (besides starting recipes): to get credit you have to take the completed sub-ingredient OUT of the oven, not just start it going.)

[analog mulch]

I have been in Heklas tent but it doesn't let me cook Mushroom Soup even tho I read the recipe.... why?

[tawny heart]

You're either missing a cooking station or an ingredient is the 1st thing that comes to mind. Do you see the recipe on your list when at the stove? How is the game not letting you cook cream of mushroom soup?

[long jungle]

so im new to the game but i hear that people do like cake parties where they cook cake together .. and people tell me its very profitable .. but when i look on recipe and compare ingredients value with sell value it dosent seem like its profitable ? what am i missing :S

[feral plume]

You can push it around depending on what you out in there. 1 person usually only does 1 task too, So I might be respons for (let's say) sweet leaf along with 2 others. That's only the sweet leaf cost for me, nothing else. That's the profitable part. Even those who provide fruits get gold out of it

[mortal quartz]

What Faeronyn said! Cake parties generally get 10-18 people together to split the ingredients, but everyone who participates in the recipe by completing a minigame gets the whole 3 cakes at the end. There's a link the wiki's cake party guide in the pins, if you'd like an overview of how it works.

[long jungle]

ooooh ... so u show up with like full bag of sweet leaf and just cut that ? or can it take from ur storage ?

[mortal quartz]

Either one - it will take from your storage if you don't have any in your bag. I usually put the amount for the party in my bag anyway, so I can keep track of how many rounds it's been/whether I've done my task for that round. (Note that if you have starred in your regular storage, it will take those before any unstarred in your bag!)

If you're interested in the nitty-gritty math of it, check the Apples tab on this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CqV_SHjfqaYcGcfqg4aVp21tYZACUDNMHYkTo9Wyu-8/edit?gid=2072901450#gid=2072901450

[long jungle]

nice one ty ^^

[mystic barn]

Dunno what I am missing.... cause it won't add the chopped meat I just slaved over this chopping block for ; v;

[marsh drum]

you need to cook the meat in the oven before adding it to the dish!

[mystic barn]

Thank

Now I can say I know what it feels like to run around a kitchen stressing about something burning

[marsh drum]

LMAO

[analog mulch]

When I search from within the stovetop, it just... isn't in the list

Unrelated....
I watched some of the Great British Bakepff today and discovered the Celbration Cake is a real thing?! And they made Petit Fours and I actually thought they said the wrong number so.... take that for what you will

[tawny heart]

Weird. I can hop on and we can cook it together if you need, I have the recipe

[analog mulch]

Thanks for the offer, I can't rn but will @ you when I'm available sometime if that is cool, with you?

[tawny heart]

Yeah, that's fine

[tawny heart]

Oh yeah, but actually Petit Four is French: it's not the number 4, petit fours are tiny lil cakes called like this cause they used to be baked with the residual heat in ovens, which are called "fours" in French. Petit fours are also called "mignardise" or "fancies"

[analog mulch]

Yup, I learned that too haha. Crazy that my brain is so full of Palia that I tried to correct the TV show hosted by like... actual bakers tho lol!

[mortal quartz]

This might be a silly question, but do you have one of the "spoon level" filters selected, by any chance?

[mortal quartz]

This is also why "petite fives" is a minor pet peeve of mine lol

[stable oak]

Hi, could anyone help me cook muujin for bundle?

[fluid sapphire]

Is it the muujin bahari you need?

[analog mulch]

possibly, i will check

[hearty drift]

Do you think we'll get new recipies? I saw a burger, a sliced roast, and a pot pie. Which new animal do you think will provide said meat? Or older animal. The new ones seem rather amphibian

[marsh drum]

oh im sure we are! there also looked to be new crops

im very very excited cooking is my favourite skill and the food lore is just too good

[analog mulch]

Pumpkins and maybe grapes spotted?

[teal oyster]

I also thought grapes but its more likely beans cuz what can u cook with grapes

[marsh drum]

jams, desserts, charcuterie, as well as other savory dishes

[teal oyster]

😮 grapes are used in cooking

[tawny heart]

They do talk about drinking contests, so wine also isn't out of the question imo

[teal oyster]

wait maybe we can make our own vinegar if its grapes
normal poeple grapes are for making wine vinegar is the waste product
duhscape grapes are for vinegar wine is the waste product

[slim pine]

Hello 👋🏻 Does anyone happen to have the sushi recipe and be online right now? I'm trying to help a player get the starred sushi achievement but it's not working. I thought I had the recipe but I don't...

[teal oyster]

looks like someone has to fish outside bubbles in a pond alot XD

[ruby mesa]

does anyone wanna make some focus food?

[raw orchid]

@slim pine I have it if you still need it

I need to make a bunch of high lvl focus food if anyone wants to join

[slim pine]

Oh thank you for the offer. I ended up fishing up the recipe after only an hour 😊

[raw orchid]

congrats! that's awesome!

[tawny trellis]

is chapaa masala broken right now ?

[granite valve]

hey is there someone who has these two recipes from the Luna New Year Event and would be willing to cook them with me in star quality for decorating my house?

• Mushroom Dumpling Soup
• Rice Cake Soup

[cold tree]

i have both recipes

[granite valve]

could you please add me ingame then?

[cold tree]

Request sent, ign is Luna Naelynn

do i need to bring ingredients?

[granite valve]

only what you need to start the recipe, I should have the rest

[mild turtle]

I've been trying forever to get the sashimi recipe, anyone have any tips or tricks to get it? It's the last one I need!

[cold tree]

okay, i'm ready whenever, it says your plot is locked

[granite valve]

returning to homeplot now

[mortal quartz]

If you're going for the sashimi recipe, it can be fished up anywhere in Bahari rivers with no bait, any time of day, but ONLY outside of the nodes/bubbles. If you're fishing up silvery minnows and rosy bitterlings, you're in the right spot — just keep trying, as it's a pretty low drop rate.

If you want to make each fish take a smaller amount of time, you can make use of the various buffs that make fish bite faster:

• Fishing with Friends proximity buff (when someone else catches a fish near you, stacks up to 5x)
• Trout Dinner
• Major Hook Time Booster

Oh, and the water in Flooded Fortress is rivers!

[mild turtle]

Thanks, I'll keep trying!

[mortal quartz]

pompoms Hope you can snag it soon :)

[mild turtle]

You are my new favorite person lol. The one place I never tried was in flooded fortress and I got it just as my buffs were about to wear off!

[mortal quartz]

All the rivers are the exact same loot, I'm afraid, but FF definitely is nice and convenient!

[rugged wolf]

an someone teach me the ways of foraging dari cloves? i find them from time to time and know where most spawn BUT i have questions. can only 1 be on the map at a time? does a new one spawn after 1 despawns? do they only spawn a certain time of day? help

[mortal quartz]

Dari Cloves

• they can spawn anywhere a sweet leaf can spawn, at any time of day
• TYPICALLY only one on the map at a time (per server)
• 5 minute despawn time after first picked
• 30 minute respawn timer (starts at full despawn) until the next one spawns
  The respawn timer is per server, and even for servers that came up at the same time (e.g., after maintenance), the timer "creeps" due to differences in initial pick times.

If you stay on one server, you can reliably set a timer to go sweep again.

Otherwise, server-hopping with a group who can cover the map with trackers can be pretty effective, especially if you can hop around regions.

You can also sometimes find dari in the rummage pile. IF the person who found it has already got all the quests and recipes out of that pile, everyone else who has also met that condition (and hasn't gotten that pile yet that day) can come loot a dari from it, too :) We've gotten a dozen people a dari clove each that way before, pretty awesome.

Lastly, you can buy them with foraging medals, 12 medals each. That's 8 dari cloves per week from weeklies, plus more from leveling up foraging. XP-boosted flow tree chops can be quite effective; next-best in my experience is just picking everything in sight in the course of your regular running around.

[golden gyro]

So quick question how do I unlock this food recipe call boullillabaisse or seafood stew I try looking it up and it's not really helpful I heard it's rare to get it and it might be hard to get the recipe

[marsh drum]

Once you complete the Freshwater Bundle in the Night Sky temple you will be given the recipe https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Bouillabaisse

The wiki lists where all the recipes can be found if you need any others :)

[golden gyro]

Ooh ok ty so much

[misty pagoda]

hey fellow palians wanting to know whats the best dish to cook that gives the most xp when making it, out of all my skills cooking is still under 20 and wanting to lvl it up

[tawny heart]

Going to cooking parties helps a lot, that's what I did. Tbf my goal was making money so I went to cake parties and those level your cooking fast. I wouldn't recommend making celebration cake by yourself though cause it's a lot of ingredients. Since I leveled up fast I can't really recommend specific recipes, but making sure tour focus bar isn't empty while you cook is a must so you get that focus bonus for more xp

[misty pagoda]

thank you so much ill have a look around

[mortal quartz]

I agree with Astrea: Celebration Cakes at cake parties are by far the most efficient in terms of XP per dish vs. XP per time. A well-run cake party can finish the recipe in 60 seconds or less, and range from 30 to 100 rounds (times completing the recipe), typically. It gives 340 base XP per round, plus your focus bonus if you keep yourself fed. It's also pretty good money.

**Muujin Bahari **and Lucky Braised Fish both give more XP per round (380 and 540 base XP, respectively) but they take much longer:

Muujin Bahari is rarely less than a minute per round at even the best-run parties; 90 seconds is more typical. It's decent for money.

LBF, meanwhile has timed flips that mean you CANNOT complete it in less than two minutes, even if you get all the prep work done very quickly. (The fish has to braise!) Not really recommended for money, either, as the dish sell value for some reason completely leaves out the 5 green onion and 2 ginger that go into it.

Still, the latter two can be nice for variety.

So, that's the heavy hitters... but don't discount **campfire cooking **as a source of XP, too. If you are doing a lot of fishing, consider grilling up and common or uncommon unstarred fish you were planning to sell anyway. With 4 campfires, you can get the time per fish down to about 5 seconds. It gives 20 base XP per. Not as good as cakes (4 base XP/s vs. almost 6), and not as profitable, but worth doing imo.

But tbh cooking anything with other people (to make it cheaper and faster) will be a nice way to level up, so you can always just make your preferred focus food with some neighbors and go about it that way.

[tawny heart]

Yeah a while back I used to go to weekly cake parties with a group where most cake would take us between 30 to 40 seconds to complete, that was awesome. Also grilled fish give a decent amount of worms/glow worms so you can kill 2 birds with 1 stone

[misty pagoda]

Thank you so much. I’ve been playing since the game came out and didn’t really do the cake parties at the time and I’ve been away from the game for about 6months to a year so trying to get the things completed I didn’t do before the new update comes out.

[errant python]

Can I help cook anyone

[mighty dust]

can I ask a dumb question. what do yall do with all the dishes you cook? do you expend enough energy to eat them all? do you sell them?

[errant python]

You can sell or hold on to them

Only one you can set out is starred dishes

By the way there is no dumb questions

[mighty dust]

I've been holding onto them, but it seems like I'm cooking faster than I can eat so they're piling up. I was just wondering if it was common to sell them like other stuff.

[errant python]

You need food to keep your energy bar up doing stuff like cooking and others so you gain experience points

I sell them if you want but sometime people will requested food items

[crisp tundra]

in my case, i cook in BULK, so i can sell the non star ones n keep the starred ones, then display 1 type of food each as far as my counters or tables could hold

and i get to eat the extras whenever my focus gets low

[mortal quartz]

If you are NOT expending enough energy to eat what you are making - many reasons this could happen - I just wanna double check: what is your focus bonus percentage? (you can check this by hovering over your focus bar on the Inventory pane)

100% is the maximum (i.e., double XP on everything you earn XP for as long as you have enough focus to cover it), and the higher your bonus, naturally, the faster you will go through your focus bar

Of course, it depends what you're doing and what food you're cooking - like @teal oyster always touts a cake party as lasting him for months, but a level grinding friend group of mine needs several cake parties a WEEK to keep up with their focus usage. XD

(Me, I cannot fathom eating something that gives only 4 focus per gold eaten, or having to wait until I've lost a chunk of focus bonus before I eat, so, I sell my cakes, especially if they're made with apples to purposely make them more valuable.)

[left shell]

The cooked dishes don't seem to sell for very much, comparted to the cost of ingredients. I want to raise my cooking skill, but I already have more food than I need for focus.

[mortal quartz]

They don't if you're cooking alone, but if you split the ingredients with others, some of the recipes can be pretty profitable, especially those that use more valuable ingredients and/or a larger quantity of them all together

see here for more discussion: #🍳│cooking-foraging message

[analog mulch]

update from when I asked about Mushroom Soup… Apparently that is actually Cream of Mushroom soup? Just a different name ig

[round rampart]

Is there any specific food that gives more xp than others or is it all just the same xp.

[marsh drum]

here's the best explanation for it! #🍳│cooking-foraging message

[round rampart]

Thank you.

[mortal quartz]

Other than a few rare exceptions, kitchen-cooked recipes give XP amounts proportional to the number of minigame steps they have (chop, stir, flip, roll, mix, and bake) x 20. For example, fish stew has 2 minigame steps: chop garlic, and stir the soup. It gives 40 base XP.

So, yes, they vary, and obviously the more complex recipes give more XP than simpler ones.

All campfire recipes give 20 base XP.

The wiki has a chart of all the XP amounts: https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Experience#Cooking

[analog mulch]

Any other Switch players having issues with not being able to move after using a Prep Station? Usually specifically if I cook multiple meals in a row/one really long meal. And only cooking alone, if I'm in a party it's fine

[indigo temple]

is there anyone in here who can make the following? i have all ingredients just not the recipes and they're the last things i need for vaults ;;

• trout dinner
• muujin bahari

[hybrid violet]

I can. Are you online rn?

[indigo temple]

i am!

[long jungle]

so im planning on cooking shepps pie for like 30 times or so now ... if 1-2 people wanna join feel free to join ^^

i enjoy cooking so dont want too many hehe 😄

[granite valve]

when a cooking party where you planned to take 1 role turns around and you end up as the impropmtu host with up to 6 roles 😂

It was chaos, but in the end we managed.
If any of my amazing Bahari Mujin Crew from today reads this: THANK YOU

[silver arch]

Hello, i need help making muujin Bahari, but i don't haeve the recipe. Can someone help me please ? ( sorry if my english is bad, i use google translate)

[hybrid violet]

sure, whats your in game name?

[silver arch]

Frozenovaa

thank you so much !

[odd gate]

When will palia be available on PS5

[honest mountain]

i think its may 13th?

[granite valve]

I'm curios is there a list of all the dishes that have fish in them what focus and gold value they have depending on the fish?

[teal oyster]

yes there is i think ren got it

[mortal quartz]

Focus amounts don't change with varying ingredients, only with whether the dish is starred or not (starred food gives 150% of the base focus amount)

This message has both a spreadsheet (which includes gold amounts for all of the "Any Fish" dishes for ALL fish types, via dropdown) and a chart with gold amounts for the top several tiers of rare and epic fish:
#🍳│cooking-foraging message

None of the fish dishes are (in my estimation) particularly efficient as focus food. Fish are expensive, even the cheap ones.

But they are included in my What to Eat spreadsheet anyway if you'd like to see how they measure up, at least for solo cooking: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qPbCKTJg8xYlR1Pw60ZkaXAERRkXaMC0r3UZZKLWQ_g/edit?gid=41849516#gid=41849516

I haven't done revenue analysis comparing different fish for the specific-fish dishes (e.g., fried catfish dinner, bouillabaisse, trout dinner) but I suppose I could, if there's demand for it?

[granite valve]

I was just wondering if I should sell certain fishes and keep others for maybe throwing a cooking party at some point to then sell the dishes made from them

[mortal quartz]

For me personally, the cutoff is rare fish caught with glow worms on up. Those turn out to be about equal to cakes when made into sashimi/fish stew/fish tacos. (Dishes made with epic fish will obviously be worth a lot more.)

Basically, anything in that chart by Sennel Deuragonov that I linked above (plus, arguably, midnight paddlefish).

Anything caught with no bait or worms, or common/uncommon glow worm fish, can all be either sold as-is if the fish are already starred, or unstarred ones can be grilled first, if you want a chance at the grilled fish gaining +50% value if they turn out starred.

I use whatever the cheapest/easiest fish available is if I'm making a dish I intend to eat, like for fishing buffs. No-bait fish from your home pond is simple enough for the any-fish ones, and I like rainbow trout (Kilima rivers, no bait, any time) for trout dinner.

Since fishing buff food doesn't benefit at all from being starred (buff is the exact same strength/duration), using unstarred stuff is just fine.

It's actually kind of annoying for me if the fishing buff food turns out starred, because then I can't fill requests using it

Oh: if you're going for the dish-completion accomplishments, or like to help others with them, you'll want to keep a few of the following in star quality:

• Bahari bream
• any trout (I like rainbow trout)
• any bass (I recommend Bahari bass, but you might have black sea bass on hand)
• any catfish (I recommend Kilima catfish)

[granite valve]

Thank you so much for your answer 💜
Will help me clear some storage space, since I'm a terrible hoarder who always thinks I should keep a certain stack of everything in case I'll need it

[granite valve]

by the way I took a peak at some of the spreadsheets there. Remembers me of another game I used to play for over a year where I made similar stuff.
We called it spreadsheet magic, so thank you for doing the speadsheet magic for Palia

[mortal quartz]

When I started making spreadsheets for the game, I knew I was well and truly in it XD

(meant I was invested enough to want to spend time figuring out systems for myself)

But almost all of the stuff I've done is built on foundations laid and questions asked by lots of other people

[granite valve]

yes but you collected all that info together, wrote it down and share your knowledge with others

[civic talon]

So I cant make placeable ramen????

[granite valve]

yes you can
You get the recipe for ramen when reaching cooking level 3
Then you only need to make a star dish
That one you can place in your home

[civic talon]

ive tried making a star dish!! but i dont have any star quality eggs and idk how to get them :c

[granite valve]

there are no star quality eggs in the game

[civic talon]

what am i missing then? i had everything else star quality

[granite valve]

but not all ingredients need to be starred. Sometimes it's just bad rng that you end up with non-star quality even if you have the best ingredients, cook fast and make no mistakes

[civic talon]

ohhhh

[civic talon]

ok thank you!

[granite valve]

you're welcome, keep trying
If you want, I can hop on and we try together until we get it starred

[civic talon]

Thank you but thats alright!! I'm a persistent gal, ill get there 😤

[honest mountain]

looking for someone that has the mushroom soup recipe i need a mushroom soup for a quest just too cook up a quick batch

[naive ravine]

if you still need this, I’m happy to cook it with you

[honest mountain]

sorry i was at the store i do still need to do that !!!

[naive ravine]

no worries, just send me a fr and ping me here when you would like to cook!

[honest mountain]

we can do it now if you would like?

[tropic tendon]

Is there a way for me to use my starred veggies without using starred spices? I thought I was doing myself a favor of upgrading all my veggie seeds but now all I have is quality veggies and no quality spices to cook with. Any recommendations are helpful

[teal oyster]

ye slockbox ur starred ones and it will allow u to select unstarred if u have them

there really should make the checkbox have a prefer unstarred option ...

abnd default to lowest gold value ingredient and make it so u can selects tarred and unstarred

but alas they chose this super nonsensical way of doing thigns (probs so poeple dont use their starred epic fish by accident or osmething

[granite valve]

I totally don't understand why when you make a normal dish you can't switch to star ingredients, if you lack normal ones
It easily allows you to use unstarred ingredients in a dish where star was selected, why not the other way round???

[teal oyster]

exactly but hey it works the way it does and we have to nonstop click allow starred

[tropic tendon]

Thanks, I did not think of using the lockbox although it should have been obvious.

[mortal quartz]

slockbox

[teal oyster]

Ment to type yeS Lockbox

[mortal quartz]

I know, just giggling at the result XD

[dark crater]

Whats the best ingredients to use for a fish stew party?

[teal oyster]

depends on party type u want money fish stew or consumptioon fish stew

[dark crater]

money fish stew

[mortal quartz]

See the spreadsheet and chart in this message: #🍳│cooking-foraging message

[golden gyro]

Hey guys I'm just wondering where can I get sushi recipe? All ik is that I need to use glow worms??

And it's not only that I've been trying to do the ponds where the bubbles are at idk if I'm doing it right or what

[teal oyster]

recipes outside bubbles only

same for quest items
(build an entire monument of starred fish to remember himself of that costly mistake)

[ember lily]

It's really rare. It took me nearly 5irl days of fishing a couple hours each day.

Bubbles are starred fish though, so no bubbles.

[golden gyro]

Oooh ok

Is there a faster way to get it then? Or it just takes time-

[ember lily]

There are two other ways to get sushi though. One is coming with someone (I can do that for you in a couple hours)

The second is befriend reth. He will give you a sushi in the mail at some point. I think friendship 3?

[teal oyster]

recipe is just fihs alot till u get luckyw ith glowrosm in a pond outside bubbles
there are things u can do to fish faster i gues

[ember lily]

That's how I got sushi for my bundle anyway, I found the recipe within 10 minutes after lol

[golden gyro]

I'm already on level 3 of reth and he didn't get me recipe??

[golden gyro]

Alright thanks I'll try

[teal oyster]

recipe nope only fishing but i fu just need sushi itself theres cookign together and reth gives u appaerently is what he ment

[ember lily]

He won't give recipe, but the food itself

[golden gyro]

OH!

[teal oyster]

like go blackmarket poeple always fish there if not server hop by going out of it and back in a couple of times get 5x fish with someone buff go to the pond
i find fishermans brew always helps alot with reeling in both succeschances and less interrutps so that speeds things up
and some faster fishing boosts like troutdiner but trouts are rare(i really should leech those form a cooking party) and mayor hooktime booster

like all faster fishing buffs make it sooo fast

[golden gyro]

Okay here's the thing he never gave me sushi. And I'm close to level 4 with him so idk if it's a glitch/bug or what

Alright I'll try that

[ember lily]

It might be a random quest then. But DuhScape had the right idea, fish your soul out

[teal oyster]

if u really need sushi u can make it with someone

[ember lily]

Or, if you're free in like an hour ish I can party up and we can cook together

[golden gyro]

Alright thanks I just need sushi for the temple

[mortal quartz]

It's not from one of his friendship quests, but a found item quest. Quest spoilers: ||A Device in the Hand, starts from finding this item: https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Small_Handheld_Device ||

[golden gyro]

Ooo ok ty!

[granite valve]

@golden gyro
You will get 1 Suhsi in star Quality from Reth that you could place as decoration in your home.

There is another quest where you potentially can get an unstarred version for the bundle.
||When Tamala tells you to talk to 3 people, one of those has to be Jel for him to gift the Sushi to you
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Mysterious_Brew||

or last method, once you got sushi once through ANY of these ways, you can always request unstarred version from other players again

[golden gyro]

Once again I didn't get any 1 star sushi from reth or unless I have to be a higher up level with him as for tamala I still on level 1 or 2 with her so thanks for the info I'll try that aswell

[mortal quartz]

The starred sushi is from the quest I was talking about, not friendship

[golden gyro]

OH!

[mortal quartz]

The one for Tamala is also a found item quest

[golden gyro]

okay I get it now thanks guys it means alot ^^

If I ask on general I'm pretty sure no one won't help me like befoe so I appreciate it

[teal oyster]

cmon lonewolf this is the perfect oppurtunity to work on ur social chef achivement

[golden gyro]

It says in tamalas room and I don't have her key I need to reach for level 3 correct? Or unless I can go to her room without one

[golden gyro]

Yeah ik but sense finding the recipe gonna take a min I just need one rq for the temple :T

[teal oyster]

uhm its random so it can take very long or be very fast but if u use the speedfishing tips i gave ya its decently fast 10min or something

[marsh drum]

in order to go into her room you'll need to be level 3 friendship with her

[golden gyro]

I figure as much

[ember lily]

I just got home. Do you want to party up and we'll make it? I have the other recipes too, except mujinn bahari

[golden gyro]

Oh I'm not on palia now but i have alot of info and help so no I'm good thanks tho!

If I need help with other recipie and stuff I yet you know when we can be in a party ^^

[sinful cave]

So what's the best way to level cooking? Need that muujin bahari recipie.

[mortal quartz]

Join cake parties! They are one of the fastest, most cost-efficient ways to earn cooking XP. Check #1143270926394335282 and PaliaParty.app (just a website, not an app you install) for publicly-posted ones.

ALSO, make sure you have your focus bonus % upgraded all the way at the Phoenix Shrine (where you originally spawned into the game).

Assuming your focus bonus is 100% (max upgrade), cake parties earn you 340 base XP + 340 focus bonus XP per round as long as you keep yourself fed — or, in other words, one cooking level every 7-8 rounds of cake.

The fastest way to gain cooking XP solo is probably campfire cooking (with a circle of 4-5 campfires). If you grill unstarred fish you were going to sell anyway, it's reasonably worthwhile, money-wise, too.

[sinful cave]

Yea I wish I had known about the Phoenix shrine earlier. Literally learned about it tonight after having bought all my writs and raised my focus to 800. May do the solo thing. Way to shy and afraid I'll mess up somehow to do cooking parties. Thanks for the info

[mortal quartz]

Definitely push your focus bonus up first before you go doing any serious grinding, then :)

In the meanwhile, cooking regular focus food (either by yourself or with a friend or two) will also contribute pretty well to your cooking level

[granite valve]

I feel you on that
I found out about the Phoenix shrine long after maxing the focus to 1.000 and having at least 15 levels each skill

[teal oyster]

I can tell u how to get over cooking party anxietys invthis channel ifvu need

[mortal quartz]

There are also beginner-friendly parties on PPA :)

[granite valve]

and it doesn't hurt to tell people you're a beginner. 😉

[dark crater]

does anyone know how many stations would one need for a fish stew or cake party or just cooking parties in general? i wanna make a plot so i can start doing parties but im unsure on how many stations I should do... including over prep

[granite valve]

if you want to host parties, you might also want to consider making "low sensory stations" for people who might feel overwhelmed easily when hearing or seeing other players cooking/running/jumping around all the time.

I have seen some designs with building blocks making a single "room" with one each of the 4 cooking stations inside and minimalistic decor.

Might also be a good idea to play around how far away stations can be for players to still be able to read the nearby chat of each other. Low sensory could be just out of reach for other cooking stations, but close enough to your own station to read your messages as host. Or still near enough to read everyone else.

If you allow overpreparation on meals, it's always good to have some extra stations standing around or at least in your inventory ready to be placed.

Fish Stew for example is normally a two people recipe max.
One starter who has the fish and heat root. The other cuts garlic.
So 1 stove and 1 prep station.
If you allow overprep, then you could have one starter and potentially 10 or more people cutting garlic, which means you will need 10 or more prep stations for them.

Same with cooking rice for a recipe like Sushi or Sashimi on multiple stoves.

[dark crater]

Omg i never thought about low sensory stations ill def take this into account! Thank u!!

[granite valve]

I can make screenshots next time I see a cooking plot with these stations.

I was also considering building my own cooking plot and maybe ask in #♿│accessibility-discussions what people need or don't need for their sensory issues.
For some it might be enough to be a bit further away.
I was at a cake party where a lot of people were running and jumping around because they got bored between their cooking steps.

And 3 people asked the host, if their stations could be transfered into another room so they could have a bit more of a quiet space

[dark crater]

i know if cooking parties become too long i can disassociate from the game 🫨but also if alot of people are constantly moving I get distracted😭ill def ask in the channel!!

[granite valve]

to be honest if I have an easy part at the start and then only have to wait for completion (especially if my role has overpreppers) I often tab out of the game and read/write on discord.
Or let a youtube video run on the second screen.

Cause I wouldn't be able to concentrate on this one thing for an hour without doing something else

[mortal quartz]

The range on Nearby chat is 50 meters!

[granite valve]

oh I have been at a cooking party earlier and noticed some people are able to cancel some cooking animations to be quicker?

I noticed the person beside me was able to cancel the animation when you torn on the stove, your character "claps" the right side.

Does someone know how you do this`?

[mortal quartz]

I was just taught how to do this a day or two ago!

uhh

for some reason when I tried to paste in the tutorial it got blocked, and I have no idea why

Stove Animation Cancel

aka Skip the "tap tap" animation for rice etc.

1. Have a bug bomb in your hand (or bow drawn, but that makes a lot of clatter)
2. Interact with stove (F)
3. Select "Make"
4. As you come out of the menu, press sprint keybind (Shift) to skip animation
5. Interact with stove (F)
6. Tap or hold to stir (right mouse button)

(Adjust the above for any keybind changes you may have made.)

ALSO works on controller:

(Don't forget the bug bomb!)
A, A, Y, A, A
(interact, make, sprint, interact, stir)

With thanks to Whiterose Is Me for teaching me how to do this at a sashimi party :)

oh, it's a particular kind of formatting that isn't permitted

the hyphen hash for small text

That's silly

I also learned while trying to figure out what the function of the Shift key was that if you double-tap Shift (or presumably your sprint keybind) it pulls you out of the aiming mode for bow and belt :D

[granite valve]

thanks I should try practice at home, sounds complicated first, but probably is just abit of training

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, just takes a little practice. It boils down to:

• bug bomb out
• open stove - Make - sprint key to skip animation - interact and make ingredient

[winter cosmos]

Where do I get apple pie recipe?!

[hasty wren]

The recipe can be obtained by reaching Friendship level 3 with Delaila. It's in her room.

[winter cosmos]

Ahhh thanks

[errant python]

Where do you usually get the fish stew recipe in Palia?

[peak trench]

Fish stew is obtained by fishing at Bahari Coast with worms at any time of day. It's a fairly rare recipe to reel in, I'm still struggling with it myself.

[errant python]

I see

[mortal quartz]

To add on what @peak trench said, make sure you're fishing OUTSIDE of the bubbles

[errant python]

Alright, I’ll start doing that. I thought fishing in the bubbles gave me better chances.

[tough raptor]

Fishing in bubbles just gives you a bit better chance of starred fish.

[errant python]

Ah, okay!

[teal oyster]

bubbles only not for quest items and recipes

[errant python]

I see

[signal acorn]

Hello! I've seen folks with flow trees growing on their own plots. How do you plant/acquire these? I've many hours into the game and have completed all main quests, and I'm now starting on bundles. TY!

[teal oyster]

bundle decor item gives random seed once per day

[signal acorn]

Where/how do you get the bundle decor item? Is this related to completing bundles in the night sky temple?

[teal oyster]

yes just keep comping em i think earthen bundle

[mortal quartz]

As DS said, flow trees seeds are from the reward statue you get from completing the Vault of the Roots bundles. You also have to complete a follow-up quest, The Gardener's New Oneness, for it to start giving you flow seeds. (Otherwise, it's only regular tree seeds.)

The statue gives you a random tree seed every day, with a 25% total chance of getting a flow tree seed (any of the 4 types)

But with some clever inventory finagling and some patience for server-hopping, you can get it to give you a flow tree seed every day. :)

[teal oyster]

I mean i got to many flow seeds anyways

[signal acorn]

Oh okay so AFTER I complete the Vault of the Roots bundles, THEN a new quest will appear "The Gardener's New Oneness" - in my list. Nice, I think I'm getting it finally 🙂

[inner lantern]

Hi is anyone free at the momment to help me with a quest I need to cook an item for one the ncp. But I don't have the recipe. I have the items needed just need someone who has the cream of mushrooms recipe to start it so I can help make it and take it when its done

[granite valve]

Hope this gets me through a full day of buying out Zeki's Underground shop

[teal oyster]

Bruh u need that many blackmarket items?

[granite valve]

I'm probably around 2 million already spent on my project every item in every color.
That's at least 245k to get all 3 Ravenwood paintings for example

So yeah a lot of cooking in between grinding for other materials to craft

[teal oyster]

I approve your project

[teal oyster]

How do u get all the makeshift every color then xd
Or the dyable one per person cows from a friendship quest

[granite valve]

well I obviously can't have the quest items
One because I can't replicate them but second they are also not modifiable.

And well Makeshift and also the Valley Sunrise and the pirate themes .... grinding.... lot's of more grinding

[teal oyster]

Cows are dyable xd

Hopefully u got plenty seasonable items stockpiled id love to see the plot with all of ur stuff

[granite valve]

well... I have to see if this one would be tradable since it's a plushie
Which means in the end I only need like 6 alternative accounts, grinding for that one quest and then trade with my main XD

[teal oyster]

Teach me hoe i want the cow in every color to

[granite valve]

well aside from the Makeshift Garden Chappa and the Makeshift Chappa Rug, I think nothing from the Maji Market was modifiable.
And like all of the other stuff from Spooky or New Year I have looked at on the wiki, wasn't as well

Or did you mean something else by seasonable?

[granite valve]

I have to look into it more, but I imagine I could download the game from the stand alone launcher and use a different account for that, than my steam is?
I mean I also have 2 switches and a ps5 that I could utilize.

Need to take a closer look at the fine print if anything like that would be prohibited.
But since I saw a plushi plot with at least 30 Tau plushis.... You can't tell me every last one was traded/gifted by a real player

[teal oyster]

Some twitchers gove away plush to i heard

[granite valve]

you know I used to work in a shop where we also sold plushis that were food related like pizza slice or 4 different kinds of sushis.

We already have the carrot plushi. Would be funny if someday we can get plushis from cooking, too

[mortal quartz]

imagine, one in a thousand cake recipes completed gives you a bonus cake plush

[teal oyster]

No dont give them ideas more plushgrind nooo

[teal oyster]

I will never run out of food then
Also veggy plush dhould be from gardening for sure

[granite valve]

sudden increase in cooking parties, cause all the plushi hunters need to cook more

[granite valve]

piece of cake

[broken crest]

Heyyy ! I'm looking for the Sernuk noddle stew recipe (star)... i don't have the lvl 3 with Ashura... can someone help me please ? I'm actually in game on the European server :3 thank you soooooo much! 🙏🙏

[granite valve]

you mean you look for someone who can cook it with you?
If so, add me and come to my plot

[broken crest]

Yes to cook with me :3
Thanks I do it now

[analog mulch]

why isnt Sernuk Noodle Stew in my inventory. I read the recipe in Ashura’s room but cant cook it….

[granite valve]

check your quest items, maybe?
Some recipes go there and have to be read from there for some reason

Otherwise... I don't know

[analog mulch]

Ill try that, thanks

[sweet citrus]

Quick question, did mushroom quiche replace quiche caleri because I only have mushroom quiche and I don't know how I don't have the quiche caleri recipe yet?

[teal oyster]

Think theres 2 quiche

[sweet citrus]

it's weird because I don't have the quiche caleri but I don't understand why :/

maybe its quest

[teal oyster]

can always use paliatracker recipes section

[marsh drum]

you get it from the ||Pages Unseen Quest||!

and here's the link to the wiki! https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Quiche_Caleri

[sweet citrus]

thank you!

[marsh drum]

of course!

[mortal quartz]

It starts on the stove at home - were you able to check for it there? (you don't get a recipe in your inventory, you just learn it from reading the book)

Make sure you don't have a filter on when you check the stove - those can be sneaky!

[viscid fractal]

hi yall, can someone with 2 spicy peppers help me cook something?

[slim tiger]

Anyone gonna be online that can help me cook the sashimi recipe? I have the ingredients, just not the recipe!

[lyric torrent]

did the spicy stir fry recipe change or is my game bugged? it should be red meat instead of crab no? and any vegetable instead of corn.. i'm also pretty sure when i made it the meat got used not the crab (not 100% sure tho)

[honest mountain]

anyone else need some fishing foods i do but i dont have any friends or anything lmao and its hard to cook alone

[viscid fractal]

hi guys, can i help someone cook sushi, trout dinner, and muujin bahari for my bundles?

[naive ravine]

sure, send me a fr! (probably will be on tomorrow afternoon)

[viscid fractal]

awesome, thank you so much!

[torn lichen]

anybody willing to help me with the muujin bahari for my bundles i have all ingredients just not the recipe

[granite valve]

add me ingame and come over, we can quickly cook it together. Also check if you have any other recipe's missing for achivements. We can do those as well if you want

[dark crater]

silly question but i cant remember for the life of me...do u need starred ingredients for starred recipes? or its ok to use reg...trying to figure out if i need to buy reg corn cuz i have a lil starred corn left

[marsh drum]

starred ingredients (as well as some other steps) increase your chance for starred dishes, but it is never guaranteed! you can use regular ingredients and still get starred, or use all starred and still get non-starred dishes

[dark crater]

thank u! ive had my brain off so i can fish and build that i forgot lmao

[dapper fjord]

bro when do you sleep?

[granite valve]

never is what I would say if that was true
but there is a reason why my general discord name has "insomniac" in it

[mortal quartz]

That's less than 200 rounds of sushi... maybe 2 hours, if the party was slowish? Even 100x poke doesn't take all that long in a group. XD

[dapper fjord]

where is your self care though like ahhh

[granite valve]

yeah sushi is both quick and profitable if you only have to contribute the rice and the host uses epic fish

[mortal quartz]

(or sweet leaf!)

[granite valve]

self care who`? Don't know that name

[dapper fjord]

please make people food and either sleep or something like this goes for everyone

i mean real life people food

i know this is the cooking group but still

[mortal quartz]

I'm giggling that a 2-hour party is what's prompting this level of concern

not even the 600-round cake party one group hosts every so often

(which I find baffling tbh)

[granite valve]

don't worry, I eat irl when I have stuff at home
and I do sleep. Not as regular as I wish it was and sometimes it's under 6 hours and sometimes it's over 10 hours but hey... Without Palia I would be the same, so ... while Palia is my current addiction, it's not the cause. It's a symptom ^^

[dapper fjord]

yeah well yall clearly do this a lot so yes you need sleep and like pasta or something

[granite valve]

holy moly what?
my brain would shut down from 600 round cake party

[mortal quartz]

saaaaaame I barely make it through a 60x some days

(sushi is MUCH faster than cakes)

[granite valve]

I try to do 1-3 cooking parties a day. 2 for money and one for focus, depending on what is available on palia party.

So that is 1-6 hours max per day spent on cooking parties

6 hours would be the extreme end

[dapper fjord]

CHILD WHAT

you need sleep

and food also HYDRATE OR DIE

[granite valve]

please don't call me child if we don't know how old we are in here

[dapper fjord]

okay sorry

[granite valve]

I'm living alone for more than 15 years and even longer with mental health issues.
So I know how to keep myself alive
And I know this is just a downphase where I grind hard in a game until I get out of it again

[mortal quartz]

Yeah I know you mean well, but that level of... idk what you'd call it - scandalized concern? doesn't feel supportive to me

But perhaps you ( .. ) are speaking to someone else who isn't present or who is in other circumstances, where that kind of lecture would be well-received and appropriate

[granite valve]

I get why someone is concerned in general about patterns like this.
I also tell people to sleep and eat and hydrate, take care of them.

But I also try to be respectful, cause even if you talk to a teenager, they are already old enough to not be treated like a child. Still minors and a lot to learn, won't argue on that.

But most people who do have these patterns already know it's not good.
Just like someone with a phobia (aka irrational fear) knows it's irrational to be afraid of a small non poisonous spider for example

[mortal quartz]

I think my patterns are perfectly reasonable for my circumstances, lol

I am playing the game to keep my brain engaged and to be social/ spend time with people

It's not replacing anything else, for me

Anyway, that's getting a little deep into things for the cooking channel, apologies

Happy to continue this convo in a less public setting if needed

[granite valve]

will never forget how my therapist once asked me out loud how I still keep dragging myself out of a depression phase again and again after all the sh... stuff I have been through

People say: When you fall, get up and try again.
I like to say: When you fall, you are allowed to lie on the floor bit and rest enough to ensure you have the strength to get up and not fall down immediately again.

So playing Palia is now my "allowing myself to lie and rest"

[granite valve]

agreed. Sorry. This maybe escalated a bit here ^^

[lyric torrent]

could someone help me cook Phoenixfire Relleno and Chapaa Masala for the bundle? i have the ingredients just not the recipe

[granite valve]

feel free to add me and come over to my plot. I have both recipes

[lyric torrent]

ty!

[granite valve]

fun fact about the earlier topic: I often use cooking parties to snack on something or if I manage to remember I make myself a meal and eat during a cooking party

[burnt harness]

Does anyone need help to cook something? I need to level up my cooking real quick, and I have most recipes and ingredients

[granite valve]

41 minutes for this cooking party. I also solved one sudoku puzzle during the party.
(I started to time my cooking by audio cues. When I hear other ovens being turned on I click right (I keybound the F interaction button with cooking stations also to right mouse button), then left to click okay for cooking rice, then right again to interact with the station and then keep pressing left until I hear the ding of being completed.

[teal oyster]

Moneys

[slim perch]

Is this current?

[burnt harness]

Hi! Sorry for the late response, I will be in game in a short while but won't play for long probably. Would love to help tho!

[slim perch]

Invite Ostegoth when online

[burnt harness]

Added 🙂

[random moon]

If I'm understanding this right, the typical way cooking parties are done doesn't make much sense to me.

It seems that each person brings all of the required amount of one ingredient. But for recipes with wildly different costs between ingredients, this would be very imbalanced.

My first instinct regarding how I would have assumed it worked is that each person brings the total required materials for a portion of the cook, and then materials are split up between the taskers, that way each person is contributing the same investment in gold value.

Or is there no way to simply trade items in large batches and that's why people don't do it this way?

[obtuse condor]

yeah you can't trade large amounts of ingredients, you only get like 5 requests per day iirc. i guess you could all swap roles part way through the cooking party but that makes it more complicated to organize.

i think in reality many people aren't that concerned about fairness in terms of contributions between players, as long as you're making a profit. if you are concerned about fairness then you can sign up for a high cost role at one cooking party and then sign up for a low cost role at the next one.

some cooking parties also have one person cover multiple roles, although i think that's usually for practical reasons (couldn't get enough people to sign up, or people had to leave, or were having technical issues)

[random moon]

Yeah I can see that, with the limitations on exchanging items. Organization being a priority and such. Trying to get a bit of a handle on the concept before trying to do any small-scale hosting.

[marsh drum]

A lot of people also have more ingredients than they know what to do with and enjoy taking on the more expensive roles in order to help others out!

[random moon]

I would assume though for something like Poke, (or anything requiring something like Dari) that it wouldn't be as unusual to cycle through different people depending on how much each person has

[wet acorn]

Has anyone on the steam deck noticed they glitch when cooking rice? I have been attending lots of cooking parties the last couple days and have been fine every time unless I do rice, both times I’ve done rice I’ve glitched like crazy and just get stuck and can’t interact with the stove

[random moon]

So when it comes to starred cooking...

I know that using star ingredients increases the chance of a star result (along with other factors like speed and cooking level), and that clicking the option to use starred ingredients will force you to use them unless you only have the regular for some of the steps, then it lets you use those instead.

What I'm wondering is, does the formula for starred result probability only account for the checkbox being clicked/not clicked, or does it account for each ingredient, such that if you don't have one for one of the steps, and are forced to fill in with a normal, it will proportionally lower your probability of a starred result?

And the same question in reverse, if I ONLY have a starred item for a particular step, but DON'T click the box, and am forced to use it, does it still give me a bonus accounting for the one part of the recipe that I did use a star ingredient?

[obtuse condor]

i don't think it even lets you start a recipe if you don't have all the ingredients in normal quality and the box isn't checked. you have to check the box to be able to use star ingredients at all

the probability of getting a star dish doesn't seem to be understood in perfect detail, but from what i understand each star quality ingredient you use increases the chance of getting a star dish. but you're never guaranteed a star dish, and you can get a star dish even when using all normal quality ingredients.

also i'm not sure it's been confirmed cooking level has any effect on star dish probability?

[random moon]

Ah so use of star ingredients only goes on way, but you can fill in with normals on the parts you're missing.

If the contribution of bonus is the same regardless of the ingredient, then it would seem most advantageous to use non-star fish with star everything else, since the value calculation doesn't use the star value of the ingredients as a base, you're spending opportunity cost of the difference in ingredient value in exchange for star-result probability, and the cheapest slots for that are the ingredients with the lowest base values, while forcing a non-starred rare/epic fish for baseline value.

Can exploit lockbox to force non-star fish in the recipe

[marsh drum]

in order to start a recipe you have to have the STARTER ingredients, but you don't have to have the rest for the record!

[obtuse condor]

ah right thanks for the correction!

[worthy ore]

Could anyone share a general cooking party layout with me? Or one that isn’t for a cake party?

[mortal quartz]

These are sometimes called rotary or rotational parties, where everyone brings, say 1x to 10x of each ingredient plus enough to overprep for the other rounds. Then everyone rotates through the different tasks. They are fairly popular, but tend to be private parties, since they're harder to teach to total newcomers.

Opinion: They ARE more complicated to organize, especially because some people (for example) like to fish, and some people would rather hunt dari cloves, etc. etc. You can request dari cloves, but you can't request starred fish... so the fish turns in to a bottleneck to participation, in my experience, even if the total number required is very low. However, they do ensure that things are evenly distributed among all participants, so there's that.

I mostly go off of the idea that, within any community, for the most part, things "work out in the wash." Sometimes you're the fish-bringer, and sometimes you're the onion chopper going home with almost 3k per onion XD

Some parties also will do like a partial rotation, where, say, you chop fish for 20 rounds, then overprep or do a free role the rest of the time.

Also, Palia tends to have a "problem" of abundance: if you LIKE to fish, then you might end up stacking up dozens (sometimes hundreds) of high-value fish, and then it seems like a shame to just sell them, not to mention it's less profit. Instead, there is a strong incentive to share. You can't KEEP them indefinitely, because even storing them on a plot, you will eventually run out of space.

(When my community ran a (tiny) rotary poke party in early days, before the recipe was widely available again, we ended up having people practically demanding to provide extra rounds of fish! My co-host at the time ended up starting a whole separate party just to accommodate them. XD)

However, you are absolutely right that the relative weight of opportunity cost contribution varies HUGELY among roles. I have a whole spreadsheet analyzing this, actually.

(...gosh, sorry for the freakin' wall of text. Apparently I'm extra-verbose on brainpudding days.)

[marsh drum]

was waitin for it

[mortal quartz]

I don't know how to feel about this XD

[marsh drum]

dw i look forward to it LMAO i always learn something and you talk about it in the same ways i've ranted to my friends about the lore

[mortal quartz]

In my initial testing, the star rate contribution of materials seems to be weighted by their unstarred sell value. Using unstarred epic fish (for example) can tank the star rate of the recipe (baseline/minimum seems to be ~50% with all unstarred ingredients, btw), whereas with starred high-value fish, the star rate goes up to around 90-95%. Higher-value fish seem to pull the star rate around more than cheaper ones; this is true of most ingredients, but it's just especially dramatic with fish, since the unstarred sell value range on those is 30g to 1220g

(Compare forageables, which only have a range of 11g to 145g, or produce, 23g to 64g for unstarred)

I still don't have a formula pinned down for star rate, though

I haven't even fully figured out how I would go about gathering data for that

So many variables 😩

Typical star rate for most recipes does seem to be about 66%, though, with the usual practice of starred produce and unstarred everything else

[lone ocean]

Hi ! I gotta quest, cook for Reith what seems to be some square chocolat (can't remember the name), I have everything needed, but on the recipe, it seem's that I miss something, like the last skills is red. I don't understand

[left shell]

For the Petit Fives, you need extra counters. If you hover over the red icon, usually it will tell you which bit of kit you're missing. Otherwise, the wiki has all the details: https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Petit_Fives

It seems it needs two prep stations.

[lone ocean]

Oh, I see, I miss the fruit paste recipe, or something like that

How did I get it ?

[left shell]

No, you have the recipe. If your kitchen only has one prep statin, it means you need to build and place another prep station. You can do that at your worktable.

[lone ocean]

Ohhhhh

I thought one was enough. I have the mix station, the prep station, the cooking station and the last one, I didn't think it has to be double

[marsh drum]

you'll eventually need two of every station in order to cook every recipe

[lone ocean]

It wasn't obvious TwT

[granite valve]

I agree, I had to search for the answer for that as well.
Just like the flipping minigame doesn't feel intuitive to me.
When you chop then you click the left mouse button at the right time, when the bar hits the target.
But with flipping it suddenly isn't working that way. Instead you have to hold down the button the whole time and then release it, once it reaches the circle target.

Some things in Palia need a better explaining in my opinion

[lone ocean]

I saw that we can desactivate the tutorial for some things. I did it cause I can't read it on my switch, thats to tiny

Maybe thats why

But yeah, some things needa be clear enough

[jade crater]

I struggled to figure that out too. I honestly just really hate that we're forced to have two of every station. Forces you to redesign your entire kitchen if you don't go in knowing that and just doesn't lend itself well to realistic/aesthetic kitchen design imo. Why can't I just use a station twice or something?

[lone ocean]

Yeah !

[jade crater]

I'm probably just gonna keep my main plot as a single station kitchen and then just have another plot for cooking

[granite valve]

my main plot is supposed to be a home to 12 people, so I'm lucky that a bigger kitchen fits nicely into that concept

[charred bridge]

Do you guys prefer to cook things in a party or solo

Cause I honestly can't stand cooking without other people lol

[rotund sphinx]

are you guys able to cook? it doesnt let me click in ):

[mortal quartz]

two things to check:

• make sure you don't have a finished dish or ruined food sitting somewhere - you'll need to pick it up before you can start a new recipe
• make sure you don't have something selected on your hotbar

[rotund sphinx]

none of that sadly

[mortal quartz]

Hm, what happens when you try? (screenshots would be good)

[rotund sphinx]

it just doesnt let me press F, f works with other stuff, thought it was my F key being broken but idk it just doesnt let me press

[mortal quartz]

Screenshot definitely needed please :)

[random moon]

I've done all mine solo just because of the blech of organizing anything for party cooking, even small scale.

Ideally, it would be nice to be able to set up something but it seems it's sort of an all-or-nothing thing on the spectrum of scale. Like if I just have 5 poke bowls to make I'd rather not bother because typical parties are making 50x or 100x of recipes with like 18 people.

All in all being able to trade items at scale would solve everything

[teal oyster]

I feel ya those more then 50-60 partys is just way to much

[charred bridge]

I have like 5 friends that like to come over and cook things so I guess I'm lucky haha

[granite valve]

I get why people would rather deal with the whole organisation thingy once for a big amount of food instead of splitting it up again and again
But it also heavily depends on the recipe and what role you have.
100x or more cake parties have become such a pain for me, I don't attend those anymore.
100x sushi though? Easy peasy half an hour

[teal oyster]

Sushi is faster?

[granite valve]

yeah because Sushi can be broken down in essentially 2 steps from the timing

1. Rice - Sweet Leave - Fish - Heat Root
2. Someone mixing the rice + vinnegar together

a cake needs a lot more steps that depend on each other.

1. Sweet Leave - Fruit Frosting
2. Batter - Frosting
3. Cake Layer
4. Jellied Cake Layer
   You can't make step 3 cake layer without the batter which needs the sweet leaves first.

The other factor is: Cake parties are often not able to have many overprep roles. So if one person crashes/gets stuck or just is distracted, then the others all have to wait. Sushi parties often have 1 person for each role and the others are all overprep on rice.
Meaning if 1 of 20 rice people is late, it doesn't matter for the rest and the overall pace of the party

Because of the general fast pace of Sushi or Sashimi parties, people stay more concentrated I think.
While during a cake party, you have a lot of waiting between the next cycle

[teal oyster]

I gues once i got time i csn try sushi again pokebowls are a pain though cake so slow such slow poeple

[granite valve]

Sashimi is even faster you start it and then you have fish + rice. Done
So if you are working on rice, you are only in danger of missing out on a cycle if you get distracted and you are too slow

As I said yesterday, 120x Sushi in 41 minutes
I would say for the same amount of cake you will be closer to 2 hours depending how well it goes

As for focus food parties I either go to Fish Stew (one starts and everyone else is just chopping garlic, so 1 step again) Edit: I switched it up, fish stew is also money
Or spicy crab fried rice (scfr) It takes a lot more ingredients but all can be done in one step. Only problem here are the green onions. You need someone who can chop the fast paced minigame of these buggers (I certainly can't, my brain refuses to work with that)

I haven't tried out Pokebowl in a while.
Could be broken down in 2 steps from what I see on palia party app. But it requires twice as much Dari Cloves than Sushi... I guess it could drag on slightly longer than Sushi, but not much.

Muujin Bahari will be forever my nightmare.
I think it even has one more step than the celebration cake
And I had to kind of take over the orginsation once over such a party, because the host was inexperienced, had to use a translator to communicate and then also crashed.

(I never hosted a party myself other than that and I only had one other person there who had a lot of cooking party experience )

[teal oyster]

Fish stew focus food interesting concept

One thing to note is that cake is just stir which makes it so much easier

[granite valve]

ah no, wait you're right fish stew is also money
i sometimes switch that up

[teal oyster]

If not for the cutting minigame id go spice crab to i gues

[mortal quartz]

Fish stew was my early-game focus food for a long time, back before they raised the value of all the fish in 0.180. But that was mostly because I was an incredibly nervous cook and struggled with anything that involved timing... however, at the time it was the cheapest chop-n-stir soup. (Isn't anymore, though.)

[mortal quartz]

You could OP rice for SCFR

[teal oyster]

wow then spicycrab is truly the best food in the game if only thes tove didnt have this delay to put on

[mortal quartz]

Have you learned how to skip the "tap tap good stove" animation?

[mortal quartz]

#🍳│cooking-foraging message

Makes it SO much smoother once you get some practice in

[teal oyster]

so if i understood that message correctly it just skips the naimation of putting hte stove on ic ic

[mortal quartz]

Yeah

You still have to interact again to stir

But it takes the "hitch" out

[teal oyster]

i mean since the put stove on animation is 50% of that time its fine

[mortal quartz]

Also makes it much faster if you're placing rice down for someone else, or even when just starting a stove recipe and then moving to a prep table or something

Though I do end up occasionally threatening my food with a bug bomb XD

[teal oyster]

XD

[mortal quartz]

For the green onions, I learned at an LBF party friendly competition that if the green onion person can consistently animation cancel to skip the chop countdown, it's equally as fast to do that and then chop every other beat vs. wait out the countdown and chop on every beat

obviously you can do both to be super duper fast! but SCFR is only as fast as the slowest chopper, and green onion is very short anyway

tbh if all your choppers are super fast, sometimes the real bottleneck is trying to throw it all in the pan fast enough! lmao

Every other beat for green onion is about the same rhythm as garlic, from what I can tell

[granite valve]

yeah but when your brain refuses to work with every second beat as well and you just miss 2-3 times and get the missing animation, it takes longer

Anyone who can do the minigame without a mistake is faster than me

[mortal quartz]

True!

I'd rather stockpile starred Bahari crabs anyway XD

aaaa I am so excited for new recipes!

[teal oyster]

dont u have to wait a little bit to give overpreppers time to be done

[teal oyster]

😮

[granite valve]

that's what I mean that sometimes you will miss out on a round, if you were distracted and too slow.
I notice that most people will wait for the last overpreppers to finish their step.
However you can't start your participation as soon as the first person has finished theirs. So you have to get started before the very quick and animation canceling people finish

[teal oyster]

i gues it depends on the party some are more speedrun while others be more chill obviously u should never wait so long that it ends up being more costly then poeaple missing a round

[mortal quartz]

Our SCFR parties generally don't wait, but we also warn folks that they are speed runs. As long as you finish chopping or whatever before the flip finishes, you get credit, and if folks have trouble with the UI, they are recommended to join as garlic (first on the prep table) or rice (no chopping).

SCFR's whole strength is that it is fast. 35 minutes for 60 rounds.

If it slows down, then it has no advantage over most other recipes, in my personal opinion; but obviously different folks will have different considerations around it, and there's not really a WRONG way to do it...

If you want the nice mental math of 400/600 focus, there's always petit fives, which is much more similar to cakes in structure (same leaf -> batter -> oven -> final step -> assembly flow), and definitely has plenty of time in each round for OP

[granite valve]

finally got the Kilima Koi Pond for 1120 skill medals
Less than 2 months playing and foraging level 51

[lyric pecan]

I hate these stupid oysters. I’ve opened over 60 of them and I still don’t have a green pearl

Ironically it’s also gotten me most of the money I currently have because of the amount of oyster meat and shells I’ve been collecting

[teal oyster]

u can request stuff form other players 4 times per day u can use that for more unopoened oysters others often have way to many anyways

up to 4 extra chance sper day yey

[mortal quartz]

I feel like 4 requests are not worth something you can find within 1 minute of going to get the daily rummage pile, but you're not wrong

[teal oyster]

Doing both be best unles u got better stuff to request

[meager coral]

If someone can make a recipe that I don't have and help them make it can I receive that dish?

If anyone can make muujin bahari and can help lmk pls 🙏🏽

[mortal quartz]

Yes, it does work that way!

[lusty sorrel]

How can I level up my cooking faster? Feel like I’ve been stuck even with cooking everything!!

[urban bridge]

You can join cooking parties in here #1143270926394335282 or make some of these dishes with higher XP for your daily focus food.
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Experience#Cooking

[mortal quartz]

First thing I always check: have you been raising your focus bonus % at the Phoenix Shrine (where you first spawned into the game)? The maximum is 100%. You can check your current focus bonus percent on PC by hovering over your focus bar on the Inventory pane.

but, agreed, cake parties in particular are a great way to push your cooking level quickly. At 100% focus bonus, 1 cake is 680 XP, so you level up every 7-8 rounds.

Cakes are VERY slow to cook alone (and expensive!), but in parties, splitting the effort and ingredients with others, they're reasonably profitable, and generally take about a minute per round.

[cobalt bear]

Hey everyone!! I’m missing a few food items for the vault bundles, I need Chaapa Masala, Trout dinner, phoenix fire reliano, apple pie and Muujin Bahari, I have all the ingredients for all of the recipes just not the recipes themselves, does anyone mind to help me cook them?

[toxic lance]

so i got the catfish dinner recipe from hassian’s grove. why cant i see it or cook it now? its not popping up at the cooking station or campfire

[granite valve]

feel free to add me ingame as friend and we can cook those recipes together

[granite valve]

a) some recipes end up in your quest item inventory first and have to be read from there.
b) It's called Fried Catfish Dinner and is cooked on the stove. Maybe you only looked for dishes beginning with C?
c) if you go back to read it again and you don't get it, sounds like a bug then and needs a support ticket

[cobalt bear]

I sent you a friend request in game!

[granite valve]

got it, come over. I'm at my plot right now :3

[knotty sedge]

How does one make the macarons?

[marsh drum]

they're started at the mixing station

[teal oyster]

you need 2 mixing stations

[knotty sedge]

Thank you i just got to where i can get the recipe to make mixing stations (noob)

[teal oyster]

not noob newb its ok to be new and literly everyone makes that mistake

[granite valve]

Yes I can't say enough how many of us where surprised and dumbfounded by the concept of needing 2 cooking stations of each, so you can cook every recipe properly in the end

[mortal quartz]

Once you think about it, it kind of makes sense, since the starter station is busy holding the recipe-in-progress, running the timer, etc.

From an in-world perspective, in the case of a stove, the stoves are only one "burner," and you'd need a second burner if you wanted to cook something else in another pot. Same idea that if you're assembling a cake or something delicate, you might need more counter space to do other tasks.

...but the UI absolutely does not make that clear, nor does Reth ever mention it, as far as I can recall.

[torn bane]

Quick question, i need one more vault item which is Muujin Bahari. I am level 8 in cooking. Is it possible to cook with someone who has it then im able to get it?

[teal oyster]

Yes that works

[small island]

What is the best thing to cook to level cooking (aside from cake parties)?

[teal oyster]

purely for xp?

[small island]

If there is a convenient way for XP and for energy, that works for me. I usually make gold in other methods so I'm not necessarily looking to make much from cooking. At the moment, at least!

[teal oyster]

spicy crab thing is good for focus to i heard but uhm @mortal quartz you are needed

[tardy bobcat]

Chili oil dumplings is perfect for focus when you're at 1,000. I think it's 525 so you are just over 1k when you do two. SCFR is 625 I think, so you're wasting a bit of XP depending on how you use it.

[teal oyster]

ren has been typing for a long time bro is cooking

[mortal quartz]

"Best" depends on how you define it. If you are looking for fast, then it's campfire foods. Speedy if you rotate around 4 or 5 campfires in a circle around you. They are almost as fast as cakes in terms of XP per time spent.

SCFR is VERY fast if nobody double-roles and you're all competent choppers - about 35s per round. Let me check XP per time, 1 sec

320 XP per round at full bonus for SCFR, at 35 seconds per round, average just over 9 XP per second

Cakes are 680 XP per round, 60 seconds per round on the slow side, over 11 XP per second

Lucky Braised Fish is 1080 XP per round at full bonus, MINIMUM 120 seconds per round due to timed flips, exactly 9 XP per second

Campfire foods are 40 XP each with full focus bonus, around 5 seconds each if you rotate fires, 8 XP per second

Okay, I stand corrected, there are other options... assuming you have an efficient group to cook with.

Steak dinner with 2 people is about 45s? ish? 240 XP per round at full bonus. 5.3 XP per round, and it's ime highly efficient in terms of ingredients if it's just you and one other person.

280 XP per round for stuffed cabbage rolls, typically 35-45s per round.

idk how fast chili oil dumplings can be, because every COD party I've been to has had at least one person badly struggling with the UI

(usually peppers)

[torn shore]

I want to be able to eventually host parties on my plot, if i did a cooking party for like...cakes. what all would i need to build for it?

[mortal quartz]

I think the minimum for a single-role cake party is
4 prep stations (1 starter, 3 spread)
11 mixing stations (4 sweet leaf, 3 batter, 3 fruit frosting, 1 regular frosting)
3 ovens

Plus any extra stations you want the host station to have (like an extra prep and mixing, maybe extra oven) so the host can cover someone's role if they don't show or have to step away, as well as any extra mixing stations you want to set out for potential sweet leaf overprep

3 ovens on-plot (plus 1 extra for host station) is, so far, the maximum ovens called for by any recipe

[torn shore]

thank you 😄

[boreal frost]

ok so i know the stove animation cancel and the skipping timer for chopping, but ive seen people pretty much insta-cut fish during sashimi parties and i need to know how they're doing it

[mortal quartz]

Skipping the minigame entirely? None of the animation cancelling strategies let you skip doing the actual chopping/flipping/stirring. They just get you into the minigame a little faster.

[boreal frost]

no no theres 100% people that are just skipping the chopping for fish entirely. i was in a sashimi party that literally they just touched the prep table and it was done. might not have been a 'legal' glitch but id at least like to know that its not 'legally' possible before i drive myself crazy trying to figure it out

[mortal quartz]

Yep, not possible without thoroughly breaking the ToS

[tropic lake]

Is anyone planning on doing a Poke party sometime before the update next week?

[mortal quartz]

You can try checking #1143270926394335282 and PaliaParty.app maybe? (not an app, just a website for coordinating/publicizing parties)

[tropic lake]

Yeah I have my eye on them. Thank you ✨️

[vagrant rose]

I'm thinking about joining a cake/any other food party to get packed up before the update. But I never participated in one and have no idea about the rules, the hows and whats. I'd appreciate some help with that.

[teal oyster]

Paliaparty app website click one that beginner friendly

[granite valve]

In general most parties have one person for one ingredient/role.

So you would for example sign up for 50 times preparing Sweat Leave- Or 50 times cooking rice, ect

If you are the only person for your role, try to not get distracted too much, or else everyone has to wait for you. If you sign up for an OP = Overprep role, you don't have worry about that aspect, since there are multiple people doing the same step as you.
If you get distracted, then only you miss out on the produced food, but the party continues.
For me that takes off the pressure.

So Overprep kind of also might allow you to show up a bit late or leave earlier if you have to. Best to ask individual hosts before the party if that will be okay.

Everything else is just learning of timing and rhythm of individual recipes and parties. Every host might have their own set of rules.
Some common rules are:

• Add host to your friendlist early.
• Show up on time
• Have enough time for the party
• Be friendly and have fun

Helpful things that are not always rules

• Turning off animated outfits, Pets and nameplates both help switch players in big parties with performance as well as some neurodivergent people getting less distracted
• While some people need to occupy themselves with doing something like running/jumping/doing animations to keep focused, others can get distracted or suffer from sensory issues. So If you don't need to move around, try to stay at your station.
• You should always feel free to ask a host if you need your station to be moved further away. Either because you don't want to disturb others, or need a more quite place for you to concentrate

[vagrant rose]

Oh wow, thank you so much for the details. This will really take off the pressure on me when I join a party. 😍

[shell knoll]

Good evening, I have a problem with cooked dishes. I'm trying to make tomato soup but when I finish the ingredients my character freezes and it's no longer possible to move or continue until the end.

[honest mountain]

can someone help me make poke for zeki bro always wants stuff i dont have

[mortal quartz]

jeez, he wants the expensive stuff... tell me it's a tier 3 or 4 gift, at least?

(Otherwise, I would honestly suggest giving him a citrine and skipping the poke, 'cause yikes, dari and heat root ain't worth the equivalent of chatting with him four times...)

[honest mountain]

It’s 4

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, equivalent of 8 chats in that case

I'm not able to log in right now, but if nobody has been able to help you by the time I'm back online, I'll be happy to help out :)

[mortal quartz]

This has been an intermittent bug for some people. What happens when you use the Unstuck command when you freeze? ( /unstuck in chat, or opening the main menu and selecting Unstuck)

Either way, I would submit it as a bug report so the devs can work on squashing it.

https://support.palia.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/20375861711892--Fixed-Players-can-freeze-at-cooking-crafters
Not sure if same bug

Sometimes when people /unstuck, they get teleported to the plot entrance (as expected), but still can't move...

[median radish]

Does anyone know where I can get trout dinner and apple pie?

[stray ore]

Trout dinner is in Einar’s cave. I think the apple pie recipe is in Delaila’s room.

[shell knoll]

Yes, it does the same thing to me. I'll send a message 👍🏼 thank you

[mortal quartz]

I'm sorry, that's such a pain. :(

In the meanwhile, if there are things you need to cook, I recommend cooking with others so they can finish the dish if you get stuck.

If you start the recipe, you will always get credit for the dish even if you aren't able to complete a minigame step for it.

[signal mirage]

Any legend wanna be my cooking assistand for weekly meals? Need to craft 3.

[teal oyster]

Need that to but cant play anytime soon 🥹

[dark crater]

Just trying to figure out how many extra stations I should have for my plot regarding over prep...so for example...if im hosting a cake party for 18 and have overprep for sweet leaf should i have 12 more mixing stations cuz the cap to a server is 29-30?

[teal oyster]

Yup

[dark crater]

sweet thank u!

[teal oyster]

But often not everyone will do the same op

[hallow maple]

Hiya. Is the flip option glitching for anyone else?

[granite valve]

you don't klick
you have to keep the button pressed and then release it on the circle

[analog mulch]

How do I get ahold of Chili Oil Dumplings? I cannot find the recipe lol

[pulsar vessel]

if anyone needs any social cooking achievements, this event is starting soon! https://paliaparty.app/gk64lv

[analog mulch]

Wahhhh I am at work rn 😦

[urban bridge]

The recipe can be purchased from the Cooking Guild Store upon reaching Cooking Cooking Level 9, for 2,500 Gold.
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Chili_Oil_Dumplings#Obtain_the_Recipe

[pulsar vessel]

the host is planning another one next thursday (american time)!

[hallow maple]

It worked thanks

[granite valve]

np. Feels like 99.9% of the time when someone asks about flipping not working, it's that the minigame is suddenly different from the one for chopping.
It's weird

[mortal quartz]

The fact that you only get the tutorial when you first attempt the minigame - you know, while you're under time pressure - and then can't reference it anywhere afterward is a major contributor to the confusion, I suspect

[dark crater]

For sashimi or fish tacos do the sprouts need to be starred or would the fish itself be ok not starred…ik the more starred the more potential it is to come out starred?

[teal oyster]

It has effect but small and how do u plan to get starred sprouts reliably anyways

[dark crater]

Yea thats why i asked cuz idk if i should dedicate time for just starred sprouts

[mortal quartz]

Agree with DS: assuming you're using high-value fish, the contribution of the spice sprouts is much smaller in comparison. More important to have starred fish.

[dark crater]

awesome! Thanks guys

Saves me from losing my mind from fishing and resource gathering

[teal oyster]

I personally consider starred spice to be unobtanium outside of the random ones u get

[dark crater]

yea i was worried if it just had to be starred cuz ik dari's dont but since its just me supplying fish and potential sprouts i didnt wanna struggle even more T_T

[median pulsar]

I am so excited for new things to cook! :D

[marsh drum]

i have been yearning for new recipes AND ingredients and we are getting so many

i cannot wait to update my google doc

[median pulsar]

This is literally SO exciting.

[left shell]

I'm excited about new mushrooms.

[granite valve]

Since the patchnotes dropped I want a ||Bean Burger|| irl. Hadn't one in months 😭

[rustic cave]

I just hope the recipes don’t cost a fortune!!

[granite valve]

I don't think that will be the case.

||according to patch notes you find most of them in npc rooms||

[left shell]

Ohhh, now I think of it, it's making me crave a Portobello burger.

[atomic blade]

Managed to get an ||ancient amber|| on my first ancient tree!!!

[gusty radish]

found like an 8 or 9 tree flowtree grove in bahari but no ones around to help chop it. does anyone mind helping me rq?

[wide burrow]

Is 10,000 still max storage?

[lofty marten]

plus 300 locked storage, but per today's mini dev update another storage upgrade is coming next month

[teal oyster]

we so need more storage ...

theres like 50% more items now or something

[sour turtle]

Did they make cooking a little easier?

[lofty marten]

really wishing the dowsing rod would track the elderwood lotus

and it looks like it does, complaining made it pop up 🤣

[teal oyster]

complaining always works in this game idk why

[fervent harness]

Has someone fihured out hpw ro make ancient wood planks?

Figured*

[tiny wolf]

you need to buy the recipe from ashura

[haughty cape]

Anyone up for making lucky braised fish with me? I just need someone to watch the stoves. I'll carry the cooking

[mortal quartz]

OMG YAY what a nice UI change!
(I only have one stove out at home, usually, for space reasons, and as veterans know, this recipe needs 2 stoves: one to start, and one to cook the rice on)

lolol the "any vegetable" recipes are still showing on the UI as requiring corn... so much for seeing if I could find more info on the new crops.

[marsh drum]

i am so happy with the ui change

and the new recipes !!

[mortal quartz]

They fixed the "no meat, only crab >:[" visual glitch, though

[sour turtle]

Theres new recipes?

[marsh drum]

yes! 12 actually :)

[sour turtle]

83

[spring shuttle]

Anyone have the trout dinner they could help me make?

[mortal quartz]

I am happy to report that Stuffed Cabbage Rolls are STILL broken! Still always 52g even if you use vamp crab and brightshroom xD

[mild raptor]

ooooo black pearl

[quasi iris]

May i ask where you found that meat?

[mortal quartz]

So many of these new recipes seem to use multiples of different ingredients.

[toxic lance]

anyone have the fish stew recipe and wouldn’t mind me coming over to make just 1?

[little brook]

how can I gather those mushroom like things that go inside the ground

[lofty marten]

via hunting

[little brook]

oh

so what shoot an arrow at it

[lofty marten]

yup, the shmoles will pop up from their hidey holes in the area a la whack a mole and you shoot them with arrows

[little brook]

alright thanks

[simple copper]

So about enchanted wood.....

[simple copper]

Do you still need this??

[dense falcon]

https://gyazo.com/633abbfe09e6b700e8c15b8db241ed63

open the Elder Clam mushrooms

[mild raptor]

^ this - I was going through what I've collected and testing things out ❤️

[stable sequoia]

I feel like I am going insane. Where can I find piksii berries? I just run around like a lunatic

[teal oyster]

Think most biomes have em especially the large tree part

[stable sequoia]

They are the most elusive common item in elderwood for me 😅😅 I just need one and I’ve been looking around for about two hours

[cedar urchin]

you open the elder clam mushrooms ❤️

[toxic lance]

no someone helped me! thanks

[hot fjord]

anyone now how i can get Oyster meat

[austere jackal]

by opening unopened oysters, they're found in bahari bay along the coast

[hot fjord]

thx

[severe tinsel]

does anyone know what batterfly beans look like in game and where i can find them??

[amber wing]

They’re often located at the base of trees. Mitana(sp?) Grove

When we cook and check star ingredients, if we don’t have enough starred ingredients of one, it’s supposed to automatically use non starred items right?

[severe tinsel]

Yes, that's where I've been looking, but I don't even know what they look like, and nothing pops up when I move past the trees. Do you have a screenshot or anything?

[amber wing]

Maybe try Okanaa Bog too. They’re long plants near the base of the trees. No screenshots on me ):

[severe tinsel]

That’s okay, I’ll figure it out—thanks for the help!

[viscid hinge]

i wish we could mix star and non star ingredients when cooking. my farming lvl is high enough that i only get star quality rice but star quality dari cloves are much harder to come by

[marsh drum]

you can mix them! just select "use star quality ingredients" and it will substitute non starred ingredients for the ones you don't have!

[viscid hinge]

THANKS I WAS AFRAID TO TRY THAT AND WASTE INGREDIENTS

[mortal quartz]

make sure you lock any starred forageables you want to save

(then it will default to your unstarred)

[haughty coyote]

Wie kann ich Weißsteinplatten herstellen?

[simple copper]

Awesome! I'm doing an achievements party this morning if you need it!

[simple copper]

du musst das Rezept von Hodari bekommen, dann kannst du weißen Stein aus Holunderholz in die Schmelze geben

[haughty coyote]

oooh super vielen Dank!

[simple copper]

gern geschehen!♥️

[broken hawk]

Those can be opened?!

[mild raptor]

lol yup, I thought it was an edible forage so I was trying to get my character to eat it

[broken hawk]

Same here! 😂 I was so confused on what I needed it for ....so I sold em 😞

[sour turtle]

I wish we can sell our cooking to other players that would be so cool 83

[broken hawk]

Can't you trade food?

[sour turtle]

can We?

[tardy bobcat]

No you cannot "trade" food, you can pick up the same food if cooked in a group

[broken hawk]

Ah okay!

[mortal quartz]

You can't "trade" most things (exceptions: plushes, stickers, and a particular type of new thing in Elderwood). It is possible to request food, but you can only make 4 requests at once, and requests for food are only 1 at a time, so it's not very effective.

The easiest way to help another player get food is to have them cook a kitchen recipe with you. As long as they either (a) start the recipe or (b) complete at least one minigame (chop, roll, stir, flip, or take something out of the oven) they will also receive a full copy of the dish.

For brand-new players who don't have many ingredients, most recipes have at least one minigame step where you don't have to put in any ingredients (free role).

For the ones that don't, someone else can put down the ingredient by starting the minigame and then backing out of the cooking station, leaving the item there to be interacted with again.

[dense falcon]

Has anybody actually found beehives to shoot out of the pine trees (to get honey) in Bahari Bay yet? I've been looking at all of them, both north and south sides and not a single beehive to be seen.

[lofty marten]

i've seen the in elderwood and someone in another channel reported seeing one in kilima, but i haven't seen a bahari mention (though things move fast and are easy to miss)

[teal oyster]

yup bahary on pinetrees and elderwoods pine trees