🍳│cooking-foraging

[mortal quartz]

LBF is the recipe you cook Because It's There type challenge 😂

• it doesn't count toward any accomplishment other than the generic "cook x times" ones maybe
• it's not good money (the 2 ginger and 4 green onion don't count toward the sell value, knocking it down about 20% from what it should be)
• it's not good for focus (overkill even unstarred)
• it's excellent XP BUT it's minimum 2 minutes per round 😰 so it's not time-efficient for that

There is, in short, NO external reason to cook Lucky Braised Fish other than liking the challenge XD

[marsh drum]

yeah or for decor

[old plank]

lbf is fun. is there no recipe that will challenge me more than it? 😦

i love the solo cooking im working on getting all the cooking achievements. hardest is doing it in party cause people just want to make cake

[mortal quartz]

That's true!

[mortal quartz]

In terms of complexity and step order challenges, no, other than maybe muujin Bahari if you haven't tackled that one yet. Some of the other, simpler recipes are pretty tough to get starred due to very short timers.

[old plank]

i have done muujin bahari a l ot

i have 1k max focus now so i make muujin to eat mostly

im trying to put one of every star food in my kitchen im running out of table space lol

[mortal quartz]

Rice cake stir fry gives you 16 seconds per step; spicy crab fried rice allows 15 seconds per step; LBF is 14 seconds per step. Cakes give 18 seconds per step, and for muujin Bahari, 21 seconds per step.

23 seconds per step is typical for intermediate recipes.

Oh, and chapaa onigiri is 20s per step, and that one is ANNOYINGLY tough because it has 3 step layers.

(chop chapaa meat + chop sprouts -> mix butter -> sear chapaa meat)

[old plank]

ok so i have one star for all of those already except chappaa onigiri ill lhave to look

ill check real quick

i do have the onigiri done 😦

was hoping it was new but i just hadnt done it in a few days

so far i havent had a problem with timing in any of them

im so new tho i just figured out you can buy event food and it is sometimes starred so i need to do tons more hot pot and im already tring to get the hot pot wins for the plot item

i checked and i am missing 4 recipes from having cooked everything from the lunar new year, spice n corn, and cooking by the book being completed in starred and unstarred

[shell saddle]

I just wanted one of each thing starred on my plot, though I didn't know that it didn't count towards accomplishments for cooking. But jeez does LBF take a lot of ingredients too. I have yet to make a recipe that seems worth selling. I'm only like level 7 and I haven't made all of the recipes I have unlocked yet, but in nearly every case, I'd make more or almost as much just selling the ingredients it seems? It's just cooking for the starred food for my plot, gifting, and eating.

LBF costs 100g in just cooking oil. 160g in soy sauce. That's 260g for just those, and the max you can sell it for is 198g for a starred version.

Rainbow trout is the cheapest trout at 90g when selling a basic one. Trout dinner gets you 69g for a starred dish.

[marsh drum]

there really isn't any dish to solo cook that is profitable besides unstarred grilled fish! cooking parties is where profit happens since you're contributing part of the ingredients instead of all of them

[shell saddle]

Good to know

[mortal quartz]

I do! I'll be online for about another half hour. FR sent :)

[proper verge]

im so sorry i forgot to delete it but i already got someone to help tysm tho <3

[iron reef]

hat jemand Lust gemeinsam zu kochen? 🙂

[uncut beacon]

can i join?

i need upgrade my cooking skill

[old plank]

i cook just to decorate, eat, and gifting. i make money other ways. like selling leather n furs from my hunting for meat too cook and selling extra fish plus the gardening 8 sell a lot of p ickles carrots etc truth is the timed cooking is fun

[upbeat ravine]

I just started a couple weeks ago. How do you know what order to do the steps in? Especially for multi person cooking.

[old plank]

i tend to do prep first

prep them mix then bake/cook works for me

just keep eye on timer for stir

[upbeat ravine]

I've seen a flowchart for the cake. Don't know where it came from, though.

So far I've been guided by red ❌ - I see one and think, ok, what do I have to do before I can do this. But isn't there some way to read the recipe to know before you start? How did people figure out that cake flowchart? Lol!

If it was all just trial and error, like I do, has anyone put steps or flowcharts on a website or something? Thanks. 🙂

[mortal quartz]

Yes, you can view all the steps and their ingredients/tasks by clicking on the icons for the different stations before you start the recipe. Outside of the game, you can look the recipes up on the wiki (palia.wiki.gg). They have a chart that lists the different tasks, HOWEVER, be aware that if a recipe requires you to do the same task more than once, the wiki format doesn't take that into account. That said, there are recommended step orders for solo cooking also on the page for each dish.

[upbeat ravine]

I tried that - it does help some. Maybe I'll get better at deciphering it with practice. I'll check the website too, thanks!

[mortal quartz]

It does take a bit of practice, yeah :) A lot of recipes have similar "chunks" to them - like if there's herb butter (mix) needed, then after a while you get to know that it needs the spice sprouts done first. Or spicy pepper paste (mix) needs a pepper chopped first. Frosting and batter need sweet leaf (mix) done first; and so on.

OH! I forgot! PaliaParty.app also has flowcharts for most of the recipes. (Some are not 100% accurate, but they're mostly pretty good.) You can view them by creating a private party for that recipe.

[upbeat ravine]

Ah. Lots of practice, so I'll get better. And similar patterns help me a lot. Good to know! (I'm a retired programmer. I'm good with patterns. :D)

[mortal quartz]

You'll pick it up quick, then :D

You also start learning little tricks, like when adding something to the pan triggers a stir/flip, and when a stir/flip is just based on time elapsed

[upbeat ravine]

How to see those flowcharts, that's what I wanted, yes!!

[mortal quartz]

I have referenced the Muujin Bahari flowchart many, many times lol

[upbeat ravine]

Haven't tried that yet, but I saw the recommendation in the thread here that Steak Dinners are good focus food for solo or duo cooking. I have a friend - neither of us have tried multi person cooking yet, and were wanting to try something simple first with just the two of us.

[mortal quartz]

That's definitely a good two-person recipe! Nice and smooth if you split it up right. Would you like some tips, or prefer to try it out on your own first?

[upbeat ravine]

I'll take tips! 🙂

[proper verge]

what did i do wrong? it wont let me do anything now

[spiral imp]

What ended up happening? For me I had this issue and eventually it let me flip after like 30 seconds in between - recently it wouldn't allow me to even use the oven to add all my ingredients to complete the food. Lots of cooking bugs lately, unfortunately.

[proper verge]

the timer just ran out, kind of a bummer? idk how i could have fixed it

[spiral imp]

Definitely a bug - nothing you did wrong, I'm sorry for your ingredients loss 😔

[proper verge]

i wouldnt be so mad if it wasnt such a big recipe :(

[teal oyster]

timer on flips so add something flip add something flip not ad flip add add add

[mortal quartz]

The subsequent flips are timed, but you have to add other things first to trigger them. If you don't get the ingredients in the pot fast enough, it is possible to run out of time before the timer to start the flips elapses. Not a bug, just a tough, complex recipe :(

[gentle urchin]

heyyy so i was wondering if someone wanted to help me make chili oil dumplings? i have everything except spice sprouts and ive never had spicy peppers

[mortal quartz]

When doing this recipe as a group, we learned that you have to put the fish (and maybe the ginger and vinegar?) in basically as soon as the recipe starts, because that begins the timer on the flips.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palia/comments/1aid2vh/comment/koxgchn/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[mortal quartz]

Sorry for delay: When cooking steak dinner as a duo, I've found the following helpful:

• Best to always split up the basic dough (wheat) and the chopped spice sprouts, because they each are needed for a later step, and if one person does both, it delays everything
• Starter chops spice sprouts ASAP, then handles the flips
  • Having a prep table very close to the stove helps
  • First flip triggers 15 seconds after the recipe starts
  • Adding the herb butter triggers the second flip
  • The bread can go in to finish the dish, so you don't have to wait for it, but nothing bad happens if you do add it sooner
• Other person can roll dough (wheat), bake the bread, and mix the herb butter
  • I like to put the dough in the oven, mix the butter while it bakes, then pull the bread out (this is easy if you put the mixing table right near and at right angles to the oven)

[upbeat ravine]

Np on the delay. It's been a very busy day for me; I just checked back, and had finally gotten a chance to look at the flow chart! Thanks so much for the tips! ❤️

I was thinking of moving my stations a bit farther apart actually, if we use my setup. I have mine so close to each other I have to jump to get inside my outdoor "kitchen". Lol! (It's a rectangle with two preps facing two mixers on the sides, two stoves on one end, and an oven on the other.)

[mortal quartz]

Haha, yeah, you do need a little room to maneuver and also so you don't get "yanked" by the oven when trying to interact with another station

[radiant tusk]

Soooo.... anyone want to doooo some lucky braised fish??

[mortal quartz]

Only because it's you 🥹

[radiant tusk]

Sign ups are up on HH

[radiant tusk]

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READ THE DESCRIPTION!
IGN: Emelia Flintspark

Palia Party Link: https://paliaparty.app/jslb97
Lucky Braised Fish Party :3

[radiant tusk]

Still Need a few mor sign ups!!!

[hollow cairn]

Can I use blueberries for fruit frosting or most of the parties don't like it?

[jade forum]

Unless the party host specifies that you can use blueberries, only use apples. Using blueberries decreases *the sell value of the celebration cakes, the reason they ask for starred apples is because that's the highest value you can make

[low cairn]

what is FF on cake parties?

[mortal quartz]

Changes the focus amount how so?

[jade forum]

Ah you're right, it only should matter if it's starred or not right? Lemme edit

Been ages since I looked at all the values since they almost all end up in my glow worms farms anyway thank you for the correction!

[jade forum]

Fruit frosting

[chrome canyon]

Any cake party ?

[empty torrent]

Anyone actually managed to get Einars final pebble? Out of the oysters?

[empty torrent]

I've heard people have gone through 3k+ oysters, then again it took me about 500 Glow Worms to get the Giant Goldfish, everything else I caught pretty easily

[teal oyster]

Got it on my third oyster without knowing what it was so in like playing for 15 min ….

Request 4 oysters everyday from others for free rools

[empty torrent]

I do that regularly, and scouring the beaches too

The RNG gods are not on my side

[teal oyster]

But theres no rush though

[empty torrent]

It's been months

[teal oyster]

And poeple gave u 4 unopened oysters per day in that meantime damm tuff luck

If i could id give u my stash of several hundred of em

[mortal quartz]

The drop rate on the smooth shiny pebble is 0.1% (one in 1,000) and 50% of people will require more oysters than that to find it

2,000 is a sorta conservative "expect it to take about this many" number, I'd say

And I'm very sorry to say this, but to answer your question: somehow I wound up finding two 😭 one that I turned in ages ago, and then I guess the "flag" that says I found it fell off for me, or was changed, or something, because a while back I got another from an oyster.

(As an aside: I ran an analysis for what to do with all that oyster meat (for profit), and my general conclusion was that it makes great glow worm food. All the for-profit possibilities are pretty low-return for the ingredients used and most are kind of annoying to cook.)

[teal oyster]

met one guy that was making oyster akwindu for his entire game duration becuz of this lmao

party starred/unstarred cakes still better though

[mortal quartz]

Absolutely, even if you use vamp crabs for the bacon x_X

138/207⭐ per dish that way, and it's NOT fast

AND it uses heat root

[gray owl]

I'm doing a run for plant fiber in Kilima and the invitation is open to any and everyone.
https://paliaparty.app/8jgxth

[teal oyster]

how does one even farm fiber?

ic there are bushes they are so rare to me maybe others cut htem nonsotp first

[ionic bridge]

Dumb question:
What (if anything) does the rarity of a cooking ingredient contribute to the finished dish?

Is it worth it to use only Vampire Crabs instead of Bahari Crabs?

[teal oyster]

Not dumb
More gold value
And starring its step is more star chance

[teal oyster]

@tacit hinge epic fish dish partys is where poeple overprep on a fihs dish but someone supplies epic fish so u get insane amounts of money per meal

[tacit hinge]

how do i sign up 😂

[teal oyster]

the party app but u do have to sign up way in advance cuz they are quiete contested probs why u nevewr see em on there so u gotto be like sleect cooking only and hten u find it way at hte bottom

[ionic bridge]

Thanks, makes sense

[tacit hinge]

i can supply one epic fish rn AHAHAH but i need to finish my bundles n storyline quests before i can return to fishing 😭

[teal oyster]

no u just do overprepping someone else makes 0 profit by supplying the epic fishes

[tacit hinge]

but i dont wanna take advantage of that someone supplying epic fishes too, like lemme contribute one 😭

[teal oyster]

its fine u can share hte burden but since u clearly dont got epic fish to spare its no worrys

[tacit hinge]

😂😂😂 istg once i finish my bundles its over for all the epic fishes

[teal oyster]

btw if someone minds being taken advantage of they shouldnt offer to be taken advantage of XD they usually just wanna share coins wiht poeple

unleash ur inner greed $_$

[tacit hinge]

i mean they might not feel like theyre being taken advantage of but i feel like id be leeching and i dont like that 😭😭😭😭😭

[teal oyster]

its ok u just have to follow therapy on that so ur fine wiht leeching i promise it makes u super succesfull at life 🤣

😜

[tacit hinge]

i cannot stand to be successful if it comes at the expense of someone else 😭😭 i need therapy

[teal oyster]

i always think its about balance u need the right amount of being a total psychopatic selfish sociopath and the right amount of emphatic caring patrotic hivemind

[tacit hinge]

thats true, but i mean i cant really change my nature either

[teal oyster]

nope ur super caring

ok so the trick is to just care muhc more abouyt urself then others ;P

[tacit hinge]

AHAHAHA ill try but i usually cannot do that 😭😭😂😂

[teal oyster]

or just ask if they need ur fish or they are fine i guess

[tacit hinge]

i meaan even if they dont ill prob insist on it anyway

[teal oyster]

(went to these partys a few timnes cant even dump all epic fishes in lockbox anymore) 😈

[teal oyster]

u cant do that thats not nice u gotto respect their choices

[tacit hinge]

maybe thats why zekis my fav character do i just like being the one giving or what

[tacit hinge]

what does that do

[teal oyster]

i mean if someone keeps sayin ghtey are fine with being treated like a doormat i just do it more so they learn to be assertive 😈

[teal oyster]

i take advantage of others epic fishes but meanwhile i cant even store all mine anymore and i never contribute one of mine MUHAHAHAHA

[tacit hinge]

nah im reciprocal 😂

[teal oyster]

grabs dictionary

[teal oyster]

im liek a devil i give u only what our agreed upon contracts obliges me to do XD kinda weird how some poeple dont just ask for more but oh well i cant read minds

[tacit hinge]

wdym

i mean in my culture asking for more isnt the best thing to do?

oh gosh i really gotta go to bed goodnight!

[teal oyster]

oh right culture exists XD

[mortal quartz]

As someone who regularly hosts parties using fancy fish, I sometimes have to turn people away who want to contribute fish for rare fish stew. Like, can't fit everybody who has fish into the time limit, lol. Half the time you're doing people a FAVOR by helping them feel like they're putting their resources (which they otherwise have to STORE, mind you...) to sufficiently effective use. Like, it feels really, really good to bring your fish to a big party because you're literally multiplying your effort to catch them.

Also, generally it's not just one person always bringing the fish, AND it's still a better use of the fish than just selling it. The fish person is not losing money - in fact, with double-dari epic poke, they're getting back 60% more money than just selling the fish just for the rounds where they contribute fish. (For most parties, it's several people splitting up the fish contribution, unless someone really really wants to clear out a stash they've been saving up, so for the majority of the party the fish-bringers are chopping or mixing cheap stuff.)

[tacit hinge]

oooh i see okay that makes me feel better about it LOL

[mortal quartz]

It's also really, really damn fun to have a newer player show up to one of those parties, chop a little garlic or spice sprouts or whatever, and then go holy sh--- this is so much gold and know that you're helping XD because we all remember that early-game struggle

It's a community thing :) Hoarding helps no one, sharing helps everyone, including the sharers. I love this game 🥰

[tacit hinge]

im gonna cry this game is so wholesome

[mortal quartz]

I really love how so much of it is designed to explicitly reward collaboration

[young lotus]

whats the optimal amount of sweet leaf for a cake party?

[jade forum]

If you mean to just have on hand, 100-200 is plenty since cake parties can vary from 50/60 rounds to 100 at a time for regularly scheduled ones!

[young lotus]

oh thank you! just wanted to make sure so i wouldnt be a nuissance if i joined one =))

[jade forum]

Just be sure you have you have enough for what you signed up for and you won't be causing any issues

[young lotus]

stacked almost 500 of those thingies so id say im good, thankies for the answer!

[pulsar marsh]

If there is a Senorita Fustilugs in here, thank you very much for the lily. I was so bored with searching. I tried to thank you but chat disconnected

[tacit hinge]

guys is poke bowl recipe not available rn? T^T

[mortal quartz]

No, but a few other exclusive recipes (including Lucky Braised Fish) are. The Market that's open until Feb 20 is is the Luna New Year version

[tacit hinge]

i bought the braised fish one, kinda too broke for any more than that

[brave forge]

Helloooo, not sure if i am in the right channel but i want to ask about a cooking quest. At what level do i obtain the mixing station?

[mortal quartz]

Hello! Per the wiki, the recipe for the mixing station unlocks at cooking level 3. You can get it from Reth's Cooking Guild store (it's free)
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Mixing_Station

[mortal quartz]

And if it's the quest I'm thinking of - you'll need to craft 2 mixing stations :)

[brave forge]

Aaaa I seee, I must have missed it

[mortal quartz]

Just to get ahead of that particular puzzlement that seems to catch everybody...

(including me when I was doing that quest)

[brave forge]

Oh really? I am still new at the game, I need to make 3 dessert thingy

I forgot what it called

[mortal quartz]

Oh, maybe it's a different one, then. Petit fives?

[brave forge]

Yeaaa that’s the one

[mortal quartz]

Ah, okay, I thought you were talking about the one that needs you to make macarons

Petit fives starts at the prep table, does require a mixing station, and also requires a second prep table

[brave forge]

Ayy but it’s a good headsup, thanks man. Appreciate it a lot

[mortal quartz]

Do you have fruit already?

[brave forge]

I seee, atm I am strugling to get fruit

[brave forge]

Nope, sadly not yet

[mortal quartz]

You can cook with someone else who has fruit and you'll both get the petit fives :) I bet if you ask in server chat, someone would be happy to help (I'd be volunteering but I'm omw to bed)

[brave forge]

Hehe I am omw to bed too, but ay thanks for the knowledge

Appreciate it

[left otter]

Can petit fives be done solo? I have social anxiety and am afraid of joining a cooking party

However I hate cooking and have had horrible experiences in game due to doing steps out of order?

[obtuse condor]

every recipe can be done solo, unless maybe you struggle with the minigames

the palia wiki always has a recommended order of steps if this will help: https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Petit_Fives

[left otter]

I’m usually fine with the mini games, it’s just when cooking it’ll say I failed a step when I literally don’t know why or how bc I finish the step and then it’s just ruined???

[obtuse condor]

hm.. hard to say why that would happen without knowing more. could it be you missed a flip/stir on the stove or missed taking something out of the oven before it burned?

if you like we could cook it together, but no pressure if you're not comfortable with it. i have avoided doing cooking parties too but i find cooking with one or two others is lower stress.

[teal oyster]

Or i can tell u how to not care about others bring around u so u can do partys even when u got anxiety thingys

im the best exposure therapy there is

[daring swift]

It can and I do understand what it’s like having social anxiety. If it will help you i will gladly offer you to cook together and we can cook anything because i have every recipe.

If you fail we try again no pressure at all! And if you are ready for a cake party or cooking party sometime i have a friend who does the best beginner friendly cake parties.

[elder jackal]

Where do I get the hearty vegetable soup recipe? Figured I'll ask here since no one talks in game lol.
I tried looking in the tavern store but it wasn't there

Or general store. I'm still on the newbie cooking quest

[marsh drum]

you buy it from reth himself from the cooking guild!

[elder jackal]

Ah ok thanks

[gentle urchin]

anyone know the difference in these? i see the 1 coin but like idk

[marsh drum]

value can vary for a few reasons! in celebration cakes for example blueberries are worth less than apples so blueberry celebration cakes would have a lower value i believe how long it takes you to cook the recipe effects that as well but i am not 100% on that

[gentle urchin]

ohhhh that makes sense thank you so much i was so confused

[ivory pike]

Fudges with inventory management

[gentle urchin]

lmfao i was trying to order my food but was struggling

[mortal quartz]

Was one made a long time ago (before 0.180)?

The only things that affect the sell value of a dish are:

• the unstarred sell values of all of the ingredients. Those are added together and then multiplied by 0.375, rounded down, to get the base dish sell value for one dish of the food.
• then, if the dish turns out starred, you add +50% of that base value, rounded down, to get the starred value

"how long it takes you to cook the recipe" is a factor in your chances of starring the dish, but doesn't directly affect the sell value.

[marsh drum]

i knew it effected the starred chances but couldnt remember if it also effected value LOL

[mortal quartz]

Macarons have no variable ingredients - unlike cakes, where you have "any fruit" (variable), they are always flour, egg, milk, and sweet leaf. (Starred or unstarred sweet leaf doesn't matter because the dish sell value formula uses the unstarred sell value for all ingredients.)

[gentle urchin]

i honestly do not know if it was made before that

[mortal quartz]

BUT... the sell value of sweet leaf changed with the big economic update in 0.180. It went from being worth 15g to being worth 23g. The other ingredients' unstarred sell values have stayed the same.

So, let's see if the math maths...

New macarons made with sweet leaf after 0.180 have a dish sell value formula that's like:
(23 + 5 + 12 + 15) * 0.375
or 20g, after you round down.
Starred, that +50%
or 30g.

...well. That's weird.

Old macarons should be worth 17g unstarred, 25g starred.

I have NO idea what's going on there! 🧐

[gentle urchin]

i joined october 2024 and i think the update you said is from may of that year

thank you though lol i was organizing my food (i like having one of each starred so i can use it to decorate) and i was like hmm i have two spaces taken up by macarons and they won’t stack, something weird is happening here

[mortal quartz]

That IS weird

The only thing I can think of is if maybe one was a quest reward? or if the rounding doesn't work like I think

time to star some macarons for science

[marsh drum]

i have some old macarons that match the first unstarred break down 👀

[mortal quartz]

34 wtf

[marsh drum]

and here's the ones i just made

[mortal quartz]

How old were the 34g ones?

[marsh drum]

that im not sure..? sometime in the past year i believe but i cant remember entirely

[gentle urchin]

xD this is so crazy i’m glad i have others to help me and relate

[mortal quartz]

The wiki's values are also all over the place, though that section of the dish pages has flummoxed me since I was a brand new player ngl

not to mention the value on the recipe tooltip not matching reality

Also, 34g? is the pre-cake nerf value for starred macarons. I think.

Maybe.

The only other sources for macarons are a letter from Tish and from completing a found item quest

[gentle urchin]

that might’ve been where i got one of mine

[mortal quartz]

Given the tooltip discrepancy, the game-generated ones might handle the rounding differently, or they might just have manually-entered sell values?

In which case that would explain it, because the unrounded unstarred sell value is 20.625 (which would, if rounded normally, round up to 21), and +50% would be 30.9375, rounding up to 31.

You know what's super duper extra weird, though

When you COOK a celebration cake, if you use 3 apples, they top out at 187g each, unstarred...

and if you use blueberries for the fruit frosting, instead, they can be worth a good chunk less - as little as 159g each, unstarred

[teal oyster]

i still wonder why do engame poeple do focus foods party when cakes are the same effort for waaayyy more focus so who cares if u waste half its focus by getting more then u could add to ur 1k bar its still more economical then inferior foods that take the same time and materrial cost to make

[hard matrix]

i used to cook petite fives, 600 focus for star quality food relatively quick

[native stump]

I usually do this too, always sell star cakes for profit and use non-star cakes for focus. Focus food parties are usually quicker than cake parties though, so if I don't have time for cakes, I go for focus foods instead

[teal oyster]

i eat the starry ones to XD mh i never knew cake partys are slower per cook

[mystic horizon]

Not sure if this is the spot or not to ask but anyone with sweet leaf would like to help us get a few cakes going that's the only thing we are lacking now

[delicate elm]

Late reply but when are you looking to make the cakes? I've got sweet leaf but I just logged off for the night, but if you're on tomorrow hmu.

[mortal quartz]

The usual time for 60x Spicy Crab Fried Rice in my circles is about 35 minutes (~35 seconds per round), though that particular recipe is much faster than most. Cake parties that are managing 30 seconds per round, on the other hand, are considered VERY fast. 60s per round is more typical, and some parties are much slower than that.

Petit fives confuse me utterly, though, on every level.

They aren't fast for their focus amount, comparatively, and they have about as many irreducible step layers as cakes (SL -> batter -> oven -> pentagons). Additionally, they not only also have the SL-> frosting dependency chain that cakes have, but they also have a completely separate third chain (fruit paste + cornmeal -> fruit drizzle) WITH a flip step.

As a result, any delay in any one of those chains slows the whole thing down, because one person has to wait for the 1-2 people ahead of them in the chain to complete their tasks.

(Though it's true that with cakes you're doing the whole four-step chain in triplicate - though that also means they can back each other up to some extent.)

That said, I'll agree that they can be both fun to make (especially if you're already used to cakes) and aesthetically pleasing to think about eating. Tiny cakes! What's not to like? XD

[teal oyster]

I do like how thr sirring minigame is much easier then chopping

[zealous raptor]

Hi! Quick question. I'm going to host a cooking event on my plot soon and I'm wondering what the best money maker is nowadays, and what's the best focus food at the moment?

[teal oyster]

focus food in my opinon which ren will write a 3000 words essay about of alternatives
is cake
moneys overprepping epic fish dishes

[zealous raptor]

So focus food = celebration cakes

Any alternatives to epic fish dishes?I'm hosting it for people whose fave hobby in the game is definitely not fishing 🤣

[teal oyster]

yeay u probs dont want to be the one hosting it
@mortal quartz i need ur 3000 word essay about cooking stat

[zealous raptor]

I don't mind hosting it tbh it's for a different server I'm in, and I'm the only one with a proper cooking party kitchen

How about chili oil dumplings?

or poke bowls? I could probably take care of the epic fish needed on my own

[mortal quartz]

"Best focus food" will depend a lot on your group's needs and preferences.

For making gold, the most popular recipes are...

• Poke Bowl with top-tier epic fish and dari clove or heat root salsa — very valuable ingredients, minimum 8 participants (with double roles)
• Sushi with other epic fish — minimum 4 participants
• Fish stew, sashimi, and (imo less preferably) fish tacos with top-tier rare or any-tier epic fish — minimum 2-3 participants
• Celebration Cake with apples for the fruit frosting — minimum 9(?) participants with double/triple roles
• Muujin Bahari with brightshrooms for the chopped mushrooms (optional, still makes fine money with morels) — minimum 9 participants with double/triple roles

In general, the more you split up the ingredients and effort, the better, as long as you don't sacrifice speed.

The fish recipes work best if you have several people rotating in to contribute the fish (and dari cloves if applicable), but they also work well if you have one enthusiastic fisher who just wants to share the wealth!

[mortal quartz]

I only recommend celebration cakes as focus food IF your group is already organized to make them cheaply (i.e., with a full party of 18 players) AND likes food that gives a high amount of focus. (Muujin Bahari is another popular one for that.)

Both of those recipes give more focus than your maximum focus bar if they turn out starred, which makes them not only expensive to eat (even for the unstarred version), but also wasteful, in my opinion, if your group is short on gold (rather than having minimal playtime/energy to spare, like DS's situation). But some people don't care about that and just want to bloopclunk, eat once to fill/mostly-fill the bar, and go.

If the folks you're playing with prefer to eat more often, then there are other, more efficient options, especially if they're newer players who may not have maxed their bars out yet.

[native kelp]

hi. how to use the prep station

[marsh drum]

once you start the recipe at the stove, you're gonna press the interact button and do the chopping mini game at the prep station :)

[raw tartan]

Cooking party 150x apple pie dm me if you're interested starts in 5
everyone is welcome

[viral phoenix]

Does anyone wanna do a cook party?

[crystal compass]

Is there any reason why we cant use starred ingredients?

[teal oyster]

u didnt select the allow starred ingredients checkbox ik its really annoying thats a thing

[crystal compass]

Oh 😭 Thank youu

[teal oyster]

if only they would make it prefer unstarred checkbox
so it will grab starred default and unstarred once u run out that make it so much easier cuz 99% of the time u wanna use starred anyways

[remote heron]

whats the best focus food to make on your own?

[marsh drum]

what's your focus level?

[remote heron]

its about 800

[tiny wraith]

my first cooking party starts at 3am! 😄 its 50x celebration cake! 😄 its on palia party :3

[mortal quartz]

What time is it now?

[tiny wraith]

oh sorry i forgot about time zones haha ots 1:25 am 😄

so in one and a half hour :3

[marsh drum]

I definitely recommend steak dinner!

[remote heron]

thank you sm!

[tiny wraith]

cake party in 45 minutes, make sure to sign up 😄

[viral phoenix]

How do you join it?

@tiny wraith

[tiny wraith]

at palia party :3

[viral phoenix]

I have never used Palia Party before 🙃

[viral phoenix]

Is there a link somewhere?

[tiny wraith]

paliaparty.app

its fairly simple :3

so far though we do not have enough people joining 😦

[viral phoenix]

Surely its simple if its been done before, but i have neither heard of it or done it before.

Oh that sucks 😦

[cold tree]

Do I have ahigher chance of getting starred dishes if I use starred ingredients?

[compact kelp]

I have a cooking related question. Do you get more exp for higher level recipes, or does it not matter which dish you cook?

[teal oyster]

they said it was timer based os the longer it taqkes hte mroe xp per dish

but cakepartys is most xp anyways
i do wonder what could u possibly need coking xp for

[mortal quartz]

Cooking XP per recipe is based on the number of minigame steps the recipe has (so, loosely speaking, it's based on the recipe's complexity).

(For most recipes, the timer is also based on the number of steps.)

In my experience, there's a sweet spot between XP per round and the amount of time it takes to cook. If you're cooking solo, campfire cooking can actually be pretty powerful for just cranking out XP, but otherwise, cooking with others (particularly cake parties, which are often about 1 minute per round) is much faster and cheaper than anything you will do solo.

heykiah often recommends cooking whatever you're going to cook anyway, i.e., for focus food, if you're going to cook solo, as opposed to choosing recipes based on EXP.

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Experience#Cooking

[teal oyster]

or u can campfire during a cooking party but thats pretty tryhard XD

[mortal quartz]

Short answer: yes, but using all starred stuff does not guarantee starred results. There are other factors, plus an unavoidable measure of random chance.

For more discussion, see this post: #🍳│cooking-foraging message

[tiny wraith]

cake party up at paliaparty.app starting in 33 minutes :#

[compact kelp]

@teal oyster @mortal quartz thank you for the answers! I need cooking exp so i could hit level 10 :) I'm still a newer player and im grinding skills while being indecisive about choosing my shepp :)

[mortal quartz]

If you want to get to level 10 in just a few hours: go sweet leaf gathering, then join cake parties! This will also net you a fair bit of money. paliaparty.app and #1143270926394335282 will have listings of public cake parties. (There are other party types, too, of course.)

If you'd rather plug at it solo, I'd recommend either hunting or fishing (to level those, too) and then grill the results. You can set up a circle of 4 campfires to make it more efficient. If you're grilling unstarred fish, in particular, this gives a chance at gaining a 50% value increase whenever the grilled fish turns out starred, which is basically like getting a free fish out of it.

[compact kelp]

I appreciate the advice!

[teal oyster]

oh a few cooking partys should do the trick and u stockpile food that way aswell

another gj from ren the palia chef shepp

[slim halo]

Cooking parts ? what are those 👀

[marsh drum]

a cooking party is where a group of people each take on a role of a recipe to complete repeatedly in order to cook a certain number of dishes! you sign up for the role prior to the cooking party, and make sure the ingredients required for your role (if any) are either in your inventory OR in your storage :)

[slim halo]

Thank you 😀

[errant python]

so i just about finished all my bundles, after blood sweat and tears 😭 the one last thing i'm missing is star quality trout dinner, but i don't have the recipe yet and i don't have the relationship level with einar yet to get the recipe. is anyone willing to cook it together so i can finish the bundles? ty 🙏

[sweet shore]

i will be hopping on in about 15 min if you still need it

[errant python]

my herooo

[grim edge]

anyone wanna come make quick sashimi with me for accomplishment? u dont have to bring anything :)

[hardy oyster]

Hello me and friend are new to palia and we were wondering if anyone would like to join us for a cooking gathering

[whole kestrel]

Hey all. Despite hours of fishing I've had no luck getting that damn sushi recipe. If I party up with someone that does, can I help cook it on their plot and receive the sushi that way? Tia!

^ solved

[pine sail]

would anyone be down for a mini cake party? :) just want to make some extra coins for bit. nothing major!

[jade forum]

I'm currently busy but I'd love to participate at a later date! I prefer mini parties feel free to add me here or in game and we can do one soon on my cooking/feast plot!

[mighty topaz]

i am sure this was asked millions of times before, but since i am lazy, what is best food to cook for focus? but doesnt need rare ingredients , and relatively easy to make (i am not chopping green onions again)

[marsh drum]

what's your focus level!

[mighty topaz]

around 900, will get 1000 soon , since i am dumping all my renown on focus uprades before expanding plot

[marsh drum]

A few of the popular ones are Steak Dinner, Stuffed Cabbage Rolls, Cream of Tomato Soup, Petit Fives, Rice Cake Soup, Rice cake Stir Fry, Chili Oil Dumplings, and Spicy Crab Fried Rice! These have varying focus amounts depending on if you don't mind being a little below max focus as well as if you prefer cooking solo or joining parties!

[mortal quartz]

What kiah said, but we could probably narrow it down for you a bit :)

Are you cooking solo or in groups? i.e., could you do a recipe that needs green onions if someone else was willing to chop them?

[polar barn]

does the lucky braised fish provide any buffs or just focus?

[mortal quartz]

Just focus - more than will fit in your focus bar, actually, even unstarred

[undone mulch]

100 x celebration cake just added to the party app. Come cook. 😊

[modern rivet]

If anyone’s doing a cake party I’m down I got a ton of ingredients and a big kitchen

[modern rivet]

What’s party app? Is that something for finding people to cake with sorry just coming back to the game after a year or so so missing out on some stuff

[slow flint]

If a recipe says “ready to cook” and I don’t have an ingredient, does that mean the other person that is in my party/at my plot has the ingredient? I noticed it with steak dinner where I had 0 wheat

[modern rivet]

Oh I gotta look this app up cause I have 100’s of all the cake ingredients

[mortal quartz]

It's not actually an app - just a website.
https://paliaparty.app

[dull light]

Anyone know where the best place to find star quality spice sprouts are?

[mortal quartz]

Spice sprouts in general (including the ~10-20 percent chance of starred ones spawning) can be found in Mirror Fields and around (west/a little south) of the farmhouse.

It is also possible to get starred ones in the ingredients bags from the prize wheel in the Underground (uses coins from playing hotpot down there)

10 percent chance of getting 3 starred spice sprouts from one ingredients bag, which you get 45 percent of the time when spinning the prize wheel. So, if I did my math right... 4.5 percent chance overall of one spin on the wheel giving you 3 starred sprouts.

215 spins to have an overall 50/50 chance of ending up with 30 starred spice sprouts... that's somewhere between 215 and 430 games of hotpot per stack.

Conclusion: go run laps in western Kilima 😂 and gather the unstarred ones as you go

But... most of the time you will not need starred sprouts

[mortal quartz]

What are you collecting them for, out of curiosity?

[dull light]

its ok I found some in the end

[dire violet]

I would love some help when th Cooking, does anyone want to join me.

[radiant tusk]

Lucky Braised Fish Party in an Hour! If your interested, please sign up at this Palia Party :3 Can't wait to see ya'll there!

https://paliaparty.app/jslb97

[tough gazelle]

hi, sorry if this is a noobish question. Is there an ideal way to level cooking? Im level 5 right now and i feel like i dont really have much options, food wise. I'd really like to get to 10 as fas as possible but not sure what meal will help me so i can go bulk farm the ingredients.

[marsh drum]

if you prefer cooking solo i personally recommend to just keep cooking mass amounts of focus food for yourself since you will always have use for it, or campfire cooking like ren recommended here #🍳│cooking-foraging message ! if you are open to group cooking then definitely join a cooking or cake party! if you're unsure how those work i can explain more :)

[mortal quartz]

What kiah said, but also: grill all of the unstarred fish you plan to sell, as that's both XP and money.

If you don't care about money/focus, you can also grill anything else that will go on the grill (i.e., meat from hunting, morels from foraging - or bought from the General store, oysters, etc.)

Multiple campfires can knock the time per recipe down to ~5 seconds if you rotate among them

But before all of that: make sure you upgrade your focus bonus at the Phoenix Shrine in NW Kilima (behind Phoenix Falls)

That plus keeping yourself fed is the single biggest factor in how much effort it takes to level.

But all of the solo/grindy methods absolutely pale in comparison to the XP from organized cooking parties

Celebration Cake is very slow/expensive to cook solo, but if you get together with ~18 others, you only have to bring what is needed for the part you're covering, which makes it relatively cheap. Even with zero focus in your bar (no focus bonus), that recipe gives 340 XP per round.

And in an organized party, one round typically takes about 1 minute: ~5.6 base XP per second.

For comparison, top-speed campfire cooking is about 5 seconds for 20 base XP, or 4 base XP/second... and you blow through ingredients much faster.

(and it's boring)

[tough gazelle]

thank you for the info! Ive never cooked in groups, and dont really have a lot of recipes or ingredients at hand so i doubt id be able to join a cooking party, sadly. But I'll just keep cooking focus food and see where that gets me lol

[marsh drum]

there's actually free roles you can join for cake parties that dont require any ingredients but are absolutely welcomed!

[mortal quartz]

(someone else PLEASE sign up for oven 😂 )

Reminds me of one acquaintance who has described being obsessed with the "ding!" sound the oven makes when it finishes :)

[marsh drum]

thats so real tho its very satisfying

[mortal quartz]

Oven will put me right to sleep if I'm not careful, so as a result I spend the whole time counting to 10 with fierce concentration @_@ and then I need a nap

[dense wharf]

Hey, idk if I’m allowed to ask here, but does anyone wanna cook together at some point?

[teal oyster]

u are allowed to ask that here this is the place maybe not the bestest place but its definitly one of em

[unreal trail]

does anyone know if oyster meat is used for anything or is it ok to just grill and sell(?)

[twilit stratus]

https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Oysters_Akwinduu

This is all I could think of, but I'm not an expert.

[unreal trail]

oooh thank you!!!

[mortal quartz]

In addition to oysters Akwinduu, oyster meat is used for:

• bouillabaisse
• crab gumbo
  https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Oyster_Meat#Cooking-0

None of the recipes it's used for are particularly gold-efficient focus food, nor are they particularly good money for the time and ingredients involved. However, it might not hurt to hang onto a handful of oyster meat (starred, maybe) for helping other players with the cook-all-the-things accomplishments and/or villagers' weekly wants.

If you want to turn a profit from your oyster meat, I suggest feeding it raw to glow worms. Both starred and unstarred oyster meat increase in value by 29g (quadrupling or tripling their starting value) when turned into glow worms and HarvestBoost fertilizer.

That said, grilling your oysters will get the meat processed and gone much faster and will earn you some cooking XP, so that might be a reason to go that route, if you don't need the money but do need the storage space quickly.

[unreal trail]

ahh I'll feed them to worms then thanks!

[dire violet]

Where is the best place to find Briar Daisys? Thank you

[earnest bough]

I go hunting on top of pulsewater plains close to hideaway bluff

[dire violet]

Thank you

[urban bridge]

They can spawn on top of any clifftop in Bahari Bay, here's a map of possible spawn locations
https://www.paliamaps.com/

[dire violet]

@urban bridge really appreciate the map!! Thank you so much.

[peak sphinx]

is it possible to make the lucky braised fish without help?

[marsh drum]

yes all recipes are able to be made solo!

[peak sphinx]

oh. ok i have failed 4 or 5 times for running out of time

[urban bridge]

It can be, but it's a bit challenging for many.
This may help you out, it's a recommended order for the steps listed here on the wiki when doing it solo
https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Lucky_Braised_Fish#Tips_and_Tricks

[peak sphinx]

omg tysm!

[urban bridge]

Helped me out a lot in the beginning

[prisma dagger]

I'm like desperately trying to figure out if there's a recipe that uses fish that technically sells more than just raw fish lol anyone know of some recipes? I've been making grilled fish for focus so wanted to look into maybe some recipes that could help

[marsh drum]

really the only profit comes from grilled fish otherwise the recipes cost more than they sell for! ren explains it best here #🍳│cooking-foraging message ! but what's your focus level?

linked the wrong message whoops

[prisma dagger]

Uh good question.... I think last I saw was 31 but I've been bouncing around different games I can't at the moment remember clearly it's 2am my brain ain't working lol

Thank you for your help! I should probably look back and read everything once I've rested LOL

[fervent harness]

Question 🤔🤔 if I use only starred ingredients, why does not the dish turn out to be starred? 🤔🤔 I need a starred dish, and now I wasted my starred trout on getting a non starred dish 🤔🤔

[halcyon verge]

did u mess up on any of the skill things?

[fervent harness]

Nope, did everything correctly 🤷‍♀️

[halcyon verge]

hmmm.. im not too sure then ):

[jade forum]

There's always a chance of the dish coming out unstarred- using all starred ingredients just increases that chance of a starred output* the most you can! Just keep trying!

[fervent harness]

Out catching more trout then 😅😅

[halcyon verge]

if u want u can add me and i can see if i can help u get a starred trout dish if u need

[fervent harness]

Okay :3 this your in-game name?

[halcyon verge]

Starla Stardust yup :3

[mortal quartz]

When cooking solo, fish stew made using all unstarred ingredients is worth more unstarred than the ingredients are, just barely, and if you star it (maxes out at ~50 percent chance if you're speedy/good at chopping garlic/at a higher cooking level) it gains +50 percent in value over the unstarred version.

The reason this is true for fish stew is that it has

• no store bought ingredients (cost double what they contribute to dish sell value)
• no produce (which usually must be starred past a certain level in gardening and also can be processed in other ways to increase their value)

If you use starred stuff, this advantage disappears as you ONLY profit if the dish turns out starred.

The star rate does get higher, but never to 100 percent

This is all just cooking solo, though

Cooking in groups is different math

[mortal quartz]

One of the better ways to take advantage of this property of fish stew, imo, is to get together with a fishing friend (or several). You all take turns starting the recipe (fish + spice), chopping garlic, and stirring the pot to finish the dish (free role). That way, you basically split the contribution of the fish, spice, and garlic among you over multiple rounds.

If you have more than 3 people, the additional ones can also chop garlic. As long as they finish chopping before the stir finishes, they get credit for the dish. (It's helpful to wait a little to give everyone time, but not too long, as time-to-completion is one of the factors in whether the dish turns out starred.)

This also allows you to profit from starred fish as well, since you are splitting the cost with others — and higher-value starred fish will result in the dish being starred more of the time.

This also works with e.g. sashimi (and divides the fish role from the spice contribution), which is why you'll see sashimi parties up on PaliaParty.app pretty frequently. Sashimi needs the overprep folks to have lots of rice already grown, which requires advanced planning, whereas garlic can be bought from the general store at the last minute if need be. (That said, all you have to do for rice is start it on the stove and stir, which is easier for people who are not as comfortable with chopping.)

Same idea with fish tacos, but I'm... frankly biased against fish tacos 😂 The folks on corn have to fight the UI to start their task, since it comes after the fish on the prep table, plus rolling takes a long time. You end up with "oops" fish (wastes the fish), and it's a struggle to keep the time-to-completion short. (Even worse, corn takes a whopping 5 days to grow, compared to 3 for rice—66% longer—but it only contributes 48% more value than rice to the dish sell value... and it's still minuscule compared to the fish.)

[dire violet]

If there are two of us In a party cooking do we both have to have the ingredients to cook or just one of us?

[feral plume]

Technically speaking, the one with the ingredients can start everything for the other to do. But you need to have the starting ingredients to start the recipe

[snow jetty]

i keep hearing about cooking parties how can i join those?

[tawny heart]

#1143270926394335282
You can usually see a bunch of parties of all kinds, cooking and hunting and bug hunting. The cooking ones should contain links to rhe palia party app webstite where you can get more details about what's up for that party and which roles are still available ro sign up for

[snow jetty]

thank you!

[brave sable]

!cookingbug

omg yes, this means everything works right

[mortal quartz]

Yes, the recipes that were broken a couple patches ago have been fixed :)

There are still a couple of glitches and anomalies, but the Luna New Year recipes are craftable

[wide dust]

Can someone clue me in on where the sushi recipe comes from I’m so lost

[mortal quartz]

(lmao at your display name!) Sushi recipe is a very low drop chance from ponds with glow worms, and CANNOT be caught from nodes (bubbles/hotspots).

You can even fish it up on your home plot, which is always a pond even if you have a landscape that makes it look like something else

[wide dust]

THANK YOU omg i would have NEVER gotten it without that info haha

[halcyon vortex]

Is anyone on now that's willing to cook with me? Not a party, I just need another person to help me with one of the accomplishments (and yes, 3 dishes for the weekly one as well)

[fallow crane]

Does anyone have the sushi and fish stew recipe? I've been fishing for them for what feels like ages and I've only gotten the sashimi...that was months ago lol

[slim tiger]

This might be a dumb question, or a question that's been answered already. But is there a bug currently for cooking with star ingredients? I could have sworn that when you select that option, not every ingredient had to be starred, it just selected the starred ingredients you had available.

I'm running low on certain regular crops (rice, carrots, etc.), and it's making it hard to cook anything that requires those recipes if I don't have other starred items like ginger or green onions.

[mortal quartz]

What happens when you try to start a recipe where you don't have starred items for some of the ingredients? Can you share a screenshot, maybe?

[fallow crane]

im just missing the fish stew if anyone has it 🙂

[fallen moat]

I have tried to make the macarons but i keep failing, I don't normally party up because I am so nervous about messing up and making everyone mad, plus I don't know how they work and what I should bring

[teal oyster]

if they get mad at u its on them even when u mess everything up
we can do that dish together

i will get mad if u mess up though 🤣 but its fine its real simple what u gotto do do any step of a minigame and ur good

[fallen moat]

lol, makin me nervous with the "mad" talk, haha thanks for offering, still have ingredients to gather... I can't today, let me know when you are on next and will try

[teal oyster]

uhm u do not have to gather any ingredients though

[fallen moat]

I don't??

[teal oyster]

aslong as the poeple in ahte party TOGETHER have the ingredients its fine

like i can start a step and make u finish the minigame while also starting the recipe
starting recipe/doing any minigame makes u eligibnle to get the meal to once its done

its usually faster if poeple can start their own steps though but its not requried

[teal oyster]

if u got 5min we be done

[fallen moat]

ok, well I am in game now if you are up for it, my plot or yours?

[teal oyster]

someone who asks questions when not u nderstanding something ok i might just not get mad at u at all 😄

[teal oyster]

either is fine by me

[fallen moat]

ign is Kristy Hunter

[teal oyster]

uhm then whos the bcangel42 i befriended

[fallen moat]

that is my steam name

wait, I think i have a lost character, lol

[teal oyster]

mh u can do /nick BcAngel42 (IGN: Kristy Hunter)

for example

[fallen moat]

lol i got your request, see u ig

[teal oyster]

u accepted but i gotto relog to c it

[coral dew]

What is this recipe called I can't find it?

[marsh drum]

It's not available to us!

[coral dew]

Oh crap really?

[marsh drum]

yeah not yet at least! we have sushi, sashimi, and onigiri as of rn tho if youre looking for a decor alternative or something

[mortal quartz]

A maki recipe would be so cool, though

[marsh drum]

YESS

i hope we get new recipes soon i love cooking for the funsies

[exotic crescent]

does anyone know a work around for the paliaparty site? I cannot acess it through any link, browser, or device. It just says that its not a secure site and offers me no way to pass through anyway

[mortal quartz]

Are you accessing PaliaParty**.app** ?

[exotic crescent]

I'm trying to. is it an actual app im supposed to download somewhere? If so I can't find where to do that. when I click on the links in discord it tried to bring me to a website that I cannot open.

.app, not .com

[mortal quartz]

No, there isn't an app

My browser and antivirus aren't fussing about it; could you share a screenshot of your browser window when you try to visit the site?

(sounds like either your browser or your antivirus is unhappy about it)

[exotic crescent]

this is the same whether I'm in firefox, chrome, edge, or safari

[mortal quartz]

Oh, lol, that's a new one! Lemme google. The site is secure, but the verification process is not able to finish.

May I DM you?

[exotic crescent]

yes, thanks for asking!

[storm smelt]

Hello guys 🙂
I have two questions, hope someone can answer 🙂

1. I found a video on youtube, someone said if u above 50 in gardening you get only star quality, i am not shure if its right. But if it is, is it also for cooking? That u get only star quality if you are above lvl 50?

2. If you have the "Better together" Buff, can u get more of cooking too?

[teal oyster]

Gardening 25 starred seeds starred produce only 38 unstarred seeds starred produce only

[teal oyster]

2 idk that buff u mean party buff cuz to my knowledge that dont give a bonus to cooking

[storm smelt]

yeah its the party buff.
So is there some chances in quality if you are a higher level on cooking too?
Thanks so far ! 🙂

[teal oyster]

I think cooking lv matters but its so random

[delicate elm]

1. Cooking is still random and afaik being in a party doesn't change the RNG for whether the dish comes out starred. Your best chances to get a starred dish is to have all starred ingredients and to complete all the mini games without failing (chopping, mixing, etc) in the fastest time possible but even then, it is still random and you can still do all the things perfectly with all starred and occasionally it ends up nonstarred.

2. Unfortunately being in a party doesn't give you a chance at more food. It just makes recipes go quicker and you personally have to use less of your own ingredients so you can make more food in less time. Also, you don't have to be in an actual "in game party" to cook with people as long as each person does at least one step in the recipe they get the food at the end.

[prisma dagger]

Me and a friend cooked at their place and I did like 2 steps out of 3 and they did the last one
They picked up the food and got it and I didn't get anything....am I misunderstanding how this works or lol

[teal oyster]

Did u start the recipe or do a minigame?

[prisma dagger]

I started the recipe

[teal oyster]

U should have gotten

[prisma dagger]

That's what I thought too lol so I'm bamboozled

[delicate elm]

I'm not super knowledgeable with the various recipes but I know there are few that you have to make sure you're doing an action like cutting or mixing for it to count.

If all they did was just put the food in the oven at the end as the last step that one will not count. Best bet is to make sure you're each doing an ingredient then you shouldn't have any issues.

[mortal quartz]

re point #2: "party" terminology can be a little confusing. There is the informal player term "cooking party," as in birthday party: "lots of people in one place for a purpose" and then there is the formal game mechanic party that gives the buff, as in adventuring party.

You don't need to be in an adventuring party to get the food from cooking together, and the buff does not benefit the actual cooking in any way. (It also does not buff XP gain; I hear that one sometimes, too.)

The reason to form an adventuring party while cooking is that cooking earns a lot of XP pretty fast and there is an accomplishment for earning amounts of XP while under the party buff.

[mortal quartz]

To further expand...
To get credit for cooking a dish you must either:

• start the recipe
• complete a recipe minigame: chop, mix, roll, stir, flip, or remove an ingredient - not finished dish - from an oven

If one person begins a minigame with their ingredient and then leaves the station, then another person uses the ingredient left on the station to finish the minigame, then the person who did the minigame gets credit, and the person who put the ingredient down does not (unless they did something else).

"Add Ingredients" also does not count without an attached minigame.

[delicate elm]

Yes, thank you for the clarification. From how I read it, they were referring to being in a party with their friend not a cook party so that's what I was referencing but I probably should've made that clearer.

[mortal quartz]

I run into that point of confusion very often XD

[mortal quartz]

Out of curiosity, what was the recipe you started?

[prisma dagger]

It was bacon stuffed mushrooms

[fallen moat]

I just found out that you can have a BBQ, just finished the quest for it...it is so small n cute.... for those who want it, take a look in Hadari's house . something in there will give you a quest, the bbq (Grill Master 3000) is one of the rewards

[teal oyster]

If van only we could have more then 1

[still monolith]

little help please ,
which station i need to make a additional ... Mixing or preparing ?
i try make for first time macarons for quest ...

[jade forum]

You need another mixing station- the recipe starts on one and then you need a second station to mix sweet leaf on!

[still monolith]

thank you very much

YEY made it , ty ty for help

[dim terrace]

quick question, to do cake parties as a leafer, can they be regular sweetleaf or does it have to be starred sweet leaf? And how many do i need?

Im at like 50 rn

[teal oyster]

yes and yes

[dim terrace]

so it can be regular sweetleaf? how many do i need, 100?

[jade forum]

Yes, regular, and you'll need however many that you're making in the cake party- if you're going to a 50x (this means 50 rounds) party, you'll need 50 sweet leaf

But you'll walk away with ~150 cakes since each round results in 3 cakes!

[teal oyster]

u cant possibly get enuff starredsweetleaf so its allowed
and if u wont do anything else that specifically needs ur sweet leaf starred use em to get more starred cake

[teal oyster]

i get less cuz i eat the cake as focus food ....

[dim terrace]

okay perfect, thanks for the help!

[jade forum]

That's valid! I eat the unstarred ones

[teal oyster]

focus is why i attent cake partys in the first place XD

i eat both starred and unstarred for months

[dim terrace]

so we need focus for the cake party, even as leafers?

[jade forum]

No you never need focus, it's just a bonus mechanic for additional xp on top of the base level xp you gain from the actions in game

[dim terrace]

oh gotcha, sry im a total newby lol

[jade forum]

XP is totally personal gain and preference

[jade forum]

No worries, happy to elaborate!

[teal oyster]

everyone who participates in cooking together gets full xp and focus is extra yeay

[rain hazel]

wonder why every sashimi party calls for participants to bring 200 rice

that seems like an awful lot and usually i don't have that much on hand

[teal oyster]

becuz they need u to overprep 200times

[rain hazel]

seems like people host these epic fish parties because a lot of other people don't have tons of epic fish lying around but it's a really easy way to make a lot of money

dunno where people get 200 epic fish

[teal oyster]

lv9999 fishing players

[rain hazel]

i wonder how people have that much time on their hands and not get bored

[halcyon verge]

what dishes are these?

[fast dirge]

I believe they are recipes you get at the Reth’s register in the New Year Market

[halcyon verge]

i believe ive bought all those

and made them

ill have to double check bc i have no idea what those are Dx

[fast dirge]

It should be the steamed fish, lucky braised fish and I think the kimchi dish, I can’t remember if it’s soup or fried rice

[mortal quartz]

Lucky braised fish is not required for the accomplishment, thank goodness

[mortal quartz]

They are all of the recipes you can buy at the Tavern/Inn cash register (or from Reth's cash register in the Underground, same list). The ones that are exclusive to the LNY market are not included in the accomplishment.

The ones you are missing are Steamed Fish, Kimchi Fried Rice, and Stuffed Cabbage rolls.

The wiki also helpfully has visual lists for all of the completion accomplishments, if you need to look up any of the others.

[halcyon verge]

tysm!

[mortal quartz]

I agree, 200x is a LOT to expect people to regularly accumulate. Rice grows fast, at least, but it still requires at least 1 hour of playtime (or so) per unit rice per tile in your garden dedicated to it.

I more usually see 100x sashimi parties, which is still too long for me! lol

[mortal quartz]

Usually it's not just one person contributing fish; people take turns, so like for a 200x each person might bring 30 or 40. Sashimi is also generally rare fish, not epic... hence the very large numbers, because you get rare fish about 5x the rate of epic fish.

But, sometimes you end up with folks who have just accumulated a bunch of fish because they haven't been able to make it to other parties shrug

Also, usually if you are OP, you don't have to stay for the whole party. If you have 200 extra rice, then great! Bring 200 rice. But if you only have 100 or 50 or 20 rice, then you could show up with just those, do your rice, and then either leave or maybe stay and be social. It depends on the host's rules, of course.

[whole pebble]

My boyfriend and I were freaking out. Lol

We found like 7 flow trees at Bahari - Beachcomber Cove, and had no flares. Thankfully he ventured elsewhere and got someone to come get the trees.

It was west of the waypoint.

Sadly, there was no one in the server when we discovered the trees.

[rugged crescent]

is sashimi recpie rare?

i was fishing about 30 minutes and i cant get it :(

[jade forum]

All recipes that you can fish up are fairly rare and can take quite some time to catch. Just be sure you're not fishing in the bubble spots- recipes only come from normal water with no star quality bubbles

[teal oyster]

outside bubbles only

yeay im repeating that part cuz its super important

[rugged crescent]

that explains

i thougth its a common recipe co it will be easy

[teal oyster]

i still think its really annoying that u cant get em in bubbles -cries in monument of starred fish for fish stew attempts-

[rugged crescent]

i have no luck i this game i swear

especially with fishing

[teal oyster]

i have insane dry streaks and then jackpots its kinda weird its almost as if theres a pity system in place

[rugged crescent]

i actually quit the game becsaue no plushie, no rare fish for bundles

back to game and cought void ray

i almost cried

[teal oyster]

girlt hats not how u get fish first u go to the fishing channel then u complain for the specific fish then u try again in bubbles and then u request and unstarred one from someone

[rugged crescent]

really?

[teal oyster]

YES!!! why poeple always assume im joking

[rugged crescent]

im not assmunig u are joking

[teal oyster]

great ok go do what i said

[rugged crescent]

im just surprised xD

[teal oyster]

u still havent done it

[rugged crescent]

i dont undersatnd the part - fishing channel

[teal oyster]

https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1160984829463113838

[peak sphinx]

back to cooking... anyone know why most of the time my recipes only give me 2 finished dishes, instead of 3? It says x3 but i only get x2 most of the time.

[jade forum]

This means you missed a flipping or stirring type step and it bumps it down to 2 portions instead of 3 when missed. Are you making something like chapaa masala with several flips?

[peak sphinx]

yes that and chili dumplings

[teal oyster]

Wait so missing a minigame like stir/flip reduces the amount instead of fail

[peak sphinx]

oh

[halcyon pine]

Wait so xp doesn't matter when hunting,fishing,bug catching?????

[teal oyster]

Sadly nope lvs matters slightly for cooking and alot for gardrning though but u do need lv10 for some stuff

[mortal quartz]

Leveling up in non-gardening, non-cooking skills has a few purposes:

Levels 1-10: unlock new recipes for better tools and other items to assist you

Level 10+: each level up earns you 10 guild medals, which can be used to purchase special furnishings and also items relevant to the skill. I use foraging medals to buy dari cloves, for example. Fishing medals can be used to buy hooks (boosters) that give you a very powerful fishing buff and last for 25 catches each. To get the new Spa Day set, you need furniture crafting medals... etc.
However, the weekly challenges will also earn you 100 medals per week in each skill, so it's not like you earn ZERO medals if you level up more slowly.

Number go up is fun! (not true for everybody, but for some)

You can earn up to double XP if you keep yourself stocked on focus, so you progress/earn guild medals faster, but since you still earn the base XP for everything (as fern explained), it's not strictly necessary. You can ignore focus entirely and take the game at a slower pace! (The level cap for each skill is 9,999, also.)

[burnt harness]

Anyone wanna cook together in a bit? I need to level up my cooking, but I imagine it’s more fun doing together 😇

[latent sigil]

Hi everyone, there's pallium in 6D on the cliff for those who want

(Sorry if this is the wrong channel it's my first message)

[tawny heart]

It's not so much that this is the wrong channel (but it would go in #🐟│fishing-mining ) but rather that there's so many different servers in game that there's little chance someone here is in the same as you. It's more useful to call it out in the in game chat

[latent sigil]

Oh okay, thank you very much! ♥️

[mortal quartz]

It definitely is! If you'd like, you can also check out #1143270926394335282 and PaliaParty.app for cooking parties folks are running :)

[vestal granite]

poke bowls aprox 280 K + some other stuff

[teal oyster]

rice should be turned into seeds first and iron just craft builder blocks for xp XD silk uhm how u got so much to spare

[mortal quartz]

RTB plushie hunting, though I accumulate a lot just from gathering sweet leaf/general squirrelling since I try to catch any rare or epic bug I see XD

[teal oyster]

ic how u managed to get soo much that it become sworth the effort to sell then

[mortal quartz]

Some friends who have been going really hard on the lures and stuff have like... six looms going at once

[teal oyster]

thats so muhc furniture xp like so so much

[torpid ferry]

Is anybody online in willing to help me make creamy mushroom soup? I don't have the recipe but I Need the dish for a quest

[dark crater]

do u still need the dish?

[torpid ferry]

Thank you, got it already

[dark crater]

okie!

[honest mountain]

Ok I’m confused where is my recipes

[mortal quartz]

tacos start at the prep station
pies start at the oven

[vestal granite]

yeah true but I was lazy and needed asap space for full storage. I have so much silk because I've been grinding rtb plushies since the last patch xD

[vestal granite]

that is me

[teal oyster]

Mh u coild stock up on curtains or beds/couches with it but that does take some other items to

[wintry zinc]

what causes dishes to not come in a stack of three? i'm assuming things like failing the minigames or missing timers

[marsh drum]

yeah it means you missed a stirring or a flipping step!

[thick flare]

are there any cake parties going on right now

[noble anvil]

wauw thank you so much, I only realised this just now. I've been wondering why all my new recipes didn't show up 🙂

[jovial berry]

Is the cooking bug fixed where we couldn't use green onions or whatever? It's been a couple months since I've played

[native panther]

I'm back after a long break. Are cake parties still a thing? What's more common now? TY!

[teal oyster]

partys are sitll a thing

[marsh drum]

cake parties are still very common and you can find them in #1143270926394335282 or paliaparty.app ! there's other cooking parties as well like muujin bahari, epic sushi, apple pie, etc

[violet prawn]

What food do you find has the best "quick to make/high focus" ratio?

[urban bridge]

Starred Chili Oil Dumplings are still my favorite go to focus food, 525 focus each.
They are quick, easy and cheap to make. I only have to buy the oil, the rest of the items I hunt, grow, or forage for

[marsh drum]

Are you max focus?

[crisp flint]

do people still do cooking parties? i saw some when i played a year ago but i dont know where to find them now.

[urban bridge]

Yep, in here #1143270926394335282

[violet prawn]

Very close to, five more visits to the shrine

[marsh drum]

its been a while since ive maxxed focus, what level are you at right now

[violet prawn]

To be max focus bar, it's just one more visit (level 990 rn) and max focus bonus is 96% (4 more visits to get 100%)

[marsh drum]

ahh okay okay ! some popular ones are Steak Dinner, Stuffed Cabbage Rolls, Cream of Tomato Soup, Petit Fives, Rice Cake Soup, Rice cake Stir Fry, Chili Oil Dumplings, and Spicy Crab Fried Rice ! all of these have varying focus amounts depending on if you don't mind being a little below max focus as well as if you prefer cooking solo or joining parties

if you want quick to make solo cooking i personally think steak dinner is the best!

[violet prawn]

I used to regularly join parties but it's getting difficult being able to attend the times they're on, I've been trying to cook to keep focus up but it drains so quick and I am spending sooooo much time cooking and I'm totally sick of it 😂

[violet prawn]

Sweet, I think I will just keep smashing out steak dinners, probs the best fit because I hunt a lot, thank you!

[marsh drum]

glad i could help :D

[mortal quartz]

I need to connect you with my friend who loves steak dinner as her primary focus food!

It's also my favorite for cake party snacks (1 starred steak dinner exactly covers 1 round of cakes)

[urban shoal]

Mine always been starred petit fives! 600 focus, easy & quick to make, just a few steps needed
Not always use starred sweet leaf cause sometimes it came out starred

[urban shoal]

I think the unstarred is around 450-475

Or maybe 400, i dont really remember

[mortal quartz]

It's 400 :) Starred is always +50% focus and +50% gold from the unstarred version.

[low patio]

anyone know a faster way to upskill cooking to lvl 10 without having to make a million ramen and grilled fish?

[marsh drum]

if you're wanting to cook solo, mass cooking grilled fish or the focus food you regularly eat is the best way! if you're open to joining a cooking party than i recommend that as well

[low patio]

somwhat ive found so far is hunt a ton of chaapa, then set up 6 campfires in a curcle and go around repeatedly collecting and cooking grilled meat 🙂

[teal oyster]

5 is enuff actually xd

[mortal quartz]

As kiah said, cooking parties will level you up considerably faster, especially cake parties (large XP, faster recipe than the few that give even more XP)

However, campfire cooking is pretty fast if you rotate around several fires - and if you're fishing anyway, it's a good way to get more money out of the unstarred common and uncommon fish that you already plan to sell.

(and as an aside, oof, ramen is oddly expensive for the amount of focus)

[mortal quartz]

But the biggest tip I have is to make sure you are upgrading your focus bonus percent at the Phoenix Shrine behind Phoenix Falls in NW Kilima. As long as you keep yourself fed, that will increase your XP gain by whatever the percentage is. It caps at 100 percent.

[trim frost]

hey ! Can someone with the sushi recipe cook with me ?

[hushed sapphire]

Yes, but it was almost 30 minutes ago. So i guess that you finished

[trim frost]

yep thanks

[honest mountain]

anyone cookin i really wanna level up my cooking skill

[mortal quartz]

Check #1143270926394335282 :D

[honest mountain]

I swear garlic is non existent I got one in an hour of running around bahari bay

[mortal quartz]

It shares spawn points with sundrop lilies, so be sure you pick those too to reroll the node

(same as sweet leaf and morels up north)

[mortal quartz]

but it's uncommon rarity so it's not always easy to find
from palia.th.gl

Sometimes if I'm not having any luck at all I go climb those southern cliffs inside flooded fortress and oh, that's where they all ended up lmao

You can also buy garlic from the general store if you really need it in a hurry

[clear sail]

I am going to be hosting my first ever cooking party and streaming it Saturday however I have no idea what we should make, any suggestions? When I started cake parties were popular but they don't seem to be anymore..

[teal oyster]

they are popular infact so popular poeple use a special app for em

[clear sail]

I just wasnt sure people are still doing them as I dont see it much online

[teal oyster]

i attent em i got tons of sweetleaf to burn and i eat the starred/unstarred cake as focus food ....
for money epic fish partys are the best

[mortal quartz]

I would suggest hosting a recipe that you are very familiar and comfortable with, if it's your first time hosting.

The popular money parties are:

• Cakes with starred apples for fruit frosting (yes, still!)
• Poke Bowl with starred, top-tier epic fish and dari salsa (or sometimes heat root salsa)
• Sashimi with starred rare glow worm fish (cloudfish and blue spotted rays, mainly)
• Fish stew with same fish (often with heat root as the "any spice")
• Muujin Bahari

And other recipes are popular as focus foods.

However, lots of cooking parties are currently on hold because people are busy doing bug hunting runs XD So you might be filling a niche!

[rain hazel]

what's better for money? sushi or poke bowls? this is assuming they're epic

[mortal quartz]

(not my graphics work)
but the answer is poke bowls, because the total of the ingredients' unstarred sell value is higher than sushi's, even if you aren't using fancy spices (heat root or dari) in the salsa.

[teal oyster]

but what is most cost effective to run as a party

[lavish musk]

Can someone help me make fried catfish dinner & fish stew pls?

[mortal quartz]

Depends on how you're reckoning it

If you're a person bringing dari or epic fish, poke bowls are a better return on your effort investment, but can be slightly harder to organize due to needing three people to bring rare/epic spices, instead of two for sushi.

[frail moon]

Anyone have trout dinner recipe? i wanna do it for the bundle

[inner mesa]

Hey is anybody around that could help me make a starred trout dinner please?

[tardy bobcat]

If anyone needs trout dinner, catfish, fish stew, etc -- I can help you later tonight after 6pm EST. You can send me an FR and come to my plot.

[hybrid violet]

still looking?

[inner mesa]

Somebody helped me cook it but thanks😊

[bleak cairn]

Would anyone like to come by and cook some Lucky Braised Fish with me?

I have enough to make x5, so could use some starred ginger and Bass fish

[strange loom]

Is there a way to limit the over prep when you create a party?

[mortal quartz]

Not in advance. The only way is to keep an eye on it and lock the roles once they are full, but that can go wrong quickly.

[dapper peak]

Hey where can I get cotton please?

[mortal quartz]

You have options!

• if you need cotton itself, you can grow it in your garden from cotton seeds (5 days, 2 cotton per plant, or 3 cotton with successful harvest boost buff)
• can buy cotton itself from the farm stand cash register for 180g each

If you need fabric:

• craft from 2 cotton using a loom (unlocked furniture level 2)
• buy from furniture store cash register for 190g each
• if you are very early game, a few quests award it, including the one to find shells for Jel for dye

[tawny heart]

Huh? My answer to that question that I sent soon after they asked disappeared for no reason. What's up with that?

[marsh drum]

you answered in outfit cosmetics they asked in multiple chats!

[tawny heart]

Oooh, yeah, ok. I knew I'd answered that question somewhere lol

[sweet girder]

Anyone interested in completing the social chef/starred social chef? I have most, if not all, starred ingredients. Just need someone to join in and cook with me!

[limpid osprey]

I need to cook 2 starred meals with someone if you still need this?

[sweet girder]

which ones do you need?

[limpid osprey]

Oh I meant in general cook with someone for the weekly. My bad.😅 I’m cooking sushi with someone rn, but I can join you after? You can pick what things you need for your achievement. I’m cool with anything.✨

[trim flax]

can I not use starred blueberries for pie

[teal oyster]

Allow starred checkbox

[trim flax]

no wonder i couldnt use my berries

[teal oyster]

Allow starred checkbox

[jagged parcel]

any one able to help me get trout dinner someone with the recipe ofc

[jade forum]

I have it, you can add me and come over right now if you're on!

[jagged parcel]

Whats ur user ? 😄

[jade forum]

Fern Xander! Lemme hop back on, of course I literally just logged ofd

[jagged parcel]

send a friend request 😄

[jagged parcel]

stuck in the loading screen ima have to do a quick restart

[jade forum]

That's alright! No rush

[jagged parcel]

Thanks for the help 😄

[jade forum]

Not a problem! Assuming you're using one for the bundle, save those other trout dinners as fishing boost foods!

[honest mountain]

How do I get the trout dinner recipe?

[marsh drum]

it's in ||Einar's cave!||

[polar barn]

does anyone know how many stacks of an ingredient I should bring to a cooking party?

[obtuse condor]

depends on the cooking party and what role you signed up for. like, if you join a 60x cake party as a leafer, you need 60 sweetleaf - if it's a 100x cake party you'd need 100

[naive mesa]

i would bring extra for misclicks and just in case xyz

[polar barn]

thanks! and yeah thats a good idea bout extras

I'm making my starred apples into preseves rn but i'll save at least 100

[marsh drum]

just so you know, you don't technically need to bring it with you, other plots can access your chest inventory as well if you don't want to keep it in your personal inventory! But just making sure you have the required number like mogikarp said

[polar barn]

will it automatically pull from my inventory when I cook on other people's plots? Or do I have to access my inventory from a chest at their house?

[marsh drum]

yes it automatically pulls from your chest inventory at anyone else's plot! you're the only person with access to your inventory so if you came to my plot and clicked on a chest, it would show you, your inventory! but when you're cooking, the ingredients can either be in your chest or in your personal inventory, and either is fine for simpler cooking parties like celebration cakes

[lavish musk]

Can anyone help me make recipes for achievements? For example, master Palia chef: Luna new year, etc.

[hybrid violet]

sure! which ones are you missing?

[lavish musk]

I’m getting off now & going out of town in a couple hours, I’ll be back on Wed or Thurs if you’re still down to help!

[hybrid violet]

Sure just msg/tag me when you’re back

[mortal quartz]

I call this phenomenon: chests are portals to the Storage Dimension

[coral coyote]

Is there any reason to make jam and kimchi? (Of course kimchi has a cooking recipe but besides that and jam i dont think there is any real benefit)

[naive mesa]

jam sells VERY well and makes good gifts

[mortal quartz]

Processing improves the sell value of the crops, increasing your revenue vs selling raw crops. also in some cases the preserves are good worm food (for additional money/useful fertilizer)

imo there are better, less expensive gifts (unless it's a weekly want)

[coral coyote]

I see, i figured maybe sell value. Ah yes the fertilizer. Same goes for givng them sweetleaves. Though i am a horder and love cooking x.x maybe i should get rid of over 1k starred apples and few other stuff x.x

[mortal quartz]

Perhaps XD

Bet a bunch of cake parties would love to have you on fruit frosting

[coral coyote]

XD yeah im sure they do. I mean i have a lot of sweetleaves too x3 but yea i should join more parties T.T

I only work with starred crops anyways with no issue but i also do need to finish social and master social with someone.

[mortal quartz]

paging @proven silo :)

(she's abed rn and I'm about to be, but maybe we can get together later today or tomorrow)

[coral coyote]

Sure, ^^ yeah thats fine. I should get some rest too lol

[hasty wren]

is that rare? i got from fishing in my home plot

[tardy bobcat]

There's definitely value to at least starred apple jam. It's 144/jar and you can make that easy passive income. I rotate 9 apple trees out in between crop growing and have 6 preserve barrels, so I'm usually making an easy 30k every 30 hours on those preserve barrels. It's just good passive income!

[tardy bobcat]

Not rare per se, but a sought after recipe for sure! Congrats on getting it 🙂

[coral coyote]

😮 I'll have to do that. need more apple seeds lol

[teal oyster]

1/60 outside bubbles but still nice usefull recipe

[coral coyote]

i still cant believe sushi takes a dari clove x.x

[tardy bobcat]

I'm glad I collected dari a lot in the beginning as a new player before I really knew what to do with it, I also wish it was a lower price in the guild store. 12 coins for 1 dari is a bit much lol.

[coral coyote]

agreed x,x if it wasnt for that id make sushi but its just too expensive and scares to even be worth considering

besides the accomplishments of couse. I think you get a trophy for completing social and master social

[tardy bobcat]

I just finished those recently thanks to some Palia friends. The hardest one to get starred was Akwindu Chapaa omg

[coral coyote]

oh? o.o for me is the lucky fish thing. that one for some reason solo or not when i go to flip a specific thing it bugs out hard

[tardy bobcat]

Oh yeah, that one I barely managed to do solo. The first time I nearly failed it because I didn't add ingredients in time to start the flips.

[coral coyote]

oof. i had everything done right but with that bug i had i ended up burning the fish but i still got it starred on the first time, yesterday did the same thing with a friend and im like yea this is a bug at least for me x,x but got it starred so thats off my list.

[mortal quartz]

I'm just thankful that one isn't needed for any of the accomplishments! It's there just to be a challenge, I swear

[coral coyote]

Yeah, x.x if it wasnt for that weird bug with that one stove thing i wouldnt mind cooking it. Like each time i go to flip the thing spins and when i try to land it on the spot it doesnt work like th thing keeps reseting over and over like a bad glitch. I wonder if anyone has this issue

[versed gale]

I am looking for a document that someone made, with a table of fish values raw and when cooked into stew, sashimi, sushi (and maybe a couple more dishes, i'm not sure). I saw the one with the epic fish recently in this channel but if my memory serves, there is another one, either an excel sheet or other type of document with ALL of the fish on it. I wonder if anyone has seen it lately and could share it here? Thank you in advance!

[urban bridge]

There's this one, not sure if it's what you are looking for?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IF2Y7iKn14RlT57weZQr0yBvfwhUEhMELR_8dakdfNw/edit?pli=1&gid=816360775#gid=816360775

[marsh drum]

There isn't a bug as far as I know but flipping is one of the most common mini game to confuse people! Are you holding down and releasing when you're in the circle?

[versed gale]

No, it’s not, but thank you so much for your reply 🫶

[coral coyote]

Ik, thing is ive done the mini games on all other recipes and it feels right but for this one it keeps resetting where it doesnt land or fail. I do that but it tends to act oddly. Like i have to let go way earlier to even have a chance.

[marsh drum]

is there a way you could record a video of what you mean?

[coral coyote]

Possibly. Ill see if i can do that.

[versed gale]

Are you on switch? I used to have issues with that where it would spin really fast. So if I missed it would reset to another spot on the wheel. I think this is what you’re describing, but I’m not sure if you’re just missing it or if something is wrong.

[coral coyote]

No im on pc. Thing is it can happen even when i just started. But its like a rapid restart like it starts than after a second or two restarts again and again. Weird thing is its only on that one spot which has the icon of a bowl with green onions and i think spice.

[versed gale]

Oh I’m sorry then I don’t have any valuable advice for you. But if it’s like most things electronic, you could probably trick it into working. Like maybe change some of your cooking mini game settings and your camera sensitivity settings and see what changes. You may be able to knock it back into the correct place, so to speak.

[dry glacier]

Thats happened to me before

Although it happened on switch for me

I think it happens when you over hold the button.. because it works by releasing when at the right spot and starts when you press the button. However I held it the entire time and it began the infinite cycle

Is there a "best" food to eat?

[coral coyote]

I mean it sounds exactly that but anything else that has that mini game like fish or anything that isnt that recipe i dont get that o.o. im try again. Maybe im just doing something wrong.

[coral coyote]

For the most focus per food?

[dry glacier]

My focus is only at 900 or so. I need more points to increase my cap.

Lately I've been eating the muujin bread you bake in the oven but it has a bunch of smaller steps including the skillet where I got the infinite circle glitch

[teal oyster]

cake party cakes definitly most focus per effort and coin even thoguh u waste a bunch of it by eating more then the max bar XD cuz lower foods cost the same to overprep anyways and dont always fill ur bar

krissey there are a few foods that help fishing though so only eat those when fishing liek fishymanbrew0focus troutdiner sashimi fishstew sushi

[coral coyote]

Ah, yea most go with cake, the muujin also works, and the new fish recipe i struggle with has a lot of points even not starred.

I find it weird that the cap is 1k yet food we make exceed that

[teal oyster]

keep in mind im tlaking effort and resourece cost if ur not doing apples cuz i do sweetleaf of which i have way to much
ren pointed out a few times that other foods while giving less focus got way faster rounds and dont waste focus

[teal oyster]

ikr especially if it exceeds it at unstarred ...

[coral coyote]

Mhm

I feel anything thats over should be added to a seperate reserve bar and fill the focus once there is space. Like the last food you ate that exceeds 1k so that way the focus bar isnt semi useless if there was no limit.

[dry glacier]

I carry fisherman's brew on me for when fishing! It's a tea

Sweetloaf... from apples.. I should look into this

Maybe I should make an apple only farm or something

[coral coyote]

is a horder with over 1k starred apples T.T i gotta cook more lol. i wish i could give starred stuff.

[teal oyster]

save urself some storage jar some of em for salebin unels goldcap

[coral coyote]

im confused what do you mean? o.o

[teal oyster]

jar some apples to save storage space
and sell them
unles u have max gold

[coral coyote]

oh that, yea i should do that. whats the max in gold? I have about 500k

[teal oyster]

999999

[coral coyote]

damn cant get a mil D:

[teal oyster]

goldcap used to be 300000 so this is a massive improvement

[coral coyote]

yeah i heard it was lower. though i wonder why not 1 mil but 9 repeating

[teal oyster]

cuz number of characters in the gold pouch

[coral coyote]

ah

[marsh drum]

some popular ones are Steak Dinner, Stuffed Cabbage Rolls, Cream of Tomato Soup, Petit Fives, Rice Cake Soup, Rice cake Stir Fry, Chili Oil Dumplings, and Spicy Crab Fried Rice ! all of these have varying focus amounts depending on if you don't mind being a little below max focus as well as if you prefer cooking solo or joining parties! If you prefer cooking solo I recommend steak dinner

[tardy bobcat]

I like blueberry cakes for focus foods. 825 not starred and 1237 starred. My focus is at 1000 so I just eat one cake when my bar depletes or an 825 cake and a soup or something. I really like celebration cakes for focus foods since the starred version can be a one and done

[teal oyster]

finally a fellow cake eater

[proven silo]

I am absolutely more than happy to help you with the cooking achievements you can add me if you'd like, and we can coordinate!

[tardy bobcat]

My cooking plot is decorated with my cakes lol. I just like eating them and making them

[weary bronze]

https://paliaparty.app/l92qn9

hosting a quick cake party soon 🙂

[mortal quartz]

The best reason to cook anything, ngl

[weary bronze]

cake party starting in 10 min!

[stone coral]

Hello all! Only been playing the game for 2 months and I have questions about cooking parties. Particularly, I just need one dish: the Poke Bowl. Can I participate in the recipe if I don't know it myself? Who supplies the ingredients? I have everything but heat root currently.

[marsh drum]

to start, yes you can participate if you don't have the recipe! and how the supplies works is based on the steps! so whoever starts the recipe must have the starting ingredients, but anyone else participating only needs the ingredients for the step they're signed up for, if it requires one (this depends on the recipe ) so let's say you're in charge of chopping the garlic, you only need to have enough garlic for the number of rounds you're going to be doing, and every one else will take care of their own role!

also let's say youre just cooking with one other person, as long as you complete one step of the recipe, both people will recieve the end product :)

[stone coral]

ok that tracks, so I just need to find someone who knows the recipe then. By the time I realized I didn't know the recipe, I'd missed the market by 3.5 hours lol

[marsh drum]

i can actually help you cook it now if you'd like!

[stone coral]

omg yes please!

[marsh drum]

my ign is kiah sage!

[brazen epoch]

the hardest and most rewarding flow tree chop down XD even if i didn't get the loot

[jagged parcel]

anyone able to make me an apple pie ? 😄 its the last thing I need

[teal oyster]

request and ask in the chat of the server ur online in usually osmeone has it

[honest pike]

theres a cake party up right now that needs a few more people to fill if anyone is interested. in the parties tab of discord.

also, I dont think they can request it if theyve never had one before iirc. I think I have the recipe and if I do, I can help you in a bit 🙂 Ill make it and you just gotta interact with something and we will both get 3 pies out of it.

[foggy bough]

Do we ever get better looking appliances? The stove looks like it's about to break down

[marsh drum]

As of rn all the kitchen stations stay the same!

[foggy bough]

Somewhat disappointing, but I'm sure we'll get new skins one day

[coral coyote]

That would be amazing to see. Would be nice to have a theme and blend with the sets we have.

Btw i havent record the cooking with the fish. Havent cooked it yet but im do a test because i may know whats going on

[still monolith]

Anyone have any advice where i find to learn ''fish stew' ?
i need it for can give to Ashura ... npc ...
i own all recipes from Reth ...

[mortal quartz]

Fishing with regular worms, Bahari coast, any time, OUTSIDE of the nodes (bubbles) - just in open water. Low drop chance (~1 percent), plan on about 200 attempts

[still monolith]

Sushi and sashimi i figure out how.. but i am stuck , never get them at fishing ..i am a bit down

[mortal quartz]

You can also cook together with someone who has the recipe already

[still monolith]

ok i will try that , just pink worm, no hook ?

[mortal quartz]

Yes, pink worms

(idk if by "hook" you mean the buff item or fishing without bait)

[still monolith]

hm .. that a nice work around, i will ask my friends , i bring the fish 😛

[mortal quartz]

They will need the fish, lol, you bring garlic (or just stir)

[still monolith]

this hooks 😄

[mortal quartz]

you can use them if you really want to, but the recipe is just a bottle and reels in easily. The buffs do not affect drop rates for anything, only make it easier to reel in harder fish.

[still monolith]

same about brew ? dont affect the drop just help short time , if i understand right ..

i ask you know to be sure,
i keep blame me i use ''hooks and brew''
maybe reason i dont get sushi and sashimi ...

[mortal quartz]

No, none of the fishing buffs affect your fishing luck.The brew just makes the safe zone reticle - the ( ) - bigger so it's easier to keep up with the bobber when the fish fights

[mortal quartz]

they are all just very low drop chance, and you CANNOT get them if you are fishing for starred fish

[still monolith]

@mortal quartz thank you , i will keep in mind , help me a lot to clear my confusion how to gain them , this recipes from fishing

[sage cove]

I hope they are fixing it to where we can cook without freezing. My cinematic is off. So I'm running around with no focus because I can't cook without freezing and ingredients being wasted

[obtuse condor]

preserves are a good alternative if you can't cook (pickled potatoes or apple jam)

fwiw some people say some of these things can help with cooking issues:

• move cooking stations further apart and/or wait several seconds between each step
• if getting stuck at stations while cooking, try holding a tool

[teal oyster]

Interacting with any does that?
U could start recipes and let others finish em xd

[mortal quartz]

That has got to be frustrating... if you don't mind my asking, what have you tried when you freeze?

[sage cove]

The unstuck button. When i use it it throws me to the entrance and still.cant move when it does that

[mortal quartz]

what happens if you open the H menu / click left stick?

That was a previous workaround for this bug

(I am guessing you've already sent in a ticket to report the bug)

[sage cove]

I'm in switch

[mortal quartz]

Right, so for you it would be to click the left stick

to open the overhead view of the housing plot

If you'd like to test it, I'd be happy to cook with you and complete the recipe if you get stuck so you won't have to keep wasting ingredients

[sage cove]

Ty

[indigo stone]

hey what's the best focus food?

[teal oyster]

For me its cake

[urban bridge]

Really depends on several things, how new you are and where your focus bar is at, if u prefer to cook alone or with others, if u enjoy cooking etc..
My go to focus food is still Starred Chili Oil Dumplings (525 focus) even though my bar has been maxed out for quite some time now simply because it's quick and easy to make and costs me nothing but oil and cooking is one of my least favorite skills

[tardy bobcat]

Cake for me as well. 1,237 starred and 825 unstarred. With a focus bar of 1,000 -- 1 starred cake is all I need to max out again. It does take a lot of shop ingredients though.

[teal oyster]

i get those with partys while a round of cake is slow overprepping sewetleaf is cheap and only one action anyways and with party everything is one action at minimum anyways so for me cake is the most efficient but ren told me cake is slow ot make in gorup cuz osme things take 30 seconds and cake takes like 1min

[indigo stone]

I do have every recipe possible unlocked just as things used for cooking. I was just wondering if it's still cake or smth else because i wasn't playing for a few months

[urban bridge]

Yeah just depends on if you enjoy cake parties or not, cuz cooking those alone cost right much in the long run and takes a bit of time to make compared to other dishes, that's all

[indigo stone]

Are also cakes the best for making money?

[urban bridge]

For food sales? Yeah those are still the best for that.

[tardy bobcat]

Or you're weird like me and love cakes so much you just make them alone constantly lmao

[urban bridge]

But I prefer hunting anyday

[teal oyster]

Nope theres something dramatically much better xd

[indigo stone]

what?

[teal oyster]

Epic fish dish partys overprepping 360.000 coins per hour is possible with that

[native panther]

TYSM!

[mortal quartz]

With caveat that those kinds of numbers are dependent on a community's ability to generate dari cloves (2 per round; only spawns once every half-hour per server) and starred tier 1 epic fish (~1% drop rate)

So you can really only host so many of them in a given week

Meanwhile, the rate-limiting factors on cakes are sweet leaf (infinite spawn) and apples (up to 24 apples per tree per person every ~12 hours of gameplay)

[teal oyster]

Winning strat being a leech xd but i did those twice and had enuff coins for super long but if u attend be nice and share some dariclove or one epic fish

[gray owl]

Random quick fifty round focus food pop up party starts asap 😁 https://paliaparty.app/tb4mra

[delicate elm]

Nice, I'm in!

[jade forum]

Logging in now to see what I have

[delicate elm]

Did you already start? If not maybe change the start time to half hour from now so it shows in the "upcoming" instead of "ongoing", I know for me personally if it's in the ongoing list I scroll past and assume it's already full and started and not worth looking at

Trying to get hubby to jump in on rice, he's on switch so that's easiest on switch versus the veggies which bounce around on the list for him

Also I have pretty much all the veggies so if anyone else wants to switch I'm fine chopping whatever:)

[jade forum]

Signed up for garlic! And added you

[gray owl]

Thanks 😺 there's a town called Fernie in the Rockies in Canada and I absolutely love skiing there so your name brings up some great memories

[delicate elm]

Hubby is napping but I've got whatever we need besides the first two things (the egg one and crab obvs)

[gray owl]

Sorry for any confusion I just made this out of the blue

[delicate elm]

No worries we can totally make it work regardless 🙂

I like random happenstances

[gray owl]

I can start the recipe so the store bought stuff and I have crabs for days

[jade forum]

I can do starter & onions as well!

[delicate elm]

Noice I can do whatever else you need me to do

[jade forum]

Green onions I mean

[gray owl]

That's perfect then I'm just going to grab a water and I'll see you guys in game chat well start in five cool?

You two are so wonderful btw

[jade forum]

Sounds good

[delicate elm]

Sounds good! 💜

[mental pond]

I am also stuck on this one and have been fishing in the bubbles 🫠🤦🏼‍♀️ when fishing in the open water for fish stew recipe, is it best to stay in one spot or move up and down Bahari coast? Or does it not really matter?

[mortal quartz]

Does not matter at all; all of the open water along the coast is the same. If you're getting mostly bluefin tuna and Bahari bream, unstarred, you're in the right water.

[mental pond]

Okay amazing, thank you!!

[sinful sable]

do people group cook in here? if so how can i be apart of that and also contributing? im pretty new to Palia, cooking is level 5ish i only have a few recipes

[teal oyster]

they do here but cooking partys are mainly organised wiht a specific website

[sinful sable]

heard, thank you for a quick answer

[teal oyster]

you welcome

[jade forum]

Try taking a peek in #1143270926394335282 a bunch of the active threads are almost always cooking parties. You can also check out paliaparty's website itself which is that website aforementioned!

[teal oyster]

the foreshadowed website XD

[tulip sparrow]

Would anyone be interested in a lucky braised fish party? I still would need to gather resources for it but just curious

[jade forum]

Depending on the time (I'm in EST) I definitely would be. I almost always have stacks of sea bass to use from fishing in bahari, and usually have the stuff to cover any other steps too.

[tulip sparrow]

I'm Aest but I should probly be studying for my upcoming math exam instead maybe next week?

Also what time do you usually play.

[tulip sparrow]

https://paliaparty.app/a6agus
I have uploaded the party on Palia Party App if you are still interested!

[jade forum]

Awesome! I'd love to be there if the time lines up- sorry I must have totally missed your last reply asking when I play usually, which varies! I usually am on throughout the day EST and can be on as late as 11p or so my time for a party

[tulip sparrow]

Would 11 am AEST work with you? That is 8pm for you in EST!

[jade forum]

Absolutely!

[tulip sparrow]

Sorry we dont have enough people for the party maybe next time :)

[jade forum]

No worries, thanks for letting me know- is it cool if I add you here?? Would love to be on the short list

[tulip sparrow]

sure! (when you mean add me do you mean in discord? i can add a thread to the parties if you want!)

[jade forum]

A thread would probably be perfect, that way we can all meet there like a mini paliaparty page. I'll also add you in game whenever we end up having that party!

[tulip sparrow]

https://discord.com/channels/809856101326913567/1348093842766696468

[molten lodge]

Are people still interested in cake parties? I'd be happy to set one up for the near future

[jade forum]

Absolutely, they're always being posted in #1143270926394335282 and the majority are coordinated through the paliaparty website!

[molten lodge]

Nice!

[weary bronze]

https://paliaparty.app/nhgchl

70xstarred apple cakes ❤️

pls come and enjoy

[foggy bough]

Why make sushi with epic fish instead or regular fish?

[teal oyster]

Profit if u do it in party

[foggy bough]

Not for eating then

[teal oyster]

Yes for selling

[scenic python]

Hi everybody. Just curious, what do you think is the most difficult Palian recipe to cook on your own ?

[tardy bobcat]

Lucky Fish for sure lol

[mortal quartz]

LBF is definitely a challenge just to be a challenge

There is basically no reason to cook it, lol

other than for display/as a trophy

[teal oyster]

but then why do lucky braised fish partys exist ?_?

[brittle iris]

where can i find a cake party happening now?

[teal oyster]

https://paliaparty.app/

[brittle iris]

thank you

[hybrid merlin]

what yields the best for xp? like.. multi harvest crops like tomatoes? i dont mean like the crops yield different xp amounts

[teal oyster]

but this is cooking channel

[hybrid merlin]

oops i thought i click farming

[teal oyster]

ask in gardening and il answer

[mortal quartz]

Why do mythic raids exist? XD Though it is much easier with a full group. (For fun, and because it gives okay XP for a pretty relaxed pace as long as you aren't triple roling or something)

and for variety

[gritty temple]

Anyone have any cooking parties going on rn? 🙂

[rain pine]

Is there a way to suggest to the admins to make cooking easier? I don't mind having to combine 15-20 ingredients, it's the fact that every time i try to make certain dishes I have to flip the pan 30 times and it still doesn't register as having flipped. or every single item has a different chopping cadence. Or that you mess up ONE thing and waste everything you prepared already instead of saving it for a future attempt. Or that the hardest dishes are so hard they're not even worth making. My character is on a pickled food diet and nothing else. All my other skills are level 20-35, but cooking is only an 8 because of how much I hate doing it. Am I the only one??

[marsh drum]

!feedback to start you can send in feedback here

[covert pivot]

Feedback & Suggestions

Looking for where to share your game feedback & suggestions for Palia?

• To share feedback directly with the team: https://palia.info/feedback
• To discuss issues with other players: #🦋│issues-discussions
• To read the latest Dev Updates: https://palia.com/news
• For bug reports, contact: https://support.palia.com

[marsh drum]

and as for the other issues you're having, are you holding down and then releasing the button to flip when it is in the circle? i know that's one of the most common confusions people have! as for the other aspects, some recipes are just meant to be challenges for those who want it such as the Lucky Braised Fish, but that recipe isn''t required for anything? i also recommend checking the wiki for the various dishes you want to make whether it be for starred dishes, or focus food, as each dish has a recommended order of steps and tips that can help a lot! https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Dishes

but i personally really love the cooking mini games and challenges and am excited for when they add more :) if you're over 500 focus and want a simple and low ingredient dish with minimal steps i do recommend trying out steak dinner, since preserves are more profitable

[rain pine]

I completed 30+ 'successful' flips on that stupid Chapaa Masala dish and the computer didn't register a single one. That recipe is so costly to make and I only want it for the relic wall anyway.

[marsh drum]

hm i havent heard of that issue so im unsure of why it's not working?

how recently was it? im curious if its just a bug youre facing and you may just need to submit a report?

[rain pine]

I even tried logging completely out, waiting a full in real life day, logging back in and tried it again. NOPE! Such a waste.

It was before the newest patch.

[mortal quartz]

This won't help the issues you're having necessarily, but some smaller workarounds include cooking with other people (makes the harder dishes much, MUCH easier), which may also let you complete dishes if you are having difficulty with one minigame type (chopping, flipping).

I struggled HARD with chopping and flipping when I started the game - like I repeatedly failed to chop garlic or mushrooms for the super basic soups, and I found it incredibly stressful. I ended up teaming up with a friend who was good at/enjoyed rhythm games, and we would cook steak dinner together. He'd handle the pan and chopping spice sprouts, and I'd roll the wheat and mix the butter/bake the bread. It took a looooot of time and practice for me to ease myself into being able to chop and flip without my heart rate going way up, lol.

For chapaa masala specifically, one can be purchased using cooking guild medals to complete the bundle. (Dari cloves are way too precious for me to be willing to spend them on bundles unless specifically called for, lol)

[mighty topaz]

Is there any easy focus food that dont need cooking beside buying reth bouillabaise?

[teal oyster]

Jarred apples and other jarred
Candy eggs

[mortal quartz]

Yeah, if you would rather not cook, preserves are the way to go. Apple jam is the best in terms of focus per gold eaten (though they are mostly all about the same, ~2 focus per gold - double buying food for money), but production speed may be a problem if you do a lot of hunting or anything.

There is also always the option to just not eat. You will miss out on your focus bonus, so you will level more slowly, but you don't stop gaining XP entirely.

[merry knoll]

50 Cake Cooking party getting ready to happen, IGN Flower Lacy

many roles avail

[uneven jungle]

Can anyone help me out with Star Quality Trout Dinner?

[hybrid violet]

still need help?

[uneven jungle]

Yes please but I’m all out of trout now

[hybrid violet]

i have one. add me and come over to my plot

[opal comet]

Is anyone else having issues when flipping while cooking?

No matter how many times I press on the dot it won’t register. Was working okay two days ago but weird yesterday and today

[uneven jungle]

Sorry Roy, I had to quickly go! I’m back now, are you still available?

[tardy bobcat]

and as for the other issues you're having, are you holding down and then releasing the button to flip when it is in the circle? i know that's one of the most common confusions people have! as for the other aspects, some recipes are just meant to be challenges for those who want it such as the Lucky Braised Fish, but that recipe isn''t required for anything? i also recommend checking the wiki for the various dishes you want to make whether it be for starred dishes, or focus food, as each dish has a recommended order of steps and tips that can help a lot! https://palia.wiki.gg/wiki/Dishes

but i personally really love the cooking mini games and challenges and am excited for when they add more 🙂 if you're over 500 focus and want a simple and low ingredient dish with minimal steps i do recommend trying out steak dinner, since preserves are more profitable :yesyes:

I copied this message from a reply above!

[hybrid violet]

i had to step away for a bit but can log in now if you're available

[uneven jungle]

It’s Rosmi1297 in game, I have 4 trout now! Shall I come to your plot?

[hybrid violet]

yes

[teal oyster]

why did palia devs sent me oack amber ?_?

[somber jackal]

I want different dishes to make, is leveling up and buying from the shop the only way to unlock more? I know the underground has some recipes as well.

[hot gust]

fishing has a few recipes, also a lot of the villagers have a recipe in their rooms

so have to get them to lvl 3 friendship and get their key and snoop around

[tardy bobcat]

And special events have dishes as well, like Maji markets.

[somber jackal]

Ooh okay ty! I’m still only level 4 cooking so I’m still kind of limited, and spam cooking the same recipe is pretty boring.

[tardy bobcat]

Yeah long way to go still 🙂

[hot gust]

theres also a recipe in the library if you havent gotten that one yet walk around and read the books laying around

[somber jackal]

Thank you! I’ll read up at the library to make sure I got it.

Thanks for the help! I want to be a chef in the game because I’m big on gardening and grow a lot of crops and that’s a big source of the income I make daily, but can’t really use any ingredients I have so it’s discouraging

[tardy bobcat]

Master level cooking is Level 50, so you have plenty of ways to expert that skill. You're just getting started and it goes a little slow in the beginning but take your time and enjoy it. You will level up everything before you know it.

[somber jackal]

Is there specific dishes that you can make that will level you up faster or no matter the dish you will level up at the same pace?

[tardy bobcat]

The dishes that are rare and epic provide you more XP than dishes that are common, etc.

And, cooking in parties helps people level up that skill a bit faster too.

[somber jackal]

Ooh okay good to know 🙌🏻

A little off topic but What’s your kitchen set up look like btw? I just recently built a bigger two story home and I’m still trying to figure out the layout of how I want things.

[tardy bobcat]

My home plot kitchen is in a large room, I have two of every station in there set up against the walls, and then I added a hallway section onto it for a little pantry for decorative purposes. My cooking plot has six to nine of most stations for when big groups come together, and I did that outside (not inside of a house or anything).

If you want some kitchen inspo, you could check out the decor channel, or the home tour channels. Or just check out some houses on home tours lol! There's a ton of creative people out there who have super fancy set ups. Mine is more practical with a bit of decoration personally.

[somber jackal]

Ooh that’s smart to have an outside area too! I like that idea

[somber jackal]

Thank you! I haven’t done any tours yet or nothing like that lol I’m still trying to make mine look nice before I take the dive into what other’s looks like.

But I do want a nameplate so I’m sure eventually it will consume me 😂😂

[mortal quartz]

Recipe XP is based on the number of minigame steps it has, so more complex recipes give more XP per dish. However, they also take longer to cook, especially solo, so may not be "faster" per se, and will often be more expensive. Check the Experience page on the wiki for a list.

Cooking in groups makes complex recipes both faster AND cheaper, since you split the work and the ingredients with other players.

Cake parties are one of the fastest ones ways to level cooking: 340 base XP per round of cake, and at a well-run party, each round is about a minute. Other recipes give more XP per round, but are slower.

Don't underestimate campfire cooking for XP, either! With a circle of 4-5 campfires, you can rotate around inside the ring and generate XP pretty quickly. (It's also a good way to squeeze a little more gold out of unstarred fish you were going to sell anyway.)

Aaaand as always: upgrade your focus bonus at the Phoenix Shrine ASAP

caps out at 100 percent, and double XP on everything is no joke

[somber jackal]

Omgsh thank you for the tips! I just visited the shrine hopefully that’ll help me get the boost I need ^~^

[mortal quartz]

Keep in mind there are two shrines in Kilima: Phoenix (where you spawned in) and Dragon

You can commune at each of them repeatedly, but they give different effects. Phoenix ups your focus bonus %, and Dragon raises your max focus bar capacity

So that is where I recommend new players spend their renown. Writs can wait.

[somber jackal]

Ty! I probably could have saved a few hundred renown 😂 I farmed the writs lol

[cold ermine]

Can you use both shrines? (Not a new player, but only learning now about the Phoenix shrine now)

[jade forum]

Yes and you absolutely should! Focus bonus, when fully upgraded, gives you a double xp bonus when there's anything in your focus bar!!!!

[cold ermine]

Im definitely gonna do this! Thank you

[mortal quartz]

Not quite "anything" - if you don't have enough focus to cover the full amount, it will give you only a partial bonus

If an action runs you fully out of focus, chances are you missed out on some of it

[mortal quartz]

I generally recommend that new players put all their renown into the Phoenix shrine first until they reach ~50-60% focus bonus, by which point you'll start needing/having access to bigger focus foods. This is also the breakpoint where you start seeing diminishing returns for your renown.

At that point, you can upgrade your max focus until it hits 500 or so. Then alternate between the two shrines until they're both maxed out.

[somber jackal]

Update: The multiple campfires came in clutch 🤗

[small beacon]

Hi guys, new to this channel. I was wondering do I have to use general (non-star quality) ingredients for general cooking and cannot use star quality ingredients for the cooking? Always have tons of star-quality vegetables but few star-quality spices 😦

[mortal quartz]

The "Use starred ingredients" is more accurately "permit using starred ingredients"

It will prefer using starred ingredients - if you have them available to use, it will use them - but if you have no starred version of an ingredient (or have it locked in safe storage), then it will let you use your unstarred items.

[reef topaz]

Hello! A friend of mine is having an issue where he can't cook on any of his plots. Like the cooking menues are grey so he can't type F in front of them. He previously used his plots and never had a problem, it's just happening from nowhere, do you know anything about that? (and no one can use his plot to cook BUT he can cook on others plots)

[obtuse condor]

every other time i've heard of this issue, it's because there's a forgotten finished dish or ruined food on one of the cooking stations. this will block cooking on any other station until the food is removed. advise him to check all the cooking stations on all his plots 🙂

[reef topaz]

Thanks !!

[snow hatch]

Anybody wanna make some cakes with me? Lol

[somber jackal]

I will be home in an hour if this offer still stands I will happily join! ^~^

[snow hatch]

Are you still wanting to bake some cakes? I just now saw this.

[somber jackal]

Sorry I was doing some decorating lol I’m still on if you want to?

[somber jackal]

Ty for the cakes 🤗

[snow hatch]

Np, thank you for helping me. Making cakes alone is the absolute worst.

[long cypress]

Anyone available to cook one thing with me so I can finish the weekly? 😄

I'll trade something valuable if I have it!

[teal oyster]

time to open 103 oysters
and c what i get

and done i got 90 oyster meat
13 star oyster meat
15 pearls
2green pearls
0sticker packs 😦

[snow hatch]

Anybody in the mood to help a Ginger out with finishing her Social Chef achievement? Eh, eh? 😅

[tardy bobcat]

If you still need help this weekend I can help you do this! I usually play Fri-Sun mostly 😄

[snow hatch]

Alright, sweet. That gives me time to double check my inventory and make sure I have all of the ingredients for everything.

[tawny heart]

I was under the impression that the chances to get a pack is when a skill levels up, no? I know the 2 times I got some was when a skill leveled up. Do correct me if I'm wrong. Just opening oysters doesn't give xp, it's picking them up that does so it's not surprising you didn't get stickers from that

[teal oyster]

Ren — Today at 01:04
Forwarded
Belatedly: from gardening, stickerpacks are only from tilling and not from harvesting, right?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but so far the full list seems to be...
catching fish, mining loot, bug catching loot, hunting loot, tree chopping loot, picking forageables, opening oysters, and tilling garden soil

Did I miss anything?
Forwarded
should only be tilling yeah unless I missed something :DuckHUH:

list seems to be correct :muujinnodders:

[jade forum]

It's during nearly any activity and I have gotten stickers from things that don't give xp like tilling soil and opening oysters, and notably not just when leveling up

[teal oyster]

i got it once from mining and mostly from tilling soil

[tawny heart]

Oh, good to know. I guess it's just an insane coincidence that the 2 times I got a pack was when one skill leveled up

[teal oyster]

oyster see it more as an extra chance when picking em up
and free odds when opening ur stock of it since hty are pretty useless XD
but not so good on stickers that i would hunt em for it
maybe i can request unoppened ones nonstop for extra chances and wormfood

[mortal quartz]

I feel like there are so many better uses for requests, lol - isn't it 1 oyster per?

[teal oyster]

idk i dont use my requests that much what other stuff is better thats not begging for hard to get items that are scarce for all?

[mortal quartz]

Plenty of items AREN'T scarce for all, is the thing - I end up with mass excess of so many resources. Fishing buff hooks, actual fish, silk, flow planks, palium bars... I mean, I'm not filling requests for rubies left and right, because those don't have a use, but you'd be surprised what people are very happy to give away. Storage space is limited!

[teal oyster]

when i do request things its usually annoying to get foragable that i use in furniture making though but yeay dont need those that often

[tardy bobcat]

I practically beg to give away my flow planks in chat, I just end up selling them

[teal oyster]

but i got 0 use for em XD
flowwood is th e easiest to get foragable in my opinion outside of what zeki sells

mh maybe i should request em anyways to sale bin free money and others are happy their storage becomes less full and they can help someone

[worthy depot]

Could I possibly come to anyone’s house to help cook any of these food items? I need them for my shrine! Tysm in advance ❤️ (palia username is Leslore)

[marsh drum]

You can come over to my plot! Im adding you now my ign is kiah sage :D

[worthy depot]

I searched and added you!

[marsh drum]

feel free to visit when youre ready!

[teal oyster]

post picture of ur shrine when ur done

[worthy depot]

Of all 4 sections?

[tardy bobcat]

The campfires cost a crafting license, correct? I haven't built one in so long I can't recall.

[mortal quartz]

They do not! Only items that do work to process multiple items while you are offline/idle count against the crafter limit.

[tardy bobcat]

This is excellent news. My crafty plan just became a real idea lol.

[mortal quartz]

I think they ARE global items like trees and chests and many other things, though (count against the item limit on all plots at once)

[teal oyster]

u cna only run 5 firep[laces at once though but u miught want more if u wanna make a specific amount of grilled sstuff or use em as storage

[tardy bobcat]

Got your friend request! I'll be online a lil bit before I have lunch if you wanna cook!

Or any time after really. I'll probably be playing all day 😁

[languid wedge]

Hi foragers
I made some art of the plants in palia
What do you think? What should I do next 😅

[tardy bobcat]

Trees 🎄🌳

[weary bronze]

https://paliaparty.app/uxyzh0

[dark crater]

for cooking parties...do u have to bring ur own ingredients? (ive never done one so im curious)

thank u!

[unkempt ore]

Finally got the Last pebble from the oysters. 🔥🤯🥳

[teal oyster]

CONGRATZZZ

do you need tips on what to do witht he large amount of oyster meat filling ur storage?

[unkempt ore]

Thank you. 💕 And I don't have that much oyster meat, since I eat them right after opening them. 😁

[teal oyster]

😮 ic

[delicate elm]

Jeallloouuusss...and also congrats!

[unkempt ore]

Thank you! 💕 And good luck! 🤞🙏

[versed vessel]

Hi im having an issue when trying to make petit fives - when cooking the fruit paste every time i get it in the circle it keeps restarting the circle on the stove and keeps restarting? Just ending up with constant ruined recipes, unsure if anyone else has encountered this orrr if its just a me problem hahaa 😅

[lofty estuary]

Are you on switch or PC?

[versed vessel]

PC

like im starting it ill get it on the dot but constantly restarts or jumps further than the dot

[lofty estuary]

When cooking you're supposed to have the circle go all the way around before stopping on the large circle-
It's possible you're experiencing some lag on your end (it happens to me)
If anything you could try to file a ticket with support

[versed vessel]

so it has to pass the dot once fully? i didnt have to do that on previous recipes, its the only recipe where i use the stove and it won't work 🥲

hopefully just lag, ill try again later, thank you 🙂

[lofty estuary]

Ofc
If anything I have a ton I can gift you when I log on

[versed vessel]

ahhh tyvm!

[obtuse condor]

just to check, how are you clicking? the correct way to play this minigame is to hold the mouse button down and release it when it reaches the circle. if you click once to start the minigame then click again on the circle, it'll won't work. people have this issue all the time so i assume it's not explained well (if at all)

[versed vessel]

omg really, no i didnt hold it, because it says to press to start then press when it gets into the dot, okay i will try that then also, thank you!

[marsh drum]

just so you know it does not have to go all the way around before releasing the button! you just have to hold down and then release once it's in the circle

[lofty estuary]

i did not know that 😭

[marsh drum]

i totally see how it looks like that but not necessary

[somber jackal]

What’s the best spot to farm silk thread? I need to make silk but I don’t know where I can get a lot of it on a daily. I tried FF last night and only found 1 vampire crab .. 😭

[tardy bobcat]

Hit every rare bug you see: azure stone hoppers are a great source for this bc they're pretty abundant. Hairy millipedes as well. Very abundant. Every rare and epic bug drops silk.

I usually walk away with about 50 to 70 silk a day from absent minded bug catching, and especially if you do lures where azures and milipedes pops up a lot, you can walk away from a lure with a lot of silk too.

In Bahari: rainbow butterfly, jewelwing, amber beetle, fairy mantis for epics that drop. Leafstalker, blue glowbug, hairy millipedes, bright eyes butterfly, pink centipede, azure stonehopper spitfire cicada, purple snail, vampire crab will all drop.

You can do lures for easily for purple snails post 6pm and azures and milipedes any time of day. Leafstalkers from sweet leaf. Pink centipede from iron. These are usually the easier bugs to farm silk from.

[marsh drum]

you're gonna want to use honey lures to just catch a lot of bugs and buzzy jars to track the rare bugs that drop silks if youre running around

[weary bronze]

best way to lvl foraging?

[somber jackal]

Ooh ty! I forgot about the buzzy jars I’ll try to use those to help me.

[somber jackal]

Ty for the info I appreciate it!

[jade forum]

It's boring, but just go around collecting everything you see in bahari and meanwhile cut and harvest large trees. It's best done in a small party of 2 or 3 when possible because chopping lots of trees = flow trees will spawn > good opportunity for extra xp, flow wood, and possibly muujin/bluujin hunting at the same time if you're feeling adventurous.

And always go after dari calls, and keep your eyes peeled for heatroot- also great xp for one time collections

[teal oyster]

i thought occasional rarer foragables and flowtreepartys are the only way for training foraging

[somber jackal]

Update: the buzzy jars are everything and more! Never catching bugs without it lol

[foggy bough]

Can you buy ingredients in bulk at Zeki's or do you have to click for each one?

[mortal quartz]

If just starting out: pick everything, chop trees.

If you are farther along in the game: Flow trees give variable amounts of XP: if you damage them faster than they regenerate, then let them heal, they give more XP than if you straight chop them. They can build up to quite high numbers with some patience, and everyone who participates in the final chop gets the full XP amount.

(I like being the "flow tree fairy" and charging up wild small and medium flow trees I find in out-of-the-way places, then calling the server over to chop :) )

[mortal quartz]

There is no way to specify how many to buy at once, but you can spam-click pretty fast? :( And actually once you buy the first one with a click, you can just press the spacebar for further purchases

[mortal quartz]

I would also add brightshrooms and dragons beard peat (also rare forageables but not too hard to find) and heart drop lilies

[hybrid merlin]

can you make butter or only buy it?

[delicate elm]

Only buy it from zeki's shop

Sometimes you'll get it in lucky balls. But unfortunately you can't make it.

[austere gazelle]

Not sure if I should cross post this to the fishing thread, but any tips for getting those dang Sashimi or Fish Stew recipes?? Been grinding for days and nada

[marsh drum]

just keep fishing and be sure you're fishing outside the bubbles! its complete rng

[austere gazelle]

Good to know to avoid the hot spots, ty!

[unreal trail]

does anyone know where to sign up for cake parties?(is there anything like that

[teal oyster]

https://paliaparty.app/?ref=paliatracker.com

[marsh drum]

along with the site, you can also find parties in #1143270926394335282 :)