#🤝│game-help
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You can get different results with higher valued grilled fish, as well.
you can enter ALL of them!
you can get your own harem going sofis
without losing any of them??
well we would get milk an eggs, but would need another crafter to turn milk into butter
You'll get there. It doesn't take long.
yup!
omg this made my day
Can we get a list somewhere to get a stat for which type of food how many worms & fertilizer can be produced ..
I would love ormuuss!!
date all the purple thirst traps (and silly robot buddy)
hahaha i will! thak ya
Einar ❤️
if i have a gardening layout and they grow fully and ready for harvest and i only harvest that crops that i wanted would i still get the buffs from the side crops that are fully grown ? or do i need to harvest them and plant them again to get the buffs
Omg, if I make my house have a room all for each of the romancables, could I profit off them through rent?~
dayum xD
1k every day please SiRe~
check wiki!
they will retain the companion effect if they are left fully grown and not harvested, yes!
Yes actually I'm almost done with it, may be later today or tomorrow I'll unlock glow, as this is very important for fishing ..
You can check the pinned messages in this channel, but the fertilizer guide (possibly out of date now) is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cDsOxSJSkODSEimSEZmmos2_5hOGJ1Typ4tXutjBI9I/
Actually looks like Aven is working on it right now.
Is it common at lower levels to lose a fish off the hook?
ouuu tysm !
Casually stealing for later
be back shortly....need some ice for up coming Hurricane hehe.....
it can be common at any level, especially if you have a hard time with an epic fish. if you mean during the minigame to reel it in. if you mean after it bites it runs away, it will return you just need to make sure you click to hook it when it returns.
I need a good way to get the most glow worms possible
Okay, thanks
I was wondering what can we do with the empty tresor chest you get while fishing on in other chest that you can find?
nah its user skill issue as if you dont start reeling in soon enough the fish leave.
or if the rod health hits 0 you lose the fish.
getting better fishing rods give you better reeling in, more rod health
Decoration
the most efficient way i found for me, is being an apple jammer for a community member's cake parties, hoarding them in my storage, and then feeding 5 glow worm farms endless sugary treats for 13 each cycle
Get lots of glow worm farms
Also, the math behind glow worms and fish, if you're interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kOTkepDj689sUPRJa2WFFcKowU55m_mvQwZmg9lB6Ko/
Is the Fisherman's Brew good to have, or it's not so important ?
Fish stew is better. I don't think brew is that great
waterlog chests have makeshift funiture.
while the treasure chests you find around can be given to tish
I have no idea how to even do a cake party, it doesn't appeal to me 🤣🤣
Carry it with me anytime I fish. Easy to make, stacks to 30. Lasts 8 minutes.
Maybe I am too slow or too fast hooking them. I just learned that if you are fishing for specific fish you can just not hook it and wait for another fish so you don't lose your bait
that's so fair, i am so done with them for the time being hahaha
Not long made my 2nd lmao
Oh really nothing else? Sometimes i get some and they are already empty, i find them pretty useless....
You can stack the buffs, and the brew doesn't count as "Eating" (if you have that turned on).
You auto loot the ones found out in the wilds. The ones you fish up have to be manually looted
you can, but it's a bit more clunky. if you leave the bobber in, the same fish will keep returning, but if you wait for it to leave, then re-cast, you will keep the bait at the cost of no exp and extra durability spent to roll for a new fish!
aaaaaaaaa ok ! Thank you very much. hehe
Explain the leave part
I tried today, kept the worm, but lost the durability
I will have to test. Someone said that you just left the bobber in the water and a new fish could come. You may be right because the thought is that the fish is determined at the cast.
I waited for it to Bob again then pulled
Another Sashimi-related thing (this applies to grilled fish and Sushi, too btw) is that: the more expensive your used fish is, the more worms you get from farm
so you spend durability casting, and then the fish will bite, then swim back down into the depths. once it does, you can click and then wont hook it but keep the bait
REALLY?!
And keep durability once its gone?
i wish i could just leave it for a fish i want, haha but yeah, it DID help me once when i wasnt paying attention and got an epic, it let me wait for it to resurface and have another chance to hook it.
if you re-cast, it will spend more durability without the reward of fish/exp but the benefit of keeping a glow worm, if you are hunting a specific fish
Durability will always go down, whether or not you hook the fish.
Ight, I think I understand lmao
Hey is anyone else’s waypoint marker not working properly?
That sucks
yeah, mine was being non functional too on the map screen, only in the overworld could i place them.
I keep a stash of repair kits and use my home anvil. Others prefer to use gold to repair their gear. It's a thing you learn to deal with.
I wasn't paying attention the other day while I was clearcutting and broke my first exquisite tool ever.
I just use gold bc of the materials you need to make the stuff 🤣
i did that re-casting with my fishing rod once when i was really in the zone trying for unicorn fish hahaha, last time i did that... at least so far
you can use any anvil with your repair tools in storage to repair
I've got copper and iron for days. I always make sure to grab a node or two while I'm out.
a shame you can't use gold to repair at the bahari anvil..
I got over 100 now. But I'm safekeeping them for a while
Not the one in Bahari. I have to have the kits on me.
Quick silly question---can you cook at someone else's house even if you haven't started cooking...?
Guys, what does buying a plot for 50k gold do?
yes
Hence why whenever I'm doing my npc talking rounds, I always repair at shifuus
you can yes! friends that just started i cooked some higher level stuff with so that they could get some cooking levels and starting money
literally just gives you another plot, so you could build another house (if you buy another harvest house). also allows you to have one public, one private etc
ok thank you!!!
Also makes a good junkyard for all the random furniture you end up with. Helps sorting through the good stuff in your storage.
can help cook long as you have the materials or you help with stiring, baking in the oven or flipping.
or long as you have materials to help with the cooking
in addition to what Rob said, you need to buy 3 additional plots, (for 225k total) to unlock the Gazebo as well
Ok thank you!!
if the recipe has steps that combines or cooks other step ingredients, you can even get rewards for not contributing materials 🙂
great for new players
The coveted Cake Party Stove position 
Gazebo? What does that do or what is it for?
Also, can you have gardening on both and double your gains?
Over 150 worms and no fish stew recipe 😦
i did a mini cake party with 5 people (instead of 15 lol) and they were watering the prep tables in between baking. already a master at the game. 
I read ingame somebody had gone through 400 for sashimi so...
Hahaha people using their hoe to "sweep up" the kitchen after.
can anyone give more info on this? you can give the empty treasure chests to Tish?
I have spent over 250 before i got mine.
My total glowworm counter has passed the 1k worms in order to get unicorn, ray and goldfish some time ago (only got the ray so far) 🥲
i wish, you can have soil on both, but youd need to split your 9 total soil spaces. as for the gazebo, it's a separate outdoor 'room' space! here's for instance a gazebo viaki uses for cake parties that i love.
I got my sashimi before I even knew you could fish for recipes. I've been playing since alpha and still haven't even seen a void ray in-game.
RNG baby.
yes! it's a non-weekly loved gift for tish
oh wow!!! I have so many empty chests... very good to know
Do we know anything to do with switch? I can't wait to be able to play palia in bed 😭
idk if anyone has asked yet but is anyone elses palia say its down for maintenance
Rng?
this is gonna be so dangerous hahahaha
Everyone's 🤣
Is there the possibility to display the map in small while playing?
^ i wish, minimap would be great
Already have sleep gone 🤣
no minimap option currently, may potentially be added in the future but not currently an option
I mean the message says down for maintenance.....
when is the update going to be done
An easy thing to remember is that most npcs will happily take items relating to their personal interests almost anytime (provided it's not on their weekly wants list). For instance, Ainu loves bugs, Hassian likes hunting things, and Badruu digs poop.
they need to catch all the chapaas first
NO eta
Random number generator. A thing some gamers say denoting that something is up to chance whether or not you'll get it.
Also, "random number god", on occasion.
Ohhhhhhhh, that demon 😭
I think during patching the updates, all iron nodes became Palium nodes, devs are taking time to convert them back to normal, :p
I'm probably showing my age here, but I always end up picturing the dog from Duck Hunt laughing when you miss during Palia maintenance, only it's a chapaa.
Was there any reason given why fish are reeled in backwards?
Caught that too eh?
omg that's so good, need that now, time to copy that animation and edit it to be a chapaa lol
If I understand this does that mean I’m old too
Does anyone know how to upgrade froma cooking fire for cooking?
same XD
leveling up cooking will unlock new recipes from Reth to learn for new cooking stations!
I am old too
Sorry, I didn't intend to call anyone out 
me too !
Old heads come out when a new cozy game releases
Sorry for jumping in late on this but multi-tasking with work as well 🙂 If you there is something that is missing please let us know, for the PaliaMaps site we do rely on user submissions as well as our own found ones. There are 2 of us that review and approve submissions at least once a day, but we normally try to do so more frequently.
I needed a break from constantly grinding ranked in valorant so cozy games is a nice brain reset
But this palia maintenance has me scratching my neck
I've been trying to grind rank in league; have a game this weekend
You will eventually end up with a stove, prep table, full kitchen (even a second stove!). But you will most likely continue using the campfire throughout.
same!!
Tradeing the Valorant grind for the Palia grind 👌
y'all got any of that... cozy in stock?? i just need a little..
I even called my lunch to play just to log on and see the maintenance screen
@obtuse locust YAY i love cooking
You will want to cook all your unstarred fish on the fire, unless used in other recipes
In that case, get yer butt over into #1143270926394335282 . Loads of cake party invites, and you'll see other types of cooking parties as well (I'm a big fan of masala parties, personally).
i somtimes forget to sprate so ill do that
What’s a cake party?! I just started playing palia 2 days ago
Ita a locked box yes
like what oowah said, i was just gonna say check out how cooking has essentially turned into "raiding" for this game
here's my favorite cooking party layout so far i've seen too from viaki.
that's lovely!
I'm predominantly a solo player. I'm not generally a fan of forced socialization in games like this. But Palia makes it incredibly easy to join in, even for a stodgy hermit like myself. Just don't be afraid to let people know you're new - players a generally super patient in Palia.
Oh thats very cool looking
the ritual shrine to cake at the entrance is just 
dont give away your empty treasure chests, build a stair way to heaven
We usually do an "everything party" xD ..
First we cook whatever's needed for quests/gifts.
Then we cook some of the more efficient money makers with whoever has materials (Noodle stew, Tomato soup, Apple pie).
And usually finish off with making Stir Fry till we're all out of mats.
Earns a pretty penny (we usually cook with 4-5 people)
"Raiding." I like that. Apt description.
thanks for the info !!!
these are the parties i love doing with my friends/community too haha more chaotic, but also more fun than a more traditional cake party 😛
What do the chests do?
!majimarket
Read more details here: https://palia.info/majimarket
We can't wait to see you there! 
@obtuse locust thank you thats exatcly why i dont play games like this but this one won my heart
they stack up! like lego pieces!
not yet! still being figured out, the update.
You'll get an in-game invite from Eshe once it's up. You'll be able to visit the site during the day, but festivities are only at night.
These slowmodes are crazy
chat would be nigh unreadable without them, general is already moving too fast with 5 min haha
Anyone know if you romance multiple people if they get mad? asking for a friend.................
General chat made me feel so overwhelmed just looking at it LOL
they don't! the only comment i have gotten so far was from Jel, but it wasn't anything bad, just him saying|| i am not upset i am a big boy i know how to share|| 🤣
People migrating to #🍧│palia-chill . I think timeout there is 15 minutes? It was 30 for awhile.
can romance all of them just can only publicly show it with 2 people with the pins
saaame, but the pet pics are cute when i stop by haha
As far as I know you can make seveal flirting but only have 2 relationships
Do I have to have the cake recipe in order to cake party? or can I just bring the ingrediants?
hassian has some choice dialogue about it but otherwise no one gets jealous or affects romance bar
Make Ashura romanceable!
only the recipe starter needs it! you might not even need any ingredients if you are a baker(operating an oven)!
okay, ty all!
Hey everybody, I just started playing on Sunday. I only have one question so far and I hope you can help me with it:
I have a lot of these empty treasure chests and I don't know what to do with them. I am currently putting them all in my storage chests because I cannot seem to sell those things. What do I do with them?
or a certain miner....
hello!! while waiting for the server, question though~ if u got into NPC romance, can u romance 1 NPC only or can have two AHA
What Eleanor said, but it's also considered good form to at least offer if you have the ingredients. I'm generally a leafer, and we put in a lot of leg work to make parties happen. Batter people have to spend a good chunk of cash for their ingredients beforehand.
they are just decoration, but as for gameplay usage, they are a loved gift for Tish if you want to raise your friendship with her!
Okay, thank you so much
You can stack them.
Or save them for later use (they're cosmetic at this point).
I made a treasure room displaying them
You are my hero!
thankfully decor items don't take up storage space
yeah, i usually will try to keep ovens to overflow offered jobs or brand new players our community want to help get a starting money boost that dont otherwise have any materials
they don't!
I had no idea. Thank you for letting me know
I've been hoarding my crafter furniture on the off-chance they'll suddenly be sellable (at super inflated prices).
yeah, you can store them no problem
yeah, I wish you could sell them
This is the way.
I'd be glad if I'd be able to sell them with purely the source item's sell value, so not turning profit on it, but at the very least not losing money on Decor I have to make in order to level or unlock other Decor
For what it's worth, I toss my excess furniture onto my second plot. At least that way I don't have to scroll so much through my storage, and it makes for a fun junkyard museum of sorts.
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Hello, new to the game. What do you do with the tent after you move houses? & how do I join a “cooking party” I’ve heard so much about. They look like so much fun
i noticed that being mentioned a bit earlier, and i definitely want to do that during night market downtime lol
do all crafting furnitures count towards the maximum placeable?
aha that sounds kind of fun actually
new val season just came out during downtime perfect time to play
do crops fully grow when offline
tent - just keep in storage, they won't take up space. cooking party - #1143270926394335282
Gives me something to do when I'm waiting for my crops to turn over at 5am lol
nope they just grow one tick/one cycle when offline
They grow while offline one cycle.
would be funny if they had musical instruments, numbers as notes, silly thing to do while waiting crops
we need sprinkler systems
dang was hoping they would be back up when I got back from the store...sigh
They're called potatoes and tomatoes
I'd rather a poop shooter.
glad im not the only one leaving the game open and just harvesting my crops lol
it seems like that is 100% a thing that will happen, i read about instruments being tested a bit in alpha.
well I am ready for the Hurricane..got ice...beer and eats ready lol
You can stack fertilizer already. It'll use one stack of it every day at 6am.
You forgot one crucial thing.
No, I mean one solid blast and you fert all 9 squares at once.
Up to max 10 days, iirc?
?
but you still need to water them when planting new seeds and I'm too lazy for that
What about electricity if it goes out?
Maybe they'll give us Ormuu hahah
I got candles and back up power for my cell and tablet
Ormuu mounts.
Ahahahaha yes! And you gotta walk him across your fields! I love it!
love to be able to afford one of those Propane Gas gen though
Clearly, the Oneness is not with you, you need computer backup for all your Palia needs 😄
They gotta earn their keep somehow
I was thinking Ormuu races.
I wanna race the crabs >_>
I want to have chappa as a pet 😅
We in WoW race snails lol
Who is going to be a animal lover when that feature is available?
Hello, new to the game. What do you do with the tent after you move houses? & how do I join a “cooking party” I’ve heard so much about. They look like so much fun
Woptinger races 😄
Okay, I actually wouldn't mind legit snail racing in Palia. Gotta catch a snail first to do it, and you can paint the shell with a mod kit.
Where can I access that grid people are using to plan their gardens?
I have the Snail as a battle pet now we got back in WoD.....he carries a race flag too.....his name is Zoom
You can keep the tent up or store it if you'd like. Cooking parties are just large groups of people making food together - you don't have to be invited, just find a group of people who want to cook the same thing and go for it.
1,678 battle pets later ....
Having said that, #1143270926394335282 is the place to be for cake parties.
Thank you
so guys you cann all go offline right now see you tomorrow
Is palia still not up?
I have a friend and we cook together, just the two of us. Each recipe is so varied that it's not hard to find one that suits the number of people you're with.
is there a benefit to cooking together?
🎶 just the two of us...🎶
You'll get a notification of when it's up in #📢│palia-status , provided that you selected the appropriate roles in id:customize !
everyone gets all the reward, so you use less materials for the product
Yep! You both get the food, and you can share ingredients. You don't even need the recipe if the other person has it.
If you're cooking the same thing everyone gets the product and you don't need to have all the ingredients for it
lit
Thank you ❤️ I was just wondering if I missed something c:
I'm refunding this game on Steam! Servers down?!?!? How DARE! /s
Nope! Just like us, you're only missing playing Palia 😭
i hope they do something like a boost to the amount of palium/flow logs gained the more people that interact with the node in order to help give those that aren't very wanting to share them will have a game reason to.
I got so excited when the Discord event ticked lol
We have the Maji event that starts later today too
Hopefully
are they gonna upload an update?
well hope they are up by 9pm EST that is when it starts
I wouldn't mind a slight tweak to herb spawns, but yeah, the rest of it seems okay to me. I'm never totally out, but I also have to occasionally go get more. It'd be boring if everything was just handed to me as soon as I step out my door.
Why by 9pm EST?
yeah the epic herb spawns feels a biiit, i'm not sure, hard to justify not spending tokens on haha getting dari cloves is such an excursion. like i get it being difficult, but my goodness lol
isn't it happening like rn
supposed to happen, at least lol
it was planned to be right now but they are running late yeah
it was supposed to, if all things proceeded as planned. but there are delays due to whatever hecked up
Amazing 
event time is based off palia time
Having said that, I still think we could do with some very minor stuff in our home. A small mine that takes 24 hours to respawn, or flowers that attract a handful of common bugs. Maybe a dari clove we can plant that gives a limited number of cloves before we have to go get another. Something akin to that.
I'm selfishly a little glad because I am very stuck at work and I want to play so badly
amen to that lol
Why are we so worried about the event. It happens between 6pm to 3am Palia time everyday. Not like we are missing out when its maintenance mode.
omg that would be so nice...def want this now dang it haha
not worried, excited
But I have to work later and want to play now
anyone else have server maintenance?
I think it is odd that once you reach a certain level most of your time is spent in the other zone. Hardly anyone around the starter zones. There is a cap of 25 people per zone but it seems like a huge area that goes to waste quickly
I hope for your sake it's soon then!
unfortunately everyone has maintenance
Check #📢│palia-status
devs take my energy but also i'm so impatient i need the cozy omg
2h 5m on overtime for update been sitting here glued to discord hopeing it's done soon🙏
you gotta send them more pet pics to make the update happen
muy bueno lo que dice, que sigan viniendo fotos de mascotas.
I see people of all levels in both zones. There are certain hours that are busier than others.
Also, with the incoming event, a lot of people were scrambling to make as much gold as possible doing cake parties. I suspect many people were at home the past couple of days, so to speak.
Why do people think that they have been singled out for server maintenance? What am I missing?
they just don't check the status ever
probably just not in the loop with #📢│palia-status lol
event
When you try to log in, it clearly says servers are down for maintenance...........
You have to understand too, sometimes it can be someone's first online game and not in tune what "Maintenance" means.
i think they just wanna make sure it isn't anything wrong exclusively on their end. and yeah possibly has to do with what etrigan said, not entirely understanding the idea of maintenance for an online game.
sorry i just started playing three days ago sorry i dont know everything bro
tbf .. the clue is in the words 'down for maintenance'
don't worry! we are here to help. i totally get wanting to make sure you understand everything right.
There is no need to be sorry.
I don't think it's directed at a single person... it's just that every time maintenance happens it's announced and suddenly a flood of screenshots of 'help I can't get in' and no one scrolls up or anything lol
It might seem simple for those who are in the loop of how online games work but as mentioned above, its a foreign term. All we need to do is be informative, and direct them to answers.
i tried to scroll up but theres also like 100+ messages like every min theres a lot of people in here lol
to be honest, i do find it mildly entertaining 
I agree, but I think it's fair to say not all of Palia's players are diehard online gamers. I also suspect a fair number of them avoid other mmos (it has combat, not old enough, not cozy, etc), which typically have downtime for maintenance.
Just wait till maintenence is done and everyone tries to log on at the same time and the servers really crash!
Blizzard all over
for any system, game or not - down for maintenance means unavailable - ijs
lol god imma wait a little bit after its done to avoid that mess
shakes head
Damn I hope it becomes live again soon I was hoping for some tau puppy time before work
Let's put it another way - know anyone who has to "test" the wet paint sign?
shakes head too
I would too but I need to water my tomatoes!!!!
i wish i could be down for maintenance so i didnt have to deal with my impatience
now that should be someone's bio
Takes out the rod, casts and yanks the 'im' off of impatience. From one fisher to another 😄
instant twitter/ig bio lmao
can you romance multiple characters?
I just hope to play before i have to give a lecture on web server security and maintenance patching tonight!
hahahahaha as a veteran fishing minigame enjoyer, i know that patience is fake and the real secret is to not want the rare fish and to also complain in game chat so that it lures them out 
you can! you can romance all of them without a negative effect.
yes you can do all 9 if you want, no negative consequences to any of their romance bars 🙂 you might get choice dialogue here and there but no outright jealousy or NPCs breaking up with you or whatever
😮
What a perfect segway into explaining, "Have you guys ever heard of Palia?" "Let me give you a prime example of impatient (scratch that), very excited end users"
I made a community, but I don’t know how to change the name or description or how to delete it so I can join others
that's cool but also morally questionable LOL
I don't know what you are talking about, I speak sweet nothings to my potential catches.
if it helps, they all know you are dating the others, at least lore-wise, and those that are dateable are ok with it.
to delete it, you have to kick everyone out first. I odn't believe you can edit ityet.
the only time they are like, idk this is a bit weird, is reth and tish if you wear both their pins 🤣
Kenyatta recommends dating her boyfriend
wow so everyone is cool w being poly? that's cool
yup
I don't like that guy. He keeps trying to take his shirt off at me.
omg i can imagine considering they're siblings 😮
yes! i like to imagine that the ones you can't date that people really want to, (like hodari and sifuu) are monogamous
Do villager favorite gifts change or once you discover them they are always the same 4 things?
They change weekly to an extent - it'll almost never be something they'd NEVER like
for weeklies, they change each week! even a website was made that is very handy https://www.palianpc.com/
The wiki has a good chart too
Me and Tau off to the side, watching everyone get their heart on and sharing a stick of chapaa jerky...
Thanks. Looking now!
a question, if I already have NPC's maxed out, do I keep giving them gifts? Is there any advantage from this?
yep! nai'o and kenyatta are an established item, and when you romance either of them they give you the option of 1) breaking up with the other person 2) asks if you're ok with them dating both of you or 3) if you're ok with being in a throuple with them both
That page is missing all of the other things they like.
Ashura rejected my pinecone although the wiki said he likes it😭
i haven't found a bonus or anything for doing so, outside of quests for other NPCs that require gifting like Einar's level 3 romance quest
yooo whaaat that's wild
yeah! hahaha it's a very poly-positive community of NPCs (and players!)
Reported to the wiki team. Thanks!
Eshe and Kenli cough
because this is his likes for the week
i'm not irl poly, but in game, i need them all to feel loved and also i need their concept art photos 
You can give a gift every day. Those are likes and loves
Resets at 9pm Pst
There is a huge list of what all the villagers will take. The list is not complete but being worked on.
also, let me unlock Jina's glasses for my own character haha
its sad, because I have most of them maxed out for both romance and normal - and I have so much stuff to give in my chests 😄
Is this in your notes or is it listed somewhere?
I wonder who'll be first to turn in their Tish level 4 when the game is back up...
i hope they add something in the future that gives reason to do so! i mean, i know they'll add new NPCs, but just being "done" with a character makes me sad lol
Yeah I know, but last week I was attempting to give him extra gifts after the weeklies, thus I went to the wiki to look for things he likes, pinecone was listed, rejected
poly irl. monogamous in game. Tamala and I are going to take over the oneness
so what has to be done when we reach level 4 friendship ?
You can wear glasses already for the time being till they include more later.
lol yeah none of the adults bar Tamala are romanceable atm. if/when they clarify Majiri customs on marriage and relationships (when you're married, does that mean you cannot flirt/romance anymore? etc), and if/when they make the older adults romanceable im sure people can go for the married couples as well, e.g. Eshe/Kenli and Delaila/Badruu
they'll either show up at your house, give you mail, or able to be talked to for their level 4 quest
Pine cone is not listed on the wiki page
yes yes i know, but i wear large circular glasses irl and Jina is the only one that has them in game 😭
It was at the time, last week or so
I see
Oh I know. I was just drawing parallels to their ...relationship. I'm curious if there will be any developments there down the road.
Work in progress.
and for romance how to we access to it ? after the friendship level reaches 4 ?
so long as you have done the prior level quest, you should be given it a similar way! generally the level 4 quest involves making a pin to give to the NPC like they gave you for the level 3 quest with Sifuu's help
3 and you give them a box of chocolates and a flower.
Who in their right mind would want to date Kenli lol
diff opinions of ppl
you could ask the same about Eshe, tbf hahaha (i would sooner date Eshe than Kenli, but that's just me)
he's just a loveable goofball that sucks at everything!
I lost all respect for Kenli ||after he kept screwing over Delailah||
Does anyone know how to get the sashimi recipe? I know it's in Bahari but yesterday I spent all irl day fishing and found nothing
Im not ready for Einar in his current form
Where do you get an oily anchovy?
for the moment i reached level 4 with Jina and named her my shepp I had the welcome celebration, (all my others NPC are level 3) but i have not seen anything about a pin
to be fair, it's because he has no backbone and is being hounded by his sister from the city who holds control over kilima
Heyo, if I were to join a cake party, do I need to have the cooking level/recipe myself? Or is it only for certain roles? Never done one before and am level 7 right now
he probably thinks she was secretly stealing his sandwiches
Sashimi recipe comes from Bahari Bay Rivers. I got mine at the spot by Proudhorn Pass
In Bahari Bay with worms
you need to have finished their level 3 friendship quest, then you can give them chocolates or a heartdrop lily to "declare your intentions", so to speak (i would not recommend giving them the heartdrop lily since it's a ridiculously rare find. just get the chocolates from Zeki's store)
only the recipe starter needs the recipe! you just need whatever the ingredients are for your station 🙂
Bahari river, no bait
Thank you!!
Thank you! Good to know 😄
Thanks!
fair enough lol i think he just never learned how to have a backbone and his sister so happens to be very strongwilled so 🤷♂️
ok i think i got it ! ty 🙂
be patient, I was fishing for fish stew for three days 😄
And make sure it's a river, like Thistle
cant wait to be able to go to the city and force her to be our friend and maybe give her some compassion in the process hopefully lol
So let me see if I understand the wiki correctly. The one gift a day and 1 requested item a week is in reference to real world days and weeks. So since a day in game is 1 hour, then I can only gift an NPC 1 non-liked item every 24 in game days and only 1 liked and 'weekly want' items every 150ish in game days?
and maybe (relationship spoiler) ||get her and Eshe back on good terms...||
yes please! no more familial strife haha
So basically if it is on the wiki list then I can only give it once a week but other stuff once a day (real time days and weeks)
I wouldn't mind dating Eshe, just for the challenge. It'd be like wrestling a bear, or a hot pepper eating contest.
A hot pepper eating contest lol
She'll watch you swallow the hottest pepper and still not be impressed.
hahahaha
oh same lol it'd be kinda like romancing Kenyatta or Hassian i imagine (in terms of it being a challenge to get to know them) but even spicier lmao
I don't see them ever being on good terms since ||the sister took Kenli's position and Eshe wanted the reputation of being his wife.||
I could be made of solid gold with green pearl eyes and that woman would still tell me it wasn't enough.
Great news we are getting our own kitty cat as a pet.....new quest line coming with this new patch .....woot...
That makes so much more sense. I tried to gift rice and tomato seeds to Badruu and it kept saying you already did that today. And I was like, no that was yesterday but it was ingame yesterday not yesterday
"not really my style but i suppose i can sell you for tax revenue..."
There are 2 like and 2 love gifts that can be given if you opened them all up. I think you need to be at lvl 4 with them for the 2nd love gift???
You can gift something once a day to every villager. I would give the loves/likes first if you have them.
sure, but i personally never say never hahaha i also feel like ||a shirt ton of their issues come from them being exes and Kenyara basically forcing Eshe to be Kenli's wife but 🤷♂️ ||
Resets at 9pm pacific
Solid gold, green pearl eyes, flow plank plaque, palium base, covered in jewel-tipped butterflies - "Not my style. Get out of my house."
My confusion was from too much stardew. 2 gifts and a birthday gift in an in game week
"Also, you reek of fish."
No no, you forgot to hold a sandwich in your hands too.
I lost my sandwich, sorry.
My favorite line of hers so far is "I hear you humans thumping all over my roof. How do you manage to get to places you aren't supposed to be?"
where'd you get this info lmao
the slightly meta comments always get me hahahaha
My favorite line in the game thus far has gotta be Einar going, "BEYOOOOOOOOOOND"
Patch 0.167 Notes
I love Einar. Dude is so wonky what with ||having multiple onenesses||
Einar is my love!
link? they haven't released patch notes yet lmao - hotfix isn't even done yet?
I was close to grabbing him as a shepp. Dude's a trip. I can't wait to see what's up with his froggie bucket.
i chose him for my shepp and he seemed so excited to ||"become like family" with me and i was just like 🥹 ||
I think Sifuu should be dateable. Hassian already treats me like his stepdad!
istg if this is from reddit they literally say it's a meme and not the official patch notes hahaha don't spread misinfo
Question: Is there any use to High Quality Cotton in making Cloth? Do I get more or does it take less time? I wasn't sure if I was wasting or not.
how do you get to use emojis ingame chat?
I don't use starred cotton for cloth because you actually lose value
She's not in the right place yet. I think she's ready tho. Girl got game, I recognize.
I flirted with Einar and my world was made immediately,
i sell star quality cotton for the reason mittoa said
All I'm producing is Star Quality though :\ do you guys plant non star seeds?
Reminds me of Illaoi in League!
gold quality cotton doesn't make gold quality fabric, I always sell gold quality cotton.
At gardening 25, all your crops are starred, fyi.
tbh i havent farmed cotton in a minute... i have been buying or requesting my cotton from others haha
i always try to plant star seeds
If that's all you can produce, go ahead and use it. I'd only make cloth though when you need it for something so minimize loss
Only if you plant star seeds I thought?
Nope
huh interesting
Perk of the skill.
Thanks. I've recently just swapped from ALL tomato to all the crops. But they're all starred at this point lol
Getting there, I was breaking my star cotton into seeds and the regular into fabrics. Other star crops generally went to pickling or food.
QUESTION: How do you use emojis in ingame chat? (I have the emoji button but nothing appears when I press it)
i fricking love your pfp
Thank you ^_^
I wish that were true, I am level 28 in cooking and even starred resources can end up with an ordinary dish, it is rare though, but nothing is guaranteed by cooking at level 25 and above 🙂
I hope that changes. At high enough skill, meals should be guaranteed starred results
That's absolutely sad!
jojo sailor moon?
looks like it lool
correct 😄
awesome lol
Fishing 25 you get a small party boost automatically or something. Faster mining/tree cutting. I agree wholeheartedly. The gardening perk makes the other skills feel a bit empty as a result.
I haven't gotten there yet myself but that would seem like it tracks based off of how other things scale. The cooking skill doesn't require crafters where most other skills do. unless I'm missing anything I think the only crafter cooking has is the preserves jar.
Agreed. Outside of locked recipes, the lvls in Palia feel somewhat useless. No increased perks or anything like farming
Apologies for any confusion - these perks are not in the game, just wishful thinking. The only confirmed perk thus far is gardening 25.
gotchuuu
Is it written somewhere in game or was it found by players ?
just player observations
People just figured it out.
Cause I noticed the rate of quality crops increase with level but it's not written anywhere
So there could be other things that are in game but people haven't found yet ?
Like 95% of this game. It's been an enjoyable experience exploring before things like the wiki or gaming sites get ahold of the answers.
It's possible. Datamining isn't allowed so what people have learned is just from personal experiences
I'm still finding new things.
same
I find that the higher my mining the more rare ore I find
what did people figure out though? what is the line of conversation?
It's definitely not something I can confirm without making a new account and documenting every node I mine, but it seems to be much easier as I level up.
What's your mining at?
I thought the idea was that when you level up more the more chance you have to find better/more ore with every node you mine.
Mainly the alpha/closed beta testers. For myself, I mainly stuck to fishing and exploration, figuring out where all the bugs spawned and so on.
11 so far. Not super high by any means, but I found as much rare ore between levels 9 and 11 as I did from 1-9
people have done some testing with hunting too - starred drops from base level critters seems to dramatically rise with higher levels too
That would make more sense IMO
same here
Yeah that makes it hard to track
I logged all my crop gathering at low level and then later at higher level and noticed there was a big difference
But even if you're logging everything you're leveling too quickly as you go to have a big enough sample
People are saying the same sorts of things regarding max focus and star foods while cooking. I'm not sure if that's a thing or not, just something I've seen mentioned.
I kind of doubt max focus matters tbh
same
I'm at 750 focus and it still says I'm just at 25% boost.
i think what that tooltip implies, is that you wanna make sure you have enough to get the full benefit from the exp gained or else you wont get all of it
Oof, that drove me mad. It was almost three weeks into playing before I found out your focus bar doesn't have to be maxed for the gains.
For starred food tests on level 25+- A friend of mine and I tested a decent amount of sashimi, all unstarred ingredients, and it was 50/50 for quality vs. regular.
the boost is from the phoenix shrine
Because boost is different from max. Need to give offering to phoenix shrine to increase boost
oooooh
I'm of the opinion that rarity drop increase scaling with level not only seems consistent with my game so far, but makes sense as a consistent reward.
Cooking starred foods seems more likely higher up or at the very least cooking takes less focus
riiip
Brilliant! Thanks Twi, appreciate the info.
speaking of, does the boost cap at 100%?
Food still takes the same amount of focus (I've stalked it the last two cake parties I've been in) unless it's a hard change at the 25 threshold.
There was no difference in star quality sashimi after level 50, either. (Was still 50/50).
But again- these are just my tests. They're not guaranteed to be 100% accurate
It would also allow for easy implementation of additional motivation to level by just adding another rarity level, like 2 or 3 star materials.
yeah, this kinda sucks IMO.
I have blueberry jam that nearly maxes my bar, so it's wasted if I use another with a bit of focus left. Pretty sure I lost my apple harvesting bonus RIP
back to work for me 😦 loving the conversation though
The amount of renown you can have at any one time is 1000 so others won't be confused.
It seemed like a hard change at 25 to me but okay good to have some data, maybe not
interesting. considering a star-quality cake is more focus than 1000
My cooking is 54 - Out of making 50 loaded potato soups about 10 were unstarred
I think focus is a 1:1 to exp (at 100%, of course), so using less focus sounds a bit odd?
there was suspicion of an overflow, though that felt more like a bug than a feature
Were the ingredients all normal?
I'm no judge, but I spent a day doing nothing but cake parties and jumped from something like level 19 all the way to 31 or 32. I noticed when I started cooking by myself again that I was having significantly better results.
I'm also hyper aware that confirmation bias is a thing.
25 cooking is probably about when I maxed out focus so yeah 😅 makes sense and was probably just that
Potatoes and onion were starred, garlic/butter wasn't. And about 1/4 of the meat was starred
Yes it is roughly the same as with gardening, there is a slight chance that a fertilizer or buff from neighbouring plants isn't being used when harvesting, again it is rare, but it happens, for example I have an apple tree that is fully buffed and yet it sometimes give me 16 apples instead of 24, I think this is intentional and not a bug 🧐
Damn... really sad
guys, i have a question. do i get more xp with a villager when i gift them what they exactly want? or does it not matter
i tried placing star apple/blueberry jam on a table but couldn't,i thought it would like tomato soup and so
Preserves of any kind & campfire food can't be placed on tables. 😦
Weekly gifts seem to do more than regular, unrequested gifts in my experience.
Since i am still new to the game and now the discord-server of it, i would want to ask some questions.
What is the max. lvl of the skills actually?
No max level! But you get "max" trophies at level 50.
I don't believe there is a max.
unknown, over 70 though
Yeah, preserved stuff doesn't count as placeable
rip my decorated kitchen table
The heck x.x i didn't even reach lvl 10 yet D:
definitely over 200, too. there are some people that cook a lot that are over 200
Some of the cake partiers are level 400, so it's over that at least. 
wow, nice
Oh yeah, some of the cooks are nuts with the levels lol
that's sad,it would look so cute,wanted a nice pantry look
Whats cake party
ur an angel. thank u 
Und what are those cake-partys that are open and closed that much?
people splitting up the 15 steps across 15 people! here's all the details
people look for extra people in #1143270926394335282
didn't know there is a wiki already too tho xd
I'm at a bit of a standstill where I don't know what to do next, I just got my house built and I have a few quests that are going to take me a while because I don't have much money or resources. I need to give gifts to five NPC's, I need to get leather and fabric to get a glider and I don't have any food or really any materials except wood and stone. I just planted some carrots before the maintenance but I am not sure if they will sell for a profit at all. I have been selling all of the bugs and flowers I get because I am so low on money, I haven't got the backpack upgrade or anything, tips appreciated. 🙂
note: grab a role in id:customize if you can't post there
can I just say how much better that wiki is than fandom's wiki? Omg. Thank you, Palians!
Anyone know when the servers will be up?
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/ use this to plan harvests tbh
Honestly, focus on one thing at a time instead of spreading yourself so thin. I only recently started gifting npcs after working on my various skills and building up money
we don't, no, we are just hoping they can resolve the issues soon haha
Very cool, thank you Eir!
i'm not much into the game, does it even get explained anywhere, how the crops are doing well eacht other?
i got a problem with stacking items on my plot like fish bowls or chests......does it only happen to me where the stacks of items would glitch when moving them around????
I'd focus on the backpack first since its 500g and helps expand what else you can carry with you. LEather and fabric can be bought for the glider tho
I don’t know the best place to ask, but I put in a ticket about my missing RAF glider, and I still haven’t heard anything back. I filed it as a big report, which might now have been wise…….
as in what they do to the neighboring plants as companion plants? it does say what they provide in the description i am pretty sure!
Something I'm starting to think new players might need to be aware of, or at least gently reminded of: the cake parties, while super fun and great gold income, aren't the be-all/end-all. Masala is a great focus food. I get together with other fisherfolk sometimes to make buff foods. You may even find yourself overwhelmed jumping into a x50 cake party right away.
Try some local group cooking first. Get a few friends together and make a few cakes by yourselves. Then throw your own cake parties!
Of course, feel free to call me boomer and tell me to mind my own business 
You're right, I think I need to focus on making money first and then that will help me out with everything else, right?
they are extremely swamped with tickets, it took me 2 weeks to have one of my tickets answered
Go on a hunting massacre. Even nerfed it will net you a decent amount of pocket change to get you started. Sell all the hide, cook the meat into grilled meat, sell the horns
in every language? i'm not playing in english, the tuts are due to this very special
maybe i missed out because of it
I hate killing the animals, it makes me feel so bad that they run scared 🤣 I still do it obviously
i totally agree with this, my partner when starting, i didnt wanna throw cake parties into their face 🤣 so i just asked some community members to come over so we could do some group cooking with less people
Question do friendship levels decrease over time?
No
We're all just META gamers in the end 
fastest way to get a quality wild garlic?😩 i need for trout recipe, i barely find them
focus on one thing at a time whether that's a quest or skill building, then just make your way across the list of things to do. early game-wise, bugs and hunting are your best bet to make fast money. you'll need to get lvl2 on furniture making to get the loom for the leather and fabric to make a glider, so you'll also want to forage quite a bit of wood for that (to level up furniture making). the crops do sell for a bit, tho yeah id recommend bugs or hunting to help bring in cash flow
chapaas are invasive species for this region dw
Just buy from zeki
no one 🥲 ?
Then get a full garden and plant tomatoes. Make a profit and start buying seed makers and glow worm farms ;D I'm running about 7-8 seed makers with 3 glow worm and 1 worm farm :S
@cerulean junco really? i can buy quality items from Zeki?
When can I start the romance option with a character?
SAME. I tried a pacifist approach, but had to turn to the dark side to progress. 
it's common that they go invisible and stuff. move it again to find it, or relog
Oh quality, no
oh ok
No. Your best bet is to run around and pick up everything you see and hope a quality on respawns in it's place
you might just need to get on a higher POV, get on top of a chair or table so you have a better vantage point to place chests/tanks on top of one another (this is assuming treasure chests - you can't stack the storage chests)
Yeah I love challenging myself to not kill animals in games like minecraft and stuff but it's not really possible in Palia yet 🤣
friendship 3, then give chocolate or heart flower
oky
My first cake party was super friendly, and I am by no means a social gamer. It was very inviting and I didn't feel like I was in the way. But I also had no idea what I was doing or where I was supposed to be, because I'd only made 1 cake on my own at that point. I even thought cakes were ONLY supposed to be a group thing - which isn't entirely off the mark, I suppose. I for sure was a little overwhelmed.
I have the recipe for the loom but I can't get bars yet, I'm guessing I need a recipe for the forge or something
it's random from the wild garlic spawns in the world unfortunately. you can get some around chapaa crossing or bahari bay in general
Too bad we can't pay Hassian to do all the sad stuff for us 😄
how does that work? i mean why that many seed makers and how do you get glow worms? i only get normal ones
If I'm maxing everyone, should I do this ASAP?
Do regular gifts add to the romance meter at the same time as friendship?
tysm
yeah you need to level up a bit (not sure if 2 or 3) to get the recipe for a smelter with hodari, that will let you make bars
yeah, avoiding overwhelming new players imo is priority number 1 for me haha i try to introduce concepts to them one at a time if possible
Awesome, thank you!
Glow worm farm is a reward from fishing.
You're all super helpful, I appreciate it!
Romance only grows with gifts of chocolates or heartdrop lillies (and flirting).
As for friendship, you can do it at your own pace! I would suggest getting it out of the way for recipe collection & area access, though!
try checking paliamaps.com or https://mapgenie.io/palia - hopefully it helps pin down some general areas where wild garlic spawns!
ahaa, but i guess it takes a looong time to archieve it?
I love that the fertiliser looks like straight up fresh poop 😍
‼️ when cooking something that has chopped meat, does anyone run into an issue where u cant add the meat as an ingeredient into the pot???
I had no idea the batter menu would jump around like that with so many people cooking. I kept accidentally making frosting because I didn't know to lock up my unwanted mats either. 😅
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/ helping for farmers
i think i have some spare of the stuff you need for the glider if you'd like to just request it (once servers are up again ofc) - but if you want to have a go at it yourself that's all well and good as well 🙂
I think it’s like 2 levels up from the base worm farm. I think lvl 7? But it does take 12 flow planks to make
omg yes, i learned this earlier on cooking with less people, but with 15 people, that issue jumps up SO exponentially lol
The normal worm farm is the first one you unlock, with the level progress you will unlock the glow worm farm. I plant tomatoes, spread fertilizer/water on them, farm them when they are ready and put them in the seed makers and worm farms, which give me normal worms and glow worms as well as quality up fertilizer and harvest boost fertilizer. I only now started adding the harvest boost one to the crops, but from 1 full cycle in the seed makers I make about 15k gold.
forget it then haha i just have a copper axe 🥲
Can't say I've had this issue. You chop meat at the prep table and click the stove to add it in (F is another interact but that's for stirring some dishes)
anyone? 🥲 i keep wasting food 
If you get in with a group who can take down a tree, you can tag it and get the loot. As long as you can damage it, you're good.
but how do you make money by seeds?
doesnt work!! ive tried so many times
i can add all ingredients except for the meat
Fishing question here: If I cast the hook and a fish bites, will it be the same fish that continues to bite if I don't reel it in or a new one?
Relog or submit a bug report. The game can be finicky
i thought i can't dmg it? i can't even dmg the bigger trees tbh
Selling the seed bags. They cost more than the tomatoes as a single. Will see how much produce I make with the harvest boost one as it will give me more tomatoes to work with.
Do you need to put it in the oven first? That got me stuck the first time I made the loaded potato soup
If you get a message that your axe isnt good enough then yeah you cant damage it. If you hit it but it regenerates then you just need enough people
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i never checked!! maybe
I had an issue where my char would freeze up and be unable to move after using a prep table. I could pivot and look around, but feet glued to floor and unable to do actions. The solution was to hit H (to pop up the house build grid), and then H again to go back to normal mode.
Oh, interesting to know, i didnt think the seeds would make more money
I believe many of the recipes using meat require it to be cooked in the oven, but there is one that requires it to be cooked on the stove instead!
damn didnt know that, thanks
just be aware you need tons of seed machines to sell seeds since they take forever to process 🙂
And they are quality ones, I always make sure I have enough to replant the garden if needed when the plants start to disappear after being harvested a few times as the tomatoes can be harvested multiple times, before you need to replant and the rest is bagged and tagged and made into worms and fertilizer ;D
general is on absolute fire right now, it is scary in there lol
See, this is where it gets janky. I know there's an error at low level axe when chopping trees. However, a group of us had a purple tree in Chapaa Crossing the other day, and one of our party said he wasn't able to chop flow trees yet. We had already taken a few swings, so we said why not and he hit it - and damaged it. He also got the loot drop when we took it down.
I'm not saying it works that way because I can't say for sure what the other player had as an axe, but he said it was standard, and it was a big purple tree, and I saw him pick up the loot. I haven't been able to test myself without breaking my axe on purpose. So I guess take it with a grain of salt, and try it if you get the chance?
it still blows my mind that the most profit per cycle is lines of tomato/potato and wheat/rice, rather than something with apples lol
well well, i sure have to write this one down, even if it will work poorly at the start xD
I tend to avoid "general chat" in any major Discord. Stuff gets wiiiiilllld xD
What friendship level before i can give chocolate?
I did start with a mixed garden, there are guides for that, but it takes forever to plant the seeds in the right place.
3 with a completed quest
this is my path too. It's working nicely!
3
level 3!
i will, the next time i play and i get some notification that there is one
i just saw one until now of these trees
How do you even get the apples and blueberries??
Thanks u fwends
You get apple seeds from a quest with Nai'o I think, cant remember who gave me the berries.
wouldnt selling the veggies themselves be more profit
Harvest boost gives one additional produce
I had a mixed garden (now I'm switching to blueberries/apple/potates/tomates for 100% watering)- If you harvest one crop type at a time it makes planting so much easier! And the good part is you just have to have your mouse directly on what you want to harvest- you don't have to move to harvest.
you can get apple seeds from Nai'o and Zeki's friendship quest as rewards (lvl3 i believe?) and blueberry seeds from Badruu (again Lvl3 i believe) you can also buy those from badruu at Lvl10 gardening for medals
That's really sweet, I'll think about it 😍
Please remember to spawn iron and paladium stone needs mined out to give it a chance to spawn. Flow trees can be spawned by having wood cutting parties
For what it's worth, I made my axe my first exquisite tool. Made sense to me, as everyone knows where the palium nodes are so finding a group usually isn't an issue, and fishing/hunting/bugs are just a means to get more gold. Purple wood, on the other hand, is super awesome to have a lot of.
there's a few options! level 3 with badruu will get you apple tree seeds, also level 10 so you unlock the gardening guild tokens you can buy the seeds with those as well. as for more niche ways, you can get the seeds via zeki's gacha but you can also do a neat little trick with requests. normally you wouldn't be able to request items you haven't obtained yet, but this is different for cooking. if you unlock pies, you can go to the apple pie, and click request on the apples. you can then request enough apples to have 10 and then use those with a seed maker to make an apple tree seed for an even earlier workaround to level 3 with badruu or level 10 gardening.
Similar with foraging and dari
In addition to the quests (best way to get things then you use a seed maker to make more) - you can buy the seeds from the farmer guy for guild tokens once you are over level 10 gardening/farming.
I wonder how they'll change flow trees. They mentioned them in the dev diary
my problem is, as other startes say, that i don't have enough income to buy everything that is needed as well as i am unlucky, because someone is always getting all the copper and iron i need x.x
its so annoying not being able to gift someone more than once a day..............what even is the point of that
I fished my way to financial freedom 😄
is Tamala in the game?
wait, what? you don't have to move to harvest?
Hopefully it's not just removing the unaccessible ones
Depends, Take tomatoes for example, the starred tomato sells for 40-45 gold, but if you convert them to seeds, starred tomato seeds sell for 60 gold each. Each tomato makes 1 seed(?) so you're making more gold by turning them into seeds. But wheat or cotton lose value being turned into seeds so, I usually sell those IGNORE THIS. I am wrong 😂
I’m always down for a mining party!
to make it where you don't get everything done in a couple of hours....
Also if you look for a Heartdrop Lily make sure you climb to high places as well and use your glider and climbing to move around that area and look there for it as I found mine in a quite high place and not in the statue garden as it was mentioned somewhere.
How do you find community to join?
To prevent users from making multiple accounts and exploiting it
ohh never checked
I wouldn't even know, where to get the expensive fish i could get with only worms (which i haven't that much either)
I legit had one growing inside one of the bigger unchoppable trees in Bahari today. I heard the sound and was like "what in the...?" So I took a swing, it went down in one hit, and of course the loot was stuck inside the bigger tree 
My understanding is that wheat doesn't really lose value when you account for multiple seeds?
im not sure on best place to fish with just worms to get better fish....
This is what you want 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15g9wAkZwKahEIDu8rSSXzA_-wYDaax4MD4cYkDxaWrM/
thanks!
Turning anything into seeds is a gain, there is no loss
i converted wheat to seeds and its ok for planting but not for selling the seed the price drops down like big time !
yeah just a little far away from everyone else, she stays in the far far north of bahari bay, but usually ventures down near central stables in the evenings (7pm onwards0
maybe if there stood how much which fish is worth haha
And if the magic deer stops teleporting inside the textures that'd be great ;D
except for wheat and cotton !
Nothing lose value if turned to seeds. Some just give less profit.
But the info is there?
Not really! You just have to have your mouse aimed at what you want to harvest- it's minimal movement compared to running around spamming f. 🙂
There's a column listing both regular and star quality gold amounts on there.
1 wheat (49) gives 4 seeds (4 * 18 => 72)
unless you plant it its ok but if you want to sell the seed its not good
It's late haha i guess im to tired xDD
I think you're mistaken
All seeds give a profit
i checked the selling price of wheat and wheat seed and its not the same
wheat and rice do give a profit converted, just not as much as other seeds like maters.
selling seeds is always more profitable than selling the veggie
Yes but multipy by 4
Welp, I've probably been playing the game wrong then xD
there is no wrong, only learning 
No worries. If you want a tip from an old fisherman, do your newbie fishing in your home pond, with worms. You can immediately grill or sell anything you catch, grilled fish makes decent worm food, and with your shipping bin right there you can just run back and forth instead of carting yourself all over Palia.
That is actually excellent advice 👍
Too many people focus on maximizing everything in order to get as much gold as fast as possible and end up being far behind on other game elements.
There is no reason not to improve things, but it is a game and is supposed to be fun and enjoyable, don't turn it into a chore like real life is, most will regret doing so, and yes people may also call me a boomer, but I stand by my words 😁
Can one give a heart drop lily to their crush instead of a box of chocolates? Or does it have to be a box of chocolates?
it can be a lily instead yes! those are both weekly romance gifts, as well after starting the romance track.
im so overwhelmed at the idea of a cake party lol idk if ill ever do one
I don't agree with cake parties and am 100% it'll get nerfed.
but there is no good fish in it, is it? i just caught some koi without worm, i guess, that with worms, there would be nothing special too
curious, why don't you agree with them?
profits would be low as well i guess? it would be only good for worms?
Server down for Maintenance or is it an update?
S6 has already said a cake nerf is on the way btw
Yeah I'm good with 1-4 person cakes but more feels exploitive to me. Not shade on people doing them, but it's just not for me at bigger scales!
patching + starting the event
it's the biggest update yet, at least in open beta
circumvents natural game progression in a short amount of time, the social aspect is fine and intended, the result is not
Huuuuge update #📢│palia-status
Cake parties are cool and all but none of my friends grind hard enough for us to do them efficiently. =.=
where? i keep hearing this rumour but haven't seen any official comments on it
Down for maintenance because it is an update
thank you!
Is Palia online rn?
They also mentioned in General yesterday how they're listening to concerns and weren't planning on it initially!
x.x
Any links to said update for info? palia-news doesn't have much
ahhh bruh i didnt find that channel xd thanks
if they nerf price, it will only make glow worm farm turnaround more OP, so when they nerf it, i wonder if it will be more targeting how many people can cook a recipe at once.
got that on copy/paste yet palian? xD
You're welcome!
Status doesn't say anything either
Number of players caking seems the right way to go IMO
They'll hopefully be getting creative yeah!
o.o
They don't usually release patch notes until after the update is live
no news yet since they announced that maintenance will be extended for longer than anticipated. we'll just need to wait until they post another update in #📢│palia-status
Are you referring to patch notes?
Yes, looking for info on what is changed/fixed and new
Okay, a little bit of math (it's fine, I hate numbers too):
You have 2x Calico Koi, easily caught and you'll get lots of them. They're worth 23 gold each, unstarred. So what you do is take those two fish and grill them on your campfire. Because of how cooking works, the Grilled Fish you get will be worth at least 46 gold (the value of the two fish combined).
Here's the neat bit: unstarred fish can turn into a star quality Grilled Fish when you cook them, which increases the overall value. So you can actually make a profit off grilled fish - you would get a Grilled Fish valued at maybe 50 gold, or something like that.
Starred fish, unfortunately, are not worth doing this with, as you won't be able to get more than their original value.
Does anyone know why I can't talk in the event chats?
That hasn't been released yet. We have to wait till maintenance is over and servers are live.
oh...
you probably need to add it to your channel list first (you'll find the button in the upper right area)
yeah i did the math earlier cause i wanted to double check. doesnt matter if its base quality or star quality
get the role from id:customize
anyone knows when the maintance ends?
no
Sooo, i will head to bed. I guess i will start tomorrow with the market! If anyone is interested in being a play-partner, just send me e request or message in discord! I am usually active until now, starting 4-5h earlier befor now xDD
Thanks everyone for your help and have a good night or whatever it is where you live 🥲
o/
Only star wheat will give profit but if its not star it losses value if you convert to seed
multiply by 4
heh, that image is a 1:1 ratio, 1:4 is what kate and others are on about
Not all seeds are created equal (looking at you, apples
)
poor apples
love apples
This is what I forgot to do too... (multiply)...
I really can't wait for my first apple seed 😛
And 25 is the buying price, selling price is 12 for normal and 18 for starred
I hate the FPS drops with apple tree's though, when walking under/near.
Mmm apples 🍎
1 wheat becomes 4 seed packs
Wish they can tweak the icon for either the apples or tomatoes, very similar.
Lucky coins aren't giving me any >< almost to the 280 tokens
YES. PLEASE. My old man eyes can't take it.
And yes, I've planted apple trees thinking they were tomatoes. It sucks.
Ooof
"Whelp, guess I'm making jam."
is that you in your profile pic? Cause you don't look old, like at all lol
whats a cake party
That photo is maybe from a year or two ago. I'm 42...43? 43.
if you have apple pies unlocked, you could friend me in game and I can give you some apples that way for you to throw into a seed maker!
damn, I'm 39 and look 80 lol.... 😄
lol
(and feel 200) xD
I look like a wee babbi when I shave.
I can say I don't feel that old anymore...
@next vector Genes weren't nice to you
totally etri lol
Are the servers still down D:?
mood... on the wrong comment >_<
I received an apple pie, you're saying that unlocked my apple request ability?
s a m e I'm 34 but ended up w/ an autoimmune thing going on that's genuinely made me feel 80 lol
we should get a refund kate! 😄
i prefer to multiply by 4 tomatoes 😄
lol I mean same I'm just saying teh math maths so it's a profit no matter what you turn to seeds - some things like tomatoes just profit harder
Im just glad most people ive seen in this game are old-ish too
Then I'll most definitely take you up on that, thank you for the offer! Even more of a reason to root for the Palia team to get the kinks worked out of this patch 😄
all teh apples for mes!
Been looking forward to apples for way too long, got lucky (and spoiled) with an early blueberry seed 😄
I don't judge either way. I've met some 6 year olds who are smarter and more polite than some 60 year olds I've met. But yeah, it is nice knowing I'm not the only fogey.
in that nice little break we have atm i worked out my new gardening setup with 2 trees and 4 berrybushes. Should work pretty good
badaruu gives you apples via his quests, if that helps
Im not judging, it's just a bit weird to hang out and play with people much younger 😭 So Im glad there's lot of us at the 30's age range lol
there something online showing the sale prices for all that?
it doesn't lose value when you do the math - don't worry about that statement
fogey haha, fellow brit? 😄
oh, for sure - not worried...just like resources that i don't have to create myself lol
Oh I agree entirely. Sorry, I didn't mean to say you were judging.
Anyone know the most optimal money making plot?
Appreciate that @next vector, I know I was working on at least some from him, I'll probably get a ton of apples thrown at me and immediately get the quest where he gives me a bunch after, lol
How do you tell age in game? Heh. Unless people volunteer that. Speaking of, we need a lot more options for chars that include some actual grey hair, as well as some older adults NPCs. There is nobody at all I would even consider romancing! A lovely bearded professor though, maybe. A traveling bard with some life experience and a few lines on his face? I assume they will add more as time goes on.
lol yep, you'll get so many you won't have the room xD
Close enough. Canadian, east coaster. Irish through and through.
https://palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/ bottom, change options
for money, there's nothing more per in game cycle than rows of tomato/potato alternating and wheat/rice alternating
ahh! 😄
the fishing thing from einar is pretty awesome... you use 2 ingrediance at a campfire for 5 sek and get 95-140 from it... and they can be farmed very easy
You don't! It's more of a, it's comforting to know it and that its someone you can vibe with. Don't know if that makes sense
I thought there was an apple/blueberry plot that generated a ton of cash past lv10
yup, if you can stomach the mat farming, it's not bad at all
there is, but it is about 1k less than tomato/potato and wheat/rice per in game day
@agile jolt
why do we need to know the age in the first place ? its fun the mystery and the spirit of the person!
people get really fighty about what's highest profit
Get you some fishing buffs too. Helps immensely, especially when you're after the big fish.
The people in game all seem to have a very friendly vibe so I just don't think about age at all. The game has been fantastic that way so far. Just kind and friendly.
it's just max profit including apples and blueberries, but tomato/potato and wheat/rice is still more in raw cash value per in game cycle 🙂
are 3 next to an apple tree enough? then i work it over
I also made one in the downtime 😄 I didn't bother with blueberries though since grow boost is bugged anyway and doesn't work. Plus this setup is very cozy and easy... all those min-max plots take so long to setup and they're so ugly @.@
do we get a compensation?! like a big company would do it?
the symmetry pleases my OCD sael haha
guys i need help i cant find the game on my files
minmaxing is a hell of a drug 
My crop plots are currently serving as my sidewalk and I spend my gold on fireworks, so I feel you 😆
what side do you use there?
i don’t think we will considering the game is free on top of ppl being toxic towards devs
compensation for what exactly?
I think #💻│tech-help would be a better place to ask
could you clarify what you mean by that? 😮
ty ❤️
webside
New stickers as compensation 😂
oh, yeah what OoWah linked
thanks
lots of stickers of nai'o? I'm in! 😛
compensation for what? a free game...lol
nothing to do with free to play or not .. its on EVERY single mobile game like that .. or genshin impact or stuff .. generall asia games .. Maintenence = compansation.. thats why i ask
a free game in a beta, even
perfect response hahahahaha
Give us 5 lucky coins
Oh look it's Tamala, according to Elouisa
snort 
I mean not every game, but again, beta
I was drinking coffee when I read that.
so u can trade them for some clay, right? ;D
i hope they don't give any compensation....totally different if the game was paid for, or a monthly subscription, or a battle pass or something.
I mean, most games that have an ETA and then can't meet it mostly do a little gift thing as a compensation gift, for time mostly cause ppl make plans and then have to change last minute, even if it is for a f2p game. Nobody expects anything fancy lol
Green apples?
games should be mostly complete in a releasable state in open-beta... and it is! I'm loving the focus on polish, and the sound design is so good
i lucked out yesterday and my coin became 5 flow wood pieces
i get what ur saying! i wasn’t trying to be rude, i just don’t think we should expect anything since the game is free. on top of people treating the devs horrible
beta...beta should mean NOTHING for downtime...even if it's DAYS of it...just my 2 cents 🙂
I made this which is higher value than tomato/potato and wheat/rice at least at lvl 12 but Idk maybe people making the guides are higher lvl and don't need the cotton
I could see something small for an unplanned maintenance after 1.0, but downtime is expected in betas
You don't pay by the minute and there is nothing lost. There is nothing to compensate you for. This is not an Asian mobile game following that model that you referenced. Maint happens - and I would rather they add content and fix games vs just release it and ignore it.
The only "compensation" I've gotten so far were the fireworks they gave us at the end of alpha.
Compensation for what? A free game and you are losing nothing but your time. Go outside, mow the lawn or something.
you can luck out more and get apple seeds in the early stages of the game, but that's like really lucky ;D
some extra seeds i could get for 10 coins yeah 
Touch grass you say?
they can come mow my lawn lol
indeed, that is the EA/activision way 😄
i rather touch my in game garden 😤
Could be a long time to get done my friend LOL
We have plenty of grass in our in-game home!
it's not a gacha game or any other game that asks you to pay to play/level up... and it's in beta. maybe go find somethign else to play or do IRL?
Zeki would like a word j/k
downtime forced me to get some photoshop stuff done, been procrastinating for months \o/
keep some for these weird weekly gift requests when Elouisa asks you if you can find her some grass
There is always the P**N to watch LOL
it was just exciting to see something other than fireworks and the lower arrowheads lol
Yeah, optimized at lv25 with star seeds means no need for cotton
Hello, I was wondering what a Shepp exactly means and what it will do when I'll chose one please ?
not in game currently digi, but they're guides of sorts
Don't forget Najuma, she likes knapweed too 🙂
gonna start keeping the fireworks to shoot for people that cant find where the flow tree is
that's actually very genius
There are|| ormuu plushies|| 😉
you get to rank 4 in relationship with an npc and ask them to be your shepp
To be honest as an alpha /beta tester of many games Palia's release has been mostly smooth and polished. If the devs are taking extra time to get it right .... Great in means they care about the game they are creating. Belive me i have seen many Crappy releases
Shep is essentially Majiri for adopted family
Like mentors ?
... and yes, you can romance your adopted family also 
Does somebody know, if there will be a Paypal or Klarna option for the Premium-Shop ?
yes
What does lvl had to do with it? Noob here
anythings better than biowares hideous 10 year tenure with SWTOR
turning that adoptive dad into a daddy-sorry i'm sorry.
they introduce you to their community or something, cuz you are an outsider
Okay thx everyone
level 25 + star seed = 100% star crops
i've seen people uploading pics of their home with photo frames of reth,kenyatta and so,where do i get them?
no word yet but it's highly requested
For gardening specifically, higher gardening level means higher chance to get star crops from your seeds. At lv25 with star seeds, it's a 100% chance
This killing me :(
Level 25 in farming? OK.
They give them to you after last romance quest
you get a picture frame of the NPC after completing their lvl4 romance quest
Isn't this only while using rare seeds?
If I hit 25 farming should I replace anything in my plot? Cotton? Potatoes?
the problem is you'll probably still need cloth
yeah, i'm running max cash return plot rotation right now and i desperately am wanting for fabric
If you still care to min-max at lv25, there are plenty to replace. Otherwise, to hell with min-max and just make it look pretty. You'll have more than enough money at that point anyway
also pickled potatoes are life
That's exactly what happened to me, and I was almost totally out of cotton.
I have a shitload stocked up tbh
gotta get that well, cuz my garden is far from the pond ;D
This wait is killing me
same
OK so you get 100 percent star crops from star seeds at 25. Makes sense.
This is why my plot layout is set up to grow everything in an efficient way. It does make a lot of money, but I also have mats for everything. I just don't get MAX money which I can live with.
speaking of the garden the durability amount the watering can loses from watering a 3x3 square makes no sense like i'm bashing it into the field to water them and not just tipping it ;D
I thought I was pretty smart and doing well. LOL I am still a toddler in this game
I came home early after taking my kid to the dentist. A maintenance window was not what I wanted to see
would you happen to have a copy of that layout? i'm pretty content with my layout (which is nonexistent but i get mats of everything), but I'd like ideas and see if this might work better for me. thank you in advance!
play the game the way you like it and relax 🙂 no use playing by doing everything META
I'm not sure where you're at with furnishings yet, probably higher than me, but fabric, silk, and glass suddenly become a lot more important as you get up there with the recipes.
I agree, i think some people just genuinely have fun doing that though haha
Hi not sure if I got this right. Any help would be great. The MM event will start every night at 6pm and go to 3am. So in real time that's only less then a half hour??
and that's super fair! I personally animation cancel while jumping with bow to never stop moving when killing Sernuk lol
correct - but they're not done with the patch yet so i imagine you'd be better off waiting until tomorrow to be sure
Same time as zekis night market
I am afraid I don't know how to link that? No idea if this link works or not. It is a copy of one of the planner tools. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pU2czjaj_EYAJYDGnMPPZIOpHhChckcbF_rtHVXYeXA/edit#gid=1295085288
I got my first blueberry plant in the ground whoot
ahhh alright thanks! i was wondering if you might have had a screenshot of or something, but no worries, thank you!
I have to learn that, I don't hunt much yet, so low level
No, but that is a good idea actually and I SHOULD just for backup.
It goes much much faster when you get standard arrows since you 1 shot all the standard sernuk
||Fed the monster yet?||
How?? Servers are down 
magic!
if you ever get to, would you mind sharing it? no pressure at all! just curious
not at the moment, but the possibilities are endless for future releases
sweet, im gona buy so much focus im gonna become the next buddha
Yeah I think that's about where I am, I am level 6 I think?? Not the worst, just really low compared to my other skills. Good to know though! I should take one evening to just go hogwild on that
also if you wanna hunt the dark brown sernuks i personally just persistence hunt them (shoot then sprint after them, wait til they calm down then shoot again)
I'm around lv23 right now for hunting. It's very fast once you get used to it -to the point that you can kill elder sernuk without them getting a chance to run away
do you have any advice for hunting the white and orange/black chapaas?
magic arrows
how many?
10 a deer
jump animation cancel on them, so you're sprinting at the same time you're shooting without stopping
2 magic arrows into it and it gets stunned
for the white ones use the magic arrows to cancel their special ability
wait can you explain how to do that?
also the bchapaas i fire my second shot at where they are burrowing
You can slow the original before it breaks, and the copies will also be slowed.
For azure chapaa... just use slow arrows, the real chapaa gets a cloud around it lol
How do I get the recipe for a cake? Sorry if this is a dumb question
you unlock it from Reth's at a certain cooking level (9 or 10 i think?)
cant answer everyone individually but thanks yall for helping o7
Level 9 and from Reth, edited cause it's 9
thank you 🙂
so if you sprint then jump then aim and shoot, and before you land right click, the jump will give you distance, and the animation cancel will let you continue running. It takes practice but it's crazy fast
Oh, maybe its level 9?
fwiw if you're doing cake parties, only the host needs to know the recipe
Yes, I am going to toss the screenshots on Imgur
sounds trippy, im gonna try it asap. so this helps you keep shooting while running?
You can kind of do the same thing while climbing and get some decent air off it.
yes exactly :). You can also animation cancel while standing, just right click after you shoot. It'll feel like you're using a rapid-fire bow lol
appreciate you!
sweet! :o youre a life saver
Here you go https://imgur.com/TlWdEXW and https://imgur.com/wMTdNaw for crops and fertilizer options.
I'll have to try learning the animation cancel, im so bad at hunting right now lol
With the mixing minigame, do you have to stop as soon as it hits the circle or does it automatically stop even though you're still holding your mouse button?
Auto stops
you can just hold the button 🙂
It auto stops
how do you get those profession coins you can get after hitting lvl10?
amazing, thank you so much!
okay thanks 🙂 I thought so but I just wanted to check. Wouldn't want to have people get mad when I join my first cake party later this week XD
leveling past 10, or doing weekly quests (see accomplishments tab after 10)
You get them with weekly achievements that you unlock after level 10
you get some right when you hit Lvl10, then you can do the weekly challenges (hotkey U) to earn more
in achievements tab you get missions and completeing gives you coins, plus i think leveling up more also gives you coins
You can also dispel then go to slows or whatever. Some people were saying they just hit it with 3 slows. I think the slow removes the copies?
Yep levelling gives you 10 more coins
I WANT TO PLAYYYYY T-T
nice! i thought itd only be from levelling up. i really want those trees and blueberries
No problem. It is not max money, but it lets me get some of everything with focus on max harvest and quality. Also weed no weeds and no water on my fruit! I set up the seeds to match the number on my hotkeybar so it helps when planting.
Get the apple and bluerry seeds from people as quest rewards and save those tokens 🙂
i havent gotten any seeds as rewards yet :"(
You need to do Level 3 quests from Badruu/Naio 🙂
||badruu||, ||zeki||, ||naio|| for it