Camera Advice

[pastel sentinel]

bout that

i got me a smal chair in a tree

wont get no tripod over there

prob the best plse i will get around here

eyy we just pased 8k msg on this thred

or forum or whatever it is caled

i can get the 200 to 500 for 750

maby negotiate to 700

is it then bether?

[misty steeple]

You should be able to get a good one for under 800

Dont buy the tamron

For almost the same price you get a much less sharp lens and worse build quality

[pastel sentinel]

Which one then

[misty steeple]

And slower

The 200-500 @pastel sentinel

Check ebay

Ik theres good ones for 700-750

The nikon 200-500 is a better lens overall

[pastel sentinel]

Hmm

[misty steeple]

Out of the tamrons, sigmas, and the nikon, the tamron is the worst overall

G1 and G2

[pastel sentinel]

But I kinda need reach for bird photogrfy

[misty steeple]

At 600 it wont be worth it

The g2 at 600 is softer than the 500 cropped in

This is 520mm(teleconverter) on full frame 16 megapixels and cropped in

The 24mp and 500mm on the d750 will be good enough

If you grab a d500, paired with the 200-500 is an awesome setup for birds

[pastel sentinel]

Hmm ok

[glad juniper]

The Astoria goodwill did me well today

[teal basalt]

@random prism what's a good EF telephoto for under 400$? Gonna switch to canon and see how it goes

[misty steeple]

Holy shit @pastel sentinel

[pastel sentinel]

BRO

I also got some insane pic

I love my island

@misty steeple

[misty steeple]

DAMN

[pastel sentinel]

Yess

[misty steeple]

Thats cool af

I have yet to see something like that

[pastel sentinel]

Yess

I did buy 200-500

[misty steeple]

Nicee

[pastel sentinel]

Have not arrived yett

Im getting it Friday I hope

[misty steeple]

Alr send me a pic of it when it arrives :))

[pastel sentinel]

Yess

[random prism]

If you can find it for under 400, the 70-300ii

4.5-5.6

https://www.mpb.com/en-us/product/canon-ef-70-300mm-f-4-5-6-is-ii-usm

Somehow out of stock

[solid fable]

W

[teal basalt]

Thanks!

[pastel sentinel]

Real

[glad juniper]

200 bucks

And it's basically brand new

[random prism]

Tape 🗿

[glad juniper]

it was one of their rentals and it basically never got used

and its wonderful

[random prism]

The little plastic window thingy break?

[glad juniper]

nope

its the peal from when it was new

scratch protection

[random prism]

Oo

Just looks like scotch tape lol

[misty steeple]

Type shit

The g2 as well

Damn good lens

[glad juniper]

all for less than the price of a good dinner

[teal basalt]

sick, was it off fb marketplace?

[glad juniper]

Nope

My local camera store

Used ofc but still

[pastel sentinel]

Yoo D500 or Z7?

[glad juniper]

definitely not the z7

assuming its actually the i not the ii ofc

[pastel sentinel]

Hmm

Sure I might consider ii

[lucid aurora]

wanna trade my 75-300 to lower tthe cost

[misty steeple]

the ii is goated ngl, but wtf were they cooking up on the first z7's autofocus 😭

[glad juniper]

poo and shit

thats what

oh speaking of sidegrades, i think i'm gonna look for a D800 and replace the 700 with that

[misty steeple]

ooo

old high res 😍 theres hella for rly good prices

I might buy a d500 tmrw after my christmas paycheck

cookin @pastel sentinel

uncropped 🗣️

[glad juniper]

yeah but its gotta be a trade in, i'm not gonna try and sell the 700 on my lonesome cause then it won't actually go anywhere

best i could do locally but idk if they do trade in

[misty steeple]

ah

noo 😦

i'd look at d800e's too and see if thats possible too

only difference is no aa filter but usually same price

[misty steeple]

thats a good deal though

[glad juniper]

yeah but i've got bills to pay

and fwiw i could get it cheaper on mpb

350-400

which is what i'd want to pay locally

[misty steeple]

ah yeah makes sense

[glad juniper]

even moreso if that means i can get rid of the 700 in the same trip

i'll call 'em tomorrow and see what they say about trade

[pastel sentinel]

This you?!?

That's sick!!!

[misty steeple]

YUHHH

Ty

[misty steeple]

d500 on da way

[glad juniper]

Called them and they sent me a gear condition form to fill out

I'll probably get a first offer tomorrow ish

Yay

[misty steeple]

W

[misty steeple]

@glad juniper got a d500 waiting for me at home YUHHH

[glad juniper]

Based

I'm still waiting on my first offer on the d700 for d800 trade lmao

[misty steeple]

[glad juniper]

I looked at one today

I kinda want one after my 7500 bins it

[misty steeple]

the customizability options look wonderful

being able to have like 3 dif buttons be able to switch to specific focus point mode when being held is gonna be hella convenient for me

maybe I should get uhs-ii cards later 💀 the cf express alone has no buffer until the forced ending, but w backup on a uhs I sd card its like 30 smth

[glad juniper]

The only reason why I wouldn't buy one is cause hopefully nikon makes a Z equiv prosumer apsc

[misty steeple]

valid

[glad juniper]

Like a z6 sized body with a slightly larger sensor

Like the a6700 26

That'd be basically perfect

[misty steeple]

a nikon equivalent of the r7 would be dope

[glad juniper]

It'd be perfect

[misty steeple]

yuhhh

[glad juniper]

first offer came in, i'd be looking at 250 bucks in trade in all told

so now the question becomes do i spend less for a "more used" body or more for a "less used" body

[misty steeple]

Kinda lowball

Ish

I take it back i didnt realize how low the d700 goes for

I mean 250 aint bad

[glad juniper]

i mean i paid 200 even for it lol

[misty steeple]

@quasi kettle took the d500 out for the first time

[glad juniper]

plus the grip at like, 45 or something

[misty steeple]

Valid

[glad juniper]

so i'm not that upset

[misty steeple]

I forgot how uncomfortable shooting like that w/o a vertical grip was

Need mine to arrive

[glad juniper]

woulda liked higher but 374 for a 35k shutter D800 is a serious deal

[misty steeple]

Id take the 374

35k shutter count is hella low

[glad juniper]

all these bits for 375

[misty steeple]

That’ll last you forever

Thats a good deal imo

[glad juniper]

the cheaper ones come with a strap tho lol

which i clearly absolutely need

100%

definitely

and ofc thats also the first offer before they look at the gear so i might be able to get a bit higher

[misty steeple]

W that shutter count id grab it then buy a strap later tbh, the neck straps are pretty dang cheap

[glad juniper]

yeah ik

i'll add the /s next time lol

[misty steeple]

cookin up

almost was too close, didnt wanna back up and risk scaring bro

we need a photography channel fr

[glad juniper]

@misty steeple

[misty steeple]

YUHHH

Lookin goood

Old dslr gang

[glad juniper]

Can't wait to go run it

[misty steeple]

lmk how it goes

juicy 36mp

[glad juniper]

I'm excited

Work depending i might go out with it tomorrow

[glad juniper]

And to think this whole setup costs less than the lens is selling for

[misty steeple]

😂

Cant believe you got such a steal 😭

[misty steeple]

W

D500 in the day time gives me 450 2.8 w/o worrying ab low light

[teal basalt]

i wanna buy one now 👀

[random prism]

https://www.facebook.com/share/1A6dMnYNG5/?mibextid=wwXIfr

@glad juniper ez money?

Nvm

Not even worth it

[misty steeple]

might be hard to find parts to repair that

idk how serious that is though 💀

[glad juniper]

The n80s are dirt cheap

And one of the last film cameras nikon made

Solid modern film cameras they are

[misty steeple]

yeah i've seen em hella cheap in good condition

[pastel sentinel]

yoo

long time no see

i am standing betwen the D500 and the Z7ii still

and i stil dont know what to chose

i like the 1.5 on the D500

but i also realy want ai bird tracking

all for wildlife photography btw

i kinda give up on the aviatoin photogrophy

and also the only reason i woud pick the D500 is the prize diferense

[misty steeple]

just a reminder the z7ii doesn't have bird eye autofocus so if you bought the z7ii I would use a dynamic spot mode

the z7ii is great but I wouldn't use the tracking for birds since it could easily put the focus point on a wing etc

I have yet to test the d500 for birds in flight

I think the z7ii would be a better long term investment though

[glad juniper]

oh it'd be a way better long term investment

[solid fable]

Z8 would be even better

[glad juniper]

fingers crossed a z8/z9ii come out soon ish

throw in the global shutter from red and call it a day

same stacked 45

problem solved

[pastel sentinel]

I kinda need bird in flight

If you look at my insta

(BOB_Photo7)

I got a sick Pic of a bird doing somtn

Z6III?

Is that good?

[glad juniper]

For what it does, yes it's great

[pastel sentinel]

What's a fear price for it used?

(Z6III)

[glad juniper]

for right now? whatever sale nikon's running

or the spring sale in a few months

[misty steeple]

yeah but thats an added 2 thousand dollars

[misty steeple]

it has amazing autofocus for birds but 24mp on full frame might not be enough for bif

depending on the lens and how close you are ofc

[misty steeple]

a z9ii followed by a z8ii with the same specs again would be generational

[glad juniper]

Oh 100%

Id probably still shop for a first gen 8 tho lol

[solid fable]

Bro that with a global 😍😍😍 Nikon would just win atp

And some better AF systems, then it’s just the best

[random prism]

https://www.facebook.com/share/1HGrLcXFYb/?mibextid=wwXIfr

@glad juniper would it even be worth it to buy this and a F to EF adapter

[glad juniper]

No it wouldn't even be worth it for F lol

Shit first gen

[random prism]

Oh lol

[misty steeple]

no

also never buy an adapter for different platforms, recipe for autofocus and iq problems

If you can save up another 200 bucks you can grab a good sigma 150-600 contemporary, which is not the best, but it is much better than both the g1 and g2

[glad juniper]

not me having a better shooting experience with the tamron g2 than either of the siggy 15-6s lmao

[solid fable]

Just shoot Nikon and get 180-600 duh

☠️

[misty steeple]

thousand dollar difference not including a z mount body

[misty steeple]

photographer not the gear moment

on paper the sigma should be better

although the sport version I've heard has sharpness issues

the 60-600 looks 😩 though, I hate the zoom rings on those lenses though

[glad juniper]

I'm just not sold on a 15-6 yet

I like the portability of the 100-400

[misty steeple]

Plus u got that 36mp you can crop in

[glad juniper]

Mighta totally impulse bought myself another lens

[glad juniper]

Yeah I can, although I do see a difference between shooting the d7500 vs the 800 and cropping

Not sure which i prefer tho

D7500

awww file limits

fuckin

hold please

ok ok

D800 w/ crop

[random prism]

https://www.facebook.com/share/1B4Us9rduX/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Where to obtain 1800$

[glad juniper]

Your job probably

Also yay Redmond

[random prism]

Yay

[random prism]

Yeah but that’s like 1.5 pay checks

[random prism]

And then an adapter

[glad juniper]

Well it is an r5

So like

[random prism]

Fair

[glad juniper]

Peak camera

[random prism]

W

[misty steeple]

type shit

[glad juniper]

mhmm

[misty steeple]

gotta test out my new go pro tmrw 😈 got a hotshoe adapter for it to do pov stuff

[random prism]

I wanna get an insta 360 mini or something like that to do POV stuff at work

Rayban meta if they were cheaper and not ugly

[misty steeple]

Caged up lil bro

[random prism]

Now buying a cage for a GoPro actually makes sense

[misty steeple]

Its too fragile

[random prism]

i wanna get something like a insta 360go for work

[misty steeple]

oo

[random prism]

pov stuffs

[misty steeple]

Type shit

I got the gopro for pov lel

[random prism]

lol

too expensive for me

[misty steeple]

I got a decent deal on it through ebay

[random prism]

nice

[misty steeple]

new backpack 🗣️ I can finally fit both bodies in the actually padded area with room to spare

[solid fable]

D4s and a 500 is a uh, interesting pairing 😂

[glad juniper]

I mean the 4s still does everything you need a pro body to do these days

[solid fable]

Oh I’m aware, I’ve just personally never understood having two cameras, let alone two that are pretty different

If imma have two cameras they’re gonna be on par

[glad juniper]

They aren't that different tho, both are upper tier nikon, both are built for speed and performance and they're all f

It's one thing to do that I'm doing and have a D7500 and a D800

Since one is prosumer kinda sports oriented and the other is professional mostly and fine arts/resolution oriented

[solid fable]

I suppose, I just don’t see why people wouldn’t just get one that does both lol

Only reason I would run 2 cameras is for different lenses at the same time, one with a 24-70, one with a 70-200, or whatever else needed

[solid fable]

I guess, I just personally wouldn’t drop money on two kinda ok cameras when I could use the money to get one good one

[glad juniper]

Oh I agree with you, the D800 could definitely do sports but it's not designed to

And the jack of all trades cameras are either too expensive for the "average" consumer or the feature set is "does it all but the bare minimum of all"

Like the d3500 could do it all

But it's not designed to do anything specific

The z8/9s are designed for sports, the Z7, fine art, z6 hybrid video and z5 was kinda entry level

There's no "do it all" camera for z, just like there's no serious do it all option for f

Best you could do rn would be a D780 probably

Just the same reason why 24-400s exist but you'd buy a 24-70, 70-200 and 180-600

Why buy 3 lenses when 1 can do most of it

[solid fable]

I’d argue the z9 and 8 are hybrids, you got everything you’d need for pretty much any type of photography whether that be sports, wildlife, or landscape. Sure the z9 isn’t “designed” for street photography, but it’s probably better at it than most other cameras. I mean what exactly makes a camera designed for sports not able to do landscapes, besides MPs, which even z7s have 45mp.

And the lens point doesn’t really make sense, the 24-400 is not an amazing lens lol, just cause it’s got the range it’s still pretty mid, plus the barrel extends so that’s just already a loss 😭

And I mean cmon, you’re comparing fixed 2.8 lenses to a variable lens that fucks you over at 85 6.3 ☠️

[glad juniper]

Well it does everything so why not get it?

Don't need 3 lenses to do the job of 1

[solid fable]

Not at all 😭

That makes no sense bruh

[glad juniper]

Same logic as why buy 2 specialized cameras when 1 middle of the road body does it all

[solid fable]

That’s completely different

[glad juniper]

Is it?

[solid fable]

Yes

You’re getting worse quality etc just cause something is in the focal range.
Getting a camera that does the job of two cameras, but better is my point

I’d much rather have one d850 over for example a d4s and a d500, both could sell for just under a used 850 price

[glad juniper]

But your buying a camera that's objectively worse for sports and performance to replace two cameras that will outperform it

The 8x0 line is fine art

Resolution over speed

[solid fable]

Yeah and people still rate the 850 as a fantastic sports camera lmao

Plus with dslrs you’re losing what 4 fps? That’s really not that much

[glad juniper]

That's a lot, you've got it good over in mirrorless land lol

[solid fable]

lol I switch around fps a lot so I know it’s a noticeable difference but I just don’t get why people get two different cameras

Like you mentioned one for landscape and fine arts, one for sports, I just don’t get why you’d spend money on two separate cameras when you can usually find one that does both jobs, and is generally better cause it’ll be newer

I mean I’d rather just get a a7iii or sm like that rather than have two cameras lol

Even a7iv are fairly cheap on the used market now

[glad juniper]

The solution isn't always "fuck it, buy a flagship" lol

Even tho I'd like it to be

It's just not reasonable for everyone

[solid fable]

That’s not my point, my point is you’re spending money on two cameras when you could use that money to buy one good one

[glad juniper]

I spent 200 bucks on my d800, what better body could I buy for that

And the 7500 was bought new in 2019

So what, 1200 bucks could get me a well loved z7 or z6?

[solid fable]

I mean an a7iii used is not a lot, and it’s a great camera, you’re with a good company, and you can easily progress from there, with getting two ‘ok’ dslrs, how does one progress 5 years down the line when they want mirrorless but feel forced to stay with what they have cause they’d have to switch lenses

[glad juniper]

And I'd still be out the cost of an ftz

[solid fable]

Well yeah but how much have you spent on every little trinket lens you’ve bought lol

[glad juniper]

Also don't use the 7iii as an example, those have shutter splody issues

[glad juniper]

So sell all the glass and start over?

And fwiw i have sold a lot of my glass

[solid fable]

Im just saying you seem to always be buying a new vintage lens for like $20-50 and that adds up fast lol

[glad juniper]

I'm down to 3 "main" lenses for f, plus a portrait and a 50mm

Sold my macro glass, sold my stupid ultrawide, sold my short telephoto

The cost to upgrade to z far outweighed the cost to get an old fx camera and a prosumer dx body

And if buying a camera to do it all is the goal, I'm still nowhere near being able to afford a z8, let alone a 7ii or 6iii

And what i could afford i wouldn't buy, a z50, upgraded tho it may be, would be a side grade at best

And a downgrade for most things

[solid fable]

Nah and I totally understand that, I’m just saying having two cameras seems almost pointless, a d7500 is pretty good I personally don’t see why you’d need a d800

And the switch to z is aids I know

[glad juniper]

Well for one, I get to actually use my fx glass at their labeled focal length lol

I also get improved low light perf, improved high iso, more resolution for stills, better battery life and marginally better ergo

I had a d700 for a while but while 12mp was enough, 12mp and trying to go spotting wasn't

So sold it as trade in for the 800

[solid fable]

Fair enough

Ngl the ergo part alone is enough ☠️

The 3xxx line Nikons suck to hold

[glad juniper]

Well yeah, it's sensor, ovf, mount and that's it lmao

Oh and non cpu lenses

That is so incredibly nice

Doesn't make sense that nikon pulled non cpu controls from their prosumer line, the d2/300 had it, the D7/100 had it but the 72/500s don't

Stupid as shit

[misty steeple]

😂😂

[misty steeple]

I shoot sports professionally and need to have two different focal ranges at the same time, plus I cant afford something like a d5, z9, or z8 rn

This combo is making me money so no complaints

D4s is a beast

i am thinking of the z9 end of summer maybe

[misty steeple]

Say I had a z9 and a 300 or 400 prime on it for field sports, if I dont have a second camera with a 70-200 or something like that i cant do anything once they get close

With the d500 obviously the 70-200 is slightly more but thats fine yk

[misty steeple]

Retired flagships

Shit id take a d3s anyday

[glad juniper]

the D5s aren't terribly expensive still

which is nice

[misty steeple]

Ye

They are going down in value for sure

But its not doing anything my d4s wont do for sports so

Maybe better low light though

[glad juniper]

bigger buffer too

and that extra 4mp

[misty steeple]

i'd rather save up for a z9 IT LOOKS SO GOOD

[solid fable]

Yeah that’s the only reason I’d assume you’d need two until maus said he had one for fine arts and one for sports that just threw me for a loop lol

I’ve been thinking of a second camera too just to have the second lens, but I just need to get officiated with my college first, still in the talks with them about their sports programs

Already got a job offer with the aerospace college, just need sports now ☠️

Which is obviously where the money comes from

[misty steeple]

nice nice

[misty steeple]

yuhhhhh

[misty steeple]

For baseball szn 🙏

[misty steeple]

Lacrosse go crazy

@glad juniper bought a 17-55 2.8 for the d500 for 157 cuz the filter ring is broken lol

As long as thats the only thing broken crazy deal

[glad juniper]

definitely one of the lenses of all time lol

kinda want one but also i don't need one but i want one

[misty steeple]

Yeah agreed

I was thinking of bidding on 24-70s but the d500 would be my wide-mid range body for a while so felt like the better option

Esp if i get another ff body a 24-70 wont touch the ff for sports for a while

Hopefully nothing wrong w it outside of the filter ring cuz crazy deal

If its dirty inside i have the tools to clean it too

It sorta looked like the zoom ring was getting loose but thats like only a 20 dollar replacement

[teal basalt]

Found a 70d + Sigma 120-400 for $315 👀

60k on the shutter tho

[misty steeple]

Thats not bad

Just be aware those apo lenses are pretty slow, but thats a good deal

Dw about the shutter count

60k is nothing

[teal basalt]

Might pick it up as a second cam

[teal basalt]

by the way, is it ok if i put a lens with fungus in the same bag as my other lenses? it won't spread right?

[misty steeple]

I wouldnt

Fungus is the one thing that will actually spread

You should get it cleaned or get tool to clean it

[glad juniper]

(It spreads really slowly and a 15 minute trip in a camera bag every week won't cause any harm over the course of ~30 years)

[misty steeple]

still better to at least kill it

don't rly need any tools to do so

[teal basalt]

what do I need to clean it?

[glad juniper]

Depends on the lens and what elements it's on or between

You can do it yourself if you buy a lens wrench and some glass removal tools

But that requires you to take the optical blocks out and probably the focus mech as well

Which means you have to recalibrate infinity when your done

Zooms suck to take apart. Primes don't

If you want you can just leave your lens in the sun for a few weeks and that will kill most of the fungus

It won't clean the fungus that's already there but it'll help kill what's living

[misty steeple]

depends where the fungus is

if it's in the front element you dont need to do that, you wont be anywhere near the focus mech

what lens is it @teal basalt

[teal basalt]

The 120-400.

[misty steeple]

ah

did u buy it yet?

cuz if u haven't I wouldn't then

the lens isn't good enough to bother with the fungus, if you do buy it btw the fungus will show up in images if not cleaned

[glad juniper]

(No it won't)

[misty steeple]

sorry I mean't it'll impact the iq

but i mean

idk if that lens is worth worrying ab fungus

[glad juniper]

If it was a 120-300 2.8 I'd still get it

[misty steeple]

ok thats completely different lmao

[glad juniper]

But the 12-4?

Ehhhh

[misty steeple]

120-300 is thousands more and a professional lens 💀

[glad juniper]

Although for 300 bucks it's not a bad deal

[misty steeple]

apo 120-400 is quite the opposite

[glad juniper]

Plus you get a 70d with it

[misty steeple]

lowkey sell the 120-400 afterwards

[glad juniper]

Or buy it and shoot it and don't really care about the fungus since you probably won't really notice a difference

[misty steeple]

depends how bad it is

💀

[glad juniper]

It'll impact the iq the same way a uv filter will impact your iq

[misty steeple]

only if its a cheap uv filter

but I don't use filters so idk

[glad juniper]

I do and I can't notice a different

[misty steeple]

😭

[glad juniper]

But yeah it really does depend on how bad the fungus is

[misty steeple]

Waiting for a response from my photo manager but might be able to attend something that would lead to me renting a 400 2.8 and probably a d5 as well

[glad juniper]

mmmm a d5

lmk how that "small" mp sensor goes

i'm still seriously considering a D5 as an upgrade later

[misty steeple]

shit i mean the d4s and it's seemingly tiny 16mp has done everything I've asked for when it comes to resolution/cropping/low light

the 20 on the d5 is surely enough, I mean for sports I have a restriction on what I'm supposed to crop for before publishing and when I'm cropping the d500 pictures it seems like a lot more room

that 4mp is honestly way bigger than it seems

[misty steeple]

I'd go for it honestly

tons of pros still rock it, rly good example of old doesn't mean bad

I'm thinking of maybe getting one after a mirrorless upgrade as a 3rd ff body

wish my d4s had better customizability though like the d5 😭

[glad juniper]

cause like on the one hand, i don't want to gimp myself out of z by getting a new dslr

[misty steeple]

thats true

[glad juniper]

d850/d5

maybe 780 if i'm lazy lol

[misty steeple]

780 price lower when

[glad juniper]

soon tm

[misty steeple]

such a cool camera though

and the d6 lurking in the corner 😔

[misty steeple]

that's all u need honestly 🙏

goat combo

[glad juniper]

plus the dual cf D5s are about the same ish price as a d850

[misty steeple]

ye

[glad juniper]

or even a z7ii

which would ungimp the z issue

[misty steeple]

fr

[misty steeple]

dual cf honestly doesnt sound bad

the buffer is more than enough and xqd is stupid expensive

[glad juniper]

mhmm

[misty steeple]

xqd prices are hella stupid though

basically the same build quality as a cfexpress type b card, same contacts, discontinued, slower, but more expensive

🗣️ 🔥

[glad juniper]

but the issue with the d850/z7ii is i really don't actually need the mp

[misty steeple]

only company that still sells them new is sony lol

[glad juniper]

it'd be nice sure but i don't need it

[misty steeple]

nah nah see

what u dont need is what u must buy 😈

u cant get away from gas

[glad juniper]

but i do have the d800 which is enough mp

mostly

[misty steeple]

[glad juniper]

god its such a nice camera

[misty steeple]

the d850 is fucking beautiful

d800 too

the d800 lowkey curvey

[glad juniper]

the only issue(s) i've got with the d800 is the read/write speeds, the fps and the buffer depth

[misty steeple]

yeah 😔

have u tried any landscape type stuff w the d800 yet or nah

[glad juniper]

eh kinda

[misty steeple]

[misty steeple]

is it handheld 😭

[glad juniper]

yeah its still conceptual

[misty steeple]

ah

[glad juniper]

i don't have the means to make it work

[misty steeple]

lowkey if u could've got that upper left corner to have trails that'd be hella cool

[glad juniper]

since i don't have a gimbal i can't rotate the camera around the axis of the lens on a tripod

[misty steeple]

😔

put ibis in d800 and do it handheld fr

[glad juniper]

i might be able to get it working proper tho

give it a few weeks or somethin lol

[misty steeple]

word

[glad juniper]

Gore I think

[misty steeple]

[glad juniper]

I feel nothing for this cam

I've got a working one already

[misty steeple]

[teal basalt]

The lad sent me a few photos he took with it, couldn't really see any signs of fungus unless he sorted it when editing

[misty steeple]

It’ll be hard to actually see the fungus if it isnt that bad

Just be aware that overtime depending on how bad it is things like contrast and sharpness will eventually slowly degrade

Ask him for a picture of the front element

[glad juniper]

i've shot glass with fungus in it and it was fine

slightly less contrast but thats a non issue

and the sharpness was horrible but thats more due to the fact that the lens wasn't that great to begin with lmao

[misty steeple]

@glad juniper 17-55 arrived, everything is working as intended, part of the filter ring is broken(i dont use filters) but the cap and hood are secure, zoom ring is a bit harder to turn midrange, lowkey crazy deal for under 200

Massive W

Only complaint I have is that the zoom ring is wayyy too close to the body for how small it is😭, especially w the battery grip on

[glad juniper]

Yay glad it works as advertised

[misty steeple]

yuh

mpb W

[glad juniper]

mpb is always a W

[misty steeple]

fr

the zoom ring is hella awkward though 😭

its so close to the mount

[glad juniper]

yeah most dx lenses are like that tho no?

[misty steeple]

lowkey u prolly right

[inner fractal]

Hello guys I need help choosing wich camera to move to im currently using a Nikon D5600 and according to ChatGPT and other photographers they would consider me going to a new camera such as z6ii or d850 But I help I’m only 14 and I don’t make much a hour and work odd jobs in the winter and I make about 14 a hour in the summer I need your opinion on what I should save for and places I could work that pay well

[teal basalt]

alright let's start here, whats your budget?

Just gonna say this now, the d5600 is a solid camera

[glad juniper]

(Invest in lenses first)

[inner fractal]

Probably like 2k

[inner fractal]

I already have my main lens sigma 150-600 unless you think there is a better option

[glad juniper]

Better is relative

[inner fractal]

What do you mean by this?

[solid fable]

Doesn’t matter, the 150-600 is a good lens

So you have 2k for a body?

[glad juniper]

Better in the sense that you could get like, a 24-70 and a 70-200 which would be "better" optically but worse for your use case

[misty steeple]

chatgpt giving you a massive jump 😭

[misty steeple]

le golden duo

[solid fable]

Yeah I’d lowkey just buy a 70-200 2.8E FL with that imo, it’s a beautiful lens, I still have it adapted to my z8

Since according to a lot of articles and blogs it’s not all that much worse than the Z mound 70-200

[glad juniper]

Yeah that's what i mean better being relative

You can get significantly better lenses but if you don't need a 70-200 or a 24-70 or an 85 1.4 or whatever then it's a worse choice

[inner fractal]

Yeah idk what it’s on about

[misty steeple]

I love me vr ii but the fl looks sweet

[misty steeple]

85 1.8g >>

Sharp boi

[inner fractal]

What do yall think on 24-70 f2.8 by sigma

For car photography and close up of planes

[solid fable]

It’s amazing

[solid fable]

Idk much about it tbh

[misty steeple]

it looks 😩

no complaints ab the vr ii though

[solid fable]

Lemme find some photos with it I’ve got, it’s quite a sharp lens

[misty steeple]

except the annoying vr sound it has

[misty steeple]

if u can get close enough for a 24-70 then just go for 15-30 or 16-35

to get the full wingspan

cars though 24-70 is a weapon

but since ur on a crop sensor look at the dx 17-55

[misty steeple]

35mm 1.8 on dx and the dc sigma 30mm 1.4 btw for cars

the sigma has a ton of chromatic but fixable but I used to use it a bit for some cars stuff since its a native aps-c lens

back in the d5600 days 🗣️

[glad juniper]

May i also rec the 24-120 /4

Stop slower but 50mm longer

Not as sharp wide open as a 24-70 but it's been a wonderful lens to edc

[misty steeple]

forgot ab that lens

the z version def overshadowed

[glad juniper]

And at portrait distances the telephoto compression more than solves the "less bokeh" issue at 4 vs 2.8

[solid fable]

I can’t even send photos cause the max mb

[glad juniper]

The 24-120 is also reasonable compact

Just make sure you get the /4 version, the red vr one is violently mid

[inner fractal]

This one it is so exspinsive new let me check mpb and fb

[solid fable]

Try KEH as well

[glad juniper]

Imo if your buying a dslr lens, there's no reason to buy it used any more

The used market is so saturated these days since everyone and their dog migrated to mirrorless

[random prism]

Damn I must be way behind on times

If my dog is using a mirror less

And I’m not

[inner fractal]

I guess I’m still in the Stone Age then

[misty steeple]

dont buy that or the 28-70

thats also the old retail price

they go for 300-500 these days but have a history of failing autofocus motors, and they aren't serviced anymore so just be aware

[glad juniper]

If you want a uw zoom, get the 12-24 2.8g

20-35 2.8 is also a good option but you'll be down to manual focus

[inner fractal]

i have heard that extreme wide angle lens can distort the car and plane up close is this true

[glad juniper]

fisheyes will, yes

[misty steeple]

the wide part of a 15-30, 14-24, 12-20, etc will too

but thats what makes the image cool @inner fractal

speaking of fisheyes that 16mm d series catching my eye

[misty steeple]

the different between that and a fisheye is the fisheye will result in a circular image or at least a much more distorted image

not just distortion

[inner fractal]

maybe i will buy a sigma 10 20 mm

[misty steeple]

eh

12-20 f4

[glad juniper]

the dx tokina 11-16 is pretty good

[misty steeple]

that too^

low price

[glad juniper]

2.8 even

[inner fractal]

so whats like the best wide angle f2.8 lens f mount

[misty steeple]

tamron 15-30 f/2.8 g1 or g2

[glad juniper]

or 14-24 2.8g

[misty steeple]

but its full frame and you're on a crop sensor so it'll defeat the purpose

15-30 is sharper but loses the 14

but u get that extra 6mm

[glad juniper]

16-35 /4

[misty steeple]

and it also has vc and the 14-24 doesnt have vr which can be good for stuff with a speedlight

[glad juniper]

there's a ton of fx uw zooms

[misty steeple]

might get if I grab a z series honestly just cuz the g1 can't ftz adapt

at least its not supposed to be able to

[inner fractal]

the 15 30 is nice

[misty steeple]

yeah

dont buy it unless you buy a full frame camera though

[inner fractal]

ok

whats the thoghts on a d810

it will be my first full frame so im not sure how they perform compared to a crop

[glad juniper]

the 810 is great

800 is great

700 is great

basically all of the nikon fx bodies are good

just don't get a D600

[inner fractal]

just buy em all maybe

see wich one i like the most

[glad juniper]

i've got an 800 rn

[inner fractal]

z6ii is what i relly want but from a d5600 thats a huge jump

and i would need a z to f adapter

[misty steeple]

first time getting my gear wet did not plan for it since it was supposed to be sunny 😭

d4s and the older 300mm unfazed by the water

[inner fractal]

Looks like he has throwing at you

[misty steeple]

mmm

[echo sigil]

Opinions on a Sony A6400?

[glad juniper]

old but serviceable

nothin wrong with it other than its currently a touch overpriced and you either have to spend a lot on lenses or be stuck with the sony e kit glass

which isn't that hot

[glad juniper]

@stable stone whats your budget

[stable stone]

i was looking at like 400 cad for the body

the 7500 isnt really possible to get in that much

[glad juniper]

whats that in freedumb bux

[stable stone]

those cost 800+ cad

[glad juniper]

300 bucks?

ish?

[stable stone]

280

lets just say 300

[glad juniper]

i'm rounding up

[stable stone]

ill probably have more money by then

oh wait

[glad juniper]

just for the sake of looking lol

[stable stone]

yeah

we could probably go higher though i need to save some money for 3d printer attachment

[glad juniper]

300 us

just for the sake of rn

[stable stone]

yes

7500s are way more expensive than i thought

[glad juniper]

fx or dx

[stable stone]

the 7200 is 300 cad+

[stable stone]

full frame or dslr?

[glad juniper]

full frame or apsc

[stable stone]

oh right i forgot fx dslrs exist

lets just do apsc

i dont want to go to mirrorless yet

[glad juniper]

what

no

[stable stone]

or those 750s

[glad juniper]

i was thinking D610

[stable stone]

500 750 etc arent those fx

[glad juniper]

or D700

[stable stone]

i like using that full frame equivalent thing when buying lenses

ive literally only bought one lens over my time of using this camera since like 2017

but recently i started looking more into it

how good is the d610 autofocus speed

assuming i use an afd lens for it

[glad juniper]

the D700 was pretty fast and thats older

[stable stone]

i also intend to do low light photography with these

is the 610 better than the 700?

[glad juniper]

yeah

the 700 is a very nice camera but it definitely has its issues

[stable stone]

i heard from someone with i think an 850 that its af speed isnt good for planespoting

[glad juniper]

which is a lie, yes

[stable stone]

oh wow the 610 is cheaper than the 7500 used

[glad juniper]

yep

[stable stone]

are these Dxxx cameras all full frame?

[glad juniper]

most of them

the D6X0, D7X0 and D8X0 are full frame

the D200/300/500 are apsc

but functionally pro apsc

[stable stone]

ah

wait

[glad juniper]

the first 2 DX cams are apsc

[stable stone]

can i use afd lenses on full frame cameras?

[glad juniper]

D3-6 are full frame

[glad juniper]

af-d came about before digital cameras lol

yes it'll work

[stable stone]

oooooo

those afd lenses are super cheap to buy

[glad juniper]

they are

[glad juniper]

yeah had it

good lens

soft wide open but to be expected

[stable stone]

i see

what lenses would you recommend

i was thinking a 70-200mm 2.8, and some other versatile lens

i already have a 50mm f/1.8

[glad juniper]

that lens on a D700

Stopped down ofc but it was pretty sharp

[misty steeple]

legendary

[stable stone]

zamn'

using that stock 55-300mm nikkor (i borrowed one thats in good condition for my trip) i got some nice shots

theres a bit of editing

unedited

[stable stone]

@glad juniper the what other cameras would you recommend

[glad juniper]

most of them

really only skip the D600 and the D1

[stable stone]

d1 was probably the first dslr they made right

whats up with the d600 though?

[glad juniper]

bad shutter

[stable stone]

it can go 💥 ?

[glad juniper]

nah it throws the lube oil onto the sensor

and you have to basically clean it every few months

[stable stone]

wtf

doesnt sound fun

im adding the D610 to my list

[glad juniper]

and the issue with the D1 is that you can't actually find the battery anymore

and its hard to keep running

the D2 has a more "modern" battery

[stable stone]

what dx camera would you recommend

[glad juniper]

all of them but the D600 really

[stable stone]

wait isnt dx apsc

and fx is full frame

[glad juniper]

the 700 and 800 are fine but lacking a touch in some areas

oh yeah

oops

[stable stone]

lol

[glad juniper]

the 750 is good, the 780 is great

810 is pretty good, the 850 is great

700 is fine but only 12mp

and the 800 is fine but the buffer isn't built for action

the d3/4 are also solid pics if a bit expensive

ivan88 runs a d4

[stable stone]

i think ill probably do 610 if i get

if i want dx id snatch 7500 or 7200

[glad juniper]

@misty steeple https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-z5ii-initial-review-entry-level-full-frame

its never been more joever for my wallet lmao

[misty steeple]

i saw

[misty steeple]

RESIST THE URGE

[glad juniper]

i know

i am

[misty steeple]

gas gas gas

[glad juniper]

its called "i'm waiting for the spring sale next year to get it at 200 bucks off"

like

[misty steeple]

😭

and then one day ur just gonna buy it like the day before the sale cuz yes

[glad juniper]

there's nothing in the enthusist mirrorless market rn that could match that for 1500

the r8 only wins on msrp

[misty steeple]

reee

[glad juniper]

god and that expeed

z8/9 af perf

but not in a gimped zf body or in the z50ii

and its got a touch of the 6iii video specs so its not gonna suck if i want to shoot video on it

10 bit n raw at 4k 30 full width?

yes please

[misty steeple]

dont mention those 2

before i open up b&h again

[glad juniper]

see i only look at the prices direct from nikon lmao

[misty steeple]

man what i would do with like a million bucks

[glad juniper]

makes it less tempting somehow

also yay we get the 3000 nits evf

can't wait to go blind

[misty steeple]

the brighter the better

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[glad juniper]

ngl i'm kinda tempted to sell all my shit and start fresh

[misty steeple]

[glad juniper]

i'm not that stupid but i've probably got about 1200 bucks of gear lying about that i could sell and be well on my way to a 5ii

[stable stone]

Wew

[misty steeple]

@glad juniper will be renting a d5 and the 400 2.8 fl for saturday 🥳

Photographing 3 high school baseball games at an mlb stadium

[misty steeple]

Alr changed my mind ima save some money and go just z9 and use the cropping power

[glad juniper]

Based

[misty steeple]

frfr

1.4x and an ftz gonna look goofy

[glad juniper]

alternatively

have you considered way too much money for native

[misty steeple]

yeah nah

the point was to save money 😭

why does that lens look so good though

[glad juniper]

there's also the 200-400 /4

which isn't that expensive

or 120-300 2.8

[misty steeple]

i alr have a 300 2.8 no need for the 120

i'ma be rolling z9 with the 300 and a 1.4 and 70-200 on the d4s yk

if i ever get a 400 to own prolly like late winter i'm prob gonna get the fl version just cause of price

[glad juniper]

wher 500 pf 😎

[misty steeple]

and the 200-400 is worse in everything compared my 300

[misty steeple]

giv money

🙏

[glad juniper]

1500 bucks

used

[misty steeple]

🙏

[glad juniper]

less if you want to play the ebay game

[misty steeple]

i'ma prioritize the sports stuff

500 5.6 is chill tho

[glad juniper]

https://usedphotopro.com/nikon-nikkor-af-s-500mm-f56-e-pf-ed-vr-lens-una-06-9800-5-214203-caafe045?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwktO_BhBrEiwAV70jXiiK-mU_pKXuBTeMmZvrrokEbuh_yJh81C3hyDjUxP37gSVpU5_4DRoCdJYQAvD_BwE

or 1300 with a busted filter ring

[misty steeple]

500 is too tight for sports

unless ur getting like outfielders

[glad juniper]

i am still considering grabbing a 300 pf when they get cheap and running around with a real cheap wildlife kit

[misty steeple]

ooo

[glad juniper]

1.4x tc and call it a day

[misty steeple]

[glad juniper]

its pretty tempting ngl

but i don't shoot enough wildlife to justify the cost

and plus if i ever actually pull the trigger on a 200-500 i'll be set

[misty steeple]

ye

[glad juniper]

and in other news i've all but committed to the z5ii as my jump to z

[glad juniper]

Mmmmm

No 5?

[misty steeple]

Nah

[glad juniper]

Shame

[misty steeple]

Fuck thats good

Got like 100 of those

Much better than trying it during day games, the lights make it cool

[misty steeple]

glad I didn't rent anything, would've been a waste 😂 300 + 1.4 got it done

[glad juniper]

There's a 300 2.8 for sale locally for a good price

Busted VR but otherwise functional

Kinda want ngl

[misty steeple]

how much?

just pretend its one of the non vr models 🙂

[glad juniper]

500 bucks obo

[misty steeple]

shit

and nothing else wrong w it?

[misty steeple]

hmmm

[misty steeple]

i'd say just turn off the vr, I dont rly use it anyways and you prolly won't pan with a heavy lens like that

only concern I have is when he says af is somewhat loud cause mine is really quiet

but if theres no problems w the glass and the af speed I'd say go for it

awesome lens

it produces amazing images

:with a teleconverter

[glad juniper]

The issue is that I don't have 500 bucks sitting around

Tho it's very tempting, tax returns pending

And I'm getting an increase in hours over the next year or so

[misty steeple]

😭

[glad juniper]

Maybe if it's still for sale in 2-3 months I'll consider

[misty steeple]

i mean its kind of a lens you should only consider if you really need it

r u planning on doing any kind of sports/action or wildlife?

[glad juniper]

Wildlife yes at some point

I don't have the time for it rn

[glad juniper]

@stable stone

the G2

[stable stone]

Damn

What body?

[glad juniper]

great lens even tho its softer on paper than the siggies

[stable stone]

what body did you pair it up with

[glad juniper]

D7500

[stable stone]

Ah

[misty steeple]

That is a sick angle

[glad juniper]

@random prism what's the film shop in where again

Salem or ewwgene

[random prism]

Eugene

Dot Dotson

Fuck shutter bug

[glad juniper]

Hmmm

That's reasonable

[random prism]

Dots having 3rd party glass sale rn I think

Film

[random prism]

Shutter bug is always rude to me

[glad juniper]

Whats the dev costs like

[random prism]

Uhhh

Hold on

I think it was 9

https://irp.cdn-website.com/3b46c5fc/files/uploaded/Price_brochure_03.13.25_CURRENT.pdf

i think this is current

yeah 9$ for D/O

[glad juniper]

Oooo that's pretty good

I'll keep that in mind

[random prism]

u gonna be in oreogon soon

[glad juniper]

Depends on how soon soon is

I'm planning on moving back to Oregon next summer

But not back to the east side, we're heading to corvallis

So I'm scouting out film shops a year in advance

[random prism]

oh fun

i mean theres always PDX stuff

lowk depending on how things go in the coming years i maybe in corvallis or eug

medford just not it tbh

[glad juniper]

I'll definitely be doing mfr for tanker work

Eug for ducks charters probably?

And pdx for etc etc etc

[random prism]

good luck spotting EUG 😓

beavs also fly out of EUG

https://maps.app.goo.gl/EnFEz9FDrDv3c3YJ7

spots in MFR

and mayeb eug?

whoa people have added to the list too

[glad juniper]

Not me about to throw 4-5 spots down for lgd lol

[random prism]

lmao

[glad juniper]

I can also do BKE and BOI

[random prism]

dubs

i wanna spot BOI at some point

YVR still at the top of the list tho

[glad juniper]

Boi is such a shit airport to spot at lmao

At least short term

If you stay there for like 3 weeks something interesting flies in

[random prism]

yeah that makes sense

i do wanna go to madras when they are flying war birds

[stable stone]

if you come lmk fr

the boeing 727 sitting at abbotsford airport was bought out by somebody and its actually going to be flown out of there

restoration of it will begin when possible and the hunt for 727 pilots is currently on

[glad juniper]

I gotta do yvr too

[glad juniper]

i lied, i'm still on the fence

cause evf lag and battery life etc etc etc

alternatives rn are D5 or way splurge for a D6

a 6 is still like 3-4k tho

and for that price i'm getting a z8 lmao

but the 5 would borderline outperform the z5ii in most catagories except for stupid high iso and mp count

[misty steeple]

nahh dont get a d6

most not worth it camera out there 😭

you can pretty much get a used z9 or refurbished z8/used z8 for it's used price

and something like a d6 you should only invest in if you make it your living yk

15-30 g1 in the big 25

[glad juniper]

*new

Not that it's a serious option but it's technically an option

I've been writing pros and cons for the past few days lmao

[misty steeple]

💀

Ig but yeah I think a d6 would be a waste of money outside of making it a profession, you can do so much more with a z8 or z9 for cheaper or the same price

Not rly a good reason considering the price to get a d6 over a d5 unless you really need the wifi capabilities, which you don’t need unless you need to be transmitting on the go

[glad juniper]

yeah thats true

[misty steeple]

[glad juniper]

although the d5 is a serious option rn

[misty steeple]

Dont forget ab le d850 too

Yeah d5 is valid

[glad juniper]

yeah but i don't need the res

i've got 36 in the d800 and those files are a lot

[misty steeple]

D6 is rly just a faster d5 with good wifi

Ig the af is “better”

The customizable zones is cool but then just get a z8 for that price yk

[glad juniper]

yeah

[misty steeple]

[glad juniper]

like i honestly can't justify the 5ii when the d5 is right there but also why d5 when 5ii is right there lmao

[misty steeple]

Myself I have plans for a z9 this summer and then a d5 type of camera end of winter but I’m trying to get into shooting pro sports so ye

[glad juniper]

see you can justify it lmao

[misty steeple]

😂

[misty steeple]

How much is the z5ii gonna go for

[glad juniper]

1700 new

[misty steeple]

mmmm

Id say go for that

Fits your needs more I think

[glad juniper]

i'm worried about evf issues/lag and battery life

the d5 solves that

[misty steeple]

😭

The d5 has a great sensor too

[glad juniper]

yeah exactly

[misty steeple]

I mean you can get a d5 for cheaper I think right

[glad juniper]

the dr is a touch limited but thats fine

[glad juniper]

14-1600 for dual CF, dual xqd for 17-19 ish

[misty steeple]

Ah

[glad juniper]

and i wouldn't have to deal with an adapter

[misty steeple]

Idk 😭

I saw the evf lag in a video tho

Would drive me nuts

Dslr blackout>>skipping frames

[glad juniper]

i'll probably see if i can rent a 5ii and an adapter and fuck around with it for a few days

[misty steeple]

Valid

Wb a z6ii? Still goes strong

Not as fast but still