Buff Granters

[queen pewter]

Buff Frost Granter , Snow Granter , Rain Granters , (+ xp booster Pets) they are totally useless since it happens like once every hour which doesnt change anything really ~7% chance is just way to low its way better to just wait for snow or rain and use mutation boosters and those are way less rare to get than granters

[uneven pulsar]

well they can grant the mutation while the crop is still growing (weather cant do that) so they are amazing for like pods that takes 36h to grow
frost grant (6%) should proc arond 3.6 times per hour, if u are getting only one proc per hour u are super unlucky or your pets are like lvl 50

also why xp booster pets useless?
example: amount of hours needed to level up a legendary pet:
without xp booster: 100h
with one lvl 80 peacock: 40h
with 2 level 80 peacocks: 25h

[queen pewter]

yea but without using the boosters you can level 3 pets at once which gets you almost same result i feel like

[uneven pulsar]

it takes longer,
3 pet without xp booster = 100h
1 pet + 2 booster = 25h * 3 (pets) = 75h
75h < 100h

if u only have to level up 2 pets is best to :
2 pets + 1 booster = 40h
rather than 1 pet + 2 xpbooster = 25h * 2 = 50h

[uneven pulsar]

also this can backfire:
lets say u want to level up 3 squirrel: max level are 94 90 86
if starting level them all up togethere
arounf the 50h mark u hatch some other legendary eggs and u find a lvl 100 squirrel.
u trash the max 86 and u just lost a spot and 50h of grind

I usually level up 2 pets at the same time (so one xp booster only) when im sure I wont find a better or its hard to get it
like last week I leveled up 2 capy together (one level 100 so impossible to get something better anf the other 94 so still pretty high)

[zinc flame]

you appreciate all these pets more when you're end game

it takes 144 hours to level a myth pet without boosters

[uneven pulsar]

and here I used lvl 80 peacock so the lowest level u can get
qith 2 lvl 100 peacock it takes like 17 h to max a legendary pet

[queen pewter]

idk eggs just feel like scam and 2 leevel 100 peacocks is like 200bil invest i would guess if not way more but yea maybe eggs are worth only after you get your first couple binders bc i opened almost 100 legendary and 100 snow eggs and it was biggest money waste ever

[uneven pulsar]

what pets are u using while hatching eggs?

[queen pewter]

3 mutation boost 2 but they never procc 🙁 and idk if its the best

[uneven pulsar]

use 3 max strenght boost pet (pig/goats) so u will easily get a lot of lvl 100 pets
pet mutation boost pets are useful if u want to complete the journal and u missing only rainbow/golds
(double hatch is useless in any case)

its better to hatch a high level natural rainbow than a lot of low level rainbows

[abstract swan]

why is double hatch useless?

[uneven pulsar]

if u wants high level pets the best is 3 goats
if u want rainbow pets the best is 3 squirrel
double hatch 3% is too low to be useful ( if it had like 10% proc rae it would be better than squirrel but its not the case)

[abstract swan]

I was in the middle of writing out my calculations comparing the probabilities of each pet team, and I realised that I didn't have them quite right. I remember asking someone else about this in #discuss who reckoned Double Hatch is better, notably for higher-tier eggs. Perhaps I misinterpreted that conversation, but regardless, I've now worked out that the chance to hatch a rainbow pet is 0.10883% for 3 max-strength turkeys, but 0.13% for 3 max-strength squirrels. Does that sound about right?

[uneven pulsar]

exactly, and since the base chance for a natural rainbow is 0.1% (without any boost) u see that 0.109 (with turkeys) doesnt add literally anything worth going for.

[uneven pulsar]

I dont understand the "for higher tier eggs": it works the same for every tier. I guess what they were trying to say was that since u can hatch 2 mythical from a single mythical egg it means u can get more mythical abilities (from a single egg). Still I prefer having a single high level Mythical rather than 2 low level mythicals

Edit: also mythical eggs are not very rare anymore (average is 1 every 2-3 days)

[abstract swan]

yeah I guess it was just that higher-tier eggs offer more value, of course, so the chance for getting two of them is more attractive than the chance of getting two common eggs, for example.

but I see what you're saying

[uneven pulsar]

I would say the opposite tho c hatching 2 low level mythical and wanting to stick with them is kinda bad as it take a lot to level up a mythical. At this point I dont even waste time on myth pets that have max level lower than 90.

[abstract swan]

valid take

[uneven pulsar]

even if they give me a slight better proc rate to the pets I own

[abstract swan]

something I've just thought about, is it possible for the Double Hatch ability to proc multiple times if you have multiple turkeys, so theoretically it could proc 3 times for 3 turkeys, so then you'd get 4 mythical eggs in total from hatching 1 mythical egg?

[uneven pulsar]

yeah

would be a 0.0027% chance but yes

[abstract swan]

yeah I guess that doesn't increase the overall chance for a rainbow pet per hatch much

I guess I'll swap out my turkey for a squirrel then lmao

[uneven pulsar]

yeah if they buff it to a 10% then squirrel are useless maybe even with a 7%-8% they can be worth but idk

[uneven pulsar]

yeah if you are aiming for just rainbow go triple squirrel

[abstract swan]

for the purpose of getting a rainbow yeah, but then Double Hatch would fall into the niche of trying to get a particular ability you want

[uneven pulsar]

I would say use goat on legendary eggs if u havent high level squirrel yet

[abstract swan]

the squirrels i have are 81, 92, and 94, so not terrible

[uneven pulsar]

well the 81 kinda low but yeah

[abstract swan]

well yeah lmao

tbf I also throw a max strength pet into my hatching team

so might just have that, plus the two higher squirrels

[uneven pulsar]

are u looking for rainbow for journal purposes or for high level rainbow pets ?

[abstract swan]

i suppose both, I have 3 rainbows but 2 are level 80 and the other is 98 but it's a crop eating worm

[uneven pulsar]

mm then I suggest to go just for high level natural rainbow with goats and pigs and just spam hatching common and uncommon eggs

[uneven pulsar]

well crop eater is still good with all the new granter that can lock crop while they are growing, u need to be more careful but is still amazing

[abstract swan]

yeah true

cheers for the advice