Support emilissux

[cunning ridge]

<@&872407642302197760>

Welcome to your Support Thread

Please check if your using the latest Skytils version at #Releases then check #Faq to see if your issue is maybe there, support will come soon.

If you crash do the *crash command in Discord and follow the instructions.

[night marlin]

This can be seen by the U in the top left corner

These are my mods used, on chat triggers I have soopy, nwjnaddons and neohider

[ebon kernel]

chunk updates
try turning on lazy chunk loading in video settings

[night marlin]

It did not fix it

This is with 3 render distance btw

Crazy how is unloads 470 chunks

[ebon kernel]

honestly not a clue then
never had this as an issue
you can try removing mods half at a time until you find the issue

[night marlin]

Yeah I removed soopy and ct cause i remember having fps issues with them before, but this time it didn't help

[night marlin]

It seems to be a problem with optifine itself, or not? I ran the game with ONLY optifine and it still was laggy, removed it and the lag stopped. I tried running it with all the other mods, but without optifine and it starts lagging again

[ebon kernel]

config issue then?

[night marlin]

What do you mean by config issue?

Hm, I decided to try putting my mc on 24 gb ram (used 8gb before, and I've tried 4gb before)

Ran smooth on vanilla, runs horribly with optifine

4gb ram optifine only btw

4gb ram vanilla mc

[naive verge]

Update optifine, neu, patcher

[night marlin]

Trying to update optifine

[naive verge]

You can also limit chunk updates in patcher

[night marlin]

I think I remember trying the M5 of optifine before like 2 years ago or something and that lagged for me so I downgraded and it worked

[night marlin]

I did, but something bypassed it

[naive verge]

Tey the prerelease

[night marlin]

Pre release?

Updating optifine did nothing

[naive verge]

Yeah of optifine

[night marlin]

Where do I find the pre release?

[naive verge]

On their website

[night marlin]

That version did nothing either

[ebon kernel]

patcher -> disable optimised world swapping
see if that helps

[night marlin]

My game has just generally gotten worse after all this testing

[night marlin]

Didn't help

[naive verge]

#1000668715953696838 message

[fiery reef]

Spark is a Minecraft mod designed to identify the root causes of performance issues.
It provides logs that developers can use to fix bugs. To use Spark, follow these steps:

1. Download and install [Spark](https://jitpack.io/com/github/romangraef/spark/spark-forge189/bde4ce2ff/spark-forge189-bde4ce2ff-mod.jar).
2. Start the logging session by using the command /sparkc profiler start.
3. Engage in activities within Minecraft that cause freezing, lag, or other performance issues.
4. Stop the logging session with the command `/sparkc profiler stop".
5. Share the link from the chat in the #support channel.

[night marlin]

I'm not even in skyhanni server hold up 💀

[naive verge]

No need to join

They just have the command

Just follow the steps and share the link here

[night marlin]

Testing it out right now

Genuinelly unplayable

https://spark.lucko.me/Vt9pXnFBI2

800 CHUNKS?!?!?!

WHAT

My chunks counter changes based on what block I look at though?

[naive verge]

Can you try without chattriggers

[night marlin]

Isn't 8 render distance only supposed to load in 64 chunks?

[ebon kernel]

256

[night marlin]

Unload or drag out of folder?

[naive verge]

Drag out folder

[ebon kernel]

I mean
something is causing java to run a garbage collection nearly every second
which I don't think is normal, and because of how minecraft works can cause severe lag

[naive verge]

Also just use 4GB of ram for mc not 8

[night marlin]

oops

Wrong keyboard

But I don't think chunks should load it based on where I'm looking

Could it be something with the culling bullshit?

https://spark.lucko.me/vA4rincO2E

[night marlin]

Nothing changed, I just tried 4gb, 8gb and 24gb

I ran forge, no mods, 24gb ram and it was stuck on 240fps (the limit I set on)

[naive verge]

It's so the GC doesn't go crazy

[night marlin]

GC?

[ebon kernel]

garbage collection
frees up memory

[night marlin]

I see

[ebon kernel]

and the gc stuff shouldn't be like that

[night marlin]

Could it be disk actually?

I did recently download a big game which filled it up quite high

I feel like ever since then my game went doodoo

[naive verge]

If you can easily get some more space you should

[night marlin]

I can probably delete some games I stopped playing or mode them over to my HDD

Oh yeah, mc is on SSD if that does helps the case

[ebon kernel]

ssd should be fine
do you know where your virtual memory is?
shouldn't be an issue

[night marlin]

Look at the chunks loaded btw

[night marlin]

I don't know where my Vram is, no

Is it the gpu memory?

[ebon kernel]

no
it's whatever bit of storage you have partitioned off to use besides ram
hdd is just slower than ssd, but shouldn't be an issue as you have plenty of ram

[night marlin]

I don't know how to check that

[ebon kernel]

don't worry about, shouldn't be an issue

*it

[night marlin]

Alright

[ebon kernel]

actually

try foamfix

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/foamfix-optimization-mod/files/all?page=1&pageSize=20

[night marlin]

I downloaded it

Anything specific I need to do with it?

Chunks are still the same

[ebon kernel]

hmm
do you know what might be overriding optifine's chunk update limit?

[night marlin]

No clue

Fuck I keep thinking I'm on qwerty 💀

[ebon kernel]

dvorak?

[night marlin]

The only optimization mod I should have other than optifine is patcher

Nah, colemak

[ebon kernel]

patcher has some chunk update stuff
try disabling them

if all else fails, clean reinstall might do the trick

[night marlin]

Uhm

1.2k chunks

[ebon kernel]

isn't c entities?

[night marlin]

Why is my game just imploding on itself everytime I restart it

No

E is entities

C is loaded chunks

And U is unloaded chunks

[ebon kernel]

hm
isn't u chunk updates, including unloading
I don't know what would cause your game to load 1.2k chunks tho

[night marlin]

I also get a long freeze whenever I join other islands now too

I swear everytime I restart this game it becomes worse and worse

Maybe if I restart it again it'll go up to 2k chunks 😆

Hm?

[ebon kernel]

that's patcher
re-enable optimised world swapping if you want tk get rid of that

[night marlin]

6 minecraft instances running at once?

[ebon kernel]

uh
task kill of it and try again?

[night marlin]

They're re-opening whenever I kill them

[ebon kernel]

task kill the whole thing?

[night marlin]

Just did

[ebon kernel]

and it came back?

[night marlin]

Hm

Just the minecraft launcher itself

[ebon kernel]

there's a setting iirc in the launcher
keep running after launching or something

[night marlin]

Elaborate?

[ebon kernel]

idk
I don't use the default launcher any more

[night marlin]

Wdym?

You use a different launcher?

Well, I fixed the issue with the launcher

But the game is still broken

Enabling the world swapping optimization thingy did half the chunks loaded

In other words doubled/tripled the fps from previous ss

Did I fix it?

It's still loading 400 chunks, but my fps is 240

I think I did

I haven't played this game so smooth since like a month ago

I turned anisotropic filtering from 16 to off and game just went from 30fps to 240

I did a quick test with spark and these were the results this time

https://spark.lucko.me/UXrhhPZfMI

I'd still like to fix the hundreds of chunks loading/unloading whenever I move my mouse