🧠｜serious-chat

[summer sphinx]

sorry bro idk u

[main zephyr]

Antonia

[summer sphinx]

wat

[summer sphinx]

who

[main zephyr]

You said cumpleanos

[plain ruin]

We should ban him bro

[summer sphinx]

feliz?

[plain ruin]

That was me

[main zephyr]

Yes

[main zephyr]

Oh

[summer sphinx]

what does cumpleanos mean?

[main zephyr]

Birthday

[summer sphinx]

no it was me

[summer sphinx]

wtf i thought that was ur last name

[main zephyr]

You're confusing me

[summer sphinx]

what does feliz mean then

[main zephyr]

Happy

[summer sphinx]

no fucking way bro 😭

[summer sphinx]

i thought ur name was feliz cumpleanos

[main zephyr]

😭 😭 😭 whaaaaaaat

[summer sphinx]

cuz of that cake pic

u sent once

[main zephyr]

Why would I write my name on my cake

[summer sphinx]

that's what we do

aight bro this chat isn't for this sunshine and rainbows

only politics here

[main zephyr]

My birthday is after Hitler and before Lenin

[plain ruin]

You're Hitnin

[main zephyr]

Pikmin

[plain ruin]

Lentler

[main zephyr]

That sounds better

[plain ruin]

I wished your brother happy birthday did you tell him

[main zephyr]

When

[plain ruin]

Last June

[main zephyr]

I don't remember

[plain ruin]

Wow

[main zephyr]

I don't even remember what he did for his birthday

[plain ruin]

I remember

They made a cake for you and one for him because you didn't like his cake because you're evil

[main zephyr]

😺

[plain ruin]

See I knew it

[slender coral]

https://i-am-not-a-number-palestine.github.io/?fbclid=IwVERTSARAxGxleHRuA2FlbQIxMABzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAwzNTA2ODU1MzE3MjgAAR5fKH7JvMLltIDzIp07h7c-tsifBfoiuw1BPlvnI1lbU-4Yqoh-MoyJJT76ZQ_aem_dsPfspTQDVRpRMMnmNRZrQ

[harsh pasture]

SS

[wispy sky]

Why don't you all protest for Christians in Nigeria?

People think that gaza is the only genocide that's happening rn

It is done by a terrorist organisation with core islamic beliefs

Expose them ...or protest against them same as like this

[sharp light]

Hyy

[crystal kayak]

@turbid dome how tf did Iran let the US rescue a pilot in their own land.

[high rapids]

They shot 2 x 100Million planes down (Without the fighter jet)

[turbid dome]

US pilot probably had something on him to broadcast his location to the Americans

[harsh pasture]

That's a probability

[prisma cipher]

If they take pilot it will be epic fail for Trump. Even theoretically he can't speak he is winning if they got him.

[crystal kayak]

And the US still entered their land and rescued a pilot It hurts

[high rapids]

that´s true

[prisma cipher]

Why?

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/رهبر-آقا-رهبری-خامنه-ای-فرمانده-کل-قوا-gif-16371073303613428780

[crystal kayak]

I am mad at the ayatollah,trump was right he is gay.Now I have to watch trump brag about it

[turbid dome]

LMAO

[prisma cipher]

Us is strong, but main thing here. I remember Trump told they can free fly over Iran, doubt they will continue free flying after that incident.

[crystal kayak]

I would have made a better ayatollah,I wouldn't let sh** like that slide

[prisma cipher]

Did you notice we forget about Israel, where is Israel? Those beaches are chilling while involve Trump in bulshiet. Israel get minimum possible damage.

[crystal kayak]

Israel isn't dumb,why risk your people they have the US to do it for them

[river token]

He used a locator beacon which works like distress signal, CIA's drones tracked him down and they used special aircrafts to carry troops to rescue him. They even ran deceptive tactics to distract Iranian military that were on the pilot's tail.

[prisma cipher]

Yea they found one Dumbo. Big strong and stupid

[river token]

From Wall Street Journal/Reuters and YouTube videos so take it as you will.

[crystal kayak]

But I heard there was an intense fire fight before the pilot was extracted.

Maybe the distraction didn't work.

[river token]

US created a safe bubble around the rescue site. So they attacked Iranian military close around the pilot's location.

There are reports there were some clashes with US troops that were carried in against Iranian military but it wasn't something major.

[slender coral]

The thing that makes Palestine often more relevant is that it's a case where the war criminals are enjoy almost total impunity.
Ukraine too is a case where there has been war crimes and atrocities, but Russia got strong backlash as a response to its aggression in contrast to how supported Israel is despite its decades of occupation of Palestine, apartheid system, and war crimes.
Such things as atrocities aren't strange in our world unfortunately, but in the case of Israel and Palestine we see them happening in extreme level and with impunity to.

[crystal kayak]

Yeah,the one's who will sacrifice their children for Israel

[river token]

To piggyback off of this, Palestine and Israel struggle dates almost 7 decades back now unlike Ukraine-Russia issues which are fairly recent.

Muslim solidarity does help but it's weirdly prominent how european countries huddle with Ukraine but struggle to have the same human courtesy for arab life.

[crystal kayak]

Disappointing from Iran, fair play to the orange man.

[fresh flower]

Huh

Muslim solidarity? Where

[turbid dome]

Also, protesting is about changing gov policy. US policy towards Palestine is to help Israel commit genocide. US policy towards Nigeria is airstrikes

If people want a protest in favor of government policy it’s literally just virtue signaling and a pro regime rally lol

[crystal kayak]

??

[fresh flower]

European countries have done more for Palestine than the combined Islamic ummah

[crystal kayak]

Islamic ummah or the the gulf countries

[fresh flower]

Both, there's been nothing done besides Iran

At best their efforts amount to "Erm plz stop"

[river token]

Not so much from the muslim country governments but from the people to bring attention to the issue.

[river token]

The comparison was for attention, since the original point of contention was why do people focus on gaza than genocides in sudan, congo and nigeria.

[fresh flower]

Jews have misled people into believing that they're white, so their woes and tribulations are more news-worthy than black people

Black lives aren't as important in news

[crystal kayak]

Both?? the only thing European countries contributed is arming israel.Plus what do you want us to do, people are already bringing attention and running charities to help them.The only thing I agree with is that the gulf states did nothing

[crystal kayak]

Because all the countries you mentioned are in Africa

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/el-condor-pasa-uma-musume-dance-horse-girl-anime-gif-5685119691744471778

[pseudo flume]

I 100% agree with zazu

[river token]

Islamophobia does contribute a lot into this narrative. Strange how recent "Muslim migrants are taking over" and "Sharia law will take over Britain/NYC" media narrative was algorithmically pushed out so heavily since the war started. Many white christians and hindus fall into this propaganda.

And racial discrimination also plays a huge role into this.

[river token]

I agree, Africa is often overlooked because of racial discrimination...

I am writing a paper on prospects of development in Africa and I have this section where I want to write how historical the exploitation and oppression and racial discrimination is towards Africans. And even now, they've gained independence but not economic control over their own resources and are now an open source of exploitation worldwide than just Europe.

Countries like China, UK, US, Canada and UAE exploit Africa.

The Sudanese war against RSF is an example of this; UAE funds RSF to have control over Sudanese gold. They build their whole economy around gold and oil but can't even give enough grace to Sudanese civilians to let them live in peace.

[woven quail]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-meme-stan-twt-funny-buckspendragon-angel-gif-17282494645428312013

[crystal kayak]

In our local mosque in my area they often make Dua for Palestin not once have i heard them pray for Sudan or congo.I was hoping Iran would have bombed UAE to the ground

[fresh flower]

If there now was an Islamic "Ummah" they'd do what the EU did to Russia, cut ties, sanction, ban etc. EU has done that for illegal Israeli settlers, meanwhile the most that any Islamic country, besides Iran, has done is just a condemnation

Matter of fact most Islamic countries are actively helping Israel

[crystal kayak]

I don't know why my people love to worship,the whites, Chinese and Arabs, instead of loving and supporting each other

[fresh flower]

It's Jew propaganda, they know that they can't clean up the image of a genocide so they give the people another enemy to focus on, that's why they've invested heavily in internet traffic and ads

[turbid dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0vI3fVJSgE

flat earthers coping rn

[river token]

I guess it's because the people are also trend followers and not so much involved into humanitarian aids or genocides happening around the world deeply.

They don't even know about Sudan and Congo because there's so much less news coverage around it. It's an african country and the genocide perpetrator is UAE which is an Arab Muslim country. People just kind of assume, "Arabs are the ideal Muslims" when it's not true.

Dubai single handedly controls Sudan's gold and estimates suggest 50% or more is smuggled out by the RSF to UAE so it doesn't even benefit the government or the people of Sudan.

[crystal kayak]

Didn't you read my message,I agreed that the gulf countries are supporting Israel but as for the Muslim ummah they are trying their best with what God has given them, raising charity and bringing awareness to what is happening there.But as for Eu their supplied the weapons that were used to unalive little kids and old people.

[uncut tiger]

Your "best" is their minimum

[turbid dome]

EU: we sanctioned like 2 guys, time to send a bajillion weapons to the IDF

Germany and Italy are #2 and 3 for Israeli weapons imports

[fresh flower]

All Muslims countries trade with Israel and make them richer
Israel buys weapons with that money
"EU is bad"

???

The root issue is YOUR kind

[turbid dome]

Yeah the states are quite bad, but trading is still less bad than sending them weapons

[fresh flower]

Sell*
Only country giving weapons to Israel for free is USA

Misinformation is not allowed here

[turbid dome]

I just said send, which they objectively have.

Also selling is still bad, and Germany gives Israel money as "reparations"

[crystal kayak]

did you even read my message

[fresh flower]

Yes, you're pinning the blame on Gulf countries when all Muslim countries are inept

[turbid dome]

Not Iran

[fresh flower]

I lowkey blame them too for not developing nukes

[turbid dome]

ok fair

[cerulean pivot]

I'm highkey failing tomorrow

[river token]

But does EU apply the economic sanctions, financial restrictions, trade bans and individual sanctions it applied to Russia in Ukraine war? Since the cited reason for sanctioning russia was to uphold international law that prohibits border change by force.

[turbid dome]

what's tomorrow

[cerulean pivot]

Can y'all ban me for 1 night

[uncut tiger]

Let's prep in vc

[cerulean pivot]

My biochem midterm

[uncut tiger]

🫵🏻

[turbid dome]

EU literally sanctions people for being wrong about Russia, it's on a whole different level (it's white supremacy, Ukraine is way less of a disaster than Palestine)

[fresh flower]

They would if anyone was actually against it, but rn it looks like 90% of Muslim countries are okay with it

[turbid dome]

"report"

jk

[fresh flower]

I will make dua for you

[cerulean pivot]

As we say " it won't even reach the roof"

[crystal kayak]

Yes because they are more close to Palestine and have the capability to help but their don't.But please don't try to make it as Europe is doing something

[river token]

Diplomatically, a lot of countries have spoken against Israel in the UN.

Malaysia, Turkey, Pakistan are some of the ones that I can count right off the top of my head.

[cerulean pivot]

Cucklords

[sweet wolf]

Are you grignard-ing it

[cerulean pivot]

Fuckyourchudlife bro ✌🏻

Don't tease me like that

Gtg now cyall

[sweet wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-jarvis-gif-8941055286815288113

[river token]

Yeah, racial discrimination is not entirely unexpected from a continent of colonial countries.

[fresh flower]

Muslim countries do nothing but condemn, can't even get together and do a trade war
"They can only do so much with what God has given them"
EU countries want to move to actual bans
"EU is doing nothing"

[turbid dome]

Hüseyin Doğru can't do anything because he's pro palestine, but to appeal that he would have to go to court in brussels, but he can't do that because he's got travel restrictions, so challenging the sanctions is nearly impossible. And because he's pro-palestine they've labeled him as russian disinfo.

[fresh flower]

Can you blame them when those countries are still behaving like colonies

Hasn't Turkey been talking about wanting to do something about Israel for like 4 years now

[signal hill]

Does anyone here plays Reanial I am looking for a player to join me fast

[river token]

There are trade restrictions from Kuwait, Malaysia and Turkey in 2024 officially restricted most export and trade with Israel

[turbid dome]

He's also part kurdish @mint parrot (go get the kurds to attack the EU)

[crystal kayak]

Not trend followers, Africans are mostly raised with an idea that white is better than black,if you have lighter skin you are treated much better.That is why we Africans ourselves are not paying attention to what is happening in Sudan.If Sudan were majority light skin you would see so many African countries try and help

[turbid dome]

The europeans colonized the mind as well it seems

[river token]

It has, and the third party trade that happens through palestinian territories, they're cracking down on it as well. They recently banned EUR-MED certificates that were being used to reroute trades to Israel in hopes of stopping third route trade to the country.

[mint parrot]

He's half kurdish and Turkish

[turbid dome]

still

[mint parrot]

I don't even know who this guy is

[turbid dome]

he got his life ruined by the EU for not sucking off Israel

[mint parrot]

They would be like i would die for the kurdish state idea if i wasn't Muslim

[crystal kayak]

"They can only do so much with what God has given them" I was talking about the Muslim ummah not the billionaires who are running the country.So is Eu they always talk about banning but guess what they haven't still banned them😂😂 the only difference now between those gulf states and Europe is that Europe supplies the weapons that Israeli use to commit the genocide

[mint parrot]

"Those who offer Hüseyin Doğru money, food or even a bottle of water could find themselves in prison for up to 10 years under German law"

Wtf did he do

[turbid dome]

He got sanctioned by the EU because he was pro-palestine as a journalist

[river token]

That's honestly such a sad mindset. This colonial mindset causes so much internal hatred in Africa and hinders any solidarity to stand against exploitative entities. I guess discriminatory/racist media narratives have a way of getting to people.

[turbid dome]

so they said being pro palestine is being pro russia and therefore sanctioned

[crystal kayak]

Classic European tactics blame everything on Russia

[river token]

Africa is such a resource rich continent, exploitative colonialism destroyed such a naturally rich nation.

[turbid dome]

Africa isn't a country 😭

[river token]

I have to shower, my brain is getting foggy. 😭

[mint parrot]

A kurdish journalist who doesn't have a sing report about kurds wow idk but most of them act like a pro just to get fame

[crystal kayak]

yes

[turbid dome]

Yeah well he's not in the region so he wouldn't have the same access, he focused on pro-palestine protests being repressed in germany

[river token]

So sorry, I apologize!!

[mint parrot]

That's not a reason and also he's a pro russian

Lmao interesting

[turbid dome]

I mean, if you cann't provide original reporting it is

I'm not well suited to report on african affairs because a local journalist could do it better

[turbid dome]

He also denies that 😭 it's because of palestine

😭😭😭

"The NachDenkSeiten website confirmed via an EU source that these tweets were indeed the only “evidence” cited.

The posts in question are fully protected under freedom of expression. One discussed NATO’s recruitment of former officers in Hitler’s Wehrmacht (Army) such as Adolf Heusinger; two others criticised Chancellor Friedrich Merz’s militarist rhetoric; others commented on the “neoliberal disaster” of German reunification, reported on pro-Palestinian demonstrations and far-right marches in Germany, and covered protests against racist pogroms in Britain.

One tweet criticised the indifference of mainstream journalists, unions and press associations toward his case. Others referred to a Bundestag (parliamentary) resolution that could strip citizenship from those who criticise Israel and to racist remarks by a German MP, and expressed opposition to the Ukraine war, German rearmament and the poor living conditions of Ukrainian refugees. Red Media’s surveillance by the domestic intelligence agency was also mentioned."

[mint parrot]

European Union in May 2025 as part of its 17th package of sanctions against Russia

Doğru and several human rights observers contend that the "Russian actor" label is a pretext for political censorshi

He openly supported hamas

[wispy sky]

Still you didn't condemn whats happening in Nigeria because it is happening because of a islamic group yeah i can see you man
..If something happens to muslims y'all think the whole world should cry and protest against meanwhile same happens other communities not a single muslim will show up

[turbid dome]

lmao

[mint parrot]

He made a report about religion stuff in Germany

I need to take a look

[turbid dome]

Lmao

[crystal kayak]

They also kill African leaders who seem to not have this mindset of licking white a**,.Africa is still a colony of Europe

[manic juniper]

The guy you're replying to is an ex Muslim

[mint parrot]

He's cooked

[river token]

I didn't mean to write Africa as a country by the way, I'm so sorry. It's such a stupid notion, I originally got brain fogged and typed in America with "country" but I know Africa is a continent. The point being I wasn't trying to be racist. 😭

[plain ruin]

They guy you're saying this to is among the biggest anti islam people here, consider yourself fried, not cooked

[wispy sky]

Oh lol

[mint parrot]

Red Media’s(his channel) surveillance by the domestic intelligence agency was also mentioned

[turbid dome]

yup

[fresh flower]

Why do Africans and Muslims always blame white people instead of accepting that they're inept and can't cooperate for a common cause

[wispy sky]

I ain't cooked or fried.i just asked why people often ignore other genocides that's happening around the world and focusing on one single genocide because of a polltical stunt and anti semtism

[fresh flower]

Combined IOC gdp is like 9 trillion but they act like poverty stricken leper children

[shell hemlock]

how do you edit these arrows so quickly

[plain ruin]

One is done by a country
And has been done by that country since that country was created

[fresh flower]

It's a skill acquired by talking to people here

[river token]

US and Europe were central in creating UN and International laws that apply to every country globally. They presented themselves as the defender of international law and order. They can't be selective about where to uphold it and where not to.

[turbid dome]

They just want a pro regime "bomb nigeria harder" rally ignoring that protests and activism are pressure focused

[plain ruin]

@turbid dome you're a jew, you can handle this guy while I head off to bed

[wispy sky]

Meanwhile on the other hand Uae is funding a terrorist organisation to eradicate a specific people from their land there ain't no difference here

[plain ruin]

Yes
That's been going on for a few years
While we're almost a 100 years into what Israel has been doing

Did you skip that bit?

Martini, take over and have a good day

[turbid dome]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[river token]

Racial discrimination plays a huge role in popularity of an issue. But you can't apply humanitarian lens to communities you align with and go "you get to be bombed" to countries or communities that you don't feel an alignment to.

[slender coral]

Idk what's happening in Nigeria, dude. You can't address my points?

[wispy sky]

Genocide in Nigeria started from 2008 what do you mean by few years ?

[manic juniper]

It's as if they aren't capable of producing any media on their own or as if their countries aren't that populated

[mint parrot]

Information Manipulation: He is accused of "systematically spreading false information" on politically controversial subjects, specifically intended to create ethnic and religious discord within Germany.

Damn what gonna happen to him

[wispy sky]

I align with humanity tbh
..no one is there to speak about this genocide...tbh and it is kinda sad have you ever searched the death toll of whats happening in Nigeria

[river token]

Because, apart from a select few countries, majority of muslim counties are poor and can't really pick and choose what country to do trade with. (Exempt Saudi Arabia and UAE from this, they choose to align themselves with Israel).

[turbid dome]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

US airstrikes on nigeria and US personnel in nigeria helping christians dealing with the extremists vs US helping commit genocide in Palestine.

Major difference

[plain ruin]

So you're mixing multiple in factions and none of which are state actors and equating it to what Israel is doing, which is not just a genocide

[wispy sky]

You should really search about it man ...it very inhuman tbh ...yeah i get ur points

[plain ruin]

Calling what Israel has been doing a genocide is too little

[turbid dome]

he's a non person now just because he was mean to israel lol

[plain ruin]

You should see how israeli id cards were upto 2000

[river token]

I understand you feel deeply about issues in Nigeria, Sudan and Congo but much of it is racial discrimination and not religion based.

[fresh flower]

Yes so you guys agree with my initial point, EU has done more for Palestine than the combined Islamic ummah, regardless if the latter is broke or inept

[manic juniper]

That doesn't stop them from having better media, how come we have local news that reports on things but their national media can't do better? I doubt one town from my country has a bigger economy than their whole country

[wispy sky]

Same goes to muslims countries funding terrorist organisations to kill other communities....

[river token]

What do you mean by better media, I don't understand...

[manic juniper]

Their news channels and programs

[fresh flower]

Even the misinformation is bad

[manic juniper]

If they complain that the world isn't focusing on their issues why can't they? No one is forcing them to watch news on Palestine and Ukraine rather than Sudan

[river token]

I know media, but why do you think they're incompetent?

[fresh flower]

I spread more antisemitism online than Muslim countries

They're fr not doing shit

[wispy sky]

Yeah sadly let's hope this all fckin ends tbh

[plain ruin]

It speaks about racial issues being built into the system, apart from daily racial issues 😂

[river token]

That's a different conversation than the conversation I was replying to Olivander about.

This is about EU vs muslim countries' ability to not trade with Israel.

[wispy sky]

I wonder why egypt or jordan are not allowing Palestinian refugees

[manic juniper]

You mentioned it here
#🧠｜serious-chat message

[plain ruin]

It's because it would make it easier for Israel to legitimatise their control over more land

[river token]

Oh, that's another tangent that stemmed later. Sorry, multiple conversations are happening at once.

[turbid dome]

also it would be destabilizing on their US-backed governments

[wispy sky]

Huh? Palestinians can't even defend themselves they don't even have a proper military..

[plain ruin]

This is oxymoronic
Western countries base their values on middle eastern religions to begin with

[high raven]

There's around 2 million Palestinians in Jordan

The refugees are in the half a million figure

[turbid dome]

“You are being invited to help make history,” he wrote, “It doesn’t involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor ; not Englishmen, but Jews . How, then, do I happen to turn to you since this is an out-of-the-way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something colonial.”

-Theodor Herzl, founding father of Zionism

“A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!… Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important… to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot – or else I am through with playing at colonizing.”

-Vladimir Jabotinsky, early zionist

[wispy sky]

Oh ok i didn't know that

[plain ruin]

Reminds me of the attitude towards a certain community in Europe

[plain ruin]

That's because of foreign intervention forcing Israel's creation right after the Ottoman collapse

It's very much middle eastern values
You should see how the Bible handles race

[river token]

Comparatively, muslim countries have done the most that they can (exempting UAE and Saudi from this conversation) while EU is capable of doing a lot more.

They don't even have to do so much, just stopping the trade of military weapons to Israel would be enough.

[mint parrot]

Deport?

[sweet wolf]

How do you know yashasvi

[turbid dome]

"In his memoirs, Ben-Gurion repeats that it was a positive “love for Zion” that drew him to Palestine, underlining that he had not experienced antisemitism in Płońsk: “[…] we lived in complete harmony with our Polish neighbors.” He also stressed that he left Płońsk out of love for Zion and the Hebrew language – and not out of fear or desire to flee. The fact that he did not hesitate to send his wife Paula and their daughter Geula (with means ‘redemption’) and son Amos to Płońsk fifteen years later reflects this. From April 1921 to April 1922, they lived here for a year in Avigdor’s home on today’s Wspólna Street."

-Times of Israel, talking about the first prime minister of israel

[wispy sky]

Uae and saudi are truly a puppet state of US

[plain ruin]

Yes, and now saying Christ is King is anti semitic, the term is very diluted in meaning compared to what it once was

[turbid dome]

no just let him languish ig

[river token]

I don't recall, it was a long time ago.

[turbid dome]

You were saying middle eastern values, but it's clearly a european style settler colonial project which views itself as at odds with the natives

[plain ruin]

Don't forget that even Palestinian jews who supported jews coming to the region, were disappointed by them bringing European cultures and not trying to reintegrate with their original cultures

[sweet wolf]

Small world

[high raven]

Most likely because Jordan grants them citizenship, which in my opinion they shouldn't, since it normalises the "They can go live in a Muslim country" argument

[plain ruin]

(or descendants of their original cultures)

[mint parrot]

Did he get frozen from work

[turbid dome]

yes, he can't work or get money or donations

[plain ruin]

ST probably, common server

[mint parrot]

So literally making him to leave

[turbid dome]

lmao

[turbid dome]

No, he's not allowed to leave

He can't contest it because it requires him to travel to belgium

[sweet wolf]

I know that person irl and she doesn't talk on st much, just has a study journal

[plain ruin]

She used to talk

[mint parrot]

Damn can't leave and can't work

[plain ruin]

During events especially

[river token]

The conflict as we know it wouldn't happen if Nakba didn't take place and Ashkenazi jews were mindful of the palestinian towns and homes.

[mint parrot]

And not letting others help him

[turbid dome]

yeah, he's screwed

Eu is brutal like that

[sweet wolf]

You know her too 😭

[plain ruin]

When wasn't the old testament a settler colonial project itself

[plain ruin]

Yes
She was on hussains server, she even knows thiefpad

[fresh flower]

Why do you people believe this, they literally have a chokehold on petroleum and natural gas. Iran has been at the strait for how long now and everyone is in panic, Muslim countries could've closed it and forced a peace deal with USA and Israel but they CHOSE not to

[wispy sky]

Exactly...tbh Palestinians can't do nothing against Israel rn without any intervention of bunch of country like Militarily... because israel is now so overconfident that it can do anything...and no one will touch them

[fresh flower]

The colonised mentality needs to end these countries are developed

[sweet wolf]

[wispy sky]

Even majority of my country are blind supporters of Israel

Because they helped us during indo pak war

[plain ruin]

No
Just saying that the values are no different
Europeans used the old testament scripture a lot to justify colonization and even racism

For example the curse of ham where it was said the descendants of ham would be slaves of shem, they would say that the descendants of ham ended up being black people
There's many examples

[high raven]

Not going to happen lol, if the entire Palestinian area was razed tomorrow every Islamic country's leader would let out a sigh of relief

[river token]

The strait was not closed even by Iran which is a long time palestinian ally until it was forced to do so to throw off USA.

The countries need to put first the wellbeing and economy of their own civilians before a geopolitical issue.

[plain ruin]

You should probably have a general look at how people justified modern "western" racism using the Bible before claiming that its a western notion to begin with

That's why I said it's an oxymoron
It is nonsense to say that the standards should be different for the west and the middle east

Missed the point

^

[wispy sky]

Clowns for a reason

[fresh flower]

They'd literally celebrate it

[river token]

Every is a overstatement, especially after introduction of greater Israeli plan that audaciously claims parts of lebanon, syria, egypt and iraq.

It's not official but merging Palestine into Israel raises concerns of expansionism for every arab country in border with Israel.

[fresh flower]

Aren't the last 3 pretty much friends with Israel

[wispy sky]

They can't go war with Egypt...it's one of the strongest military in that region

[river token]

Iraq is friends with Israel?

[fresh flower]

Iraq itself yes, they import from and export to Israel, 2024 alone was around $109 billies

The Shia's aren't

[river token]

Just because trades are happening with the country doesn't mean they will support Israel occupation of their own teritorry.

It's opportunism, not friendship as per se.

[high raven]

The Palestine issue is a thorn in the side for all Islamic countries, they're unable to balance developing through normalisation with Israel and thus trade with the US, with appeasing their Muslim population to keep up the illusion of an "Ummah". Settling the issue, one way or another, is a huge upside for them. Lebanon is held hostage by Shia's, Julani is moving towards normalisation, Egypt and Iraq actively trade with Israel. The "Greater Israel plan" is a non-issue, hence why Jordan is well off with normalisation despite being in the middle of it

That's just my opinion though

[heady temple]

Hi Black's body

[high raven]

Aqsa matters, the people don't, it's why none of them is doing anything

[fresh flower]

Ya Allah look at the state of the ummah 💔💔💔💔

[river token]

I just think the expansionism and nazi ideologies of current Israeli leader is almost impossible to negotiate with. The malevolence and impunity from the other side is almost impossible to negotiate with, without jeopardizing their country's civilians life and trust.

All the countries that you mention aren't first hand (in the sense of being directly against Israel and not in supportive positions in the conflict) victims of atrocities committed by the IDF. Lebanese situation is unfair, it feels like they were dragged into a war that was never their own and honestly, I agree that the two state solution despite being unfair has to be worked with. The Israeli population will never leave to Europe and neither will Europe and US ever support that. If only the Israeli leader was someone more reasonable and not an expansionist, hitler-like and almost sadistic person, negotiations would be easier.

I do feel like expansionism would be a point of contention for many arab countries if Israel never leaves buffer zones in Lebanon...

Netanyahu has repeatedly opposed right to return for palestinian refugees, but the Law of Return allows any Jew in the world to "return" to Israel. That's just ethno-nationalism. They're also expansionists.

Not very different from Nazism and Hitler's ideology.

He doesn't even support giving citizenship to Palestinians in West Bank or Gaza, and just wants to control those territories and keep those people as subhumans rather than civilians of an actual nation.

Throwback to Nazism and ethnonationalism.
People can't get food or aid, their homes are being raided. They can't get Israeli citizenship, if they seek refuge in other countries, they don't have right to return.

How do you negotiate with that?

[crystal kayak]

"Make them richer"😂😂the one's doing that are EU and the US.And I didn't disagree that Muslim countries do trade with Israel but so does European countries too.European trades bring in more money for Israel than the Muslim countries do.So their are using the money their got from Europe to buy Weapons from Europe to slaughter kids.

[crystal kayak]

@turbid dome

Isn't he aware of the destruction the white men caused

[wispy sky]

We all should collectively blame Britishers and Germans for this from balfour declaration to painter

[turbid dome]

Yeah it’s almost amazing seeing this said while looking at all the times that people tried to do better for it to be crushed, with independence only handed out on the terms of the colonizer as a way to keep their preferred groups in power

[turbid dome]

||no idea but it’s just racism that enforced neocolonialism||

[high raven]

Their next leader will, if not should, be as bad if not worse since everyone has shown that they can do what they do and get away with it. There's absolutely no reason for them to elect someone more "normal". I'd have to disagree with the expansionism part though, they'd move on and ignore it, Golan heights for example rarely get mentioned, neither does East Jerusalem

[high raven]

That's not happening lol, it will be seen (Again) as a Shia issue

[river token]

It's so appalling the amount of value people can assign to religion over literal people's life and basic humanity.

How irreligious and immoral of them.

[crystal kayak]

Right,Nobody would blame them if they just left as alone😭and stopped exploiting our lands

[river token]

It's just a pathetic situation with no end and any scope of negotiation until USA decides to put its foot down and stop supporting Israel.

[fresh flower]

Lmao what do you think they do with the money they earn trading with Muslims? Buy cotton candy?

[fresh flower]

It's an objective truth, yall are stuck in a colonised mindset

Any funding to repair or develop the countries goes to corruption

My God the Finnoids could move on why can't they

[crystal kayak]

Your the one saying their only use Muslim countries money to buy the weapons soo

[river token]

I think I've heard a lot of statements against expansionism by arab leaders in 2025... But yeah, since they're not active on their shpeals maybe they are just being thespians and playing a role of muslim solidarity.

[crystal kayak]

Now you are just playing dumb

[fresh flower]

What I never said that, I said there's no reason for the EU to not sell weapons to Israel if the Muslims themselves accept and approve of the genocide

[river token]

How? USA funnels billions annually to Israel, where do you think they'd get the resources?

[fresh flower]

Why is it the white mans responsibility when yall actively fuel it (Too)

[fresh flower]

?
We used the finnoids as cannon fodder, we forced them to learn Swedish, we took over their politics (And still do today). They moved on and developed

[river token]

What about the Russian conflict?

[crystal kayak]

Nobody approved of the genocide,the bitter truth is Eu just like the gulf state did nothing except fund a genocide that have killed hundreds of thousands of kids

[river token]

How?

That was my question, not deflection of "holding back"

Because they're not "holding back", how do you think they're "holding back"?

Why so?

[crystal kayak]

In the current day(present )how are Finn's treated.

[fresh flower]

EU took a united front and sanctioned and banned Russians, they didn't divide between colonised/colonist states. Islamic countries inability to do that is worse than any billion dollar arms sale to Israel

[fresh flower]

We control their politics

They're treated how we want them to be treated

[manic juniper]

We only got language rights in Sweden a decade or two ago

And they sterilised some of us up to the 80s

Other than that it's much preferable to the alternative

[fresh flower]

If you drive to the village of Siilinjärvi and ask a random Finn if they still feel like a colony they'll say no, because they moved on

[manic juniper]

Even the most vocal Instagram activists will say "Look how they treated us like shit! Both the government and the church.
BUT they apologised so we are totally cool now"

Legit like this lmao they moved on after an apology

[river token]

No, I'm saying how will they manage to get large enough funds to fight in West Bank, Gaza, Hezbollah and Iran simultaneously without USA funding?

Perspective is a whole another issue.

[manic juniper]

Not that it's a bad thing, overfixating on this would be primitive when it's part of the past and it was fixed

[fresh flower]

That's what I'm saying bro, but for some reasons Muslims/Africans immediate reaction to X problem is "White mans fault"

[crystal kayak]

Look at Africa,the people in Africa aren't even viewed as human beings bruh,why you ask? Because of white people.And to this day African land and natural resources are being exploited by the white men.So tell me why shouldn't I blame the white man?

[fresh flower]

Because it's your own people's fault

[crystal kayak]

How is it?😂😂

May you be blessed with a brain

[fresh flower]

Corruption is the norm in Africa, any trade deals only benefit the CEO or the president/PM, the people have a choice but instead of doing anything their reaction is "White man did this"

It's been decades, move on atp

[manic juniper]

Lol we weren't seen as white either until we earned their respect and now we are

[crystal kayak]

@fresh flower If I come to your house with a rifle and steal all your stuff is that your fault

[river token]

Do you take every country to the same standard? Many European countries prospered from colonialism that they can afford to cut ties economically and trade wise.

[fresh flower]

Even Romania is starting to develop

[manic juniper]

It's possible to remove the stigma just as Japan and Korea did

[fresh flower]

If after 100 years I didn't change the lock or remodel it yes

If you robbed me then paid me each month to rebuild and buy from IKEA and I spent it on snus yes it's my fault

[river token]

Japan was a prosperous country and Korea was helped and supported by Japan even after its freedom as reparation of its former colony.

[crystal kayak]

The people have a choice😂😂we really don't, our countries are ran by white men from curtains.You try and rise up you die

[manic juniper]

Japan was prosperous after multiple reforms, otherwise it'd be poor like China and Korea after WW2

[fresh flower]

Did they assassinate Ibrahim Traoré?

Afaik the guy who cut ties with "evil" Westerners and went with Russia is well and happy

[manic juniper]

Lol honestly the fact that he's alive convinces me that it's true, we are exploiting Africa's worst leadership

Can't you understand sarcasm

[crystal kayak]

How though when the thief is still there and controlling everything and I mean everything,for example how black children grew up and they literally shaped the youths to not rise up against them

Are you dumb

[fresh flower]

Where? Manufacturing has moved to China and India, T-shirts are made by child workers in Bangladesh, fruit is farmed by pregnant women in Indonesia and Brazil. "We" literally only use the DRC for cobalt and that's just for a decade or two more before the massive mines "we" have start operating

[crystal kayak]

They want too,look at how the European at countries are foaming at the mouths.

[fresh flower]

Only ones doing so is Russia and China, because Africans believe they're a better alternative to EU/USA (Instead of them developing their own countries)

[crystal kayak]

I swear to God you are dumb,do you think years of those things just happens to go away, their literally shaped how young kids in Africa grew up.

[high raven]

That's literally just it, they'll pull a UN and "Strongly condemn" or speak for unity in the name of the "Ummah" but it amounts to nothing, the cost of it has to be paid by the Palestinians, a few Shias and Christians in Lebanon

[crystal kayak]

Mauritania,Senegal,sierra Leon,Namibia,Ghana and Kenya are this not all countries in Africa that the Eu is still exploiting

At this point you are trying to ragebait me

[crystal kayak]

I listed a couple of African countries that eu still exploiting

[river token]

You deleted your message?

[crystal kayak]

That says alot about you,thanks for the information

[high raven]

Not sure what you're referring to but Israel would be no different than its neighbouring countries without US support and the tech transfer

[river token]

$16-21+ billion extra aid since 2023, isn't a low number, most of their GDP comes from tech, they import most of the tech material, chips, machinery and scientific equipment from US. US sanctions can harm Israel's economy quite a bit.

This is my response to your question referencing Israeli GDP which is largely backed by EU and US.

[crystal kayak]

Please don't try and engage in argument with this guy you can clearly see he lacks some part of the brain

[river token]

US is the largest exporter of Israeli technology.

[fresh flower]

How are they exploiting them though

[river token]

US investor groups are the largest investors of Israeli banks.

[high raven]

They wouldn't no

[river token]

Do you know how private investments work? They're influenced by low risk and stability.

It's not something the government cannot influence indirectly.

Pulling support and condemning a genocide as the central country in formation of international law isn't a far fetched idea. Why do you seem to think so?

[high raven]

Due to US tech transfer yes, Intel and their 4-5 fabs in Israel are American, their military operates on US gear, the desalination plants are Texas tech, there's little inherently innovative and fully Israeli

[river token]

Yes, this^

[high raven]

Take that away and you have Saudi Arabia, minus the petroleum

[river token]

No, you're saying a nothing burger right now. I never talked about Israel being aggressive, I was talking about a government change.

That's economic risk for private investments as response to your comment that private investments aren't influenced by govt. entities.

[high raven]

It's imported, it's American and European, not Israeli. The same way Saudis are biologically lazy and have Lebanese/Syrian/Egyptian people and US/EU companies running most of their country. Remove US support, or foreign tech/workers from SA, and they're the same country

[river token]

Private investments flow wherever political stability is.

The government can restrict financial activity, thus increasing risk for US investors in Israel. That's disregarding the option of sanctions.

Policy changes also affect investments.

That happened with US private investors in Russia, they pulled out because keeping money in that market became risky or illegal.

Withdrawing support is also removing rose tinted glasses and acknowledging an active genocide and breach of international law.

[high raven]

If a pro-LGBTQ man from Brooklyn or Germany settled in Saudi Arabia would you say that Saudis have western values?

The second part just reiterates what I said earlier, they're trained in STEM/Tech/AI because of the US transferring tech and manufacturing hubs to Israel

[river token]

Situation in Israel is more complex than "who attacked first", palestine occupied under Israel, even there the Palestinians can't get israeli citizenship. Hostages are being r-ped and tortured. Civil infrastructure is being bombed, aid denied. It's a war crime however you look at it.

Israel doesn't plan to give Palestinians in Palestine territories occupied by Israel any citizenship or any political status.

It's ethnonationalism and nazism.

Yes. They're supposed to be sanctioned worse than russia for being a nazi state.

Is it? Officially, Palestine has supported two state solution and never urged for expulsion of Israelis the same way Israel has for Palestine. Even though Ashkenazis Israelis don't belong to Levant.

[high raven]

You're conflating their innovation, or lack thereof, with their ability to work in those fields. You'd have the same results if the same tech was transferred to X country. Enabling further advancements is the issue, not retracting their current knowledge. For example the recent tech transfer from US AI companies has enabled them to conduct mass surveillance and tracking of the civilian population in the West Bank

If your point is that they'd develop their own even if you took that away then yes. If I showed you how to bake a cupcake you'd learn too

[river token]

What happens? It turns to how it was pre 1948 before the Jews decided to steal Palestinian land and commit Nakba?

Jewish identity.

[high raven]

Because they're backed and protected by the US

[crystal kayak]

Look at the trade treaty from Europe that Kenya signed and tell me who it favours the most.I am going to sleep and if I wake up in the morning to a reply from you talking nonsense,I am putting you in the category of mrsheen, little monster, Minecraft and nobu

[high raven]

Israel isn't risky lol, it's very safe if you're Jewish

[river token]

Because, Israel doesn't agree with right to return for Palestinians that own land in Israel rightfully and have lived there for generations.

That's what she said.

[high raven]

It's not risky for investments either, TA-125 is going, and has been, going up, because of US protection and consistent tech transfer

[river token]

Do you understand basics of investment and how companies pour in funds to low risk high rewarding spaces?

That usually happens due to political stability.

I never said they would, did I?

[high raven]

Those are EU countries and not a US project, the EU is notoriously hard to work with, that's why there's no actual work being done on AI here

[river token]

Because it cares about it's people.

[high raven]

You don't really go to the EU for innovation

[river token]

I said, Palestinians agree on two state solution, even the ones that don't, have a rational reason on why don't they support the solution model unlike Israel.

[river token]

Israeli retaliation is purely based on expansionist agenda.

Benjamin Netanyahu adopted a policy that allowed Qatari funds to flow into Gaza, which critics argue bolstered Hamas's governance and stability.

The new york times

No. That bolsters the argument that Israel is an expansionist country.

Your solution is keeping Palestinians and subhumans against Israeli occupation of Palestine?

[woven quail]

Iraqi keep attacking now and 2 civilian person died even when we are not in the war and we didn’t do anything

I hope all the Arab countries be Jews slaves like that and be slave in this world and in the other world

[river token]

Yes, it does. That's because there's official Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and funding Hamas counters the official Palestinian demand of a two state solution.

They want the area to be volatile so they can take over.

[woven quail]

They don’t even have countries they’re all isreal and USA land

No Arab countries

[high raven]

Israel is a US regional outpost in the Middle East, having the full backing of the richest and most powerful nation in history is great value. They've received constant military aid since 1967, Intel fabs started operating there around 1975. Israel was chosen due to the neighbouring countries alignment to the USSR, pan-Arabism and the regional ambitions of Egypt/Syria/Iraq to control the region which opposes US dominance

[woven quail]

There’s no Arab countries in Middle East it’s all belong to USA bro

[river token]

I would imagine it to be quite complex to be pro-r*pe, predation, raidings, making civilians subhuman, displacing from their homes etc.

Jewish identity.

Racial discrimination, and "westernization".

Because they're quite literally from Europe or "the west".

Yes, they would be.

Especially if you were to factor in that the land does not belong to the jews or israelis in the first place.

[high raven]

I just gave you three reasons lol. I said, take those away and they're the same countries. Israel or "Jewish identity" is no different or more advanced than that of an Arabs, if you'd really want something unique then it would have to be that some of them were white settlers and thus considered "Like us"

[mint parrot]

Too serious

[high raven]

I'm not sure if xenophobia would legitimise the investing in Israel though

By a predominantly Muslim population? They'd have a second holocaust

I wouldn't say that it's an alternate reality, look at where the indigenous ethnic minorities of the Middle East now live, almost all Arameans are in Europe and America, the Mandeans are in Australia, the Yazidis hide their identity, so too do the Baha'i in Iran

There's many more too who were persecuted by countries with a predominantly Muslim population

[river token]

Jewish identity is much more profitable, almost all founders of big tech companies are jews from google to meta to oracle to dell to Blackrock to Open AI, to Geoffrey Hinton known as godfather of AI. You can look up they why, Jews were always pushed into economic roles in Europe and had always been a rich diaspora. Famous cliché examples if I had to give would be the Rothschild, Warberg, Schiff, Lauder, Goldmen, Redstone, Soros etc.

Many of these historically rich families have supported and funneled their resources through self proclaimed philanthropy into Israel.

Jewish identity is more profitable than arab or muslim identity. Ashkenazi jews are very close to white ethnicity, there's racial bias. And also, the rich companies influence govt. policies, no country wants to flunk it's economy by screwing all it's wealthy businesses.

Not really, by 1947, Jews only owned about 6 or 7% of the land in Palestine. Britain didn't give the jews levant land but issued israel as jewish home; they didn't directly transfer most land ownership.

The plan wasn't 50-50, it was 55% land to the Jewish minority and 45% to Palestinians.

Civil war broke out, and the palestinians were forced out of their homes and displaced (Around 700,000, in a tragic event called Nakba). The Israelis grabbed the land of displaced Palestinians, they then controlled 78% of the Palestinian land.

It fluctuated as wars happened a after that, but the Israel after the Six Day war again started controlling 78% of the land of palestine that it controls to date.

So they never legally bought the land, they expelled people from the lands.

To ethnically cleanse israel of palestinians and make it a jewish home.

[fresh flower]

This is literally colonisation

Wtf they're forcing gender equality too!!!

They're forcing Kenyan women to have rights

[river token]

Because they didn't own the land. The British forced the palestinians to accept that jews were going to live among them.

When the Palestinians were being displaced and exiled and killed is when the war broke out. Israel was supported by EU and US who wanted to get rid of the blame ot holocaust. While Ottoman had just broken up and Arab nations were struggling with independence and their own country's issues.

Where do you live?

[quasi needle]

This is foreign intervention. Stop it now.

[river token]

Figured, do you support mass migration in europe?

[fresh flower]

@river token @abstract night You two are going to look schizo once Sheen runs the TamperMonkey script to delete this daily messages

[quasi needle]

Women’s rights more likes women’s schmights

[river token]

Not now, they're legally obliged to return the land.

[quasi needle]

Are you arguing in favour of tribalism

[river token]

Worse, Nazism.

[quasi needle]

I’m too tired to scroll up so

[quasi needle]

Wow

[river token]

America wasn't the one that exiled it's native population and doesn't give them the right to return.

Why won't the people of Palestine live in Palestine? Native americans live in America.

[fresh flower]

He follows a Minecraftian ideology

[river token]

Who's sheen?

[quasi needle]

Minecraftian is just Nazi Zionist Socialist Capitalist Child-eating

[river token]

So? Does that mean the palestinians get to come back?

[fresh flower]

The guy you're talking to bro

[quasi needle]

The difference here is the Palestinian issue is current and the Native American issue is past

We can’t do anything about the native Americans

Palestine can still actively be resolved reasonably

[river token]

They do actually. Jews owned only 6-7% of Israeli land while the rest was palestinian owned land that was grabbed.

[quasi needle]

That’s a hypothetical that will never happen

[fresh flower]

Reminded me to message him

[quasi needle]

It won’t so it’s pointless to argue

The Spanish route

[fresh flower]

@fervent oxide Supreme Leader Trump agrees with me, people who don't pay taxes shouldn't have an opinion in politics, that's why ICE deports them, they should do the same to you OWPTIW

Opinion Without Paying Taxes Is Worthless

你不去麦当劳喝汤，也别问穷人意见。

Long live the war on unemployed people

[river token]

The difference between native americans in america and Palestinians in israel is, native americans get free healthcare, scholarship grants, sovereignty to open courts in their land while Palestinians are denied basic citizenship.

Palestinians aren't compensated for history, but punished for it.

No... It is not, actually.

You're assuming a lot of stuff.

[quasi needle]

What if millions of mostly content people suddenly starting revolting? - reasonable hypothetical

What if support of Israel ceased and Palestinian recognition started becoming serious? - unreasonable hypothetical

[river token]

That is a fancy strawman for compensation and reparation.

[quasi needle]

Ongoing conflict vs historical injustice

[river token]

Like native Americans did get money for the land they've lost in modern civil world.

[high raven]

Are we giving Palestinians the right to casinos

[river token]

They were to a large degree, or at least there were measures put in place for that. I don't see the same in Israel.

What are you talking about? Is this a rhetoric for you than actual people's lives?

[mint parrot]

Is it still the same topic

[river token]

Are we going to organism and ape era next?

[fresh flower]

Sorry bro no Turks or Arabs here rn to fight

[mint parrot]

@abstract night he is arab

[river token]

No. My reasoning isn't flawed, it's just not based in rhetoric.

It's very figureable since older generations of palestinians are still alive.

We're talking about 1948 not, 1800s.

[quasi needle]

No, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m not basing justice on feelings, I’m basing it on current measurable harm and what can realistically be done about it today. Past injustice matters but solutions should fit the present. Native American harm obv persists but within long established structures, so the most effective solutions here focuses on improving present conditions

[river token]

Of course it cannot be the totality of what they lost. They'd be given reparations and money, and 50% of the land as originally promised by the British.

[manic juniper]

Wait what do we get from this? Just a pinky promise that they'll treat their own environment with respect?

[quasi needle]

Every environmental treaty ever in the history of treaties

[fresh flower]

We get a warm feeling in our tummy that we did something good

[river token]

Because 80 year olds exist, 200 year olds don't.

[quasi needle]

The EU gets to feel proud that they issued their 29000th pointless nothing burger statement

[fresh flower]

We must do a trade deal with Ethiopia so one of them becomes a Swedish citizen and we win gold in Olympics marathon running

[quasi needle]

Hey we made everyone use USB-C cables! Well actually there’s 14 different types of USB-C that don’t do the same things and have different speeds and we’re not going to fix that

[manic juniper]

"You better treat YOUR country well!"

• Colonial powers of 21st century

[quasi needle]

The EU on their way to introduce a new consumerist policy that sounds good but actually fucking ruins everything

[fresh flower]

Literally USB-C

[river token]

Because the population grew, they can't sustain themselves on 7% land.

[quasi needle]

FUCK bureaucracy

[quasi needle]

Hm… if only..

And website cookies

That’s the EU’s fault

[inland hedge]

that would be the reason they're ethnically cleansing them.. some people here still find ways to defend lmao

[river token]

It wouldn't be as recent. That's all, morally they'd still be obliged to do so.

[mint parrot]

Like Chinese with american citizens who won china in math

[last geyser]

Hi Guys

[inland hedge]

yo

[river token]

It's just so surprising how someone can be do blatant in their support to Nazism and ethnonationalism.

[inland hedge]

rs

[last geyser]

Yo

[inland hedge]

wyd

[last geyser]

Nt

[manic juniper]

Second guy from the right is DEI

[river token]

If you cannot be civil and make factually correct statements, this conversation is just exasperating.

I will digress.

Good day.

[fresh flower]

They look Finnish bro do you recognise one of them

[woven quail]

God what a nice day

[fresh flower]

Lav "Yes to war" Ender

[manic juniper]

The guy in the middle looks like chudjack

[inland hedge]

@abstract night do you think this whole "give the land back to the palestinians" thing be as present as it is now if the israeli government chose to treat arabs the same way they treat their jewish populace

[mint parrot]

At least there's one non asian on them 😂

[river token]

Investment prospects, access to kenyan markets and influence in the region.

[woven quail]

All those Palestinian are getting executed all those Kurds are gotten killed

And Arab decide to say “ oh trump oh Jews pls f Iran pls destroy Iran we are your slave “

[inland hedge]

sure lol

[high raven]

What

[manic juniper]

What does the Kenyan market offer

[woven quail]

Btw Arab did those to Palestinian

[woven quail]

That’s true so

[river token]

You say you support a two-state solution, you don't agree that Israelis should give palestine their land back. What state? Imaginary two-states? Gaza and west bank are under Israel in Benjamin Netanyahu's map.

[inland hedge]

did i post a photo about hamas kidnapping civilians? it was a jewish citizen antagonising a palestinian

why do you equate this to that lmao

[woven quail]

So happy

Hahahahahhaha

[quasi needle]

Magically? No, that’s another strawmanned hypothetical that makes it sound simpler than it is.

If a state like Israel took control of an area like the Gaza Strip for centuries and fully integrated it while improving people’s lives, morality and practicality separates. Stop framing this as a moral question.

Morally, it’s still not right. But in practice, after that level of integration, reversal becomes unrealistic. It’d have limited support and huge disruption. So the solution stops being about undoing the past and becomes about what’s workable

[woven quail]

Ppl still talking about israel and Palestine

[inland hedge]

"Ne’er the twain: an Israeli woman and a Palestinian woman gesture at each other during a protest in Jerusalem’s Old City. Photograph: Finbarr O'Reilly/Reuters"

[woven quail]

What a joke

[inland hedge]

how is that not meaningful

it literally correlates to our discussion

you said that the israelis treat palestinians better than the palestinians treat their women

and im giving you a photo of how a palestinian was treated by an israeli

[quasi needle]

A two state solution obviously. Except both states are under the United States of Greater Israel!

[inland hedge]

i can mention the constant no-reason raids on al aqsa during ramadan every year

[river token]

"recently" they are only 80-85 years old as a country. The Palestinians cannot sustain their original population is war destroyed land.

They've to follow the 50-50 state solution presented by British since the land was originally Palestinian under british rule. Wars aren't a reasonable way to annex territory, if europe condemns that in Ukraine, germany, and all these countries they should hold the same standard for Palestine.

[inland hedge]

there aint no "small instances" in the palestinian-israeli dispute mate

[river token]

"Small instances" of Israelis being antagonistic.

But Palestinians in their entirety are evil to women.

[quasi needle]

Small instances 💀

[river token]

That's your logic.

[quasi needle]

There we go folks

Dude just ousted himself as a zio freak

[inland hedge]

small instances would literally prevent the whole thing lmao

[high raven]

I'd have to disagree lol, they spit on random Christian nuns, I doubt they have or will treat a Palestinian woman better

[river token]

They're killing shias in lebanon, raiding random palestinian homes, torturing kids and adults, r-ping women but sure let's ignore that.

[quasi needle]

Small instances when the majority of Israelis want Palestine wiped off the map and support the hanging of Palestinians law

[inland hedge]

yeah "small instances"✌️

[river token]

"R-pe rights for soldiers to hostages" protests? Let's ignore that.

[quasi needle]

I’m sure the Israeli courts will treat people charged of terrorism fairly

Despite repeated cases of them not doing exactly that

[high raven]

Both, a wild take here is that both Zionism and Islamism is bad

[river token]

Can you justify why it isn't.

[inland hedge]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/10/world/middleeast/jerusalem-protests-aqsa-palestinians.html

[inland hedge]

like this was for no reason at all asw

[quasi needle]

The moral code???

In the 40s and onwards?

Absolutely not

[inland hedge]

how morally acceptable is it for an entire race fresh outta genocide to do the same on one another😭✌️

[quasi needle]

No.

That’s just patently incorrect

The Middle East was not a tribalist region by the 40s

[river token]

Poland, Czech, Austria, Greece, Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Philippines, Indonesia, Vietnam were all annexed in 1940s and liberated soon after.

[quasi needle]

I am

[quasi needle]

But the arbitrary non existent “moral code” was different you see!

What do you mean by that

What am I preaching

[inland hedge]

War ≠ Genocide

[quasi needle]

Palestine has their land that’s drawn on the map?

[inland hedge]

Expulsions and all other forms of oppressions the palestinians had to endure cannot simply be portrayed as "well uhh israel fought and won yk"

[quasi needle]

What do I possess that’s stolen due to colonial projects

[river token]

UK paid reparations in 2013 to Kenya.

[last geyser]

They have

[quasi needle]

Do you want me to gift my my car to an Indian?

[inland hedge]

The removal (or attempt) of an ethnic group

[quasi needle]

What do I possess that’s been stolen due to colonial projects

No because my car wasn’t taken from an Indian

[inland hedge]

You fight a war, you win or lose a war, you don't slaughter an ethnicity

Those are 2 separate things you're confusing

[river token]

The other resources are natural, colonial exploitation is a very dark past of history. But just because it happened doesn't mean we can't move on and be more moral now.

[inland hedge]

??? Are you saying it was justified for the Nazis to genocide the jews because "they had their reasons"

[river token]

Marital r-pe was legal in the 80s, do we bring it back because moral code was different?

Slavery was, there weren't child marriage protection laws.

We bring it back? Because it was the moral code once.

I will reframe it, why are you singling out Israel Palestine from other atrocities and genocides? This makes me question your intentions.

[inland hedge]

If you search for justifications in literal human slaughter then you are no different than one to me mate

[river token]

How do you know what my intentions are on other conflicts of history?

Just because something happened in the past, doesn't mean it was moral and shouldn't be undid if it's possible.

[quasi needle]

Tut tut tut

You’re forgetting that the UK did in fact return its colonies

Because it should have and did

Why are they riddled with corruption

[river token]

How are both sides practising ethnocleansing? There's no ethnocleansing in the Muslim side where they argue israelis will not be given citizenship in Palestine or they've to leave just to make Palestine muslim.

[quasi needle]

They wrote their own constitutions

Their structures were self defined post independence

[river token]

We talked about this, a lot of land and monetary compensation happened. Systems were put in place. Scholarship grants, free healthcare, and sovereignty in tribal land provided.

[quasi needle]

Elaborate

[river token]

No such system was put in place for palestine.

[quasi needle]

Proposed

[inland hedge]

Against Hamas they would, do you think they attacked Hamas solely? Or did my eyes and ears lie to me when I heard Israelis justify the killing of children by implying they'd grow to be terrorists eitherway

[quasi needle]

The UK handed over the issue to the United Nations

The United Nations formalized the proposal

[river token]

Native american are also minority groups and cannot be given the full continent back. They aren't around to claim it, very unfortunately.

Such step hurdles aren't present in Palestine.

[quasi needle]

The Palestinians declined losing half their land

Israel was forcibly instated regardless

Then the conflict began

What do you mean “due to corruption”???

They quite blatantly outlined they refused losing half their land

There is no sideline argument there

[river token]

How so? Native Americans did resist and weren't complacent in their oppression. Follow King Philip’s War and Pontiac’s War please.

[inland hedge]

Then what are you arguing if you think they exceeded the amount of "retaliation" ?

1195 Israeli lives don't equate 73k+ Palestinians being purposefully slaughtered

[quasi needle]

I’m a rational leader and I support handing away all my fertile land to a foreign ethnostate

Are you hearing yourself

I support giving away my land because not doing so is irrational

[inland hedge]

Now one would argue regardless of the amount, it's human life indeed

The difference would be the motive

[quasi needle]

There was literally no deal

It was we’re the UN and we want a Jewish ethnostate so we’re putting it in your land

No it just didn’t

You’re lying now

Israel has the more fertile land

[river token]

Israel is not intending to give up west bank or Gaza either.

If you can't be civil, I digress, there is no point conversing with an uncivilized person.

They are compensated now, unlike Palestinians. Are you purposely acting daft?

Why would they have an incentive to resist when they're compensated and thriving as a community?

[quasi needle]

You own a house.

Your local council says a homeless man needs a house.

Do you let them take 55% of your house? Doing otherwise would be unwise.

[river token]

How so? When most of their infrastructure is bombed and land is war rubble.

[quasi needle]

I’m going to bed I forgot I have to take my car to the garage in 6 hours

[river token]

You're not a good person to converse to. Have a good day.

I didn't mean you, owen, by the way.

[grave merlin]

Hi guys im Randy Orton

Whoever wants an RKO can dm me

[river token]

You said stuff like Israelis treat palestinians better than Palestinians treat their own women. Why should Palestine give up the land it won in war, to agreeing it wasn't "moral code" (Not just by western standards, look at vietnam, indonesia). You also said my solution isn't practical but yours is very grounded in fiction of reality where Israel gives up the land it has claimed, and gives reparations to palestinians it won't even recognize. Maybe stops r-ping hostages, torturing kids and ethnonationalism and nazism.

[grave merlin]

Hi guys im Randy Orton

Whoever wants an RKO can dm me

[river token]

Let's not talk about "consistency" or practicality. It's a nothing burger when talking to a hypocrite.

I digress, have a good day.

Your solution was not giving Palestinians land as it wasn't for israel quite a lot of times. You deleted those hypocritical texts or I would've attached them here.

Again, why did you delete a bunch of your messages?

Because I would reference your hypocritical claims where many-a-times you said giving the land back was a safety concern.

That's very much 'practical'.

[high raven]

#🧠｜serious-chat message

[mint parrot]

What an energy you guys have

[river token]

Very practical when the president repeatedly claims there will be no Palestinian state.

[river token]

I wasted a lot of time talking into a void.

[quasi needle]

not one reasonable reason 😭

[river token]

I'll head out first...

[quasi needle]

Deleting messages doesn’t remove it from discord servers

[rotund urchin]

do they not feel bored ?
https://www.youtube.com/live/z-j1uxBmis0?si=F5zGaoZEOjkq6FY5

[river token]

Also you didn't reference any such system in alot of your israeli perspective opinion. But I'll digress. Although, I can ask for your mod logs if you want.

Maybe, once you might have but I would question the logistics of this "neutral" state has you emphasized on it as you say so yourself.

You're unreasonable, US is israel biased, why would it be called a neutral peacekeeping party

That's enough, have a good day.

They can, you might want to avoid using "neutral" then.

Call it as it is "Israel biased peace keeping third party".

US benefits from instability in the middle east.

U.S. often benefits from Middle East instability by driving high-volume arms sales to regional partners, boosting defense contractors like Lockheed Martin and Boeing. This instability keeps regional powers reliant on U.S. security, allows the U.S. to project power, and maintains a strategic, controlled presence to counter adversaries.

Copied from "Modern Diplomacy.eu"

[hidden lintel]

trump is callin me. should i answer?

[river token]

It's not really about economic gain but diplomatic gain. Do you have any idea why saudi arabia has signed multiple defense treaties with US? Or why UAE has signed security treaties/ties with the US? These countries aligning with US gives them advantage as these countries pump out a lot of oil and gas in dollar currency that supports petrodollar which is the biggest reason why US is the reserve currency globally.

So has Qatar, Kuwait, Oman, Bahrain on different scales.

Saudi Arabia attended a recent security/investment event called FII Priority Miami Summit 2026, which was based on military and investment in Latin America.

[river token]

This isn't related to the whole thing, but it is a portrayal of what strategic aligning is through military that can bleed onto economic gain.

That strengthens my point, they need instability to show their military prowess. And petrodollar is a huge reason of dollar being a reserve currency. Oil is the important global commodity.

You cannot deny it, as transport of any kind depends on oil or natural gas.

If the US doesn't care about petrodollar, why do they invade any country that tries to sell oil in yuan or other currencies? Happened in Libya, Iraq, Venezuela, and now Iran.

Also, the treaty with Saudi Arabia and US is over. Saudi Arabia doesn't have oil treaty with US anymore, but gas.

Read this: Reports indicate Saudi Arabia has held discussions with China about shifting some oil contracts to yuan, a move that could significantly decrease global reliance on the U.S. dollar.

You can look up petroyuan.

[turbid dome]

Getting ragebaited by sheen, rip

[river token]

Iran issue was spontaneous and a way to try to stop them from strengthening petroyuan which is rising as an alternative to petrodollar.

President Trump had made a show of promising the protestors, Iran was targeting Israel, and I would imagine they were tailing Khamenei for months to assassinate him in the bombing.

Trump administration also admitted it didn't think Iran would actually close the strait.

I have to actually go now, have a good day!!

[sharp light]

Hyy

[turbid dome]

True

[verbal drift]

What's a person

[fickle nest]

Heyy guyzz

[opal garnet]

Anyone wanna debate on any topic?

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[hidden shore]

Religion lets go

[wind zephyr]

U are Atheist

[opal garnet]

Sure!

[frozen cape]

😈

[hidden shore]

that’s wrong by calling me a atheist , because I don’t follow your guys god, i believe i am a god

[wind zephyr]

☠️

[wind zephyr]

Most of the people are Atheist in china

Around 18% follow buddhism ig

[dapper musk]

that is one day wich i woke up early 🥳

this is a greate time for study

[devout barn]

Interesting

are u free to talk about this?

[sweet wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/hotlinemiami-hurting-people-gif-15186007887595416676

[urban swift]

What are your qualitative attributes

[crisp zephyr]

So, are you planning to be the third brother of Jesus?

[neon sierra]

fuck this world

[covert iron]

Good spirit, fuck this world, don't let the world fuck u

[turbid dome]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2026-04-06/the-petrodollar-loop-supporting-the-treasury-market-is-broken

lmao

[crystal kayak]

so you read the treaty and this is your take.I knew it all white people are evil and they hide behind the Jews.

@turbid dome can you please read the trade treaty between Eu and Kenya and tell me who that treaty favours most

[turbid dome]

Is there a new one?

[crystal kayak]

I think it was signed in 2024

[turbid dome]

ok let me check

[turbid dome]

Holy shit it's 529 pages in English, I'm gonna find the EU summary LMAO https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ:L_202401648

[crystal kayak]

Now show the cost it comes

[turbid dome]

From:https://policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/news/key-elements-eu-kenya-economic-partnership-agreement-2023-06-19_en

"EU’s imports from Kenya are €1.2 billion and are mainly vegetables, fruits, and flowers. EU exports to Kenya amount to €1.7 billion and are mainly mineral products, chemical products, and machinery. The EU is Kenya's biggest export destination, with 16% of its total exports in 2023, followed by Uganda (9.5%) and the United States (8.7%)."

This is called unequal exchange, where raw materials and agricultural products are imported to the metropole from the periphery, and much more complicated goods are sold to the periphery. This is how surplus labor value is extracted.

"The EPA provides free access to the EU market by removing tariffs and quotas on all Kenyan exports of goods (except arms)"

This shows the intent on the EU side is to secure cheaper imports.

"Trade liberalisation will be asymmetrical. Kenya will open its market partially and very gradually to imports from the EU, taking account of the different levels of development." ALSO "The agreement allows dealing with unfair trade. It references and incorporates WTO law, which for example deals with dumping products at unreasonable low prices in the other party’s market. The inclusion of safeguards will also allow the EU and Kenya to reintroduce duties if a surge in imports from the other side disturbs or threatens to disturb their economies. Special safeguard conditions are envisaged to protect Kenyan infant industries (those that Kenya seeks to develop). Unjustified or discriminatory restrictions on imports and exports will also be banned."

The summary is lacking in clarity of what safeguard conditions these are, and if they're simply nominal or enforceable. Hard to say without dedicating a few hours to reading this.

(Running out of word count, gonna wwrite a few more things)

[turbid dome]

Point 2 is all about agriculture, it sounds like it will involve the EU improving the standard of Kenyan agriculture, so that it is fit for Europeans to import and eat safely. It mentions trade capacity building, clearly an attempt to increase Kenyan exports.

"The agreement includes a dedicated annex on Trade and Sustainable Development that covers labour, gender equality, as well as environmental and climate matters.
This includes the respect and promotion of the International Labour Organization's fundamental rights, and the implementation of UN standards and obligations to prevent gender discrimination and support women’s empowerment."

I doubt this shows any actual commitment to these things, western companies always lie about how things are created in decent conditions only for slavery to be revealed later on.

"The trade and sustainable development commitments are binding and enforceable. In case one of the two parties violates these commitments, the agreement envisages the possibility to trigger a specific dispute settlement mechanism. The dispute settlement mechanism also includes a so-called compliance stage, which means that the party found in violation of its trade and sustainable development commitments will have to promptly inform how it will implement the panel report and carry this out within a certain period of time. This will be subject to a panel review."

This is seemingly the enforcement mechanism.

"A chapter on economic and development cooperation aims at enhancing the competitiveness of the Kenyan economy by building supply capacity and assisting Kenya in implementing the EPA smoothly."

Keeps focusing on trade capacity building, which in my mind is euphemistic for increasing Kenyan exports.

In my opinion, this agreement is about the same colonial type of wealth extraction, as seen by the unequal exchange. It appears dressed up as a trade agreement but imo is about Kenya exporting it's raw materials to encourage the dependency cycle.

[turbid dome]

@crystal kayak

[turbid dome]

I'd recommend "Wretched of the Earth" by Frantz Fanon, recently got done reading it and it was quite good and described this sort of thing in it's infancy

[crystal kayak]

I will be honest we the current leaders we have they are not going to reintroduce duties if EU goods starts flooding Kenya

[crystal kayak]

All the EAC denied the treaty except for Kenya.We don't learn from previous mistakes and also in the treaty is "If Kenya offers a good trade deal to major countries like china and India,Eu will automatically receive the same deal."

[turbid dome]

Yeah eu website didn’t mention that but that’s obviously neocolonial

I mean, the major hint is the EU accepted it, if the EU is accepting the trade deal it’s to get the most for the EU at the expense of their former colonies

[crystal kayak]

Mind you we don't got nothing to do with Haiti,like the US,France and other Eu countries could have sent their police which are more well trained and have modern weapons

But who would send their people if they got a dumb African leader who is ready to sacrifice his own people to please them

[turbid dome]

Yeah idk why Kenya is involved in Haiti, maybe trying to show how loyal to the US Kenya is or something?

[turbid dome]

Idk

[crystal kayak]

This is what being loyal to the US brings you

[crystal kayak]

This is what the swedish wants us to be proud of

[opal garnet]

Anybody wanna debate on vc?

[crystal kayak]

Wtf happened to nana

[high rapids]

Good morning

[turbid dome]

Different nana

[hidden shore]

the Mongol used to conquer of Europe once and many people in Russia believed the invasion was God punishing them i think china will invade yall country, you guys will think it was punishment from God, this is qualitative attributes

[hidden shore]

@viral lintel make any sense?

[fervent oxide]

EU is what really needed to be dissolved

They are a threat of the United States

I’m not even joking

[hoary bronze]

No ❤️

[crystal kayak]

this channel never fails to make me laugh

[plain ruin]

Minecraft*

@fervent oxide, do you play any modpacks?

[crystal kayak]

Minecraft, olivander, mrsheen,denial and sometimes lillil

[plain ruin]

Olivander and Denial are trolling

Denial doesn't even say much anymore

[fervent oxide]

Minecraft?

[plain ruin]

Finally someone recognizes it

[plain ruin]

Yes

[fervent oxide]

Not now I’m addictive to LOL and a Chinese Tarkov called Arena Breakout

[plain ruin]

Oooo cool

[fervent oxide]

death is like a wind, always by my side - Yasuo

[plain ruin]

I thought you were more of a Briar person

[crystal kayak]

Dude I have been keeping tabs on the guy and dude is pretty weird

[plain ruin]

Delete your message referring to his name

[crystal kayak]

??

[plain ruin]

Delete rq

[plain ruin]

I feel like he's a Hindu larping as an atheist

[river token]

The sheen guy rage baited me into typing large paragraphs and at last, he didn't even get anything.

[plain ruin]

There's many of those types of Hindus online

[crystal kayak]

I thought so too but I asked and he said he is middle eastern

[plain ruin]

He's sent over a couple thousand messages here since August
All deleted

[plain ruin]

Bullshit, his ass is Indian

He's one of those Indians who uses "Where are you from?" as "Where were you born?"

I've spoken enough with him about India to know he's Indian

[river token]

So, he is a middle east citizen?

[plain ruin]

No

[river token]

And ethnically indian?

[plain ruin]

There's almost nowhere in the middle east that'll give you citizenship unless you're a bigshot

Royal Families are usually the ones who approve naturalization in the middle east

[plain ruin]

This, yes

Might be born in the middle east at the very most

[plain ruin]

There are more countries that DONT give Citizenship based on you being born there, than those that do give citizenship based on you being born there, by the way

[river token]

Oh. I think it's a common trait in migrants to associate from the land they've lived their whole life in. But if it was not that, then it's kind of funny.

[dapper musk]

Hello guys

Good morning

[crystal kayak]

I went to look for the message where he told me he is middle eastern can't seem to find it.I knew it he looked indian

[dapper musk]

I am from iraq and selat hormuz is The only way to transport oil in Iraq . now We are suffering from a gas and gasoline crisis، Wbu ?

[plain ruin]

I'm an ethnic Indian born in the Middle East myself and would rather be there right now during the war than here in India

I still wouldn't ever say I'm "from" there
People who do that use it as a status symbol/through misunderstanding rather than because of just association

And I'm talking about the upper middle class, by the way

[pseudo flume]

Zuzu is telling the truth

[crystal kayak]

Is he still in the server

[plain ruin]

He's told me many times

[river token]

We're suffering from oil prices, we share your pain. T^T

[pseudo flume]

@cerulean pivot your kind is acting up

[river token]

The guy we were talking to about palestine, some hours ago.

[frozen cape]

that's so unfair

[plain ruin]

3adi shabaab

[crystal kayak]

I believed him😭😭after he said he always gets mistaken for being indian but he is actually middle eastern.

[crystal kayak]

Is this a new character

[plain ruin]

Depends
Most of that don't give you citizenship on birth are usually dispersed throughout Asia and Africa so it's not a big deal

Or they're smaller countries that don't/cannot afford mass attempts at citizenship

[pseudo flume]

No, his kind are usually charectorless

[crystal kayak]

I told you not to engage with that guy,I didn't know it was mrsheen but I knew something was off about him

[plain ruin]

he was fucking with you

[dapper musk]

I didn’t ask for your opinion

So shut up

[crystal kayak]

He is nationality is based on how he feels like today he will act like he is from Zimbabwe and tomorrow maybe from America

[plain ruin]

I've got someone who say he's got family "from Israel" so

[crystal kayak]

And I see he is a little bit aggressive

[summer sphinx]

he was questioning the point of Ramadan and this guy thought he wasn't indian..

[plain ruin]

Why's this hindu talking

[crystal kayak]

Why is larping as an atheist.Dude had a problem with only islam no other religion that is when I started to suspect him

[frozen cape]

a country's citizenry should reflect its colonial or immigration history

[plain ruin]

I know how you spent your ramadan, I have screenshots and timestamps showing the sun was still up

[plain ruin]

he also has a problem with christians, he debates a lot about them too
never about hindus

[crystal kayak]

is it true

[river token]

You're more middle eastern than an ethnically middle eastern person in the states or europe. Of course someone's ethnicity is immutable, but nationality I feel is based on culture than our DNA. The languages, food, values and traditions people were brought up with and accept. I had a debate on this in my school seminar as well.

But, using it as a status symbol assigns an automatic inferior role to their own country which is weird.

[plain ruin]

sort of agree

[plain ruin]

I get your main point but most indians in the middle east dont actually get involved in any culture or know a decent enough amount of arabic to say that they're even culturally integrating

It's more of the latter, using it as a status symbol

[dapper musk]

🙄

[crystal kayak]

Why though?why does he have to act like an atheist to criticize other religions when he can still be Hindu and still debate christians and Muslims

Weird people

[dapper musk]

I am arabic bro 🙂

[plain ruin]

To not be able to give others the ability to use their religion in order to insult them

[plain ruin]

ya5i we aren't talking about you

[wispy sky]

Bruh? What have we done to yall

[river token]

Hmm?

[plain ruin]

We're not talking about you, you are a proud hindu

[pseudo flume]

Cry about it

[plain ruin]

We're talking about the many other hindus that pretend to be atheists

Atleast read a part of the conversation before getting involved

[wispy sky]

I keep religion in a very private manner and for me humanity over religion no matter what

[opal garnet]

anyone wanna debate?

[plain ruin]

That's fine, the point is that some hindus go on big rants, talking about how they think religions are oppressive, then when they're talking to hindus on the same server, they'll be proud hindus

[crystal kayak]

Is he Muslim

[plain ruin]

He claims to be

[dapper musk]

I thought you meant arabs

[wispy sky]

Ignore them tbh .. majority of them are filled with hatred and superiority complex tbh

[plain ruin]

Oh yeah, I'm just talking to this guy about these types of "hindus", he doesn't know about them

For his own awareness

[plain ruin]

Like he said @crystal kayak ^, Even the hindus are agree

[frozen cape]

EPIC

[summer sphinx]

Ai

[fervent oxide]

https://x.com/realjameswoods/status/2041173961678217529?s=46

James Woods (@RealJamesWoods)

X · Apr 6, 2026, 3:19 PM

Liberal America must be liberated by Republicans

[tawdry harness]

https://tenor.com/view/españa-republica-española-republica-tricolor-antifa-gif-23502215

[pseudo flume]

In the beningging

[uncut tiger]

stop bypassing slurs

[plain ruin]

Yo

[uncut tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-r63-catboy-catgirl-roblox-furry-gif-24571192

[plain ruin]

Revoking your visa dawg

[slender coral]

Having cybernetic implants would be so friggin cool if we become able to make such things.

[plain ruin]

If only it wasn't just something that only the US army can actively develop

[slender coral]

I want a sandevistan like the one in Cyberpunk Edgerunners.

[uncut tiger]

when u go to usa ask for asylum, tell them your family and u r in danger in your home country because you possess 'feminine traits'

[slender coral]

Much of army technology becomes available to civilian use after a while.

Wouldn't that happen with this too?

[plain ruin]

It would, it's just that it feels terrible that unlike the Internet for example, these types of technologies would be more actively developed in real fatal scenarios

[plain ruin]

I'd rather seek asylum in India saying I'm endangered in the US ngl

You would too 💀

[river token]

It's not safe to take your family to the US.

[uncut tiger]

arent you white, you gon be safe

[river token]

A Mexican woman enlisted in army and was sent to Iran. Right after, they deported her father to Mexico.

[plain ruin]

Bro I'm as dark as @crystal kayak's people

[uncut tiger]

im american (bad at geography) so idk what those flags in his name mean

[river token]

Sudan 🇸🇩 and Congo 🇨🇩

[uncut tiger]

goddamn

Shawn you a man of color

first man of color to get a job in networking

[plain ruin]

Say less bro

I'm going to convert to Judaism too, I'm already following Jewish financial advice

[wispy sky]

Ok we all are trying to leave india ... meanwhile you are coming to india

Ok this is interesting

[plain ruin]

It's a joke about how fucked the US itself is

There are a lot of better countries than both the US and India for safety etc.

[pseudo flume]

Nepal is better

[wispy sky]

I never said india is safe lol

China is safe

[pseudo flume]

Without Nobu*

[cerulean pivot]

Lol they just opened the gay of hurmoz for us yesterday

[wispy sky]

New zealand is safe

[pseudo flume]

To sell oil?

[cerulean pivot]

Yeah ig

[pseudo flume]

Why would y'all need oil

[pseudo flume]

Fair enough

[plain ruin]

I know, my point is that I believe India would be better than the US for Indians

[cerulean pivot]

I can't take him seriously lol

[plain ruin]

I was going to tell him to send me 12,503.56 more dollars

[pseudo flume]

How much does 1 L petrol costs in your sand ahh country

[plain ruin]

💔💔💔

[cerulean pivot]

Pray for me twins gotta do my most horrible academic performance in an hour

[wispy sky]

Bruh us and my country supports israel what do you expect

[cerulean pivot]

Even if y'all are atheists

[wispy sky]

We are just surviving here tbh

[pseudo flume]

Rabbi zidni ilma

[cerulean pivot]

Idk

[plain ruin]

Good luck my G

[plain ruin]

Remember when India actually tried to explain why the two state solution was a bad idea, showing how badly India's parition itself was? Lmao

[river token]

WHAT?

[sweet wolf]

I'm grignard-ing it

[river token]

Hormuz is opened for the US?

[plain ruin]

He might mean Iraq (He's Iraqi)

[sweet wolf]

Iraqi

[plain ruin]

@river token

[willow schooner]

[weary moss]

wsp gamers

[wispy sky]

Tbh oru whole agenda changed when government changed india is one of the first Countries to recognise palestine as a country

So we were atleast in the right side

Now it's just f up

[plain ruin]

Voter appeasement over overall meaning now

[uncut tiger]

Assalamualaikum warehmatullahi wabarakatuhu ahlan wasahlan

[verbal drift]

Who wants to debate me in a VC 1 on 1

[plain ruin]

Khyah

[wind zephyr]

Hm

[harsh pasture]

Hello

[thorny steeple]

What is the debate going to be about!?

[thorny steeple]

Hey

[harsh pasture]

Hello

[thorny steeple]

Haha. You already said that.

[verbal drift]

Islam Vs Christianity

[harsh pasture]

Ok

[harsh pasture]

Hey

[thorny steeple]

Whats the debate about?

Arent they just two differsnt religions so two different viewpoints or perspectives allowing people to view history differently.

So is it that islam has to find another religion to debate and find its own position? I think thr religion is steong enough to find its own foundafions and stand strong by itself.

[plain ruin]

His debates are about which morals are better

[harsh pasture]

Hi

[thorny steeple]

Hello

[thorny steeple]

Morals are all good, otherwise they would be immoral, right.

[harsh pasture]

Where u from

[thorny steeple]

Atlantis

[harsh pasture]

Ok

Can we be friends

[thorny steeple]

What about you!?

[harsh pasture]

California

[thorny steeple]

This is the serious chat.

Maybe you would like to move to the beginner chat. Peoppe would be more engaging there.

[cerulean pivot]

Wallahi your prayers didn't even reach the roof

Or u prayed for my downfall

[high rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/eastern-front-ussr-ww2-germany-ww2-soviet-union-gif-11321007713213691636

[uncut tiger]

strait outta hormuz

[slender coral]

What the fuck dude

Fuck those people and their religion.

Wdym?

[wind zephyr]

It's also mentioned a church

So I am confused

[slender coral]

Idk I don't get what you are saying.

[wind zephyr]

Nvm

Marriage of 13 year old 💀

[river token]

The guy is allegedly between 30 or 40.

[dire cove]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-cat-confused-math-aint-mathing-huh-cat-gif-883992111571860857

[crystal kayak]

How old is the husband😭

[river token]

30!!

[thorny steeple]

Damn

Such a big brain marriage

And the call people pedrofiles in america

Put shariya law in america

[crystal kayak]

Look at this,she is a kid that is getting groomed and manipulated.The judge and all the people involved should be arrested

[crystal kayak]

Brother your from India you guys are no different from Pakistan😭😭

[river token]

Yeah! It's just so predatory. They kidnapped the poor girl and converted her and probably are forcing her to say all these things.

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[whole dock]

Hey everyone
Good morning
How are you?
Text me DM

[fresh flower]

This what the atheists here support

[summer sphinx]

bet

[crystal kayak]

Dude aren't you Muslim

[fresh flower]

No

[summer sphinx]

I'm an online psychologist bro dw

[dapper musk]

Hello again

[river token]

What atheist supports religious laws?

[crystal kayak]

Poor kid,is the judge even educated like you can't forcefully convert someone especially a kid.The parents should just buy rifle and end this

[crystal kayak]

Well he claims to be

[summer sphinx]

I'm don't listen to that yahud

[crystal kayak]

I saw the pic that was sent earlier in the morning about you

Haraaaaaam

[fresh flower]

He's as Muslim as Minecraft is white

[summer sphinx]

that was Ai bro this is how they try to defame me

[plain ruin]

I've got a better shot believing Minecraft is american than Carpe being Muslim

[fresh flower]

Several here do, they'd rather want Lebanon to become a shia controlled country due to their opposition to Israel rather than a Christian one (Which it started out as) with a secular state

[river token]

I would kidnap my kid back and be on the run. 😭🙏🏻

[whole dock]

Dm

[crystal kayak]

Please explain this.

[river token]

Isn't atheistic position calling for a secular state than a religiously controlled one?

[wind zephyr]

Read the document

[fresh flower]

If you count someone who doesn't fast, doesn't pray, only talks to girls, as Muslim then yes he's Muslim

[crystal kayak]

Yeah this is a better idea but ending the enemy is much better than running

[summer sphinx]

she might be in need of help bro gotta look out for my brothers and my brother's sisters yk

[summer sphinx]

teehehe

[fresh flower]

Not when it comes to this, at least by some in this channel. They'd rather oppose it being a Christian state (Of which 99% turn secular) because it opposes Zionism through Islamic resistance

[crystal kayak]

Is he an atheist or a hindu

[fresh flower]

The minorities are irrelevant

[summer sphinx]

that's u

[fresh flower]

You know the Muslims who ditch their religion the moment they move to Europe or US?

[river token]

If they harassed my kid or like put their hands on my kid, I would be more in favor of that. If not, I can just take them and flee the freaking country.

This society is so evil, how can an adult see a child and think of him/her romantically. Beyond comprehension.