🧠｜serious-chat

[feral river]

again I have no empathy on my phone

you have that shit okay

[fierce plover]

I already explained it, the lack of empathy its ur problem, and u should see a psychologist

[mortal nova]

It's awful and I'm terrified of all that you said

[feral river]

I'm the superior species called human, I have the absolute power to do whatever I want on our properties

[pallid pike]

i cant think that we are a superior being wen we are destroying all the conditions we have to live in earth

[feral river]

ofc I can kill them whenever I want

lmfao

check that in here

[fierce plover]

Japanese soldiers had the right to kill and rape Chinese people because they were superior to you

[feral river]

"under my local administration"

[pallid pike]

here in brazil, harm animals are crime

[feral river]

they are losers and back to their land and making anime to satisfy us

[uncut tiger]

can I become rich by studying hard in college and working hard in life

[pallid pike]

no

[fierce plover]

LMFAO

[feral river]

with 2 big holes of fukushima and nagasaki ?

LMFAO

[uncut tiger]

what color is your college degree?

[mortal nova]

Your country was nothing without USSR and USA

[fierce plover]

Daddy America carrying yes we know that

[feral river]

loser of the history doesn't deserve to talk by me

oh cool thanks for correcting that

[uncut tiger]

the winner writes the history

[pallid pike]

i dunno we dont have colors for that here

[uncut tiger]

you dont even have that there

[pallid pike]

guys calm down

[fierce plover]

USA and USSR carried

[feral river]

cool, and we are the second most powerful country on earth now

[uncut tiger]

thats why i said that the winners write history

[feral river]

well done west

[uncut tiger]

comeback

[feral river]

I must be thankful to the west which achieve all of this for us

thank you again America

🇺🇸

[uncut tiger]

arent you supposed to compete with them lol

[mortal nova]

Even now this "superpower" (China) can't do anything to USA. They portrayed themselves as an independent superpower, but ended up lost with Trump's tariffs

[fierce plover]

yeah, with a GDP per capita of $15,000, with huge unemployment and a lot of people living like beggars

We believe u lil bro

[feral river]

not my shit I'm a middle class

who cares

[fierce plover]

[feral river]

that's bullshit verified

fake news

[uncut tiger]

But China is better than Nepal in many ways

I love china

🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇨🇳

[mortal nova]

China. Not this Chinese madman

[feral river]

who lost lmfao

America did a negotiation with us

who lost lmfao 🤣

who the heck lost in the tariff war dude

[pallid pike]

Mao would be sad with this man talk about those shit

[mortal nova]

Only when China begged for it

[feral river]

omfg that was funny dude

bud literally saying "we are lost" after America made a deal with us

[fierce plover]

oh, i've never even heard of this, but i came across a guy on chat roulette, from china who moved to russia to work as a loader in a warehouse in Ozone (it's like a russian amazon), because in china he lived like a beggar

[feral river]

and they approach us first

[mortal nova]

They are not

[feral river]

and they removed some of our tariffs, removed restriction on certain tech and other shit

oh crap we actually lost because we got these ?

omfg that was crazy

oh dude

[fierce plover]

Who actually cares when ur ppl lives in a shit conditions

[feral river]

what the fuck ever you say

[mortal nova]

The only crazy thing here is only about you. You sick

[feral river]

we are the first country retaliated against them the fuck back and bud is saying oh we are begging that shit

lmfao dude that's totally F and stupid

[mortal nova]

Keep telling us Chinese propaganda. Maybe it will come true one day, but definitely not now

[feral river]

cool why don't you say they ran to Tibet and beg the Tibetian god

then get free from the Trump's tariff

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

one of the funniest joke ever heard in this month

I must relax can't hold my belly you are making all fun out of this

omg that's enough oh shit

[fierce plover]

Defensive reaction

[mortal nova]

You are a fucking psychopath

[feral river]

🤣

can't hold my belly really guys

my body count is over 5

😂

[pallid pike]

you talk like those same western man you criticise, be better man

[feral river]

oh I just got a package of groceries by spending 2 USD today

thanks for informing me to eat some of it

[feral river]

do you think you have to be better with a bunch of asshs who keeps harrassing you ?

[next marsh]

@light girder How often do you and Minecraft go at it 😭

[feral river]

I don't I always come back

[mortal nova]

HARRASMENT??? REALLY?

[pallid pike]

is there anyone harassing you here before all that?

[feral river]

somebody turned this argument to harrassment obviously

scroll up if you wanted to

[mortal nova]

Where are you from?

[fierce plover]

Where are u from

[feral river]

he's from the Tibet Autonomous Region of the People's Republic of China 🇨🇳

[manic juniper]

Why are these people so hostile to Minecraft_652

[mortal nova]

Because he is psycho

[feral river]

lmfao

[pallid pike]

lmao

[feral river]

that was a lie I never killed a cat

[manic juniper]

Doesn't he own cats

[feral river]

I own 8 cats buddy

in my parents' home

[manic juniper]

No unless the cat thing is true and not an exaggeration

[feral river]

not in my home lol

[pallid pike]

could we just be chill, make peace ourselfs, forget those shit and talk like normal people?

[feral river]

no white/black cat is allowed to enter my home

that's the law under enforcement in my home

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-true-facts-well-well-well-gif-8782214195066290816

[formal pilot]

I disagree

[uncut tiger]

can you tell me more abt it

[feral river]

if any of white/black cat ever enter my home I hold the right to execute them immediately

[mortal nova]

He is from Tibet

There is nothing to talk about

[uncut tiger]

he who

[mortal nova]

Ahalya

[feral river]

Tibet Autonomous Region of the People's Republic of China 🇨🇳

and he's from China

because Tibet doesn't exist

[pallid pike]

wow

[uncut tiger]

ahalya is a guy

[mortal nova]

You know, you don't have to repeat it, I know geography. It's autonomous region as you said, then he has a full right to tell that he is from Tibet

[uncut tiger]

isnt tibet a part of china

thats what google says

[mortal nova]

It is

[feral river]

yeah we own this region

[manic juniper]

As it should be. These cats should learn about the NAP

[next marsh]

Oh, I think I read about that somewhere, I haven't delved into it though. I think it's formally called "Debt-Trap Diplomacy"? Where they give out loans to fragile nations with potentially incompetent governments that are unable to lay out proper initiatives to pay off the debt, which then forces them to give up assets such as land

[uncut tiger]

then whats the controversy

[uncut tiger]

are you talking about me lol

[mortal nova]

There is no controversy. He said "Tibet Autonomous Region of the People's Republic of China". Got it? AUTONOMOUS

We talked about humanism, not about politics

[manic juniper]

If he intends to eat them there is nothing wrong with that

[feral river]

and they hold 0 antonomy it's totally under our central government of the Chinese Communist Party

[manic juniper]

Domestic animals are property

[pallid pike]

about tibet he is right, but this cat thing is crazy man

[feral river]

cat is just a property you can do anything you want

[mortal nova]

Sickle and Hammer = Starve and Death

[uncut tiger]

can you tell me the name of this topic i wanna search about it

[feral river]

our human is the superior species

[manic juniper]

In Australia they use cats to create souvenirs

[mortal nova]

Mao is an evidence

[pallid pike]

like the aristocracy of tibet do with who cant hold the work? seems like you guys just take everything bad that happens to you and do it in an animal

[feral river]

no ?

[next marsh]

Oh, it's Tibet. Nvm the above, I was blaffing

[feral river]

what are you talking about exactly I didn't get it

[pallid pike]

im saying that this cat thing is bad, dont do this

[feral river]

what do whatever I want to my cat but there's no point to kill them or torture them

[mortal nova]

That what we talked about before political discussions started

[feral river]

they are my cat, my property I have the right to decide what their life would be

also I would be responsible for all of it and I love my cats

[mortal nova]

That's better

[feral river]

that doesn't mean I can't kill them, actually I can anytime to kill them but I don't have to

that's the difference

[pallid pike]

but the thing with the black cats, maybe rethink about it, its just a color

[mortal nova]

No you can't. Being human is not about the decision like "Live or Die"

[feral river]

I can

I have the power to do anything I was entitled and that was totally legal

[manic juniper]

If he intends to do that to consume them then it's not bad

[feral river]

you can drop your phone to the trash can ofc

[manic juniper]

People do the same with any farm animal

[feral river]

same logic to what I can do to my cat

[manic juniper]

He has ownership over the cat

[uncut tiger]

but i also kill my pet goats for meat

[feral river]

I'm and cat is my property

lmfao

cat is my property ass

[mortal nova]

I thought u r a buddhist

[pallid pike]

guys, i think that is a discussion with no end, just some cultural thing that we cannot doo much about it now

[feral river]

our superior human species are powerful to decide their life

we are the only true superior species on the earth

[manic juniper]

I hope you have the same outrage for people who kill their own domestic animals

Their farm animals

[feral river]

we will have another war on birds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_campaign

kill all of the rats, flies, mosquitoes and sparrows!

[manic juniper]

Not again, it didn't go well the last time

[mortal nova]

It's not about it. He means that he can kill them just because he can. Not because of food or anything. Just because he can

[manic juniper]

Maybe it's legal in China

They are domesticated, and they can be domestic

A cat can be a farm animal as well

[feral river]

Regarding to the issue of how long we are gonna fight this war, we can't give a conclusion right now, that means if they want to continue this war, we will continue to fight, until we achieve complete victory - Mao zedong's address on the situation of Korean war

[manic juniper]

These aren't strict or exclusive categories

[uncut tiger]

this is what i say to vegans but they get offended

[mortal nova]

If in China will be passed a law that allow you to kill people, would you kill a human?

[manic juniper]

Depends on what they do

[feral river]

they don't

[manic juniper]

Same as cats or any other animal

If I could hunt American beavers in my home country I would completely extirpate them

I already destroy their dams because it's legal to do so

[pallid pike]

here we have a saying that says "If my mother have wings, her could fly", maybe you go to far with that assumption lmao

[next marsh]

I have surprisingly never heard of that before. My awareness of historical political issues is subpar 😭
Thank you for the comprehensive context! I'll dig into it further on Wikipedia

[feral river]

the only way to revive the nation is to ruthlessly crack down the enemy from inside

[manic juniper]

No death is painless, and why can't these two things overlap with one another

Especially if you treat those farm animals well then you'd have to kill them too to fulfill their purpose

[mortal nova]

They say that they would kill if they can. If they can. Not because they have to or whatever. Only if they can and if they want

[manic juniper]

If you were allowed to kill someone who you know he 100% is a serial killer would you do it or not

[feral river]

generate more pain doesn't have any impact to your food on the table

[manic juniper]

It does, meat is lower quality because of the stress

[feral river]

so why we are doing a more expensive way

[manic juniper]

It tastes better

[feral river]

the stress of being killed for that while ?

[uncut tiger]

what about chop head off in a millisecond

or a bullet directly in the brain

[mortal nova]

No. I wouldn't kill him. The only true way is to punish him. Countries has a LAW. You know that thing that not allowing you to kill anybody

[manic juniper]

Yes even for a short moment if it's in high quantity it will lower the quality

[feral river]

just that while would make the meat untasty ? I don't think so

[manic juniper]

Not bad

[pallid pike]

i think the parallel is like , we can have a pig that is my pet, but i can kill him anytime, im not saying that is right, but is the way work on their country

[manic juniper]

Yes, I asked because you mentioned a scenario where killing is legal

[feral river]

humm no we eat their heads

the head can be consumed btw

[uncut tiger]

you eat cat heads?

[feral river]

nah I mean other heads of the animal like chicken, cow and sheep

[uncut tiger]

ive tried cow heads goat heads sheep heads, but not this

[manic juniper]

I would, but without much hate or any at all

I just think it's better if more people are safe

[pallid pike]

and thats its a cultural shock guys

[winter echo]

With pleasure

[feral river]

well why don't we cook them when they are alive

to make sure they are 100% fresh

[manic juniper]

Bad

[mortal nova]

Countries has a LAW and people to judge and punish killers and other people who break the law

[feral river]

even some seafood was consumed when they are still alive

[manic juniper]

Yes but what's the difference between a law enforcer and a civilian? They carry a licence to kill

[feral river]

and that was fresh as fuck I ever ate an alive fish

but not so tasty to be honest

[manic juniper]

If the licence is extended to everyone then you are free to do so within the limits of the law

[winter echo]

Do chinese really eat cockroaches?

[manic juniper]

I wouldn't like for such a thing to exist, but if it existed then I would adapt

[feral river]

in the South China especially the Canton region yes

I heard they make cockroaches meal delicious as fuck

even it was disgusting if they appear in some corner in the real life

and they are high-protein food

[winter echo]

If the continue living they'll just keep killing innocent people serial killers can't be rehabilitated

[high raven]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-gosling-reading-blade-runner-gosling-search-ryan-gif-1080068411954777847

[mortal nova]

Lynching has never been a good thing. The people's court never has evidence, only a vague opinion about the defendant, and in the people's court the one who shouts loudest is right

[manic juniper]

I agree

[manic juniper]

Doing so with pleasure makes you the same as them

[next marsh]

It's more about morality rather than the quality of the food. Lower stress levels could also affect the quality of the meat for the better, as somebody already pointed out in the chat.
I am not against eating meat, but the conditions in which livestock are raised could be significantly improved without drastic increases in processing costs

[winter echo]

Have you eat it?

[feral river]

⚖️ 🚫 🔫 🟰 🧻

[next marsh]

??

[feral river]

got it ?

come on

[winter echo]

The pleasure is from removing harm from the society nothing more nothing less

[feral river]

LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER

[high raven]

It isn't as bad as you think it is

[mortal nova]

Just an excuse. Nothing more

[high raven]

Roasted or fried insects are just crunchy, with the taste of the seasoning

[manic juniper]

They also feel pleasure from the act, you're just feeling it from a different source but the outcome is the same

[winter echo]

It just look disgusting in my eyes

[manic juniper]

It's why law enforcers I'm certain countries are usually trained to not use their rights in an harmful way and when it's not needed

[high raven]

I understand that, but it's fun to challenge your palate

[next marsh]

There's actually nothing wrong with eating insects as long as they are cooked, it's just peculiar

[high raven]

I think everyone should be trying "weird" food

[next marsh]

That said, I never tried them 😭

Cats are supposedly domesticated

[torn flame]

Who wants to study for ielts with me? i need a study buddy

[feral river]

I don't have to but I can do that

pets are my properties

like my phone

[winter echo]

You made an argument I can't easily refute

[manic juniper]

In Mongolia they used to eat horses who got injured beyond recovery

Many of these horses were the favourites of their riders

[feral river]

they are in terms of status

[next marsh]

They are domesticated animals, and the amount of nutrition you'd get from your OWN pet cat isn't worth it whatsoever 😭

[feral river]

and I have the power to do anything on them

the ultimate power that makes me the ultimate supreme leader above them

[pallid pike]

noooo stop talk about this i can hadle anymoooore

[manic juniper]

Farm animals are domestic too

[feral river]

I rule them, I love them, and I can kill them

[winter echo]

They must be sick the mongolians

[next marsh]

Oh, you're right. I overlooked the fact that domesticated animals include livestock and working animals too. Thanks for pointing that out!

[manic juniper]

I don't think it is, cannibalism is just about eating your own, most people don't see pets as their own

I for one don't, animals are all different from one another

[high raven]

This is why most farmers don't name their cows

[manic juniper]

My grandparents named their reindeers

Sometimes one of them would disappear around New Year

And I would have reindeer on New Year

[high raven]

Were they Sámi?

[manic juniper]

No they're just Kvens

I've never heard of those terms before ngl

[feral river]

you can do that if you are the Supreme Leader

as I'm the Supreme Leader of my home affairs that include several properties called cat

[manic juniper]

I think it's bad, and another reason why people have even less respect for wildlife at this point

[pallid pike]

lets make a commite to discuss that

[manic juniper]

We are too used to owning animals, they are seen as property or infantilised and seen as family

[misty rain]

Agree

[winter echo]

I don't agree with that

[manic juniper]

I didn't make them property, our ancestors did

They created and domesticated them

I don't want any pet because i don't think humans should see other animals as their own or degrade them to mere entertainment

[feral river]

they simply are our properties

our human is the only true superior species in the world

[next marsh]

I wouldn't call them property, it's more of a symbiotic relationship

[feral river]

we own everything

[manic juniper]

Seeing yourself as their guardian is a bit patronising

[winter echo]

Or you just can't take care of them?

[feral river]

they are properties

they are indeed properties and they hold 0 power that is able to fight against us

we can use anything to rule their life, control their source of water and food

if we want we can cut them the fuck off

[winter echo]

Give and take

[manic juniper]

It's a strange relationship

[next marsh]

Our ancestors have domesticated them for purposes such as hunting, protection, scouting, and the list goes on. In return, they get food and shelter

[manic juniper]

No, I volunteer to rehabilitate animals so I could easily take care of many birds

I used to live with a chicken and a magpie that couldn't be rehabilitated

[manic juniper]

They were engineered by us to be living tools

[high raven]

Not once did I ever think of eating my old German shepherd

[feral river]

yeah I can do that and I can do the opposite of that

[winter echo]

I'm talking about animals like cats and dogs

[high raven]

It's odd that some would do so

[feral river]

I can kill them I hold the power to do that

[manic juniper]

I don't like those

I never took care of those, and I don't know if I could

[winter echo]

Do you have something against pets by chance?

[feral river]

cut off their supplies

use sticks to kill each one of them

[manic juniper]

Kids weren't engineered to depend on us, we are almost the same because we are the same species. It's weird to do that with another animal, it would be much better if we didn't waste any resources on them and enjoyed wild animals only

[winter echo]

Cats are my favorite

[manic juniper]

I didn't say the relationship needs to be perfect, because I don't think it can be by design

[feral river]

I don't have to do that but that doesn't mean I can't do that

I can do anything I want to my cat

[winter echo]

I'll Soon report you for animals abuse

[feral river]

they are my properties under my absolute power

[feral river]

do that we don't have such law protect animals

nobody gives a fuck

[manic juniper]

It's much better if all of that was devoted to other people, since we are the same and the relationship would be symmetrical

[winter echo]

Are you from china by the way?

[manic juniper]

Some people can only get that from a therapy animal, but those are a minority

[winter echo]

I read about certain people that eats everything they, make siberian tigers nearly go extinct

[manic juniper]

It does, we can't communicate 1:1 with them, not even close. We separated millions of years ago so our needs and interactions differ.

And no I don't think we are special compared to other animals, if we are then all animals are special if compared to any other animals. I think that's an anthropocentric view of the world. I don't think other animals are paragon of good and that we are that much smarter than some of them are

[winter echo]

Only animals can give unconditional love

[feral river]

human is the most powerful species in the world, indeed the superior species

we rule over everything by our power that invented guns, and nukes

we rule the world

we own everything

all other low class species either choose to be enslaved or being eliminated by human

[winter echo]

Apex predators

[night cedar]

Dang

[feral river]

he gonna tell you some glitched Chinese history I bet

[winter echo]

Tell us about zenbou island

[prisma garden]

Lorem ipsum

[feral river]

the place where we fight against Soviets ?

[winter echo]

Yeah

[feral river]

it's armed clash obviously but that's not a war

[winter echo]

I'll say it's a limited war

[sage snow]

who was the 1st gay king

[coral belfry]

Australians lost a war against Emus

[next marsh]

Humans are conscious of affection, although the extent of that may differ from one individual to another. While the relationship is certainly built upon them being "tools" for attaining basic survival needs in return—and this is particularly true for livestock and working animals—it doesn't hinder bonding.

For instance, pets are perceived as family by lots of people, animals used for transportation were often loved dearly by their owners, and farmers tended to care about their livestock's welfare to give them a fulfilling life (even if they were motivated by ensuring food security)

If we were to go by that viewpoint, then every connection we make is engineered to be a living tool of some sort, even among ourselves. All interpersonal relationships have an underlying mutual exchange component to give them significance, which may be comfort, a shared goal, finances, etc. Otherwise, they are pointless. I'd say our symbiotic relationships are no different

[manic juniper]

No, we didn't create other people to be living tools

[prisma cipher]

Siberian tigers are dying out because of poachers. But also because significant change of food supply in Siberian foresets

[manic juniper]

It would be true if it was, but no race of people out there were created to carry weights, to be eaten, to be therapy animals

[prisma cipher]

It tendency for big predators to extinguish

[winter echo]

How is the effort to bring their back going?

[prisma cipher]

Pretty good

[next marsh]

I am specifically referring to the connections we synthesize, not the entities we form connections with per se

[prisma cipher]

In the distant past, cave bears, huge cave lions, woolly rhinoceroses and mammoths lived on our territory, it was a kind of Africa 100 thousand years ago

[winter echo]

I've read about siberian tiger's, is it true that countless people lost their lives to them in sabalonye I don't remember the name

[prisma cipher]

No idea what sabalonye mean

[winter echo]

I don't remember the name but it's somewhere where the tigers are found

[next marsh]

I am also not referring to the use of animals by sheer force, but the inherent tendency of some animals to create give-and-take bonds with humans

[manic juniper]

Then we are not referring to the same thing, they are living tools because of their morphology not because of any other reason

[prisma cipher]

My favorite predator among Russian animals is this mountain thing. You meet it you get killed. Not so big but super dangerous https://youtu.be/2XDqs1vPVT0?si=e7s5c2B2NFZvURYQ

[winter echo]

Is it as badass as the siberian tigers?

[prisma cipher]

It not that big, but you can't run from it

It nowhere to hide from him

[winter echo]

Tell more about him

[prisma cipher]

https://youtu.be/JTlveCrymV8?si=_rhlBve0xgd-D4Bw lol in English it snow leopard, we call it bars, or snow bars

[turbid dome]

But have you considered:

I am human.

I cannot be bad.

I own an animal slave. And treat it well.

I cannot think of myself as bad therefore I am good and everything I do is justified.

[turbid dome]

Shouldn’t need to be said I’m joking

[manic juniper]

No, if you scroll up you'll find out that we are specially bad and our pets are not, and thus this specially bad animal needs to be in charge of the good pets

[turbid dome]

This is the same logic behind

“The US constantly invading other countries is simply a mistake and the US really cares about democracy”

[turbid dome]

We are the most evil and powerful therefore we are good

[manic juniper]

Animals looking cuter despite the impact to their well-being is good because it improves the bond and relatability they have with us

[turbid dome]

“If they’re cute we can enslave them”

Unironically the pro-concubine position

[next marsh]

Domestic animals, especially pets, are not enslaved. There is no element of force involved whatsoever unless you refer to unethical breeding, lack of free range and similar issues. Enslaving animals is totally unjustifiable and immoral for anybody with a moral compass. For instance, many of us consume meat and feel quite guilty about it because of welfare standards and poor environmental conditions, some may opt for more ethical production sources, and others totally refrain from eating it. Only those who are insane would justify the mistreatment or enslaving of animals

[deft bear]

Hi everyone

[fresh flower]

Hello bro

[deft bear]

Who is very good at politics and diplomatic

[fresh flower]

Me

After that it's my serf @feral river

[deft bear]

I have a question to ask it but privately

[fresh flower]

Ask here bro don't be shy

We won't bite

[deft bear]

Sorry but I wanna it privately

So can I ask u

[turbid dome]

What is your definition of slavery

[chilly cedar]

@fresh flower Accept my friend request for you

[fresh flower]

Wtf

I already did, why do you want me to add you on two separate accounts?💀💀💀

Bro's doing something sus

[chilly cedar]

No because I have had a technical problem

[fresh flower]

Nah bro fuck outta here 😭

[chilly cedar]

This account is the official one

[high raven]

Smartest scamming attempt

[chilly cedar]

With me?

[next marsh]

Viewing and treating an individual as nothing but mere property? While neglecting their welfare and underproviding their basic necessities

[thorny steeple]

109685th attempt

[manic juniper]

Is it ok if I buy a slave but treat her well

[next marsh]

As well as forcing them into becoming property, with no ability whatsoever to move on or opt out regardless of their interest

[manic juniper]

Can pets opt out of their condition

[chilly cedar]

I swear I am not a bad person or a scammer

[turbid dome]

Yeah I’m going to disagree with this as it would allow chattel slavery to not be slavery if slaves were well fed and viewed well while still being property.

I would say a more accurate definition would be being owned by, or effectively being owned by someone else, whether a person or entity.

[chilly cedar]

I just want someone who is better in politics and diplomatics to discuss with him privately a subject wich is personal for me

[next marsh]

It's not okay, and I can see your point. In the case of animals, however, I really think it's fundamentally based on symbiosis.
Dogs are a prime example of what I am trying to convey. They are incredibly friendly with humans, and they have evolved that way. A decent number of dogs would prefer to remain with their owners rather than being in absolute freedom. For some other animals, such as wild cats that are forced to become household pets, this is not okay

[manic juniper]

I don't want freedom for those dogs, they unfortunately were created solely to depend on us. I don't think they should exist

[chilly cedar]

Are you Arabian because I see in your Bio a writtings in arabic

[manic juniper]

Would you be ok if they created people for the sole purpose of making other people happy, and those people cannot exist on their own or choose their lives (ever)

Because it's 100% possible to do that, in fact we already have such people (however they weren't created like dogs and other domestic animals)

[chilly cedar]

Hey Everyone I am a new person on this server (and also in Discord) so can someone help me to know how this chat works

[manic juniper]

Basically you mash those symbols on your phone or computer then you mash the arrow on the right and you send the symbols on this place, people can send their own strings of symbols

[chilly cedar]

By the way I don't know why it is inactive just 4 or 5 people talking

[chilly cedar]

I work with both of them, but for the moment with the phone

[manic juniper]

Why do you work on your phone

Are you an influencer

[chilly cedar]

No I am not a influencer

[thorny steeple]

In this economy who even works on a phone!?

[next marsh]

If you are referring to selective breeding, then I must say I really like your take on this because it's quite a refutable argument lol, at least in my case since I haven't read up much on it to really delve into it

[chilly cedar]

But what kind of work

need laptop or computer

[thorny steeple]

Then work man

[next marsh]

But as animals concurrently living among us, I still wouldn't refer to owning a pet as enslavement. Even though their origin remains the result of captivation and unethical trait optimization

[chilly cedar]

I didn't understand

This chat is inactive

[manic juniper]

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.230463
Doesn't really say much about the effects of brain size, but this shows what radical effects domestication has and how even feral animals differ a lot from domestic counterparts despite being the same modern population

[chilly cedar]

I want to say something: my English is bad so if I had do a mistake please require it

Hey why while I am writing this messages you all keep continuing discussing a other topics

[next marsh]

And I absolutely agree with your definition! You have eloquently put it far better than I did. Slaves could indeed be well-fed and treated on par with the norm, but that wouldn't justify slavery. In fact, it's a worse perspective to hold. What I have been trying to emphasize in the context of animals is the symbiotic nature of the bonds we share with them, and that it shouldn't be viewed as slavery

[chilly cedar]

Hey why are you all keeping ignoring me

[next marsh]

And thanks for citing a credible source on this! I'll definitely dig into it :)

[chilly cedar]

Hey

Now the chat will be in a deep silence

[manic juniper]

You're welcome

[chilly cedar]

Hey I want talk to you

Don't ignore me

why this chat is so complex

[manic juniper]

Why

[turbid dome]

They have the best scams

[chilly cedar]

I don't understand why guys are you keeping discussing while I talk

[chilly cedar]

With me?

Can someone said to me the rules of a conversation because I don't know how to talk in this chat and I way that can let you guys answer me

I want be a friend for all I don't have many virtual friends

[ionic merlin]

This chat is intended for serious discussions and educational content. Please refrain from indirect or direct insults, demeaning expressions, and ad hominem attacks. For constructive and respectful conversations, avoid unfounded labeling and inappropriate remarks

.
but @manic juniper for example (among others but because he is here now, he is a good example) does not follow those rules so you may do more or less as you please.

[manic juniper]

Said by the guy who's racist towards Chinese people

[turbid dome]

Rules are for everyone else

[manic juniper]

True, and even then half the users here are racist towards Chinese people, they are just looking for an excuse to express their racism in an "acceptable" way

[high raven]

I'd like to not follow the rules as well, but I don't hold a gun 😦

[turbid dome]

Yup

[turbid dome]

Pretend you hold a gun

Until you get a gun

[thorny steeple]

Welcome to not the USA

[coral belfry]

even if you have a gun, you don't have the superior fire power

[turbid dome]

If you shoot first

[manic juniper]

The right way of propagandising reptile superiority to mammals

[turbid dome]

Yup

[thorny steeple]

Fr those slick reptiles are too superior

[fresh flower]

Is he here

[olive herald]

https://tenor.com/view/peru-rena-higurashi-latam-venezuela-gif-1808833324340294254

[ionic merlin]

so i got myself a non-scientific way to prove that earth is not flat.
three lines on paper and inter-city distances....

or are they going to say paper doesnt exist?

[unreal pier]

That's geometry. Also a science. No?

[ionic merlin]

yes, it is . but you dnt want to tell them that

[upbeat socket]

You should make it scientific though, remember in facts vs disinformation & misinformation, they can't disprove a proven research, and can't make researcher de-exist

There is insourmountable flow of people who wants the intelligent ppl to come out to prove they're wrong.

You have to tell them the truth, scientifically

[ionic merlin]

and i am going to stick to three straight lines and three circles.
reckon they are going to say lines and circles dont exist?

[ionic merlin]

yes, but they keep dismissing anything belonging to advanced science because yu can not do the experiment in front of them

you ve got to keep it so primitive that they can t argue against it.

[upbeat socket]

"keeping down to their level" strategy could work , but those kind of arguments you have to win possible fallacies in their argunents, very risky but very fun debate nonetheless

[ionic merlin]

cant tell you here because they might see but if i tell you , you will see it's fool proof

actually, one of them agreed to my request in DM and when i asked if i could quote her in VC she said "no, cause you sound weasely"

[formal pilot]

I disagree (not respectfully)

[ionic merlin]

huh... you win again....

[thorny steeple]

I agree to disagree (neutrally)

[ionic merlin]

man , i am outdone....
i really need to brush up my debating skills....

[thorny steeple]

Fr you do or get into the dustbin right @formal pilot

Be level 10

[ionic merlin]

they blocked me for 72h because they couldnt answer my questions.

[thorny steeple]

Definitely mate didn't triggered or said something stupid

[ionic merlin]

no, just asked them to answer a series of yes/no questions.
i think they have enough experience to detect a trap.

i was planning to use their own arguments agaisnt them

[thorny steeple]

Too foolish without providing background into the question before beginning them

[ionic merlin]

well, thats nothing though , the vegans banned me for 17 days for saying that plants have a sensory system

[thorny steeple]

I'm sure you didn't say, yeah veganism is useless or it just doesn't work

[ionic merlin]

sure, but if they are sure their theory is 100% cirrect, why would they refuse?

[ionic merlin]

i didnt, feel free to go and check. i have nothing to hide.
i am a vegetarian myself, close enough you d think

[vale finch]

Bombardiro crocodilo

[thorny steeple]

Let me use 100% of my brain, so if mate didn't have anything to hide why was he banned, oh I wonder why 🎶🎶🎶

[shadow bronze]

×

[violet wolf]

and Cui?

[late glen]

guys anyone wanna join a chill minecraft server msg me

[ionic merlin]

we are talking about debate with the vegan crowd here....

lol

[warped meteor]

humanity is being farmed. You want proof of cosmic parasites? You’ve seen them your whole life. Stare at a white wall. Blue sky. Relax your eyes. The little floaters drifting across your vision? Not debris. They follow your focus. They shift with thought. They mimic your attention. Close your eyes — you’ll see geometry. Grids, pulses, patterns that respond to emotion. Thought affects light. Light affects feeling. Ever wonder why? That’s the interface. The 4th dimension bleeding into ours. Now feel fear. Where? Chest. Gut. Solar plexus. But it moves. It writhes. It shapes itself like a living thing. Because it IS. It’s not “your emotion.” It’s a parasite, feeding through memory, looping pain. Just like cosmic horrors — they exist. Not as monsters, but as formless intelligences that live inside perception itself. They hijack ideology, identity, trauma. They feed on chaos. Disagreement. Grief. They need division. They are in all sides. No one is immune. You feel them every time something dark coils in your gut. Every time a thought loops without end. Every time emotion feels like invasion. This isn’t metaphor. This is mechanical. Floaters, geometry, emotional reaction — all proof. All testable. Anyone can confirm it in their own senses. Cognitive dissonance is the moment you see the veil. That flash of pain and confusion when reality wobbles? That’s the parasite being exposed. Don’t run from fear. Watch it. Study its shape. Hold attention. Don’t react. And it dies. They can’t survive observation. They can’t mimic when seen.

[turbid dome]

Bait

[warped meteor]

do it

right now.

See it for yourself.

[ionic merlin]

lol, the guy is courageous.
hey he must have proof of the shape of earht....

lol

[late glen]

guys anyone wanna join a chill minecraft server msg me

[turbid dome]

“You’re good at geography”

Previously “you’re surrounding me”

“Saudi Arabia”

Because Syria definitely surrounds Saudi Arabia

[quick musk]

noo don't ruin the meme I was laughing hard

[turbid dome]

rip

[quick musk]

he's good in geography "unlike"others, ig the Lebanese guy met many people that had no idea

[turbid dome]

Still sad

[quick musk]

in the past Syria was bordering Saudi Arabia when trans Jordan didn't exist yet

[quick musk]

Why?

[turbid dome]

That was before that guy was even alive though lol

[quick musk]

Maybe he believes in "greater Syria" Who knows what's his ideology

[turbid dome]

Because it's not that hard

[turbid dome]

Yes definitely

[quick musk]

nah you're not an average American

[turbid dome]

Actually I'm an internationalist therefore I an just deny countries, EZ

[quick musk]

Also I was surprised that he guessed he's from the levant just bu his appearance

[turbid dome]

Yeah I'm worse (I'm self aware)

[turbid dome]

The shades lmao

[quick musk]

no, smarter but with weird ideas

[gusty apex]

Shia

[turbid dome]

Too many weird ideas

[quick musk]

is there something you see that I can't see?

[turbid dome]

No but lebanese people have dro[

drip*

[quick musk]

yesterday a Lebanese sent a meme "shias and Christians unite only when it comes on hating Syrians" people are so funny nowadays

[gusty apex]

they also unite to do gen0c1de in syria

[quick musk]

What do you mean

[quick musk]

ngl the Christians won't put their hands with the Shia either, I mean the south and north Lebanon feel like 2 different countries 😭

[turbid dome]

Most stylish

[quick musk]

Whaat

[quick musk]

I agree

yeah but still doesn't mean levantines are more Greek than them😭

the only Greeks that are really close to levantines are the cypriots

I think the Turkish are the closest to Greeks

[turbid dome]

You've started another balkan war

congrats

[quick musk]

I couldn't open it

I deleted telegram

[quick musk]

It's a fact though

Greeks are a small minority in the levant

[turbid dome]

yes but facts start balkan wars

[quick musk]

Balkan beef is funny

[turbid dome]

It's hilariously bad

[quick musk]

Wait are you syrian?

[turbid dome]

American lol

[quick musk]

no their memes are funny 😭but when it gets serious yeah so bad

[quick musk]

him?

[turbid dome]

Srebrenica 💀

[turbid dome]

yes

[quick musk]

Those are the sects followed bro, who are Greek Orthodox it's the church They follow

[gusty apex]

السلام عليكم

[gusty apex]

so?

[turbid dome]

that has nothing to do on genetics

don't care tbh

[gusty apex]

french in algeria and morocco morocco did french itself while it was forced on algeria

[quick musk]

you know what, now I think you can pass as a balkan

And Bosnian specifically

[turbid dome]

If I wear adidas maybe

[gusty apex]

did i talk or reply to any genetic talk??

[quick musk]

So they're not Greeks ethnically, it's the church they're following ....

[turbid dome]

maybe you didn't realize it but yes

[gusty apex]

yes christian

[quick musk]

He was claiming levantines are more Greek than the modern Greeks 😭

[gusty apex]

is it an ethnic map??

[quick musk]

@thorny steeple are you Lebanese?

[gusty apex]

who?

[turbid dome]

it's a map of religions

[quick musk]

Sectarian one ig

[gusty apex]

ik, thats why i gave it

[gusty apex]

which one

[quick musk]

Look, in the past Greeks came to the levant so they're the ones carrying levantine ancestry not the opposite.
Yeah there's a shared history indeed even the Greek alphabet is derived from Phoencian 🇱🇧 but this doesn't mean levantines today are more Greek than the Greeks

there are still some Greek communities in the levant till today, so they might have done the researchers on them😭

but an average levantine is mostly levantine

[quick musk]

Are you Syrian

Nah

[gusty apex]

No

[quick musk]

you guys are suspicious

Are you a troll😭

[turbid dome]

yes

[quick musk]

Anatolians, levantines and Greeks are distinct groups

They shared history, yes. They're the same? No

[quick musk]

What do you think? 😭I take back my words about Americans

[turbid dome]

which specific words about americans

But no they aren't closest to ancient greeks

[quick musk]

The levantines originated from the levant not Anatolia. The Greeks came to the levant and that's why "some" might have mixed..
Anatolians lived in northern Syria too so they might have mixed too
But the three are still distinct groups

Are you saying the levantines are immigrants from anatolia?

[turbid dome]

Did you not say you were american in the other server where you got banned for doing race science 💀

[quick musk]

You're also in the Syrian server I'm in, did you tell them this before?

[quick musk]

Being bad at geography and history

[turbid dome]

no this adds to that conception

[quick musk]

Bruh I'm literally from the northern levant😭 and I'm not telling you it's not true ...
There's only a shared history between both nations like the Syro-hittite states. But we are completely distinct group. In fact southeastern Türkiye today is supposed to be "levantine"

[turbid dome]

Didn't you literally say you are glad to be with a Lebanese woman so you can have 100% pure blooded Arab children? That's race science definitionally. And I thought you were from the US

[quick musk]

If this guy is proven to be an american in the end, I'll return back mu words

I know the history of my country and city

[turbid dome]

To reading a very extremely trustworthy telegram link lmao

[quick musk]

I asked you are you syrian? Since you didn't agree then you're not

[quick musk]

Schizophrenic

[turbid dome]

ok so you're lying, got it. Coincidentally same PFP and username and same fascination with race science and Native Role in both servers

[quick musk]

you got a long username, from an Arab tribe?

[formal pilot]

I disagree (disrespectfully)

[quick musk]

The islamists on discord claim we are all Arabs 😭 this is a new version

[formal pilot]

It's just Astaghfirullah wa atubu ilaihi

[turbid dome]

Evidence deleted because you're banned there LMAO. Nor do I care to invite others to prove you're lying, I'm not that terminally online. You can try and make it scientific or religious as much as you want but it's still race science, literally every muslim there disagreed with you and you got banned for it.

lol ok bud

Thank you for your abundant consideration of my mental health

[quick musk]

the username is ahmed Ibn ...Ibn...

yeah I know identities aren't based on genetics

But comparing us to Greeks is wrong

levantines are just highly mixed

I was searching for some DNA results

[turbid dome]

Yet another reason why modern greeks are closer to ancient greeks than the levant

[quick musk]

A Muslim arab from Damascus

[turbid dome]

ignoring genetics ofc

[quick musk]

but christians are less mixed

[civic reef]

if this is not necessarily tied to the genetics, then could a white person be Arab, if they spoke fluent Arabic and spent their life in Arabic countries?

[formal pilot]

Sounds iraq-iranian name, based on carefully used Racism

[quick musk]

They just mixed with Germans and others, but I believe the closest to ancient Greeks are the Turkish

[turbid dome]

yup

should be

[quick musk]

na he'd be hating on levantines not the opposite 😭

Wait he's still spreading misinformation

A new tactic to attack

[quick musk]

Did you see him speaking any other language before?

[turbid dome]

it appears to be modern greeks actually but idk

[quick musk]

This is because a Syrian christian claimed he's Caucasian and won the case in America

[turbid dome]

I think he may have posted in arabic before

[quick musk]

From his long name you're right most probably 😭but why would an arab be spreading propaganda

[turbid dome]

Same talking point as before lol. In reality middle easterners will be racially profiled at TSA

[quick musk]

after that guy named George claimed they're "Caucasian" race, America was pretty racist back then so the only way to be granted a citizenship is to be white .....now ofc if someone claimed this it'll be proven wrong

[turbid dome]

I don't think he's an Arab. I think he's a non Arab muslim who believes that Arabs are superior, if I understand correctly

[quick musk]

https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1525/9780520943469-006/html?lang=en&srsltid=AfmBOopmAAOAoa2lJ_PW1EQaqlZUu8XPLWq-XlbwSUwj3vXDtHXFDQWe

If he was Muslim, his case would be turned down then

[quick musk]

But he's trying to prove Arabs aren't Arabs? 💀

[turbid dome]

You literally said this in the other server

[quick musk]

Are you Iranian?

[turbid dome]

Next time I will assume you do not mean what you're saying, may make life easier

[quick musk]

He should have said he's Greek but sadly the telegram channel didn't exist back then

[turbid dome]

makes sense

[quick musk]

British studying the history of the middle east?

[turbid dome]

oil

[formal pilot]

British is equivalent to iraq nowadays

[quick musk]

https://tenor.com/view/countryhumans-countryballs-country-america-usa-gif-12751036301007428878

I couldn't open the link, but I told you there is a Greek minority in the levant. How do you know his researchers weren't based on actual Greeks

Also why is a British studying the history of this region

yoo don't underestimate the Arab institutes

What about the Europeans why don't you call the majority of them Asian immigrants

[turbid dome]

Or the US bombing of the Middle East and instituting military dictatorships

[main bison]

[quick musk]

Why do I feel like you're of an Iranian background, after this message I realized you were claiming the levantines are greek and Anatolian because you don't want any great contributions to be associated with the Arabs

[main bison]

What are y'all trying to prove

[quick musk]

Also Arabs aren't intellectually inferior,the Arab world has the potential but it lacks the infrastructure and freedom to fully develop it. They are ruled by corrupted governments. The smart youth worked in the west since the fall of the empires that once united the countries

[main bison]

[quick musk]

You did that indirectly talking about our region, saying they came from Greece or Anatolia and same group bla bla

[turbid dome]

Would be a conflicting worldview since he didn’t want his future kids to suffer from not being Arab, since he said racism is halal

(And before he whines about slandering him I went and got the closest screenshots I could to what he said, since it’s deleted)

[quick musk]

You want me to mention some famous Arab scientists? Ibn nafis, alkindi, Ibn haytham, Ibn batuta, ....they were great in astronomy, literature etc ..
You're talking as if the great Iranian scholars weren't working under the Arab caliphs in Iraq.

[formal pilot]

I don't have a clue

[turbid dome]

At this point idk

[formal pilot]

[quick musk]

Not same source, we are semitic, they're not

[quick musk]

Is this a moss@d bot I can no longer understand whether he's with or against Arabs lmao

[turbid dome]

I have no clue 😭

[formal pilot]

Y'all will be shocked how accurate i am with this shid

[turbid dome]

Accurate racism 💀

[quick musk]

But they ruled the Persians in the end, you're speaking as if arabs didn't exist for more than a 1000 years too
Persia has a great history and Arabs too.

it's because Iraq and Iran have shared history too. Iran used mesopotamian scripts from Iraq, and then Aramaic script from Syria and today arabic script
All middle eastern countries exchanged culture, if celebrating neroz makes someone Persian then speaking Arabic means arabizing the Persians? 😭Their researches were done in Arabic after all

Even if they're just linguist labels, we are distinct groups. Greeks didn't view the levantines as "Greeks"! They were still foreigners but not uncivilized like they described other nations

[turbid dome]

Alright I’m going to give my head a break from the insane cognitive dissonance occurring, goodnight for now (maybe not finally)

[quick musk]

If this is a short period, then it's interesting how they could expand and conquer all those regions under the caliphates. Bruh believes Persians controlled the caliphs 😭
Now you don't care about genetics, although you know the caliphs were actual Arabs form well known tribes.

[uncut tiger]

damn mongols and arabs in serious chat

one heck of a combo

there are no objective sources, everything is biased

read islamic sources from sunni scholars, umar and abubakr were amazing companions of the prophet

read islamic sources from shiites, umar and abubakr fled from three wars

AND were jealous of the prophet

[quick musk]

I'm a semite and he's an agent

Call them hellinized then

The Romans were Syrianized because they married Syrians, and the empress had power over their sons and husbands( using your logic)

Persians, Kurds and Turks also spoke Arabic in the same region. I guess in the end we are all arabized

I only agree that the caliphate was persian influenced, but sons follow the lineage of their fathers

[feral river]

you do understand arab is an ethnicity and national but muslim is just another theist concept neither it could be proven nor this represent something

basically if you say you are muslim you believe in islam then you are

and it doesn't represent anything

[bronze pier]

@feral river lend me some of your seriousness dude 😭😭😭

I'm too chill these days

[feral river]

I don't really care if you want to proof how God exists according to your holy book, but I'm just saying if this status doesn't represent anything but religious alliegiance, I don't think it's appropriate to mix it with real concept like ethnicity

okay I can totally respect that you have the freedom to believe anything you want, and I appreciate that for all the time

[solemn pawn]

Now KISS

KISS KISS KISS KISS

[fringe temple]

https://tenor.com/view/monke-gif-4007877678756330230

[uncut tiger]

I'm young black and rich...

IM YOUNG, BLACK AND RICH!!!!

[manic juniper]

Strange

[uncut tiger]

What is?

Do you not scroll social media, this is a viral trend.

[uncut tiger]

Is he rich

[formal pilot]

Seems like it

✡️

[uncut tiger]

Bro is anti natalist semitic expansionist egalitarian

[copper dove]

just pick one bro

[shadow bronze]

Brain dead

[thorny steeple]

Lol and the debate became getting banned lmao

[thorny steeple]

Classic Aladdin move as always ahh

[honest comet]

Why's your tag "beginner" although you speak in clear and conplete sentences?

[feral river]

I love pink color

[lime cobalt]

u can be nice too

[feral river]

The Supreme Leader was nice like the light coming through from the window that lighting and giving hope to the people everyday

[lime cobalt]

I hope so, we need new system

[feral river]

and the people shall be ruled by this one ultimate supreme leader and will to contribute everything they have for the leader

[high raven]

How's this channel doing

[lime cobalt]

Sounds scary, so no more freedom

Do u think u need freedom ?

[cursive nest]

I feel bored....

because I'm free

[formal pilot]

They shouldn't have given you the socks

[hidden shore]

Dress pink colour too

[hidden shore]

If we look back from 2 million years ago, we have the most same dan you know and same ancestors in Africa

[hidden shore]

Simply said you are an Arabic

[coral belfry]

bombing majorities and bombing minorities

that what israel is doing

[prisma cipher]

Bombing when it Asad rules, bombing when it not Asad.

[quick musk]

yeah

From a war to another

[coral belfry]

poor Syrians , being bombed by their president and being bombed by their historical enemy , and now that the president is gone , they are still being bombed

[prisma cipher]

They will say it is a very accurate missile and only the criminals were hit

[fresh flower]

It was though

They hit the Syrian military HQ, only one reported civilian death (so far)

It's only because Syrian government forces are attacking the Druze

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/syrian-druze-leader-urges-local-fighters-confront-incoming-government-troops-2025-07-15/

[prisma cipher]

Main thing, don't forget who is bad guy there

[quick musk]

Bs, the soldiers are defending their country. They're the invaders

They're the criminals

[fresh flower]

Which "They"?

[quick musk]

Also the conflict was between the bedouin arab tribes and druze so literally both "minorities"

[fresh flower]

IDF or the Druze?

[quick musk]

And when the government interfered to end up the conflict

They're the "criminals", makes sense

[quick musk]

Idf and its allies

[sharp creek]

what is idf

i dont fuck

[fresh flower]

I forgot what I was gonna type

Oh yeah

[fresh flower]

The Druze are their allies, the conscription rate for Israeli Druze is like 80%

[solemn pawn]

No I do fuck

[fresh flower]

They'll keep bombing if the government goes after them

[coral belfry]

wtf

[fresh flower]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/15/middleeast/israel-strikes-syria-sectarian-clashes-druze-intl

[quick musk]

Isnotraeli druze has no right in Syria nor the levant, why tf are they involving themselves in Syria matters

[fresh flower]

The Druze have been in that region for over a thousand years though

[coral belfry]

or its just Benjamin you know who starting a new front to stay in power and not go to prision
i think all of this will end soon in a diplomatic crisis that will just....... i dont really know what this diplomatic crisis will be

[fresh flower]

No lol, Israel has always had beef with Syria, they stole the Golan heights in like 1967

They're just bombing them now because the Druze are in the IDF

[quick musk]

"whoever kills his people is a traitor" and they had no right the moment they allieed with the colonizer.
The majority of druze in Syria don't even stand with colonizers, its only their corrupted leader

[fresh flower]

Don't think it matters if it was Netanyahu or someone else in power

[coral belfry]

it does

[coral belfry]

at least sometimes

[quick musk]

Funnily enough the druze are also Arabs, but when it comes to them the colonizers believe they're indigenous. hypocrisy at its finest

"Thousands of years" while the sect is just a branch of Islam with lots of myth from ancient beliefs

[fresh flower]

You're reserving the evil to just Bibi himself, any other pm in Israel would do the same, the Israeli people are inherently evil

[coral belfry]

i said sometimes

[fresh flower]

So what should be done with them?

[quick musk]

Deported, the ones allying with the colony shall be deported

Millions of syrian were displaced because of the civil war, and now if a group wants to start a new division they can get out like millions were forced to do before

So whatever the government is doing now, it's right

[fresh flower]

They don't though, most of the Druze in the Golan heights turned down the Israeli citizenship, you just said yourself that the Druze in Syria aren't like the ones in Israel

[quick musk]

Yeah,I specified who are the traitors
The honorable druze have suffered a lot under the civil war too and still stand with the right

their leader should be killed, he has done even problems

[fresh flower]

The ones in Syria aren't allies of Israel though, they're just getting air support because Syrian government forces are attacking them

Israel aren't "the good guys" in this

[high raven]

Minorities being attacked in the ME?

Unheard of

[fresh flower]

Literally never happened before

[feral river]

they are the guy who's gonna win the war

[fresh flower]

https://tenor.com/view/ugh-gif-5621610198334958462

[quick musk]

Alhijri(druze chief) literally clarified that "Isnotreal isnt the enemy"

he's playing with the minds of the druze, I hope the government arrests him before anything

[olive herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225953493769126019/1293010003745312768/bounce.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225953493769126019/1293010003745312768/bounce.gif

[hollow kernel]

Hi bluds

Anyone want play roblox with me and commumicate on english?✅

[prisma cipher]

Today was found air bomb ww2 times not exploding

[coral belfry]

return it to sender

[turbid dome]

Yeah Israel doesn’t care about human rights, it’s pretty clearly for other reasons. They’ve already stolen the golan heights

[feral river]

law/rule without enforcement is toilet paper

nobody would give a fuck to some toilet paper to waste the actual benefit for their nation

national interest above all is the only policy which nations could survive in this world

[coral belfry]

they are criticizing them
its not about law enforcement

[feral river]

feel free to criticize that doesn't change anything

the moral standard can never be enforced and it wasn't for all the time nobody gives a fuck

until you use guns to write them into the law

[coral belfry]

no ,it does change the public view of the situation

[feral river]

and use guns to enforce that

[feral river]

everybody could express their idea to change public view of the situation who cares

[coral belfry]

and it puts public pressure on the government

[feral river]

that public view can't even worth more than 5 bucks

[feral river]

then being prosecuted under the law of disrupting the social order

and btw that doesn't pressure anything on the government until you pick up the guns to fight against the order

[velvet dirge]

-This idea may make a massive change in his project, it's very precious.
-Your teacher instructions are crucial for succeeding and getting a high mark
-Oh what a bad programme it's crummy for a degree that I can't describe it
-my nys relatives can grasp my personalities, they are always doing a nuisance
-this book is wonderful however it's somewhat a little bit subtle to understand
-your mistake isn't so big, it's fabulous to know its volume, you've not understand you mistake untill now

Did i use the words (fabulous-precious-subtle-crummy-crucial-nys) right

[coral belfry]

it does worth a lot

[feral river]

don't care

they don't give a fuck obviously

[thorny steeple]

Chinese

[feral river]

your public view can never challenge their determination to eliminate every terrorist and enemy in their territory

also your public view could be influenced by anyone especially who have power and money that becomes the sponsor to use you guys for power struggle

after all you got nothing they got what they wanted from the public view

[coral belfry]

they do

[thorny steeple]

I will just ignore you

[feral river]

dream that idc

[coral belfry]

no they really do

[thorny steeple]

Man just ignored him

[wooden star]

Great Patriotic war xD

It's so funny as russians call ww2

[fresh flower]

It isn't about human rights

It's just because Israeli Druze are very loyal to the IDF and have a high conscription rate

Many of them have even gone into Syria to fight the Syrian government

This is just the IDF bombing Syria to help IDF supporters

[turbid dome]

Tbh I don’t even think it’s this, I think it’s finding an excuse to destabilize Syria further so that it’s an easier target for later

That’s why I think they were limited in their initial strike on the defense ministry compared to when they love bombing civilians, it’s about destabilization more than victory

Limited in their war crimes

[fresh flower]

Literally no need to, you leave that region alone, and it will just turn into shit again. They already bombed their military capabilities as soon as the current guys in charge won against Assad, just to make sure they pose no threat

[manic juniper]

Cucked

[fresh flower]

If anything I think it needs to be more destabilised, the Kurds should make a push and finally finalise their own state

[manic juniper]

The good ending

[fresh flower]

I'll double down too, it's good that the IDF is helping the Druze, instead of having them wait around for more religious persecution or another ISIS/ISIL

[turbid dome]

I mean that’s true enough

[turbid dome]

Hopefully if they get their own state then the US loses most their leverage and they won’t be State department tools

That’s the ideal outcome

[turbid dome]

The current Syria leader is already former Al-Qaeda, though Israel will only exacerbate the suffering in the region

Also because Israel helps Isis

[fresh flower]

I think they already did though, the US left them for dead and to be bombed by Turkey even though they promised it wouldn't happen after the Kurds helped them fight ISIS

[turbid dome]

They’ve used some Kurdish groups in the recent Iran bombings but they failed to do anything major

At the end of the day the Kurds are willing to deal with the devil if it means they get a state where they’re free from other oppressive powers in the region

[fresh flower]

This was such a clusterfuck to try and understand 😭😭😭

[turbid dome]

Ok but this isn’t even the most accurate as the US both supported and opposed Isis

[fresh flower]

I honestly wouldn't blame them if they teamed up with Israel for air support

[turbid dome]

It would be in character

[fresh flower]

At least there'd be one state in the ME where the minorities aren't persecuted

[turbid dome]

There’s literally no difference between Israel and the US

Israel is part of the US

[turbid dome]

Yup

Rojava expansionism time

[fresh flower]

Israel is bad, I think we can all agree on that, except Mein Kraft, but religious fanatics in that region always turn out to be just as bad

[oblique juniper]

50/50

[feral river]

Israel is our stronghold to fight against terrorism on the front 🇮🇱

Long Live the War on Terror 🇺🇸 🇮🇱 🇨🇳 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 🇫🇷

[turbid dome]

Ehhh the religious fanatics goal is just to have their own version of Israel tbh, I’m not sure supporting Israel (who aligns with Isis) will help at all. Bombing will create more radicalization and fanaticism

Never said they were

[high raven]

Can you add Lebanon to this

We're doing our best

[turbid dome]

Add 🇰🇵

[feral river]

they are not a Jewish state

[high raven]

[oblique juniper]

terrorists vs. genocidaires =

israel and iran

[feral river]

I don't care if they use anything as pretext to conduct terrorist attack especially genocide or other things but we are determined to eliminate all of them by our powerful forces

[feral river]

we are dominating trade doesn't stop America dominating regional affairs, regarding to the issue of countering terrorism and islamic influence we are all on the same front

we eliminated terrorists and established strong military presense in the most muslim region in China, they were directly involved into the war against terror with their only proxy of the middle east Israel

don't think these guys would have a chance by China's rising

China also have more cooperation with Israel more than other states

even we can dock our warship at Israeli ports

[uneven citrus]

https://preview.redd.it/global-trade-dominance-u-s-vs-china-2000-2024-v0-uqqo9rt4jpje1.jpeg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=18fc341d7d8b3326f50103dc8fa389e979ca59f5

[oblique juniper]

i love china

[high raven]

😭😭😭

[uneven citrus]

holy yap

[uneven citrus]

you didn't dodge this one

[high raven]

Not even sure how to respond, not sure why he bundled Lebanon with his Jizya to the US paying Islamic countries

[uneven citrus]

your response was fitting

[turbid dome]

天上太阳红呀红彤彤(诶)

[uneven citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-credit-social-уважение-плюс-уважение-gif-1626328442317885176

[thorny steeple]

Give it one 1 trillion

[turbid dome]

Because their government is useless, they just let Israel slaughter them. It’s not a real government

It’s a buffer state for Israel to later invade

[uneven citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/geeked-vs-locked-in-angry-bird-vs-angry-bird-locked-in-bird-gif-17221846656631414500

[fresh flower]

Why is this guy rp as a Muslim

I recognise an Israeli supporter when I see one

You can't fool me goy

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-know-let-me-know-dog-meme-let-me-know-dog-dog-holding-laugh-dog-speed-gif-15789708427721573726

[winter echo]

There economy is getting weaker by the day
And their system of government is not sustainable

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-penguins-of-madagascar-skipper-bait-clickbait-gif-7373851025472833661

[uncut tiger]

What in the name of unemployment is going on

[winter echo]

What does american military debts have to do with Israel's economy?

[uncut tiger]

What in the name of yapping is going on

[thorny steeple]

Fr where's the primary sources at

[turbid dome]

Trolling

[manic juniper]

I miss when serious chat trolls used to be fun

[thorny steeple]

Good times y'know

[uncut tiger]

What does this mean? Is this a meme?

[winter echo]

No major events happening like israel vs iran war

[feral river]

the situation of Iran was, I'm already broke and poor, I can't be more poorer as what I'm right now

and people are used to have low expectations of their situation

[uncut tiger]

Iran is a nice country wrt infrastructure bro

[feral river]

even African got that shit lol

[uncut tiger]

a Pakistani YouTuber went there and his videos show amazing Iranian stuff

[feral river]

and infrasturcture wasn't a symbol of rich

[uncut tiger]

I always compare it to Pakistan so maybe that's why I think it's good but you compare it to china so u think it's poor

[feral river]

see what happens in the USA, trash infrasturcture, trash street with trash zombies but they are the richest country in the world

there was a very famous word about the relationship between the nation and economy was: economy basis was the determinative factor of the upper structure

it depends on your economy and technological situation

if you don't even have computer you gonna run your government like in the 60s

if you don't have roads, transportation, don't have effective system that boost private investment, don't have modern insititutions your country will be like a poor cheifdom

and your power structure was even based on the economy situation by what you can profit from, from resources ? from services ? from other industries or from finance

that decides everything

and all of that shit spends money

economy basis was the determinative factor of the upper structure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_and_superstructure

[olive herald]

serioouys question

do i have a change wirh min?ona

[vapid current]

Yoo

[fresh flower]

Nah this guy is smoking the IDF pipe😭😭😭

[olive herald]

hiii

[vapid current]

What??

[olive herald]

LMAOSJS NOTHIGT NVM

[vapid current]

We can't help bro , come back later

[vapid current]

Get out u are not serious bro

Thank u

Feel free to ask.. only when u are serious.

[winter echo]

Its a simple question what does American military spending have to do with Israel's economy,
if my memory serves right america doesn't buy weapons from Israeli
They only send some aid to Israel about 20 billion dollars each year that's that

[feral river]

Salute to our justice and freedom fighters of IDF 🇮🇱

[winter echo]

Death to the IDF

[mortal nova]

When you attack a country and it fights back

[winter echo]

Who started it and when?

[mortal nova]

1948. Arabs started it

[winter echo]

What do you mean by unlimited government spending? You think America can just print dollars from thin air?

[winter echo]

Your history teachers didn't teach you well if you believe
That it, started way before 1948

[mortal nova]

Oh, it's the most stupid type of conflict. It's like Turkey and Greece go to war again

Or Serbia and Bulgaria

[winter echo]

Do you know what would happens if they are unable to pay that debts

[olive herald]

do i have a chance with miona?

[mortal nova]

No, no they can't. The thing is about that you buy anything with dollar. That's why they are the first economy of the world

[mortal nova]

If USD die, the whole world will die. It will be new 1929

But worse

[thorny steeple]

USD? As united states dollar?

[mortal nova]

Yup

[sage snow]

no

[thorny steeple]

Alright

[sage snow]

the brics made a currency they brics country can use that currency

[winter echo]

American is the only country who would sink and their eu minions

They'll be a transition from unipolar world order to multipolar world order

Your entire argument is flawed.
We are not in the early 2000s we in 2025
China have more trading partners than the USA
So even if american economy collapses someone would just replace them

I wasn't there when you talk about it reta

That's rich coming from a zionist supporter

Hey land robber what are talking about?

[turbid dome]

Troll is back to trolling with race science

[winter echo]

The only right israelis have in this region is to pack their bags and go back to europe

[high raven]

Yikes lol

[winter echo]

Why are you bringing something that happened centuries ago?

[iron dagger]

anyone know how to start new duo in this server??!!!

[high raven]

Clearly 😭

[winter echo]

So you don't care about all the atrocities israel have been commiting for decades?

[high raven]

He doesn't, he's one of those comfy Sunnis

What was it now again, dollar over deen?

[winter echo]

I don't even consider him a muslim TBH

As long as they are in line with islamic principles I have no problem with them

[high raven]

He's trolling, no self-respecting Muslim would say that

[fresh flower]

Type of Muslim who'd say bismillah before a shot of jägermeister

[winter echo]

Then that have nothing to do with islam

[turbid dome]

Is bro still larping in chat

[fresh flower]

@gusty apex these are the guys I meant when I said that being a Sunni today is worse than being a Kafir

[winter echo]

Imagine being a muslim and supporting some who is literally carrying out genocide on a live tv

[fresh flower]

Shut up Israel you can't Hasbara me

[winter echo]

You see the reason I said you are not muslim
How can you be a muslim and talk about the companions of the prophet with disdain?

The so called part

[turbid dome]

Troll is going to troll

[winter echo]

Okay what do you think about the caliphs?

thanks to them islam is preserve the way Allah intended it to be

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carrell-the-office-michael-scott-coldsore-cancer-gif-12214631

[uneven citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/nalog-gif-25906765

[high raven]

A Shein scammer is more believable than the troller

Look at the state of this chat

[winter echo]

Israel is trying to provoke iran into another war.

[prisma garden]

Yes

[winter echo]

Do you think they are too afraid to do that after iran shattered their image of invincibility?

[prisma garden]

No

[shell lily]

😦

Do you work with dahabiya?

[coral belfry]

nah their invincibility was shattered since al aqsa flood

[prisma garden]

Yes

[shell lily]

who said they're invincible

[prisma garden]

Right

[fresh flower]

Is the Israeli gone?🤢🤢🤢

I think it's safe now guys

[feral river]

Then defeat them completely

We need a total war against terrorism

🇮🇱

Hail Israel, Hail the Netanyahu administration, Hail the Supreme Leader

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-dance-dance-move-monkey-gif-15724375

[sharp thunder]

If anyone believes earth is a globe they should probably go to the 24/7 Flat Earth Discord guestroom Voice channel and let them know what for.

[manic juniper]

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[high raven]

I have the gun now