🧠｜serious-chat

[rocky coyote]

oh im sorry 😭 i didn't want to sound vague but i'll tone down my vocabs later on to suit you.

[heavy parcel]

israeli and palestinians are brothers!

[feral river]

Who control the guns, who rules everything

[turbid dome]

I think as early as ‘92 as well

[terse axle]

Where who whyyyy

[feral river]

You defy it, you got killed

No questions

[grave nymph]

SLOW MODE IS LITERALLY 1984

[arctic ermine]

Crazy

[turbid dome]

When you take “political power comes out of the barrel of a gun” too far and shoot yourself in the foot so your foot becomes more powerful

[heavy parcel]

and netanyahu

[terse axle]

What happened here is anyone here to explain me

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/all-that-for-nothing-all-for-naught-waste-of-time-time-consuming-fooling-around-gif-15455674

[manic juniper]

Lol I just checked, Finland has more inventions per capita than Israel according to Wikipedia

[versed edge]

It's not that Israel is doing it, but it is something that needs to be done. Iranian revolution really stemmed the potential of the country.

[obtuse perch]

+i dont want the citizens to die becuz most of them have nothing to do with the war but seeing the infrastructure destroyed and all the lies about military power and the iron dome exposes it this makes me happy

[turbid dome]

Also most of Israel’s inventions are paid for by US funding, so I’m taking credit

[manic juniper]

I really should be unironically patriotic about my country

[turbid dome]

You have the best case for it lol

[manic juniper]

An Indian licking Israel's rectum and shittalking Finland is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard

[arctic ermine]

Guys this is a khamas tunnel and we just found a list of their top commanders!!’n

Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday!!

[thorny steeple]

Some people defending terrorist and the another side disagree

[obtuse perch]

Our friend here thinka america is the supper hero

[turbid dome]

This chat is Hamas we must bomb discord, the universities in America are becoming Hamas

[manic juniper]

Israel even copied our fucking flag 🇫🇮 this is a white background with a blue religious symbol. Does it look familiar to you? 🇮🇱

[chilly ocean]

I am at work but it private message is ok!

[obtuse perch]

AAAAAAAAAH MERICA SAVE US GIVE US FREEDOM

[terse axle]

I see

[manic juniper]

Don't care they literally copied our flag

[thorny steeple]

What is your thoughts

[heavy parcel]

i have only one flag 🏳️‍🌈

[arctic ermine]

😭😭 we must bomb the English hub 💔💔💔

[manic juniper]

Our flag looks objectively better

[versed edge]

🇩🇰

[obtuse perch]

Bro u copied not em they r the chosen ppl not u

[terse axle]

I am not interested broooo just move on

[manic juniper]

🇫🇮🇮🇱 white background, blue religious symbol

[heavy parcel]

🇸🇻

[obtuse perch]

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[thorny steeple]

Source?

[obtuse perch]

I cant

[manic juniper]

Literally copied it, it's the same pattern

[heavy parcel]

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[manic juniper]

Source: look at the date of foundation and the pattern

[heavy parcel]

🇵🇼

[manic juniper]

It's clear that they copied us

[turbid dome]

America would love to install a dictator to steal all your resources and make you even more poor of a country and then it gets so bad you want the last guys back and so you overthrow the government to put your own guys in charge but America gets mad and sanctions your country

[thorny steeple]

Yeah, your country created these color

[heavy parcel]

🇸🇴 somalia is the best

[uneven citrus]

it was promised to them twin

[arctic ermine]

It’s okay guys hospitals and aid centres, aid workers and ambulance staff, children and doctors, oh and reporters- they’re all legitimate targets!! We are the victims!!

[manic juniper]

Denmark did, but Israel still copied both

At least I give credit to the original

[arctic ermine]

Bhai bas bhi karo

[manic juniper]

Unlike Israel

[heavy parcel]

bc i born jew i am superior thab you

[uneven citrus]

ey shoutout the least to do

[turbid dome]

Did you see the story about IDF soldiers killing Palestinians with a bulldozer and it didn’t focus on killing Palestinians with bulldozers, it focused on how their mental health sucked after running over civilians with bulldozers

[thorny steeple]

@grand prism bro, her country created the blue and white color

[versed edge]

We are the true terror of Europe. 🪓

[uneven citrus]

why do indians glaze israel so much 😹

[arctic ermine]

I did, and there was a story from before 2023 as well of how an idf soldier felt compelled to “empty his gun onto a 12 year old Palestinian girl” and he’s the victim

[obtuse perch]

So civilians are not allowed to get food and if they try they are shot? Or u want me to remind u how hamas deal with the hostages?

[turbid dome]

Poor little victims suffering from mental health problems they got after slaughtering children

[thorny steeple]

Hamas = terrorist

[arctic ermine]

Did u hear, they counted acute anxiety among the IDF as injuries from irans attacks 😭😭

[grave nymph]

aside from the ragebaits, which country you from?

[feral river]

just go annex every middle east state

I support you guys 🇮🇱

[turbid dome]

That’s awesome😭 yeah getting acute anxiety isn’t a mental health issue when being bombed

[obtuse perch]

Keep lying to urself hamas exposed u and showed us who the real terrorists are everyone knows

[thorny steeple]

Hahah I really find you funny

[arctic ermine]

I’d like to make a very important distinction here. Israel has hijacked the Jewish religion to use their trauma for their settler project, this is an important distinction to make.

[rocky coyote]

i said this chatroom's tendency to discuss politics is not a place for a productive conversation. they are driven by fringe sentiments, either nobody can be the least detached to innocent statements or questions or they blurt out insensitive chats as if they're innocent. it also suffers from a gigantic language barrier and people often interpret elaborate answers as a call for hostility.

[grave nymph]

ARE YOU READY TO FIGHT FOR ISRAEL

[uneven citrus]

don't you have enough shi to worry about in your own country 😹

[versed edge]

Simpler times.

[uneven citrus]

you better get in the frontline 😿

[turbid dome]

🇮🇷🇮🇷🇮🇷

[manic juniper]

No my country was created first

We will take over 🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇴🇫🇮 YOUR 🫵🏻 COUNTRIES 🇮🇱🇵🇸
ALL JEWS ✡️ AND ALL THE ARABS 🌴 will be FORCED 👊🏻 to OWN 💶 a REINDEER 🦌🫎 by Us 🇫🇮 the MOST LAKE-RICH 🌬️ NATION 🌅

[arctic ermine]

plus all the foreigners who glaze Israel don’t even know that Israelis aren’t even allowing foreign workers into the bunkers because they’re racist. @grand prism even Indians aren’t allowed in

[thorny steeple]

Another waste of time. Die for nothing, for a politician

[rocky coyote]

thats why im a bystander most of the time. i pop out only when i want to be smug on an ungrounded topic or if im actively knowledgeable about the discussion at hand

these people can have their fun

[versed edge]

Finland is the weird alcoholic creepy uncle of Northern Europe.

[arctic ermine]

I saw a reel that reminded me of our Macbeth conversation

[turbid dome]

Idk if that’s real or not but if it is that’s insane.

[rocky coyote]

can i see it

[arctic ermine]

Yeah there’s been lots of videos

[turbid dome]

Crazy

[arctic ermine]

I’ll try and find it

[manic juniper]

We will bring social democracy to the entire Middle East, with or without their approval

They will never forgive us for the new social services

[grave nymph]

I mean, yeah. But its at least fun

[obtuse perch]

It hurts right?

[arctic ermine]

I don’t know man, you just need to watch how Israelis respond to Indians on twitter. They don’t like Indians, they think they’re inferior and idol worshippers. It’s embarrassing to lick the feet of someone who is very happy to kick you.

[grave nymph]

oh wait wait can I send u something

[turbid dome]

Oh damn yeah Al Jazeera (Hamas), TRT World (Hamas), and France 24 (Hamas) have all reported on it. New reporting showing America is Hamas

[grave nymph]

I saw similar thing to that

[obtuse perch]

Sure

[obtuse perch]

I have many just didnt want to hurt our zionist

[thorny steeple]

@obtuse perch, I wouldn't die for any country

[grave nymph]

I can't send media for some reason

and I really need that ability.

[obtuse perch]

Ikr u have no affiliation no personality no cause to defend no purpose in this life just living till u die

Miserable

[arctic ermine]

I can’t find it 💔💔

[obtuse perch]

Dm it ill send it for u

[arctic ermine]

UZBEKISTAN 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[grave nymph]

not dying for corrupt politicians ≠ having no goal in life

[grave nymph]

NO WAY🙏 🙏 ✅ 💪

[obtuse perch]

naaah i didn't mean that

[rocky coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/gamal-abdel-nasser-nasserist-united-arab-republic-nasser-arabism-gif-10750445489410471204

[rocky coyote]

my condolences

[formal pilot]

[thorny steeple]

Hahahah nothing of this makes sense. Go to war, die and be forgetten If you want to.

All of us live waiting death even if you think you will live more than others

[obtuse perch]

U missed a lot

[arctic ermine]

I’ve seen a video of a man speaking Hebrew, pushing someone away. And he’s saying “go back to India”. I do double check things myself you know, and it’s correct. Look it up yourself if you will. I will give you the same advice, do not trust the media shown to YOU so easily lol. India is literally ranked #1 rn for misinformation. Remember India pak war? Indian media said Karachi was obliterated 😭🙏

[formal pilot]

I'm glad for it

[turbid dome]

Modi’s average interview: “mango or pineapple?”

[arctic ermine]

I do not blindly follow any media. I see news and i research it. I hope you will do this too, and put your biases aside. It is a very good skill to think “maybe I could have misunderstood this, maybe I could be wrong” it can change your life

[obtuse perch]

okeh bro

[obtuse perch]

Naaaaah u should have seen this

[turbid dome]

No stop this choose one outlet and uncritically believe everything it says, I think you should choose the one which receives the most CIA funding

[arctic ermine]

Just search it up

[turbid dome]

Jk

[obtuse perch]

Especially kukumber omg he is a genius

[grave nymph]

the Jewish narrative is crumbling rapidly because of this war stuff

funny to watch that

[arctic ermine]

I’ll stick to Haaretz then, the Israelis admitting Israel’s crimes 😼

[terse axle]

Yeah

[arctic ermine]

Admitting *

[manic juniper]

Other countries: cringe, go to war and die, get nothing
Finland: free bucket 🪣
Finland (original flag, inspired by Denmark)>Israel (not original, copied from Finland)

[obtuse perch]

Zionist*

[turbid dome]

Zionist

[grave nymph]

waaah waah waaag

[obtuse perch]

There is a lot of peaceful jews i respect em

[turbid dome]

Fair enough, just don’t look at their editorials

[manic juniper]

🇫🇮white background 🇮🇱 blue religious symbol
Coincidence?

[obtuse perch]

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[turbid dome]

Well if Israel declared Finland Hamas and destroys Finland so they don’t get accused of stealing…

[manic juniper]

If it's a religious symbol and it becomes a flag then yes it's copied

[turbid dome]

Isfrun is Hamas

[manic juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/you-will-try-anakin-skywalker-anakin-skywalker-made-by-fordo-gif-27525595

[arctic ermine]

If we talk about government officials rn then we can see that they’re very untrustworthy and unreliable in terms of Israel. Gvir and Smotrich have literally been sanctioned by the UK for their genocidal remarks, and the UK loves Israel as we know. Tells you it’s really bad. Even the families of hostages have lost faith in Netanyahu because they know his goal isn’t to recover the hostages, but to use them as means to take over the entire Gaza Strip- and then the West Bank.

[turbid dome]

Finnish soldiers are so cool, why can’t duck be like this

[manic juniper]

Israel: never used camels in war, probably shot camels during a war
Finland: used war reindeers

[rocky coyote]

thats not a duck

[obtuse perch]

My back hurts guys wut do u think of hitman 2 i wanna download it

[arctic ermine]

Hahahaha alrighty

Guys Kashmir was promised to me 2000 years ago by a god I don’t believe in its mine now~

[manic juniper]

Finland wasn't part of the Marshall plan, Finland wasn't part of NATO until a short time ago

[turbid dome]

Anyone with any Mongolian ancestry when they hear about irredentism 🫡

[arctic ermine]

Well the original conversation was about Israel, and I used Indian media as an example of how media isn’t reliable. So I went back to the existing conversation. I’ll try to find the video for you.

[turbid dome]

I got Finland and Sweden in NATO Jack! They’re cold like the ice cream I have cause my brain is failing!

[manic juniper]

Our country is highly militaristic, even more than Israel. Over 12% of our population has some amount of military readiness, as soon as we find out about hidden saunas in the Middle East Israel is done

[arctic ermine]

Will you not respond to the rest of what I said while I look? I’d appreciate it

[sweet wolf]

Made me recall the time australia waged war against emus

[formal pilot]

Kukumber’s geopolitical relevance is negligible, so he’s entitled to hold whatever opinions he likes. His country continues to support the two-state solution. and provides consistent aid to Palestine, also it's the first non-Arab nation to recognize the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), and among the earliest to recognize the State of Palestine

In fact, India has not designated Hamas as a terrorist organization

[turbid dome]

There’s saunas in Tel Aviv

[manic juniper]

Oh so you're changing the entire argument, unsurprisingly

By the way yes Finland would win against Israel

Even without nukes

[formal pilot]

Finnish are talib bros of that region

[manic juniper]

Let's compare the two countries with practical examples:

[sweet wolf]

I'm glad to hear that

unserious chat

[manic juniper]

Can't win against underequipped, nukeless Arabs

[turbid dome]

Also US would support Finland over Israel I think, the Border with Russia and all

[grave nymph]

sar why

superpower

[sweet wolf]

Can't lie they have been putting in some work lately

We can pick faults everyday bro I'm just glad to see we are in decent world position and it could have been much worse

[grave nymph]

India: INDIA SUPARPOWAR 2025 SAARR🇮🇳 🇮🇳 🇮🇳
One particular elephant:🗿

[manic juniper]

Stalemated the largest army in Europe

[formal pilot]

Sure, since you can't even vote

[sweet wolf]

I'm not arguing with you lmao

[manic juniper]

This was back when Finland was an AGRARIAN COUNTRY, less militarised than my bathroom

[formal pilot]

[arctic ermine]

@grand prism

[sweet wolf]

I'm just saying

[sweet wolf]

I recall that one sniper, forgot his name

Okay bro you win 🙏

[manic juniper]

Simo "White Death" Häyhä

[formal pilot]

Even carpet bombing won't eliminate Finns, they got underground cities with fresh water supply

[sweet wolf]

Yeahhh that's the one

[arctic ermine]

About how Israels allies are struggling to ignore the genocidal remarks of Israeli ministers like gvir and smotrich. And how hostage families have lost faith in Netanyahu, as he puts the hostages far below his main goal of taking over the entirety of Palestinian Territories using them as an excuse

[rocky coyote]

not to say you're wrong but all the height of Palestinean support during this time were done under Nehru. he's a staunch third-worldist figure and the country's politics had rapidly shifted since then

[turbid dome]

They will just smile, and redirect the bombs away because they’re magical

[sweet wolf]

Nordic vietnam

[rocky coyote]

Modi, for one, is uninterested in continuing this good faith lmao

[arctic ermine]

It’s actually baffling that people aren’t aware that it’s Modi that really solidified the India Israel bond, he was the first pm to even visit Israel wasn’t he?

[formal pilot]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKv8GIePMPS/

professionwithmishra

"Discover Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee's insightful views on Palestine. Watch the video now!"

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Last PM from BJP

[arctic ermine]

you see everything from the lenses of religion as if these “Islamic countries” are even doing anything to help Palestinians. It’s not religious at all

[formal pilot]

They are providing Millions of Aids

[arctic ermine]

I am talking about currently

[formal pilot]

I don't like them because they eat furmunted greenland shark

[formal pilot]

Talking about politics,
-# says don't trynna be political correct

[sweet wolf]

b e d a z z l e d

[arctic ermine]

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/jordan-intercepts-iranian-missiles-headed-israel

https://www.euronews.com/2025/06/12/egypt-blocks-activists-from-march-to-gaza-to-draw-attention-to-humanitarian-crisis

This is part of the conversation

[formal pilot]

India also voted in favor of a United Nations General Assembly resolution supporting Palestine’s bid to become a full member of the UN

[arctic ermine]

Refer to my last message saying it’s not really about them being Islamic as much as it is just a political thing. You can see from how Palestinians, majority Muslims, aren’t helped by other Muslim countries because it’s politics that matter more

[formal pilot]

Sure, I'm just saying your geopolitical relevance is negligible, you're entitled to hold whatever position you like

[arctic ermine]

If India played things right politically they could be in a better position too, but no they want to buy Israeli drones and journalist targeting software Pegasus

Bro pulled the no u card

[rocky coyote]

are they or were they? the world would've been notified of a support from a large developing country like India the moment they did it in current times.

i admit, i got my dates wrong when i brought up Nehru. the PLO allyship was in 1974, 10 years after his death, and India strengthened their relationsip until the 1990s in the form of very concrete, infrastructural supports. but during the start of the 21st century, the country began coupling their support to Israel. interestingly, India opted to support Mahmoud Abbas, a prominent figure in Fatah who kept placating Israel with 2SS arrangements and clearing some space for israelis in the west bank

[arctic ermine]

Then I explained what I meant

idk man but I think the relentless boot licking is doing more harm than good

Did you talk to these countries yourself

I think u know everyone so u can tell me

I looked for it but can’t find it, when I do I’ll send it to you first

[formal pilot]

India supports 2 state solutions and it always will, india condemn the killing of innocent civilians, you might witness hate from extreme right side on twitter, but in geopolitics they're irrelevant

[rocky coyote]

tbh that's a much more tangible gain compared to supporting Palestine. despicable ik, but if every state actor had a tiny bit of conscience china would have stopped being israel's 3rd (or 2nd?) closest trade partner and their largest EV supplier

[formal pilot]

You'd be shocked to know india doesn't even consider hazbollah and hamas as a terrorist organisation, and neither israel considers Ajmal kasab (26/11 terror attack) as a terrorist

[arctic ermine]

I suppose, but the staunch, at least verbal, support they’re showing for Israel is getting pretty embarrassing. They can be like Jordan and say one thing and do another 😼

[rocky coyote]

good to know i guess? you havent answered my first question though

[arctic ermine]

No it was another

[manic juniper]

Even Finland is better at genocide than Israel

Can't think of any aspect where Israel is superior

[arctic ermine]

On Reddit?

I see, what did u use?

Ok

[manic juniper]

Ok maybe they have better food

[arctic ermine]

Stolen anyways 😭

[formal pilot]

I did, india is still supporting 2 state solutions, they believe in the existence of israel and Palestine, israel is security partner of india, because they make reliable weapons.

Supporting Palestine doesn't mean ending the relations with Israel lol

[manic juniper]

Israel needs India for its eventual showdown against Finland

[rocky coyote]

ill take you at your word if you provide examples. all i saw were hospitals and a university built decades ago

[manic juniper]

Finland is using its puppet state (USA) to arm Israel so it puts up a better fight against Finland

Finland is sadistic and enjoys warfare at its core, it will make Israel more powerful just because winning against it will be more enjoyable in the end

[rocky coyote]

trading with Israel is still one of the most lucrative geopolitic strategies, sadly.

[formal pilot]

Who'd win EU vs USA and allies

[arctic ermine]

Mhmm many still do it

Just look at Turkey lol

They have a lot to say but look at what they do behind the covers

[manic juniper]

Without Finland, USA and allies would win since the EU only has 1% of military power once you remove us

[formal pilot]

I did not get it, what hospitals?

[manic juniper]

Finland alone could defeat the US and allies, but since Finland is also compassionate it will share its glory evenly with the other EU member states

And will allow them to take part in this conflict

[turbid dome]

Is Finland a reptile

[rocky coyote]

even supposed third-worldist proponents, or the states that banded in the Bandung conference! i'm Indonesian and the fence-sitting our govt is doing is barely hidden anymore, but the radical muslims oddly don't have a bigger say about it compared to at least 20 years ago

[arctic ermine]

Hi I wait

[formal pilot]

Sounds like minecraft level propaganda originated from Finland

[manic juniper]

I did it too, since I'm a patriot I now use his same rhetoric but with social democracy and Finland

[rocky coyote]

The Palestinian government and India’s representative to Palestine, Sunil Kumar, yesterday signed protocols worth $36.1 million to build developmental projects in the fields of education, health and media.

Palestinian Minister of Education, Marwan Awartani, and Kumar signed the first agreement to build two schools in the governorates of Jenin and Tubas at a value of $2.1 million.

The second deal was signed by the Health Minister Mai Kaileh and Kumar at a value of $29 million to build the Indian hospital for orthopaedic, paediatric, gynaecology and internal medicine in Beit Sahour area in the south of the occupied West Bank.

woops forgot to link the source

[manic juniper]

Laws without welfare is toilet paper

[formal pilot]

Sounds like a W

[arctic ermine]

Yeah I trust media sources that report on it more than Reddit honestly. Plus I trust Amnesty International, Doctors Without Borders, the South African government lol that all say Israel is committing a genocide and needs to be stopped

[formal pilot]

Btw indian nukes can reach Finland within 14 minutes

[arctic ermine]

Tell them to nuke me first

😔

Btw @grand prism I’m Indian

😜

[formal pilot]

Agni V with Mach 24

[arctic ermine]

I suppose it’s because they have access to the live streamed deaths of Palestinians happening everyday

[formal pilot]

No, Finland doesn't have nukes but they're immortal, you can't conquer it

Finland is cursed like afganistan

[rocky coyote]

that was in 2020 though. who knows what change in pragmatics took place within 5 years

[arctic ermine]

Hmm in 2006? Did you know that most of Gaza’s population rn wasn’t even alive then? lol

They didn’t elect Hamas

[formal pilot]

Government is still the same, you can check official websites, they're still supporting 2 state solution

Yeah if nato gets involved india is cooked

[arctic ermine]

Most of gazas population rn is under 15

[rocky coyote]

i tend to be miffed whenever someone insists the 2SS is the most enlightened position an ally country can make, but i can make an exception for India in their current political landscape

[arctic ermine]

Probably because they aren’t able to grow old while barred and shot at

Please do

Check Gaza statistics before 2023 as well

Deaths, causes etc

[formal pilot]

Personally I have a 1 state solution for all the jews and muslims with equal rights, with no borders so both parties will get the whole country

[arctic ermine]

The Lancet, a well known scholarly journal, predicts more than 200k

Because the count has been 40k for months and months, they can’t keep up with the counting

And many many people are under the rubble

Yeah that’s the recorded number for now

The true number can only be counted once this ends

[thorny steeple]

They will fight about the flag

[arctic ermine]

Israel killed the Hamas diplomats 😭🙏

Yeah, they dont intend to have a ceasefire until they have taken over

They are flattening cities and planning resorts

[rocky coyote]

sure buddy

[formal pilot]

Palestinian flag with Star of David

[arctic ermine]

Israel will not stop at just Gaza. Look at the map on IDF uniforms, it’s of greater Israel. They want parts of Lebanon and Syria too

The Middle East will not see peace

[arctic ermine]

Terrorism may be an issue, but it also has its roots lol. You have to consider who wants to destabilise which country and for what

I guess this is where principles come in, and also why I can’t feel nationalistic for any country. Because never will it be okay for me to support genocide

[formal pilot]

My friends in the West Bank often describe distressing experiences. They say that whenever IDF soldiers conduct house inspections, they feel compelled to hide their money out of fear that it might be taken, in fact they even taken it multiple times

[arctic ermine]

Yeah, I’ve also heard of strip searches of women and children being detained

They’re tried in a military court as well

[formal pilot]

And they have an obsession with women's undergarments

[arctic ermine]

Oh yes and they even post it online

it’s jarring

[formal pilot]

Yeah i was ashamed to witness it, never wanted to be blind so bad

[turbid dome]

Israel really does have a systemic issue with pervert soldiers

[arctic ermine]

honestly, with how capable Israel is it’s kind of silly to think they wouldn’t have defeated Hamas by now. They have the ability to do provision strikes and end this quickly, but that’s not their goal. You can see with how they eliminated hezbollah leaders by just attacking specific parts of apartments

[turbid dome]

“Soldiers” being a generous word here instead of terrorist

[formal pilot]

https://youtu.be/Yq5N4s1DxnE?si=IJSWK0JByR5riNti

[arctic ermine]

And Israel has described all these innocent civilian deaths as necessary , when it could very easily have avoided them

Look up “where’s daddy” programme and lavender ai

[formal pilot]

I'm sure Reuters is reliable source

I trust it blindly

[turbid dome]

Disturbing stuff how they intentionally kill civilians

[arctic ermine]

They wear it on their forehead but people still choose to be blind

[turbid dome]

“Reuters is Hamas”

[arctic ermine]

I’d suggest you look at Israel’s precision strikes on hezbollah leaders too

[turbid dome]

Those weren’t even that precise, the pager attacks were a violation of international law and maimed and killed children too

[formal pilot]

Wym it is the single most trusted source of information

[last cypress]

What's the situation in Israel now?

[turbid dome]

My eyes see that Israel is doing bad stuff so my eyes are Hamas

[formal pilot]

That's wild

[formal pilot]

Your eyes are beautiful my g

[arctic ermine]

Hmm I was thinking about something else

[turbid dome]

Ohhh ok

[formal pilot]

Non secular nation pretending to be democracy

[arctic ermine]

It might’ve been a Hamas leader actually, they killed him in an apartment in Lebanon I think?

I’ll check

[formal pilot]

Yeah blud threw slippers on drones, at they end drone hugged him

[arctic ermine]

That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying they have the necessary tools to seek out Hamas and defeat them easily. But their aim is not to defeat Hamas but to do that AND take over Gaza while removing the population

Um, they were in markets outside ?

[formal pilot]

Yes

[arctic ermine]

Do you live with the people you see at your grocery store?

Honestly this all comes down to one thing. It is NOT OKAY to kill civilians just because there is one terrorist walking around in that area. 1 terrorist may die but so will 2 innocents

How are you any different from the said terrorist then?

[last cypress]

i saw some news, is there anyone k the truth , Is the damage serious?

[formal pilot]

I believe Ai used to identify the Hamas member was the worst, it mostly relied on location, if a hamas member goes to market to buy vegetables, ai will consider people around him as potential hamas member

[arctic ermine]

Sure, I don’t agree with killing innocents no matter what. But by that idea I also think Israel is a terrorist state too

[arctic ermine]

I think that’s the “where’s daddy” one where they track them and wait for them to go home

And then they bomb them so their entire family dies

[turbid dome]

That was bad too. There was also the one which waits till they return home to see their families, and then kills their whole family

[arctic ermine]

Ah that’s the one I’m thinking of

[formal pilot]

Yeah that's correct, Lavender and where's daddy was used to bomb innocents

[last cypress]

China will be part of the rebuilding process ~~

[arctic ermine]

Get rid of Gaza? In what way

Also Iran has been working on a pretty bit bomb since Netanyahu has been saying they’re working on a bomb since 1992 😭

[formal pilot]

Yeah that was an Ai generated target, it's so sad to witness

[turbid dome]

At least they’re honest that they’re genocidal

[arctic ermine]

Can I be honest, Hamas won’t exist if Palestinians were allowed to live in peace

[formal pilot]

US intelligence literally said that iran is not building a nuclear weapon, like 2 weeks ago

[arctic ermine]

Also did you know gazans aren’t allowed to collect rainwater?

Israel said so

[arctic ermine]

💀 the workers gave up

[formal pilot]

The situation was similar during saddam's time, they lied about the weapon of mass destruction to invade them

[arctic ermine]

Let me send u a video

[last cypress]

yup but in this situation Rus & China has chance to support a small nuclear wapon

[formal pilot]

Trump contradicts spy chief Tulsi Gabbard on Iran's nuclear program | Reuters https://share.google/N1IzuWHr62QZ1XpXJ

Iran also has sold reasons to build a nuke

If my neighbour is threatening a regime change, I'd build a nuke

[arctic ermine]

America doesn’t need burning down atp

[formal pilot]

Yeah i know about it, but US intelligence literally said they aren't building nukes

Computer attack

Sure buddy

[formal pilot]

Yeah, it's getting bad for india too since the USA is getting close to Pakistan

Sure

[arctic ermine]

India getting isolated 💔

[formal pilot]

Nukes are pookie weapons, they're needed for peace

[formal pilot]

Atleast they got the nukes

[arctic ermine]

It’s okay, soon enough Israel will be at Europe’s doorstep and they’ll have to say hell nah we ain’t supporting u anymore

[formal pilot]

This month france will also recognise Palestine as a state

[arctic ermine]

they’re the first to call on Israel’s right to self defence when Israel attacks others first tho

👀

[arctic ermine]

Yeah the us was threatening them against it

Even if they don’t give as much aid they are still supporters of Israel I mean

[manic juniper]

Ukraine isn't committing genocide which is good

[arctic ermine]

They say Israel is conducting a “preemptive strike” and if someone else does the same to them it’s an attack

Yes they are

Nono it isn’t

[manic juniper]

Unfortunately someone has to defend the children that risk kidnapping by Russia

And USA isn't fulfilling its part of the Budapest memorandum as it should

Conscription is mandatory

[quiet bobcat]

Ok guys, update me

[manic juniper]

What, they could lose their own children to Russia, they are obligated to fight

Dogshit statement

Live next to Russia and say that again

Everyone is pro-Russia as long as they don't border Russia

[formal pilot]

Yes I do, and I still believe they have better laws and morality which makes them a better place to live

[manic juniper]

Good, don't complain if you get rightfully and forcefully conscripted though

[rocky coyote]

my thesis hearing is scheduled on monday

i got work on the weekends

[formal pilot]

Epic delete

[rocky coyote]

accidental reply

anw this shit will end me

[manic juniper]

UK literally buttfucked Argentina over the Falklands

[obtuse perch]

Morality? naaah

[quiet bobcat]

I don't know how someone from USA or europe can support Russia

[manic juniper]

Human rights are in Ukraine, if Ukraine doesn't exist there are none

[formal pilot]

Yes I've seen it, i hope Ukraine only buys European arms, otherwise I'd be a great money laundering scheme

USA gives public money to Ukraine

Ukraine buys weapons from private american arms companies

[manic juniper]

He's Indian, it's normal to support Russia there

[formal pilot]

They don't kill jews muslim and homosexuals

No, read it again until you understand it

[obtuse perch]

Ouroboros

[quiet bobcat]

India is a member of BRICS

[obtuse perch]

this is not wut morality abt for me but ye

[quiet bobcat]

BRICS means: Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa

[grave nymph]

dying for zelensky cocaine blocks is mandatory now

[formal pilot]

If you're against the killings of innocent civilians it's not that hard to see how russia is bad

That doesn't mean we should stop getting cheap oil from them

[arctic ermine]

Trump when he sees Netanyahu: bricked up

[manic juniper]

Unfortunately the world is full of edgelords and they like Russia

[quiet bobcat]

Does it remember you something?

URSS

Soviet Union

[formal pilot]

No, I'm dyslexic

[quiet bobcat]

Russia or Ukraine?

Now, everything is clear

[manic juniper]

He only supports Russia

[arctic ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-22011689

NOOO IMBED FAIL

[manic juniper]

Take the L and get out

Save India

[quiet bobcat]

So, i'm asking it again: Russia or Ukraine?

[arctic ermine]

India or British empire 👀

[formal pilot]

Our country can't afford to reject affordable oil or weapons over moral debates. When resources are limited, practicality has to come first, yk how it works

As an individual I'm completely against atrocities committed by Russia

[quiet bobcat]

Both? Nah...

[arctic ermine]

Me when I’m telling the guy being beaten up “you’ll be ok!! Hang in there!!!” While also patting the one beating him up on the back

[formal pilot]

Geopolitics in nutshell

[quiet bobcat]

Ok

[arctic ermine]

It’s okay I don’t make sense anyways

[quiet bobcat]

Where are you from?

Wait, @grand prism do you hate USA?

[formal pilot]

It's alright you're good at expressing your position, eventually it'll get even better

[uneven citrus]

ni hao serious shyts

[formal pilot]

I've seen you waving the Mexican flag in USA

[uneven citrus]

haven't hopped the border yet twin 😹

[quiet bobcat]

I know that USA has tactical operations on middle east using proxies, and Russia also does include their proxies

The well known "War by proxy"

There's a problem

While USA is overpowered and "peaceful", the other uses it's power to spread fear and death for non-muslim people...

This war between Israel and Iran has this backend

[quiet bobcat]

Israel is trying to stop Iran nuclear weapons program.

Israel is a proxy

[quiet bobcat]

From USA

Iran smells like a proxy from Russia

I agree with that

But i'm digging deeper man...

A war between Iran and USA would be catastrophic

USA trapped in this war will keep them busy, while Russia empowers it's axis, BRICS

Using DREX and other stupid topics

I think so

They are from islam

They'll never surrender

Remember, their religion is violent

They have jihad...

Woman bro, woman

[tulip flicker]

do you even know what that means?

[thorny steeple]

I don't remember tbh, I think blessing or something

[tulip flicker]

i missed u john

[thorny steeple]

Me too you bloody mate, I suppose it's been awhile eh?

[tulip flicker]

it's fighting for the sake of god and it was only used at the time of prophets and all

[tulip flicker]

frrrrrrrrr how have u been

@night cedar stop it

[thorny steeple]

Definitely quite something Welp

[thorny steeple]

Well life's been a static rollercoaster

[night cedar]

that reaction was a decade ago

[tulip flicker]

damn

[cloud moat]

Hi

[night cedar]

hello

[tulip flicker]

i'm lagging

[cloud moat]

How are you all

[night cedar]

we are dead serious about dead people rn

[cloud moat]

Oh

[thorny steeple]

Why

[tulip flicker]

i thought u meant it's bad

Spark_Babysad

[thorny steeple]

I meant and how's life treating brahim the Greatest

[thorny steeple]

Autocorrect is a pain

[tulip flicker]

i am finally free brother, wbu John dostovsdsjdbs;lfky

[tulip flicker]

true

[thorny steeple]

Tired and passed the institution called highschool

[tulip flicker]

i just finished it yesterday hopefully i'll pass

[night cedar]

we didn't have autocorrection option duing exam, bruhh i forgot the spelling of few words

[tulip flicker]

did u spell know as now?

[thorny steeple]

Hopefully because if you don't you won't be able build your own Antarctic civilization

[night cedar]

probably

[tulip flicker]

i hope not

[tulip flicker]

rip

[thorny steeple]

Same I kinda is a pain using the word texter because more complex words are a pain sometimes

[thorny steeple]

Definitely

[tulip flicker]

is anyone alive still?

[thorny steeple]

Who?

[tulip flicker]

people we know

[thorny steeple]

True

[tulip flicker]

sometimes i wonder if u really understand english but then i remember ur old english skill

[night cedar]

do you know dave Smith? bud going viral in twitter, for his response to ben shapiro's statements and also an invitation to a debate

[thorny steeple]

Old English skill who does this youngling think he is!, I'm 18 ofc the zoomer

[tulip flicker]

screw this

[thorny steeple]

Definitely screw yourself lmao

[thorny steeple]

Nahh not that deep in knowing who Dave Smith is

[true lark]

Nooo ugly roles now

[thorny steeple]

Definitely Nia

[true lark]

That's not gold!

[thorny steeple]

True well at least you noticed

[true lark]

Hry though

[thorny steeple]

It's well, 3AM wby

[true lark]

I have been arguing about maths for four hours

[thorny steeple]

Which section of math ➗➖

[true lark]

Probability

[thorny steeple]

Alright

[jolly agate]

I think you discuss maths

[true lark]

This was definitely arguing 🤣

[jolly agate]

😭😭why argue when you can discuss it’s literally maths

And no one fully understands maths

[true lark]

Well that was exactly the problem here

It was pretty basic facts, proven from just the fact that 1+1, 1*1, 1÷1 are all 1, which I would say most people agree on

[jolly agate]

what was the counter argument

[true lark]

That would be very complicated to explain

[jolly agate]

It’s aright then

[true lark]

The point was to prove that rolling two twelve sided dies 600 times each (if properly random), and one six sided die 600 times would on average land on one the same amount of times

The point was proving it with just that

The counterside argued it could not be proven without simply assuming more things to be true

[jolly agate]

GPT is probably the best to do these kinds of debate

[true lark]

No?

[thorny steeple]

Indeed

[true lark]

Gpt is definitely the worst place for this, it is a predictive algorithm, it doesn't store whole explanations like that, it just predicts the logical answer and a random bs justification

[thorny steeple]

You need real human experience in mathematics

[true lark]

Yeah, and even though this was a four hour argument, once I had proven my point its not like we were angry at either person, arguing is simply the more efficient form of discussing

[heady dragon]

I recently read the mit research papers on "how gpt effects our brain" It is shown that the person who uses gpt more has the weaker neural cognitive paths and its shrinks the dark matter in our brain which is used in decision making

[thorny steeple]

Definitely

[true lark]

I read the same MIT study, this did not take into account prior knowledge of the subject and was generally a pretty subpar study, enough to prove this needs more funding and proper studies, which was their point, but not enough to definitively prove that it diminishes brain usage

[topaz yew]

whatssupp Guys, how did I win about 10 online?

[heady dragon]

But if we think practically if we don't use our decision making critical thinking skill or other things that put pressure on brain eventually those neural pathways will get weaker. What's your views on this?

[rocky coyote]

pretty sure she's referring to the researched brains' lack of existing knowledge on the topic they used chatgpt on. the proposed "cognitive bankruptcy" never factored learning accommodations to really determine whether they used the AI as an assistance tool or relieve them entirely off their workload.

[rocky coyote]

to be fair, a primary topic of the article is the comparison between high functioning and low functioning users. high functioning chatgpt users, according to the study at least, are able to repay their debt with their well-equipped intellectual curiosity to explore the contents of generated answers further. they aren't piling as many as the low functioning ones because AI acted for them as helping hands, not gloves that replaced them as a whole

[turbid dome]

Yeah the extent I use AI is limited , I try to avoid it entirely but occasionally I’ll view the sources it presents and compare them to my own

[rocky coyote]

people ive seen talking about this either dismiss it as an over-elaborate research to prove a conclusion "anyone with a brain" could arrive to, or worry too much that AI will warp your ability to think like its the Beacon of Desire but for instant knowledge.

[turbid dome]

I do think it rots your brain slowly tbh, if you form a habit of relying on what AI says instead of doing your own resource and source evaluation, then you slowly lose those skills over time

[rocky coyote]

that's easy guesswork. relying too much on AI until it dictates your thoughts has been a scientifically and artistically explored notion since ages

but there aren't many proposals on how to incentivize the human passion in education so they can seal any desire to take shortcuts. rejuvenating it to be more engaging to the students and less taxing to the teachers

a core part of the process is to make getting low grades less consequential

[turbid dome]

I mean, that’s part of it, I think another thing is actually setting realistic expectations on AI and what it can do and can be expected to do, as well as teaching people about its questionable reliability

[heady yarrow]

as Einstein may have suggested(or not),never memorize what you can easily look up

[rocky coyote]

you'll need intense social programming to teach people advanced literacy to do that, especially subtleties and nuances in academic language choice, but that'll require healing the reputation of non-exact studies to begin with

[turbid dome]

True

[rocky coyote]

i major in Humanities in a country that's actively devaluing our contributive potential

oh wait that's just everywhere on earth

exhibit A:

[high raven]

Yikes

[olive fractal]

some models also try to trim the messages saved in their context and approximate what they’ve omitted

[high raven]

N=54 just isn't enough

[heady yarrow]

I agree you

[high raven]

It's a real issue though and warrants more research, the root cause is just way too recent for any substantial evidence to be put out for or against the claim

I do believe it has a substantial effect though, way too many people, students in particular, are outsourcing any form of critical thinking to chatgpt

It's just easier

[heady yarrow]

as the abstract suggests, it doesn't entirely discourage reliance on tools like Chargpt,after all, as the quote here

[rocky coyote]

thats not a suggestion to optimize AI utility though, thats just what the higher competence group demonstrates when they use chatgpt to enhance their brain skills

[formal pilot]

I'm self proclaimed ethnicity expert

Perfect score

[feral river]

I was so upset he can't even decide to use military to annex all of them

one of the biggest reason he lose my support

that's a shame of the United States military

[prisma cipher]

Putin kinda call him smart. Or something

[prisma cipher]

Ai don't replace simple working, what is surprise. For replace people who do something by hand need to be robototick revolution.

[manic juniper]

Yes I know that, not all countries can afford to boycott

Most of the oil consumed is from different sources, it's just Hungary and Slovakia that keep using Russian pipelines

[tidal elk]

Guys anyone knows Russian language?

[manic juniper]

This was 2022

There are virtually no imports anymore besides those two traitors

[tidal elk]

Im serious bro

You are ?

[manic juniper]

Hungary and Slovakia

[feral river]

whatever Russia would sold its energy to us and India

India will sell it back to Europe

[formal pilot]

India was providing nearly 2% of Europe's daily oil consumption during 2023-2024, i don't have the date for 2025

It was basically refined russian oil

[manic juniper]

Doesn't seem the case, can't see India or China listed anywhere so even if true it's not significant

[formal pilot]

400k barrels per day
Europe needs 18.5M barrels per day

[manic juniper]

Even then it's India and China that would benefit, not Russia

[feral river]

well we got the number it was very significant but we didn't sell it back

[manic juniper]

I don't think Russia is getting paid the premium price it got from the EU

[feral river]

we just like leveraged the trade between the west and we choose to import more from Russia

even in here you can find many Russian grocery stores

[manic juniper]

Yes I heard that, that's good

[feral river]

that basically was being established after 2022

[manic juniper]

That's gas, not oil

[feral river]

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202501/1326580.shtml

Shanghai launches inspections on self-claimed ‘Russian goods’ stores with those without license ordered to suspend operation

well there's a lot Russian stores after 2022

right after the Ukraine war breaks out

[manic juniper]

I know

[formal pilot]

EU (pre sanctions) $100-$110 dollars per barrel

Now india is paying $53-$72 per barrel
🤡

[manic juniper]

All of those countries are producers, not proxies. Except maybe that "other" category that can't be argued unless we know the exact numbers

[manic juniper]

And these were the lowest prices available to us oil-addicted freaks

[gritty echo]

Hmmmmm

[feral river]

at least they can sold these

[gritty echo]

Why then when Russia cut the flow they didn't find anything to use in their buildings

[feral river]

the worst scenario wasn't regarding to the price but whether if they can find a partner to sold these things continuously

[manic juniper]

What does Armenia have to do with USA or the EU lol

They are literally under Russia's yoke

[feral river]

oh oh there's us

[manic juniper]

Russia isn't doing well at all

[feral river]

🇨🇳 PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA REMEMBER ?

[formal pilot]

Europe is still getting the refined russian oil at a similar price

[gritty echo]

[feral river]

lmao

they are still gonna surrender if there's no Oppenheimer

[manic juniper]

Russians on this server either don't live in Russia (Swan) or are Russian ultranationalists (Neyro)

Very fucking reliable to talk to them

[manic juniper]

Neyro denies confirmed war crimes and believes in fictional history

https://apnews.com/article/russia-economy-recession-ukraine-conflict-9d105fd1ac8c28908839b01f7d300ebd

[feral river]

LAW/RULE WITHOUT ENFORCEMENT IS TOILET PAPER

[formal pilot]

Russia is currently facing significant economic challenges. The job market is struggling, and many people are finding it hard to afford basic necessities

[thorny steeple]

Also Swan doesn't like me talking about Palestine

[formal pilot]

Currency is collapsing

[gritty echo]

Russians handle worse situations than this

[manic juniper]

Strange, he used to be pro-Palestine

Israel bombing residential buildings bad, Russia bombing residential buildings good

[thorny steeple]

That's Persia

[feral river]

war crime is not under any jurisdiction of any institution which is holding the absolute control on the state's responsibility

therefore it is a toilet paper

a toilet paper law without enforcement

[manic juniper]

They were able to invest in their own currency up until few months ago, now they can't afford this anymore

[formal pilot]

last time UK and US involvement overthrew the democratically elected PM which resulted in a revolution lol

(The US and UK helped orchestrate a coup that ousted Iran's democratically elected Prime Minister in 1779 )

[gritty echo]

These memes are so funny

[thorny steeple]

Thank you means 😏

[formal pilot]

Kukumbr is consistent, both are good for him

[manic juniper]

I appreciate that

[feral river]

bad or good defined by winners

L does not have the right to define anything

[feral river]

because they simply does not exist on the map

[formal pilot]

No, my Russian friend said it lol, but yeah i also checked the news they're saying russian economy is struggling

[formal pilot]

I'm slow, I'm not you as you

[manic juniper]

Is he a leftist?

[formal pilot]

At this point putin just wants to stay in power that's why he's getting involved in conflicts

[feral river]

yeah what you can do about it

[formal pilot]

He's USSR sympathizer

[feral river]

the supreme leader Putin is gonna annex Ukraine very soon

[gritty echo]

He loves eating radiation then

[manic juniper]

Your source will soon be dismissed then

[gritty echo]

https://tenor.com/view/reactor-rbwr-reactor-explodes-gif-8455581345930100726

[formal pilot]

What was your claim again?? I didn't read it

[manic juniper]

Leftist sources aren't accepted anymore

[feral river]

that's in ukraine not Russia

[gritty echo]

USSR time

I'm talking about,

[feral river]

even that happened in Ukraine, USSR helped them to settle everything

[feral river]

yeah Ukraninian Soviet Socialist Republic

[manic juniper]

Didn't the USSR cover it up for a month

[gritty echo]

After destroying everything,

[feral river]

that's not what they want to destroy

[gritty echo]

All radioactive fuck all Europe and turkey

[feral river]

that just happened, you can't say there's a storm coming along

and it's their bad for all of these

that's bullshit

[formal pilot]

Blud is quite vicious

[gritty echo]

After Chernobyl cancer results rise up more than hundred percent in black sea region

[feral river]

they seems to not give a fuck about these guys

they don't have to

[formal pilot]

That's why he got extra limbs

[feral river]

we don't even have to who the heck need to care these guys besides themselves

[manic juniper]

Is this supposed to be comedy

[feral river]

why you think we hold the responsibility to care about their shit

who the heck cares dude

[gritty echo]

Yeah they have to because it caused an effect everywhere

[feral river]

well nah they don't give a fuck it's not their country

if Turkey is paying taxes to USSR then yeah

that's their business, but obviously they don't pay that shit

[gritty echo]

If north Korea dropped a nuclear bomb to south Korea and after that all radioactive dust would come to your country

What will china do,

[feral river]

well none of that would happen because if they do that we nuke them until they disappear from the map

you have nukes ? we have bigger nukes

[gritty echo]

Then drop everything

[feral river]

we have nukes that could destroy you with other guys

[gritty echo]

No one cares

[gritty echo]

Yeah USA , Israel, Russia and other countries have too it

[feral river]

that's how it works

[thorny steeple]

are you from turkiye?

[gritty echo]

Yeah

[thorny steeple]

Pakistan and china have it too

[feral river]

yeah we all have that shit we don't even have nukes, we have biological stuff, chemical stuff and radiological stuff

even we have space forces

what makes you think it's hard to destroy the entire earth

[gritty echo]

Others country's too

[feral river]

a single country is capable to do that

[thorny steeple]

Covid 19 +

[thorny steeple]

only 9 countries

[feral river]

especially we are the second most powerful state in the world

[gritty echo]

But your army isn't tested in the serious warzone

[thorny steeple]

The first soon (economically )

[manic juniper]

Burden of proof 📜

[thorny steeple]

do you hate usa and china?

[gritty echo]

Russian army on the zone ,

American army on the zone

[feral river]

we don't have to but you can see their capability that's opened and mostly tested with Russians, Koreans

[thorny steeple]

Pakistan with Indian army on zone too

[gritty echo]

Turkish army on the zone , Pakistani army on the zone

[feral river]

well we have military activities for all the time basically

[gritty echo]

But China's army isnt on the zone

[thorny steeple]

do you like Pakistan

[gritty echo]

You are just watching some shit

[gritty echo]

Pakistan pilots are so good btw

I like their war pilots

[thorny steeple]

They are on their computers

[feral river]

a very large nuclear powered ship coming at their border is shit ?

even they got scared off

[thorny steeple]

one time AKP party said Pakistan is our no 1 friend

[gritty echo]

I didn't like akp,

[thorny steeple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5IdmN4nXPU

[feral river]

Pakistan used our fighter jet to take down the Indians

they did very recent did you see that

[gritty echo]

But we have army deals with pakistan

[feral river]

our fighter jet takes down Indian jets

[gritty echo]

Like drones guns and the other stuffs

[thorny steeple]

yes, pakistan and turkye have good relation

[gritty echo]

It can be but their pilots are so well,

[feral river]

I didn't say these aren't coming from you, and that jet is ours and is manufactured in our country, we sold to them and they use it to destroy Indian jets

[gritty echo]

Muhammed Ali Cinnah was a Atatürk lover

[feral river]

that's none of our business lol but we made good jets

[formal pilot]

expected GDP growth rate of Russia in 2025 is 1.4%, I genuinely believe that it is not that good for a GDP 2.2 trillion (nominal)

[thorny steeple]

Gun behind guns is more important then guns

[thorny steeple]

Man behind guns is more important then guns0

[feral river]

you can't say we have to export some pilots to Pakistan that's bullshit

nobody is willing to go that hell fighting with Indians

and no benefit provided

[gritty echo]

It is true,

[thorny steeple]

yes, Pakistan sended help in turkish war of independece too

[gritty echo]

We took help from so many countries yeah

Atatürk scammed Russians it is so funny

He acts like turkey will be a communist country and getting Allie with the USSR

After Lenin's death and during the Stalin regime, all relationships between the country are going deep

[thorny steeple]

whom do you like other than AKP party

[thorny steeple]

you have both russians and europe as ally and traded with both

[gritty echo]

I'm not like any party in turkey it's all the same thing with different looks

[gritty echo]

Yeah,

[gritty echo]

We have to in this geopolitics

[thorny steeple]

then what do you want

what kind of policy

[gritty echo]

I can't describe it well

Our party leaders are just like traitors

[thorny steeple]

european western type or islamic party or Islamic policies

[gritty echo]

Nah religion and government should be divided

Any government can easily manipulate people with religion and then they can do everything they want

It is bad for country

[thorny steeple]

Isalm not expolited as politics Islamic rules base system

no sermon should be delivered in politics you are right

[gritty echo]

Leaders using it like a tool

Even just look at Islam there are so many cults just only want to earn a lot of money and scamming people

And people are believing them because they are not reading the Quran and don't know anything about it and they are scared to say something opposite from them

Even if there are cults that are saying something not in the Quran they are using Islam like a tool to fill their pockets

[feral river]

why would we need some backward piece of shit in government

[gritty echo]

Atatürk tried to end all of these things , he killed many of the clowns

[feral river]

and these are all fictional stories made by ancient guys who want to take over the region

[gritty echo]

But his life was not long enough to stop this shit

He died so early ,

And after than everything go fucked up

[thorny steeple]

do you think china is sending aid or intel to Iran

[gritty echo]

[feral river]

no, we just doing trade as we do to everyone

[thorny steeple]

What about Erdogan?

[feral river]

there's no reason we have to help Iran

[gritty echo]

Erdoğan using religion for tool,

[thorny steeple]

Not true

[feral river]

proof it

[gritty echo]

Even the government has tons of corruption,

[thorny steeple]

you like french society and policies

[gritty echo]

People are hungry , rich is richer poor is poorest

[feral river]

we cooperated very much about war on terror launched by americans

things aren't not enough to these people in Xinjiang you think ?

can you see a little bit islamic influence over the Chinese society

[gritty echo]

Even he is destroying Turkish culture

[feral river]

none of that exist

[gritty echo]

Our factories and ores sold other country companies

[thorny steeple]

how is your culture getting destroyed?

[feral river]

even Chinese muslims need to study Xi Jinping thought

[thorny steeple]

they are privatizing it

[thorny steeple]

yes

[thorny steeple]

Your gov representing ur president condemned Israel’s actions and said that it shouldn't have attacked Iran

[gritty echo]

It is a bad thing for a country, because we have enough manpower and tech to produce all of it

[manic juniper]

They leave Greek statues and artifacts in the open, they get damaged by the rain and the weather

[feral river]

that's word basically means nothing

[gritty echo]

But Erdoğan selling them

[thorny steeple]

Society?

[manic juniper]

They should be in a museum

[feral river]

reading the ppt

[gritty echo]

Akp emposes Arabic culture to Turkey

[feral river]

and does nothing

[gritty echo]

We have millions of migration people

[thorny steeple]

it is good, privatization improve, gov do corruption privatization improve it

[gritty echo]

And he gave them citizenship

[thorny steeple]

like what dort of culture

[feral river]

lmao privatization only worsen it so far

privatization means capitalists and business owners are able to use money to influence politicians

[thorny steeple]

Also what he did to the Hagia Sophia 😭

[gritty echo]

Nah it is bad we need our companies to production they are fucking economy more and more

[thorny steeple]

privatization improve it in democractic countries, in dictatorship it may work

[feral river]

in most western democracies it's very hard to pick a senator or representitive that is backed by the workers or farmers

[thorny steeple]

Um really? But your words mean a lot?

[feral river]

but mostly business owners, entrepreneurs

[gritty echo]

Why are other country companies taking more than selling me expensive because of Erdoğan taking black money

[thorny steeple]

That's bad very bad I always hate it for some reason

[manic juniper]

Yes, current Turkey doesn't seem interested in preservation

[gritty echo]

Even 128 billion dollars is missing ,

[feral river]

because they control the capital, and to be a senator, or to win an election need support from that

then they can be elected

if you are broke ass poor shit you can't even be the candidate

[gritty echo]

No one knows where this money is, Erdoğan just robbed all resercous country have

[feral river]

that's the reality of your "democracy"

[thorny steeple]

because you need money to improve your finance, you dont have enough capital, ig

[gritty echo]

Nah

[thorny steeple]

so should he convert it back to churchnor monarchy

[gritty echo]

I know this country's history, we had very nice leaders uprising our economy and invest in nice things and take care of people

They followed Atatürk s way

We need follow Ataturk's way

[feral river]

privatization basically means reduce government interfere that it do worsen the corruption because once you reduce it there must be less people do the supervision job and more could be corrupted by bribery

[gritty echo]

But erdogan just fucking everything

[feral river]

privatization does not fucking relate to crack down on corruption

to solve corruption you have many ways

[gritty echo]

Yeah it is a thing like that

They are just robbing the country

[feral river]

idk since when people do not consider political donations are not corruption

[gritty echo]

They are talking about Islam and nationality but they are the biggest traitors in turkey

[feral river]

in here if you are a politician or a mayor or something, if you receive any donations from other people, that's corruption and you will be fired and sentenced by the law

[thorny steeple]

The best approach for nationatlization depends on the specific context, the type of industry, and the goals of the government or poltics. There is no answer In some cases, privatization may be more effective, while in others, nationalization may be more appropriate, it depends on case to case

[gritty echo]

Our factories, our military bases , our industry, our tech , our history , our culture is faring away in every moment

[thorny steeple]

Nah just keep it as a museum. Do you like it when mosques turned into churches in Europe for example? None likes to see religious sites desecrated. They should remain as they are

[gritty echo]

those working in government departments are participating with favoritism

[thorny steeple]

it was already a mosque from years

[gritty echo]

Everyone takes their relatives

[thorny steeple]

so it doesnt really matter

[gritty echo]

They do whatever they want, whether it's legal or not.

[thorny steeple]

you need better govt departments

[feral river]

well it depends what is your goal, corruption doesn't really means bad, it was a certain phenomenon that will happen in most countries because people do want more stuff for themselves

[gritty echo]

Erdogan does not even comply with the constitution because the judiciary is not even independent

[feral river]

like in military junta their organization survives by corruption, without corruption they can't run over the country

[gritty echo]

All the uneducated and ignorant people in the government were taken in

[thorny steeple]

Church, mosque then museum. It should remain a museum to preserve its heritage

[gritty echo]

They dealt blow after blow to the army

[feral river]

so do not misinterpret the corruption, it was an objective phenomenon and in most countries it was pretty bad and it harm the people's interest, some need corruption to run the country

[thorny steeple]

where are you from

[gritty echo]

In Türkiye, merit is not taken into consideration, relatives are taken into consideration.

[feral river]

political stage is not somewhere you can play the game of justice

[thorny steeple]

France

[gritty echo]

It is like a fuck

[thorny steeple]

how are you running your country then

[gritty echo]

Türkiye's natural resource reserves and workforce are so strong that they could not end exploitation

[thorny steeple]

do you have oil

[formal pilot]

https://skribbl.io/?eJCi0qAS

[vapid hare]

good boy

[gritty echo]

Even before the heavy industry was established during the time of Ataturk, this country was producing its own weapons and aircraft.

[thorny steeple]

You are blaming fanaticism in religion, right?

[manic juniper]

I think he's blaming nepotism

[gritty echo]

But all of them were closed after Atatürk's death.

Yes,

There are tons of things like that

[feral river]

what would you need a museum of perserving culture from some immigrants

[manic juniper]

Is it true that Erdogan used to sell watermelons

Is it true that he is from Georgia

[feral river]

and those are totally load of shit does not have benefit to your country

it's been nice for all the time to not expel them out of the great France

[thorny steeple]

Yes he needs to preserve the culture : byzantine, Ottoman.…

[manic juniper]

A museum boosts tourism, many money

[feral river]

btw didn't you guys send some of them to new France ?

[gritty echo]

Atatürk saw everything

[thorny steeple]

It seems like we are bothering you sir? What the hell you are talking about

[gritty echo]

And give a speech to Turkish youth

[feral river]

huh you won't have this problem if you deported them like what Spain have done

[gritty echo]

Turkish Youth! Your first duty is ever to preserve and defend the National independence, the Turkish Republic.

That is the only basis of your existence and your future. This basis contains your most precious treasure. In the future, too, there will be ill-will, both in the country itself and abroad, which will try to tear this treasure from you. If one day you are compelled to defend your independence and the Republic, then, in order to fulfill your duty, you will have to look beyond the possibilities and conditions in which you might find yourself. It may be that these conditions and possibilities are altogether unfavorable. It may be that the enemies who desire to destroy your independence and your Republic represent the strongest force that the earth has ever seen; that they have through craft and force, taken possession of all the fortresses and arsenals of the Fatherland; that all its armies are scattered and the country actually and completely occupied.

Assuming, in order to look still darker possibilities in the face, that those who hold the power of Government within the country have fallen into error, that they are fools or traitors, yes, even that these leading persons may identify their personal interests with the enemy's political goals, it might happen that the nation came into complete privation, into the most extreme distress; that it found itself in a condition of ruin and complete exhaustion.

Even under those circumstances, O Turkish child of future generations! It is your duty to save the independence, the Turkish Republic.

The strength that you will need for this is mighty in the noble blood which flows in your veins.

[thorny steeple]

They re Coming to China soon.. Stay tuned

[feral river]

we are welcome, machine gun's up for all the time

sometimes we need to test it out but we didn't find somebody yet

[gritty echo]

It is a very epic speech from Atatürk

[thorny steeple]

We are going to see

[feral river]

ok

[thorny steeple]

While I am talking about the culture you and this China dude are calling for murder... What s the relation uhnuh

[hallow sable]

[thorny steeple]

Open your brain:It's for preserving the Turkish culture

What's happening in china? Update me

Their own people?

[manic juniper]

Yes

[thorny steeple]

Muslims?

In order to make them change their religion?

I thought they stopped doing shit few years ago but yea

That's terrible

[feral river]

we don't really kill them but dare they can say or do some islamic stuff

go straight to jail they are disturbing the social order

[thorny steeple]

I just googled it yep

[feral river]

yeah totally worked

[thorny steeple]

I see you are happy

[feral river]

I even have a friend who work in the camps, he earns 3000 USD a month

he's working in Xinjiang

[thorny steeple]

I don't need to google that. I know their governments were always complicit just like in the Israeli-Palestinian situation

[quick spear]

Wow, It's personality

[thorny steeple]

Rahul Gandhi explains how Modi surrendered against Pakistan

bro who needs water here, dont send your dirty water here

Punjab have water from water palnts

it will extend to sindh

gov is setting up new plants for agriculture and we have dams here

we have storage for 4-8 months if you stop whole water

you cant stop water for next 5 years

you can have that water

[high raven]

Cmol I'm deducing that you're from Pakistan?

[thorny steeple]

Its part of corridor

pakistan have dams from 1970s and 1960s

ever heard of distilled water and there are many other things you can do

no one cares about that treaty

[high raven]

Maybe don't then

[thorny steeple]

Treated Wastewater:
Description: Reuse treated municipal or agricultural wastewater for irrigation.
Considerations: Requires proper treatment to remove contaminants, adhering to WHO guidelines for safe use. Infrastructure for treatment plants is necessary.

Desalinated Water:
Description: Remove salt from seawater or brackish groundwater for irrigation use.
Considerations: Energy-intensive and costly, but viable for high-value crops in coastal areas. Reverse osmosis is a common method.
Feasibility: Used in Gulf countries and parts of Australia; less common in Pakistan due.

there are other ways for crops

[high raven]

"Lol u had to google that"

[formal pilot]

[thorny steeple]

i recently heard there are investments from azerbaijan, turkiye, and they arent taking any more loans instead they are paying back their loans

treaty explain kashmir will not be integral part of india and you made it integral by changing from disputed terrortory, so it was suspended by india acts now you gave them support to suspend it

Tarbela Dam, the largest earth-filled dam in the world, and Mangla Dam, which has the second-highest storage capacity. Other significant dams include Diamer-Bhasha Dam, Warsak Dam, and Hub Dam

You can check this

also you can verify it

[high raven]

Room temperature IQ, can't have a sensible conversation with anyone about anything without resorting to personal insults

Genuinely pathetic

Kukumber do better, just for once

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[formal pilot]

We should discuss biology more frequently

[thorny steeple]

I don't find a topic to discuss and share love at the same time

[thorny steeple]

What about physics 😻

[high raven]

Ooh that reminds me, did you manage to fix whatever was wrong with your PC?

[thorny steeple]

the 1947 war was a revolt by kashmiris when Kashmir became part of Pakistan like Gilgit Baltistan by local people choice then India started war,

then next war, Operation was initiated by Pakistan at borders to take some points, indian leadership was underpressure to initiate war and then indians army crossed borders,

1971 war when there was civil war, some miniorities escaped from Pakistan then India initiated the war,

1998 Pakistan initiated it,

2019 india did surgical strrikes, Pakistan retaliated

2025 India again did strkes

[formal pilot]

Sure, I'd enjoy that

[thorny steeple]

Yes. It's done. Thank you ❤️

India and Pakistan everycountry engages in terrorism, there is no point about that

[arctic ermine]

Kukumber you’re still here?

https://www.instagram.com/share/BASi7rNZyW?fhid=QkFTaTdyTlp5Vw watch this

[formal pilot]

Both countries won't get developed as long as they engage in pp measuring contest

[thorny steeple]

no body cares about terrorism, something new on table?

[arctic ermine]

I dont believe it

[thorny steeple]

Well, find a topic that can make us agree with each other

no body cares about it

Pakistan also states there are indian backed terrorist

its Pakistan matter not mine, why are you going from here to other point

[high raven]

Literally this

[thorny steeple]

from water you jumped to wars

[formal pilot]

Something about sustainable energy and global warming

[thorny steeple]

who cares about it

[high raven]

Are you two fans of "alternative" energy?

[formal pilot]

I genuinely believe that we can't stop global warming, we can only slow it down

[formal pilot]

Yes but I'm skeptical of solar energy

[formal pilot]

It's all about storage, it's really expensive to store solar energy

[high raven]

Yes we're way past that point

[arctic ermine]

Im crying is this real

[high raven]

The raw material extraction and processing needed to produce solar panels offsets any "green" energy they produce

[thorny steeple]

It's Instagram reels everything terrible is real there

[arctic ermine]

I told someone he was on his manperiod once and he banned me from his server

[jolly agate]

That’s where all the humour is

[high raven]

It's only nuclear. Wind, solar and hydro is just an extra, it's not sustainable to produce the necessary equipment nor is it feasible to store their surplus energy in large quantities. Petroleum is everywhere

[arctic ermine]

😔😔

[thorny steeple]

Definitely lmao

[formal pilot]

It was never in our hands, earth goes through catastrophical phases every now and then in millions of years

[formal pilot]

Deserved

[thorny steeple]

Lmao 🤣

[arctic ermine]

Guess what, he also banned me from his other servers I wasn’t even in. I found out because several years later he invited me to them and I couldn’t join

[high raven]

None of those are "green" though

[thorny steeple]

Do men have a period?

[thorny steeple]

Nope

[jolly agate]

This one is definitely in our hands more specifically the leaders of the country’s

[high raven]

Once they're produced and fully in place they're environmentally friendly and green, before that it's a long line of material extraction and habitat destruction

[arctic ermine]

Yes @grand prism can you confirm

[formal pilot]

Yes, it might be a bot glitch similar thing happened to my friend

[arctic ermine]

Nahh he just had to unban me and it worked

He forgot to unban me when we made up

[thorny steeple]

Solar energy is more flexible. It will be really efficient applying it in Africa and sunny areas

[thorny steeple]

A guy once said you have it daily

[thorny steeple]

Hmm 👀

[thorny steeple]

Interesting 🤔

[high raven]

Per THw of electricity nothing is even close to nuclear energy, it also requires lots of minerals and rare earth metals but the energy it produced makes it a far more viable alternative than solar panels, hydro or wind farm

[feral river]

we can solve every energy problem by guns

[high raven]

The issue is storing the surplus energy it produces

[thorny steeple]

Nope

[formal pilot]

We can only slow it down a few hundred years, sun is constantly spoon feeding energy to the earth, even if most of the heat bounced back to the space, we still get a ginormous amount of energy, and gradually it's heating the world

[feral river]

well yes

[thorny steeple]

Wdym by guns! They don't even produce energy

[feral river]

we can solve everything by guns

[thorny steeple]

It can be pricey but not impossible

[feral river]

use the gun to conquer the place that produce energy

[formal pilot]

I'd love to see you getting muted here, for the vibes

[thorny steeple]

Great idea it's better making than conquering it

[jolly agate]

Quite literally

[jolly agate]

Then let it end naturally

[formal pilot]

Exactly, and nuclear power plants aren't that portable rn