🧠｜serious-chat

[dense agate]

well look at the previous example that i've used, Egypt 2011, the government was overthrown without the protesters using guns

they shocked the capital city with mass protests, the whole country was on hold

and the president was forced to resign and fled the country

[feral river]

what's the reason they did not suppress it

[dense agate]

the regime was oppressive, it's not like they never tried, but you can only do so much when you're faced with that large amount of protesters

[feral river]

they got a battle with those protesters ?

[dense agate]

im sure there are dozens of casualties that were shot with live ammonization

[feral river]

I wonder how is those random strangers are capable to fight against professional military

they don't even have tanks

[dense agate]

and the regime has a history of oppression, they've jailed, tutored and silenced non stop

[feral river]

no I just curious why, how they have won ?

how is those strangers won against professional military ?

what the heck that's insane

using hands to fight with bomber ? tanks ?

[dense agate]

these weapons are not meant for against civilians, especially "your" civilians, if you make an enemy out of them you're just welcoming a civil war or a lasting hatred toward the regime, basically you're just lengthening your survival to some extent

[timid bane]

Ok guys

Calm down

[dense agate]

a good example for this is the Syrian revolution, where Al Assad went your rout with fighting back the protests at all cost

[feral river]

then that's their problem they cringe can't even maintain their social order

they don't have that determination to maintain the social order for people

ofc they gonna be overthrowned

[dense agate]

the determination to maintain social order for people ? you mean the ones that want to overthrow them and according to you should be shot ?

to save you i must shoot you

this like stockhold syndrome but with the state

[feral river]

well no but definitely not the people who walking on the street breaking laws and disturbing the social order.

they aren't the normal people but the people who created mess who violated the law

ofc they gonna be suppressed

[dense agate]

what if the law is to never complain about the government no matter what

[feral river]

law is established by the government

[dense agate]

any form of protest is already illegal based based on this

[feral river]

why they gonna complain the government 😭

[feral river]

yeah that's it

as I always said do not disturb the social order

you can propose your idea to improve the state, to improve the economy or provide advices to the authority

[dense agate]

not distrubing the social order isn't some divine law that we can't question

[feral river]

not to disturb the social order to show how powerful you are oh you are organized with bunch of people

[dense agate]

if you actually believe that this is possible in oppressive regimes, you're delusional

[feral river]

actually, no matter it's a oppressive regime or a democratic regimes, every regimes wants to last long must fit the interest of majority of people

we have seen a lot of cases that oppressive regime overthrown by civil war or by coup or succession

and we always have cases that so-called oppressive regime is actually benefiting the majority of people.

[dense agate]

yes, pubic opinion can only be ignored for so long, but in oppressive regimes it's suppressed, which creates frustration since positive change (whether social or economical) isn't happening and people get arrested and tutored for raising that point

[feral river]

if majority of people can't tolerant them to be exist, they will not be exist because their forces are incapable to fight against every people.

[dense agate]

i won't make a claim that we can't find an oppressive regime that did some good to their own country, but this isn't something we can generalize, we have more cases of it doing more harm than good

[feral river]

I don't see there's some case that people struggling to have a so-called positive change but threatening the state on the power and economy of distribution.

that's not how you can make positive change, it's just for your own interest.

[feral river]

I don't really see it even today we got only 50% less democratic regimes and in the past it's all authoritarian, we have great empires era, people were happy economy is prosperous

[dense agate]

one word, Venezuela

[feral river]

well....... they messed up that much actually but not totally messed up

at least their state could survive under this regime and struggle to expand their territory

[dense agate]

they did mess it up quite a bit. the protest were about making change in the regime and their economical policies

[feral river]

well you know what ? I think they should make a change on economical policies but not by people who disturbing the social order.

[dense agate]

they already have a lot of oil, they area they're disputing albeit has oil as well, it won't make much difference

[dense agate]

social order is very arbitrary, stop using it as a metric

[feral river]

it's not really as arbitrary as you think, disturbing social order, clear and straightforward

[dense agate]

me holding a sign in a "no signs allowed" street is disrupting social order, does that nullify the cause those protesters are fighting for ?

[dense agate]

it is arbitrary and highly subjective

[feral river]

well, are there any objective regimes ?

idk if you can find one

[dense agate]

why are you asking me this, not a claim i made

i'm just pointing out social order is very arbitrary

[feral river]

it's not arbitrary but subjective and everything is subjective, law is, rule is

disturbing social order is subjective

[dense agate]

if we use it as a metric, the whole world is full of illegitimate regimes, or regimes that exist within illegitimate states

[feral river]

well you can adopt it or not, that depends on the regime itself

regime control the guns they have the word to define what the fuck is disturbing social order

if they rampantly define a lot of irrelevant cases as disturbing social order they gonna be overthrown one day by majority of people

[dense agate]

well you have the imge of the regime as the kidnapper and the people are the kidnapped, that might be true for some regimes, but it is not always the case

[feral river]

well actually it's irrelevant, the truth is they control the force, they can force you to do anything they want

it's not you controlling the guns

[dense agate]

well yes that's the point of having a state and a government, rule, govern and regulate

that doesn't mean they are inherently against the citizens

but the contrary, they need to stay efficient and relevant to what matters to their own citizens

[feral river]

yeah that's my point if they do something harm the majority of citizens they gonna be overthrown why the hell no matter it's a democratic regime or authoritarian regime required to destroy their fundamental factor to rule ?

it doesn't make any sense there's the reason behind they could survive

if everything is like oh you are oppressive so everyone is gonna overthrow you that's bullshit

the truth is oppressive or democratic are appearances, but how do they work for majority of people is the point.

no matter you are democratic or authoritarian if majority of people are determined to overthrow you because of your low performance you will be overthrown

there's totally no any reason to harm its own people besides their leader is a foreign spy

[dense agate]

assuming i know what you meant here, then yes government would always like to have good relation with the public, but sometimes that's not always possible, when you have a regime that has been inefficient and mismanaged the country for years, and now the consequences are all falling in, it becomes a remedy for chaos

[feral river]

yeah that could have happen because you damaged the interest of some people

but it doesn't mean I must compromise for you guys that will eventually harm my legitmacy

[dense agate]

that's not the case and we know that, people do tolerate oppressive and authoritarian regimes (just look at the middle east), but until a point, and if there lives are continuously worsening (socially and economically) they have more incentive to demand change

[feral river]

yeah that's what I have mentioned, low performance

you can do the statistics work to try to proof authoritarian regimes are mostly low performance regimes it's up to you

[dense agate]

with or without, my point is regimes cannot easily or always at any given point improve their public perception with a press of a button

[dense agate]

yes, that's why demand of change isn't always about turning authoritarian regimes into democracies, but rather a more efficient ruling

[feral river]

there's 2 way to establish order, one way is support, the other way is intimidation

[dense agate]

i've never said that lel

[feral river]

I'm okay with it

[dense agate]

so you'd disagree with Xi jinping ruling indefinitely

[feral river]

he's already 70, I don't know he would resign in next term or not

but he's doing a good job for Chinese economy and state

I basically support him well besides the rule during the covid is pretty terrible

modernization, expand territory and influence, promoting economy development, suppress leftist movement and separatist movement

very nice actually

I would appreciate if he have more supportive policies to help Chinese invest abroad with less regulation

I always struggle to send my money abroad like you know I invest american stocks

[dense agate]

whether term limits are good or not shouldn't be based on specific cases, but rather genarally

[dense agate]

capital control my friend

[feral river]

no worries I usually go abroad and I'm in South Korea now it's just about fees

if I can just send money normally without p2p that would be nice

but unfortunately they are blocking the cash flow besides for study or work/business purposes

IM ANGRY IM GONNA INVEST THE AMERICAN MILITARY STOCKS @dense agate

[dense agate]

benefiting from destruction aren't we ?

[feral river]

actually I already invested 💀

and gained profit

paying taxes to IRS

Xi might angry with that 💀

[feral river]

THIS IS FREAKING AWESOME

IMAGINE THERE'S BOMB ON THE SKY IN SOMEWHERE THAT IS USED MY MONEY TO PRODUCE THAT BOMB

[dense agate]

dude stop edging lel

[feral river]

I'm high with it

💀

[dense agate]

sadist be like

dude, you got civ 6 ???

i would more than gladly drop an arsenal of nukes on you

[feral river]

nah I don't play that lol

that just spend a lot of time for mastering it

[dense agate]

it's easy and simple

[feral river]

I can get a phd for the time I have to spend on civ 6

[dense agate]

civ 6 scholar

you play as china, i'll convert it to Islam for you

[feral river]

btw aren't you in america ? this is pretty early for you I guess

[feral river]

😭 I will never visit any Islamic state

[dense agate]

i am awake at all times, either doing assignments for my major, or for my hobbies, Aware

[dense agate]

no problem, Islam comes to you

[feral river]

gotta invest more

that's my way to complain to this world

[dense agate]

i think civ6 is popular in China, i used to play a bit with a chinese guy

[feral river]

idk I never touched into this field but I see some players

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/civilization-6-china-qin-offer-gif-10951878426856775416

this is the chinese leader in the game, very thicc

[feral river]

what the

hard to evaluate

[dense agate]

Qin Shi Huang

founder of Qing dynasty

[feral river]

😭

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/cleopatra-queen-gif-18018797

[feral river]

he's from 210 BC

[dense agate]

there is a reason Egypt is fan's favorite

[feral river]

Qing Dynasty is 1000 more years ago

[dense agate]

there is also Wu Zetian and Yongle

[feral river]

that would be so much fun I guess

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/civilization-6-nuke-civ-6-gif-11452126007701647869

[feral river]

woah this is damn fun like in real life

https://youtube.com/shorts/z3YYM-x91uQ?si=ynGhYKHWCl7hCoBd

Lmao

[dense agate]

have you seen what your E-scholar asmon said?

[thorny steeple]

Not my scholar just watching out of boredom, what did he say?

[dense agate]

https://x.com/CapriSunnPapi/status/1845897719203737655

CapriSunnPapi (@CapriSunnPapi) on X

Hey @Asmongold what about my "culture" makes it okay to genocide my friends/family?

Twitter · Oct 14, 2024, 6:41 PM

[thorny steeple]

Ofc neither side is a saint

[dense agate]

"both sides are bad" aaaah argument

[thorny steeple]

Well y'know both sides aren't good y'know

[shy summit]

Good morning gays, gals, and non-binary pals

[thorny steeple]

Good morning binary pal

[thorny steeple]

Hello

Hello guys what is our topic ?

[shy summit]

Nothing for the moment

On a scale of white chocolate Hershey’s to skittles, how gay are ya’ll feeling today?

[thorny steeple]

Do you believe in free will? @azure jewel

[azure jewel]

yeah ofc

[thorny steeple]

so aren't fate and free will contradict each other?

[azure jewel]

nah, not really

[thorny steeple]

Can u explain to me please

[fierce fox]

funny to see beginners debating about such thing

[azure jewel]

I don't really understand how God works, but I believe that God has prepared unlimited scenarios.

and our free will makes us free to choose which scenario we want to take

[fierce fox]

how can you explain these if youre a beginner ?

[thorny steeple]

Doesnt matter

[thorny steeple]

If God knows in advance which paths we will take, isn't it absurd to create an infinite number of paths?

[azure jewel]

This causes destiny to exist, but does not violate our free will.

[rich thorn]

[azure jewel]

God knows, but does not determine which scenario we should take.

[rich thorn]

if you have a wife or gf how come you have free will.

[azure jewel]

LOL HAHAHA

[thorny steeple]

But if he wants, he has the potential to fix the future of a bad person, right?

[grim cove]

Heheheha

[azure jewel]

that's right, that's why God gave humans a way to "repent"

[fierce fox]

but if he does, where's the test ?

[azure jewel]

but if God forces someone to be fixed, it violates His promise to give free will.

[thorny steeple]

Why would God create a human being knowing that he would burn in eternal hell?

If he wanted, he could change the fate of the person who would burn in eternal hell in advance.

[fierce fox]

why a teacher give you an exam if he knows you'll fail ?

[azure jewel]

hahaha, interesting question

[thorny steeple]

What is the sin of the person who will burn if God has chosen his fate that way?

[azure jewel]

already answered with an analogy haha

[fierce fox]

you discombobulate

[thorny steeple]

Lemonius

[thorny steeple]

Yourself

[thorny steeple]

This example has already been debunked, haven't you heard?

[fierce fox]

you rejecting your falsehood to God which is insane, you're the one completely conscious who chooses to sin

[fierce fox]

told you id say it lol

[thorny steeple]

Hell yeah lol

[fierce fox]

debunk it for me, me go poopoo

[rich thorn]

You flatter me

[thorny steeple]

Why did God create the devil?

[azure jewel]

This is how, in the beginning God created humans without sin

but humans themselves choose to violate God's commandments or you could say sin

and God said that the wages of sin is death, and this cannot be changed.

However, because God loves us so much, he is willing to forgive our sins if we repent.

It is our free will that ultimately chooses whether to remain sinful or to repent.

[thorny steeple]

Yep

[shy summit]

God placed the temptation before them knowing that if he did so they would do it

[thorny steeple]

No event can happen independently of God. God wanted to test people, so he created the devil, knowing that he would oppose him.

[azure jewel]

nah, God did not create him, the angel himself made himself the devil, he fought God

[thorny steeple]

He created it beforehand

He created it even though he knew it would be bad.

[azure jewel]

not always, we will not be able to lift heavier weights if we do not practice weight lifting

The initial purpose of temptation is to strengthen our faith, but many people prefer to give up.

[shy summit]

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. An omni-being is responsible for all things in a paradigm be default.

[thorny steeple]

If God created Satan as a bad person to test people, what is Satan's fault here? It must be God's will.

[grim cove]

Because its that human who chose to be a bad person, and he do try to change our fate, but we dont notice.

[azure jewel]

yeah

[azure jewel]

God knows what is good, but he loves his creation so much, that's why he keeps creating it

[thorny steeple]

So does God still love the devil?

[feral river]

yeah god definitely know what is good, the god of Kim Jong Un is continuing to bring prosperity to the Korean people 🇰🇵

[thorny steeple]

If God wanted to create Satan as an evil angel for a purpose, I don't understand what Satan's fault is here.

[feral river]

우리는 당신밖에 모른다!

we will follow you(Kim Jong Un) only !

[azure jewel]

actually, yes
but no for the sin

This is what differentiates humans from demons
humans are given the right to repent

[azure jewel]

God never made Satan an evil angel, but the angel himself wanted to be like God.

God does not want his creation to love him because "He forces it"
it is not sincere, therefore God gives free will

[thorny steeple]

God forced him to do such a thing, otherwise the test of the people would not have started.

[cerulean sleet]

Yo Minecraft china is still discussing religion after our last discussion crazyy

[clear meadow]

alr commi

[azure jewel]

Well, He didn't force the angel

[feral river]

I'm always here lmao

[thorny steeple]

Of course he did

[cerulean sleet]

leave religion bro💀

[feral river]

why don't you leave religion lmao

[thorny steeple]

God had to start evil somehow, and he used the devil to do it.

[azure jewel]

yes, it comes back to your beliefs
it is your right

[cerulean sleet]

cuz I don't kill people in uighur 😇

solely because of their religion

[azure jewel]

God did not create evil, go away from God who created evil

[feral river]

let me start evil first, it's about the rights!

how dare you can say god could do that we can't do ?

it's devine of rights!

[azure jewel]

actually, I also do not agree with killing on the basis of religion

[feral river]

false accusation confirmed✅

[clear meadow]

God gives u the free will and moral responsibility.. free will grants u the ability to make ur own decisions grow, learn, and potentially overcome ur issues... God’s foreknowledge does not negate the individual's freedom to resist or make other choices and in scenarios like this people who overcome it in islam receive more deeds

[azure jewel]

those who kill because of religion, actually only kill for themselves

[thorny steeple]

İt s not fair

[feral river]

some of them violated the law of the PRC, and they will be punished under the rule of law

[thorny steeple]

İ dont wanna talk anymore you didnt understand me clearly.

[feral river]

and they have been punished for disturbing social order mostly

[cerulean sleet]

Xi jinpig propaganda confirmed 😇

[feral river]

very good

[clear meadow]

He's a top tier communist what did u expect

[azure jewel]

Actually, if you try to understand and not answer just to argue, you will really understand.

[feral river]

im anti-communist lmao

[cerulean sleet]

reporting you

how could u?

[feral river]

[azure jewel]

woa woa woa

[feral river]

do your paperwork

[azure jewel]

I don't get involved when it comes to ideology

[feral river]

and report me

[cerulean sleet]

wdym 💀

[shy summit]

That’s an ideology itself

[azure jewel]

what?

[clear meadow]

"From the people's republic of China" "China mainland" plus all the quotes and bs from Stalin

doesn't really help ur case

[feral river]

that's how you are talking some bullshit over me because I added a suffix of China mainland and I literally from China

[feral river]

it doesn't really help ur case to talk bullshit over me dude

🤣

[cerulean sleet]

i want to ask you genuinely @feral river

how did u access discord

[clear meadow]

U were basically trying to justify murder dawg

[shy summit]

Don’t mind my red menace friend here.

[feral river]

I access discord from the white house

[cerulean sleet]

I thought China blocked most western sites

[shy summit]

Please let’s not justify violence

[feral river]

that's what you have said not me lmao

I didn't really justify any murder case

[cerulean sleet]

Uighur?

[clear meadow]

Crazy

[cerulean sleet]

lol

dw ik your isp is spying on ur chats

[feral river]

glad to know that

[cerulean sleet]

it's ok china didn't do anything wrong based on religion 😇

[clear meadow]

"Why does the pope have less army than Stalin"

[feral river]

how many troops he have ?

🤣

answer the question

1 ?

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-burning-hell-pain-gif-17379863

[feral river]

1 troop with 1 people ? 🤣

[cerulean sleet]

bro acting smart while he didn't answer why is china killing people in tibet and uighur

[balmy matrix]

"Why does the pope have less army than Stalin"

[feral river]

you luckily repeated his bullshit but it doesn't mean I have said that

[clear meadow]

yeah this guy ong

[balmy matrix]

i just copied

no worries bbg

[feral river]

yeah you do, I said you luckily repeated his bullshit no problem

[cerulean sleet]

*yo answer the question minecraft china

[clear meadow]

Comparing the pope to Stalin in terms of military

[cerulean sleet]

[feral river]

false accusation

done

[cerulean sleet]

said who

China?

[clear meadow]

"scientific progression is based on military!1"

[cerulean sleet]

That is like the british denying they occupied most of the world

crazy lol

[feral river]

you can try to answer why is Islam instigated the most terrorist organization in the world 🤣

at least this one is truth

[cerulean sleet]

and what do u call Killing people in uighur and tibet

not terrorism?

[balmy matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/despite-my-rage-cat-i-mean-cats-suck-but-he-driving-sheeesh-gif-21499667

[cerulean sleet]

why does Christianity have kkk 😱

[feral river]

why would I answer something doesn't exist 🤣

it's like asking me why god is freaked out

[cerulean sleet]

Bro's source: chinese media

[feral river]

your source is even bad, western media LMAO

what the heck bro

[cerulean sleet]

lol

when a criminal commits a crime

he ain't telling people that

[feral river]

sigh

[balmy matrix]

sigh

[cerulean sleet]

sigh in chinese

[balmy matrix]

eats cat in chinese

[cerulean sleet]

Bro when china admits their killing:
Uighur is bunch of terrorists already!

ew muslim terrorists very bad

[feral river]

not enough we also eat dogs

[dapper laurel]

Well, they're not entirely wrong in the end

[cerulean sleet]

yum

[cerulean sleet]

sure

[feral river]

what else can be that terrible already ?

[thorny steeple]

Yep

[feral river]

0 terrorists in China after the re-education camps

[fierce fox]

to test our free will duuh, the devil is doomed till the day of judgment and his main purpose is to misguide as many people as he can

[cerulean sleet]

hahah why should i answer something that doesn't exist haha 😱🤣

[hidden marten]

What y’all are talking about?

[shy summit]

Mine…

[cerulean sleet]

false accusations!! 😀

[shy summit]

@feral river please, we talked about this.

[feral river]

not this again this guy is clearly stir up the fire

[clear meadow]

??

[shy summit]

I understand. But if we cannot engage in good faith @cerulean sleet @feral river then leave it

[cerulean sleet]

ok

np

[feral river]

I would appreciate you are here

[dapper laurel]

I'm saying that in the end they are not entirely wrong to fight terrorism

Europe has the same problem, but we are too liberal a continent to take these extreme measures

[feral river]

you can take an example of Poland they just shot the muslim person who try to cross the border line

well btw I don't think they should distinguish people by faith but that works

[dapper laurel]

We are deporting immigrants to Albania for now

[feral river]

western Italy!

[dapper laurel]

Eastern*

[feral river]

oh yeah

[clear meadow]

Core strategies of the campaign include identity-based persecution, mass detention, surveillance, enforced sterilizations, forced labor, and forced assimilations is "fighting terrorism"

[dapper laurel]

Western italy is France

[feral river]

Southern Italy is Libya

btw you guys being ass kicked marching into france

[dapper laurel]

I see nothing wrong with assimilation

[clear meadow]

oh my god

[feral river]

idk how you guys could lose a war against the state already surrendered to germans

[cerulean sleet]

false accusations 💀

[clear meadow]

yall are the same dudes complaining how "god is evil"

[dapper laurel]

If you are a foreigner and you are hosted by a country where you are a minority you must be assimilated, there is little to discuss about this

[dense agate]

it's not about who's right or wrong -those terms can be erratic, but about what's actually happening.

[cunning lagoon]

Hello everybody!, I hope you are doing well.
I am looking for a long term assistant who can rent me Upwork Account.
I can pay you 10% of my earning, at least $100, per month.

[dense agate]

Twix with a tutu

[thorny steeple]

It's a changing situation

[dense agate]

these are spineless statements man

[thorny steeple]

True,

Then do you support Palestine or Israel

[feral river]

I don't support a loser

a 0-4 non-existing loser

my yasuo have better performance than it

[thorny steeple]

@dense agate see such a divide topic

[dense agate]

i don't see it as choosing sides

[dense agate]

this is minecraft, you can almost always guess who he is going to support

[clear meadow]

So do i have the right to assimilate minorities in my country even tho they lived here for as long as we did?

[thorny steeple]

Then how do you see it?

[thorny steeple]

True that's 652 way

[feral river]

I consider that was a privilege I don't think we all have that

like my iPhone 15

[dapper laurel]

Yes you can do it, it's almost your duty

[feral river]

oh wait iPhone 16 comes out and I don't have it 😭

[dense agate]

i'm just into understanding the reality on the ground, and the human impact on both sides

[clear meadow]

😭

we have a lot of naz1s in this server no cap

[dapper laurel]

Why am I a Nazi?

[thorny steeple]

Realpolitik eh

[dapper laurel]

Do you even know what Nazi ideology says? Do you know that it is based on race and that for them assimilation doesn't mean shit?

[thorny steeple]

Great question I wanna know the answer

[dense agate]

more broader, Realism

[clear meadow]

promoting forced assimilation, displacing and racism is basically nazism dawg

[dapper laurel]

I'm definitely not, but I want to see what the lil bro says

[thorny steeple]

Interesting tell me about it

[dapper laurel]

Nazism has racial bases, I do not profess these ideals, you can have any skin color, I don't give a shit, and if you respect, assimilate to my culture and ideals you are also welcome to my country

[thorny steeple]

Okey

[dapper laurel]

And you can't lecture me if Christians are persecuted in Muslim countries cuz they're a minority

[clear meadow]

I asked whether or not its correct to force other minorities to change their culture and u responded with yes and its duty

i must go terrorize other people and force them to change their culture and their ways

[dense agate]

umm, i can just give a brief statement about it.
Realism is a theory in international relations where the state is seen as a rational entity that pursues its interests in an anarchic world, regardless of ideology or moral considerations

[clear meadow]

Christians have as much rights as we do

[thorny steeple]

Sure fire away

[thorny steeple]

Seems interesting like realpolitik

[clear meadow]

Holidays, religious practices and churches

[dapper laurel]

There are many ways to assimilate people, with restrictive laws and policies, you don't have to terrorize anyone

[dapper laurel]

Even in Afghanistan?

Or Iran?

[dense agate]

yes, Realpolitik can somewhat be considered an application of Realism

[clear meadow]

Afghanistan and iran are both extreme countries with extreme ideologies barley even related to islam and they were both at some point or another backed up by the US

[thorny steeple]

Okey

[clear meadow]

plus 2 bad examples doesnt make all of the muslim world bad

take the UAE for example

Egypt, Syria and iraq

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/кот-умер-кота-убили-gif-2895333260421366841

[dense agate]

seeing assimilating minorities as mandatory is a nationalistic view, doesn't exactly have to be fascist

[clear meadow]

Thats defining oppression

[clear meadow]

He claimed the forced assimilation of Uyghurs is justified and every country should do the same to their minorities

[feral river]

we didn't do that...

[dapper laurel]

Ok, but there is no country in Western Europe that bans Muslims from having rights, we literally build mosques there with the taxes we pay

Non-assimilation leads to the death of a country

Imagine your country being conquered by another culture and changed radically, would you like that?

[feral river]

all we have done is arrest terrorists and group of terrorist supporters, and sending people into this region

we didn't even do something like what you have said forced assimilation

[dense agate]

not exactly, but it would mean racial/ethnical/religious tensions are present

[dense agate]

arrests "terrorists", they can arrest anyone, there is no legal process

[dapper laurel]

Yes, but for me racial tensions wouldn't exist if everyone professed the same values and the same culture

[clear meadow]

You are correct and im also against the oppression of other religions but u have to understand that the taliban was a result of both russias and the US's invasion

the islamic iranian regime was also supported by the UK

[dapper laurel]

It is not a way to justify their existence, a government is supported by the people, otherwise there would be a civil war there. Instead no, the majority decides to oppress a minority, that's it

[feral river]

why didn't they arrest me then ?

[dense agate]

are the Uyghurs camps empty ?

[clear meadow]

cuz u are one of them

[feral river]

not really my friend works in the camps

those are full even crowd

[clear meadow]

No one in afghanistan and iran support the government

[feral river]

and he earn up to 3000 USD with social benefit a month

that's huge in China in a state-owned enterprises

[prisma cipher]

[clear meadow]

Thats what happens when u fund a militia/invade a country and leave it to shambles

[dense agate]

there you go, you answered yourself

[feral river]

well I mean they have legal process to prosecute them

[clear meadow]

Afghanistan and iran were not like this before the soviet war and the us funding

[feral river]

if I do remember it requires you to get a special visa that you can visit those region

trails are not opened to the western journalists

[dense agate]

many were arrested without it

[deep leaf]

Then which journalist ?

[feral river]

but we can still access them

[dense agate]

not fully, i've seen some go there, probably under covered, but the place is secured to the max. So many checkpoints

[feral river]

yeah I ever been to Xinjiang and Tibet yes

[dense agate]

how's Tibet ?

[deep leaf]

Captured

[feral river]

not bad last time I ever been to Tibet is 2018

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/кот-умер-кота-убили-gif-2895333260421366841

[weary belfry]

[feral river]

https://www.xinjiangtravel.org/permit-and-visa.html

basically you need to obtain a special visa distinguished with the normal visa to China

to get you into Tibet and Xinjiang

for Chinese citizens and permanent residents it's visa free

[deep leaf]

Ok cool bro.

[deep leaf]

Do u think Chinese economic growth is not as fast as it used to be

[thorny steeple]

is it visa free for the Dalai Lama

[thorny steeple]

Bro it sucks now

someone told me he didn't get a job

[feral river]

interesting to say, Xinjiang is one of the listed as sensitive region to apply for an american visa

which indicates it will be less possibility for Xinjiang residents to apply for an american visa

[hollow spear]

Serious chat without seriousness

[feral river]

well we already achieved significant economic growth almost a decade and it was still going up

[thorny steeple]

Go and mock religion
People will eat your flesh

[thorny steeple]

Which province are you from

[feral river]

capital of the Shandong province, Jinan city

[deep leaf]

Yes but I think every country growth comes to slwodwon especially if u don't have good relations

[hollow spear]

Thx, for the suggestion mate

[deep leaf]

Coming there bro. Show me good places

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daming_Lake

[thorny steeple]

that's something unheard
Btw how are you using discord

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_City_Square

[thorny steeple]

Pro chinese ☠️

[feral river]

as a Jinan resident, I can't even list that much interest spots because I live there

[thorny steeple]

mock Muslims and you will get your head for dinner
But other religions, not a problem

[feral river]

but we are the spring of the city, we have the most spring in the world

that's why we only have 3 lines of metro

[deep leaf]

Looks good

[deep leaf]

Do u eat there insects n animals much there?

[feral river]

well my main dish was meat

[hollow spear]

[feral river]

in China I use VPN and now I'm in South Korea

[deep leaf]

As a spy?

[feral river]

how

I wouldn't talk shit over here as a spy

[thorny steeple]

damn
I will visit HKU soon

[thorny steeple]

bro is from the moon

He wants spies

[clear meadow]

educated people debate respectfully

[thorny steeple]

And most people in discord are uneducated

[feral river]

I don't think you have to be act like an educated while talking with an uneducated.

[shy summit]

This isn’t always true.

It should be the norm, it is not.

[feral river]

most people just have no sense on the breaking point of a conversation that they don't how to lead the conversation from yalling talking bullshit to healthy mutual-beneficial conversation.

[thorny steeple]

why are you always serious

[feral river]

because I want to ? I can be serious or non-serious at any time

[shy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-why-so-serious-serious-gif-11972349

[thorny steeple]

in discord
Healthy wtf

[feral river]

I talk jokes I talk serious stuff I also talk shits

[thorny steeple]

[feral river]

I perfectly know how to lead the conversation

[thorny steeple]

🦉

[feral river]

that's why some people always getting into trouble when they debate with me

some little psychology 🤣

[thorny steeple]

🙏

[shy summit]

Mine, you’re usually the one on the hook

[feral river]

I see anyways

[dapper laurel]

Be non-serious now!

[feral river]

AH NO FREAK

I'm not serious now 😭

[thorny steeple]

😭😭I don't understand why people like to share their negativity in discord
I am at the wrong place ☠️

[feral river]

I'm gonna bomb the shit of the earth

this life screwed up

[dapper laurel]

What do you think about freaky president joe biden?

[clear meadow]

Yeah it should be

[thorny steeple]

Don't call him a freak
He deserves respect
Call him Uncle Joe

sleeping joe

[feral river]

he's the true supreme leader everyone should bow on him

[deep leaf]

Better than Trump?

[feral river]

especially when he dropped out of the stairs

[dapper laurel]

So true, so freak

[feral river]

3 times

[shy summit]

Sadly, religious fundamentalism has fallen so far as to rely on violence and jeering to try and maintain political power. Look at Republicans, look at the Middle Eastern regimes

[thorny steeple]

😭😭bro y'all aren't American still ........
Trump is better
Taxes are taking my pants 👖

[dapper laurel]

What about daddy joe?

[thorny steeple]

Kamala is like mommy joe 😭😭

[feral river]

well I support Trump lol

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/selfie-joe-biden-jill-biden-picture-say-cheese-gif-18721730

[thorny steeple]

😭😭 people don't understand that religion is for humans
Humans aren't for religion

[feral river]

I'm personally anti-communist and socialist ofc I don't support a president tolerant the actions of disturbing social order and lead the leftist dreamers to achieve their piece of shit on raising taxes on everyone

Make America Great Again 🇺🇸 Trump 2024

[thorny steeple]

How old are you

[feral river]

22 lol

[shy summit]

Please do not vote for a confirmed rapist, felon, and indicted candidate.

[thorny steeple]

And what's your major

[clear meadow]

Unfortunately

[thorny steeple]

but there's no better option

[feral river]

well I could do a lot of jobs my major was network security lol

[thorny steeple]

At least the economy survives with him

[feral river]

not being sentenced yet

[thorny steeple]

Network or cyber???

[feral river]

well cyber security yeah

[shy summit]

He’s been convicted on two of those things

[clear meadow]

Corruption, wars and foreign Intervention have dragged the middle east into chaos

[shy summit]

Sentencing doesn’t mean anything convicted means the jury found him guilty. He did it.

[thorny steeple]

Interesting

[feral river]

it's possible for him to get a presidential exemption

if he was elected as president

[shy summit]

No they already confirmed that

[thorny steeple]

UAE is the GOAT 🐐

[shy summit]

He’ll be serving BEFORE his next term if he is in prison longer than january 20

[dapper laurel]

No, freaky biden is

[clear meadow]

i prefer Oman

[thorny steeple]

Shit place 🤮🤮🤮🤢

[feral river]

you can't deny they have the right to vote for the president they wanted because he committed some violations

[thorny steeple]

Oman has no freedom
At least the UAE has some

[feral river]

actually they can do that.

[shy summit]

They have the right but he cant serve while in prison he’ll have to give turnover to his vp

[clear meadow]

Its pretty chill... they stick to their architectural heritage and culture

[thorny steeple]

[clear meadow]

plus the natural beauty is quite nice

[feral river]

what else terrible president they could have that they rather choose a president do have violations ?

[dapper laurel]

The Arab Emirates are an absolute monarchy, they have a parliament, but it is irrelevant, they are not a perfect democracy

[feral river]

idk we will see

[dapper laurel]

But they are less freaky than Oman

[thorny steeple]

🤮🤮🤮 and then shout for freedom at other countries
Oman was and is shit

[feral river]

who knows what he's up to, probably overturn the congress ?

[dapper laurel]

💀

[thorny steeple]

they have a better system
UAE is the goat of the middle east

[shy summit]

He would immediately be ousted by constitutional law

[clear meadow]

idk what u are talking about its one if not the safest country in the middle east

its one of the safest countries to travel

[thorny steeple]

🤮🤮🤮 shit
UAE>>>>>>>>>Middle East

[dapper laurel]

I'm the goat of the middle east

[thorny steeple]

omg

[clear meadow]

are u from the UAE??

[feral river]

they are not even developed lol not a chance to compare with Israel

[dapper laurel]

Yes, yes, you're talking with the goat

[clear meadow]

💀

[thorny steeple]

wtf ain't my profile clear for you

[feral river]

woah rich guy from Dubai I guess

[thorny steeple]

UAE is the bestttttt

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-bill-dauterive-merica-america-flag-gif-11317646004176629108

[thorny steeple]

I mean I am from the USA

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/america-truck-patriot-murica-gif-26712418

[feral river]

you should commit you have gap with the most prosperous state in the middle east

[dapper laurel]

Top freedom exporter

[clear meadow]

its actually more developed and safe than israel

[thorny steeple]

don't worry I am going to fill this gap soon

[clear meadow]

wth is in ur pfp

an owl?

[dapper laurel]

No, it's him

[thorny steeple]

no it's a monkey

[feral river]

yeah I guess because of some terrorists are fighting against Israel

they will settle them soon

[thorny steeple]

😭😭😭

[deep leaf]

But Israel is with USA and USA is against china. So u should be with hamas 😶

[thorny steeple]

you summoned the whole middle east against you

[thorny steeple]

bro graduated from Hamas

[clear meadow]

who is the terroist?

tbh i didnt know what to expect from someone trying to justify the oppression of the Uyghurs

[dapper laurel]

So, they bombed my country's military bases in Lebanon, so I hope to go to war against Israel and destroy it

[deep leaf]

Me?

[clear meadow]

not to mention u are heavily influenced by communism

[thorny steeple]

🤮🤮....

[dapper laurel]

🤮🤮🤮

[deep leaf]

[clear meadow]

but how was I supposed to know your country based on your pfp

[thorny steeple]

people don't have anything else in support
How cheap can a person be to justify the acts of Hamas as honest and show the acts of Israel as hell
Even this history is not complete
This shows the typical mindset of people brainwashed

I do believe that killing of children in gaza is a terror situation but it's also a terror situation for Israel

Iran govt is the biggest terrorist
Hamas and other proxies are gays which took birth from Irani regime

[feral river]

first, we both have cooperation with the US and Israel while they don't have any formal relationship with Hamas, second, why would I give a shit what Chinese government should have done

I'm not a government agency

[dapper laurel]

It's in his profile

[deep leaf]

Yea I understand that

[feral river]

don't care they can't even handle this tiny nation how they gonna deal with americans and us

and I invested both american and israeli defense industries so keep it up they generate huge profit

[thorny steeple]

People in the Middle East are always like:
Israeli death: love to Iran
Hamas death: God have mercy
They always have one thing in common. The hate for other people. Never will they understand that peace is from both sides.
Hamas is a culprit and so are the people who were hiding their bombs beneath their gardens.

[clear meadow]

Hamas is resisting the israeli oppression... israel massacred the Palestinian people more than 7 times what did u except them to do? not fight back? not resist for better standards of living? how can i be brainwashed if i seek justice

israel is already illegally occupying the west bank

and invaded a sovereign state multiple times

Lebanon

[thorny steeple]

Who Started first. And with the billions of dollars of funds given to gaza from the USA and other rich countries, gaza would have been mini Dubai
Why don't you ask your Hamas leaders in Oman who love to play gold games in the name of gaza

[clear meadow]

Isreal started it first

and to ur info

[thorny steeple]

I can show you that the Soviet was shit. Why don't you say the same
For ur info

Therefore Ukraine is right too

[clear meadow]

Gaza was nice until israel decided to bomb it

[clear meadow]

what does the ussr have anything to do with this?

[thorny steeple]

Taking out history and that too half is an act you people love to do the most

[clear meadow]

Taking out which history?

thats what really happened pal

[thorny steeple]

Your point of history

[thorny steeple]

It's half pal
The history is more complex

[clear meadow]

u are basically trying to deny the nakbaa ever happening to justify the existence of an apartheid state built on colonialism

[thorny steeple]

People of gaza and Israel could have peace but no.....

[clear meadow]

Yes there is so much to say about israel

[clear meadow]

how when isreal is declining every peace proposal?

idk about u

[feral river]

you should aware that there's only one sovereign state in this entire region which is State of Isreal

[clear meadow]

but i wouldnt let someone steal my house without fighting back

[feral river]

there's no such thing called Palestinian sovereign

[clear meadow]

i was talking about Lebanon genius

i literally said it below that msg

[clear meadow]

plus there isnt cuz israel colonialized it

[clear meadow]

i wont just do nothing when my people are being oppressed

u would know if u were in their position

[feral river]

wym by they colonize it how they gonna colonize their own land lmao

can you colonize yourself ?

no that's just territorial expansion

they did a good job kick their enemy's ass take their land and build their homes make their state prosperous

what else they could have done besides this ?

[thorny steeple]

Peace proposal wtf
To start it all again

The TERRORIST GAYS HAMAS need time to prepare that's all
They have conditions which are shit anyways

[clear meadow]

the Israelites are NOT the same as modern day isrealis. Israelis are 70% Europeans pal they barley share any similar DNA. 2nd Palestinians are native to Palestine because they're Canaanites.. the only difference between jews and Palestinians is that Palestinians are pure actual descendants from the Canaanites while isrealis are assimilated Europeans... 3rd "This is my nation because my people used to live here 2k years ago" if that was the case then the Americas should belong to the natives

[feral river]

proposing peace while building tunnels and send missiles against their enemy

[clear meadow]

and yes it is colonizing

[thorny steeple]

The only thing common between almost every muslim country
No religious freedom
Extremism against Israel
And
Love for terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah

[feral river]

it's irrelevant that you actually site the theory of who lived this land in the history which is historical claims, is illegitmate to proof to be a owner of this land.

[thorny steeple]

You were sure educated from a well known university with a degree in stupidity

Preferably from the hands of Al khameni

[feral river]

I don't know what are the 1st and 2nd of yours has anything to do with the current situation or the 3rd theory you posted here

it's literally contradicting because you rejected your claims by your theory ?

[clear meadow]

Hamas doesnt need time to prepare.. isreal does their economy plummeted, civil unrest, international sanctions and they havent even completed their 2 goals of releasing the hostages (because they're refusing the peace deals) and destroying hamas (u cant destroy an idea)

[feral river]

woah you gonna say they can't destroy terrorism ?

I don't think so

[clear meadow]

Werent u advocating on debating respectfully? u arent so respectful afterall. Instead of responding to my claims u decide to insult me

[thorny steeple]

Because peace costs blood
And war costs shit
Hamas's 800$ poop takes 50k $ to intercept
And that's why the govt is taking the whole region down at once

[clear meadow]

not terrorism but ressisting

[feral river]

it is terrorism against Israeli state

you are resisting nothing but a bunch of shit with a non-existing state in the world

just using that as the pretext to start the war that hurt your own people

[thorny steeple]

Well I don't think I have said something but anyways I am down with this shit
I have better things to do rather than advocating for the crimes of Hamas

[feral river]

it's like you know israeli is gonna bomb the shit out of this place that many of your people will die but you still go to war against them

[clear meadow]

u just proved my point and admitted isreal is committing genocide

[feral river]

it's totally injudicious and irresponsible

the truth is the Hamas themselves don't really care about the Palestinian but harness to the Palestinian ideology to collect resources for expansion

[clear meadow]

its called resisting the oppressor but u wouldnt know what that means since u are on of the oppressors

[clear meadow]

english please

[feral river]

I definitely wouldn't know what does that means to a terrorism sympathizer

[thorny steeple]

Well your theory is washed with hate
Israel is doing everything to save its citizens
Everyone saw the hate arab countries have for Jews
Literally people were dancing because Hamas made people hostages
This mindset can only be with terrorists

[feral river]

It's irrelevant that you actually cite the theory of who lived on this land in history which is historical claims, is illegitimate to prove to be the owner of this land.

[thorny steeple]

You can't do anything 😔
Kill and throw Jews in water: Justified
200+ missiles on Israel : justified

[feral river]

well they just bomb the shit out of this place, very simple

[clear meadow]

1st isreal doesnt give a crap about their people.. if they did they would have accepted the peace proposals and listened to their people
2nd Arabs hate Zionism specifically because they colonized Palestinians who are our brothers and oppressed them for years

[feral river]

and it was basically a win-win that they were cleared their main enemies secured their nation and people meanwhile I generated profit from them

[clear meadow]

u just recited the same msg

[feral river]

yeah because this is english as you requested

[rigid flicker]

hello

[clear meadow]

ur english is so inconsistent, its almost like u are using google translate or some shi

[rigid flicker]

what mean word :"inconsistent"?

[clear meadow]

and from what i understand

[feral river]

or it's on demand to alongside with the Chinese so you would strike the point because you are unable to comprehend advance words which I mentioned very few ?

[clear meadow]

u said "u cant prove who owned the land"

[rigid flicker]

??

[rigid flicker]

what problem?

[rigid flicker]

guy

s

*guys

[feral river]

I don't consider you have that capabilities to comprehend the Chinese character which will enlighten you up which is unable to do in english

[clear meadow]

u advocate for force assimilation of the ughyars, ur role model is stalin and the ussr AND u are promoting genocide now against gaza?

[clear meadow]

i actually do bud my language is the 2nd hardest right behind urs

and i'd argue that arabic is harder

[thorny steeple]

Wtf
43k people have evacuated Israel and now if this war with proxies is not stopped Israel will eventually be vacant cause no one wants their children to survive in a place with hate.
The mother's who taught their children to fight with Israel were equally responsible. They have shown their children the path to destruction and then justify their acts. Hate has only work to do: DESTRUCTION

Iran's MF Khameni is the biggest reason for what's happening in GAZA
Israel doesn't have a gold mine to produce 50k $ for the poop Hamas throws on their side
One day Israel had to do it

The most danger chat fr

[thorny steeple]

Welcome to the east side

[rigid flicker]

Free Palestine

[feral river]

ngl what you have done is nothing besides falsely accusing people.

[thorny steeple]

No I'm with no one side . I want peace only

[thorny steeple]

🤮 FREE PALESTINE FROM HATE AND IRAN

[manic juniper]

Most Israelis are Mizrahis, not Ashkenazis

[thorny steeple]

East side is a song 🙄

[rigid flicker]

🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[thorny steeple]

Chat war

Even in chat there's no peace

[feral river]

🇮🇱 🇮🇱 🇮🇱

play the flag game ?

[thorny steeple]

No no

[thorny steeple]

But u are Chinese

[feral river]

I'm

[thorny steeple]

Right, how u are supporting Israel

[clear meadow]

1st more than 1m got displaced in 1948 because of israel so if u think 43k is worse than 1m then idk what to tell u.. plus these numbers are highly exaggerated and false since they literally live under bankers under their houses or in their cities, and isreal was the one to assassinate multiple hazbullah leaders and blow pagers resulting in injuries and deaths of thousands and now they're launching a ground invasion of Lebanon
2nd the path of resisting a colonizer and not DESTRUCTION.. isreal is the one bombing civilians

[thorny steeple]

Go and have life
These people won't Stop till death

I mean the first enemy to Chinese ppl are Americans

And america is mother of Israel rn

[feral river]

because we have cooperation with Israel, Israeli doing the correct thing for their nation, and they are doing a good job

[feral river]

well our biggest partner on earth is not Russia, is not Iran or North Korea

our biggest partner on earth is the United States of America

[thorny steeple]

But do u like usa more than Russia

[thorny steeple]

Lol

[feral river]

well... hard to say lol

it's a complex relationship we preserve our national interest in this so we won't incline to any side

[clear meadow]

thats u not me, i have simply stated facts

[thorny steeple]

Why do u think Israel is right about invading Gaza then Lebanon

After that Jordon then Syria then Iraq and last one Egypt I know that

[thorny steeple]

Bro shut
I am fed up
Death to the world of hate
Go and bonk khameni who is the retarded ass responsible for gaza

[feral river]

first, it's not an invasion there's only one sovereign state in this region which is Israel, second the proxy of Iran which is a terrorist organization threatening the Israeli security were stationed in Lebanon and they fight against Israel during the war

[clear meadow]

so respectful

[feral river]

they were already involved why you think Israeli can't take any actions against them

[thorny steeple]

Not a reason to explode 10 thousands phones for Lebanon citizens

[feral river]

mostly are hezbollah operators

[clear meadow]

u are not fed up

[thorny steeple]

The biggest villain of the middle east is al.khameni

[clear meadow]

u just cant handle fax yo

[feral river]

there's several mistakes that they detonated more than they expected

[clear meadow]

yeah sure bud 💀

[feral river]

but operation succeed

[clear meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dampsausage772-emporershmingleblorp-idgafwar-falling-gif-700044825151028376

[thorny steeple]

What about killing citizens in hospitals like in rafah beside Gaza and Egypt

Burning them everyday

[thorny steeple]

I have life, my brother
I am not a person whose family has taught them to fight for religion and shit matter
I have work to do

[feral river]

killing citizens ? not terrorist supporters ?

[clear meadow]

so u wouldnt fight for ur country and ur home, culture and others??

cya next time ig

[manic juniper]

31% isn't "nearly half", the other near half (45%) are Mizrahis

https://people.socsci.tau.ac.il/mu/noah/files/2018/07/Ethnic-origin-and-identity-in-Israel-JEMS-2018.pdf

[pine star]

In my view, I wouldn't fight for any politicians nor ideology. I'd fight, if my family is in risk, because to me, it has the most value out of everything.

[shy summit]

Israel has deliberately killed thousands of civilians over the past year.

[clear meadow]

exactly

[shy summit]

International intelligence has proven it.

[clear meadow]

doesnt open for me

[thorny steeple]

Bro in 1941 why Americans citizens fight in Europe while they don't have to go there to fight Bec they felt they are in danger . Now Gaza ppl were being killed in the last 20 years why they don't fight back

[thorny steeple]

Anyways Igaf
Cya

[clear meadow]

dont start a debate then

[thorny steeple]

70% not terrorists

[thorny steeple]

It's not a debate it's shit

[clear meadow]

look up the liberty incident brother

[thorny steeple]

Debate is with logic and I don't see a logic here

[clear meadow]

i dont see urs

so yea

see u next time

[thorny steeple]

I'm gonna say everyone blame Muslims as terrorists

While the real killers with big numbers of lives aren't Muslims

@feral river I wanted some information from you
See your frnd request

[feral river]

let's pass this one 😭

I don't wanna get in trouble with such topics over and over again to debate with some stupid stuff

I assume that's a truth okay no comment

[shy summit]

It’s not a debate thing? Its just a fact. It was proven in multiple areas

But yes, pro-israeli media has tried to deny it to no avail

[feral river]

well okay that's a fact I assume idk if it's a fact or not but I assume it's a fact

I'm not gonna deny the immoral thing they have done to non-israeli citizens

and you accuse for it, make sense

idfc that unless it will affect the war progress for them

administration rules in occupation area I already researched a lot and those are totally out of morality

just please don't use a civil prospect to evaluate all of these stuff

I believe that's definitely not a conversation in faith

you perfectly destroyed them good job.

I'm dumb as fuck I forgot the population data

[dense agate]

this only means they haven't genocided enough

[feral river]

💀

negatively genocide

https://investors.lockheedmartin.com/static-files/77c57490-f363-4fae-af80-04e694690b3d

Cash from operations was $1.9 billion in the second quarter
of 2024, compared to $1.1 billion in the second quarter of 2023. Free cash flow was $1.5 billion in the
second quarter of 2024, compared to $771 million in the second quarter of 2023

Consequently, demand for our defense technology solutions remains robust, with a backlog of nearly $160 billion, greater than two times annual revenue,” said Lockheed Martin Chairman, President and CEO Jim Taiclet.

actually I'm really down with the lockheed martin

[dapper laurel]

But that is the population of the region, not the Uyghurs, those can be chinese settlers btw

Then who is identified as Uyghur?

The inhabitant of the region? Do you identify him with the ethnicity? Or by religion? These data are not very reliable

Or they can simply kill people who rebel against the regime, that's why the population grows, but it would still be a crime

Prove point 2

What if you identified the inhabitants of the region as Uyghurs, not the people who are ethnically Uyghurs?

[dapper laurel]

Prove to me that this statement is false

[dense agate]

even though there were some reports of death in custody, when people call it genocide they refer to mass internment, cultural and religious suppression, forced labor, etc...

[feral river]

it's literally unrealistic to do a DNA test to identify which person is a pure Uyhgur or not.

[dapper laurel]

Well well well

[feral river]

all they have is just their paperwork after getting borned

[dapper laurel]

Well well well

[dense agate]

dude that's not even how ethnic identity works lel

[feral river]

you can try to explain it to me what else they got besides the paperwork

[dapper laurel]

So how do you identify Uyghurs? At this point anyone could call themselves Uyghurs, or could the Chinese government push its citizens into a farce?

[feral river]

or you believe in self-determination which means if you identify yourself as Uyghurs then you are Uyhgurs ?

[feral river]

paperwork we have family documents contained the ethnicitity informations

[dense agate]

ethnicity is mainly a social and cultural construct

it also involves language, religion, traditions, history and a sense of belonging to a certain group

[feral river]

and they get to the register after they got a birth which means if their parents are Uyhgurs then they borned a Uyhgur kid

[dapper laurel]

What if you are doing what you did with Tibet?

It can be a solid well well well

[smoky pagoda]

[dapper laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/well-well-well-rich-rebuilds-what-do-we-have-here-would-you-look-at-that-gif-16247970545609195581

[feral river]

still paperwork we got all of those family-household documents to identify which guy is a Han or a Uyhgur where is he come from

[dapper laurel]

And what if Freemasonry falsifies these documents? Well, now what do you think?

What if China was ruled by a Masonic order?

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-boom-iron-man-gif-14282225

[feral river]

1st, there's literally no benefit to falsify those documents, 2nd, if they falsified the documents, then you have nothing could do with them

I just...

[dapper laurel]

You don't think like Freemasonry would

[feral river]

it's like what when you asked me this question

[feral river]

what's the point of doing it

😭

[dapper laurel]

I'm joking actually, I'm just going a little crazy

BUT THINK ABOUT IT

Trust me

I am more reliable

[feral river]

they are the only authority to handle these data and paperwork, it's well-documented with the link of your biological informations so I don't think that's possible

[dapper laurel]

I'm a freak of nature

[dapper laurel]

What if it were possible????!???!? Remember that Jesus rose from dead, everything is possible

Checkmate bro

[feral river]

you won 😭

[dapper laurel]

😌😌

[dapper laurel]

How's life anyway?

[feral river]

just good but it's raining out here

[dapper laurel]

Happy for you, do you think time exists?

[feral river]

there's only one factor that determines the ethnicity which is the birth.

at least it's the birth in China

you can't identify yourself as a uyhgur if you converted to their religion or adopted their culture

no matter how struggle of yourself to dive into the Uyhgur community, your ethnicity on documents will remained as the ethnicity you are after you got birth or registration.

but actually... in some places if you are a minority you can change your ethnicity to Han by some paperwork that you could proof that you are a Han

but change it to minority ethnicities, not a chance.

[prisma cipher]

Right girl is better

[dapper laurel]

50/50

[dapper laurel]

Right

They're both beautiful though

[prisma cipher]

Not for me, but it might be just good pic, she might look lame in different angle

[dapper laurel]

Let's say they are beautiful, but in general I follow other standards of beauty

I conform to Western standards

[prisma cipher]

Yes she looks lame now

[prisma cipher]

I like Asian girls

[dapper laurel]

They are not bad, but I prefer European girls

[prisma cipher]

90% European ugly

What are you talking about

[dapper laurel]

How???

[thorny steeple]

Hi

Wow she looks nice

[dapper laurel]

Walking down the street I only see baddies here

[thorny steeple]

I want to walk down too with my girls

[dense agate]

they can be faked and mimicked, so ? that doesn't mean they're irrelevant in defining ethnicity.
even though there could be shared genetics within a certain group, an ethnic identity isn't only based on that, genetics don't carry memes ( ideas, behaviors, or practices that spread within a culture or community)

[thorny steeple]

Yess I love her

Actually I love Chinese, japanese and Korean girls more than anyone else

[dapper laurel]

How can you consider this ugly? This is the average of European girls

She is an Argentine with Italian origins, but shhhhhh

[thorny steeple]

This is perfection

[prisma cipher]

Are you joking?

[dapper laurel]

She's the true stacy

[thorny steeple]

But I prefer Korean girls actually

[dapper laurel]

Well, we have different tastes

[prisma cipher]

looks like a girl below average in Russia.

[thorny steeple]

True. What about Brazilian girls

[dapper laurel]

She's a model wtf

[prisma cipher]

In mi taste she isn't even pretty, not my type

[dapper laurel]

You are very demanding

[thorny steeple]

Frrr

[dense agate]

this ain't the average looking girl buddy

[feral river]

she's a Uyhgur what the heck ?

I don't even know she's a Uyhgur

[dapper laurel]

European girls could all be models

[prisma cipher]

Left Asian girl better that her.

[dapper laurel]

We have different tastes brother

It's quite subjective

[prisma cipher]

Yes I like beautiful ladies

[dapper laurel]

"even Indians" 💀💀

What do you all have against Indians? Lol

[dense agate]

equivalent of : i respect all the races, even the bad ones

omegalel

[dapper laurel]

Is this nice for you instead?

[prisma cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/hitam-atau-black-laugh-white-teeth-gif-16766958

[prisma cipher]

Better but too sweet

But this girl I consider beautiful

[dense agate]

dude why are all you images look like they were taken decades ago

[dapper laurel]

These are some models when they were young

[prisma cipher]

Check Alina Rin https://youtube.com/shorts/JDzrpzlI2JU?si=o13wO5TUxJpuIPaA

Russian

[dense agate]

even much more important than the Russian woman

silent hill 2 remake is looking goooood

[prisma cipher]

Yes a don't play much original one

[dense agate]

i guess they've lost their charm then

[dapper laurel]

Yes

[dense agate]

i played the original last year, pretty good

[dapper laurel]

But they were so beautiful

[prisma cipher]

Those games always were too smart for me and I getting stuck somewhere and don't know where to go

[dense agate]

puzzles weren't that hard, but it was fun trying to figure out what was happening and the plot. 10/10 game

i ain't going to play the remake, they turned Angela's face into a gigachad

[prisma cipher]

Oh dude you don't know about Russian translate problem, we play pirate copy of those games, and translation was 😆

[prisma cipher]

Often it was no way to figure those puzzles

[dense agate]

didn't the game have russian language ?

almost all the games i've played include Russian

[prisma cipher]

It was even voiced sometime, but translated by amateurs people.

[prisma cipher]

Not back then, when silent Hill 2 was out. I might be wrong about silent Hill. But resident evil have worst translation, it was impossible to figure some puzzles

Most likely silent Hill too

[dapper laurel]

@prisma cipher do you like this girl?

[prisma cipher]

https://youtu.be/1WZSfDc8jjc?si=MpPOcvaYzQo5Olhw

Watch this Russian dub

[dense agate]

it sounds soulless

[prisma cipher]

it's like you and I will do a voiceover

Watch how Russian dude play old silent Hill with original Russian and just laugh non stop

https://youtu.be/FVIuyUMsHV0?si=MdU84B5kQ_hhEHa6

Sadly I can't explain what is the problem

[dense agate]

minimum wage aaah voice actors

dubs of Japanese games from early 2000s were hit or miss for many titles, like for example yakuza 1

[thorny steeple]

How to stop sneezing

[dense agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QJZGvIlO-I&t=536s&ab_channel=PinkoPlusKoi

[thorny steeple]

Help me please and stop talking about+18 things

[prisma cipher]

I just play Yakuza 0

[dense agate]

have you played Stalker ? that game should have proper Russian dubs

even the Witcher 3 i assume

[prisma cipher]

Hate stalker, so bad. But it cult game among Russian.

there was a funny voice acting, as far as I remember, the voice pretty good

in modern games, Russian du b is done by professional actors, and it is at a very good level

[dense agate]

although i never finished it, it was fun, kind of similar to Metro Exodus

[dense agate]

yea, there are also some major games that were made in Russia lately

[prisma cipher]

I wonder if they have old Yakuza games on switch, because it's only way I play it. Because somehow old games fun to play on Nintendo

[dense agate]

don't they like charge a subscription to do so ?

[prisma cipher]

No I mean Russian dub for foreign games, sony games always have dope Russian dub

[dense agate]

i personally install an emulator on my pc to play such old games, since ports sometimes aren't done well

[feral river]

hoi4

[dense agate]

why tf would you run hoi4 on an emulator ??

[true pebble]

you will emulate a computer with a computer

[unique light]

John Pork 👍

[true pebble]

What you guys think about the automatization of the economy?

[unique light]

Make it controlled by ChatGPT

[true pebble]

lmao

[unique light]

Why not?

I am using it for programming purposes

[true pebble]

did i say something?

[thorny steeple]

Y'know AI don't give good code at the moment

[thorny steeple]

He looks boer

[thorny steeple]

Fan of the Boer?

[thorny steeple]

Average southern brazilian girls are better but I won't explain why because I respect the women in here

[thorny steeple]

Okey how's the weather there

[thorny steeple]

Kind of. Boer was a term for dutch settlers but apparently everyone who's of German ascendency uses this designation

[thorny steeple]

Interesting 🧐

[thorny steeple]

Colder than the rest of Brazil. It even snows there at times

[thorny steeple]

Well ofc you aren't in Amazonas

[thorny steeple]

I mean they're way colder than these states in dark red in there

But it doesn't snow in Brazil most of the time

[thorny steeple]

Seen snow?

[thorny steeple]

I never have but I hate cold climates tbh

[thorny steeple]

Then fan of The summer 🌞 heat

My state is that one represented by the Spanish flag

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

I'm a true tropicalist

[feral river]

Why you can’t run a thousands of years unchanged long ass single core utilizer in a freaking emulator

[midnight pendant]

Slowmode unabled

M

M

why slow mode is only in the section

hey seicous

man

[dapper laurel]

Don't they have European features too?

[smoky pagoda]

[rich thorn]

[rich thorn]

lol no, i almost never check this channel

[dense agate]

胖胖美国人 对装甲兵的怒吼 故意痛苦的河流使他人安全 医务人员将重点放在那些吃拳头的人身上

Atomic Heart is one

https://tenor.com/view/atomic-heart-robot-girls-soviet-robot-women-gif-27446258

[feral river]

Fatty Americans, irritably shout to the armed soldiers, deliberately painful river make other secure, medics focused on the man who tasted the punches

It doesn’t even make sense lol

https://youtube.com/shorts/hiQjfEiulN0?si=EY_CN11Rj2aDZZ9d

@shy summit what the fuck is this app