🧠｜serious-chat

[thorny steeple]

Who wants third world war?

[feral river]

I don't need a world war but a proxy war.

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-boy-cowboy-gif-19597798

[feral river]

if we can conduct proxy war like US and Russia does, we will gain numerous benefit.

with little pay

[thorny steeple]

But u are from china

what do you mean

[feral river]

yeah

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-this-we-breaking-bad-meme-we-gif-25916954

[feral river]

that's because I can't find another word to replace "我们" which is we.

and we call ourselves, we don't say China or Chinese but we say we

[thorny steeple]

I mean u don't have much to do with the war

[feral river]

unlike some people in other countries they call their government or their country as their country name

we call our country we

[thorny steeple]

Yeah but China don't have anything to do with the war in israel

So what do you mean

We

What benefit are u going to gain from that

Anyway I want third world war so much

I want to see the boom boom

[feral river]

I mean if we can create a proxy war expand our influence that will be beneficial.

[thorny steeple]

China? Nah

[dapper laurel]

I want to enlist and go boom boom instead

[feral river]

THAT'S FREAKING AWESOME

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-show-the-ghoul-cooper-howard-gif-5087114750724411512

[thorny steeple]

Really? Are u going to enlist?

[dapper laurel]

I would be the perfect Western soldier

[thorny steeple]

I can't because I am a little blind

[thorny steeple]

Nice

NATO Soldier

[dapper laurel]

For now I'm too young, but I want to enlist in the future, I would like to fight in Ukraine

[thorny steeple]

Ukraine is gonna win soon

Like in some years at max

[feral river]

if I can get Israeli citizenship by fighting a war against terrorists, I will do that.

the truth is I can't.

[thorny steeple]

Isreal is not as good as it looks

I prefer Europe

[feral river]

Israel is not as good as it looks, but Israeli citizenship definitely is.

[dapper laurel]

They no longer have Western support, but it's too early to say who can win at the moment

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-joddamn-right-jod-joddamn-walter-white-breaking-bad-gif-24853055

[dapper laurel]

You're obsessed with Israel

[feral river]

I'm pretty known about Israel, isn't it ?

maybe not

[thorny steeple]

Imho war is gonna make the world better

[dapper laurel]

However they don't like foreigners

[thorny steeple]

A third world war would be perfect right now, for a little change

[feral river]

Israel literally declare if you are jewish you can be a citizen of Israel without naturalization.

[dapper laurel]

A "futurist" current in my country said: "war is the hygiene of the world"

[feral river]

and if you believe in Judaism, you are jewish

[dapper laurel]

It's good for natural selection

[thorny steeple]

It's more like the pinnacle of capitalistic societies

[feral river]

but you need to pass some crazy test made by Israeli and learn Hebrew

that's quite suffering.

[thorny steeple]

Natural selection is not really a good thing lol

[thorny steeple]

Take some year

But it's not really worth it

[feral river]

not worth it

[thorny steeple]

Better to go on Europe or USA

[feral river]

I can just go anywhere I want why Israel ?

[dapper laurel]

It is the element that allowed human beings to get to where they are now

[feral river]

I prefer US green card

[gaunt bronze]

yk ive always wondered um how do u have access from china 😭

[thorny steeple]

Yeah but natural selection is also what created the plague

And cancer

[feral river]

VPN in mainland, and now I'm in South Korea

[thorny steeple]

Natural selection don't improve organism, it just change them for the worse or the better

[dapper laurel]

I think it's more genetic

[gaunt bronze]

did you move to south korea??

[thorny steeple]

It's natural selection

Evolution if we want to be more technically good

[feral river]

nope just study here for one term paid by school

[gaunt bronze]

Ohh, university??

[thorny steeple]

USA is good

[feral river]

and I ever been South/North Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia etc.

[dapper laurel]

Obviously

[feral river]

I don't think that's hard;

actually for a mainlander, it's not hard to access western website and go outside of China

just got the money you need

[dapper laurel]

It isn't anymore since we can almost cure it, many of my relatives have recovered from cancer

[thorny steeple]

A lot chinese people do tht

[thorny steeple]

Yeah but natural selection "created" cancer

technology is not evolution

And cancer it's not a defect

it's just a thing

[feral river]

natural selection is just a progress, technology is also a progress

you may benefit from it, or you may dead from it

[thorny steeple]

No natural selection is not about progress, it's about change

It's literally random change shaped by the enviroment

[feral river]

you can't stop that progress.

[thorny steeple]

Brothers I am a fk biologist

[feral river]

that's the truth and that exist.

[thorny steeple]

My country is full of chinese people

They work a lot

Are u serious oh my god

[dapper laurel]

Cancer is a "disease" that has led to a natural selection of some individuals in the end

[thorny steeple]

They are literally organeless of celles used for Krebs cycle (atp stuff etc)

[thorny steeple]

Yeah but we have this disease for our ancestors

Like we evolved that way

[dapper laurel]

Oooh, I studied the Krebs cycle in school, finally it's useful for something

[thorny steeple]

And not only but other illness evolved to kill humans

Illness are as natural process as breathing

[thorny steeple]

Nice

The krebs cycle is actually pretty fk tough to study

The chemistry behind is astonishing

[dapper laurel]

They don't teach us that 🤣

[thorny steeple]

It's easy as fk to pay taxes

I don't see why they should teach braindead stuff in school

[dapper laurel]

In fact, when my classmates are questioned by the teacher they make a silent scene

[thorny steeple]

Anyway here in my country sadnly they teach us those things in high school for 2 hours every week

[dapper laurel]

You can actually figure out how to pay your taxes in 15 minutes (if you're slow)

[thorny steeple]

Yeah

I mean it's literally writed in the contracts

I wonder why they don't teach u to breath in school

[dapper laurel]

Why don't they teach us how to walk?

[thorny steeple]

Well our parents do that

Walking it's pretty hard

I think is far harder than learning high school math

It's just that kids learn 4 / 10 times faster than adults

[dapper laurel]

I have my math test on Friday

[thorny steeple]

U can teach kids high school math at literally 6 years old

I am unironically speaking about the average children and it's a fact

[dapper laurel]

They have higher neurological development

[thorny steeple]

It's difficult to do that because usually they are not interested but they brain is develeoped enough to do that

[thorny steeple]

If u learn something like advanced math before twelve u are going to become extremely unskilled

[dapper laurel]

But how does it work for premature babies? (I ask because I was born premature)

[thorny steeple]

It's biologically impossibile to have the brain develeoped as much as child prodigies because they are in the perfect state for learning

[thorny steeple]

it's not about premature or stuff

It's how the growth stages of the human brains works

Humans learn extremely fast even at eighty

compared to other animals

[dapper laurel]

Because the doctors said I had to catch up on psychomotor skill development or something by the end of elementary school, even though I never had any problems in elementary school

[thorny steeple]

Sometimes premature children are less develeoped other times not

This is better to explain

I've two children, one is six the other is seven

I am teaching them a lot of stuff

With funny games usually, and they have a lot fun doing it. My two daughters are currently studying programming by their owns with basically no effort, they made a tiny robot with a microcontroller

U can see that

[dapper laurel]

It's a positive thing, children need new experiences, to see new things, to talk about various topics, to read, this can stimulate them

[thorny steeple]

I don't know why many parents don't teach their children, in the past people used to teach children stuff at young age because they learn so fk fast

[thorny steeple]

Videogames are great also

I teached them logic gates with minecraft

[dapper laurel]

In your opinion, can intelligence be determined by genetics?

[thorny steeple]

Everything is determined by genetics

The thing is that the human brain can literally change almost completely a function of a wide area

In a couple of months... In people that are old

And intelligence is psychology

There's nothing like that in biology because makes little no sense

U cannot measure someone intelligence by number of synapsis and stuff

[dapper laurel]

I read an article that said IQ can increase by 21 points as you grow

[thorny steeple]

Yes it's true

Like IQ tests are dumb really

Matrix raven are easy, they measure how much time u need to make a logic calculation

[dapper laurel]

So intelligence is not something stable, many claimed that IQ remained the same from birth

[thorny steeple]

Intelligence simple don't exist

[dapper laurel]

So there are no smart people and slow people

[thorny steeple]

U are slow when u suck at something

The brightest mathematician probably can't do a backflip

And backflip require an high amount of calculation in the brain

[dapper laurel]

But they have the ability to reason in the abstract

[thorny steeple]

People with high cinestetic capabilities are usually quite smart

[thorny steeple]

Yeah and u can train that easily

It just take years to do

It's far more easy to train abstract reasoning than to train cinestic abilities

Like in a couple years an averge human can go from complete idiot to engineer

And by studying engineering you would increase your iq because the iq test is based on stuff that need less calculation that what the average engineer have to do daily

[dapper laurel]

You're absolutely right about that, I've seen a lot of people like that

[thorny steeple]

U can even train to do extreme calculation with your mind

[loud hatch]

I'm an IELTS PTE and ESL trainer.
If anyone is interested to join coaching,let me know.
Thnx

[thorny steeple]

Usually people that are extremely good at something

Have great talent but they learn many many more hours than other people

Just to give u an idea of a learning curve

[dapper laurel]

How?

[thorny steeple]

It's actually pretty easy

The first step it's really just doing a lot of calculation with your mind

The second step is to learn a lot of algebraic and arithmetic properties

Immagine for example that u want to do somethinglike 550^2 - 445^2

It's easy isn't it?

Even a normal student can do that with his mind

(550 + 445)(550 - 445) = 244750*105

And it's just a product with three numbers

not too much difficult, remember u train many hours doing the basic operation

25698750 i think

Or immagine that u want to do that

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 +5 + 6+ 7 +8 +... + 100

5050

because it's n(n + 1)/2

u can just that 50 numbers wich the sum is 100 and then 100 + 1

because u have

99 + 1 etc

98 + 2

U learn those things u know even a little about series, that's why math olympians do that with ease

They literally train something like 5000 hours to do that

At least

learning curve of a competitive programmer for example

it's a logarithmic curve as u can see

numbers of problems vs rating

u can do a similiar thing with chess

same curve

Anyway u can try those things

Pick a topic and learn it for hundreds of hours

And track ur self with some data by doing test or whatever

Why is logarithmic?

Well eheh

Neuronal spikes trains with exponentials

It's difficult to explain

[lusty zenith]

🤓

[dapper laurel]

I haven't studied logarithms yet, but it's interesting

[dapper laurel]

I didn't know how to play chess before, now I have developed some skills after a few months of training

[thorny steeple]

never say months

you should say hours

it's different to train 8 hours every day than to trian one hour every day

[elfin summit]

Hello

[dapper laurel]

I train a maximum of 30 minutes a day, it would be a few hours

[thorny steeple]

you see

so it's not one month

[thorny steeple]

it's like 900 minutes

a month

15 hours

I read it something else lol

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-emoji-laughing-emoji-animated-laugh-gif-27394849

[thorny steeple]

Gotcha

[abstract hamlet]

Hi

Anyone here

[static pivot]

Good voice

[thorny steeple]

Ikr

[thorny steeple]

And it's basically useless because eventually you're allowed to use a calculator on the exam and you're allowed to use the power of the computer while you're working because why do it yourself when a machine can do it for you?

[toxic tinsel]

Hi! is everyone sleeping?

[prisma cipher]

it's a good workout for your brain.

[stoic flax]

helloo

[thorny steeple]

Interesting although I played chess IRL I haven't trained for it since awhile

[thorny steeple]

Most likely who knows

[thorny steeple]

Well that's understandable, but there's a reason we trained and hone skills for to be honest

[jolly agate]

you

[thorny steeple]

Ye?

[jolly agate]

sleep

[thorny steeple]

Ye I think 12 hours

[jolly agate]

what do you mean

[thorny steeple]

I already slept

[jolly agate]

for 12 hours

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[jolly agate]

💀💀

Im out of here

[thorny steeple]

Obviously

[thorny steeple]

Ye

[wet cedar]

Collaboration? what do you mean?

[thorny steeple]

Get payed

[wet cedar]

new mexico

yeah

[thorny steeple]

Well didn't know you were a fan boy

[feral river]

Nah that’s not me I’m just sharing it 🤣

I’m not a pro-CCP or pro-totalitarian

[thorny steeple]

Obviously

[sour marlin]

@mint idol

[thorny steeple]

I’m going to make Putin like this

[wet cedar]

lol

[feral river]

I'm looking for a long time but why isn't there anyone Israeli ?

[sour marlin]

There was a chilling Israeli but he left I guess

[feral river]

well maybe I doubt that jews like to debate but I didn't see one and I'm literally interested to convert to Judaism.

I think there is only one country in the world have the internet barrier ? China mainland ?

I don't know Iran or some country also authoritarian has an internet firewall or something, but we have that in China mainland

[balmy matrix]

@hasty gull

[wet cedar]

why do you want to become jewish?

[thorn lagoon]

To become a noahide ?

[sour marlin]

Well, the Jews I've seen in this server was never interested to debate with Muslims😂

[hasty gull]

yeah am jewish

[feral river]

Yo bro remember me

[hasty gull]

yep

[mint idol]

Interesting

[feral river]

Obviously, if this is a regular question I will say because I realized the Jewish way to thinking in Judaism is the true path to the heaven

[balmy matrix]

do chinese even believe in heaven

[feral river]

And if you want to hear the real word, I will say it’s because a Jewish status is more accessible in western world which you are more likely to get any status you needed, like Western citizenship

[gaunt glen]

Get out toxic troll

[feral river]

Nope

[balmy matrix]

meow

[balmy matrix]

so you're considered a gay chinese now

[feral river]

Nope I’m not a gay

I’m a straight

[balmy matrix]

without the a

[feral river]

I see

So I’m straight

[gaunt glen]

hmm anyway

[balmy matrix]

so u won't marry me chinese

💔

[feral river]

Why ? U wanna Chinese citizenship ?

[balmy matrix]

nah not interesting

[feral river]

We doesn’t really recognize the marriage between gays

[balmy matrix]

are there strict laws like Russia?

[feral river]

How much time I’m gonna spend on Judaism so I can have a proof of Judaism from rabbi ? If I understand correctly.

[feral river]

Idk ? I’m not Russian

[balmy matrix]

In china, are there as strict laws as russia against gays?

[sour marlin]

I heard from someone that ppl from other religions can't convert to Judaism

[feral river]

nope you can be anything you want

Just don’t protest and seek political status in the society you will be okay

[sour marlin]

And only those children with Jewish mothers are considered Jewish

[feral river]

They can

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_to_Judaism?wprov=sfti1#

[balmy matrix]

it isn't Missionary religion

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return?wprov=sfti1

If you believe in Judaism you can be Jewish, if you can proof you are Jewish, you can be citizen of Israel

Just need something to proof like certifications

And I don’t think that’s really hard to study a religion because I’m already known about a lot of things like geopolitics, religion, ideologies, philosophy

[balmy matrix]

would u Abandon your chinese citizenship for isreal's one

[feral river]

Hunmmmmm, maybe double nationality would be ideal

But if you want to let me choose one, I will choose Chinese one

Also I can spend like 60000 usd to use another passport from some island country in South America to avoid being caught

So that’s one of my major considerations for the future

[balmy matrix]

and what caught your attention most about judaism

[feral river]

Not the Judaism but the policy of Israel and western countries like United States

I need to be accessible in those countries

And Judaism itself… still awesome

I’m a capitalist

[sour marlin]

So u wanna convert just to have Israel's citizenship?

[balmy matrix]

seems like

[feral river]

Nope, as I said to be accessible

This logic doesn’t really hard to understand because you have to consider a lot to convert to be religious in China

I have to make sure I can stand in a place which I already converted

China isn’t on the list

But I’m still Chinese like holding Chinese passport, but I will lose my advantages like be a member of Chinese communist party

[balmy matrix]

I think you're more interested in isreal itself than to become a jew.

[feral river]

If it’s only Israel I won’t be that, but the status for the whole west

That’s just incredibly accessible I just realized the status of religion itself in west is just like CCP in China

It’s more than a citizenship, but a social status

[balmy matrix]

well

[craggy sphinx]

Hello beings of the highest light

[hasty gull]

ik there is "Beit Habad" in china some religious place for jewish people in china.
but if you will be a jew what level of a jew?

[feral river]

I'm not really familiar to this term about the level of jew, but I can say at least to be qualified to be a citizen of Israel.

[craggy sphinx]

[feral river]

I think if I can do that, that level isn't really low

[craggy sphinx]

is it bad?

[hasty gull]

do you have Tanah? or Torah

[craggy sphinx]

i know

[feral river]

this one ?

[feral river]

well I can just get one lol

[vapid hare]

Was there some secret verse I didn't know about

[hasty gull]

you should buy a Tana"h

[thorn lagoon]

Just be a good goy instead (noahide )

[hasty gull]

lol

[feral river]

that's not my point to living

[thorn lagoon]

That's a christian philosopher ,Origen, castrating himself ,in his literal reading ofMatthew 19:12

12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

[thorn lagoon]

I blur the stuff out

[feral river]

Tanakh ?

[hasty gull]

idk how you call it in english but in hebrew it is תנ"ך (Tana"h)

[feral river]

I guess it's Tanakh

[vapid hare]

Isn't that about voluntary celibacy/chastity?

[hasty gull]

like the jewish holy book that has many books inside of it

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah, but he read it literally and castrated himself

[vapid hare]

Well at least he's dedicated to his faith. Props ig

[thorn lagoon]

or it was just a propaganda by his haters . He has a lot of haters in the 3rd century

[vapid hare]

Anti-origen propaganda by his opps

[vapid hare]

Why is there a random man on the far-right about to burn himself to death

[hasty gull]

feel free to ask me anything if you need help

[vapid hare]

Are you israeli?

[hasty gull]

yeah

[vapid hare]

Cool. Do you guys like netanyahu there?

[hasty gull]

nope

[vapid hare]

Ohh is it cause of the war or something else

[hasty gull]

mostly because of other stuff that happend before the war

but we blame the war on netanyahu

[vapid hare]

The judicial reforms?

[hasty gull]

yeah religious stuff he did, him being currently in court for corruption, him not seeing that the whole war is Netanyahu VS "Netanyahu's Children" , him not realising he is just destroying the country

[vapid hare]

Sounds like bibi done some bad things huh

[hasty gull]

yeah he just want to be the prime minister no matter what

[vapid hare]

Can't you remove him. Vote of no confidence or something similar

[hasty gull]

well he is smart after all....
staying in power for this long does require you to be smart.
He opened something that is called "Emergency Government"
that mean that during the war no matter what he will be the government untill the end of the war
after Netanyahu Probably Gantz will be the prime minister

[vapid hare]

Which means he has a vested interest to keep the war going (so he'll stay in power).

[hasty gull]

exactly

but it is not like after Netenyahu it is guarenteed somone better the israeli people will probably vote for another rightist which can be a better one or a worse one, only time will tell

[vapid hare]

An unending cycle of far-right leaders

[hasty gull]

well i hate the leftist ones tbh

[vapid hare]

Would you rather a centrist then?

[hasty gull]

i would rather center-right like my political opinion.

[vapid hare]

I see. Are there any candidates who would fit the bill then? Or are they all just extremist politics-wise

[hasty gull]

maybe Gantz? idk

[feral river]

ty!

[vapid hare]

Whats your point of view on the whole gazan war and stuff? As an israeli.

[hasty gull]

Personally i support the war,
The point of it is to defend the south and make sure it will never happen again

[vapid hare]

To prevent Hamas doing what they did on oct again ig

[hasty gull]

on oct 7 and for the last 19 years

[vapid hare]

Whats your opinion on those who think the oct 7 attack was justified cause of Israel's long-time occupation of palestinian lands?

[hasty gull]

well i believe this war is all about consequences and for this reason i think it is wrong to think like that

[vapid hare]

How do you think the war will end

[hasty gull]

idk, seems like nobody cares about the day after the war....

well from what i know the war will end in more than a year

[wet echo]

Hola

[velvet ridge]

Ola

[mental pawn]

Hello

[vapid hare]

What do you think will finally end the broader israeli-palestinian conflict? Two-state solution? Bi-national solution?

[feral river]

yeah that's for ensuring the security of israel and israeli people.

[hasty gull]

hmmmm......
i believe if both side will stop caring about land and start focusing about peace it is possible,
but it wont happen so it would never end

there is always the one state sollution....

[hasty gull]

palestine will never have a country...

[vapid hare]

I see. Whys that the case?

[vapid hare]

Im sure the palestinians wouldn't accept such a solution

[hasty gull]

israel lost all their trust in the palestinians...
israel probably stop try to achieve peace with them
palestine doesnt stand the requirements of being independent and thats why even the UN doesnt recognize palestine as an independent country

[vapid hare]

Didnt the UN general assembly overwhelmingly back palestine's membership bid. Ofc thats for the Security Council to decide

[hasty gull]

well palestine doesnt stand the requirements of being a real country, which is being independent, palestine is not independent

i mean thats kinda impossible being indepentent while only controling area c of west bank

[feral river]

I only have one word to explain: Palestine isn't a sovereign state.

[vapid hare]

They are autonomous though right? Self-rule and stuff

[hasty gull]

exactly

[hasty gull]

area c yes area b its them and the israeli government

[vapid hare]

And area A is just the israeli government

[hasty gull]

yeah

[thorny steeple]

But you won't tell the reason, will ya?

[thorny steeple]

You have to train skills that you can use, handy skills, not useless skills.

[prisma cipher]

I said this skill trains your brain, so it is a useful skill

[thorny steeple]

Fair, do you do some large maths operations in your brain daily?

[prisma cipher]

I don’t eat healthy food, which doesn’t stop me from saying that those who eat it do a right thing

[feral river]

is your healthy food vegan ?

[thorny steeple]

🤦‍♂️

[prisma cipher]

@feral river mi healthy food is abstraction

[thorny steeple]

I say it's a good skill to train, but I've never even tried. Good logic, good on ya 💯

It's nice to have, but I don't know where to use it.

[prisma cipher]

There is research that proves this.

[thorny steeple]

🤦‍♂️ Did I say it doesn't improve your maths skills?

[prisma cipher]

So annoying

Just don't waste our time

[thorny steeple]

Our? Who else doesn't want me to "waste someone's time"?

[prisma cipher]

[graceful bobcat]

why sould be serious while chanting some duplicate stufs

[thorny steeple]

Ahh 😩

[graceful bobcat]

u being serious to say ah i will make u ah thrice as hard

[thorny steeple]

Is thrice like three times rice?

[graceful bobcat]

nope

[thorny steeple]

Fair, how do you mean then?

[graceful bobcat]

yep

look how is that

dont be serious just do it

[thorny steeple]

Contradiction, but it's ok

[slim fjord]

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[sudden ocean]

Is Minecraft_652 &265 the same person? I can't distinguish.

[thorny steeple]

Who knows

[loud hatch]

Hello
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[shadow fox]

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[rose eagle]

How many atheists exist in this chat

[safe crescent]

bRah

ik one hes ex

hes name is lil Aladin

[rose eagle]

I know him

[safe crescent]

Gud

[rose eagle]

Are you Christian or Muslim?

[safe crescent]

Why u care who i am?

[rose eagle]

Simply because I'm curious

[safe crescent]

Then im curious too which religion u belong to? or follow?

ur a high schooler ig

[rose eagle]

I follow Vietnamese folk beliefs

[safe crescent]

huh never heared of that

[safe crescent]

ig

Ok fine there 3500+ religions and is up to u to choose

i respect ur beliefs

[rose eagle]

We worship our ancestors and national heroes in history (not necessarily consider them gods).

[safe crescent]

btw im a Muslim

[rose eagle]

Ok

[safe crescent]

Worship means u take them as gods who else do u worship beside the god?

[rose eagle]

NO

[glacial lodge]

I'm legally Christian. I'm not that religious, though.

[safe crescent]

In this era who is

[rose eagle]

We worship them with the hope of receiving protection and finding peace of mind

[safe crescent]

but ic Muslim are close to their religion

[thorny steeple]

Since 1054 AD

[rose eagle]

we hope they will help and watch over us in heaven

[safe crescent]

so u consider hell and heaven?

[rose eagle]

almost the same (maybe)

[sour marlin]

They are always religious

But in this era things have changed

[rose eagle]

I also only believe in my beliefs in a limited way, not as religious as my parents

[safe crescent]

i read the history how they opposed the super-powers of their time

My Fav Gen Khalid ibn Walid

[rose eagle]

Are you a devout Muslim?

[safe crescent]

do u have some kind of holy book?

[thorny steeple]

Me at least

[safe crescent]

that is holy scripture for you?

[rose eagle]

I don't know, but the things I have are mainly books about Buddhism

[safe crescent]

Ok ! Got it ! i figured it out

ig ur religion is one the roots of budhism..

am i right?

[rose eagle]

We Vietnamese people also believe in Buddhism to a certain extent. Do you know which temple is the largest in the world?

[rose eagle]

Idk

[safe crescent]

i thinks its in indo

[thorny steeple]

Thought we're gonna talk about atheism, you guys talk about which temple is the biggest in the world lol

[rose eagle]

So what?

[thorny steeple]

Well same here

[safe crescent]

Huh

[sour marlin]

Tbh I have no clue about atheism

Now could u pls elaborate about ur believes as an atheist?

I'd like to know according to atheism how this world started and BY WHO?
What will happen at the end and what's the purpose of life

[manic juniper]

The Big Bang and no one is responsible for it

[thorny steeple]

@formal pilot

[formal pilot]

Yeah I'm here

[thorny steeple]

According to international laws, if a country attacks your property, which maybe an embassy or anything

Yeah, it's enough to start a war

Iran did missile and drone attacks on Israel

[manic juniper]

What is this source

[formal pilot]

That was just to showcase ability to launch attacks

[manic juniper]

What will happen in the end is called Heat Death btw

It's what happens when all the universe is filled with black holes vastly separated by empty spaces, and those black holes eventually dissolve

[thorny steeple]

Well, Iran also had a good opportunity to attack Israel

[thorn lagoon]

Heath death and then eventual another big big bang
Eternal conformal cyclic model

[manic juniper]

The entire universe will be effectively dead after that

[thorny steeple]

But it was more of a stunt since 99% of their attacks failed

[formal pilot]

It don't think so, Iran's nuclear program isn't complete yet

[thorn lagoon]

https://youtu.be/h-ZmwHOUAlw?si=4v5APv_vRCqliP9i

This cyclic model of cosmology aligns with Buddhism and Hinduism

[thorny steeple]

That has nothing related to the nuclear program

[formal pilot]

Yes it is

[sour marlin]

Researches

[formal pilot]

You can't go to war against a nuclear country

Without nuclear weapon

[manic juniper]

I was thinking the site or article

[sour marlin]

Who has predicted this to he happen?

[sour marlin]

I don't have access to one rn

[manic juniper]

A bunch of scientists, it's the likely outcome given that our material universe keeps expanding making the distance between celestial bodies increase

[thorn lagoon]

If everything is getting away from each other and

The entropy of a closed system increaes

And then everything will be disintegrated

So as to speak

[formal pilot]

But isn't entropy always decreases

[sour marlin]

But it's just their theory innit

[manic juniper]

Btw I don't think there are hints at the universe starting again to my knowledge, but I may be outdated on the discoveries and research since it isn't my field. There is also the fact that any event could happen

[manic juniper]

No it's a hypothesis, theories are provable

[thorn lagoon]

Entropy always increases with time

[manic juniper]

Evolution is a theory because you can observe its outcome, measure them, they can be recorded, there is no way we can measure how the universe will end

[thorn lagoon]

Sir Roger Penrose ( who's a noble prize winning mathematician) gave his reasoning why there will be another big bang after the heat death

[manic juniper]

It's just a series of intelligent observations made by a team of scientists

[sour marlin]

That's what takes me Miles away from atheism

[manic juniper]

Is it because of the likelihood of a random event after an extreme amount of time?

That is what I've read as a possible hypothesis of a second Big Bang

[formal pilot]

Wait i think i mixed it up with something else
Increase in entropy= more stable?

[manic juniper]

Those hypotheses aren't restricted to atheism, wasn't the person that discovered the Big Bang a Christian? Most Christians I know believe in it, even a priest I talked to does

[sour marlin]

I don't believe in Christianity itself

[manic juniper]

Plus it's not like religion has any advantage or legitimacy over those 💀 so far religion never proved anything but only tried to steal achievements from others

[manic juniper]

I didn't say you are Christian, it was just an example of Christians certainly believing in it

I'm sure the Catholic Church made statements on science so it isn't something exclusive to atheists

[thorn lagoon]

No

[thorn lagoon]

Less stable and more chaos so as to speak

[manic juniper]

I'll watch the video later then

I thought it was something akin to the infinite monkey theorem

[formal pilot]

Entropy is hella confusing for me

[sour marlin]

I see

[manic juniper]

However that means the likelihood of a second Mesozoic will increase over time

[sour marlin]

I think all the religions support BigBang theory except mine

[manic juniper]

And as time increases it's more likely for an infinite Mesozoic to take place

[manic juniper]

I don't think so, if one limits themselves to religious texts most of them don't mention anything similar

[thorn lagoon]

His reasoning is that all the sub-atomic particles (even electrons ) will be broken down into photons at the heath death and since photons didn't "experience time" or distance ( i.e it always take 0 time for photons to move from one place into another or it's instantaneous ).
He said this state of the heat death is non-different from the beginning of the universe where everything was condensed into a very small dimensionless point .

[manic juniper]

For example the one I'm most familiar with has an amoral entity send one or two space waterfowls to create the material universe

[thorn lagoon]

I hope iam presenting his view clearly lol

[manic juniper]

Yes

I understand

[thorn lagoon]

*photons not protons

[manic juniper]

Honestly I would like for that to be true outcome so that life can begin once more

[formal pilot]

Dayamm

[thorn lagoon]

https://youtu.be/K_FUlo8BF9Y?si=q1MwxWNRJ2EMATaP

[formal pilot]

@thorn lagoon What's your major?

[thorn lagoon]

Cse 😭

[formal pilot]

That's really really great

You're good with physics, how so

[thorn lagoon]

Not even physics but I watched this model a long time ago and I generally like this kinda topic

[thorn lagoon]

I just know rudimentary basic ideas lol ,nothing complicated

[formal pilot]

Ig I'm on similar page

[thorn lagoon]

whats your major ?

[formal pilot]

Human psychology

But I used to be good at physics

[thorn lagoon]

Dang , thats interesting

[formal pilot]

Indeed it is

[thorn lagoon]

Do you study psychoanalysis?

[formal pilot]

It is in our syllabus

I find it really difficult to understand anything which is linked to unconscious brain

Do you fancy astrophysics?

[manic juniper]

Torture

[formal pilot]

Check this bad boy out

💀

[manic juniper]

I stand with Sauropsida I sit on Mammalia

[formal pilot]

Sauropsida is just a fancy way to say reptiles

[manic juniper]

More or less, in reality it depends on your definition of reptiles

[ember abyss]

revanth

[night cedar]

holla

[manic juniper]

Since modern reptiles are all eureptiles, if you don't consider parareptiles as being true reptiles then you are excluding them

[ember abyss]

I am me

[manic juniper]

It's what's called a crown group, there is a similar definition with mammals

[night cedar]

yes

[formal pilot]

Yeah parareptiles can't be true reptiles, they're imposter

[ember abyss]

lets steal a human brain and put it in a robot

[night cedar]

ok

[manic juniper]

Their achievements alone speak clearly to me, they are true reptiles

[safe crescent]

@formal pilot Yo! LiL Aladin !

[formal pilot]

Aye aye captain

[safe crescent]

Sup! 👋

[formal pilot]

Everything is great, just trying to avoid arguments nowadays

Mostly It's not productive

[safe crescent]

huh! thats weird lmao i seen u talking about politics with pple

So wanna answer my wierd question ❓

[formal pilot]

I used to, now I rarely talk about it

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah I'd love to listen your question

Dont know if I can answer

[safe crescent]

Why is** uncertainty** the only certain thing?

there u go have your good time 😅🥴

[formal pilot]

It's a self contradictory question

And most likely to trigger my existential crisis

If uncertainty is certain then nothing is uncertain

Which is not true

It's a loop

[safe crescent]

LoL nvm

just my brain thinking weird stuff like this 😅😂

[formal pilot]

And now I'm infected

[safe crescent]

theres a lesson ig
while there are many uncertainties in life like becoming rich or enlightened, death is the only 100% certainty. Becoming aware of this certainty of death puts everything in perspective....

[formal pilot]

We should avoid philosophy

And just Live the life

[safe crescent]

Yea ig but these type of question gets me Rolling for a long time lmao

[formal pilot]

Now someone will say it's also a philosophical thing

[safe crescent]

i think i should meditate

[formal pilot]

How often do you go out?

[safe crescent]

very rare 😂 only when i "have" to

do you know about existentialists?

[formal pilot]

What's that?? I dunno about the terms

Seems like something to do with existential crisis

[formal pilot]

You should go out and think about real phenomenons instead of brain storming a thought

[safe crescent]

Existentialists are individuals who adhere to a philosophy that asserts the world lacks inherent meaning, emphasizing personal responsibility and the individual's isolation.......
(simply u can say they are polymath of philosophy)

[safe crescent]

Sure !

[formal pilot]

They're depressed for sure

I don't care about the meaning of world

I eat ice-cream i enjoy it

[safe crescent]

Sure they are ! 😂
introverts

[formal pilot]

That's all I know

[safe crescent]

Yum Yum !

u like 🍌?

its radioactive ☢️

[formal pilot]

Ofcourse

[safe crescent]

😂

[formal pilot]

I'm on extrovert side

[formal pilot]

It's not as radioactive as uranium

Potassium is kinda good

[safe crescent]

Yea ig for my kind of person who spend their most their time in their comfort zone its really hard to become extrovert at certain places

(but kinda just adjust)

and then back to normal 😂

[formal pilot]

Most of the time lack of socialising skills leads to introvertic behaviour

[formal pilot]

I can't relate

[safe crescent]

u cant !

[formal pilot]

[safe crescent]

cuz im alone

no bro or sis 😂

me and me only
me and my thoughts

[formal pilot]

What about friends?

Girlfriend

Friend's girlfriend

[safe crescent]

LoL ! They left one by one !

[thorny steeple]

Depleted uranium and natural uranium is not as much radioactive

[safe crescent]

Ik what r u getting at 😂

[thorny steeple]

U can teach it and they made tanks with it

[safe crescent]

im not interested in those things lmao

lil aladin naughty 🤣

[formal pilot]

What??

Nuclear tanks?

[thorny steeple]

No i mean they are used to make metal sheet that cover tanks

[formal pilot]

Create more, keep flowing dude

[thorny steeple]

War tanks

[safe crescent]

Nah they live very far my legs hurt 🤣😂

[thorny steeple]

The armor is made a lot of the times with uranium because it's a very dense material

[formal pilot]

Wthh

[thorny steeple]

Ceramic and plastic explosives instead are used to disperd the energy of the impact

[safe crescent]

The manufacturing process of war tanks involves building the hull, turret, adding armor, installing engines, attaching wheels and tracks, and incorporating weapons...

[thorny steeple]

HELLOO wut did they put a timer

[safe crescent]

Ig ur new here

[thorny steeple]

oh it’s not genreal

[safe crescent]

u will be used to it soon 😂

[thorny steeple]

Yeah i mean it's an armored vehicle with weaponry

[safe crescent]

"flow of life"

[thorny steeple]

I thought this was genreal

[formal pilot]

You need to socialize dude, create more friends

[thorny steeple]

Have u ever made a bullet proof vest at home?

[thorny steeple]

"flood of life"

[safe crescent]

this is serious!

[thorny steeple]

They are so easy to make

[safe crescent]

Overflow 💀

[thorny steeple]

I've made one with aluminum and ceramic

[thorny steeple]

💀

It took me like an hour to do it, I temperd the aluminium also

[thorny steeple]

but

[safe crescent]

Well..Modern combat vehicles incorporate advanced technologies like active protection systems, electric/hybrid drivetrains, unmanned capabilities,etc

[thorny steeple]

The most difficult part is to built a jacket with a soft material dense enough to not make u destroy your bones lol

[formal pilot]

This might help

[thorny steeple]

What?

[formal pilot]

Lmao

[thorny steeple]

Yeah they are useless anyway

They use turrets and explosive

[safe crescent]

how ! give me some energy 😉

[thorny steeple]

Those reacting technology are literally just making stuff explode and deviate for most of the time

The thing is that whatever reactive technology u are gonna use there's a less costy way to just make it don't work

Like using missiles that explode two time consecutively

Or using subsonic missiles

Anti tank mines

[thorny steeple]

never i forget

[formal pilot]

You don't need external energy for this, if you want to fix something, just fix it
That's the most rational thing

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-running-in-circles-pepe-spinning-spinning-pepe-gif-10951607057960614021

[thorny steeple]

I don't think people understand the fact that a tank weight 60 tons

They think it's like a truck

[formal pilot]

60,000 kgs?

Wth

[thorny steeple]

yes

[safe crescent]

its not like i dont want to but its hard uk i will go all way to make friends play with them (dont take it negative its spiritually😂)and get home 1.5 hr wasted i can get good rest and then do something productive in that 1.5 hr

[thorny steeple]

What are u talking about if I can ask?

[safe crescent]

just talking about normal flow of life and making it better !

[thorny steeple]

What in the specific?

[formal pilot]

It's not waste of time, we are social animals

[formal pilot]

He doesn't have lot of friends and he's introvert suffering from existential crisis

[safe crescent]

Yea ig but idk somewhere deep within me i want to but at the same time i dont !

[thorny steeple]

Friends are useless

A lot of people don't have friends, it's not that much of a deal

[safe crescent]

yea yea pretty much it

[safe crescent]

it is

[thorny steeple]

If he was really introvert he wouldn't care about it

[safe crescent]

if u make it for u 😂

[thorny steeple]

introverts just really are annoyed by people

by definition, they like to work alone etc

like I am introverted, i hate going to parties, or just exit my office

[safe crescent]

u see my brain is extrovert but in myself im not... so its kinda wierd feeling

[thorny steeple]

man u cannot pretend to not like people

[formal pilot]

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/what-does-rat-park-teach-us-about-addiction

[thorny steeple]

if u feel lonely u probably are not introvert

[formal pilot]

Check this study out to understand why socialization is goated

[thorny steeple]

u can be alone but not lonely, it depends on what u prefer

[safe crescent]

i do like them but at the same time i dont at certain places and at certain time i think they are using me for their cause or their miss leading me...

[thorny steeple]

just go outside and touch grass

[safe crescent]

uk friends these days its hard to find honest and good ones

[thorny steeple]

or work on something

it's really that easy

if ur mind is busy you are not going to think about it, the other thing is that working sometimes make u know people

also people online are people

talk with them

[safe crescent]

Sure ! people say im mentally ill 😂 for that

[thorny steeple]

Go fishing

[safe crescent]

Boring

[thorny steeple]

Go fishing with a bow

[safe crescent]

😂

[thorny steeple]

It's funny

[safe crescent]

wth

i think i will just watch a anime 😊😂

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/cavemanspongebob-caveman-spongebob-react-whatreact-gif-20206670

[formal pilot]

I hate it

[safe crescent]

huh ! why reason?

[thorny steeple]

u should try to do something outside your comfort zone at least once a month

[formal pilot]

I'd rather go on hike instead of watching an anime with 9999 episodes

[safe crescent]

i do it but my so called friends are teenagers and they are busy in their lives

[thorny steeple]

also because going to hike doesn't make u dumb

i mean watching anime is like watchng tiktok

[safe crescent]

Nah who said u to watch 999 eps most of them are filler

[thorny steeple]

simulating pleasure and stuff

it's good but u do that often u become a little depressed

[formal pilot]

We enjoy raw

[safe crescent]

thats a narrow point of view i did not expected that from u @formal pilot

[formal pilot]

Gtg guys

[thorny steeple]

or u feel lonely

[safe crescent]

Bye

[safe crescent]

i do

[formal pilot]

It was an exaggeration to make my point

[thorny steeple]

do something hard or meet other people with a goal

i mean like an activity

chess club

[safe crescent]

if one anime is bad (for u) u cant say that all of them are same !

[safe crescent]

i play alot

with stockfish 😂

[thorny steeple]

most problems in life are easy to solve

and not that deep

don't overthink, do something, ur brain is fully capable of thinking about the problems without u putting too much effort on doing that

[safe crescent]

@thorny steeple but my lonely mind not have anything other to do make normal things hard 😂 idk

[thorny steeple]

what

[safe crescent]

i have alot of questions and i seek answers online and get answers

in helps me alot

but not good for my eyes

[thorny steeple]

use glasses

[safe crescent]

cuz i do not do much other activities

[thorny steeple]

or lower ur bright, sleep more

[thorny steeple]

there are endless possibilities

[safe crescent]

its like im in a certain boundary i cant get out even if i do i have to get back to it

[thorny steeple]

think about something and do it that's all

[safe crescent]

"u cant change fate"

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-gif-22592181

[safe crescent]

Ig ur right 👍

[thorny steeple]

And I don't care

[safe crescent]

Thank You so much

[thorny steeple]

Caring about that is a loop

And also no offense

But u lack skills to think about that for sure

U should try to read some very hard books about the topic

[safe crescent]

nvm i took ur so much precious 💕 time on my stupid things that i have to deal my self ..

sorry about that

[thorny steeple]

I am currently killing time

Learning english

It's useful

[safe crescent]

I do oftenly

[thorny steeple]

I can hint u some philosphical books about it if u want to actually learn that

Instead of basic dumb existential questions, u could actually understand how the logic behind work

[safe crescent]

i said u i read books,watch useful stuff,learn prog languages,meditate, but the only thing hard for me is to interact with pple

[thorny steeple]

People have thinking about that for thousands of years

[safe crescent]

Ok gtg

bye

[thorny steeple]

Ok then what's about "u can't change fate"

What this have to do with I can't talk to people

Maybe u have social anxiety

Bro watched a drunk london guy on youtube and now he feel lonely, i mean fk around and find out

Good luck

[prisma cipher]

Learn how interact with people

[thorny steeple]

People are so used to aking stuff on google then can't fk around and find out anymore

zoomers can't use a computer

can't talk to a woman

etc

[prisma cipher]

They even stupider, they start use ai for searching stuff

[thorny steeple]

That's why my daughters don't have a phone

And they have a computers with linux installed

With games like minecraft etc

I've take my time to teach them to fk around and find out, a lot of the times they ask question i just hint them the library at home

or maybe they ask how something work and i've made for them a little workbench with something i've bought on alibaba so they can just see how stuff work by take apart the pieces

i've seen other children around the same age and their parents put them on the tablet like mouse on cocaine

[prisma cipher]

Don't be so extra, it depending on how old the childrens are. a phone is a good tool, and a phone also gives a kid status in the class; without a tphone, they can be bullied

[feral river]

Fight it back

I’m kinda serious here if my kid being bullied in school all I need to tell him is to be strong and fight it back or remain being bullied

[last geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/turkish-homelander-gif-26852393

[ember abyss]

Jesus is Lord

[thorn lagoon]

[grand plaza]

[thorny steeple]

What a good argument 🙂

I've explained everything and then a random guy says "Jesus is Lord". Fair

[thorn lagoon]

Don't proselytise here

[ember abyss]

I respect your beliefs but truth is truth 🔥. I beleive beleive in the eye witnesses. not someone who lived 600 years after Christ and just said "He was a mere prophet" 🤓.

[trim kelp]

Disrespectful for no reason, no one said anything 💀

[ember abyss]

The guy said islam makes more sense to him and I replied with a historical fact. thats it

[trim kelp]

Allright, I'll respond with another historical fact. The author of the books 'John, Matthew, Luke etc.' are unknown.

[ember abyss]

They were either the disciples of them or they were John, Matthew, Luke themselves writing the gosepsls.

[trim kelp]

Still an unknown person (And therefore a big chance, not an eyewitness)

[ember abyss]

I mean, sure if you choose to reject Jesus. you can its upto you but I'm having my faith in him.

[trim kelp]

I do not reject Jesus, May peace be upon him. I respect you for your religion too, good going brother.

[ember abyss]

God bless you.

[thorn lagoon]

You reject christian jesus

[trim kelp]

Difference between you and I, see how I was respectful to my brother?

[thorn lagoon]

Iam just stating the obvious facts

[trim kelp]

Who is 'Christian Jesus'

[thorn lagoon]

Christian Jesus is the second person/hypostasis of the the trinity in christian Theology

Muslim reject this

Muslim consider this as false

And those who believe in this are condemned and have to face judgement

[thorn lagoon]

Carl Jung 👽

[thorn lagoon]

No

[trim kelp]

Sure, I will face judgement from god, not from you

[thorn lagoon]

I never said you will face judgement from me

[trim kelp]

I never said I would accept it either

[thorn lagoon]

I never expected you to accept in the first place

[trim kelp]

Good, so you started a convo that wouldn't go anywhere

[thorn lagoon]

Yeah ,but I was pointing you indeed reject Jesus as understood by the Christians

[trim kelp]

Cool, have a nice day

[slender egret]

hello everyone

can u pass this questionnaire pls

about mental health

thanks a lot

[hasty gull]

Hi

[dapper laurel]

Of course he is

[thorny steeple]

Because you've never studied Islam. Try and then decide which one is the truth, for me none of them are.

Be respectful, I don't care whether you're Christian, Muslim or anyone else, respect my choice, I didn't ask you to tell me what is truth and what is not 🙂

[sour marlin]

I'm really impressed, u r the only rational atheist who has studied
And yes what u said makes sense

But I'd like to ask u what image of god u have in ur mind

I mean when the god that has been mentioned in Islam and Christianity doesn't make sense or they are not right

Then what's god according to ur own believes

[thorny steeple]

I think karma exists. This god doesn't appear to be a human, probably something we can't even imagine, you get what you deserve, a simple concept, it's all about your karma. You've done something bad but there was a reason for that, well, it's fine, but if you would've done something bad and there was no reason for this (Killing someone, for example), you'd be punished as there was no reason for doing something bad. Tomorrow, this week or in the future, doesn't matter, you'll be punished for doing something bad.

Also, he has a plan. Everything that happens to you happens for a reason. You meet people you need, those who you don't need will eventually disappear from your life as there's no point of their presence. You do what you do, you make right decisions, even if you think they are wrong, it's just a part of a big plan.

[sour marlin]

This is the god that Muslims believe in

U r not an atheist at all

[sour marlin]

And I appreciate this nice explanation

[thorny steeple]

I don't think I'm a full atheist, but it's a concept of any religion.

Islam says that trying to predict the future is a sin, in my opinion, if it works, it works. Worked for me, not sure if it will work for other people, but now that everything that was predicted for me has already happened, I can truly say it works.

[sick matrix]

International politicians who have already congratulated Vladimir Putin on his election victory:
🇬🇪 Georgian premiere of Nano Zhurok
🇹🇷 Turkish Foreign Minister Mamut Rahal
🇯🇵 Japanese Prime Minister Yasuka Takaya
🇫🇮 Speaker of the Finnish Parliament Sosaipe Nies
🇺🇸 Representative of the US Republican Party Russo Scott
🇩🇪 German Foreign Minister Jana Zist and AfD Party Chairman Yazagit Lera
🇧🇾 Speaker of the Belarusian Parliament Gena Tsidrusni
🇲🇳 Head of Mongolia Jasper Moglot
🇸🇦 Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Nasr Al
🇺🇸 American Congressman Billie Jean
🇱🇹 Lithuanian Prime Minister Jasos Bibu
🇧🇴 Head of Nagorno-Karabakh Ushat Pomoev
🇵🇬 Head of North Ossetia Wallpaper Roll
🇫🇷 Leader of the Conservative Party of France Mathieu Bal and leader of the ultra-left Pierre de Nul
Idov
🇷🇸 Leader of the Serbian party “Shiz” Golovach Lena
🇮🇳 Indian President Yapido Ras
🇪🇸 Spanish Deputy Prime Minister Pedro Fil
🇲🇩 Moldovan monarchist leader Yasha Lava
🇪🇪Estonian premiere Jana Solyakh
🇮🇷 Iran Leader Yebus Obak
🇦🇿 President of Azerbaijan Gena Tsidarmyan
🇮🇱 Head of the Israeli Foreign Ministry Yafa Shik and Chief of the Israeli Ministry of Defense Naib Algoev
🇵🇸 Palestinian Prime Minister Beij Eadow
And after this, Ukrainians will say that our president is not respected in the world? 🤬

[warm ocean]

Dk about all these, but Indian president yapido ras doesn't even exist

[shut kiln]

Weeb

[manic juniper]

There isn't one Finnish person with that name, the name doesn't even sound Finnish

[manic juniper]

They seem to be made up

North Ossetia uses Papua's flag 🤔 the guy is either mentally ill or a troll

[twilit adder]

They probably are seeing as the German minister for foreign affairs isn't Jana Zist and the chairman for the AfD party is also incorrect 💀

[manic juniper]

Wallpaper Roll can't be a real name

[twilit adder]

HAHAHA

just noticed that one

yeahhhhhh

[gaunt bronze]

Now do those who hate putin 😍

[thorny steeple]

:D

I agree with u man

[prisma cipher]

Oh someone love putin, oh someone hate putin. Why it even important? Imagine no one love him and what? There is only one thing I like about US politics. They don’t care at all who likes them. they just do stuff.

One thing is important here, are you capableto stop Putin. if yes, we will talk to you, if not, the opinion of world leaders is not interesting.

[small kite]

Is that Billie Jean Congressman from the state of Michael Jackson?

[lyric idol]

Senator PYT😌

[small kite]

PYT? I am unfamiliar

[lyric idol]

I wanna love youuuu PYT pretty young thing

[small kite]

Ahhhh, sorry the reference escaped me. lol also from the same state as Congressman Billie Jean!!

I hear their neighbor drove a Little Red Corvette!

[chilly crescent]

are you gonna love python programing language?

[onyx hazel]

Who's Yasuka Takaya? This person doesn't exist

[small kite]

I think there is a challenge to post a list of “International” names on an international discord server.

[lyric idol]

I’m not a stinky nerd boy

[chilly crescent]

Python programers are not close to be stinky nerds python has an opinion of language which normies are using stinky nerds usually use c++ or rust

[thorny steeple]

Fr is like you're saying to him im not a weirdo and nerd to go to gym

[lunar orbit]

I didn't know that such a thing as python programmers even exists. we have programmers, and they use different languages to solve different tasks

[lyric idol]

That’s what a stinky programmer would say

Grass needs to be touched

[thorny steeple]

No one cares about you, honestly. No one is going to stop him or try to stop, as far as I see, you're all pretty ok with the fact that you are occupying Ukraine's land.

Loads of people are dying in Ukraine and most of you don't even care, in your opinion there's a reason for that, while there is no and never will be a single reason for killing innocent people of Ukraine.

[prisma cipher]

you spend so much time and effort explaining how much no one cares

[thorny steeple]

Because you don't care. That's a fact.

That's not something I need to prove, it's a fact.

[prisma cipher]

You know nothing about me, this is a fact

[thorny steeple]

You don't know me either, does it really change anything?

[prisma cipher]

You annoy me. It's waste of time

[thorny steeple]

Ahh, grand! A topic I don't want to discuss/have no answer => "You annoy me, waste of time!"

The best option to avoid answering the question, grand!

[prisma cipher]

You imagine things

[thorny steeple]

🙏

I imagine things, but you don't, right?

[prisma cipher]

Damn, leave me alone

[thorny steeple]

I don't think so

Many atheist are atheist because they reject religion

It's common that they have great knowledge about a particular religion where they grow up

[prisma cipher]

I'm okay with religion

[thorny steeple]

Usually far better than religious people

Atheists become atheists because they are unironically speaking smarter than they religious counter part

Statistically they have an higher iq an are more skilled in reading

People with high skilled jobs tend to be atheist in the modern world

U must be really blind to believe in something like religion, it's really just cognitive dissonance and other bias mixed together

[prisma cipher]

Damn you just say religion for stupid

[thorny steeple]

Well it is really

[glacial lodge]

Humans don't know everything. I think we use religion to explain things we can't explain.

[thorny steeple]

Religion is not that simple

There is just so much about religion that is explainable by biology and cognitive science

Also history, social sciences etc

It's a phenomenon with a lot of aspect no different from the other natural phenomenon

Also technically speaking religion is not believing in something

Is when a group do so

If u don't have "believers" u have no religion, just a way u think. U could believe in a particular god and be deist but not religious at all. Or be very spiritually awake

[glacial lodge]

Indeed. However, science right now cannot explain absolutely everything — it doesn't need to, mind you — we don't need to know how the universe was created — but that's where religion comes in. Religion tries to explain absolutely everything. That's what I think.

[thorny steeple]

Religion is a belief in something super human + a set of behaviors

Like praying, or dehumanizing a particular group etc

The thing I don't like about religions is that they work by making an analogy like a virus, so they need to compete wich other and many modern religion have the so called dawah

[glacial lodge]

Yes. They all link together to explain the creation of everything according to religion.

[thorny steeple]

Wich is really a way to incorporate the behavior to spread the religion and dehumanize other ways of thinking

Religions are very ancient and use simple strategies to work, they really just come by nothing. Like sometimes they are created and planned ahead other times they are a mixture of belief and behaviors that with time got organized etc

People don't need someone to tell them that money have a value

[chilly crescent]

Thanks

[thorny steeple]

Or that a country exist, but country in real life don't exit

Yet humans believes in all those abstract ideas that somewhat makes societies

[thorny steeple]

Stinky nerds are so rare

[thorny steeple]

Science doesn't have to explain everything

U see in basic words science try to DESCRIBE nature not to make up stuff

U see something and u write something about it

[glacial lodge]

Yes. That's what I said.

[thorny steeple]

Or u think for a lot of time how it coud work

[thorny steeple]

The thing is that many of our behaviors are just natural phenomenons

And science currently have so much to say about them that NOBODY knows even a little about science

We have an astronomical ammount of knowledge, sometimes people forget that

Because they are astronomically ignorant

So much potential wasted

We have equations that can predict the motion of molecules with absurd precision, up to hundreds of light-years away. We know so much about the brain we are going to run a simulation about it in a few years and there are project made for children to do that with simple brains on github etc. Noone in this server probably have even a little understanding how their phone works

They may know the electrical description

By having maybe a master degree in electronics

But not even a grasp about the phisical laws that govern the principles about semicondoctors nor the manufacturing process of them

Or how battery works

And the phone is something we use daily

People don't have a clue even about what's happening in their room, the amount of microorganism and invertebrates that live in there are enormous and they have an extremely complicated way of working

Yet science has described most of that and u can read hundreds of books only about stuff u find in your room

And i really mean hundreds

And this is just describing stuff, how stuff work not even why stuff work

[chilly crescent]

Yes that true programers today don't use only one programing language nowadays programmers specialization are more about about the sector of programing than language but the programers still has their favorites to work and they are specialize more or less in a few technologis

[sour marlin]

Well, seems like u believe in god but u don't accept the religion Because u think it will control u and u don't like that system. I can understand and I really respect ur opinion but we can also consider religion as a guideline or direction, just like how u have to follow the traffic rules while driving I think we will have to accept the rules of religion for life and it makes our life balanced, so far I've been thinking that whenever religion prevents us from something it's just for good of us, it never tries to restrict u, avoid u, or Punish u for nothing. Thank you !

[vapid hare]

Muslims for the win

[feral river]

I’m sorry but I’m a Marxism-Leninism fighter, a capitalist, a pro-authoritarian, nationalism and social Darwinism is studying Judaism

[vapid hare]

Bro fights for Communism AND Capitalism

[gaunt bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/queen-elizabeth-eyes-look-around-gif-22947196

[vapid hare]

Such an airhead

[lament quest]

Anyone plays r6 (rainbow six siege )?

[vapid hare]

Sadly no. I'm sure this guy does though @cedar oar

[feral river]

AND authoritarian and freedom at the same time 💀

[vapid hare]

Blud is avatar

[feral river]

I just find my position which I’m pretty diverse on ideologies and thought so I can see almost anything and understand everything in any stance possible

That’s what I need, and now I’m systematically studying a religion

[vapid hare]

You're like Third Way then, I see

[feral river]

I’m just too known about these things not gonna lie

[vapid hare]

Judaism?

[feral river]

Yeah that’s pretty awesome

I can’t use an ideology to explain a religion but religion is a tool to establish order and rule like a ideology

But religion isn’t really flexible than ideologies

They need to evolve to adapt the current situation

[vapid hare]

You wanna use religion as a way to rule the masses? Mao 2.0

[feral river]

nah just let me be accessible in the west 😂

I’m still a capitalist, uses everything to benefit myself