🧠｜serious-chat

[feral river]

well maybe a superpower will use space weapon to against a small nation

and as we know USA, Russia already have their space forces

China is behind so we are urging Chinese government would develop its own weapons asap.

[thorny steeple]

the superpowers will undoubtedly be the main players but every other country small or big will get dragged into it in some way

[feral river]

yes.

[thorny steeple]

wait for real?

[feral river]

yes for real.

[thorny steeple]

like actual military force?

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Space_Force

[thorny steeple]

or do you mean non-military satellites

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Space_Forces

[thorny steeple]

not really intended for warfare

amazing

[feral river]

they are developing it

we are behind!

China doesn't have its space forces

they are currently developing i guess..

[whole beacon]

Yo now that i think of it , it helps a lot lol
Thanks for the tip buddy

[muted juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-dead-dead-chat-dead-group-chat-group-dead-gif-25389150

[green bobcat]

Really?😶

Life without emotions would be as calm as death, like a world without weather

I think having emotions is natural and healthful

But I always always suggest to everyone that; never make any decisions based on emotions. It is destructive.

[formal pilot]

Yeah dude it's pretty F up

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-21978827

[green bobcat]

Broken heart 💔? 🙂

[pseudo steppe]

Hello

[green bobcat]

Hey

[formal pilot]

Na dude it's deeper than that, leave it, I'm here to act silly and spread misinformation

[feral river]

do you know why people used to use emotions to react ?

[green bobcat]

If you are comfortable, please share with us!

[formal pilot]

N na I'm good

[formal pilot]

Enlighten me sir

[green bobcat]

Then nice 😊

[formal pilot]

[feral river]

the usage of emotion is complex, I can't explain how whole emotion works here but it was widely used in ancient days when we need to face different environments and it will trigger different reactions

[formal pilot]

Like fear for survival

And happiness to create bonds

[feral river]

such as you will be scared if a people being eaten by a tiger or something

or fight or flight, freeze etc.

anyways it's too complex

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion

I recommend read this.

[formal pilot]

I'll for sure

[green bobcat]

What's real happiness? Does is really exist?

[formal pilot]

I can explain happiness in chemical terms

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happiness

[formal pilot]

I'm not well educated in philosophical terms

[green bobcat]

Emotions help us figure out what's going on, decide what to do, and talk to others. They show what we like or need and guide how we act in different situations.

[feral river]

well by chemical it can be explained

[green bobcat]

What we have got to know about happiness [ in moral science books] all are scams.

[formal pilot]

Yeah dude emotions gave us an edge against Neanderthal

[formal pilot]

I've never read any moral science books, i dunno

[feral river]

well... in my opinion moral is used for maintain a stable society

to regulate your action by people's mind

and if we leave this society will be more instable, for me I will just follow this when I have to or I need to or I can get benefit from this.

[green bobcat]

Sometimes we feel happy after getting married, sometimes getting divorced with the same

[feral river]

I feel happy when I came 😂

that's so damn happy

[green bobcat]

Everything is relative. Everything is related to an object, to a person, to something. There's hard to find absolute happiness.

[manic juniper]

We didn't evolve to find happiness on itself

[formal pilot]

Happiness is not a state

[green bobcat]

If we enquire deeply, there is absolute happiness.

[feral river]

there is absolute happiness during sex 😂

[manic juniper]

The pursuit of happiness itself is one of the main driving forces behind natural selection

[feral river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine

this is happiness

[green bobcat]

That's also temporary.

[feral river]

the more this you got the more happiness you got

[green bobcat]

I am talking about absolute, permanent happiness

[feral river]

aint possible

[formal pilot]

What if you got erectile dysfunction (asking for friend)

[feral river]

💀

I will never got

NEVER

[thorny steeple]

this is motivation

[manic juniper]

It's possible, it's just dysfunctional

[thorny steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-gif-25306498

[feral river]

awesome

[formal pilot]

Yeah it's pretty complicated, the road to happiness is in itself is happiness

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-perms-discord-gif-discord-permissions-no-perms-gif-19575106

[manic juniper]

It's your brain tricking and forcing you into doing stuff that makes you happier

[formal pilot]

It's all about that dopamine spike

[green bobcat]

It's possible

[manic juniper]

It's possible lol

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_syndrome

[formal pilot]

This syndrome is kinda up ngl

[manic juniper]

It's possible that dogs have it too, and that's why they're like that

[formal pilot]

Dog depression is a real thing

[formal pilot]

Pain and suffering are always inevitable for a large intelligence and a deep heart. The really great men must, I think, have great sadness on earth. ~dostovsky

[green bobcat]

Can you see a difference between relative happiness and absolute happiness? Relative means in relation to a particular person or object
or to the absence of a person or an object. Like
someone gets happy after marrying someone and then later gets happy after a divorce. Someone's happiness is in the presence of a person, and someone's is in the absence of someone. Someone's in the presence of a situation, and someone's in the absence of a situation, like you got a job first and now you are trying to leave. So, everything is relative; it's connected, or it's connected to your thoughts, feelings, emotions, or sensations. One happiness is relative, connected to something or someone, and the other is absolute, which is not connected to anything or anyone.

[formal pilot]

There's nothing like absolute happiness for avg human

[feral river]

I think that's just status.

maybe I'm wrong

but I can consider this as a type of status.

[formal pilot]

Wait I thik I got it, what's absolute happiness

[green bobcat]

The happiness you get through an object or person has many flaws. Because you depend on that, and then you get addicted to that object or person, and that object or person controls you. Neither can you be with them nor can you leave. So, all these ways of happiness are scams. These ways can never give us true happiness. So, what is absolute happiness?

[formal pilot]

Pro religious people who are just happy to be alive

[green bobcat]

There's just one way!!!

I wish we could have a call

To survive in the world, we have to do what we can do to make our life comfortable in terms of finance, relationship, and health.

I can just say; depending on those things if we expect we can get absolute happiness, then not possible!

Let me ask u a question; There are 24 hours in a day. When do you get so happy in 24 hours?

[thorny steeple]

thats not happiness, thats just limerance lol

[green bobcat]

True

[formal pilot]

Dude i don't feel emotions

Well it's impossible to get absolute happiness, after some times our brain will become numb to that amount of dopamine

IMO*

[formal pilot]

Iran is about to build nuclear weapons

The end is near

[static gate]

True

[covert raptor]

Someone said unlimited sex without food and water fasting

Will give unlimited absolute happiness

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/anti-horni-spray-gif-24744701

[covert raptor]

For Ramadan

[covert raptor]

Will you be out valentine bro

*our

[static gate]

What ?

[cerulean ore]

I think it's completely rational action on their behalf

[formal pilot]

Yeah it is, but volatility rate in middle eastern politics is on another level

It's quite concerning when they gonna use it

[jolly agate]

You said some inspiring words, I like the way you put those words in structure, it is admirable.

[cerulean ore]

You're right, it is a major concern

But I was actually shaping my viewpoint based on the international community's response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine

It has been disappointing, to say the least

countries like Iran are likely to view nuclear weapons as a necessary means of self-preservation.

[formal pilot]

Fair enough

[silver vault]

They've supported terrorist groups, violated human rights, and destabilized entire regions

The pursuit of nuclear weapons is just one more example of their reckless disregard

[cerulean ore]

I know

[formal pilot]

Didn't every major country violated human rights

[cerulean ore]

It isn't merely reckless

[cerulean ore]

Truly, like i know they're a brutish and cold-hearted regimes but building nuclear forces just stems from facing threats within and beyond its region. The U.S., with a history of interference, has backed anti-government forces.

[silver vault]

You're being an apologist

[cerulean ore]

I'm not being an apologist, I'm simply stating the facts.

it's true that the pursuit of nuclear weapons carries significant risks, it's also important to recognize the context in which Iran is operating

[formal pilot]

+1

[cerulean ore]

Anyway

https://open.spotify.com/artist/5SHgclK1ZpTdfdAmXW7J6s?si=F9Bz7n7dQFeQwnRfp38iBg

Album recc of the day

[manic juniper]

I hope we get nuclear weapons

[formal pilot]

Imao Finland is broke

[manic juniper]

Why

[formal pilot]

Don't have any nuclear weapons

[manic juniper]

We could and we should

But no one cares in the entire country except me

[formal pilot]

I'm not aware of the European politics

Any recc to get educated?

[manic juniper]

I'd recommend Yle but that would count as self advertising and it's mostly about Finland

[formal pilot]

tell me something terrible about your country

all the talk of the great healthcare, school system and saunas is starting to get me extremely jealous. Tell me something terrible about Finland

[manic juniper]

We had labour camps for Soviet prisoners that had death rates comparable to those of their gulags

We had a civil war with countless war crimes conducted by both sides, although the Whites arguably did worse

[unique widget]

We can't afford war as a nation

With the economy of the nation where I reside, it's a no

[formal pilot]

Na it's not that good

If Finland was doing some mad genocide

Only then i could sleep peacefully

(my eng sucks, please correct my grammatical mistakes)

[manic juniper]

Foreigners used to be targeted by soldiers because they were thought to be Bolsheviks and so were shot on sight or at the first notice of different accent

For all we did, I don't think there ever was a genocide here coming from us. Other Nordic countries did though (except Iceland)

[thorny steeple]

usa never has violated human rights. I like their freedom (irony)

[steel wave]

Bro thinks america is democratic 💀

[obtuse perch]

ewwwww

serious chat

[onyx hazel]

Oui

[obtuse perch]

non

[static gate]

Comment ça va

[onyx hazel]

très bien

[static gate]

Tu parles français très bien ?

[jolly agate]

Hi

[onyx hazel]

Non

[thorny steeple]

Hello

Any debates today?

[jolly agate]

Why do we wait for someone to began something why can’t you be the beginning of something

[thorny steeple]

From a common consensus, I don't have a controversial opinion 😂

[jolly agate]

just say we hate lgbtq

[thorny steeple]

💀 i mean, how can i hate myself

[jolly agate]

Dont need to, that was an example.

[thorny steeple]

I drink coffee to go to bed

[jolly agate]

Play with feeling, chaos will errupt

that’s why breakup heart’s, who had them.

[formal pilot]

Nearly everyone dude

[green bobcat]

What if I say it's possible

[jolly agate]

Go ahead

[green bobcat]

Because we are afraid of doing something on our own. We just wish to have someone who can help, support, heal, etc. The moment we become dependent on someone, we start expecting something. Those expectations will lead us to be less productive, less curious about doing or taking initiative. This is reality. However, someone has created an illusionary reality inside our brains that makes us crave for someone. Somehow we are not aware of reality

[jolly agate]

I thought you were replying to him

Ahh,

[green bobcat]

I wish we could talk over call

[green bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/alvin-and-the-chipmunks-alvin-whoops-my-bad-oops-gif-15512287650458333097

[jolly agate]

Would you mind me pointing out something

[green bobcat]

Yes please! Always welcome to do.

I appreciate if you point out something

[jolly agate]

Someone to lean on doesn't always make us less productive. In fact, it can often give us the confidence to take more initiative. The idea of an illusionary reality can ignore the real help and comfort we get from connecting with others.

[green bobcat]

It's true. But as I got to know through my life experiences; if someone is with me I feel kinda relaxed calm and think that if I do not they will do it.

[jolly agate]

They will do what?

[jolly agate]

It’s natural blud, thinking that there is always someone to support you when needed is reassuring.

[green bobcat]

In a simple term "SUPPORT" . But we forget that supports will not be for permanent. After all we have to do the things alone.

I hate the term "dependency" it is more addictive than alcohol

[jolly agate]

But as long as we have it, it can provide us with something to look up to, something to aim for, it can provide us with the confidence, hope, happiness, reality check, it can help us in a way that will be forever be priceless

[jolly agate]

it’s not necessarily bad. I have mentioned it before

[thorny steeple]

it's a human need, support

an emotional need

there's nothing wrong with depending on people?

[jolly agate]

Yeah, but we must have a balance and maintain independence with dependence to avoid over-reliance or disappointing others.

[thorny steeple]

Inter-dependence is healthy

Balance is key

But it depends from people to people

[green bobcat]

It does work, but having such support is not easy. For example, parental support is absolute. If it's not there, we will somehow lag. Depending on others can give us just satisfaction, pleasure nothing more I think

We all want to be famous people, and the moment we want to be something we are no longer free. Recently I came out of this illusion. We should never try to be like someone. Having an ideal is destructive.

[green bobcat]

There's nothing wrong till then your expectations are being fulfilled. The moment you feel you are not getting what you wished for, you'll become frightened and unhappy, which might be a cause of a bit of depression. So, if something goes as we expect, we are happy, and we appreciate the person on whom we depend. However, the reality will be known when looking at the other side.

[thorny steeple]

Or, You could just convey it to them directly

[green bobcat]

What if they keep doing?

[thorny steeple]

Keep doing what?

[green bobcat]

The action we don't like

Dependency on someone is also relative and conditional. Can you see it?

[thorny steeple]

If you convey & they are unwilling to communicate with you then they're probably not worth the effort tbh There's many people so

Dependency is conditional but you can always ask what you need

[green bobcat]

We can but they'll be with you till then they are getting benefited. It's bitter, but reality

[thorny steeple]

It's a relationship, both parties must feel fulfilled, if you feel your ends don't meet then you have to ask or convey. If that dont work, you leave

[green bobcat]

In 99.9999% cases we can't get

[thorny steeple]

What are we talking about?

[green bobcat]

In relationship it does make sense

[thorny steeple]

Then, in what context?

[green bobcat]

About corrupt people, whom we consider friends or relatives or others

[thorny steeple]

I mean friendships can be wholesome too? and they work like relationships, They Start-End

[green bobcat]

Even some so called Gurus

[green bobcat]

It does work.

[thorny steeple]

NO!

<@&852814479569059840>s

[thorny steeple]

What was it?

[jolly agate]

Flaws

[jolly agate]

?

[formal pilot]

Dude you really need to make some good friends

Socialization is the greatest factor for our existence

Arguably Neanderthals were smarter than us

But they went extinct because they were less capable of forming larger social networks

It's in our system to depend on others

[rose eagle]

jo

[lime monolith]

seeking for a asian friend!!!

[green bobcat]

I have a few

[warm quartz]

I'm from Asia

[tacit skiff]

That's a good point.

[green bobcat]

Social network is important in order to fulfill a particular purpose

Without any specific purpose, no one comes in the social

[formal pilot]

We don't grow vegetables, we don't harvest rice
We buy it from someone else, it's like symbiotic relation

Your point was if you don't depend on someone you'll reach absolute happiness

It's impossible for a healthy mind to reach absolute happiness

[green bobcat]

Nope! That won't lead us towards happiness. I meant to say, if by these ways we expect to be happy, then it's not possible. We have to depend on others to live in the world. (A child has to depend on his mom).

[green bobcat]

Always welcome!

[thorny steeple]

A child needs an elder because they are Still incapable of handling emotions & expressing their needs properly, that is distinct from an adult who is able to express their will freely or at least express what they think or feel

[rose eagle]

it's me

[thorny steeple]

I think what you're trying to say is people only fit in these Social constructs because their needs are being satisfied. They are conditional , they are happy for the said fulfilled need.

But they are willing to negotiate .That is: It depends on you too.

[green bobcat]

True!

[narrow fossil]

What is serious in serious chat rn?

Do you want somebody to re-send the link so they don't have to leave discord to view it?

[feral river]

Everyone have and should have their own way to achieve happiness.

they have that freedom to do that.

but sometimes, people's happiness may conflict with other people

[rose eagle]

Hmm yes

[main bison]

guys

let's have serious talk

[formal pilot]

I'm ready

What's the topic?

[main bison]

communism

[formal pilot]

There's a quote "if you're not communist before 20, you probably don't have Heart, if you're still communist after 30 then you don't have brain"

[main bison]

Give me a sec to think about

[feral river]

oh really I'm becoming the CCP member so I have no heart XD

🤣

[formal pilot]

Dude i just entered my 20s, politically I'm 30

[feral river]

well I would say communism is complex and it has too many type of communism in this field.

you can say public ownership is communism, you can say CCP is communism.

[dire kite]

https://tenor.com/view/of-to-gulag-gif-19230867

[feral river]

or, do you really know what is communism ?

[main bison]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-cat-sovicat-soviet-ussr-cat-gif-21826197

[feral river]

don't say it's bad before you know it it's important.

[main bison]

i prefer fashisim

and democrosy

with monrachy

[feral river]

I have no idea about worshipping communist leader is communism because that's clearly not.

that's cult personality.

even they just using their communist theory to launch revolution against their regime and some of them even not doing something communist.

because when it comes to authority, the way has changed, it's not important to be commie but it's important to use commie theory and stay in power.

[grave kestrel]

Nah, I don't think so

[formal pilot]

I have nothing to back this up but I feel that it works great on a small scale but it doesn't scale up well. After you get past a few hundred people you start to drift away from the happy go lucky goodness that communism advertises and approach a more negative totalitarian regime.

[feral river]

class fighting, it's too normal if a middle class person living good in a capitalism society would deny communism because communism will damage their interest.

all make sense.

[formal pilot]

Fair enough

[feral river]

even I would support anti-communism trend in my society because no benefit to me and it's toooo normal

I mean anti-communism trend is anti-Maoism, those pure Maoism.

[formal pilot]

How many of you lived under communist government??

[feral river]

well 1.4 bil

actually we are not under communism rule right now

our government just say they are communist but they are NOT doing something communist

we are under capitalism-socialism rule

and it worked, our economy is properous and society is stable

I had enough about something like massive survelliance, suppressing minorities, security checks, privacy violations, eat whatever you want etc.

that's nothing wrong in our opinion

[formal pilot]

Mass surveillance is really really bad dude

[feral river]

yes, it lowered the crime rate, they even use those street cameras found my lost wallet and a police call me to go back to police station to claim your wallet.

I would say even american gov is making survelliance on their own citizen

and we don't even allow private company to make survelliance on public and violates other's privacy

and we can even claim free camera from government in some places so you can secure your house (expired)

[formal pilot]

I've never thought about it like that

[feral river]

idk. but it make sense if you feel bad when someone is looking at you everywhere.

even they don't care you.

[formal pilot]

Well there're some countries with low crime rates, they don't do mass surveillance

[silver vault]

But you do have iphone?

[thorny steeple]

Android users unite

[dire kite]

https://tenor.com/view/iphone-apple-gadgets-gif-26049444

[feral river]

well well well

[dire kite]

I'm in

[feral river]

I must show my iPhone 15 if you say this

[thorny steeple]

Ew

[silver vault]

Dude check your e-mails

[thorny steeple]

800 discord messages

[feral river]

I don't because too many ads

[silver vault]

Damn

[thorny steeple]

💀💀💀💀

[formal pilot]

Do a drop test from 24ft

[feral river]

I don't wanna see it and it's not important

[dire kite]

*announcements

[thorny steeple]

You can disable it, but then again shes an iphone user

[dire kite]

Ye I already disabled it

[thorny steeple]

Pay 200$ to 🦅disable notifications

[dire kite]

Apple laughing in the corner with money

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-hawking-gif-11361864

[dire kite]

Yo brother from another mother

[feral river]

1124 USD

that's pro

mine's not pro

sick.

[thorny steeple]

💀you're not an iphone user if you dont flex its price

[dire kite]

This phone's cover Can't even protect the back when it drops by your hand mistakenly

[feral river]

[formal pilot]

Dude I'm using Chinese phone, I said something bad about communism 30 mn ago

Now my device is heating up

[feral river]

wtf did you do!

[formal pilot]

Like crazy

[feral river]

your phone is gonna boom

[thorny steeple]

Play the propaganda music

Rn

[dire kite]

https://tenor.com/view/propaganda-senses-spider-man-gif-22504799

[feral river]

Red Sun in the sky

play it

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-cat-sovicat-soviet-ussr-cat-gif-21826197

[feral river]

fr this song banned in China

can you believe it ?

[formal pilot]

Can we talk about cartoons n stuffs?? If you don't have any problems

[thorny steeple]

Oh why is that

[feral river]

because that is contained some information like worshipping Mao zedong

[feral river]

anime ?

[formal pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/winni-the-pooh-gif-26198547

[thorny steeple]

Ohh they dont like buddhism zen ish ideologies I forgot

kinda sad that they banned wechat in india tho

[formal pilot]

Well anime is Japanese concept right??

[feral river]

well ?

[formal pilot]

It had We in it

[feral river]

yes it's japanese but we have it here.

actually now it's japanese-korean-chinese concept

[main bison]

attack on titan is the best

https://tenor.com/view/aot-attack-on-titan-gif-22558363

[formal pilot]

Sorry I'm not cultured enough about anime

[main bison]

you can't understand how much i love aot

Armin is one of the main characters

if i had a son i would name him Armin

No matter what my wife thinks about it

[formal pilot]

Damn

[feral river]

well I watched numerous anime and... idk how I'm gonna say but anime girls best.

[formal pilot]

By that logic i should name my son LGM30 intercontinental ballistic missile

[feral river]

https://www.pixiv.net/en/

[formal pilot]

@feral river @thorny steeple what's going on between you guys

[thorny steeple]

Nothing?

[formal pilot]

I mean all the time i hear news about India - china

[main bison]

yeah also if had a daughter i would name her Emma
Which also a character from an anime

sounds cute right?

[feral river]

anime ?

[main bison]

Yeah

[feral river]

emma ? which anime

[formal pilot]

Hell yeah

[feral river]

which one which one

[main bison]

i can't remember its name
it was about some kids who wanna escape the dorm? mayhe

[thorny steeple]

Geopolitical pressure nm

And a lot of history

[feral river]

oh I was familiar about japanese names because I watch japanese anime LOL

[thorny steeple]

Its complex

[main bison]

i just googled it here it is
Emma (エマ, Ema) is the main protagonist of The Promised Neverland

[rose eagle]

hey, is anyone here a Jojo fan?

[feral river]

recently I'm watching that... that one I mean 葬送のフリーレン

I don't know what english name is it.

[main bison]

now you guys know what the name of my children will be

[formal pilot]

Yeah dude it's complicated

[main bison]

Emma and Armin
Sounds cute Right?

[feral river]

cute yeah pretty cute

[feral river]

because I say whatever I like ?

[green bobcat]

There are 24 hours in a day. When do you get so happy in 24 hours? When you go to sleep, right? Isn't there a daily battle in your mind to extend the duration of your sleep? How many of you snooze the alarm by 5 or 10 mins? There are three stages in 24 hours: wakefulness, dream, and deep sleep. When you experience deep sleep, do you enjoy waking up in the morning or when your sleep is disturbed? Of course, deep sleep. So, that's the most blissful state to be in. What if the things that happen in deep sleep in also happen wakefulness? Isn't it a miracle? Will you call it happiness, or do you get a sensation or feeling from an object or person for a second, which is linked to a thought, object, or person, giving you temporary pleasure? Is it better or a state which is absolute?

[feral river]

or I just know what is happening here

[rose eagle]

.

[formal pilot]

Emma : dad listen
You : what son

Ok sorry guys I was lame

[silver vault]

I cried

[formal pilot]

That's why I want to know what both of you watching on news

[main bison]

Emma is the girl

[silver vault]

Indian news is filled with Hindu-Muslim conflict lol, there's nothing informative to watch there

[thorny steeple]

I dont really feel patriotism with my country tbh

[feral river]

well... Chinese news is a lot. if you mean geopolitical news, we have China-Taiwan conflict, Russia-Ukraine war, Hamas-Israel war etc.

[thorny steeple]

Like yes, maybe my culture but nah the government is dog water

[feral river]

we almost have every field in geopolitical news and it's fun

[main bison]

sounds cool

[formal pilot]

Gotta go Bois it's gym time

[feral river]

and actually they are not talking that by spreading fake news but they have trend on this like pro-Russia when posting those news...

[feral river]

but actually everything they post is real thing

[thorny steeple]

See ya mate

[feral river]

so just not bad.

[rose eagle]

In your country, does the news report on harmful and ridiculous content? (absolutely not)

[feral river]

well well well, it has ridiculous content

[rose eagle]

damn toxic and bullshit content is invading tiktok in my country 😭

[feral river]

we have a lot of here and we record it up and send it to the internet

XD 🤣

[rose eagle]

i saw my friend's tiktok account and when i opened it it was all girls shaking their ass

[feral river]

I love that sentence from that US senator is, tiktok is spreading science, educational, math videos to chinese childrens and they are spreading hateful contents even suicide, drugs to american childrens 🤣

idk if it's true but it's so fun XDDDD

[rose eagle]

LGBT

[feral river]

damn that's lame

idk whether it's true or not but its fun

we love spreading funny news I guess, like somewhere started war and somewhere against each other using different ways

and we talk

I think that's a lot difference between west medias.

but all of our official verified media and our official media, will not spread fake news.

they may spread some good news for themselves and not spreading bad news but they won't spread fake news.

I think that's the good point they have.

[green bobcat]

One happiness is relative, connected to something or someone, and the other is absolute which is not connected to anything or anyone. That happens in deep sleep. In deep sleep, neither are you rich nor poor.
Neither are you educated nor uneducated.
Deep sleep means transcending the conscious and subconscious mind. When we are in a wakeful state, our conscious mind is activated, and our subconscious mind is also activated. The subconscious mind forces you to do what you don't like but have to do because the subconscious mind's power is higher than the conscious. Subconscious means from childhood until now, whatever your experiences are, and conscious means the concept of right and wrong in your mind. Who wins?

[rose eagle]

hmm

[green bobcat]

The subconscious wins in most cases, but in some situations, the conscious mind, when continuously reinforced with thoughts and efforts, can win against the subconscious. But in
the long term, the subconscious wins. This is an endless struggle that will always go on. In dreams, the subconscious gets activated, and you become what you truly are. Your dream is also relative; when something goes as you want,
you feel good, but if you have a different dream, your dream breaks instantly. In deep sleep, both the conscious and subconscious get deactivated, but your body functions properly. All the books in the universe talk about the conscious and subconscious, waking state, and dreams. Everyone says, "Do this, and you'll get that." But nothing happens by doing anything. However,
you have to act to survive. If you have a daughter, you have to take care of her. So, doing nothing is not the solution. I'm just saying that if you think you'll be happy through these ways, it's not
possible. Then what's happiness? It's going beyond the conscious and subconscious, and it naturally happens in deep sleep. That's why many people consume drugs, alcohol, and some medicine; their brain relaxes, and they feel happy. So, is there a fourth way, apart from these three states: waking, dreaming, and sleeping? If not, then there's no way to achieve happiness. If something happens like deep sleep when you're awake, would be interesting.

You're awake, but there's no conscious and subconscious thought. If you can see the center point of your thought, then you'll be free from thoughts related to the self, similar to deep sleep while fully awake.
"True happiness is not about acquiring anything, it is about discovering what you actually are."

I WONDER HOW I LOOK, WHETHER YOU LOOK THE SAME OR NOT.

[rose eagle]

Hey do you guy think and feel about fucking asian parents style?

They made me angry so many time

[thorny steeple]

??

You have trauma with LGBT group?

[thorny steeple]

I'm Asian as well

[rose eagle]

Vietnamese?

[rose eagle]

I'm neutral

[thorny steeple]

nope

[rose eagle]

Ok

[civic reef]

i think it is way too strict

i could agree upon certain things that are associated with it, like i generally agree with the idea that young people will benefit more from studying/learning something, rather than dating or drinking, but still i bet there is more to that

[civic reef]

id say the parents, if they are too strict, may end up really affecting the child's health, especially mental health. fear of failure, low self-esteem, and other issues are often effects one gets from that

everybody wants to have some space

if they arent given that, by the parents, they may feel closed down, imprisoned

[restive ferry]

Hello people, what this serious chat is all about? We gotta speak like a smart a. Or just spamming long random-based sentences?

[abstract hamlet]

Hi

[cerulean ore]

You don't have to be savvy to express your opinion here

Illiteracy is the leading cause of debates in Serious Chat

[restive ferry]

You have to be a person to filled out your obsessions here

[cerulean ore]

Not necessarily

[restive ferry]

Bravo. Stop being that person, Ms.

[silver vault]

Bros onto nothing

[jade dew]

It becomes more exciting.

[feral river]

War on independence.

that's what I do and I won I literally gained autonomy 🤣

you are indeed need to let them know how powerful you are

then you will be free

for Asian parents they don't care what you say but what you do.

[cerulean ore]

Ofc you would know

When ever I feel like someone has a maddeningly stupid take, I remember Emilia exists and I feel better

I said I feel better

[jade dew]

you're getting triggered i see

[cerulean ore]

If you can't comprehend a single sentence then you should really change your role to beginner

[jade dew]

you can't take jokes or humour, anything at all?

[cerulean ore]

No. Never

[jade dew]

then you will see in serious chat more than that

[manic juniper]

I want people here to suggest me good Xbox original and 360 exclusives

[peak portal]

Hi, Is anyone from india.....

[formal pilot]

It's Day 2 without any religious debate in serious chat, intresting

[fluid bronze]

Do you belive in beliefs?

[formal pilot]

Yes I do

But I don't believe in faith

[fluid bronze]

Mh interesting 🤔 what mean’s faith according to you ?
Faith isn’t a beautiful thing ?

[formal pilot]

Faith might be beautiful for some

But not for me

[fluid bronze]

I feel like that you talk about religion, not faith (i mean it's two different things)

I understand the fact that so many people (nowadays) are bummed about religion

[formal pilot]

Faith for me is like living inside igloo of inconsiderately

[fluid bronze]

When you have the faith about yourself, this is an igloo?

[formal pilot]

I believe in myself

Sometimes we use faith as synonym for believe

But at the core level it's diff dude

I might be wrong, I'm not good with English

[fluid bronze]

i don't know, it's an eternal question in reality xD

[formal pilot]

?def faith

[cursive bobcat]

Word: faith

Definition 1 (noun): a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
Definition 2 (noun): complete confidence in a person or plan etc
Definition 3 (noun): an institution to express belief in a divine power

Other definitions can be found here

Definition requested by arifixt

[rose sandal]

Hii is there any English enthusiastic person who wants to practice with me

[idle plover]

?def Bisexuality

[cursive bobcat]

Word: Bisexuality

Definition 1 (noun): showing characteristics of both sexes
Definition 2 (noun): sexual activity with both men and women

Definition requested by houselostyoung#6018

[main bison]

hi

[formal pilot]

Sometimes people crack homophonic jokes, just to be dank

I'm sorry on the behalf of beginner chat

[main bison]

I believe being gay is mental issue

[cerulean ore]

Fuckin hell

[main bison]

that's my belief

[cerulean ore]

Well it sucks

[main bison]

N9

[keen wraith]

Count me in

[cerulean ore]

Be sorry for the people in serious chat as well

They're everywhere

[formal pilot]

He was leading the beginner chat

[main bison]

[formal pilot]

How is it mental issue?

[main bison]

If you ever studied biology you know

[cerulean ore]

Lmao

[formal pilot]

You want my marksheet? i can give you

I'm biology student

[restive ferry]

If what you mean by that is text-based practice, I'm in.

[main bison]

[restive ferry]

Are you a psychologist?

[main bison]

No i don't think so

[formal pilot]

Currently doing bachelor's in human psychology

[restive ferry]

Who is a psychologist here

[formal pilot]

But before that I took pcmb

[restive ferry]

Oh so you are a psychologist

[formal pilot]

Not yet, 2 years left

Explain me how is it mental health issue?

[main bison]

So

[formal pilot]

You said biology student know it's mental health issue

I'm biology student, i don't think it's mental health issue

Please enlighten me sir with your great knowledge

[main bison]

[cerulean ore]

Debating science with someone with broken English might as well be a Sisyphean task.

[main bison]

Who do you call a broken English?

[cerulean ore]

Exactly

[main bison]

that's really offensive

[cerulean ore]

And this isn't offensive?

[formal pilot]

Few days ago isfrun said "i like to plant seeds of doubt in them and maybe they will start doing research on their own"

So yeah I'm just planting some seeds

[main bison]

it depends what is your definition of offensive

[cerulean ore]

Lol I think it was a reply to me that's why I remember this but it really isn't worth your time tbh

they're just stuck in their archaic ways and won't understand any logic or reason you present to them

[jolly agate]

You shouldn’t reveal your intentions that easily

[cerulean ore]

Like you just said that you have studied biology thoroughly and know better, what @main bison replied as? He said "so?"

Didn't even try to refute your argument at all

[formal pilot]

He got the point

[main bison]

i don't think i gave you the permission to ping me

[cerulean ore]

Lol sorry

[jolly agate]

He doesn’t need it

[cerulean ore]

Just let him be

[jolly agate]

What ya talking about

Ping to the comment where it all started

[feral river]

what a peaceful day.

[jolly agate]

cheers

[feral river]

cheers too bro.

[jolly agate]

this guy

[formal scaffold]

💪🏾 Who dares summon me 💪🏾

[jolly agate]

Knew it

[formal pilot]

Time is only thing I can contribute to humankind lol

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[jolly agate]

the moment someone mention religion this guy wanna to join

[formal pilot]

[formal scaffold]

What can I say I got a mental condition ig.

[feral river]

declared war

[jolly agate]

Let’s see

[feral river]

we all know strategist always preparing war at the peace time.

but now, I'm gonna sleep here is so freaking late like 4AM

[formal scaffold]

I wont disturb the peace, yall shall live for now.

[feral river]

bye guys. XD

[jolly agate]

that’s their job

[jolly agate]

bye

[formal scaffold]

Gnight ❤️

[feral river]

u too ❤️

[feral river]

bye

[zinc jewel]

Guys is there any easy way to use in , on and at for places?

[static gate]

U r right , being gay is contrary to human nature

[static gate]

There was an interesting discussions that I messed 🥲😄

[unborn sinew]

DM me

[formal pilot]

Well the concept of homosexuality is older than many religions

[static gate]

Yeah , ppl make the same mistakes whatever the age is but we can't say its true cuz its for a long time , moreover the ppl who was do this awful action they death in a bad way

[formal pilot]

You're saying homosexuality= bad death?

[covert raptor]

allah made them gay. Not their fault?

Let's learn to love and respect their lifestyle

[thorny steeple]

allah didn’t make them gay athubillah 💀

it’s their choice

[covert raptor]

You think straight is a choice too or born with

[thorny steeple]

u born with it

[covert raptor]

Lmao but gay is a choice? This is double standard

[vague kettle]

That's the thing about religion. I have to trust in something or someone but it can let me go a wrong way and then I'll have to suffer in hell. Does it work like this?

[thorny steeple]

see we were born either female or male, so being "attracted" to the other gender is implied and normal. If you tell me that a person is attracted to another person from the same gender then it's a mental problem (I'm not saying it, its science who said it 😀)

plus it’s literally prohibited in every religion so u chose to do that sin 💀

[vague kettle]

My attitude to it was negative. Then I saw that they are not different at all, they just like people that are the same gender as they.

[formal pilot]

[vague kettle]

It's prohibited in every religion, but god loves you, he knows what's going to be better for you, but just in case, you'll suffer in pain in hell for loving a same gender person, but he loves you 🙂

[thorny steeple]

i’m not saying that they are insane but science did say that these kind of people have something wrong

[vague kettle]

That's their problem. Not yours.

[thorny steeple]

i’m just saying

[vague kettle]

I just don't understand why you put a religion here

[thorny steeple]

bc i’m religious and I did not only just put religion in lol

[vague kettle]

The concept of any religion is strange. Something or someone loves you, it or he/she has some rules prepared for you, you have to follow them, if you don't wanna follow - go to hell fella, if you do - great, but live your life being scared of being punished for all you do because it or he/she loves you 🙂

[thorny steeple]

u aren’t religious right?

[thorny steeple]

bc of you aren’t it’s useless to explain it and u won’t get anything

[vague kettle]

I know a way more about Islam than some muslims, you may trust or may not trust me, it's you choice, I was a Christian for many years and watching some facts with my own eyes, watching Zeitgeist movies and seeing that some of prohibited in religion things actually work (somehow) made me not religious at all.

[thorny steeple]

well idk what to say that was your choice

[vague kettle]

It was my choice indeed, yea

[thorny steeple]

but for me god it’s everything and idk how y’all can just live and do whatever y’all want without thinking about him 💀

[vague kettle]

I can spend my life praying and can spend my life for doing good things for people. But I'll still be in hell, no matter what I did wrong or right.

[vague kettle]

Okay, now tell me why it exists

Only facts, not "My book says it exists"

I know that it says that a certain god exists in every religious book

[thorny steeple]

why the hell would you say that now

[thorny steeple]

wdym why it exists cuz that’s crazy

[vague kettle]

Wait, so, if I'll be a religious person, but I'll be greedy, bad towards other people, I'll think only about myself, I'll never care about others except for my god. Then lets take a look at a completely different situation. I'm not greedy, I'm good to people, I care about others, not only about myself, I'm trying to help people who need it, but I don't trust in god. What person is going to hell?

[thorny steeple]

and why can’t u be both huh?💀 be kind and trust in god

it’s not hard yk

[vague kettle]

I asked a question. I expect to get an answer to my question. Not a question from you.

[vague kettle]

If you don't want to answer my previous question, I'll ask another one. Why do I have to trust in this god, not that. As an example, why do I have to trust in Jesus but not in Zeus, Poseidon, Hera, Demeter, Aphrodite, Athena, Artemis?

They are all gods! Why? Because it says that I have to trust in Jesus in Bible?

[livid kettle]

Cuz they don't exist

They're not gods

Jesus is not a god as well

A prophet

[vague kettle]

Ahh, yea, you're going to say he's a prophet, well done lad

[livid kettle]

Ofc

Want me to believe that the son of a god died for humans sins?

No never

[vague kettle]

You don't want to believe in what I want (In this case I don't, let's pretend I do), but why do I have to believe in what you believe?

[livid kettle]

Logically A god is perfect
He never makes mistakes
He doesn't sleep,nor die
He gives and takes whenever he wants and however he wants
Not a human exposed to sins and death

[vague kettle]

You're saying things that are written in your book

[livid kettle]

I'm not tellin u to believe in what i believe,we r sharin thoughts

[thorny steeple]

yeah go pray to Zeus 👹 💀

it’s getting funny I swear

[livid kettle]

Yes one original book that has been memorised generation by generation,not diffrent versions of a book which is real,? Idk

[vague kettle]

If I tell you that nothing exists, you will ask me why I think so, after that I'll simply say that I've read it from a website I found on internet. Makes sense or no?

[vague kettle]

Lad is gonna say that the Holy Bible was updated

[vague kettle]

I'll write a book of more than 1000 pages of why our world is not real and why it's all just an illusion. I'll print thousands of them and leave them somewhere safe. Some people may find them in hundreds years time and tell it to other people, they will think that I knew something and some of them will trust me and think that our world is not real.

[thorny steeple]

u literally believed what u read on a random website?💀

[vague kettle]

I assume you are too young for such topics.

Only based on your level of understanding of what's actually going on here.

[livid kettle]

U search who wrote it,how did they find such ideas,why and when
The book i read the holy quran ,has the words of the real god
The words has been told to our prophet mohamed by gebrial
Mohamed was illiterate so the book u assume was written randomly cannot and will not be written the same way

[thorny steeple]

either you are a believer or you are not so honestly I wouldn't know what to tell you because even if I told you that God exists you wouldn't believe me and you will continue to ask me questions from now until 6 am but anyway do what you want, obviously I won't be the one to change your mind/religion and listen to my advice, try praying decently for once putting all your heart into it and I'm sure you'll have some second thoughts

young my ass 💀

[livid kettle]

Even arabs now struggle to come up with words same as written in quran

[livid kettle]

Truuue

[vague kettle]

You both don't understand that I spent a couple of years learning religions, both Christianity and Islam.

[livid kettle]

If u wanna know go read in those websites u believe in

[vague kettle]

And you actually don't understand my examples, you both think that I believe information I found on a random website.

I asuume you don't even read what I write.

And that's the whole problem of why you don't understand me and I don't understand you.

[thorny steeple]

and u believed a random website on the internet? that’s more than wild

[thorny steeple]

my mouth dropped wallahi

[livid kettle]

I'm reading,but your telling the same thing

[vague kettle]

Now tell me where I said that I believed information from a random website.

Just reply to my message where I said that 🙂

[thorny steeple]

hold on cuz i’m not crazy

[livid kettle]

He gave an example
Believein somthi'g written in a website

[vague kettle]

"If I tell you that nothing exists, you will ask me why I think so, after that I'll simply say that I've read it from a website I found on internet. Makes sense or no?"

[livid kettle]

This is the point i explained it

[vague kettle]

It was an example, not a sentence where I say that I read something on a random website and that's the only truth.

[livid kettle]

U can't compare a website to "the book" i'm readin

[thorny steeple]

so u are not that stupid

thank god

[vague kettle]

Yea, thanks

[livid kettle]

Ya rabi bamoot

[vague kettle]

Of course

[thorny steeple]

da7 bi talani an shouri wallahi (i’m bad at franko ik 💔)

how old are u

If I can ask

[vague kettle]

Well, lads, I'm not trying to prove you why you don't have to believe in something, I'm only seeking for an opportunity to talk to religious people and discuss it. You both try to prove me that the god exists. I know something or someone exists, it's just not a god we all imagine.

[livid kettle]

Hadi baby hadi ma3lech hehehe
I'm 21

[livid kettle]

We r discussin

[vague kettle]

Pretty convinced that my life is not a coincedence. All the things happen for a reason.

[livid kettle]

Of course

Are u an atheist?

[river python]

Rats are good to eat

[livid kettle]

Life is an experience

Everything that happens have a purpose and a reason why it happened

[livid kettle]

If u wanna think about one's existence start by this

[thorny steeple]

Really?

[livid kettle]

[vague kettle]

I'll tell you a little story. I wanted to become a programmer for years, I bought a new gaming PC and started playing flight simulators, talked to my flight instructor in a certified virtual flight school and 15 minutes of a little talk led to changing my dream of becoming a programmer to a dream of becoming a pilot.

[livid kettle]

Library

[river python]

Ya

[thorny steeple]

How does it taste

[vague kettle]

I don't say that the god doesn't exist. I believe that something exists, but that something, or someone, whatever option is the best for you, is not what we all imagine. It's simply something different.

So, It's something between agnostic and atheist.

[thorny steeple]

im done with this chat and done with you 😭 imma go watch kavin gates poses

Are you talking about yourself?

[vague kettle]

Is it halal?

[river python]

Nahhh

[livid kettle]

Hmm,i see,u believe u exist for a purpose?

[vague kettle]

Well, a bit

[thorny steeple]

it’s very haram

[vague kettle]

Not good on ya then

[thorny steeple]

This is a serious chat ,maintain the decorum.

[river python]

Nope

[vague kettle]

I only meet people I need. I don't meet people I don't need. Literally never met a single person I don't need in my entire life.

[thorny steeple]

do u even know who kavin gates is

[livid kettle]

Good,hold on to that feeling
We do exist for a purpose ,as u said u already have an idea about islam
I mean we exist to serve god and experience life the good and the bad

[vague kettle]

Nope. And I think it's great

[livid kettle]

Lucky you,i met a lot of people and they all turned to be lessons

[thorny steeple]

OK, do whatever you want. Mods will going to punish you

[livid kettle]

Well ofc some are a bless

[livid kettle]

Respect the chat

[river python]

Fine fine

[vague kettle]

It's not lucky me, it's mostly because I'm not trying to find any friends, I do everything by myself.

And I only meet people who can significantly impact my life.

Not people who are going to be lessons for me.

[livid kettle]

U just go with the flow and life gives u those peopel?

It's a bless u know

[whole beacon]

[livid kettle]

Nabi kifah wela 3andk greet and meet

[vague kettle]

I don't know if the life gives me people, maybe a god gives me those people I need and people I don't need just get away from my life, but I assume it's not a coincedence.

[livid kettle]

Mod?

[whole beacon]

Plz U wonna delete this and start again ?

[livid kettle]

Exactlyy,this is what you i wanted u to say

[vague kettle]

A good lesson is to not have any friends. A good lesson is to trust my intuition when I really don't want to trust it. I saved my dad's life because of my intuition.

[livid kettle]

U believe there is a god giving you these chances

[whole beacon]

[thorny steeple]

Were u lurking ?

[river python]

Nuhuh

[vague kettle]

Absolutelly. But it's not a god you imagine.

[thorny steeple]

yeah rest just like that don’t evolve

[livid kettle]

[vague kettle]

I have a midterm, I don't need that Kevin to rest and relax 🙂

[whole beacon]

Hahahahahahahahah, wait i thought the emo was just shush, lmao sry i didn't mean that

[whole beacon]

Hmmmm?

[whole beacon]

No

[livid kettle]

I know,it's only just the thought u believe there is a god givin you choices is a begining to believe

[vague kettle]

A begining to believe was more than two years ago. Nothing happened.

[livid kettle]

Naah it's okey,u should see me and agathin shushing each other

[whole beacon]

Jsp 3tawhali, ndir vérification ta3 les membres

[livid kettle]

Galouli tweli teacher hna gotlhom la

[vague kettle]

I don't need to waste my time. I'm full on work, I'm full on tasks, I think that's perfectly clear explanation why there is no reason of trying to prove me something.

[whole beacon]

@river python keep it civil. That's all i ask for okay?

[vague kettle]

Religion controls people. Not faith, but religion.

[whole beacon]

Daayumn, why?
Is it too much for u

[vague kettle]

These are two different things.

[livid kettle]

Hmm

[jolly agate]

religion again

why do you had to broke our streak

we had 2 days without religion

it was going good

[vague kettle]

Who are "we"?

[jolly agate]

now we gotta start from square one

ahh

[livid kettle]

I don't know how to teach and i'm anxious in vc

I gta try harder to join vc here,i relly need to improve my skills

[vague kettle]

Now lads, thanks for a nice talk, 10:16PM, gotta go to grab a bit of food and sleep. See ya all

[livid kettle]

Okkyy have a nice..night? And good talkin
Cya

[whole beacon]

Here Teaching is hard for me , also events management.
But yeah push ur self to the limits and join vcs u'll never regret it.

[whole beacon]

Gd n8, and bone appétit

[livid kettle]

L'environment ta3i aslan tsmahch,imagine i host somethin and people here my family tzlk

Jib m3ak l batata

Chkoun kasser l kass

Ayo..can't imagine

[whole beacon]

Wla , cha rak dir
HAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAH ANA TANI
i get it , one of the reasons i don't hoste as well.

[livid kettle]

Zaineb diri 9ahwa
Me : oky guys i'll make a quick coffee and get back

[covert raptor]

It's interpreted to be prohibited in abrahamic religions, but we have gay imams, masjids who do different interpretations.

[covert raptor]

All religions are inclusive and diverse. It's that some people have different interpretations that makes it bad.

[manic juniper]

It isn't prohibited in every religion

Literally not prohibited in most kinds of animism

[thorny steeple]

💀I am not sure man, but there's nothing coherently wrong with both of these actions

[thorny steeple]

When a group of people are exploited for greed, what you're referring to is corruption & turmoil. At the end of the day, a religion is great for removing "shame" because you may be shifting your responsibilities. it's the Justice ability of the person. For example, if i feel killing people is morally correct, i will try to interpret my religious scripts to that & Bring it closer to my ideology

most radical religious heads are unable to see the script as is, they change its interpretation to their needs.

But the second example is a morally "good" person, well grounded & structured However, i am still unable to understand what belief system they follow... because sometimes people just hate "gods" and they project their hatred even though they are "good" people. Overall humans are more complicated than that

[rose eagle]

Yesterday I had the flu and felt feverish and in my imagination I thought they would let me miss school
But not, they just gave me all kinds of different drugs and then forced me to go to school or else they would give me all kinds of different punishments 😭

"Child, please rest assured because we have already given you paracetamol and anti-flu medicine, so after 1 hour in class, you will be better immediately!"

and I sneezed 6 times in a row during class and my throat itched terribly

Asian parents are assholes, they may love you but they can't understand your feelings

[thorny steeple]

How to get over from online ex

[obsidian shore]

Easy. Embrace reality 😈

[thorny steeple]

But what if they show up like they still like me and having in relationship with other girl

When I ask him you in relationship with her

He said I have nothing to do with her

So when I show up he told her Don't trust others you know me

[obsidian shore]

Hmm

[thorny steeple]

Yesssss

[obsidian shore]

Take a break from discord I guess? Hold up I will reply more. I have to transfer some paperwork over

[obsidian shore]

Hmm. I would say reading is good? Especially for a heavy heart? Hmm. Talking to friends more often and or to random people? Live life is a definite

[thorny steeple]

What if he shows up everyday with his new girl

[obsidian shore]

Hmmm. Have a friend that is a boy come with you? 😭

[thorny steeple]

It's like using them not love

Ik how it feels

So not

[obsidian shore]

Do you love the person or are you attached to the person? Those are 2 different things yet 1 can exist in the same instance of the other. You can be attached to someone yet you hate them 🤷‍♂️

[thorny steeple]

Idk

I was never in this phase before

I was 19 when I knew him

First boy

And that too online

you will get over it

it's just a matter of time

[obsidian shore]

I was in a 3 year relationship and I lived with this girl. Yet when I enlisted into the marine corps she wrote me a break up letter. I tried talking to her once I got out yet she didn't want to. I'm still good friends with her dad though. But I never understood the mentality of not explaining to me why she wanted to break up 🤷‍♂️

[thorny steeple]

What if it happened few minutes ago

[obsidian shore]

Sometimes illogical things happen 🤷‍♂️. Just go with the flow I guess?

[thorny steeple]

At the end him and his friends made me bad

And crazy

They even said this to me

[thorny steeple]

1#People always want the best things
and nobody is the best that's is why someone is always better than someone else
Some people would just leave you in order to get someone they think is better than you that's why they could choose them if they don't truely love you

2#There could be another possibility, like if you love someone (loving someone doesn't hurt, but it's the fear of losing them, rejections, etc that hurt), you will feel hurt too. Loving is stressful .if you love, you will fear these kinds of situations and that's why some people don't even want to fall in love

and people don't fall in love with some people cuz they think they are special like they r more kind and nicer than others that's what makes them like you
and they call it true love ,we r soulmate blah blah
you would never fall if you aren't nicer and more kind

[thorny steeple]

crying isn't a bad thing
i would just try maybe for couple of weeks
it's better to get hurt than hurting others i would just say, sorry, thank you for the memories

[thorny steeple]

people learn from their mistakes

[thorny steeple]

yeh

[thorny steeple]

I avoided that person but he still ping me when i talked back and I told him I'll tell his new girl he Said there is nothing between us

But when i show up and asked what's his problem when he was with his new girl

[thorny steeple]

He told her Don't trust others you know me

[thorny steeple]

first of all you have to ask yourself what do you really want
1.do you want to still keep him as a friend
2.his actions r hurting ur feelings so you have to leave him
etc

[obsidian shore]

I try not to have emotions 🤷‍♂️ to much

[thorny steeple]

yeh
same

[thorny steeple]

if it really hurts then just leave him

block him or say

Don't disturb me again

etc

[obsidian shore]

She can't. She is still emotionally attached 🤷‍♂️

[thorny steeple]

🕵️she is still but she has to

it's a better option to leave rather than seeing them together

amd getting hurt

Out of sight out of mind

that's what I wanted mean

[obsidian shore]

It's easier said than done.

The fear of loneliness when all you know is them?

[thorny steeple]

there is another thing she can do to try to love someone else
love is the only thing that can cover all the pain

but it might happen again 🕵️
people come, people would
i would say don't fall in love

[thorny steeple]

I've felt it as well i k how it feels 🕵️

[thorny steeple]

I was avoiding him but he kept pining me I thought he was sad or feeling bad replied to him I'll tell your new girl and he told me there is nothing between them and acted like u wanted to get back and when i asked him what's his problem when they are together he told her she knows him and don't trust others

[thorny steeple]

i can understand

[thorny steeple]

first of all

(typing wait)

[thorny steeple]

I dont want to say this but there is possibility of you could be overthinking because you like him and now you have a fear that the girl would take your place and that's why you are jealous There is nothing wrong with being jealous you are jealous cause you truly like him and don't want to lose him. It's just a normal human nature.

all of these what i just said is from One of my prospectives
nobody would never how u r feeling unless they have see and feel all that exact same thing which happened with their own eyes and hearts

[thorny steeple]

only you know what happened and how you are truly feeling
you have to understand what is the right thing to do
truth hurts,but you gotta do the right thing , make the right choices yk

nobody would do that for u
even people here can't do anything rather than comforting u and say "get over it, forget him blah blah blah blah"

your happiness comes first and think about others
but never do the wrong thing

always on the side that makes everyone smile:)

I gotta go to school now

if you want i would love to talk to you more about this

i noticed someone said "it's manipulation aaa
I hope you could see yourself with my eyes",
one of the thousand possibilities

we never know what's the truth
and you have your own eyes don't use other

whenever you feel disheartened remember to listen to "cute" musics it would feel you to feel better
it really works

https://open.spotify.com/track/5gIcDKqHxmirYqIJPkZqZ7?si=biXkKyPSTaqTRYX4lv3Ivg&context=spotify%3Atrack%3A5gIcDKqHxmirYqIJPkZqZ7

one of my favourites

[cerulean ore]

please don't ruin my morning

[thorny steeple]

bruh

[thorny steeple]

wow did i miss something

They probably just meant to say, your god isn't the reason they're gay 😂

[static gate]

Maybe i replied to the wrong msg , but I am determined in my opinion lol😁

I couldn't imagine that anyone sane can believe in these mental issues

[thorny steeple]

They still together

But i avoided him thinking he messing with me

[raw kindle]

?

[weak wind]

why some men and feminists are degrading masculinity??

[raw kindle]

Cuz they might hate themselve

[raw kindle]

maybe they want to change their own gender

[weak wind]

may be they know what a men can do, if he want

[raw kindle]

I don't know this too much

[covert raptor]

She must have felt like a fish trapped inside a net. You know that feeling when monogamous relationships tend to be boring and traditional.

[raw kindle]

Why asking this

This total disaster, if we talk about this topic

[weak wind]

it's a serious topic because some ppl just wanna to degrade our thought

[thorny steeple]

What's the vital point of this discussion?

[raw kindle]

Can you explain or describe what you met or saw?

[thorny steeple]

it is significant we have to get a point

[covert raptor]

Thinking about masculinity or femininity is old order thinking. These are social constructs that need to be taught, not natural.

[raw kindle]

I see

[thorny steeple]

Under modern age, diversity should be allowed

[covert raptor]

traditional masculinity harmful according to the latest psychology position

[weak wind]

recently i met some feminist ppl ( men and women )
and they just believe that masculinity is a toxic tret

[raw kindle]

WTH

I know this

We also have a lot of feminist people in Taiwan

[covert raptor]

Taiwan is a feminist country lol

[raw kindle]

not

No

You are wrong

[narrow fossil]

miles did a 180 for one sec

[raw kindle]

Taiwan used to be Masculism

[thorny steeple]

Personality traits depends on people's thought or is based on hitrory

[covert raptor]

Not lying look up APA

[narrow fossil]

I know

[weak wind]

some of them believe that men should cry, beg, chase for money/girls/emotional support/family
men are weak and all wars are happening because of men

[raw kindle]

But after European and American culture and religion, let us change our own old policies and started to respect female

[obsidian shore]

No?

[covert raptor]

Don't practice masculinity as simple as that. Stop the harmful nonsense

[raw kindle]

I see,

There is no law or rule men cannot cry

[covert raptor]

But she left?

[thorny steeple]

Necessity depends on age, circumstance, and ofc environment

[narrow fossil]

no don't be unreasonably masculine. As a guy you should still be able to do it by yourself just you should be able to know when to open up

[raw kindle]

Maybe cuz religion or smth else that cuz you don' think so

I'm Femlinst

tbh

[covert raptor]

No, masculinity is harmful period

Be feminine be safe and healthy

[thorny steeple]

I'm halfway right-wing feminist.

[weak wind]

i know but they think we should cry like a kid on a little bit stuff ( girl,money,love,support)

[narrow fossil]

Nah I don't think so its be overtly masculine to the point where you can't even consider taking help from others and trying to bear the load all by yourself where its bad

[raw kindle]

Recently, I had the opportunity to engage with individuals who identify as feminists. It became apparent that there is a prevailing belief among some members of this group that masculinity is inherently toxic. This perspective raises important questions about our understanding of gender dynamics and societal expectations.

Thank you.

[narrow fossil]

but masculinity isn't bad tho its when its overtly masculine

[covert raptor]

Define masculine

[narrow fossil]

toxic masculinity

[raw kindle]

Toxic Masculinity is bad

[covert raptor]

Masculinity is toxic

[raw kindle]

Feminism's growth has sparked important conversations about gender equality and social justice. While it has brought attention to crucial issues, there are also concerns about extremism and inclusivity. It's essential to have balanced discussions and strive for inclusivity as we work towards a more equitable future for all.

[narrow fossil]

For me Masculinity is a trait that society deems as a role for a guy. Such as changing oil in a car. I think a guy should learn that not cuz yk its ubber masculine your a dude but rather its an important life skill to know.

[weak wind]

there is nothing like toxic masculinity but there are some of men who are mis-leaded like some feminist

[raw kindle]

I see, some women are total disaster that disrespectful us.

[narrow fossil]

no just cause a=b doesn't mean b=c

[obsidian shore]

We were going to get married and she did 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[narrow fossil]

You left for the marines right?

[thorny steeple]

Being biased on thoughts is inevitable in some case but it's that shouldn't be against each other. How people think doesn't belong to anyone who is particular and all free.

[obsidian shore]

Yes

[narrow fossil]

was it active service

[obsidian shore]

Yes

[weak wind]

so guys what a men should be ???

[raw kindle]

I have pressing matters to attend to, so I must take my leave now.

[raw kindle]

Normal guy

Just being normal

gtg

[narrow fossil]

might be because she was woried that she may one day recieve a letter saying you were mia or kia. Its tough for the family that receives that and she might not have wanted to experience that so she cut it off.

[thorny steeple]

men should be one who aren't likely to be prejudice and I want them to live freely.

[weak wind]

normal men better hell than thousands of f....... misled ppl ( fake-feminist, orthodox, lgbtq+)

[narrow fossil]

masculine but not toxic about it

or what ever i guess

[covert raptor]

feminine

[thorny steeple]

Besides, should not be inflicted on even any pressure.

[raw kindle]

According to the historian Judith Allen, Charlotte Perkins Gilman invented the term masculism in 1914,[7] when she gave a public lecture series in New York entitled "Studies in Masculism". Apparently the printer did not like the term and tried to change it. Allen writes that Gilman used masculism to refer to the opposition of misogynist men to women's rights and, more broadly, to describe "men's collective political and cultural actions on behalf of their own sex",[8] or what Allen calls the "sexual politics of androcentric cultural discourses".[9] Gilman referred to men and women who opposed women's suffrage as masculists—women who collaborated with these men were "Women Who Won't Move Forward"[10]—and described World War I as "masculism at its worst".[11][additional citation(s) needed]

[weak wind]

then i'm a toxic masculine guy

[raw kindle]

I can'tdescribe

Why don't think by yourself

[thorny steeple]

or u can call them *Psychiatric illness *

[narrow fossil]

You can be masculine man and be a femenist

[weak wind]

in our civilization masculinity exists from thousands of years

[covert raptor]

No that's contradictory lmao

[thorny steeple]

The problem is there're existences who blame men with wrong assumptions.

[weak wind]

i agree

[thorny steeple]

not the men themselves,right?

[obsidian shore]

It is what it is though 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[thorny steeple]

We should not overwhelm them forcing to change that they don't want to be like

[covert raptor]

Masculine is the toxic is attacking feminism causing misogyny with sexism ensuring the onslaught of patriarchal oppression and manipulation.

[weak wind]

real men always know to give other gender equal opportunity

[raw kindle]

Normal men(Atheism or had Religion, own Masculinity not as weak as baby but not as strong as steel, Can handle most things and Threat other equaility)

Sir I really need to go

[narrow fossil]

explain? Cause for me masculine just being a male that adhears to prodominately male roles of society. I think a hard working masculine guy can still support the efforts of feminists as long as they aren't radical.

[raw kindle]

Stop tagging me or I lost my attention

[weak wind]

fr men don't have time to time to target kind of fake of feminists

[thorny steeple]

Accept diversity or Is there anyone can't be tolerated because of religions or anything else affirs? tell me

[narrow fossil]

And real men are usually masculine

[weak wind]

[covert raptor]

Predominantly male roles are sexist and misogynistic perpetuates patriarchal norms and posture

[narrow fossil]

What can I do bout it?

[thorny steeple]

Behold modern Japanese men

They like pretending to be women

[covert raptor]

Be anything but masculine

[weak wind]

i sorry for being a man ohh god 😂 😂

[narrow fossil]

But I don't wanna be a bald two headed pygmy

[thorny steeple]

Moreover those guys are speaking with women voice using voice-changer

[narrow fossil]

I'm a modern Japanese dude and I don't pretend to be a woman

[covert raptor]

Who the what gooblegook

[thorny steeple]

REALLY

[weak wind]

https://tenor.com/view/persona5-persona5strikers-persona5royal-p5-its-showtime-gif-26273084

[covert raptor]

Just who are you talking to

[thorny steeple]

Time has come

ポテト

[narrow fossil]

Something other than masculine man that probably exists in the broad spectrum of lgbtq+ nonsence

[obsidian shore]

But I'm arab 🤷‍♂️ I don't want to pretend to be something I'm not 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[weak wind]

I don't support LG tv
i support mac-book

[narrow fossil]

mac book is garbo

[covert raptor]

Taiwan is lgbtqs friendly

Your president was feminist lesbian woman lol

[narrow fossil]

The anti ccp guy?

[thorny steeple]

It is interesting nature peculiar to Japanese people

[weak wind]

hey i'm from india

[narrow fossil]

Some Japanese people, key word some

[weak wind]

https://tenor.com/view/chad-monke-gif-20835999

[covert raptor]

The new person is, but previous president was.

[thorny steeple]

how about India do they have tendency to pretend to be women?

[narrow fossil]

Thailands Lady boys

[thorny steeple]

well, the quantity is various ofc

[covert raptor]

Are women safe in India ??

Lgbtqs folks

[narrow fossil]

they still have aranged mariges so idk

[narrow fossil]

oh

[covert raptor]

Miss universe is a lady boy

[thorny steeple]

what is lady boy

[covert raptor]

For real

[narrow fossil]

Lmfao she isn't a she then

[covert raptor]

Trans women

[thorny steeple]

I see

[weak wind]

if don't know about india then don't try to degrade india

[narrow fossil]

Trans women that identify as guys

[covert raptor]

She has more balls than men though

[thorny steeple]

You define it as degrading. curious

well, the custom and the standard of sense of feelings(about moral or etc) depends on country.

[covert raptor]

I mean she's strong and independent than men

Anne Jakkaphong owner of Miss universe

[thorny steeple]

In particular in Japan it's very ambiguous bro

Can you understand the meaning of "read the air"?

[narrow fossil]

its "read the room"

no the air

[thorny steeple]

It's specific to there

either is fine bro

There's no room to read the room

anyway that's that