I want to buy the celestron 22480 explorer dobson as my 1st real scope do y’all recommend that?

[toxic hornet]

I am looking for my 1st real scope, and after some research it seems that the explorer 114mm is the best option for me in Holland! What do y’all think?

[gritty hollow]

I woud buy a used dobsonion i got my 12 Inch on for a steal

[placid flare]

it's pretty bad, or rather way overpriced for what it is

any celestron starsense isn't worth the money

[toxic hornet]

There aren’t sadly any good cheap dobsons in local marketplaces around here sadly

[toxic hornet]

What would you recommend?

[placid flare]

the heritege 130p or bresser messier 130p are two good options in a similar price range

I think the latter may be out of production but I'm not sure

[toxic hornet]

👍

[gritty hollow]

Or this ?

Its got goto

So u can try to do astrofotografie

[toxic hornet]

Thats also very cool

[toxic hornet]

This is the one your talking about right?