Polls 5.0

[static sapphire]

FreeCAD (only if I have to) and OpenSCAD

[fallen obsidian]

K

[fallen obsidian]

Tinkercad lol

[stone zealot]

Based, im for my boy SMOOTH OPERATOR

Nahh, i was a verstappen fan too. Still among my fav drivers

[supple wraith]

OnShape

[stone zealot]

GO WEEYUMS

[late summit]

I've been a Hamilton fan since 2007 before that, Alonso

Though tbf I only supported Alonso because he was close to Portugal, also supported Tiago Monteiro as he was portuguese

[stone zealot]

Dayum, I started watching f1 in 2023 bcs of too many Max Verstappen memes. Back then he was my fav driver then Lando was but his fangirls ruined the hype abt him and now im for Carlos

[summer turret]

LH44 💜

[late summit]

I almost quit in 2023 because of how boring that season was

[swift heart]

Same and then I missed out on 2024

[stone zealot]

2024 was peak

[stone zealot]

Yeah, i would fall asleep knowing that Verstappen would win

[stone zealot]

Made a wrong move to Ferrari and is now depressed like Leclerc

[summer turret]

Not a wrong move.
He's won more races than Charles this year.

[late summit]

Newer fans are too quick to assume a move was bad because they're not dominating from the get-go

Everyone thought Lewis' move from McLaren to Mercedes was career ending because the 2013 mercedes was dogshit, and then he won 6 driver titles for Mercedes

[mighty zenith]

Can we got a poll 6.0

[supple wraith]

I had to remove a ton of webs from my newt that I hadn’t used in 2 weeks.

And I don’t even live in Australia!

[sharp berry]

I live in australia

Im convinced spiders dont exist

I haven’t seen one since like when i was 10 yro

[mint talon]

there was one in my eyepiece one time but otherwise nah

[heavy maple]

what new nova???

[summer turret]

Bros been sleeping

[heavy maple]

I think I missed something

[late summit]

yo i was unaware too, what happened

[summer turret]

@late summit @heavy maple

[late summit]

Ah shame, i'm at 41N

[heavy maple]

I'm almost 35N lol

ngl I didn't even know Vela was a constellation until now 💀

[frigid compass]

I’m also at 41N

[white roost]

I’m at 21s

[white roost]

I could image it

Tomorrow night

[devout tinsel]

I'm at 56N

Pls nova only for high northern latitude🙏

[heavy maple]

yeah bc I wanna know what it looks like

[white roost]

I should be able to get some decent time on it, and considering it’s mag 4 maybe even to much

[urban quiver]

Why do the southern hemisphere nerds get everything cool

[white roost]

God loves us more

[urban quiver]

Anyone who lives in Australia was cursed

[white roost]

Nah

[fallen obsidian]

I’m at 42 north

[desert obsidian]

ni

[ivory mural]

the people have spoken

it's been decided lokaton

[desert obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-knights-who-say-ni-ni-gif-12279570

[desert obsidian]

The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd.

[late summit]

Disprove it

A seestar s50 is 500 bucks

[desert obsidian]

Ioptron startracker pro, Zwo asi662mc, 127mm newt, tripod

[late summit]

Find me those items for sale and list their prices

[desert obsidian]

For some reason the search engine is really bad in the country I am currently in, and I haven’t found a 127mm newt by itself yet.

Dunno if it exists

[late summit]

They do exist, but that's not the issue

The 662mc at best is 150 bucks, the ioptron star tracker pro is 400

And you absolutely won't be putting all that in a cheap tripod

[desert obsidian]

https://astronomyplus.com/collections/cameras/products/zwo-asi662mc-asi662mc

https://astronomyplus.com/products/ioptron-skytracker-pro?_pos=1&_psq=Ioptron+skytracker&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Skytracker is not 400

Also thats CAD

[late summit]

Now list the rest

[desert obsidian]

Ok will do later

Im busy right now

[late summit]

550 usd for the S50 at Agena Astro

[summer turret]

At least in Australia it doesn't make sense to get a seestar since its $900

You can find a used swsa 2i for ~$450 and a dslr with lens for like 200

[ivory mural]

The seestar is more than just that

But yea at $900 it still isn't worth it

[desert obsidian]

If we had a 500$ budget, we still have 110$ for a tripod from Amazon and a 127mm newt. I can’t list anything good with this search engine. I’ll check in a couple weeks.

[late summit]

Yeah you're not getting a 4.5 inch newt and a tripod that actually supports that rig for 110 bucks

And remember that the mount you listed has a max payload of 3 kilos

[torn gull]

https://tenor.com/view/m40-messier-40-messier-m40-my-beloved-my-beloved-gif-11820833184550888746

[supple wraith]

People loving M40 is sarcasm right?

[void jolt]

nah, best messier object

[ivory mural]

https://www.astrobin.com/yknyz3/

80h on m40

[fading flower]

This dude has finished astrophotography completely to even think of doing such a thing

How much free time does this dude have

[bronze minnow]

mfs just be imaging anything atp 😭

[restive fiber]

12 hours.

[urban quiver]

I’ve never met someone who rides trains

Trains sound lame tbh

[swift heart]

Absolute slander

[summer turret]

🚮

[late summit]

American spotted

[urban quiver]

Trains are meant to haul coal and steel

[summer turret]

thats a cargo train

we have something called "passenger trains"

people, like you, go on those to locations

similar to the reasons why we have cargo planes and passenger planes

[desert obsidian]

:(

[urban quiver]

There are no passenger trains. Only cargo trains

Every time I hear a train, almost weekly btw. I know it’s carrying American steel and coal to and from the nearby steel mill. God Bless America 🇺🇸

[static sapphire]

Famously the west was won with pickup trucks

[torn gull]

🤢

I'm American and this is a horrible take

[urban quiver]

You’re a Fake American

[ivory mural]

cigar overrated

[torn gull]

I live in nyc we have the best local rail system in the US

[urban quiver]

I don’t consider NYC America

[torn gull]

???

[ivory mural]

it's a very good beginner target because of how bright it is but other than that it doesn't look that good

[urban quiver]

🤮

[bronze minnow]

the amount of horror stories I've seen abt NYC trains

[urban quiver]

You’re wrong

Sunflower Galaxy is boring

[bronze minnow]

if that's the best yalls got I'm scared to see what you consider bad

[urban quiver]

It’s probably the largest local metro system

Because it’s the largest city

[torn gull]

It's not that bad

You just have to not be dumb

There's a lot of cool stuff with the nyc metro system

[bronze minnow]

ah

[torn gull]

Like the 7 train scenic route

[torn gull]

Wdym

[torn gull]

How am I fake

[urban quiver]

fake

[torn gull]

How

[ivory mural]

there is no intelligent life in the universe

[white roost]

how do you know

[bronze minnow]

he doesn't
because there is none

[static sapphire]

He’s just jealous because he doesn’t have trains, only pollution from some stupid steel factory

[marble hearth]

Pretty underrated mode of transport - quiet, fast ish, and cheap ish

[urban quiver]

Breathing the smog is a necessity of every Pennsylvania resident

[static sapphire]

The American mind cannot comprehend trains that are on time, run at 200mph and platforms so clean you could eat of them.

[desert obsidian]

Yes

@analog jolt

M82 bashing over here

[ivory mural]

sunflower is winning😼

[analog jolt]

m82 bad ? I AGREE

[bronze minnow]

might draw a little thing with the finalists battling it out

icl i think it's gonna end with Sunflower vs m40

[fading flower]

New yorkkkkkk
Concrete jungle
Wet dreams
Tomato

[bronze minnow]

and homelessness or something

[marble hearth]

"on time" neither can the European mind 😂

[bronze minnow]

the concept of trains being on time is entirely hypothetical, and has yet to be observed

[fading flower]

As someone who has been living in england for the past year, i can confirm this fact

[delicate lance]

accidentally put 571 twice here lol

[rain void]

i need an "all of the above" option for the color sensors lol

except maybe the small ones for planetary ig

[heavy maple]

voting mono 585 is wild lol

[delicate lance]

voting 517 as best in colour is WILD

[swift heart]

Deal with it

[delicate lance]

the 517 OSC is actual buns for the price

[swift heart]

My dream is an IMX533 upgrade: slightly larger square sensor, Starvis II for better IR quantum efficiency

[swift heart]

okay tbf I probably shouldn't vote for OSC cameras

[delicate lance]

IMX533 is HORRIBLY overrated

[swift heart]

But I stand by the 585 as an NIR enjoyer

[delicate lance]

585 is peak

[swift heart]

It's just a little too small for my RC

[urban quiver]

533 is peak

[delicate lance]

no

its resolution for its sensor size is mediocre

[urban quiver]

no

U are wrong

It’s peak

[delicate lance]

QE is sucky compared to 585

[urban quiver]

Who gives af about QE

Not me

give me my square sensor

[swift heart]

I use a 533, but I do since I shoot in IR

Agree on the square sensor though

[delicate lance]

mosiacs:

[late summit]

literally everyone vro

[delicate lance]

can we both save up together for an IMX900

[urban quiver]

I can do mosaics with the square without any issue. I don’t see how this is a criticism

[urban quiver]

The 533 QE is more than enough

[late summit]

he's saying to do mosaics with the 585

[urban quiver]

585 is overrated

[late summit]

Oakley's stated that a mosaic with the 585 done in the same amount of time as the 533 without a mosaic will produce a way better image

[urban quiver]

mosaics are annoying

no thanks

[delicate lance]

a simple 585 mosaic gets you a 533 compareable square

[swift heart]

I mean I didn't get a 585 since it's a bit oversampled with my scope

But most people are shooting faster than f/8

[late summit]

Saying it's overrated because people get it due to having good QE is a bit silly lol

[urban quiver]

I don’t like mosaics

[late summit]

"People buy the good thing, so it's overrated and I'll use something else"

[urban quiver]

they’re annoying

[urban quiver]

boring sensor. Large sensor superiority

[swift heart]

Mosaics are worth the effort

[late summit]

how can a sensor be boring

[urban quiver]

I think my mount would have a stroke if I tried to do a mosaic

In the same session

[late summit]

why

[urban quiver]

my gti cries when I use it already

[swift heart]

What software do you use?

[late summit]

you don't constantly switch between framings for mosaics

you do X amount of time on one frame and then Y on the other

[urban quiver]

I know

[late summit]

what's overrated is the gti though

easily my biggest regret in AP

[swift heart]

NINA's framing assistant does a great job of handling everything. Manual rotator my beloved

[urban quiver]

Ok you should’ve spent $2,000 instead.

[late summit]

so expensive and it can only do up to 5kg if yer lucky

[urban quiver]

no the gti is easily the best beginner mount

[late summit]

a heq5 with a onstep kit is cheaper and better than the gti in every way

[urban quiver]

Definitely not cheaper where I live

At least $300 more

[late summit]

eq5*

350€ + 150€ for onstep

[delicate lance]

EQ5 with onstep staring at you

[urban quiver]

Where the hell do you find an EQ5 for $350

The cheapest I can find is $600

[late summit]

astroshop lol

[urban quiver]

I’d never buy onstep

[late summit]

skill issue?

[urban quiver]

I’m not putting together a mount. I want a complete package

[delicate lance]

i officially announce you as a professional hater of everything you do not own

[urban quiver]

no no I think the 585 is overrated and boring. It’s a good sensor tho

EQ5 no thanks

[delicate lance]

have you owned one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249365136435843165/1389127069950017586/IMG_5605.gif

[urban quiver]

Thankfully no

[delicate lance]

point proven

[delicate lance]

wait till this guy realises his rig didnt come in one package 🗣️

[urban quiver]

I mean it did tho

1 box

For the mount

[delicate lance]

rig

you built together your rig didnt you

or rather put together

[urban quiver]

ok but did I say rig? No

I said Mount

[delicate lance]

i said rig

[urban quiver]

and that was an irrelevant point

[delicate lance]

it was not

[urban quiver]

yes it was

[delicate lance]

it showed that your logic is hyperspecific onto one case

[urban quiver]

because that’s what I’m talking about.

[bronze minnow]

what have I done

[supple wraith]

What am I looking at?

[bronze minnow]

i got so bored i drew them as characters fighting

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308253626195775501/1348326775016652800/insan-perfect-loop-optimize.gif

[stone zealot]

KAF 8300 ccd is the best

[marble hearth]

see cool target photographed by many others
oo lemme check it out
never rises above 5 degrees

[vagrant basin]

That is so relatable especially in northern hemisphere when you wanna image lagoon or mw

[ivory mural]

i hate my weather SO MUCH

it does NOT need to be cloudy for 4 months and i miss almost all of galaxy season

[urban quiver]

Other - exhaustion

[ivory mural]

exhaustion?

sounds like you need a seestar

[urban quiver]

I’ve been considering it

But first I need to buy

1. 3d printer
2. Pixinsight
3. BlurX

then an AM3 and then a SeeStar maybe

so maybe in around $2000

[ivory mural]

id buy the seestar before blurx

you can ask others to blurx your stuff

[urban quiver]

true

I’ve missed the last 3 clear nights cause I just started a new job and was exhausted

[bronze minnow]

literally everything but health

[rain void]

WHAT

[zealous cloak]

ikr

[delicate lance]

overrated ≠ bad

but the 533 in mono is said to be way better than it actually is

[rain void]

i know, but calling it overrated is still insane imo

i started with a 533 mono, and it absolutely lived up to the expectations, and much more too

[delicate lance]

you wont believe how many people said i should never get th 585 but the 533 mono because its so much better

like dawg it AINT THAT GOOD

[rain void]

IT IS

[delicate lance]

worse QE

worse reso

[rain void]

what are you talking about

[delicate lance]

only thing it got that the 585 dont is size

[rain void]

did you at least get 585 mono then?

[swift heart]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

Me waiting for Sony to drop a larger Starvis II sensor

[bronze minnow]

nooo Sunflower 😦

[swift heart]

M106 deserves it. Photogenic, great visual target, super rewarding any way your approach it

[fading flower]

Not advertising or anything, but what are your guys' thoughts on Bray Falls Cygnus Loop image?

I honestly thought that was probably one of his actually good photos (pretty rare considering all the ai looking new supernova stuff he posts usually)

[bronze minnow]

but i spent like 4 minutes making a little character out of m63 so i could draw them fighting in the finals

[swift heart]

Got a link? I can't seem to find it on astrobin

[brisk copper]

Hi

[brisk copper]

Quite obvious

[ivory mural]

i dont think anyones choosing the dslr

[urban quiver]

there I chose the dslr

[ivory mural]

other than callo ig

[brisk copper]

Tryna be different

[urban quiver]

[zealous cloak]

This reminds me of when tpastro said dslr better than 585

[sharp berry]

I love my 585

[summer turret]

💀

[stone zealot]

Lando is only 15pts away from piastri. He will win

[summer turret]

Lol

[late summit]

0 wheel knowledge

People out here forgetting that Piastri dominated the feeder series in his first year and that he scored a win before Norris

The only reason he wasn't closer last year was because he kept being forced to be the second driver and swap positions to purposely help norris

[stone zealot]

Uhhh, sorry but lando won a race before piastri

[late summit]

Bro is forgetting qatar 2023's sprint with that shitbox

[fading flower]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DLjOol_sDd2/?igsh=djM0NzA4cDVkNjNr

astrofalls

A catastrophe in slow motion, the Cygnus Loop supernova remnant!

It’s been a fantastic new moon cycle at the observatory, but now the forecast is promising rain. When the rain comes, it’s time to check what the light buckets caught!

For two weeks I’ve had my FSQ106 pointed at this object, the remains of a massive star that ran out of gas...

Likes

6124

Instagram

[zealous cloak]

looks good

too pink for my liking but at least it isnt fake

ive heard rumours this guy started processing like he does because of the NFT bullsht

kinda lame

[stone zealot]

Im talking about a full race not a sprint. But yeah oscar doesnt do much mistakes... but in austria he made too much mistakes that cost him a win

[late summit]

Norris made mistakes too, the difference is that Oscar got put in the grass by Colapinto and he got sent to pit at a bad time for traffic

And Gasly spinning at the end of Q3 forced Piastri to abort his final lap, not letting him get an actual real shot at pole

Shit happens, but that doesn't mean Norris will win the championship just because he's 15 points away

15 points is a lot when the two drivers have the same car, one of them basically needs to retire for the gap to close

[stone zealot]

I know, i mean if norris wins 2 times more while piastri getting p2 then he would be only 1 point away from piastri. Still 500th of a second is still impressive to find in his best time

[late summit]

and that's assuming Piastri doesn't win as well, and they'd still be one point apart

Norris also had upgrades in Austria that Piastri didn't btw

Lots of variables, and most of them aren't a skill difference

McLaren is doing upgrades on a switch basis, Norris gets it one race before Piastri, the next upgrade is the opposite etc

[static sapphire]

fwiw we have a #🚗-automotive channel, maybe that's better place for F1 talk

[brisk copper]

🤓

[torn gull]

❤️

https://tenor.com/view/m40-messier-40-messier-m40-my-beloved-my-beloved-gif-11820833184550888746

[bronze minnow]

the other semifinalists fighting m40 (they're gonna get absolutely destroyed)

[summer turret]

imo it depends what you have plnned in your furture rig

i got a heq5 bc i knew down the line i'd want to use my dob for imaging so i got that instead of the gti

ragdoll 17 is great but if youre not gonna save up $2.2k then look at the heq5

not sure why youre considering the SAM since youve got the better version fo that

[sharp berry]

for the funnis

[sharp berry]

It costs as much as heq not including tripod

and is cheaper than a modded heq5

(On testar)

[summer turret]

Remember to buy used

I got my HEQ5 for 900

Majority of IIS users are boomers and take really good care of stuff

[supple wraith]

I have an Heq5, and it works great!, but if I had the budget I’d totally get the am5

[sharp berry]

The ragdoll 17 is on par with the am5 and costs half as much

[sharp berry]

Remember im not allowd to 😭

[supple wraith]

Why?

[summer turret]

Ah

[sharp berry]

Parents dont gaf about how trustworthy a site is

They just think im gonna get scammed

I tried explaining to them but they said u never know

[supple wraith]

Got it. So are you also not allowed to purchase from sites like high point, or Agena?

Because I’ll often find better prices there than amazon

[sharp berry]

no

only on the Proxisky website

they have a discord server

[white roost]

If you have guiding get the am5

[summer turret]

go for the raggy17 lol

am5 is $3.8k, raggy is $2k

insane price difference and with AM5 youll need to pay shipping while for raggy its included

[sharp berry]

I know what you’ve done.

Back in 02

At the kindergarten.

[swift heart]

Wave 150i not mentioned

[marble hearth]

I'd go for the ragdoll 17 if u wanna futureproof ur setup - also has more payload capacity than the heq5

You'll also get away w not having to constantly balance ur setup 👀

[stone zealot]

Why not make ur own strainwave mount? My friends did it for 600 bucks and guiding is absolutely amazing

[marble hearth]

you absolutely can do that if youre techy and wanna deal with dome DIY

[late summit]

Can you link a guide ? I'm interested 👀

[marble hearth]

but if ur into diy and no customer support u could also get the juwei 17 which is like 1000 usd

[late summit]

and after seeing vel's problems with the am5n I'm hesitant to consider one at all ngl

[stone zealot]

I will ask my friend, he made his mounts and sold them...

[late summit]

Aaah

[stone zealot]

Yeah, will send you one if he has a guide thag me made

[bronze minnow]

finals on monday

[swift heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376159504961503304/1390135663621574827/m24-rc3.jpg?ex=68692279&is=6867d0f9&hm=5de5e7c6d82881d6a627962d749c44e6182eda5ece39c19d8ff3aac46b627f68&

(north is up here)

[supple wraith]

What could this possibly mean?

[stone zealot]

Bro still has school

[bronze minnow]

nah its bc the finals poll will last a week

and yes I do still have school ;u;

[stone zealot]

Nahhhhhh, mine ended a month ago

[bronze minnow]

mine ends in two weeks (uk)

[vagrant basin]

Yeah same 😭😭😭

[stone zealot]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k7H1DVnmELengnNnDHmjwWC9pvm5m-5o/view?usp=drivesdk

He uses HBK17 harmonoc drives, and for the stepper motor controler uses the fytech e4. Not sure for the motors

[summer turret]

bintel have discounted the HEQ5 btw

[sharp berry]

i hate bintel

[summer turret]

lol

[sharp berry]

i refunded the L extreme f2

They first told me its gonna arrive soon

[summer turret]

yae its not in stock, will need to wait like 3 weeks for it

[sharp berry]

Then after 4 months

They told us its not in production anymore

So I refunded it

And now ive waited 3 weeks

And still wairing for a refund

[summer turret]

certified bintel momet

[sharp berry]

They aint even replying to my emails

[summer turret]

remember you can report this to ACCC

[sharp berry]

fax

[summer turret]

have you tried calling them?

[sharp berry]

no

[summer turret]

try that

so i acc know someone who works at bintel. she works at the obs

[bronze minnow]

I thought this was one guy having a convo with themselves

lmao

[supple wraith]

I still get chromatic aberration even using a doublet and reducer. I usually separate the channels and re match them so every thing is lined up.

[brisk copper]

LOL

[swift heart]

SHO but green

[rain void]

SHO with HOO stars (if RGB stars is not allowed)

[rain void]

image

[ivory mural]

i cant

[rain void]

why

[ivory mural]

mount not work

[rain void]

:(

[ivory mural]

and i dont wanna do phone ap with binos

i would do widefield phone ap but moon gradient ruins that ive tried

[rain void]

narrowband phone ap

[ivory mural]

i dont even have narrowband filters

i will actually do that next month

ill do guided narrowband phone ap

[rain void]

idk what i would do without nb filters

[ivory mural]

i own one filter

uvir cut 🔥

[supple wraith]

visual with narrowband filters is something everyone needs to experience.

[swift heart]

Veil Nebula in 16" dob with a dual narrowband (7 nm) filter was probably the greatest visual observing experience I've ever had

[supple wraith]

I can only imagine.

[devout tinsel]

M40🙏

[vagrant basin]

Dead

M106💯

[bronze minnow]

only voting M106 so M40 doesn't win

[stone zealot]

Tbh M106 looks scary, thats why i call it the doomsday galaxy

[torn gull]

if m40 wins im making an m40 painting

[summer turret]

cats paw is really bright. single sub bright in broadband

[supple wraith]

I spent a solid 60s trying to figure out what a “targeg” is before realizing it was a typo.

[sharp berry]

targeg.

[stone zealot]

GEG

[ivory mural]

other allows you to do literally anything

[supple wraith]

Did Marc run out of poll ideas?

[restive fiber]

just lazy

[zealous cloak]

Poor Marc was cyberbullied out of making polls

[ivory mural]

nobody had a problem with him making polls

it was the fact that he was posting it everywhere

[zealous cloak]

He's just a guy being a dude

[summer turret]

solar imagers

[obsidian plover]

If u remove the sun I'm replacing ur scope with an uncollimatable refractor

[delicate lance]

https://tenor.com/view/community-fire-chaos-gif-11361511

[bronze minnow]

if you remove the sun im going to curse you with British winter weather

[marble hearth]

No sun = no water evaporating = no clouds :)))

[bronze minnow]

everywhere you go to do ap immediately becomes middle of a megacity b9
if you go to a new spot the same happens

[past maple]

poll

[swift heart]

Some of you may die but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make

[ivory mural]

build a really big pier

above every bortle 9 city is b0

[bronze minnow]

I said wherever you go

I mean wherever you go

you could go to the moon and a bunch of floodlights would start following you around

[ivory mural]

what if i cover them

the lights are still there

[marble hearth]

Surely without the sun the floodlights would run out of power soon enough, right?

[ivory mural]

Not before you die

[marble hearth]

I mean if I'm in the middle of nowhere, they'll have to use batteries that would normally be recharged by sun, right?

[ivory mural]

nuclear powered floodlights🤑

impossible weightless cables

they will find any way to ruin your astro forever

[marble hearth]

I'll build a space telescope that moves at a significant % of the speed of light for the light from the floodlights to blue/redshift enough to not be detected by my astro filters

[bronze minnow]

higher energy light gets shifted up ir down to still blind you

[bronze minnow]

you can't cover the lights if they keep moving

[ivory mural]

glue

[bronze minnow]

the sheer amount of light being emitted breaks down the polymers, setting the floodlights free

and before you ask, the lights cannot break themselves down

or any wire/component that would power them

[ivory mural]

what if i politely ask them to shine in a different direction

everyone asks how can i get rid of the lights, but not how are the lights

[marble hearth]

I'll use a mirror to redirect the light elsewhere

[bronze minnow]

the light will always be redirected to whatever your target is, no matter the direction of the mirror, even if you try to shoot something else the mirrors will just point the light there instead

[bronze minnow]

they tell you they're getting paid too much to not do this (source: i pay them 100 AA lithium batteries a day)

[ivory mural]

they're being consumed by greed

they never see their children again

for money

[bronze minnow]

fun fact: I cloned them
the real ones are chilling with their families
they get paid because of the cloning

[ivory mural]

so the clones are unpaid

[bronze minnow]

the clones are technically the original as they are the same down to an atomic level

[urban quiver]

Deep Space Pics - Quantity
Hall of Fame - Quality
Planetary - copy and pasted
Milky Way - idk. who cares

[obsidian plover]

Solar chat smh

[marble hearth]

Mw will either be average or one of the best pics you've ever seen, no in between

[urban quiver]

I won’t lie, I think I took one of the images from there and made it my wallpaper on my MacBook

[marble hearth]

At least tell the person who took the photo this - I'm sure theyll be happy for the compliment 😩

[urban quiver]

it was a while ago so I forgot 😭

I use a JWST image now actually

[marble hearth]

I just use a render of a galaxy lol

[delicate lance]

SV220

[summer turret]

svboner

[delicate lance]

It’s better than the L-Extreme at least

[sharp berry]

Do you know anywhere in Australia that sells svbony?

[summer turret]

amazon

[sharp berry]

They all take forever to ship

fastest one is only for 1.25”

[delicate lance]

It’s a very common filter, no redistributors in Australia?

SVBony also delivers from their official site afaik

[sharp berry]

Only on amazon

fastest for the 2” version is by august

[delicate lance]

Maybe any aliexpress redistributors?

[sharp berry]

Not sure

[ivory mural]

celestron!

[late summit]

Someone actually voted svbony? 💀

[delicate lance]

do we ignore the guy who voted zwo

[urban quiver]

I like my SVBONY guide camera

[late summit]

ZWO might be overpriced but at least their cameras aren't cheaply made like that

[late summit]

I bought a sv705c for planetary a few days ago, 50% off at 200€

[urban quiver]

I’ve heard they use the reject sensors from Sony

[late summit]

You heard wrong, they use lesser quality sensors but not rejects

Not noticeable by anyone in images, though, the differences will only really be seen in numbers when you test them

[delicate lance]

ZWO being the front of cameras is dissapointing and ruins astrophotography

many people see their prices and think

"this good, this expensive, i cant afford camera"

[late summit]

Yeah that's a decent issue when people come into this hobby ngl

I thought I'd never own an astrocam because I saw ZWO's prices too

That didn't stop me from dropping 1k on a mono kit though...

[delicate lance]

seeing this when googling astrocamera is depressing

[late summit]

yeah, 700€ for a 585 colour is a bit depressing

for nearly the same price you get touptek's mono kit and the minicam

[delicate lance]

This is what the ZWO version of the ToupTek kit costs

That is 2.344,80 USD.

[late summit]

💀

[delicate lance]

2.5x the price of touptek's bundle

[late summit]

There's someone here who has to pay that much to go mono because they're on asiair, it's unfortunate

Asiair wouldn't even be that bad of an option for most people if they allowed third party astro cameras, eaf's and afw's

[delicate lance]

AsiAir losts it function now

NINA got its own mobile phone app now

[late summit]

Really?

[urban quiver]

It has 2 actually

[late summit]

What are they called

[delicate lance]

Cygnus Astro

[late summit]

this is nina??

[delicate lance]

Yes

connect your phone with the app with a pc with nina and you can control it

afaik you can go to bed, the app can give a notification if something went wrong and you can correct it in bed

[urban quiver]

And Touch N stars

Which has an IOS and Android app now

[late summit]

that's kind of peak...

[urban quiver]

I haven’t used either tbh

[late summit]

It'll give my ipad a bit more use

[urban quiver]

I can’t get them to work

I haven’t seen the differences between Cygnus and Touch

[delicate lance]

Do you have the Advanced API Plugin?

[delicate lance]

Besides that, the ToupTek Stellavita is better anyway

[late summit]

Cygnus Astro uses N.I.N.A. PC software and the N.I.N.A. Advanced API plugin to communicate with your PC

[urban quiver]

Yea

[late summit]

Does it run proprietary software or can you use NINA / your preferred software?

[delicate lance]

Proprietary afaik

[urban quiver]

I think it runs a version of Ekos? Not sure

[delicate lance]

but it is compatible with everything basically

[late summit]

• Perform your Three-Point Polar Alignment without having to hold your laptop
  Okay now this is peak af

My biggest issue with taking things outside is having to have my laptop on hand or on the floor

If I get a minipc and cygnus, it won't be an issue anymore

[late summit]

Goated

[delicate lance]

Why it is only compatible with the SC715C specifically? I have no idea

[late summit]

stellavita isn't that expensive either

[late summit]

But still, I prefer to be able to control everything

[delicate lance]

Literally ASIair but without all the bullshit from ZWO

[urban quiver]

I’m thinking of buying a new mini pc. I’m afraid of the fans in my intel NUC messing with my tracking

[late summit]

Good idea

[urban quiver]

But with like twice the bugs no?

Wasn’t the stellavita like half broken when it launched

[late summit]

I remember stellavita being buggy but that's probably the first few versions

I doubt it's still bad nowadays

[urban quiver]

I’d rather use NINA tbh

[late summit]

Me too

I know how nina works and I have all my things saved there

Nina + minipc + Cygnus looks like a crazy good combo

[urban quiver]

Is there a way to export A NINA profile?

like all my Plugins and settings

[vagrant basin]

Bro idk abt cameras ill just use my phone for ap

[delicate lance]

if you think ZWO makes the best cameras you need to rethink your life choices
if youre not sure just vote player-one

@static sapphire What in the flippidangitiyahsdheas are you doing

[late summit]

settings yes plugins on their own not sure

[delicate lance]

voting ZWO!?!??!?!

[vagrant basin]

Ehh i dunno i follow what people say

[late summit]

But I assume that if you export your profile and have the plugins installed elsewhere, the plugin's settings will also be copied over

[urban quiver]

I’m too lazy to set up NINA on my NUC lol

[ivory mural]

why not bring a chair outside

[late summit]

The point is that I don't want to have a laptop connected to my rig to control it

I don't have a backyard so I have to set up in the street

[urban quiver]

That’s what I use

A chair for me, and a chair for my laptop

[ivory mural]

I use 1 chair

I put the laptop on the chair when im inside and i put it on my lap when im outside

Or i just lean over the back of the chair

[urban quiver]

my track pad broke because it was outside and got dewy Lol

[zealous cloak]

As a zwo user, I wish I had bought the poseidon m instead of the 2600mm

ZWO suuucks

[delicate lance]

the poseidon m is so HOT

[sharp berry]

player one doesn’t really exist in australia sadly

[late summit]

You can buy from their website, that's what most people do

[zealous cloak]

australia doesnt exist

[sharp berry]

💔💔💔

I hope your eq6r pro explodes

[zealous cloak]

i hope my ed80 explodes

[obsidian plover]

gonna be honest the zwo 571 looks much better but poseidon is better

[sharp berry]

I love you kinda

[ivory mural]

youre saying red cylinder looks better than this?

[obsidian plover]

it looks much better yes

[sharp berry]

Yes

[summer turret]

Lol

[delicate lance]

Nah

If it had the red metallic look, maybe

But nah

[obsidian plover]

the front is larger than the body which looks so tacky

[delicate lance]

Astro there’s one thing you need to consider

You don’t need local suppliers to buy stuff. You can buy svbony, player one, touptek, ZWO and QHY from their website for often cheaper than the distributor‘s price, from basically anywhere on the globe.

[sharp berry]

Yes ig

[delicate lance]

If I were to ignore companies that don’t really „exist“ around here I wouldn’t have 90% of my setup

[fallen obsidian]

F/2 🤤

[urban quiver]

Yea but I plan on using it with my L-enhance, which means I can’t use the F/2

[fallen obsidian]

Ca?

[urban quiver]

Huh

The L-enhance filter isn’t meant for fast scopes/lens

[fallen obsidian]

Oh

[urban quiver]

What’s with the love for the roki over FMA180 Pro

[delicate lance]

You have an ASI533MC Pro?

my condolences

[urban quiver]

why

Tf

[delicate lance]

overpriced piece of ZWO

[urban quiver]

I got it for $450 including a ZWO Filter drawer and L-enhance

[delicate lance]

oh then i take it back, heartfully

[urban quiver]

yea no way I’d get a better deal

and I love the square

[urban quiver]

Astro club deals are insane. Club member upgraded to mono so he didn’t need it. Took pity on me for being a poor college student

[delicate lance]

Deals on astro meets arent bad either

got my HEQ5 for 300 bucks

[urban quiver]

Idk what that is

[delicate lance]

in caveman terms:

man look on internet

man find good place to image

man rent place

man invite other people to do astro with them in rented place

other people join

man gets a little money

other people socialize

[urban quiver]

interesting

[delicate lance]

so basically just someone rents a camping place and people camp and do astro together

[ivory mural]

you guys are so lucky to have astro clubs and meets

[urban quiver]

I haven’t gone to any meets for my club lol

I’m too busy for the star parties

I’m surprised your city doesn’t have one

[ivory mural]

star parties and astro clubs dont exist for me

i wish they ddi

[urban quiver]

Make one

problem solved

[ivory mural]

for who?

nobody does astro

id be alone lmao

[supple wraith]

Solar setup, I already have one for deep sky, planets, moon, widefield. I need a proper solar rig.

[ivory mural]

my main setup is deepsky

and planets too i guess but i need a bigger scope

second setup would be widefield like nebulae

rn for ultra widefield milky way i use my phone

[urban quiver]

So what would you need for a second rig?

Only a scope? Do that lmao

[ivory mural]

the cam sucks

its a mono guidecam

[urban quiver]

I wouldnt consider you even having a cam then

[ivory mural]

i have a solar filter for my 60mm guidescope i guess but that setup isnt very good

i dont really like white light solar

[obsidian plover]

The bandpass of three l-enhance is so wide it probably doesn't matter

My lextreeme isn't that bad at f2.8

[urban quiver]

Isn’t a wide bandpass bad

[obsidian plover]

The wider the bandpass the less ite affected by the shift that comes with f2

So likely wouldn't matter whole lot

[sharp berry]

ROKINON MENTIONED

[urban quiver]

Is the L-enhance a bad filter? I keep hearing people say “should’ve gotten the SV220”

[obsidian plover]

it isnt bad its bandpass is just decently large

[fading dust]

drop the rig

what do you already have

[ivory mural]

imx585 color, eqm35, guider, f/4 150mm newt

well i dont have the newt yet but i bought it yesterday, rn i have a really bad f/5 150mm newt

[urban quiver]

It’s not bad newt 😡

[ivory mural]

for ap, yes it is

[urban quiver]

ur the one who’s bad for using it for something it’s not designed for

[ivory mural]

it was my only choice

[supple wraith]

Does that offend you???

[urban quiver]

yes

that’s my scope he’s using

[supple wraith]

Damn...

[urban quiver]

Skywatcher heritage 150p my first scope

[supple wraith]

It's a 6" so imaging is totally doable, but trying to do any ap on it that's not planetary you'd have a bad time.

[urban quiver]

I know

[supple wraith]

the fact it's tabletop is nice though

[urban quiver]

That’s why I don’t use it for imaging

[supple wraith]

NICEEE

that's not too heavy?

[urban quiver]

It’s within the payload capacity

But I got no clue how il balance without rings

And the focuser sucks for AP lol

Il use it for planetary once planets are more available

[supple wraith]

Maybe just buy rings separately

what type of focuser does it have?

[urban quiver]

shitty helical

And since it’s a truss tube, it can’t hold much weight

Il use it for planetary only. And probably on a table not the gti

I only did it for the meme really

[supple wraith]

I mean if it works with the gti go for it, the mount tracks pretty well.

[ivory mural]

doable? yeah i guess

painful? absolutely

[cedar dome]

May have lost the star

[bronze minnow]

.

[devout tinsel]

M40🙏

M40 emoji🙏

[static sapphire]

on it

We have a new emoji, the winner of the "What's the best Messier object" Poll in #1379949653990309978... Presenting Messier 40!

[devout tinsel]

New best emoji

[swift heart]

It's a pair of judgemental eyes in the dark

[summer turret]

i retake flats whenever i need to otherwise i keep reusing them

[delicate lance]

I have not used any calibration frames to this date

[sharp berry]

Never

[glacial bear]

https://tenor.com/view/newt-rally-newt-rally-lgmbldm-gif-18173971

[marble hearth]

Mirrors for photons, glass for sexiness 🤤

[ivory mural]

one isn't better than the other, they're for different use cases

[torn gull]

https://tenor.com/view/m40-messier-40-messier-m40-my-beloved-my-beloved-gif-11820833184550888746

[undone sinew]

you cannot be serious bro

[swift heart]

Two hyperbolic mirrors are all you need

[supple wraith]

A very divisive topic…

[urban quiver]

Neptune is the OG

[cold moon]

It was discovered later on 😭

[urban quiver]

Don’t care 😴

[swift heart]

Technically Galileo did see Neptune

[delicate lance]

so close#

[delicate lance]

its treason then

[void jolt]

type your answer

[zealous cloak]

your answer

[tidal tundra]

I’ve used the same dark and bias frame for a year now

[marble hearth]

4. Oo-rah-nus

[obsidian plover]

My heater is working very well Rn

Haven't touched the ac since march

[stone zealot]

My ac dont exist

[void jolt]

europe moment

[stone zealot]

Nahh honestly my house doesnt have AC, i just open the windows during the night for it to cool down and then close everything up during the day and it stays pretty cold inside

[void jolt]

aint even that cold at night and it heats right back up as soon as the sun is out

literal hell

[bronze minnow]

[bronze minnow]

what about "urine-us"

[delicate lance]

zats the 3rd option boss

[bronze minnow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407264700006420/805259244630835260/image0.gif

[delicate lance]

the poor car

[sudden locust]

The temperature of my room sits at a very comfortable 30 °C.

[bronze minnow]

yall got ac|?

[sudden locust]

Quite so.

[supple wraith]

Ur-uh-nus

[delicate lance]

jus choose the one thats most similar to however you say it rahh

[stone zealot]

I mean for me during the night it can hit like maybe 22 degrees so its good enough

[stone zealot]

BRO, U MUST BE SWEATING FROM THAT HEAT, THATS ALREADY TOO WARM

[stone zealot]

I aint, i got those little fans that you hand up on the wall

[void jolt]

with the humidity being the cherry on top

[bronze minnow]

ion even got fans

[bronze minnow]

22C (indoors, 18 outside) but it's 89% humidity 😭

[stone zealot]

Bro lives on the arctic😭

[obsidian plover]

U guys dying at 30 is almost silly 😭

[delicate lance]

dude you live on the sun

[obsidian plover]

5000 degrees is a winter day

[torn gull]

it went to around 105 at noon

40 celsius for others

i love nyc

❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[void jolt]

its the goddamn humidity

[sharp berry]

Excuses excuses

[bronze minnow]

13C at 12am

[bronze minnow]

the humidity adds like 10c vro

[marble hearth]

Duh that's why it's colder at night

[stone zealot]

Im dying at 37😭

[delicate lance]

for background info i alr have a 130PDS on a HEQ5 with a planetary cam

[delicate lance]

msut correct, its 750 USD for the C8 and its used
the monochrome set would be new

[delicate lance]

(and id get a monochrome camera anyhow, just when is the question)

[obsidian plover]

Gotta go to marble Bar in Aussie land

[delicate lance]

aaaaaaaaaa

[delicate lance]

this shit is confusing

i rlly want a planetary scope

but that would make the cam come later

right now i still got the IMX664

[supple wraith]

If you want a planetary scope get a planetary scope, you could also go for a less expensive ota like a newtonian instead of an sct.

[glacial bear]

[delicate lance]

Doesn’t come with all the accessories nor is as light

[glacial bear]

"Proof that God has a sense of humor is putting all the astronomers in the Northern hemisphere and all the really good targets in the Southern hemisphere."

Forgot who said it but it's been said.

[obsidian plover]

Me when Cygnus, gecko, ghost of cep whatever the name is, bubble, pleiades, veil ect 😭

And like all of Taurus at a decent height

[marble hearth]

Equator mfers have it best

[undone sinew]

Bro this poll is turning out way different than what i expected

The southern hemisphere is not that good bro

[ivory mural]

Yes it is

I'd give up all my northern hemisphere benefits for a southern sky

[undone sinew]

get rid of the carina nebula and both magellanic clouds and you’re left with nothing

[delicate lance]

centaurus A

Helix

lets see

[undone sinew]

Helix is southern?

[delicate lance]

sagi star cloud

[delicate lance]

more like equator but mostly southern

[undone sinew]

Cause im in europe and can still see it well above the horizon

[delicate lance]

HELIX? nawr

its very very low#

[delicate lance]

if you have light pollution or any obstruction you cant image it

[undone sinew]

Yeah but its still there

You can technically still look at it and image it, just not that insanely well

[delicate lance]

omega centauri
Coalsack Nebula
Sculptor
47 Tucanae

and i know these as a non-southerner

[undone sinew]

tf is coalsack nebula

[delicate lance]

dark nebula

C99, if shot well its PEAK

[ivory mural]

id still prefer southern

"left with nothing" is the biggest overstatement ever

[vagrant basin]

Northern hemisphere peak for planetary nebula and galaxies but ive never experienced southern

[delicate lance]

vote chat

[marble hearth]

Has the weather forecast not taught you that praying does NOT work in this hobby 😭 🙏

[delicate lance]

oh right

[obsidian plover]

Honestly mono will do so much more for u than a new scope

[delicate lance]

the plan is

get that shit now so it dont run away

use it for planets at most since my HEQ5 will scream for help under it

once i get my mono setup ill sell a fixed EXOS-2 I have laying around with my unused OnStep, current planetary cam and 130PDS and buy an EQ6r Pro or NEQ6 from that money

and then ill have an ATR585M with a 10'' imaging newtonian on an EQ6

[marble hearth]

Wouldn't u rather get a hamornic mount for that price?

[delicate lance]

idk if ill find one used but if i could i would

[marble hearth]

There are some really nice options from Proxisky in the smwe price range

[delicate lance]

but zats a future problem

[sharp berry]

Haha too bad im doing sgr star cloud

[sharp berry]

0/10 ragebait

[glacial bear]

You can't set a camera on a nothing to image.

[delicate lance]

I got a 130pds and HEQ5 so I can in fact image

[undone sinew]

theres a reason all of you southerners have the carina nebula as your pfp because the carina nebula is like the only good nebula there

[summer turret]

we just do it because its funny

[delicate lance]

have you been there big man

[undone sinew]

All the people from the north that voted the south being better are just starved for new targets

[delicate lance]

dragons of ara:

[undone sinew]

Oh yeah that

i forgot

[summer turret]

litterally the MCs

[sharp berry]

No

You dont understand the lore

[summer turret]

Lol

[obsidian plover]

Vela my beloved

[obsidian plover]

That's like 1/6th of it

[zealous cloak]

We got cygnus

Or can you see it from the south

[obsidian plover]

I can see nan at about 3deg alt and the rest is slightly higher, veil is 20deg Max

[glacial bear]

If you had the camera and no 130PDS it would be quite a challenge to image is what I’m saying

[delicate lance]

wa

i have a 130PDS

so i can definetly image since id have a camera, mount and ota lol

[glacial bear]

OH!!

https://tenor.com/view/dogs-funny-animals-pheven-steven-tongue-gif-3633704481812477152

[delicate lance]

yea

[delicate lance]

did i mention the 10'' is a carbon-truss style

[glacial bear]

What's the question?

[white roost]

For you to decide

[brisk copper]

Mrrow :3

[proud quarry]

:3

gang

[delicate lance]

i prefer °^°

[brisk copper]

thats silly :3

[zealous cloak]

[swift heart]

There is but one correct answer and I'm proud to see it in the lead.

The rest of y'all are heretics

[ivory mural]

only two acceptable answers

newt and rc

[devout tinsel]

RASA

Large field and unreal F ratio

[ivory mural]

f/3 noot

[obsidian plover]

and soft af 😭

[stone zealot]

WHEN I STARTED ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY I WAS LOW BORTLE 4 AND NOW IM BORTLE 6 BCS OF STUPID CONSTRUCTION AND MY NEIGHBOR THAT HAS ALL OF THE OUTSIDE LIGHTS ON EVERY NIGHT

I can barely see the milkyway😭💔

[sudden locust]

Where is the Schmidt camera?

Bad poll.

[brisk copper]

wheres the 3-6 option?

[brisk copper]

frr

[swift heart]

If the Korsch telescope was on there I may have considered it too

[hybrid echo]

where tma

[ivory mural]

rct with a diagonal, you dont get the a part

[restive fiber]

L

[past maple]

l