Polls 3.0

[frosty coyote]

If you have $10,000 then why are you not going mono

The setup is 8" F/6 Newtonian on EQ tracking mount, ZWO ASI120MC-S planetary cam, and 3x barlow. (1200mm native, 3600mm with barlow)

my only concerns are how hard it is to find in a finderscope

[gusty jungle]

wheres noise in general

like thats like the entire reason people spend money on equipment

[acoustic iron]

noise is like the atmosphere

its just there

[gusty jungle]

and thats lame

[agile cloak]

Get a new mount and a new scope (will still keep my current scope) and save the rest

Also prolly go mono lol

[sage herald]

@frosty coyote light sails take longer than a rusion engine.

[frosty coyote]

you gave me the option so that's what I'm voting

[sage herald]

ok

[coarse obsidian]

warp drive is obv but light sails sound dope asf

like sailing the high voids w my mateys

[stuck lily]

don't you have to make the sail weigh like 5 grams for it to get to relativistic speeds

[visual verge]

not enough money

I value visual observing over AP

So getting a whole set of top end eyepieces would be really cool

[mortal sonnet]

A man of culture I see

[gusty jungle]

what in the heck is the tupperbox bot

[jagged igloo]

https://tupperbox.app/

[gusty jungle]

ok, birds adorb can you answer this

[gusty jungle]

why in gods name would we roleplay on an astrophotography server

[sage herald]

lol

[spiral parcel]

i already have pluralkit set up, why dont we use that

[sage herald]

What is pluralkit?

[spiral parcel]

similar thing but more popular i believe

[sage herald]

Show me

[spiral parcel]

how

[sage herald]

What does the bot look like?

[sage herald]

the environment seems fragmented.

[spiral parcel]

wdym by environment seems fragmented?

[sage herald]

like the genre

[spiral parcel]

what?

explain stupider

[spiral parcel]

ohhh

wdym by genre?

[sage herald]

idk

[spiral parcel]

😭

it quite popular in the lgbtq community

im ngl

[sage herald]

It is bias on what types of servers we are in.

[spiral parcel]

what

im confused

heres all my servers :3

viossa has gone trans for some reason

[sage herald]

idk, Because June is getting closer.

[earnest quarry]

@jagged igloo why did you use your alt to vote lmfao

[scarlet mica]

since when can you see who votes? i thought that was anonymous

this changes everything for me

[frosty coyote]

if you hover your mouse over each option where it says "[insert number] votes" it will show who voted that option

[scarlet mica]

I will never vote in certain polls again, I thought they were anonymous...

[frosty coyote]

who cares if others see what you vote

[scarlet mica]

I have my sources

[mortal sonnet]

Too late, you are already in some sort of watchlist

[copper sparrow]

Very important question

[mortal sonnet]

No because they wouldn't understand what you are showing them

[copper sparrow]

you are boring

[visual verge]

nice mutual server btw

[tulip halo]

I don't speak American I'm with my great British sterling

[stuck lily]

wait what i thought sword had an heq5

how is that >500

[eternal topaz]

Idk what it is in usd

[modest sage]

Where is the $10k+ option

[stuck lily]

$5000+

[copper sigil]

Just choose 5k+ I guess I wasn’t expecting people to have that expensive setups.

[modest sage]

Suppose the majority of people have more than one braincell designated to financial decisions.

[frosty coyote]

New cost for everything or do used deals count?

[frosty coyote]

LEDs are much more energy efficient than sodium lights so switching back would just cost a lot of money when you could just limit the amount and direction of the LEDs

[visual verge]

sodium lights are much easier to cut off your photos with broadband filters

[frosty coyote]

I am aware

[visual verge]

but I guess when you design them correctly, it won't matter

since the only source of light pollution then would be the reflection from the ground, which has basically the same wavelength no matter the lighting technology

[copper sigil]

Used deals count

[inner pine]

I luuuv gambling 🤑 🤑 💸 💰

fun fact: you can win 1000% of your money from gambling, but only lose 100% 🤑 🤑 🤑 💰 💰 💸

[velvet shore]

Get a job to buy it yourself.

[mortal sonnet]

Winner mentality

[earnest quarry]

haha funny joke

i'm 14, got booted from mcdonalds because the michigan labor laws didn't allow me to work decent hours

i have the money but they won't let me buy it

[jagged igloo]

Learn stock trading

[earnest quarry]

i'm doing that now ngl

[velvet shore]

So get hired somewhere else?

[earnest quarry]

i just said that the michigan labor laws don't allow me to be able to get a job with decent working hours

[copper sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/raxdflipnote-meme-gif-3914937335619787342

[velvet shore]

How long until you can?

[earnest quarry]

a year

[copper sparrow]

Oh no! Child Labor Protection Laws! How horrible

14 years old should be forced to work 15 hour shifts at McDonalds!!

[earnest quarry]

I’m homeschooled yet I still have to abide by school hours

So I can only work 2.5 hours on a school day instead of 7 or 8

[copper sparrow]

uhhhh

Good?

[earnest quarry]

How is that good

[copper sparrow]

You are homeschooled yet have time for a 7 hour shift ? what they teachin you

[earnest quarry]

Yeah I have time for a 7 hour shift twice a week

“Oh you in college and time for a job? What they teaching you”

[copper sparrow]

yea i dont have time for a job in college 😢

actually my major basically requires me to work for free for half a semester

[earnest quarry]

Well there are millions of college kids that need a job to live

[copper sparrow]

luckily i have the power of tens of thousands of dollars in student loans

[scarlet mica]

Just wait until they're in their 20s wishing they enjoyed their early teens instead of trying to work

[modest sage]

People care about light pollution, not astrophotography. Wildlife and stuff is a lot more important than some sweaty nerds.

[velvet shore]

I’ve never had regrets of getting a job, I love having money.

If you don’t have a job how do you afford your gear?

[eternal topaz]

you give mum and dad the 🥺

[copper sparrow]

UNEMPLOYMENT BABY WOOOOHOOO

[quiet pilot]

Gae

Have you ever worked

[eternal topaz]

Yes

I used to earn $30/month

[quiet pilot]

L

Doing what

[earnest quarry]

Selling farm animals, which my parents let me take a cut of

[frosty coyote]

blud thinks he can gather mass amounts of personal information smh

[earnest quarry]

eh, it's not too personal

plus many people have already revealed their age

[exotic gyro]

as a 0 and year old, I am personally offended that my age is not up there

[earnest quarry]

[visual verge]

but according to the laws of physics? then near infrared and nothing longer (because of angular resolution and CA of the lens in my eye)

if the resolution stays the same regardless, probably radio waves

although tbh I would probably get blinded by all of the radio around me

time to wear radio ND filters

[indigo cape]

where is the "no" option

[velvet shore]

The option to not answer the poll.

[velvet shore]

Nah I’m just curious as to this servers age range.

[indigo cape]

im guessing the next poll is our location

[gusty jungle]

hes 15 lol

[velvet shore]

How’d you know?

[indigo cape]

of course you say it

[gusty jungle]

yes because i am a bad person

[earnest quarry]

[stuck lily]

why is the first two options there

ban anyone who votes it ig

[copper sparrow]

ban bait lmaooo

[eternal topaz]

this is #1326261767860519015

[visual verge]

if you're 13 then you won't get banned (with the 2nd option)

[earnest quarry]

@stray barn no 😭

[exotic gyro]

I should remove the telrad option unless someone proves me otherwise

[stuck lily]

sv165

then you can do whatever you want and even use it as a guider in the future

it can take the same eyepieces your dob does

[stuck lily]

birds_adorb voted yes😭

[velvet shore]

Just curious because the time of year, and skies vary.

[exotic gyro]

I live in Antarctica, You're a disgrace to our continent

[stuck lily]

mrhuman collecting data about us

[exotic gyro]

What next "What is your IP address?"

[stuck lily]

did m42 fail or are you just doing it again

[earnest quarry]

Just doing it again, getting more exposure ig

[stuck lily]

horsehead then

[earnest quarry]

Also as far as rosette, I don't have a goto so forget about that

[stuck lily]

better to shoot something you haven't shot since orion is starting to leave

[earnest quarry]

I have an unmodded dslr though, if that changes anything

[stuck lily]

both horsehead and rosette are very much affected by unmodded dslr

witch head is pretty dim i think

[earnest quarry]

so should I go for it or no?

[stuck lily]

i skipped the dslr stage, im not sure how horsehead will look unmodded

i don't really know if it'll be worth it

not rosette tho, thats even harder

[earnest quarry]

Probably won't tbh

I'll probably do witch head ngl

[stuck lily]

id say see how bright witch head is then see how bright horse head is and shoot whichever is brighter

Like in a single sub

[frosty coyote]

Optical finderscope all the way. For big dobs like that, having a magnified finderscope is crucial

[velvet shore]

Rosette is actually rather bright, you likely wouldn't have to hard of a time getting it without goto.

[velvet shore]

Are you offering?

[exotic gyro]

heck no

[exotic gyro]

i was thinking either 6x30 or 9x50

[frosty coyote]

bigger is better

I have a 9x50 and I like it a lot

[exotic gyro]

ok

I'm definitely gonna need the magnification for my M3 project

[earnest quarry]

192.168.1.1

[velvet shore]

That's a private ip, and basically is useless unless I get a public ip.

[earnest quarry]

You don't say?

[sage herald]

poll is open for 5 more days.

[earnest quarry]

I have fulfilled my oath, I'll drop the image soon

[frosty coyote]

I really didn't ask

[scarlet mica]

It is the polls thread, don't gotta be a dick

[mortal sonnet]

Me doing this so my votes are literally meaningless

[mortal sonnet]

Btw @exotic gyro this is wrong, don't get a telrad for the 10", optical finders are the way

[candid salmon]

even better if I could switch between them

[stuck lily]

even for my 750mm fl scope a red dot is a pain

[mortal sonnet]

I did visual with a C8 (2000mm), a red dot would be absolutely pain

I had a 8x50 and it was just fine with it

[visual verge]

Then I guess if you had lika a C11, a small refractor could be used

not just as a finder scope but also just as your second telescope

[mortal sonnet]

What about the opposite

[visual verge]

zipties

[mortal sonnet]

Wait lemme find the image

[visual verge]

or duct tape

because why not

[frigid heart]

I've used Telrads, lasers, red dots, and finderscope with my C8 without issue. Obviously red dots are inferior to Telrads, but it's usable enough

[mortal sonnet]

C8 as a finder scope

[visual verge]

Dude that is so cursed

and useless

[frigid heart]

Exactly. Use it as a guide scope

[visual verge]

like doesn't that C8 have the same fl as that refractor?

[mortal sonnet]

Probably less otherwise it makes no sense

[frigid heart]

well if I had this setup I'd definitely use the refractor as the finder

[mortal sonnet]

Maybe it's reduced or something

[stuck lily]

im sending this to cursed setups

[exotic gyro]

good, thats what I was thinking, ill either get the 9x50 or the 8x50

[frigid heart]

@mortal sonnet Do you use a straight through or RACI finder

[mortal sonnet]

Mine was a straight through

[jagged igloo]

What is the point.

[jagged igloo]

You can

[stuck lily]

none

[mortal sonnet]

I'm sure there's a point, you don't spend 1500$ on a finder for no reason

The big 70" dob uses a C8 too, I guess the long native FL is nice for this stuff

[velvet shore]

If you’re struggling to find a use for your C8 I’ll help you take it off your hands.

[mortal sonnet]

You are interested in it?

[copper sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/delivery-gif-25942421

[exotic gyro]

big liability if someone's bird or a bird gets a little too close

[copper sparrow]

Hmmm I’m not sure if a bird would get near a drone. I’d think they’d fly away

They are loud

[exotic gyro]

true, did not think about that, but then again, pigeons are not scared of anything

[copper sparrow]

true they’d become normal to them like people

[velvet shore]

It’s just be like planes, or helicopters, and won’t be a large issue.

[quiet pilot]

Australia so uptight that 3 guys got like 20k fines each for getting a sausage from a department store with a drone

[frosty coyote]

I didn't have one

[exotic gyro]

9 days

[indigo cape]

spring break?

[winged void]

whats a spring break

[gusty jungle]

american thing i guess, we get a week off around march-early april

[indigo cape]

lucky

[quiet pilot]

We get like 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 2 weeks, 8 weeks

After end of each term

[gusty jungle]

wtf

[quiet pilot]

What?

[gusty jungle]

we get 2 weeks for christmas and no breaks until now, wack

[quiet pilot]

lol

[gusty jungle]

i guess we put those weeks into summer

[quiet pilot]

Gtg at school

[agile cloak]

3 weeks

[copper sigil]

My breaks in order:
December Break (12 days)
February Break (9 days)
April Break (9 days)
Summer Break (~70 days)

[tulip halo]

Yeah same

[agile cloak]

Nice

[inner pine]

imagine having school

[agile cloak]

Fr

[random tartan]

You forgot the "What's Spring Break" option

[desert cobalt]

My breaks in order
October (9 days)
December January (14 days)
February (9 days)
April (9 days)
May (7 days)
Full summer

[candid salmon]

both

a week in Feb
2 weeks in Apr

[sage herald]

The poll is open for 21 hours.

[agile cloak]

OMG

😱

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-5991920615405934389

[frigid heart]

I HATE DAYLIGHT SPECTRUM OUTDOOR LIGHTING, MAKE IT STOP

[copper sparrow]

We should ban every light source. Total darkness

Fire? Banned.
Flashlight? Banned.
LED? Banned.
Street Lights? You guessed it, banned.

[frigid heart]

Based take

[jagged igloo]

That only applies to street lights and other outdoor lights.

[stuck lily]

Ban the sun

Biggest light pollutor

[copper sparrow]

no

EVERYTHING

[sudden wave]

it would help wilde life alot

and also (probably) improve our sleep

[eternal topaz]

next to a pool

[exotic gyro]

so deck

[eternal topaz]

sure

[velvet shore]

It could also be in his yard, or on a patio.

[exotic gyro]

could, I was just assuming pool deck

[velvet shore]

Send a deck pic.

[eternal topaz]

How longs your imaging platform?

[exotic gyro]

sending a balcony pic

[velvet shore]

Mines a pretty average length, and not too long that I don’t know where to put my scope. But not so short as to where it won’t fit.

[modest sage]

Colour accuracy sucks, and they are generally less efficient.

Have you ever tried to see colour under a LPS lamp lmao

There is zero colour. None at all. You have no hope of telling anything apart.

[quiet pilot]

same bro

this used to be my setup

[eternal topaz]

I used to be dslr on a tripod

[quiet pilot]

rip to the good old days when my images only brought happiness

when being asleep at 10 was late

[frosty coyote]

@agile cloak should send a pic of his balcony setup

[agile cloak]

I will next time I image

Do yall want a balcony reveal or sum

😭

@frosty coyote

Doesn’t rlly show my balcony but ye

I think u can get an idea of what it is like lol

[frosty coyote]

how do you even image stuff bruh

[earnest quarry]

You can send your rig to me and I'll be a mini starfront for you

B2 skies, (almost) full view of the sky, free

-# with a side of clouds 75% of the time

[agile cloak]

Bro plssss

I would legit love that

[agile cloak]

I DONT CAREEE

PLSSS

[agile cloak]

I have another side which has much more of the sky

Let’s me image Cygnus for like 3 hours or so

I should be fine

[frosty coyote]

here, take some of mine

[earnest quarry]

I'll ask my mom

[agile cloak]

Thx

[agile cloak]

Alr

[agile cloak]

Wait, while ur at it, can u ask her to adopt me?

[earnest quarry]

[agile cloak]

U don’t understand how much I would cook in b2

Even in b5 I was unstoppable

[frosty coyote]

man I can't wait till I get my askar 71f

[earnest quarry]

i will say this, she'll probably say no

||and not to accuse myself, but you probably shouldnt send your rig to strangers on the internet||

[frosty coyote]

you know dubai was joking right?

or was he

https://tenor.com/view/vsauce-gif-14267994213265166085

[agile cloak]

[agile cloak]

Yessir

Bro ur so lucky for b4

[frosty coyote]

probably closer to b5 but ye

[agile cloak]

Whatever

Even that is good

[frosty coyote]

I can't even imagine what b1 would look like

[earnest quarry]

i suck at recognizing sarcasm sometimes

[agile cloak]

Nah adopt me

[earnest quarry]

[stuck lily]

send it to me, I'm in cloudy b7 skies and i will sell your rig when i receive it😼

[copper sparrow]

Just one little push…..

[earnest quarry]

what was your rig again?

i know you have a redcat 51

but other than that what is it

and GTi

[copper sparrow]

Nice choice!!

[frosty coyote]

The main reason I chose the 71f is because I love the FOV. It's a good mix between detail and widefield, and also the available reducer gives more options as well

[copper sparrow]

Are you getting the reducer too?

[frosty coyote]

not at first but I definitely will in the future

I gotta sell some stuff so I can afford the scope though lol

[copper sparrow]

Yea Same, il get it eventually. the focal length is nice, although it’s a bit slow.

[agile cloak]

QHY533c camera

And a sv220 filter

[agile cloak]

Dawg

[jagged igloo]

Ignore what heroic Frog said.

[frosty coyote]

what did I say

[quiet pilot]

Dropped my shutter release in and it broke

[copper sparrow]

F

[quiet pilot]

Don’t need it anymore though

[copper sparrow]

I had a pool, I miss the smell of chlorine

[quiet pilot]

lol

[quiet pilot]

In Australia there is a lot of pools

Like at least 6 public pools and that’s an understatement

[copper sparrow]

I’d never have a pool in Australia. Hell I’d never step foot in Australia

[quiet pilot]

Y

[eternal topaz]

Y

[copper sparrow]

I think Australia should be nuked

Kill all the spiders, snakes, and crazy things

[quiet pilot]

It’s so overdramatised it’s unreal

You can fully avoid all of those things it’s just based on location

[copper sparrow]

I’ve seen your spider trees

[eternal topaz]

I went to outback Australia- middle of nowhere for 3 days and the only non-human thing I saw were budgies and domesticated dogs.

[copper sparrow]

No thanks

[eternal topaz]

In peak summer as well

[quiet pilot]

All I saw was like 50 dead kangaroos

When I went to the outback

[copper sparrow]

I’d punch a kangaroo

[quiet pilot]

No you wouldn’t

[copper sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kangaroo-man-punching-gif-15068733

[quiet pilot]

They could do serious damage, even kill you

[eternal topaz]

Yea don't underestimate them

[copper sparrow]

a risk I’m willing to take

[quiet pilot]

Especially if it’s a red kangaroo

[copper sparrow]

There’s different types?

[quiet pilot]

Also they are known to try and drown dogs and stuff

[eternal topaz]

Oh yea

[copper sparrow]

Yea this gif is a guy punching one cause it tries to take his dog

why don’t they like dogs 😦

[quiet pilot]

That’s like asking why doesn’t fin like nebulae

If you know fin

[copper sparrow]

idk fin

Oh…

Are dingoes friendly dogs or evil dogs

[quiet pilot]

depends if they are domesticated or not

[quiet pilot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quC4cbpJeaU

[copper sparrow]

Oh

Maybe not friendly

Il pet a wild one though

[quiet pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-nah-nope-please-no-cut-it-gif-4580587

[eternal topaz]

They carry rabies

[copper sparrow]

so do raccoons, that doesn’t stop me

[modern sparrow]

Visual finder I use a laser

[frosty coyote]

put it in rice

[random tartan]

Sagittarius A*

[indigo cape]

m51, everybody does it atleast once in their career

[exotic gyro]

my fov

[stuck lily]

either m51 or m82

not m101 since it is a lot dimmer

[exotic gyro]

yea, that might be when I get a goto dob

[jagged igloo]

27 hours left for some reason

[stuck lily]

graey

[livid plaza]

g

[stuck lily]

just say gry, no more arguments about it 👍

[livid plaza]

grei

[indigo cape]

gr

[agile cloak]

‎

[agile cloak]

Poll ends in 23 hours.

[eternal topaz]

Oh no!
Anyways,

[gusty jungle]

skill issue tbh

[modern sparrow]

for smol rigs frac for big noot

[eternal topaz]

If you had the minicam8 as an option, I would've taken it

[indigo cape]

the minicam 8 has issues, first is that the filters are not replaceble, and you cannot take advantage of 585s infrared sensitivity

[velvet shore]

Thats unfortunate, still it seems like a solid budget camera.

[earnest quarry]

both

[eternal topaz]

Why would you want to replace the filters anyways? They work fine

[indigo cape]

some people want good filters

[eternal topaz]

They're made by optolong

[indigo cape]

y not replace the sho filters with antlias

[eternal topaz]

It's an intro to mono setup - you don't need antilas

[indigo cape]

ig

still

you want your stuff upgradeable

[copper sparrow]

Well if one breaks or gets scratched ur screwed

[eternal topaz]

You can get a replacement

[copper sparrow]

Oh can you? Nvm then

It’s like $850 right? That’s a good price for mono. If I didn’t get a good deal on my Astro cam I’d have gone with that

[agile cloak]

Poll ends in 2 days.

[random tartan]

Of course

[mortal sonnet]

69, nice.

[agile cloak]

[agile cloak]

Uranus c pro due to the smaller pixels being much better for planetary

The imx585 is actually made for planetary

[velvet shore]

The imx585 is honestly a really good all round sensor, unless you want to do anything wide field.

[agile cloak]

[mortal sonnet]

Dubaiastro randomly becoming ashen for no reason.

[eternal topaz]

ha targets would go crazy with astro cam

[copper sparrow]

For anything in Cygnus I’d probably do some M81 before, since it’s visible only after like 3 am

[eager gulch]

planetary with ares c and my 6" dob, havent done dso with it yet it will be better than the uranus c tho thats for sure

[agile cloak]

#1326261767860519015 message poll ends in 23 hours.

[inner pine]

mfw #1326261767860519015 message ends in 23 hours

[frosty coyote]

why did you have to say that when we can literally see on the poll when it ends

[agile cloak]

#1326261767860519015 message would you like to travel as fast as light?

[inner pine]

ok but do you know #1326261767860519015 message ends in 23 hours

[agile cloak]

ok but do you know #1326261767860519015 message ends in 23 hours

[frosty coyote]

bruh

[exotic gyro]

I have another poll because I found some other astrocams that could be better, Ares C Pro vs QHY183C

[frosty coyote]

making fun of marc is crazy work

[stuck lily]

can i choose where im going or do i just warp randomly

[agile cloak]

Ur one to talk aren’t u

[agile cloak]

Can I use it for illegal stuff

Like stealing cheeseburgers

[frosty coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/on-frog-frog-on-god-on-dog-gif-13492924572480532659

[agile cloak]

Cold

[eager gulch]

sexy dobsonian

[eager gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-get-fake-scp-roblox-scp3008-gif-21544781

[eager gulch]

only the real oness image on roof

[exotic gyro]

it used to be the roof

[eternal topaz]

No one should buy a 183

[copper sparrow]

Why

Is that the one with amp glow

[eternal topaz]

Yes

[exotic gyro]

but what about with callibration frames

[copper sparrow]

I guess that fixes it

kinda annoying to even have that tho

[exotic gyro]

true

[agile cloak]

EXTREME amp glow.

[exotic gyro]

I wonder which one I should get, the results are pretty close

[stuck lily]

lucky imaging has to be under 100 milliseconds doesn't it

[mortal sonnet]

I did 0.25 with m42 pretty succesfully

Seeing was 1/5 (trash) but lucky imaging helped immensely. this is blurxed

[mortal sonnet]

5 seconds of integration btw

[halcyon marlin]

i think this may be generally representative of what we see visually through the 28” cdk at my uni

more zoomed ofc and i think slightly dimmer in the core

(circular too but yk)

[modern sparrow]

What bortle is the skies?

[halcyon marlin]

4.5

[modern sparrow]

no colour in orion ?

[velvet shore]

Mono.

[halcyon marlin]

oh yeah we see color- i was just more so referring to brightness and stuff

blues and greens mostly

[mortal sonnet]

Oh that's bright

[modern sparrow]

well dew strap with actually work, dew sheild from paper will just get soggy and it wont really work that well

has to be heated

[halcyon marlin]

dew straps that small can be pretty cheap too

[modern sparrow]

I got a 400mm one for 24aud

[copper sparrow]

what about foam?

This is for a 30mm guide, a dew strap would be ideal but I’m not sure if it’s worth

[halcyon marlin]

a dew strap will be worth it for peace of mind throughout the night - a dew shield helps but it doesn’t prevent dew on the optics

plus, it’s also an extra strap if you need it

[copper sparrow]

yea I just don’t want to buy a strap rn. I’d rather use what i got to make one and pray that works

[mortal sonnet]

I had a lot of dew issues on my corrector plate, even with dew heaters it just wasn't enough. I just made a contraption out of cardboard and it solved all my issues. It's definitely not pretty but it works.

[copper sparrow]

Was there no dew shield?

[winged void]

had to listen to yall I guess

[mortal sonnet]

Wdym? The dew shield IS the cardboard thingy. There was a dew HEATER I'd that's what you are referring to.

[copper sparrow]

no what im asking is, WAS there not a dew shield? I know the cardboard is the dew shield.

im surprised there wasnt some kind of dew shield, even a little bit

ive never owned one of those scopes

[mortal sonnet]

Oh you mean included with the scope

[copper sparrow]

yes

[mortal sonnet]

No there wasn't, it's also quite expensive.

[copper sparrow]

I see. Well il probably try and make one out of cardboard or something, my guide scope is tiny so a toilet paper roll might work tbh. If humidity ever gets bad enough to cause problems, might need to buy another dew heater.

[frigid heart]

I don't know of anyone who's actually bought a dew shield for their SCT. Everyone I know with one just makes their own lol

[velvet shore]

Nothing to bad, nothing to write home about either.

[modern sparrow]

is there worse than terrible ?

[tulip halo]

Lmao

[copper sparrow]

According to Astropheric my seeing is constantly below average

[eternal topaz]

They have reflective parts?

[brazen sundial]

literally voting for cat

SAC has been utterly defeated by clouds

[frosty coyote]

I've never even heard of sac

[indigo cape]

none

votes for cat

[stuck lily]

bro i can't remove my vote

im trying to change it to bricj

[frosty coyote]

Maybe click the "Remove Vote" button.

[tired flint]

for me if i wanna image anything outside of ursa major its concrete however if i wanna image something in ursa major its grass

[exotic gyro]

Rubber

[jagged igloo]

A grism has both the pros of a prism and a diffraction grating.

[modern sparrow]

Who or what is cat

[agile cloak]

What optical element would you use for spectroscopy? #1326261767860519015 message

[modern sparrow]

No dirt

[agile cloak]

Poll ends in 6 days.

[jagged igloo]

@scarlet mica what did you choose for other?

[tulip halo]

Dirt grass same thing

[copper sparrow]

Mine either has aluminum foil or some other reflective material

Likely aluminum foil, seems like an easy way to get a reflective surface

[stuck lily]

yes

[frosty coyote]

[scarlet mica]

ngl you repeating what he says is far more annoying than him actually updating people in the polls channel how long his polls last for

[agile cloak]

mb

[jagged igloo]

That is true

[vestal bramble]

You don't know

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1356312107015995442

Context:

(I am allowed to do this because I am part of it)

[mortal sonnet]

Visible because I see that shi

[modern sparrow]

There's oiii and sii but no halpha

[modest sage]

Who tf voting dual narrowband

[acoustic iron]

NO I FORGOT
RAHHH

[quiet pilot]

twould be me

[jagged igloo]

I wonder what people use for spectroscopy?

[copper sparrow]

me

[daring ember]

25 Rokis stacked on each other

[modern sparrow]

Lunt 120

[mortal sonnet]

Not that interested in solar 😔

[modern sparrow]

[eternal topaz]

DR350

[mortal sonnet]

You mean the delta rho?

I'm not Elon Musk bud

[eternal topaz]

Yes

[frosty coyote]

fat newt

[jagged igloo]

Most people choose the diffraction grating (transmission)

[mortal sonnet]

Nah RCTs are sharper

[frosty coyote]

and what evidence do you have for that? RCs have bigger central obstructions

[frosty coyote]

(if you choose "other" then please say below what your answer is)

[velvet shore]

3d print it if you have one.

[frosty coyote]

I don't have 3d printer

[scarlet mica]

there's a lot of places that'll 3d print stuff for cheap ish

look up 3d print online and you'll find many

https://jlc3dp.com

i used this to 3d print parts for my 1:1 replica f1 wheel

[sage herald]

can i 3d print it for you?

[frosty coyote]

I just want a DIY fast solution for the time being

perhaps 3d print in the future but I want something temporary right now

[scarlet mica]

cardboard is probably the way to go for now then

easy to make and doesn't make a mess

[dusky nimbus]

I just love this guy

[mortal sonnet]

It's a known fact... CO doesn't matter for sharpness. There's a reason as to why the majority of research scopes are RCTs, extremely well corrected field without the need for coma correctors.

[frosty coyote]

Co definitely matters for sharpness...

it's taking away part of your aperture

[mortal sonnet]

The benefits completely outweigh any negative effect that has, the biggest difference is contrast but that's useless for photography, that's why they aren't used for visual tho.

[frosty coyote]

fair enough but saying that the central obstruction doesn't matter for sharpness is a straight up lie

[mortal sonnet]

A newt with 1% obstruction (obviously not possible but just to make an example) would still be worse than an RC with 50% obs because aperture doesn't do shit against coma

[frosty coyote]

coma correctors exist

[mortal sonnet]

Still sharper as you aren't using refraction with an rc

Another advantage (actually a really big one) is the fact they are very compact. Imagine a f/8 40" newt in an observatory

[frigid heart]

I observe visually with an RC. The central obstruction reduces contrast a little for planetary observation, but the effect is overstated.

But the contrast issues don't affect extended objects much. It does great on nebulae, nearby galaxies, and especially open clusters due to the lack of coma

[frigid heart]

Actually a big reason I picked an RC is that there's really not much in the way of 8" f/8 scopes besides it

[jagged igloo]

I do the annoying thing as always

[agile cloak]

[tulip halo]

These all I could think off

[stuck lily]

smart scopes don't deserve the hate they get

[modern sparrow]

Where sct

[copper sparrow]

I think smart scopes are hated by the old boomers who think everything needs to be manual and you need to learn the night sky with nothing but a planisphere. And by astrophotographers who think they are too easy and not real AP

Undeserved

[modern sparrow]

I feel like using a manual dob will learn the sky easier and faster but that's just me

Will have a deeper knowledge

[copper sparrow]

I found it hard that way. Maybe I’m just lazy but once I started imaging i was able to learn where objects are easier

[modern sparrow]

A combo of visual and imaging is probably best

[copper sparrow]

I know a lot of visual purists probably think that Go-to is terrible, but I can’t live without it lol

[modern sparrow]

I've done my fair share of manual target finding, GOTO is amazing

[frosty coyote]

they are completely fine at what they do but they do everything for you and they leave you with no upgrade path

just depends what you're looking for in astro. Final images, or the experience of taking the images

[copper sparrow]

I agree. But for the S30 and S50 specifically, they are the cheapest and simplest way to get into the hobby and produce decent results. For a lot of people this is enough, especially for a family or older people who dont necessarily want to have a large rig that costs at least 5x more.

For a lot of us here we like the experience and what not, but I think they get too much hate.

Just because the experience for someone wouldn’t be as enjoyable as a full blown dig, doesn’t mean they should go hating on them and saying the people who buy them are wasting their money. (Which is what I’ve seen happening Sadly)

Ok there’s my Ted Talk

[stuck lily]

i agree with everything callo said I've been saying that for a while lol

[stuck lily]

sure they do everything for you but it isn't forced. They give you the option to do things yourself and you do have some minor upgrade paths like filters and switching to equatorial

[frosty coyote]

IMO if you get a smart scope just for the final picture then just grab hubble pics from google

[stuck lily]

callo explained pretty well the "why?"

[velvet shore]

I agree

[copper sparrow]

yep I’m not repeating it lol

[frosty coyote]

most comments people make on smart scopes are just observations, not really hate.

they're not necessarily bad, just good at different things

[copper sparrow]

If it was all that itd be fine. But I’ve actually seen hate elsewhere towards them. A lot of gate keeping

[stuck lily]

the smart scopes are marketed towards people who just want to throw it on the ground and see pretty stuff but i actually realized i have not met a smart scope user so far who wasn't willing to learn processing to do it themselves

[copper sparrow]

I watched a video a while ago and it basically showed a lot of hate on Facebook towards the SeeStars from some of the older members in Astro. Was a lot of gate keeping mentality, kinda disappointing

Can’t find it though sadly

to clarify the video was mad at the comments; not making them itself

[stuck lily]

People who like astronomy enough to spend their money on a smart scope also like it enough to put the effort into learning how to do it better

[copper sparrow]

Well maybe

[stuck lily]

i never understand the people who completely say they are to be avoided

[copper sparrow]

I’m sure there’s a good portion of Seestar users who don’t care to reprocess the images. And are happy with what it creates.

A lot of the SeeStar users here are more into it so are willing to reprocess. Kind of an audience bias

[stuck lily]

yes there definitely is

but i have met a lot of smart scope users

and so far nobody has not cared enough to try and improve

And it isn't just in this server

[tulip halo]

Smart scopes deserve hate partially because there's no hardship onto it in every hobby i think there should be at least some downs and these downs make you better next time and you learn more

You just sit relax and just image without doing much

[stuck lily]

frustration is a hobby killer

[tulip halo]

In real ap it takes time n dedication to get good images

[tulip halo]

Yup but for me I always learn from it

Other day I images m101 thru phone it came out so dim but I never realised it was m101 I was careless

Spent me 3h 'looking for it's when it was in every pic I took I was so careless

So next time I have to pay attention in small details in every pic

[scarlet mica]

Not to be an ass but that sounds like a skill issue and not something against smart scopes

[tulip halo]

NGL true

I still learnt from it

Makes me better in the future but smart scopes you barely learn experience and hardship from what I'm saying

[scarlet mica]

Here's a question though

[tulip halo]

You still get decent images

[scarlet mica]

Other than price, what differentiates someone who buys a smart scope and someone who buys a mega high end rig with go-to right away where the hardest thing they have to do is polar align, specially something like an AM5 that doesn't even need a counter weight

[stuck lily]

yea and now smart scopes need polar alignment too so like

[tulip halo]

People with am5 choose to learn polar align guiding and all that smart scopes I feel like it's very limited in terms of learning and the actual hobby with actual mounts you learn a lot

[scarlet mica]

Do note I would never own a smart telescope because I have no use for one, but you know, devil's advocate

[scarlet mica]

I mean smart scopes also need polar alignment

[tulip halo]

It's probably the most easiest polar align to do as it can like show on the app

And where to move n stuff

[scarlet mica]

Skywatcher and celestron also have an app that tell you where to point and where to line it up

[tulip halo]

I forgot abt that 😅

[agile cloak]

nope.

Well depends if ur using eq mode or not

[tulip halo]

They already in general just track the sky

Smart scopes are for weaklings maybe for casual starters

[jagged igloo]

Why are smart scope dumb scopes?

[stuck lily]

galaxies🔛 🔝

[copper sparrow]

i forgot the sun

oops

[stuck lily]

just leave that under other

you forgot comets Bob is going to be angry

[scarlet mica]

You forgot satélites 🙄

Smh callo

[frigid heart]

Smart scopes aside: in forums for visual astronomy, there's always complaints about SCT quality. Everyone's trying to find a "freaky sharp" SCT out of what seems to be a sea of "mush dogs"

RCs get slander, but mostly the older solid tube ones from GSO and it's honestly deserved. New ones seem to have addressed a good number of those issues.

Though I do think the effect of a large CO is generally overstated. It makes a difference but it's not enormous

[frigid heart]

I've heard of a lot of older experienced astrophotographers talk about how SeeStars have kept them in the hobby now that they're not capable of setting up and taking down a huge rig or their eyes aren't up to intensive visual observation.

[frigid heart]

I used to think that GoTo was a waste but my god has it changed my visual observing. I should be clear about what I mean by "waste" though: mostly in terms of the extra weight a fully motorized mount and power supply would require.

[copper sparrow]

Are go-to really that heavier, and for my go-to its just 8 AAs

[copper sparrow]

Absolutely yea, its great for older people who dont got the energy to set up big rigs

[frigid heart]

Well in my case, I went for a strain wave mount and it's much more manageable than my old rig! I never thought an 8" RC would be what I'd call "grab and go" but it certainly is now

I don't think I'm hauling any more than 50 pounds of equipment, and I don't even have a car

[tulip halo]

I can very agree that

Smartscopes are probably the only way to get decent images without any hassle it's probably the last thing I would do

[earnest quarry]

mono if you have money and lots of clear nights

I have neither so i'm going OSC

[acoustic iron]

forget da price

only consider

which is the best for shootig

[earnest quarry]

i've never used an astrocam but it seems obvious that mono would be better

so i'll go that if I had almost unlimited clear nights (i haven't had one in weeks) and money

[frosty coyote]

how is this even a question

[agile cloak]

Why do people always say mono isn’t good for them because they don’t have time

It’s the complete opposite

ur image is going to be better faster

30 mins for r g b> 1 hour 30 mins osc

[earnest quarry]

don't you have to shoot 30 minutes r, 30 minutes g and 30 minutes b?

[agile cloak]

ok? U just use a filter wheel or filter drawer and ez

also, even one hour of total rgb will be better than 1 hour 30 mins osc

[earnest quarry]

True

[mortal sonnet]

Bedrock should be banned from Earth

[exotic gyro]

java on sight

[agile cloak]

Java 101%

I would genuinely still play bedrock tho, I have no issue with it

It’s others choice

[mortal sonnet]

I hate it because I used to do serious redstone and redstone in bedrock is trash

[gusty jungle]

oh that is overwhelmingly java

[mortal sonnet]

I actually made a computer once, lost the world but I have a video of it computing the Fibonacci's sequence

[agile cloak]

Oh yeh for sure

My cousin used to always annoy me by talking about a “Redstone contraption”

i forgot what it even is lmao

[tulip halo]

Ehh I'm used to bedrock never played java

Java is much more experimental icl

[mortal sonnet]

So basically, java is the same but better

[tulip halo]

I'm used to bedrock so for me it's just better

[copper sparrow]

I think you mean Bugrock

[frosty coyote]

hot take: no server should be bedrock

[copper sparrow]

Bedrock is trash

[stuck lily]

imo bedrock is better only in singleplayer

for a server, java

[copper sparrow]

why would it be better

you have to pay for mods

[agile cloak]

[velvet shore]

M106, the fov and ha looks so good!

[sudden wave]

Thankyou!

[copper sparrow]

There’s also acrylic

[indigo cape]

print? shred.

[indigo cape]

my current camera. to be honest...

[indigo cape]

do a HOO palette

[quiet pilot]

go for the hoo pallete

[mortal sonnet]

I can get SHO and do a bunch of different palletes with those tho

In the poll I'm referring to the filters to use, not necesarilly the pallette I'll use.

[indigo cape]

SHO bleugh

[quiet pilot]

hoo

[mortal sonnet]

Yeah but if I just get Ha and Oiii i'm limited to just a few pallettes, if I also get Sii I can do a lot of shit.

[quiet pilot]

get hoo

[mortal sonnet]

"get hoo" doesn't mean anything tho 😭 I get Oiii and H-a is what you mean

Let's see what the people want tho

[tired flint]

sho is the goat on m16

[mortal sonnet]

Yeah but why not L+SHO

[velvet shore]

Shred as in? 🎸🎸🎸🎸

[vestal bramble]

Van halen reference

[agile cloak]

no

[scarlet mica]

Yes

[agile cloak]

no

[random tartan]

3D

[copper sparrow]

I got a metal print and they messed it up. Was too dim so none of the faint dust was visible on the Horsehead and Flame Nebula 😦

[eternal topaz]

I love f2

[stuck lily]

if youre buying new, fma180

but you can find the roki for half price used

[random tartan]

Which one isn't the lottery lens?

[stuck lily]

yea true the roki can be a lottery lens

ive seen some horrible ones

but when its good it can be crazy

[velvet shore]

Who’d you buy it from?

[copper sparrow]

CanvasPeople

[velvet shore]

If you just increased the brightness of the image prior to sending it wouldn’t that fix the issue?

[copper sparrow]

Yea but I didn’t know that ahead of time. And if I did that it would’ve made the noise worse and my target brighter

[gusty jungle]

while ive used the fma 180 and its pretty good, f2 is f2

[indigo cape]

[exotic gyro]

I’m probably gonna buy new, but the tariffs are probably gonna scrub my Rokinon plans

[exotic gyro]

That’s what I’m using for now, sub 400ms exposures

[tulip halo]

I chose southern mw peaks there and satellite galaxies

[agile cloak]

Southern has so much better stuff

[tulip halo]

Northern has much more planetary nebula and galaxies ngl

[modest sage]

These answers are wrong. M16 is much nicer in lrgb.

[mortal sonnet]

I like SHO on them tbh, I'm not a fan of the purple stars but I really don't want to get RGB stars.

[golden spoke]

But then the galaxies and planetary nebula are usually way too dim for visual. Like all u can see with an 8 inch are fuzzy patches of light, when it comes to galaxies

[tulip halo]

No it ain't

I literally saw ring nebula in b7 with my bare eyes 6 inch newtonian

It was grey and clearly had structure

It depends on surface brightness

Galaxies by eye you have no chance but I had good results with just long exposure phone

[exotic gyro]

speaking of galaxys, Im gonna image a galaxy tonight

[jagged igloo]

Here is the poll. There are so many being posted and it gets longer and longer to find.

[quiet pilot]

*this winter

[agile cloak]

Ok Australian

[copper sparrow]

Cygnus my beloved

[velvet shore]

Cygnus is my favorite constellation.

[velvet shore]

¿ɹǝᴉsɐǝ sᴉɥʇ pɐǝɹ noʎ uɐƆ

[quiet pilot]

Naur

[velvet shore]

Yaurr

[vestal bramble]

(i just realized 2 and 4 are basically the same thing lol)

[modern sparrow]

navigation is helpful with this

[exotic gyro]

they should know the big dipper and cassiopea, possibly cygnus, definitly orion

[modern sparrow]

southern dwellers gotta know southern cross and centaurus atleast

[copper sparrow]

What’s the point

There’s no use tbh

[exotic gyro]

if you get stuck in the woods with an heq5, you can do astrophotography because you will know how to find Polaris to polar allign

[modern sparrow]

no power for the heq5 ?

[exotic gyro]

nah, you got solar or a big power bank, like your car broke down

[tulip halo]

Constellations r useful if I'm ever kidnapped then dumped in a forest I cna just look at polaris and know my compass

[random tartan]

Which is not to say that you'll be able to polar align ... just that you will know how to find it.

[exotic gyro]

true

[velvet shore]

The only reason I’m any good with directions is because I know the sky.

[frosty coyote]

10 hours at least

[exotic gyro]

Its a manual dobsonian

no freaking way

[frosty coyote]

get to it

[exotic gyro]

take your pick from the options on the poll

I have 2 nights to do this

[frosty coyote]

do 5h per night and you'll be golden

[exotic gyro]

I can get at max 10-20 minutes per night

[frosty coyote]

skill issue

[exotic gyro]

Im gonna fill so many sd cards

I also dont know where my intervelometer is

and my finder scope is not aligned

but I do have my collimation cap

[acoustic iron]

You should know the basic ones

Ursa Major and Ursa Minor, Casseiopeia, Orion,

[stuck lily]

1 and 2

yeah you should but it also isnt really useful if you never do anything astronomy related

nobodys actually gonna find their way home from the middle of the forest with the star patterns

[scarlet mica]

I think it's good to know at least Polaris or the southern equivilent incase you ever get lost without phone service

[earnest quarry]

What is the difference between negative and horrible

Because my parents let me do it but won’t let me buy anything until I buy a car

[gusty jungle]

horrible is like they actively laugh, i dunno

[stuck lily]

Does #💬-general-chat message count as horrible

[gusty jungle]

yeah

[stuck lily]

rahg

[gusty jungle]

negative is like mild remarks ig

[hoary rapids]

i'm a lucky man when it comes to mine

[stuck lily]

the thing is my parents show off my stuff to family yet at home they hate it

pick a side are you gonna support it or not

[hoary rapids]

Dude.. what

my parents do both they support me and show it to family

[modern sparrow]

i mean my dad camps with my at the starparty, does visual halpha solar with me and has seen the aurora in may, october and january with me

[stuck lily]

yea they just want to look good to other family

[hoary rapids]

god damnit..

[hoary rapids]

real my dad took me to a Bortle 1 one time just becuase he wanted too and he was interested he stayed out almost whole night with me to chat about space and stuff

[stuck lily]

not just astro Literally any hobby that they can do so they will

[earnest quarry]

Yeah I’m picking that then, since they complain about how it won’t make me money and stuff 💀

[hoary rapids]

you can make some good money off it if you have a channel and do it right..

[earnest quarry]

Plus my dad does visual with me sometimes

[gusty jungle]

hey i know a guy who made 20 whole dollars off astro

[copper sparrow]

My mom doesn’t like me spending all mu money but other than that she likes my images

[gusty jungle]

which was about 0.02% the cost of his setup but eh

[earnest quarry]

[earnest quarry]

Same

[hoary rapids]

i mean as one wise man once said if you have a ASIAIR your not rich Anymore..

[earnest quarry]

I might make a YouTube about it ngl

[hoary rapids]

it's a neat tool i am planning to get it for my next rig...

i have a telescope army beginning

3 scopes so far..

well 3 whole rigs

[stuck lily]

3??

[earnest quarry]

Could you spare one for me

[stuck lily]

my parents wanted to destroy my rig lol

they hate it that much

[hoary rapids]

yeah well if they do that they owe you money... hehhehehe

and alot at that becuase rigs cost a arm and both my kidneys

[hoary rapids]

i have no limbs or organs left....

[stuck lily]

steal some

[hoary rapids]

good point!

[earnest quarry]

If you don’t mind me asking, how old are you

Cuz if you’re above 18 I’d let them and make them pay

[stuck lily]

nah sadly

[hoary rapids]

still i'd want the money... or at least new stuff...

if they did it

[stuck lily]

they would not pay

[hoary rapids]

ah well Make them pay be annoying

[earnest quarry]

Take em to court

You might have a case if you bought it with job money

[stuck lily]

im not going to let them destroy it

[hoary rapids]

even if they do i'd say be as annoying as possible just make them regret it in the most calm way possible)

[stuck lily]

if it gets to the point i think they actually will im gonna hide the stuff

[hoary rapids]

also first of all that's a waste of money on there end as well in ways

[earnest quarry]

You could hide the stuff on my doorstep

[stuck lily]

I really don't understand why they even hate it bc if they're showing it off to family clearly it's something they think is worth showing

[hoary rapids]

send it to me my parents littrally don't care how many telescope stuff i got as long as i keep it somewhere

[hoary rapids]

EXACTLY

honeslty never understood people like that

[stuck lily]

i just tried to close a blind bc i was about to go do visual with binos and they got mad

[earnest quarry]

Everything can be solved with hydroflouric acid if you have the will

[hoary rapids]

REAL

[stuck lily]

#1326261767860519015 message imma resend link bc it got drowned in the conversation

[gusty jungle]

sadly i think the police gets a bit mad if you do that

[hoary rapids]

There goes my evening plans..

[earnest quarry]

:(

I was gonna suggest ricin but I thought this was more tame (for whatever reason)

[hoary rapids]

[exotic gyro]

my parents will let me go outside and watched the lunar eclipse with me, they also bought all my equipment

[stuck lily]

what

can i move in vro

[tulip halo]

Ehh my parents supportive but some nights it's super scary if I make a noise even opening a garden door ik that sandal is after me..

[vestal bramble]

Cost of rig: $3,050
Current income generated by rig: $5.97

[earnest quarry]

hey income is income

[earnest quarry]

why does bro have beef with astrobin 😭

[vestal bramble]

Astrobin is actually crazy

[magic nexus]

they keep making really shit images win shit

[vestal bramble]

Why do you note like kt

[vestal bramble]

Give examples

Are you saying my image is bad

[earnest quarry]

ignore the top picks, just use it for finding out what a camera or scope is like (like I do)

[vestal bramble]

And it is volunteers who pick these things. They do it on their free time its not like they get paid

And they do a good job imo

[magic nexus]

I am far too lazy to look thru the iotds to find the bad ones
but we have both seen the bad shit that gets upvoted on astrobin

[vestal bramble]

Well that's not astrobins fault

That's the community supporting bad images

But it's doing a good job imo. For being free

[magic nexus]

iotd costs money you know that right

[gusty jungle]

dumb people exist in social media and somehow thats the social medias fault, more at 7

[magic nexus]

https://app.astrobin.com/explore/iotd-tp-archive?i=54u5p4

like okay this is a top pick
has this guy not heard of, background extraction?

have the people who gave it top pick not heard of background extraction?