Best visual astronomy telescope under $1500
#is 10 inch gso dobsonian good
spring plank
vestal wraith
Get an 8 inch dob
It seems counter intuitive to go smaller but you should never buy a dob bigger than 8” if you don’t have experience with 8”
Later if you want you can sell it, and use the money from that + leftover budget to find a bigger one
mellow sorrel
Best visual astronomy telescope under $1500
What bortle do you live in btw?
spring plank
But if a 8 inch newtonian on a bresser exos 2 go to mount
I have two two house one in bortle 2 and one in bortle 4 and mostly live in bortle 4 region
mellow sorrel
Alright bortle is good.
mellow sorrel
But if a 8 inch newtonian on a bresser exos 2 go to mount
You would only be able to use it visually, not photography.
But an 8" dob has more value imo
spring plank
Why only visual for newtonian on goto mount
mellow sorrel
It might be worth getting a 10" dob actually since u have a pretty good bortle level. That is if you can move it because it's heavy
mellow sorrel
Why only visual for newtonian on goto mount
Because the 8" is too heavy for that mount.
spring plank
Oh then a 6 inch f5
mellow sorrel
Do you want to photograph, do visual observing, see planets or deepsky
spring plank
Both
mellow sorrel
All?
spring plank
Yes
mellow sorrel
What budget?
mellow sorrel
It's a bit hard to get a rig that can do all of the things for that amount.
Do you have a camera?
Maybe if you buy used stuff you can.
spring plank
Ok thanks , I don't have a camera but is the exos 2 goto mount good
mellow sorrel
People don't really recomend it but i don't really know you can ask in #🤓-ask-a-nerd
shrewd venture
Ok thanks , I don't have a camera but is the exos 2 goto mount good
skywatcher eqm35 and a 150pds
spring plank
Pds ?
vocal stump
Pds ?
it's skywachers astrophotography 6" newt model. You can find it on astroshop here: https://www.astroshop.eu/telescopes/skywatcher-telescope-n-150-750-pds-explorer-bd-eqm-35-pro-synscan-goto/p,59456#specifications
you'll probably want a coma corrector for it too though
mellow sorrel
Yep
And a barlow for planetary
And eyepieces
And a camera
And a powerbank
And a laptop or asiair i think
And the shipping cost
shrewd venture
And the shipping cost
God sunngifu I SWEAR you're getting on my nerves
you dont need all of that
mellow sorrel
I mean you really do
shrewd venture
ya dont
mellow sorrel
How tf would you image without a camera, or use the scope visually without eyepieces, or how would you power it💀
shrewd venture
no need for a barlow or eyepieces as it comes with a 28mm, no need for a powerbank... it can charge with a car battery or wall plug
mellow sorrel
Okay thats one eyepiece which is not enough for planetary
shrewd venture
laptop or asiair arent necessary
mellow sorrel
And still need a barlow
shrewd venture
he didnt say he wanted planetary
mellow sorrel
He wants all
mellow sorrel
laptop or asiair arent necessary
Thats fair but in the future
shrewd venture
well that's for him to decide, adding unnecessary stuff in the beggining can easily throw off a person
eyepieces aren't necessary.... a 28mm and barlow is better than having those pesky low mm eyepieces
mellow sorrel
Still a barlow, more eyepieces for visual, a camera and a coma corrector🙂
shrewd venture
I have used a bunch of eyepieces and that 28mm LET is all you need
mellow sorrel
1 sec
shrewd venture
Isn't required but it's good to have them
it really isnt... any eyepieces you get at the budget he has will be shite
mellow sorrel
Still missing out on magnification for planetary, unless MAYBE you get a 5x barlow, but still at 134x
I'll remove the laptop or asiar, but other things i will keep
mellow sorrel
it really isnt... any eyepieces you get at the budget he has will be shite
Then he has to up the budget... which is also kinda my point
Ofc he doesn't need them right away but it's good to know
mellow sorrel
no need for a barlow or eyepieces as it comes with a 28mm, no need for a powerba...
If neither of those aren't an option😉 once again, telling him what he might need
mellow sorrel
God sunngifu I SWEAR you're getting on my nerves
Also what did i do to you😂😭
Telling you an eq5 isn't enough for an 8"?
shrewd venture
yep.... a bunch of times.... you keep saying stuff that aren't true, from experience I've told you multiple times that the eq5 perfectly handles an 8" and you still continue spreading misleading stuff
mellow sorrel
mellow sorrel
It aint that deep get over it yes i told you eq5 isn't enough so did everybody else and yes i have said some wrong things but no one can ever say anything perfect. I'll try to be as proffesional as i can sometimes i'm not. don't want hate between us so lets forget this
shrewd venture
alright, but "everybody else" are people that very much likely haven't tried to put an 8" f/5 on an eq5.... Next time base yourself on someone who actually has some experience with eq5s and 8 inchers....
mellow sorrel
Some say it works some say it doesn't. For you it works, great. Also you have to listen to others peoples opinions, ur not gonna buy an expensive thing and next night see oh it doesn't work
shrewd venture
Some say it works some say it doesn't. For you it works, great. Also you have to...
"some say it doesnt" -> haven't tried it and rely on a rumor or did not pa/balance correctly
"for you it works" not just for me, I'm in an ap club and there are like 6 people with 8" on eq5s including that modded c8 and they ALL work fine unguided untuned....
I think 2 of em actually have mono setups on the gear, full on cooled cam filterwheel coma corrector field flattener/reducer.
they usually get .6" tracking
but those are tuned so idk
I get .8" tracking with the dslr and stuff
if I take off the finderscope I can go down to .7
mellow sorrel
Ok so you are saying it's okay to go 90% of the weight limit with any mount?
If not, why is eq5 different
shrewd venture
Ok so you are saying it's okay to go 90% of the weight limit with any mount?
never said that
idk
mellow sorrel
Okay so why is the eq5 different
shrewd venture
haven't tested other mounts so idk abt them
but the eq5 can def handle it
that's why I recommend the eq5 only
and not like an exos 2
but again... hey, if you wanna keep saying whatever message you're spreading feel free to go on... I'm just saying there's no need for someone to increase their budget by 500 to get an heq5 when they will be perfectly okay with an eq5
mellow sorrel
Okay i'll do some research because i'm a bit curious
shrewd venture
I don't
shrewd venture
mind if I take this example from cn
shrewd venture
You have motion blur
where tf did ya find that
motion blur is when stuff is apparently in motion... good tracking means no motion blur
I don't get motion blur in 95% of my shots
and that's at 20kn wind
spring plank
Why are you fighting 😑
shrewd venture
Ur stars arent perfect
its called coma
shrewd venture
Why are you fighting 😑
i swear this guy has some kind of inner will to disprove everything i say lmao
mellow sorrel
its called coma
I thought you have a coma corrector
mellow sorrel
Why are you fighting 😑
Because he doesn't understand that an eq5 isn't a safe option
"I have used the 200PDS on a HEQ5 with mixed results - mostly not very good. It's a beast of a scope and will test the HEQ5 in all but perfect conditions. Add a camera and a guide scope and I reckon you will struggle to balance it with the included 10kg of counterweight, which should tell you something..."
shrewd venture
"I have used the 200PDS on a HEQ5 with mixed results - mostly not very good. It'...
i never mentioned using a heq5
I only refer to the eq5
shrewd venture
the issue he refers to is balancing
mellow sorrel
No...
shrewd venture
I can perfectly balance it with the guidescope
mellow sorrel
He said the results were not very good most of the times
..
shrewd venture
because of balancing
seriously can you not read
also tests show that the eq5 out of the box has better tracking than heq5
of course payload capacity is different
but
yk
mellow sorrel
Have class rn can't talk
shrewd venture
alr
merry breach
Ok thanks , I don't have a camera but is the exos 2 goto mount good
It's not recommended
It's an EQ5 but the issue is the goto system is ass cheeks and the QC is ass
somber lintel
i find it odd someone arguing repeatedly using strictly quotes from people yet doesnt own it versus the guy who has one and uses it. and hangs with 8 other guys in person thats also using it. but anyway.. real life use trumps heresay. everytime. looks like someone just wants to try to win an argument honestly.
man. id love to have a 10 dob. maybe in a year or so. 🙂
vestal wraith
This is the most ridiculous conversation
shrewd venture
This is the most ridiculous conversation
lmao yeas
mellow sorrel
People say 60-50% for a reason. Ur rig might not but it's not perfect
And i would not recomend it because ur not gonna get perfect results like you would with a better mount or a smaller scope
mellow sorrel
As a matter of fact someone eq5 broke after a year because of too much payload lmao
So were gonna end it here. It works but u won't get perfect results
shrewd venture
So were gonna end it here. It works but u won't get perfect results
for gods sake can you not understand
you will never get "perfect results"
shrewd venture
I'm just saying there won't be much of an improvement and for some starting out its not worth the heq5
mellow sorrel
Not perfect
mellow sorrel
It doesn't work PERFEFTLY fine
shrewd venture
it does
mellow sorrel
It works fine
shrewd venture
fine and perfectly fine are different
mellow sorrel
thats what i'm saying
I get what u mean it works FINE
But why would you want it fine if you can get it GOOD
shrewd venture
fine means it works fine.... perfectly fine means you don't get errors and bad tracking and stuff while saying just fine will unintentionally give a message that something bad may happen every once in a while
perfectly fine isbetter than good
God damn can you not understand a written message
mellow sorrel
Yeah it works fine meaning the tracking isn't that accurate and the results won't be as good as u'd want
shrewd venture
Yeah it works fine meaning the tracking isn't that accurate and the results won'...
tracking is that accurate thats my point
results are as good as I'd want
my mount is not an issue or concern at all
shrewd venture
As a matter of fact someone eq5 broke after a year because of too much payload l...
info
who and how much payload
what broke
also "someone" one single f'ing person out of tens of thousands who have an eq5
shrewd venture
People say 60-50% for a reason. Ur rig might not but it's not perfect
where'd you see 50-60% saying no? in this thread there's like 3 people against ya and you're by yourself....
4*
mellow sorrel
where'd you see 50-60% saying no? in this thread there's like 3 people against y...
Many say
shrewd venture
Many say
ya gotta specify bro
many ppl say the earth is flat
doesn't make it true
shrewd venture
and what they say is and hear me out in order
"general advice" - not directed
"not a hard rule" -cmon really
"I think/normally" -yep that's right
Jacob99 - no specific reason, just not specific to the eq5, it's general advice
those are generalized for ap, if you look at the specific eq5/8" bundle, it works great
mellow sorrel
Yes thats why u shouldn't pass it because generally it's too much
mellow sorrel
It's best at or under 50-60%
shrewd venture
doesn't apply to the eq5/8" combo
shrewd venture
It's best at or under 50-60%
it is, but there is near to no difference compared to the 8", only upwards from that does it start goin really bad
mellow sorrel
It's going to get worse and worse every time you add more weight. 50% is the highest best, above that ur gonna start having some problems
shrewd venture
It's going to get worse and worse every time you add more weight. 50% is the hig...
and again, no problems here at the 90-105% gang
just learn to admit you're wrong, theres no issue with it, we will accept it and this discussion will soon vanish from our memories, you're talking to someone who has experience with the eq5 other than some statistic based opinions and refuse to admit that theyre right because a couple people told you generalized advice for other mounts
mellow sorrel
just learn to admit you're wrong, theres no issue with it, we will accept it and...
Yea we can forger it, but i don't get it why people recomend 50-60% if can actually be at 100%
shrewd venture
Yea we can forger it, but i don't get it why people recomend 50-60% if can actua...
because they refer to "most mounts" and not the eq5 particularly
mellow sorrel
Ok but why is the eq5 different
mellow sorrel
Ok so the eq5 can carry 10kg without a problem?
shrewd venture
in our club we use electronically assisted balancing so it makes sense that all our eq5d work right
shrewd venture
Ok so the eq5 can carry 10kg without a problem?
yep
shrewd venture
it's not worse, but out of the box the eq5 has better accuracy for low weights
of course if you put 15kg on the heq5 it'll handle much better
eq5's gears would prob break lmao
mellow sorrel
Alright thanks for explaining everything to me.
shrewd venture
no problem dude :)
spring plank
What's heq5 and eqt ?😜
mellow sorrel
Heq5 is a better version of the eq5. But as kerbal said, the eq5 can carry the 200pds without a problem, and it also has a bit better tracking out of the box.
granite coral
wow i read it all, 🤪 i should probably get back to work