How it started… How it's going…

[sterile ginkgo]

Almost 1 year apart M33

@tulip pike Has your equipment change over time?

[tulip pike]

I switched to cam from phone

[serene musk]

That’s an amazing shot of M33 from a phone

[somber aspen]

Waaa? What m33 shot?

That m33 above was most def not taken with a phone

[knotty cloak]

heres a better comparisin

[hazy steeple]

First ever pic vs (one of) the best

[somber aspen]

Because his first ever image wasn't the same target

[hazy steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1146857694087626854.gif?size=48&name=xdding&quality=lossless

[tulip pike]

If that’s the best one you got why is Stephan’s quintet ur pfp

[undone imp]

its "one of" its best

[warm summit]

First image is my first dso pic and the second is my latest orion neb pic

Nope. This is the latest orion pic

[tulip pike]

What a cute improvement

[warm summit]

It is a cute improvement indeed

[undone imp]

with what are you imaging?

[warm summit]

The first pic was with my 6 inch newt and latest is with my dwarf 2

[undone imp]

dwarf 2?

[warm summit]

Ye

[undone imp]

idk how to feel about them

[tulip pike]

I haven’t even changed equipment

[somber aspen]

Nice my guy

[tulip pike]

The only thing that changed was the camera

Also here’s a thingy of the core lol

[warm summit]

They aren't that bad but they take almost all of the fun from ap

[undone imp]

yeah, pretty much. ap is really neat if you do it, just seeing a raw exposure of a dso or a planet in live view. those robots take all the fun, and the images are even better, when you take it (if youre doing it correctly)

[warm summit]

I mean I do planetary its sure more frustrating when you do it but it's more fun to see the live view and then to stack and proccess the data and enjoy the final image

[undone imp]

yeah, same for Deepsky

[night scarab]

ok 1 up guy

[lofty cosmos]

about 2 years ago vs now

[night scarab]

WOW

[lofty cosmos]

also andromedas too

[agile latch]

About 6 months apart. Sky watcher 80/400 untracked vs 130pds on a eq-5 pro. Taken with a D5300.

[tulip pike]

I gotta shoot Pleiades

[vestal pike]

No, u gotta get a mount

[tulip pike]

Those aren’t even related first off and secondly the more you tell me the less I want to

[somber aspen]

You should get a mount

[knotty cloak]

They are right if you get a tracking mount you can gwt long exposures so it dosnt take a long to get good images

Depending on your telescope weight you could get a dkyguider pro

[vestal pike]

That’s completely fine with me, doesn’t do anything to me at all, all it means is taht you’ll have the pain of untracked for much longer and will be told by many other people to get a mount and for the images, Welp, you’ll just never be able to use the true potential of your gear and always have low quality star trailed images so have fun with untracked and have fun with seeing everyone you’ve talked to in here progress much faster then you just because of the simplest details such as listening to other peoples advice and actually using the advice and not just not giving a shit about what everyone here is trying to say to help you out with this hobby, so good luck have fun

[jagged gale]

Not everyone is able to just buy new gear. There is nothing wrong with keeping the same gear. It isn’t a game. Progress is not that important to some people. If they enjoy the hobby then nothing needs to be changed

[vestal pike]

It’s more taht we’ve told him for a few months and it’s true, I agree with not everyone can just buy new gear but why won’t he ever take our editing advice, more so he try’s to act like he listens but I see he’s next image and nothing changed then he came in bc whilst I was in a call with someone else and that’s fine, it’s a public vc, but why get pissed because I don’t know how to help him out with he’s specific camera and when I tried to go search it up he got even more pissed and told me not todo taht and left. There’s a point of no return

We’ve told him that he’s images are cooked and over sharpened many many times and we’ve told him how not to over process the images, but he NEVER actually even tried to take it

[tulip pike]

I forget lol

[vestal pike]

Would looking back at the messages be an option?

[tulip pike]

I forget to do that

[jagged gale]

It is not my intent to start an argument. I ofcourse don’t know what has happened before between you two. And I definitely don’t want to take any sides or such. Just wanted to remind you that not everyone’s goals are the same.
If you don’t think LowSpec will change or listen to advice, then why bother helping him, no point in trying to convince him

[vestal pike]

Agreed, let’s just let this conversation be and make it go back to what it was supposed to be

[jagged gale]

That is a good idea, thanks for understanding

[untold drum]

How it started,how it's going:

[earnest hill]

🤓🤓that's not the🤓same target 🤓🤓

On a serious note Nice improvement!

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2023

[untold drum]

Thanks. I just got a newt that's f4 so hopefully my images end up better now. That image was with a f13 mak

[earnest hill]

Oh wow yeah

[untold drum]

Ngc 891 is still mak tho

Jupiter progress from 2021 to 2023

[fading flume]

Different planet 🥫

🤓

[pulsar inlet]

Dude, I like that progress.

[fading flume]

uhh

[untold drum]

Am I supposed to know which one is the start?

[tulip pike]

Which one is five pixels?

[untold drum]

Oh yeah. Btw, why is Venus like that?

Thermal cam or something?

It does look way better but idk what it js

[odd moss]

XT-8 and D5500, vs a C11 with a Uranus-C. Almost 10 months of progress. Didn’t realize how hard this hobby has grabbed me until I wrote that out. Worse things I could be doing I suppose

[somber aspen]

Have you tried the Uranus C with the XT8? I have the same dob.

[odd moss]

I'm gonna try it when I'm back home haha, "stuck" with the C11 while I'm up at college

Gonna try some lunar stuff to remind myself of that pain while untracked

[somber aspen]

I'm wondering just how much detail it can resolve with excellent seeing.

[somber aspen]

I finally did lunar again with my QHY 5L, which is basically an ASI 120mm. Surprised the hell out of me.

It's undersampled with my 2x Barlow and the XT8 but it's better than what I had.

[odd moss]

I'll have to hope for a temperature inversion this winter, next to a lake up in the main valley so it's decent odds I get an inversion for a few days to try out some high res work

Mountains eff everything up back home, like living in a wind tunnel with the canyons and all that

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2023

[odd moss]

Prettyyyy

[somber aspen]

Clavius on the right was in excellent seeing

[odd moss]

Good depth on that right image, hard to get near full illumination. Yeah I can tell the seeing was good, lots of small craters pop out in the basin

[somber aspen]

Tbh it's the sharpest lunar image I have to date so far

[odd moss]

Lunar is a strange beast

[somber aspen]

It's incredibly satisfying

[odd moss]

I'm just too much into Jupiter rn, it's addicting to get those little pockmarks on the bands

Lunar is next up

[somber aspen]

Yea I still have yet to get the GRS and moon shadows with the new cam

[odd moss]

Just a matter of time, should be able to resolve ganymede at that sampling, which would be cool

[somber aspen]

I barely caught the GRS here but it really didn't come out well due to my terrible sampling and noise.

Left was 2022

[elfin patrol]

1 1/2 year progress, same target

[charred echo]

One with a phone, the other with a used ZWO ASI 120 MC. 2 years apart.

[pulsar inlet]

Dude, that's great. I'm going to have to compare my "phone vs ZWO ASI585" now.

[charred echo]

whats funny is that I bought the 120 originally for guiding but then remembered it can be used for planetary and was able to get that

agreed

[somber aspen]

It's mostly a comparison of how much more details are present

But yea I can see why you'd like it more, wider lunar shots are quite nice

[eternal dragon]

march to october

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2023

Same Canon 450D (modified)

[quasi raft]

These 2 pictures were taken exactly 1 year apart

[untold drum]

That is not the same target🤓🤓🤓🤓

[quasi raft]

Yeah well they're both in taurus

[untold drum]

Ye ik

[narrow hawk]

The Taurus dust denoised with Deepsnr by any chance?

[quasi raft]

Yep

[narrow hawk]

I see

Summer surprise am I right

[quasi raft]

Deep Snr is absolutely fantastic, especially considering it's free

Saved $50, as I didn't need to buy noisex

[somber aspen]

If only I had pix

[quasi raft]

Have you tried the... tip I suggested?

[somber aspen]

Oh lmao, haven't had the chance. I may not have the "resources" to do it atm.

[left radish]

Which tip?

[somber aspen]

Lmao

[left radish]

?? Please Tell me😭

[humble oasis]

Cmon bro you can figure it out XD

[dense crystal]

1 year ago, today

Vs my last revision of my latest data on the same target

[hexed token]

North American nebula

[warm summit]

Try using the beta version

It should improve the image gradually

Just email dwarf lab

[hexed token]

ok, I'll do that.

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2023

[somber aspen]

Yup, every or every other session there's something new I learned/finally figured out.

In between learning new skills we get that chance to upgrade gear which opens up new possibilities and depths to how and what we image.

[somber aspen]

Yea, that's always the hard part lol

In time in time

[somber aspen]

Nice!

[timber merlin]

Thx:D

[grand flower]

In the span of around a month.

[pulsar inlet]

Nice improvement

[fading flume]

I have two words
holy shit

[fading flume]

Full evolution
#1 taken 10/08/22
#2 taken 11/22/22
#3 taken 3/15/23
#4 taken 10/23/23

[fading flume]

#5 edited 10/23/22

[violet glen]

I’m finally tracked and officially don’t suck at this hobby anymore

I would show a better before and after but all my bad pictures have been deleted and stuffed in google drive

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2023

Stock cam + Lens vs Modified cam + 60mm frac

[timber merlin]

shesh

[sharp lake]

Carina nebula taken from my canon 55-250mm lens (shot at 200mm f/5) and from a canon 70-200mm lens (shot at 200mm f/2.8)

Intergration is 9 mins for both. This shows the power of a fast lens

[earnest hill]

March 2023 to the other night! Same gear (minus L-enhance)

[somber aspen]

Same gear?!

Those two look like two diff optics?

[earnest hill]

yeah (I couldn't get star tracker to work lol)

It's the same camera it might be the 55mm though, let me check

I have an 18-55mm and 75-300

mm

[somber aspen]

Yii ones at 55 and the other is likely at 300. I have that 75-300 and it looks similar.

[earnest hill]

ok sorry the left is at 45mm and right is 300mm

but same kit I meant

[somber aspen]

Oh yii

[earnest hill]

I got it all at the same time

[somber aspen]

Nice core on Orion btw

Pretty natural HDR

[earnest hill]

thanks, I did two seperate stacks to make sure not to overexpose

I think like 20x 30s and 14?x 180s

[somber aspen]

Dam

[untold drum]

How does the decon know what's real? Like if you compare it to a hubble image of the same region, would the dust details vary?

[peak thorn]

1 month difference of Saturn

[humble oasis]

Deconvolution doesnt "add" details, it uses your stars in the image to create a map of the predicted atmospheric conditions and inverts that map effectively making the atmospheric conditions "flat" so there is no blurring from them

[untold drum]

Wow. That's cool

[hazy steeple]

With blurx no

[elfin patrol]

gear for the better shot?

[quasi raft]

Roki, skyview pro, 533mc

[vestal pike]

First vs latest

Same thing for Uranus

[half whale]

1st jupiter - 26th December 2022
2nd jupiter- 4th November 2023
1st saturn, 1st August 2023
2nd saturn, 14th August 2023
1st moon - 14th April 2022
2nd moon - 5th May 2023

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2023

[night scarab]

is this lucky imaged, because if not you got some great seing on that night

[hazy steeple]

Not lucky imaged and seeing was bad

[fading flume]

BlurX turns all seeing into good seeing by subtracting the atmosphere from the image

[fading flume]

How long have you been doing astro?

[hazy steeple]

I ve seen good seeing vs bad seeing bx. not nearly the same

[fading flume]

I'm guessing 1-2 years

[fading flume]

Oh wait can you show that if you can? I'm curious

[hazy steeple]

yeah Ill eat then send when I find it

[somber aspen]

Yea around 2.5yrs

[fading flume]

Nice

Do you have an earlier image of m45?

[somber aspen]

Uhh not on my phone

I actually can't remember if I did m45 untracked

[oblique bear]

~1 year of progress

[tacit quarry]

2021 vs 2023

[weary laurel]

2022 vs 2023

[violet glen]

2021-2022 vs 2023
Both with unmodded dslr and 2 hours

[humble oasis]

Just under a year of progression
First image: Jan 2023, Astromaster 80MM F11, HEQ 5 pro unguided, Nikon D3500
Second image: Nov 2023, Quattro 150P, HEQ 5 pro guided, Nikon D3500 full spectrum

[woeful marsh]

2019: stock dslr, astronomik cls
2021: Optolong l extreme, cooled osc
2023: cooled monochrome sho filters

[jade apex]

First moon pic and most recent im still a beginner though

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2023

[boreal sparrow]

First image my first exposure to moon photography in 2022november start and second image is last month's click and the third image is September 2023 image. First 2 are single image and third is composite moon

[sly hemlock]

August 2021 vs November 2023

[grand flower]

Top: Leo Triplet
Bottom: Cigar Galaxy

Close-up of Cigar

[vestal pike]

Gina try to get a better shot tonight but school might come in the way but anyways, this is abt 2 years appart iirc?

[fading flume]

First image, first stack, latest image (not the same target)

[grand flower]

all reflection nebulae

[sturdy relic]

2019 vs 2022

[night scarab]

Same data, I think its improved but thats up to yall to decide because once I've started ap I've realised that I'm colour blind

left is the new

[fading flume]

From a decent image to one of the best images ive seen on this target

Maybe the best

[hazy steeple]

Thank you. Im happy people like it. Took me quite a while to get it right.

[orchid sapphire]

my first Jupiter in July and my best one in September, although the visual was the same quality

[untold drum]

Ring nebula is from this June and banded one is from a month ago. Dw, I got everything fixed, just need time and clear skies

[hexed token]

Wow, what software did you use?

[hazy steeple]

10” Truss Tube RC, asi294mc

[night scarab]

mans like: what software?
Matija: lists hardware

[hazy steeple]

(Im I’m in school and didn’t really read the message)

[hazy steeple]

DSS, Photoshop and Pixinsight

[grand flower]

Near the start of the year to just recently

First image taken with 5” dob”
Second with a 8” dob

Both taken with Canon 200DII

[earnest hill]

Only 4 months apart, same gear only the right one has an l-enhance filter

[hexed token]

Thanks

[humble oasis]

Processing progress of a year, BAT NGC 891 data
Old: 25/12/2022
New: 07/12/2023

Old: 31/12/2022
New: 15/11/2023

[undone imp]

isnt the right image a bit oversharpened?

[humble oasis]

Thats the old one lol

[undone imp]

bruh

[undone imp]

and those? which is which?

[humble oasis]

Have a look some gots black dark rings around stars, bad colours, ones got nice colours and sharp core

[undone imp]

oh

lol

[undone imp]

all your images are just fire🔥 what can i do😭

[humble oasis]

Haha thanks! but they was BADDDD

[hazy steeple]

Which of these two is new?

[humble oasis]

Which looks best, natural, sharp, nice stars without dark rings around stars, oversharpening,big stars lol

Take a closer look, unrealistic colours, dark rings around stars, oversharpened, background galaxies colours are off, background is bright, under saturated, core shows about 8 “black holes” from oversharpening

[hazy steeple]

Im at school. We have bad wifi. I cant see. Just tell.

[undone imp]

I mean

He has a point

[night scarab]

I love the colours of the right one

[hazy steeple]

surely not this one?

[cloud leaf]

3 months difference

[night scarab]

it looks bad ftom afar but I like it when its zoomed in

[night scarab]

ye?

overall its better than the one on the left even if less sharp

[hazy steeple]

aggressive denoise is certainly not something I like

[night scarab]

didnt say it was perfect I just liked the colours more

[hazy steeple]

personal preference or not, there is only one channel in this image that looks normal

[night scarab]

so what? if it looks good it looks good

[eternal dragon]

dust lanes

[humble oasis]

When it comes to 40-100 hours of data, the channels should look different unless you don’t like colour

And to be clear it also isn’t over saturated, when it comes to such data you can have saturation a lot higher, as it won’t add noise or colour varieties like it would on 5 hours of data, the colours aren’t patchy, showing its not over saturated

So to say one channel looks “normal” no, it’s that way unless you want a fully white image, with no variety in colour, imagine setting L channel to RGB, there’s a reason they are different

Sure, like the completely wrong, unnatural image, that’s your choice not mine (:

[hazy steeple]

OK I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Regardless of that, this is what the galaxy actually looks like

[humble oasis]

Mhm

If you don’t like stretching

[hazy steeple]

[humble oasis]

Cmon man the spirals are barely there, and I can guarantee if you want those spirals out more, which you would on 30-100 hours, you’d end up with a much lighter/brighter blue

[hazy steeple]

Right, sorry Mr Block

[humble oasis]

Just saying I don’t appreciate a very unstretched intake as a representation comparing to a lot of data

[humble oasis]

Galaxies aren’t naturally purple bro

That ain’t natural

Even the stars are purple in that image

[hazy steeple]

nor are they cyan

[humble oasis]

Sure, but that isn’t a natural colour, look at stars from many other images, they aren’t that dark of a blue for a reason, and galaxies colours come from the blue stars in them, making it the same colour

[hazy steeple]

this is the very real color

[humble oasis]

But the arms aren’t stretched enough, which again stretching would make it a lighter blue overall

Feel free to process the data for yourself

[hazy steeple]

Im buying these filters

[humble oasis]

Blues are significantly lighter lol what filters are they?

[hazy steeple]

Sloan

[humble oasis]

Bros made of money

[hazy steeple]

600eur/ filter

for the 2"

like good NB filters

not that much

[humble oasis]

“Not that much” all 3 of those filters is worth my C8, OAG, 120Mm mini, and D3500

Only 1,800 eur, not that much honestly

Really cheap, low end equipment actually

[hazy steeple]

again, as much as most higher tier astrophotographers spend on Ha, Sii and Oiii

[humble oasis]

Yeah really cheap though, super cheap

[hazy steeple]

Imma do photometry so its even more justified

[humble oasis]

Fair

[humble oasis]

I’ll stick to my £150 L-enhance honestly

Nah but fr for that price I could get a QHY 294M, EFW, LRGB filters

Used ofc

[hazy steeple]

I dont disagree but 600e/professional photometric filter isnt terrible

[humble oasis]

It’s not tbf

[hazy steeple]

My data is gross. 3h aint enough @humble oasis

I got some IFN tho

[humble oasis]

Mmm, but these channels, only 1 looks normal

[hazy steeple]

no red is ok

blue is fcuked

[humble oasis]

Cores pretty much gone wdym?

[hazy steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1056370885470199918.webp?size=48&name=clueless~1&quality=lossless

[humble oasis]

But my point is regardless of colour the blue should always have brighter outer edges because theres BLUE SPIRALS, not red, not green

Blue

[hazy steeple]

blue

[humble oasis]

My problem wasnt the blue channel, it was the green, i stretched that too far and gave myself a luminous blue colour

Just for example by stretching the green a touch more

So blue channel actually does look fine, just my image came out with a too strong green channel lol

[fading flume]

Hey I gotta side with the others. The blue in the new NGC7331 looks really un natural

And generally all the colors

[fading flume]

The one on the right looks good. But the core should be white I believe

This is how NGC7331 is meant to look

I know its correct because Lux has seen the image and he didn't critique the color. Lux cares a lot about color

[humble oasis]

You cant see the colour of your core because of the brightness though, so theres no colour to be judged lol im more than happy to get Lux`s opinion on it, see if colours are that far off

And again, comparing a process of like 3-6 hours of data to 30-100 is very different in terms of what colours will really come out, and how smoothly they come out

[fading flume]

But you can see the color?

More data should lead to better colors anyway

[humble oasis]

In yours? No if it wasn’t that bright maybe a colour could shine through lol, if somethings to bright it will just be white

Anyway I’m gonna sleep now because arguing while being sleepy won’t work very well and I’ll start speaking simlish after awhile

But @plucky plank feel free to tell me how wrong I am when I wake up

[plucky plank]

dust bands

in the core

yellow brown

[undone imp]

This is from Hubble

This seems like the right color

[night scarab]

that's cgi! flerf 4 ever!

[undone imp]

What is flerf?

[night scarab]

flat earth

[quasi raft]

November 2022 vs December 2023

[plucky plank]

yeah sure

[night scarab]

You mean yellow dark orange?

[plucky plank]

sure

you get it

[humble oasis]

Ok feel as if i shouldve uploaded this before hand XD @plucky plank what is right and wrong about this image and its processing?

[fading flume]

The color looks painted on

[night scarab]

and I love it!

[cloud leaf]

okay how come i haven’t seen this hubble image before?

this looks awesome

[plucky plank]

looks unatural with sharpness and softness

too soft apart from core structure

[humble oasis]

So nothings wrong with the colour at all? the sharpness is from adding the LI data, but yeah it hasnt got a good transition

[plucky plank]

color a bit too much imo

less saturation would not hurt

[humble oasis]

Agreed, but the blues arent too light? the core is also supposed to have blue? just wondering from all the "moaning" ive had because the blues are "too light" (Are the colours natural besides the saturation)

[plucky plank]

idk if u did spcc it should be correct

[humble oasis]

I did not, but i feel my colours are more natural than what Matija was saying was "natural" (the images below) and saying mine wasnt, and who better to ask than you lol who usually goes for most natural results

[hazy steeple]

dont mix up my words now. Both of ARE real color but done with Sloan filters!

SPCC done in both

lets be exact here

This ismage IS 100% REAL COLOR done with RGB filters

If you dont like it, its on you

[humble oasis]

Uh huh, so if you wasnt using the other images as examples of "true colour" why did you even add them? so its not im mixing up my words if you decided to add images that arent relevant to the conversation

[hazy steeple]

To show you which filters im buying

[humble oasis]

Never said i didnt like it, i said i dont believe its true colour, hence why this has started, my question is, why is other galaxies have these light blue colours like my process, like M51, M81, M106 etc etc etc etc etc etc, but ONLY NGC 7331 has the darker blues, and not the same colour as stars?

[humble oasis]

Ahh i see, my bad lol

[hazy steeple]

hence this very obvious explanation

[humble oasis]

.

[hazy steeple]

Different composition, age, history, who knows. SPCC doesn't lie

[humble oasis]

Did you process the image? despite if SPCC is run, colours can be lost/added by the processor, regardless of what was previously done

All it takes is 1 colour channel to be changed the slightest for colours to be completely changed

[hazy steeple]

No but probably the most capable and trustworthy person in this hobby did. One that makes a video telling everyone that their colors arent real, so I think he holds the fact that his images have perfect colors in high regard. If you wanna argue with him go ahead.

I admit that I add in color to my images due to the lack of expusure time but when you have a 0.8m telescope and 350 clear nights a year, thats not a problem

Process images however you want but the color is very off objectively

To finish it off, NGC7331 is dark blue/ purple

[hazy steeple]

you probably never saw a real color M51 before

[humble oasis]

Well quick searches say that M51, M81, NGC 7331 all share the same wavelengths of light in the blue (445nm) and to say that just destretching my image shows the significantly darker blues that adams block has (more saturated again from my processing)

Its purely stretching based

[hazy steeple]

.

[humble oasis]

M51 is not purple

[hazy steeple]

this is the one he posted

[humble oasis]

if you try say thats blue, no, M51, M81, NGC 7331 all sit around the 445nm wavelength for their blue colours, thats purple

[humble oasis]

Thats better yeah, its still a light blue like most M51s

[humble oasis]

M81 is not purple

They are very different colours between that M51 and this M81 image, and they are supposed to be the same blue wavelength of light

so one of the 2 is off

[hazy steeple]

yeah, sorry ur right

https://noirlab.edu/public/about/history-of-noao/

go educate them

silly scientists posting wrong color galaxies

goofers

[humble oasis]

Uh huh, so that also means your adam block thing is ALSO wrong considering Adams has a more blue colour, silly adam who goes for precise colours that got it wrong

[hazy steeple]

Bat somehow made it skin color

[humble oasis]

And that mine and Adams are pretty much on par, silly me and Adam

[hazy steeple]

more expousure time = more blue color https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1065024222046457986.webp?size=48&name=negativesocialcredit&quality=lossless

[humble oasis]

So more blue=more purple? got it

[hazy steeple]

yeah

[humble oasis]

Mmm

Next time hubble gives blue colours ill be sure to let NASA know that its actually wrong

its meant to be purple

as all these blue galaxy was always purple

[hazy steeple]

Sure hubble images are equally as credible as photometric data

is that GREEN in a HUBBLE image?! surely not

also

[humble oasis]

Heres the colour difference for ya between your M81s and hubbles NGC 7331

Hubble

2 M81s

Adam blocks, mine, hubbles

[hazy steeple]

are you fcuking blind

31 by 31 average

yeah same shit

[humble oasis]

Suddenly

By chance that i DESTRETCH and DESATURATE mine

Oh wow

look at that

They are pretty much the same

hmmmmmm

almost like what i was saying about the saturation and stretching

WAS TRUE

[hazy steeple]

is that so

mind sharing exact curves as files?

even if I nuke his I cant match yours after de-stretch and de-saturation

[humble oasis]

Here

apply both of those 1 time, feel free to open and check that they dont involve a colour change at all

If you apply the desaturation 2 times, it actually looks closer than the first example i sent

And here for the people without pix or dont wanna download and open images to apply random process to one of them lol

No change

Destretch

Destretch plus desaturation

Destretch plus desaturation 2x

And for even more clarification

Stretching and saturating adams looks also extremely identical, even with the extreme JPEG compression

Really odd this

[hazy steeple]

not even close

still no

[hazy steeple]

also no

[humble oasis]

Oddly enough, its almost like i said, "are pretty much on par" not EXACT, close too, they are extremely identical, pixel values for a average wont work well because of the very odvious JPEG compression, making different coloured pixels, so ofc thatll have a different regardless, but no they are not "exact" but they are way closer than your scientific purple M81 images you was showing

[hazy steeple]

put it in the same place

[humble oasis]

The mouse? it is in the same place

[hazy steeple]

put iut here

[humble oasis]

Good?

I was slightly off hang on

[plucky plank]

bad

[somber aspen]

Tbh this is nice

[hazy steeple]

Hell no

[somber aspen]

So the majority of the outer arms are blue?

I thought m81 was spectrographically on the warmer side.

[humble oasis]

Theres alot going on whats the bad part XD

[humble oasis]

https://theskylive.com/sky/deepsky/messier-81-bodes-galaxy-object#photometry Heres a article on its photometry, does have the wavelengths of 445 for the blues and 551 for the yellows

[humble oasis]

So is this the realistic colours of M81?

[hazy steeple]

green Ha

[humble oasis]

No

[hazy steeple]

wrong image

[humble oasis]

XD

[night scarab]

I'd tell you guys to make a thread but for some reason you can't do that here

[humble oasis]

Oddly enough its almost like we are in a thread XD

Well its a forum but still

[untold drum]

Bro just make a thread lol

[modest swallow]

1 year progress.
1st image: 3x1s exp. 114/900, phone
2nd image: 1x20s exp. 114/900, phone, with lego tracker

[grand flower]

wth is a lego tracker

[fading flume]

WAIT

You're the guy who made the lego eq1

[tacit quarry]

The tracking looks pretty good

[quasi raft]

That is the ultimate chad move

It is hard to articulate how amazing that is

Was it motorized?

[somber aspen]

Seriously surprising

Excellent work

[modest swallow]

I motorized my mount with lego

It's just a star tracker, not a goto

I do the majority of AP from my room, which is facing eastwards, so I usually have to eyeball it

[fading flume]

i cant believe that actually works and gives round stars

[pulsar inlet]

It's the rubber band in the setup that makes it. Translates wonky gear whiplash into smooth movement.

[fading flume]

rubber band drive

[modest swallow]

In reality I get something like 1 good sub out of 2 but I still have to "tune it"

[modest swallow]

"belt modded"

[fading flume]

not even bad

[modest swallow]

1 out of 2 on a good day. When the temperature drops too low (5°) the grease in the gears "freezes" and I encounter issues

[modest swallow]

I have to change it one of these days

[fading flume]

Yeah mounts like these have the worst grease imaginable

[modest swallow]

Considering it has never been changed from the 70s is even worse

[somber aspen]

The grease in my 20yr old mount (which had been changed by the previous owner) had turned into a waxy grit that I had to scrape off the worm gear and worm drive.

In dec

[modest swallow]

ew

mine is more like a dust+grease paste

[somber aspen]

Indeed

[modest swallow]

now I also need to sand a worm gear because the metal kinda crumbled and bent in one spot and this causes the the tracking to "jump"

[fading flume]

honestly it would be so much better to just buy a better mount at that point

[modest swallow]

If I can fix it I'll fix it, when it'll finally break I'll replaced it

Also because I'm 16 and I'm not swimming in a river of cash

[fading flume]

if you're going to spend >$100 get a used mount head like an eq3

hell on CN i saw an eq3 sell for $80 the other day

[modest swallow]

No way

[fading flume]

and if you like DIY, you'd enjoy motorize an eq3 with onstep

[modest swallow]

I'll see

I'm considering to upgrade the whole rig in the future so I'll see if the eq-3 is the right choice

[violet glen]

2 years of progression
First one with my phone
Second one with my canon eos 4000d camera, not a finished image but good for comparison (both same scope)

[opal oasis]

Not bad for 4mths progress 😅

[untold drum]

From october to December

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2023

[untold drum]

Wat scope

[hazy steeple]

To continue the NGC891 train

[somber aspen]

Both from my Zenithstar 61 APO

[untold drum]

Nice

[humble oasis]

Also continuing the NGC 891 train

[untold drum]

even better process

at least in my opinion

[hazy steeple]

fake star spikes

https://tenor.com/view/haram-anomaly-lock-sussy-haram-gif-21477600

[somber aspen]

Technically real lol

Just not from a Newtonian

[hazy steeple]

Ill be damned if refractors make star spikes

[hazy steeple]

How did you get them?

[somber aspen]

3D printed mask, about to design a new one actually with thinner veins to more accurately simulate a newt.

Plus friction fit so that it slides into the dew shield

I'll be using it mostly in galaxy season to spice up the image to compensate for lack of focal length/detail.

[hazy steeple]

ah ok

[untold drum]

Do you like my ngc 891 now that I processed it myself?

[hazy steeple]

sure

[somber aspen]

3 months difference lol

[untold drum]

it aint too good lol but its better than just having someone else process lol

how can i better it? less dark? imma add mroe integrtation

[hazy steeple]

Fix the background first

more data is always good

[untold drum]

would the bg get fixed with more int time

[untold drum]

because ein deutscher put it in blurx and noisex, will something like gradientx help?

[hazy steeple]

no. you really need to got at it with masks

[humble oasis]

He uses siril, theres no masks in siril lol

[hazy steeple]

oh

unlucky then

get pix

[untold drum]

yeah...

[humble oasis]

Yeah, the moment they add them is when siril starts getting really good

[untold drum]

can someone mask it or something so i can see how the bg would look like? because i think the bg is wrong cus of the color splotches right?

am i being dum rn? i could try to get pix

wheres that?

i cant find it burh

[somber aspen]

Gimp has masks as far as I know

Masks are a standard in image manipulating software

In Photoshop I used masks all the time

Color mask specifically, set it to highlights or shadows, depending on what you want to mask.

[fading flume]

Ngl

The left image is better

The stars are too intense on the right

[somber aspen]

One on the left was with a duoband filter so yes much less intense.

Wasn't much detail in the background of that data so I decided to go with a rich starfield. Only applied bX and that it's in terms of star red.

Without bX it would have looked good to me for sure.

[uneven zephyr]

these are different sets of data, but the data in the new process is still pretty bad lol, processing tools have improved drastically

Both taken with a 6" SCT

[violet glen]

New scope new me

Had to sacrifice some fov but that can be fixed with rotating the camera

[humble oasis]

God damn thats sharp especially for a 6" SCT

[humble oasis]

Signal is way better! although cant help but notice the lack of colour

[violet glen]

Yea I got lots of artifacts from stacking so I had to process it hard, but I’m restacking as we speak with a different reference frame so it should be better this time

Really happy with the results because the first one has more data in it than the second one so it shows how much better changing scopes helped

[humble oasis]

Nice! yeah artifacts happen, the result definitely got alot more potential than the older one thats for sure

[uneven zephyr]

honestly considering getting an SCT again(sold that one), with blurx 2.0, SCT ‘bloat’ is a lot more manageable and can produce decently sharp images

would probably get an 8” this time, also craving some planetary

[violet glen]

Im gonna get more data tonight but heres a restacked and reprocess version

[somber aspen]

8" RC would be neat.

[uneven zephyr]

true, I just worry about collimation with a solid tube, wish there were more truss 8" RCs around

[somber aspen]

Found a 8" RC on CN with a carbon OTA.

[humble oasis]

From the very start of 2023 to the very end of 2023
Old: 24x2m exposures, Astromaster 80mm F11 frac
New: 50x2m exposures: Quattro 150p

[somber aspen]

Delightful colors

Can't wait to revisit this trio

[winged fjord]

December 25th 2022 Untracked Canon 5D II, Roki135. December 19th 2023 Redcat51 2600MC. Guess im really invested now

[vernal basin]

[earnest hill]

I love the hdr Orion!

[glacial gulch]

Left:October 25th 2023 10x21 Binoculars 2x (Roughly) Digital Zoom Right: December 25th 2023 20x50 Binoculars with Zero Digital Zoom No phone adapter on left and phone adapter on right

[plucky plank]

2019 vs 2023

[meager nest]

April 2023 vs December 2023

[untold drum]

From March 2023 to Dec 31th

[hexed token]

That’s one hell of an improvement.

[untold drum]

reprocessed dec 31th

[ember pivot]

November 22 > December 23

[ember pivot]

thanks!

[vernal bison]

How it started, vs how it's going.
About a year apart from each other.

It ain't much, but I'm proud of it.

[hexed token]

What equipment did you use? Are the odd looking diffraction spikes a quirk of the gear?

[vernal bison]

So the only equipment I'm using is my phone, a monocular attached to the phone via a Celestron phone adapter, and a smol but sturdy tripod. I'm not actually sure why my phone camera creates singular diffraction spikes, but I've noticed a lot that if I'm taking an image of a sunset or the sun in general with my phone, the sun ends up with very similar diffraction spikes, so it's probably just something to do with the design of the camera, I'd imagine.

I do wonder if I could fashion some attachment for the front of the monocular, similar to the spider that newts use, to give my images normal looking diffraction spikes

[grim mango]

like 6 months of progress

[hexed token]

Whats the black spot?

[narrow hawk]

1 year evolution

[undone imp]

That's insane!

[narrow hawk]

I wish it was 2006 🫓

5 month evolution

[undone imp]

Why

[plucky plank]

filter does that

[narrow hawk]

I wish it was 2006

Why you calling my images bad

[plucky plank]

can i get the name of your dealer, cuz clearly whatever you are smoking is good

[narrow hawk]

Sorry dude I misread ur message, could see half the words lol

[plucky plank]

You showed an improvement, the filter helped out a lot.
No further comment.

[narrow hawk]

Well the first image is a stock dslr, second is a cooled astro cam on a Redcat, with a narrowband filter

I don’t want no argument or beef with you

I think your cool and good at processing

[grim mango]

no idea but it's because i shot it with a phone and an eyepiece

[light star]

3 months apart

i upgraded my setup pretty fast lol

[grim mango]

wow

[naive marsh]

exactly one year and 1 day apart

[neat marsh]

it's holding the phone too close to eyepiece

[soft sentinel]

I am curious. Why are you untracked with a redcat and a cool cam?

[fading flume]

He isn't untracked

He has a swsa 2i but likes to say he's untracked

[light star]

unguided maybe?

[fading flume]

Nah there's a big difference

[light star]

well its not untracked

[untold drum]

First m51 to latest. Literally everything was going wrong with the latest m51 pic but I did surpringly good for all this bs happening: clouds, bad balance with guidescope, 25 sec backlash, poor calibration with phd2, astap not wanting to platesolve randomly, tilt, and it being 3am

[somber aspen]

Latest one is looking solid man, what scope?

[untold drum]

GSO 6 F4

But literally everything was bad lol. I will try again with guiding, and no tilt

[somber aspen]

Nice, what cam?

[untold drum]

Used to be canon rebel t7 but now uranus c pro

[narrow hawk]

Bruh you ain’t my lawyer don’t speak for me

[untold drum]

Wat

Ik it aint good but literally everything was going wrong. Going for secondt attempt soon tho

Here's a list of everything that went wrong: horrible tilt, collimation issues, drift, bad balance shifting, backlash, clouds, it was 3am, astap didn't want to platesolve, phd2 poor calibration, out of focus across night

Ya lol

[agile latch]

About 11 months apart

[dusky moon]

What are these purple artifacts?

[hexed token]

It’s likely from the bright stars nearby, Euclid has the same issue.

[dusky moon]

Oo ye

[plucky plank]

reflection because a nearby bright star

[dusky moon]

Oh alnitak?

[dusky moon]

What type of scope

[plucky plank]

any scope does this on super bright stars

[somber aspen]

Idk mine hasn't shown such flares

Even on alnitak

[plucky plank]

you are not shooting close enough with the star either being on the edge or off axis somewhere

[tacit quarry]

Less than a year of progress

[half whale]

December 26th 2022 to January 10th 2024

(Moons are visible in 2nd image if you click on the photo)

-Same scope but new camera

[peak thorn]

June 23rd, 2023 to January 13th, 2024 Crazy what half a year can do in this hobby\

[grim mango]

I remembered i have an old pinwheel galaxy pic so yeah this is my M 101 progress i guess

[weary laurel]

Only a one month difference with the same gear

[plucky plank]

A difference is there now and a year ago also 533 vs stock 250d

[somber aspen]

I do like the magenta colors with the 250d process

[plucky plank]

i did too, and then i you realise the left image has teh correct Ha

stock dslrs usually tend to get more blues in the image

[somber aspen]

In this case I'd maybe go with something in between the two

It was my understanding that Ha is naturally on the magenta side.

[plucky plank]

Sigma Orionis which is causing the Hα around Horsehead emits Ruby colored deep red.

[narrow hawk]

Same lens, same camera, first is 2hs in bortle 5 second is 1h in bortle 1-2

[eternal dragon]

first image : unguided with zenithstar 61 and uranus c pro broadband , 7th november 2023

2nd image : guided with Redcat 51 , uranus c pro and L enhance , 15th january 2024

[quasi raft]

Ha on its own is quite a deep red (same for sii), but it is usually accompanied by at least a little oiii which gives it more of a magenta look

[plucky plank]

technically true but the magentaesque hue is more from Hβ

especially in nebulae such as the North America where a mix of OIII and Hβ gives it the pink and blue colors

[quasi raft]

Fair, makes sense

I say oiii because that's whats isolated by most people doing narrowband

[undone imp]

tell them to bring out the lobster

[vestal pike]

M31 over a year or 2

[cloud leaf]

Just 2.5 months!

[neat marsh]

is top the newer one?

[wheat lodge]

Looks a little clipped

It really does.

[manic vale]

I'm so grateful this thread was made. I'm just starting to collect the pieces to start doing astrophotography and it's super inspirational seeing the progress everyone has made ♥️

[modest swallow]

Andromeda 3 months progress

[rough edge]

2021 vs 2024

[untold drum]

October 14th 2023 to Jan 27th 2024

[manic vale]

is the first photo a corrupted file? how does that even happen (also WOW that second one is so nice)

[wraith heron]

Looks like failed calibration frames

[wraith heron]

My guess is Ha itself is deep red but H beta is blueish so the two combined makes some kind of magenta. With an astro camera, the Ha is much brighter than the Hbeta so you basically don't see the magenta tint, but with an unmodded dslr a lot of Ha is cut off so the Hbeta (and Oiii at the same time) is proportionally more important, hence the magenta tint

[untold drum]

@manic vale it was no dithering plus canon dslr

[plucky plank]

same camera and scope ?

[hazy steeple]

same camera different scope.

[opal oasis]

6mths difference from my 1st Orion pic to my latest (both same camera and scope, mars c-ii camera and celestron travelscope 80mm)

[plucky plank]

thats a big difference

[opal oasis]

Thanks @plucky plank can't wait to see my difference in another 6mths lol

[plucky plank]

2 years apart, same lens different camera and lots more exposure
150×60″ (2h30') vs 204x300" (17h)

[undone imp]

What Bortle

[plucky plank]

4

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2024

[humble oasis]

2022 to 2024. Framing was bad with the old shot XD
Old: SE mount, Astromaster 80mm F11, Nikon D3500, 1h of 40s exposures, Processed by Hermit(Dylan)

New: HEQ 5 pro guided, Quattro 150p @ F3.45, Nikon D3500 full spectrum, UV/IR cut, Lenhance, Processed by Ratbag152 (Partial NINA user)

Broadband: 10 hours of 120s subs, ISO 800, 0-50% moon

Narrowband: 4h of 180s subs, ISO 1600, 70+% moon

[untold drum]

second one looks rlly nice but i think its oievrly denoised

[humble oasis]

No it was intetionally that way, you dont want noise on high snr areas, which there isnt, but there is noise in low snr areas

[quasi raft]

I agree that you went a little overboard with the denoise on the galaxy itself. What denoise did you use? Very nice image though

[somber aspen]

I'm still stuck in 2023 lmao, realized I had typed 2023.

[undone imp]

what nebula is this?

[somber aspen]

Monkey head

[eternal dragon]

give this guy mega nerd already

[humble oasis]

Maybe a touch, I ran denoise 2 times, 0.70 and 0.40 (on the background) using NoiseX

[untold drum]

Yeah I'm seeing the good old noisex artifacts on his pic

[humble oasis]

If you mean the background is overdenoised? no not at all, the artifacts/small gradients are from overstretching, thatd happen regardless of denoising. But dont mistake the small amount of IFN for denoising artifacts

[untold drum]

hate to be that person but i think its over stretched or denoised since the edge of galaxy shouldnt be looking like that. right one is matijas

[humble oasis]

Yes thats due to overstretching, that wont happen when ive got more data, its a wip so more data is yet to come

[untold drum]

okay. enough chitter chatter then from me lol

[humble oasis]

Lol all good

[plucky plank]

Its not overstretched but sure is overdenoised and weird plotches around the galaxy

nothing you cant solve

[untold drum]

so i was right?

[plucky plank]

nah

[untold drum]

read above

[plucky plank]

u said overstretched

[untold drum]

he said overstretched

[untold drum]

here

[untold drum]

or denoised. but if you scroll more up i was right but then he said it was overtrechesd

anyways lol

[plucky plank]

this also, this is HaLRGB with a frac, and its just enough stretching

[humble oasis]

Yeah the stretching amount is fine if youve got the data, im lacking the data so id class it as overstretching in my image

And for my noise lovers

[plucky plank]

the noise is there because its too saturated

[humble oasis]

The noise was generated by NoiseGenerator

I dont control the saturation

[plucky plank]

nah im saying in the original its cause you saturated too much so there is yellow noise

[humble oasis]

Ahh yeah, its fixable tbf, and more data will also help out with that

[plucky plank]

this is 6h of HaLRGB Esprit 80

[humble oasis]

Camera?

[plucky plank]

183mm

[humble oasis]

Way better than a DSLR XD

[plucky plank]

yea

[humble oasis]

But yeah, this may be my last project with the DSLR, finally gonna be able to change my username to "Full-time NINA user"

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2024 (WIP)

Never thought i'd get an image like this in 2022

[humble oasis]

That IFN

[sharp lake]

June 2023 -> January 2024
This is the same dataset. Both are processed in siril and graxpert

[neat marsh]

went from garish to plesant

[hexed token]

went from looking okay to looking like something I'd put as my desktop wallpaper.

[sharp lake]

Heh, I made it my wallpaper and looks quite nice

[hazy steeple]

a year apart

[somber aspen]

Thanks man, loving this Esprit 80.

Lol thanks, good to hear.

[cloud leaf]

ngc 6946, right?

amazing improvement
really want to shoot this galaxy someday

[viscid vigil]

nice

[vernal bison]

I really love how you formatted both images to line up with each other perfectly, so you can switch between them in the little image carousel at the bottom of discord and see the differences seamlessly

[hexed token]

First ever image of the rosette nebula vs my most recent image of the rosette nebula.

[ember pivot]

Now vs november 22

[pulsar inlet]

September 2022 vs December 2023. Got some help collimating so I thought I'd show a pre-collimated re-processed shot in the group for demonstration purposes.

[viral viper]

The first photo on the left was from when I started my hobby in september last year. I ramshackled an eq with a motor and started takin deepspace with my cellphone, 0 idea what a good image looks like. The image on the right is my lastest ive created (only a couple days ago) and its absolutely stunning, not perfect I could of let it go a bit longer to get more clouds but I am getting a go to system today for that.

[hexed token]

First image of m42 vs most recent

[narrow hawk]

2023 vs 2024
Exact same rig

[balmy gate]

june 2023 vs december 2023
same setup except camera and filter

[earnest hill]

Exactly 1 year ago, on the 13th of February at 22:05, I used my phone and a tripod to take a picture of the night sky, later that same night I got an image of comet C/2022 E3 ZTF through the eyepiece of some binoculars. This is what inspired me to pursue astrophotography. On the right is my favorite image in Auriga.

[plucky plank]

4 years apart

[undone imp]

Left one is better by a far bit. Much nicer colors too

[plucky plank]

the optics and sensor are actually better on the left one

[somber aspen]

2022 VS 2024

[humble oasis]

My biggest improvements from just over a year

[weary laurel]

1 and a half year difference m81 bodes galaxy

[vernal bison]

That barred spiral galaxy is so pretty, which one is that? Like what Messier or NGC

[untold drum]

It's vacuum cleaner galaxy or m109

[vernal bison]

Ah ok, thanks!

I wonder why it's called that, seems like a rather odd name for a galaxy lol

[neat marsh]

why did the galaxy move between pictures??? i dont think they do that

[hexed token]

maybe they removed the stars and when they added them back in they messed up and put them in the wrong place.

[humble oasis]

Haha it is beautiful, as beaver said it’s M109

[humble oasis]

Honestly not sure, think MrHuman may be correct I’ll have to double check this in a bit

[untold drum]

Ouldnt it just be more data which revealed fainter arms?

[humble oasis]

No this is definitely a processing mistake, the image was star aligned to the old FOV, and the stars are in the same spot, but the galaxies have moved, this was a huge huge processing error by me

Linear stack aligned to reprocessed image, you can see the difference between the stars

Welp, gotta reprocess it XD

[untold drum]

XD

[humble oasis]

From my first ever image tracked and with a proper cam, in june 2022, to April 2023, to February 2024

[pulsar inlet]

Was the second one done with a filter?

[fading flume]

No filters

[pulsar inlet]

Wow, that second one is BRIGHT and COLORFUL.

[viscid vigil]

DSLR vs Mono setup

[olive spade]

Here are some of my before and after images of the past year

The link is just a raw image of Orion that I got from my phone

[fathom zealot]

what telescope was used for the jupiter img?

[cold swallow]

my first image of the stars, and one of my most recent photos, the Polaris IFN

[cold swallow]

here's the telescopius link so y'all can see it without downloading: https://telescopius.com/pictures/view/180003/deep_sky/NGC/188/open-cluster/by-pikalution?gallery_user_id=48978&gallery_order=is_featured

[olive spade]

8 inch dob with ZWO asi585mc

[vernal basin]

whoa, is that eta carina?

[sharp lake]

No it's you turning the light on in the middle of the night

[sly hemlock]

yup

[broken cairn]

It honestly all started with my phone taking exposures in the night sky

Possibly my first ever exposure, taken in mexico

[jagged gale]

What target is the one on the right?

[broken cairn]

ASI294MM Pro Bin 2, Esprit 120 ED

[broken cairn]

Barnard 30

[vernal basin]

22-2-23 to 10-2-24 (one year apart)

both using my heritage 130
first one is untracked and using cellphone

second one is "tracked" (it's an azgti in alt az ) and using the uranus-c. both images arround 15-20 minutes

[uneven lantern]

One was with my phone and the other two with my main telescope

[weary laurel]

Whats this galaxy?

Nevermind i cant image it

[vernal basin]

cent a

[vernal basin]

huh?

[weary laurel]

Im on the northern hemisphere so its not even above the horizon

[weary laurel]

Man you deserve nerd beacuse thats one good image of centauri a

[vernal basin]

oh i thought you said "imagine it" lol

[vernal basin]

nah, you think so?

that's really inspiring because today i had a very bad night dealing with my mount and wondering if i'm suffering of sunken cost with this hobby

ty

[weary laurel]

I mean yeah, i have problems with my modded eq2 mount and everything and i managed to capture m81 and m82. I still dont know how i became a nerd

[hexed token]

Wow

[undone imp]

1 year of difference

[orchid sapphire]

I also have the same question

[undone imp]

Wdym by that?

[fading flume]

heritage?

[vernal basin]

the heritages have this neat function of being collapsible so it allows you to bring the secondary closer, efectively you can focus with that

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2024

Another 2022 vs 2024

[undone imp]

I used a Coma corrector with the correct backfocus (you‘ll need to see what works). Besides the backfocus, I don‘t use any spacers

Or extension tubes

[undone imp]

EOS 7D Mk ii

[balmy gate]

first time doing orion core compared to my most recent one
9-13-23 | 2-15-24
same setup

[weary laurel]

Why are the brighter stars flaring to the one side? Maybe you're out of collimation

[grand flower]

To me it appears to be similar to the incorrect Dew-heater power level abberation that I had issues with earlier this year

Zoom in to the triple stars below the trapezium, you'll see it

[neat marsh]

most recent set of improvements, also aided by the brightening of the comet so dont know how that factors in. both 12p. might actually just be it getting brighter lol

[weary laurel]

Oh ye i see it

[grim mango]

Hubble

[violet glen]

2022 and 2024

[modest swallow]

same data, better processing (2 months apart)

[humble oasis]

I feel some big improvements coming along
Old: Celestron C8 @ F10, Nikon D3500 full spectrum, HEQ5 pro, 2h 50m
New: Celestron C8 @ F7, ASI 294MC pro, HEQ 5 pro, 2h 30m

[acoustic schooner]

My first ever serious attempt at astro vs this milky way i shot back in july

[sharp lake]

e

my first ever shooting of carina compared to my recnet

used to think this was the best image i took but ive gotton a lot better since then

[fading flume]

Damn

An untracked image that actually kinda holds up if you zoom in

[sharp lake]

that image isnt done yet

[fading flume]

DeepSNR?

[sharp lake]

when its newmoon, gonna borrow the f2.8 lens and get more

and that too ill do

[fading flume]

It looked pretty soft so I figured not used it

[sharp lake]

yea havent stacked this data in deepsnr yet

will do nextmonth since im on holidays

[narrow hawk]

Ok he is a more serious comparison broadband on broadband (second is with a ha Addition to the broadband though)

[narrow hawk]

You got me bro 🙌

[olive spade]

What equipment did you use for this?

[sharp lake]

1st ever orion photo compared to my most recent

same lens

[acoustic schooner]

My phone, an S20FE

[wheat jasper]

SMC exactly a year apart. left is my first ever deep sky object, Nov 22, right is the exact same setup (with actually a worse mount!) Nov 23

[warm summit]

9 months difference

[sharp lake]

I need to reshoot lmc when I'm tracked...my untracked version wasn't very good

[acoustic schooner]

Difference made by 15 minutes of research and learning when processing my first ever orion

Same for my first Carina

All taken last night on my D5300 with:
-7 and 9 subs respectively
-1.3s exposure each
-6.3f
-8000 iso

[outer pebble]

first orion vs latest

latest one was shot with a uranus-c camera and an untracked 8” dob

[sharp lake]

first orion and my most recent

[acoustic schooner]

First carina vs my most recent

[neat marsh]

1st on the left?

[acoustic schooner]

Yes

[neat marsh]

i think its better

where did the green come from??? why is it purple?? why does it look so jpeg???

i guess the new one has more detail but why does it look so garish????

[acoustic schooner]

Green noise, couldnt really remove it, and ofc it look jpeg, it became one after i edited the raw image

[acoustic schooner]

Probably because i had to use more noise reduction and stuff like that

But i learned more for next time so its great in the end

[grand flower]

Same scope, integration, different camera, and wavelengths.

A7III Vs ASI2400

[vernal basin]

neat

[manic vale]

2 months difference (first ever picture to most recent)
Bortle: 7
Captured on my phone OPPO Reno Z

[violet glen]

I took the andromeda one at 55mm because I didn’t have a good mount yet, now I’m doing m81 at 650mm

Don’t mind the stars in m81, forgot to do collimation

[grand flower]

3 years progress :) I'm delighted

[meager nest]

march 3 vs april 4
lol first picture still has better detail

[wheat jasper]

why does the how-its-going orion look so clapped😢

i swear its more detailed than that

[sly hemlock]

Centaurus A was basically the first astrophoto I took.

[neat marsh]

still not enough data lmao

[somber aspen]

2022 vs 2024

[neat marsh]

i kinda like the colours on 2022 more

[vernal bison]

It's still an improvement though!

[plain parcel]

2023 vs 2024

[fading flume]

The new m51 is nice. But get more data. I see a lot of potential

And spend some more time on focus

[somber aspen]

Because it looks more natural?

I can understand that... But the dust in my 2022 image was terrible

[neat marsh]

yeah i like the natural ness of it

the dust on the right is better but the actual focus of thr image (as in the part you look at first) IE the core orion nebula just looks wrong (in my opinion)

[tacit quarry]

Imo it is way too pink, but looks really good overall

This part in specific is just amazing

[somber aspen]

I will say sat could have been toned down a bit on the outer pink areas around the core. But yea it's mono data so I like to get the most out of it lol.

Eye-catching colors.

Also those are PCC colors + saturation. Accurate but punchy.

[somber aspen]

Idk what you mean by wrong tbh, little over saturated I will admit but colors are corrected via pix photometric color calibration.

[tacit quarry]

Lol I can see why someone would like this, and part of me does. It looks weird but pretty at the same time 🤣

The runningman is just insane. It is the definition of perfect 😁

[somber aspen]

Ty, and yea makes sense.

[weary laurel]

Only a month difference

[wheat jasper]

idk guys, i think @somber aspen 's current processing skill are among if not my favourite on the server

personally i think the new image is leagues better

despite the 2022 already being a great image

i dont think ive ever seen colours and HDR managed so well

the only drawback for me is its lacking detail a bit in the core, but i think thats more equipment issues

[somber aspen]

I can agree, and thanks lol.

[somber aspen]

The trapezium region or the core in general?

The trap was at a different sampling ratio (diff equipment)

Slightly less detailed

Wish I'd gotten shorter subs lol

With the esprit

[wheat jasper]

oh ok, it seems to gradually get smoother towards the core

esprit seems like such a generally solid scope

all the images i see from it are top notch

[somber aspen]

It is, I can't wait to get it out in dark skies.

[broken cairn]

definitely a great scope, albeit a bit heavy

22lb by itself

[undone imp]

little over 1 year of difference!

[wheat jasper]

eh thats fine, have a eq6r-p

[pure mesa]

Best photo of Orion I have ever seen so far…. How do u get those colors man? DAMN.

[somber aspen]

Not the esprit 80 lmao

Sounds like the 150

Which is massive indeed

[somber aspen]

Good clean monochrome data with proper color calibration and careful processing along with a good boost in saturation at the end (usually in Photoshop) will do great.

[vagrant kite]

2020, 2022 - Andromeda
A7rii 85mm tripod - 900 photos 1.8s (adjusted tripod to center every 10 mins), bortle 4
Vs
Rasa 8, r, g, b filters, ASI294MM, eq6r pro, 30s subs, 6hrs per filter, bortle 9 (Chicago)

[winged locust]

My progress so far:
July 2023 - Sony a6000, 8 inch newt (C8-N) with Celestron AVX
April 2024 - Neptune-C II, 6 inch newt (150pds) with hypertuned AVX
both in bortle 9
also big change in editing software's used

[grand flower]

I would love to hypertune my avx one day

Beautiful results man

[winged locust]

thanks! i got mine done with OC telescope, definitely has helped a lot but it's still an avx sometimes haha

[grand flower]

I should visit them sometime. That's where I got my avx, which was supposedly regreased or smth

[winged locust]

oh yea i think they have like a stage 1 and 2, they did a great job with mine! i got the stage 2

[grand flower]

ah neat

what's the difference between stages 1 & 2?

[winged locust]

i think stage 1 is they replace the ra bearing and some other stuff then retune it, stage 2 i believe they also switch out some bearings for the gear in dec axis

[grand flower]

I got the stage 1 then lol

[winged locust]

haha, probably, i'm sure its much better than stage 0 lol

[winged locust]

are you going to post your new m101 pic in deep space pics, would love to see it! that is some great progress

[grand flower]

Thanks so much :) I'll post it once I can blurx it. Also I wanna work on star colors a lil

[winged locust]

ah i see, looking forwards to it! What bortle was this shot at?

[grand flower]

B3-4, I was there with some buddies

It got real windy tho, so I lost over half of my 5hrs unfortunately :/

[winged locust]

oh nice, well it's turning out really good even though you lost 5hrs! that happened to me once too but i made like a little wind barrier tent so i can image in the wind too lol

[grand flower]

I should really invest in a box-shaped tent like I've seen some guys do

[winged locust]

yea it helps out a lot, i made mine out of pvc pipe and a big tarp, i used it like a few weeks ago with 35mph winds and my guiding was not even affected by it

[grand flower]

impressive :0

[winged locust]

yea, it was flexing a lot though which was kinda scary haha

[grand flower]

true. We had to use a car to block the wind once 😭

It worked, so what can I say lmao

[winged locust]

hey i mean as long as it works haha

[pure mesa]

Thank you so much!

[untold current]

2021 December, 4" Bird Jones, 1:30 exposure on a Google pixel 3

2024 April 14, Celestron 8SE ASI533MC pro

[delicate coral]

First vs newest Jupiter (The telescope didn't have an eyepiece in it with the first Jupiter picture I took)

[violet glen]

3-4 year difference

[pure mesa]

Nice

[ionic forge]

Jupiter when I started vs. Jupiter now.

[olive spade]

What scope are you using now if you don’t mind me asking?

[ionic forge]

8 inch dobsonian

and zwo asi120mc-s camera

[olive spade]

Right on, did you use sharpcap? Because I find my image of Jupiter didn’t come out that great and I have and 8” dob with a 585mc

[ionic forge]

captured in ASICap

I used to use ASICap but now I use FireCapture

I took that image back when I used ASICap tho

[olive spade]

Oh okay well good stuff, did you put this through AS3! Or did you use the ASI Studio planetary stacker? For that image

[ionic forge]

Pipp, then AS!3, then registax. I think most of the reason for the sharp image is I had ridiculously good seeing that night

[olive spade]

Dang okay well great image, I’ll have to try recapturing Jupiter a couple more times then and hopefully get some better seeing conditions but unfortunately planet season starts around august 😐 and even then I’ll have to be out at around 3 am to get anything

[acoustic schooner]

3 weeks of learning

I will need a bette computer

[dense crystal]

1 year apart from each image just about.

[untold current]

April 14th VS April 26
I'm still improving on capturing the pinwheel galaxy. Once I finally figure out how to use stacking software correctly

[modest swallow]

Impressive progress, considering they're only 12 days apart!

So, those are single subs?

[untold current]

nope, the left was 7.5 minutes of 5 second subs in the wind, the right is 60 minutes of 10 second subs in calmer weather

[scarlet prairie]

I know that the progress is not the best, but the first photo was taken in October 2023 and the second in April 2024. During this time, I made a huge leap for myself in astrophotography from “Let’s take a photo of a star” to “What kind of object would I photograph when I leave the city 150 km away?”

[humble oasis]

Slight changes
Old: Celestron C8 @F10, Nikon D3500 full spectrum unfiltered. 2h 30m
New: Celestron C8 @F6.3, ASI 294MC pro, Lenhance, 2h 10m

[somber aspen]

Lovely improvement

[eternal dragon]

thankyou very much mate

[marsh fulcrum]

I got this telescope a couple weeks ago, and these photos were taken a week and a half apart

I've improved a lot in just a few weeks