Phone Astrophotography

[untold ingot]

tbh the orange circle being flame is understandable

[lean magnet]

just get more int

so you dont have to be doing this to say its there

[untold ingot]

its like 30 ish pics of 15s

at bortle 6

no tracking

on phone (no scope)

[lean magnet]

no shit

[untold ingot]

pointed tripod at sky

got thos

im happy

[lean magnet]

from b7

on samsung s20

[untold ingot]

nice

[lean magnet]

not a good image but flame and horse clearyl visible

[untold ingot]

whats the red thing

[lean magnet]

which

[untold ingot]

ihh

uh

two red splotch next to yellow dot

[lean magnet]

these?

[lean magnet]

i forgot its name

[untold ingot]

ye

[lean magnet]

that red blob on the left

idk what it is called

[lean magnet]

yellow dot is jupiter photobombing the image btw

[untold ingot]

[lean magnet]

i will maybe return to phone ap with s25 ultra

[untold ingot]

nice

[spice gale]

Whaaaa

Thats so good

[spice gale]

@iron bear sorry for tagging but is this the eyepiece you have

[iron bear]

No problem! Yep… the SVBONY 18mm UFF
It’s the best eyepiece I’ve ever used

[spice gale]

Good to know, thanks

I want to upgrade my main eyepiece and was looking for something around 30mm, but this one has a fov of 65 i think so it still should be fine

Also from what i saw on your subs the edges are super sharp

[zealous edge]

That would be Sh 2-264, or the Lambda Orionis Ring

[lean magnet]

I was so close

Knew it was a sharpless 200 something

[dry falcon]

Horse head nebula 😅

[ivory thunder]

more moon

[dusk crow]

Zooming into the Moon

[spice gale]

Nice

[dusk crow]

My HDR Moon, I can’t place the darks site perfectly

[zealous edge]

Oh wow, really good seeing

[frank jungle]

Single 30 sec exposure of Orion Nebula and Pleiades

[scenic glen]

Cool

[dusk crow]

4,5“ Newton
166x magnification

[clear frost]

Uranus

[clear frost]

Moon through iPhone

It’s very interesting I can see flame nebula visually with averted vision in good seeing with the 24”

[ivory thunder]

it's def there
faint but visible

[formal notch]

Yeah

[fading bobcat]

Some of yall are making me miss phone ap holy crap

In the 3 years ive been doing AP, the biggest change in the hobby has been from smartphone AP

[zealous edge]

since everyone else is doing it, my best captures of 2025, all with my Orion StarBlast and/or iPhone 12

oh actually no, the sun video was with my DIY solar telescope made from an old spotting scope, not my StarBlast.

[spice gale]

Lovely

[ivory thunder]

i might as well too lmao
my best of 2025, all with a Samsung s20 ultra (except a6, that was with a random pair of birdwatching binocs)

[spice gale]

Alright fine I’ll do it too, used the iphone 15 pro in every image except the moon and saturn occultation, sw dobson heritage 150mm, all of them are also in bortle 3-4 except the orion and the moons

[ivory thunder]

im envious of yalls lunar eclipse pics now 😭 I got clouded out of both and I don't get a chance at another until 31 Dec 2028

(total eclipse, next lunar eclipse for me is August)

[spare sleet]

Vous aimez bien ? C’est français

[dusk crow]

Yes Paris was very nice, I just visit it for just 2 days

[spare sleet]

I almost hoped you were french

We’re few in ab

[dusk crow]

I am not far away, I am from Germany

[spare sleet]

Nice

[spice gale]

It was cloudy for me too, it cleared right when the full eclipse started

So i was really lucky

[ivory thunder]

for me
March- clouded out fully
September- only cleared 20 mins before it ended

[dreamy pebble]

I can't see Canopus from home but I can when I visit my parents!

[coral cedar]

Very Cool

[ivory thunder]

i can't even see menkent 😭

[keen pewter]

I can't see it from 51 north 🙂

[dreamy pebble]

I'm at 29°N (central Texas)

Normally at 43°N (Madison, WI)

[keen pewter]

Best of both rth world

Both××

[ivory thunder]

thingy around moon I forgot what its called

[spice gale]

Halo?

[ivory thunder]

apparently it's called a glory

[untold ingot]

can there be rainbow made of moonlight

moonbow

[ivory thunder]

yea but I think it's really rarw

rare*

[untold ingot]

someone got shadow from venus light

so its possible

[spice gale]

Oh cool

[scenic glen]

what can be seen in the video one

[ivory thunder]

a6

[scenic glen]

ohh how cool

[latent zodiac]

@coral cedar this one?

[coral cedar]

Yeah

Hey @spice gale , sorry for bothering this is my friend @latent zodiac , he cannot send pic, can you enable him to send pic

Or maybe any mods in here? Thanks in advance

[latent zodiac]

Please

[spice gale]

Not a mod so i cant help

Text in https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/794651916646350859

Someone will see

[coral cedar]

Alright thankss

Sorry for bothering

[spice gale]

Its rly not a problem

Youre my guy

Wouldnt have this without you

[coral cedar]

Oh wow, I don't remember at all lmao that I've made that moon pic

[spice gale]

[spice gale]

I mean you did 3 for me, and this was the latest, and the best

[keen pewter]

Damn how did you even do that haha

[spice gale]

Dont ask me lol he lnows better

[keen pewter]

HDR moon right?

[spice gale]

Yea

[coral cedar]

I don't remember this at all lmaoo

It was so long ago

[spice gale]

Yea it was last summer

Beginning of the summer

[keen pewter]

Damn explain me lol

[spice gale]

With a phone too btw

[coral cedar]

https://youtu.be/kJo46Jik8j0?si=qP63uOd6RxOrGz1D

I highly suggest watch this

My first tutorial of making hdr moon

[keen pewter]

Thanks pal!

[coral cedar]

No problem!

[formal notch]

All my stuff this year

[keen pewter]

Nice

Milkyway somewhere? 😂

From bortle 7 yard with some great neigbourly lights. I know it's there but can't make it out I think.

[grizzled lance]

Yeah I can see it faintly

Damn light pollution is killing it

[keen pewter]

Very faintly.. yeah like I got most of the city to my north and a city to my south... Sport field to my north west.. so it's light everywhere. I'll try later tonight to see what a 20 second picture picks up in bortle 5 ish area 🙂

[scenic glen]

very nice

[formal notch]

Thx

[formal notch]

Thx

[ivory thunder]

mon

[stuck osprey]

I have an iPhone 17 pro max and it’s hard for me to get good pictures of Jupiter
Any tips?

[zealous edge]

phones are notoriously difficult for doing planetary, mainly because you can't really do super fast exposures like you can with planetary cameras, and the brightness of planets like Jupiter and Venus will be overexposed in the phone camera, making quick images of these planets look like super bright dots.

I would recommend using a moon filter on your eyepiece of choice to dial down the apparent brightness, and if you can, use AstroShader to take very short sub exposures.

[stuck osprey]

I dont have an eyepiece

[zealous edge]

if you can't figure out AstroShader, then just use the default camera app and take photos with low brightness settings by using the AEF lock feature

[zealous edge]

ah.

that certainly complicates things.

Do you have a telescope at all?

[stuck osprey]

No 😔

[dusk crow]

You want photograph Jupiter just with Tele camera from the Phone?

[stuck osprey]

Yes

[dusk crow]

I actually tryd this before with my iPhone 17 pro, you need to know that the the focal length is just 100mm I did Crob the image.

[stuck osprey]

Oh okay

[scenic glen]

looks nice

[bold coral]

that is lucky

[bold coral]

damnn u really cooked

[grizzled lance]

Idk why my moons are like that

[zealous edge]

chromatic aberration, happens when different color wavelengths are misaligned and don't all focus on the same plane.

commonly seen in cheap refractors, cheap eyepieces, and oftentimes in phone camera images, regardless of telescope or eyepiece optical quality.

[fleet bramble]

lightroom should have a decent way to help

[grizzled lance]

I probably haven't aligned the eye piece properly or I turned some setting on pipp, autostakkert

[bold coral]

1h rotaion of jupiter using a 6" newt and a phone (not i phone)

[halcyon rune]

I'm proud to say, that I'm not a phone user anymore

[zealous edge]

an angel lost its wings

[prisma raft]

we've lost one 🥀

[dusk crow]

1h Andromeda Galaxy from B6
iPhone 17 Pro Tele Kamera 100mm
I got some Stacking problems
that’s why they are noise pattern or something else

[zealous edge]

looks like walking noise, happens when you don't dither. You can dither simply by moving your setup from time to time. Walking noise can also be mitigated simply with a lot of integration time, or processing techniques that don't push the SNR so far that the walking noise (and image noise in general) becomes horridly noticeable like it is here.

If you don't want to move your setup (or simply can't), you can also just slightly reposition the direction your camera or telescope is facing, obviously keeping your target in frame.

[untold ingot]

walking noise

[dusk crow]

I use a Eq mount

I know why I have this noises

I used AstroShader and I didn’t save all images single. I just save the 1min subs stacks and they haves like Hotpixle trails
And I Siril removed this hotpixles but leave Walking noise behind

[zealous edge]

listen i know you're just trying to be funny, I personally don't mind but you've been mentioned by many people on the server already and it's getting to the point that a moderator could take action, nothing severe but still.

The name EstroBiscuit is also very clever lol, gave me a laugh

[keen pewter]

This isn't phone astro 😞

[ivory thunder]

yea it's phone astrophotography

they're different

[keen pewter]

Yeah keep that stuff in general

[nimble harness]

https://tenor.com/view/kylo-ren-traitor-star-wars-gif-16767158544211392703

[halcyon rune]

🥺

I did ap tho for 2 years tho

[spice gale]

Just dont forget where you come from🙏

[halcyon rune]

I won't 😪

[fading bobcat]

@carmine axle drop some photos here mannnn

[untold ingot]

jupiter

[timid wedge]

im sry to break it to u but im certain this is just random noise, that solar system is tiny and your pic is nowhere near sharp enough to see it, there are mouch larger structures that are supposed to be there but they arent visible bc this pic isnt sharp enough, its barely resolved im my pic which is sharper

youve improved a lot!

youre getting real close to beating my phone ap orion shot

[spice gale]

Thats an insane shot btw

Im trying to reach the limits of phone ap this year

Do stupidly long and hard (untracked) projects

[atomic rampart]

Actually even that is not it what you are seeing is just a dark blob of gas that is behind the proto star system

The actual proto star system is a lot more smaller than that

To resolve it you need a minimum FWHM of 1 arcsecond or less

Not in the right spot its lower down or up depending on your perspective

[nimble harness]

Crazy stuff

[clear frost]

That was at 9800mm

[somber lantern]

Colors so awful I just took them 💔

Also remember to dither guys

[wind spoke]

uwa

best phone image ive ever seen

[spice gale]

Woah thats sharp

How much int time

[bold coral]

maybe

[somber lantern]

Like 30 seconds

[somber lantern]

:3

[spice gale]

Nice

[halcyon rune]

Guess who got mininerd

[spice gale]

Yoo congrats

[halcyon rune]

Thank you so much 🙂

[somber lantern]

Same night different data

I didn't mess up the color correction this time :ppp

Although only change form my older images is that the trapezium looks better now

Progress is progress I guess

[lean eagle]

Can you just grind off (or whatever) the lens of an old smartphone, and use the camera differently? You will have no chromatic abberation then right?

[dreamy pebble]

You mean to extract the sensor? I don't think that's really worth the time and effort to attempt compared to just buying a lipstick cam

[lean eagle]

No, you take of the glass, and you keep the phone as is, and you use software on your phone

[dreamy pebble]

Well you need the lenses and other optics to actually form an image, so you'd have to replace them with a different set of optics (ideally all-reflecting if you want to eliminate chromatic aberration).

[lean eagle]

But any astro camera does not have any optics. It's just a sensor. The scope is your optics.

[lean magnet]

it would work but it's just not worth the effort

[formal notch]

yeah, i tried it, sadly its very difficult to remove mordern phone's camera's lenses. In old phones, its doable

you would still be better of with something like a webcam, mine performs very well

[bold coral]

much better

[iron bear]

[scenic glen]

Whats that white cap on your telescope

[wind spoke]

baibai scope

[wind spoke]

bhatinov mask, for focusing

[scenic glen]

ohh nicee

[wind spoke]

wha?

[scenic glen]

idk

[untold ingot]

nice

earth nebula

ngl it would be cool if theres lightnings in actual space nebula

[zealous edge]

likely not possible, considering how diffuse nebulae actually are; they are much thinner than cirrus clouds on Earth, they just look thick and bright because of how far away they are from us. If we were inside an emission nebula, we likely couldn't actually see any detail or color or even light from the nebula, though the night sky may be noticeably darker due to less starlight getting through.

[untold ingot]

damn

[untold ingot]

but would our star heat up the nebula

and make it glow a bit

or would solar wind clear the nebula

[zealous edge]

If viewed from afar, you could definitely see the emission spectrum of the nebula, but if viewed from inside the nebula, the light that reaches your eyes is much less concentrated, as the actual width of the target spans the entire sky, as opposed to a small smudge in the night sky. So, the view, despite being almost no less bright than a view from thousands of lightyears away, would appear dimmer as it's less concentrated.

Think of it like this: take a sheet of black paper, poke a few dozen tiny pinpoints into the paper scattered around in random places all far from each other, and hold the paper up to the sun or any bright light source. Individually, each little point does not really register in your vision very effectively, and so the overall brightness shared between the pinpoints appears dim.

Now, take another sheet of paper and poke the same amount of tiny pinpoints, but this time keep them all very close to each other. When you hold the paper up to your light source, suddenly they all seem much brighter, despite the actual brightness of the light source and number of holes being unchanged. They seem brighter because they're more concentrated, and their light has less visual space to spread out, making it register more intensely on your eyes.

This is why far away emission nebulae appear so bright, despite the fact that they would appear dimmer and almost unnoticeable if viewed from inside the nebula itself. This is also why clouds on Earth appear thicker and solid from afar, but become almost see-through or translucent if you view one from inside, say from a plane.

[zealous edge]

Though! Jupiter's clouds do frequently have lightning and other electrical phenomena occurring within, with photo evidence!

This is a Juno image of one of Jupiter's many storms, with a green flash of lightning visible within.

I imagine this is a common occurrence with most Gas Giants.

[scenic glen]

Iss with iPhone17 pro 24x zoom no scope used

I changed the brightness mid filming*

[remote cypress]

dude got a planewave 10m lmao

[zealous edge]

I wish lol

[untold ingot]

would u die if u get hit by it

or is it survivabile

[zealous edge]

I mean

Depends on the total voltage, watts, amps, a lot of things

[untold ingot]

earth lightning is survivable

mhm

[zealous edge]

yeah

[untold ingot]

but i wonder if jupiter ones too strong

it may just explode you

[zealous edge]

I don't know if there's a way we can measure the actual strength in watts and amps of otherworldly lightning

lightning bolts on Earth that are strong enough can already explode you

[untold ingot]

hmm

[zealous edge]

Some super-bolts have been observed to produce magnetic fields so ridiculous that they actually crumple metal piping when struck

[untold ingot]

also i assume radiation and clouds and speed of the winds are enough to kill anyway

[zealous edge]

in addition to blowing entire trees apart, and blasting small craters in concrete and asphalt

[untold ingot]

mhm

[zealous edge]

For sure, that would definitely kill you before you could even have a chance to get struck by Jovian lightning

not to mention the entire unbreathability of Jupiter's atmosphere

[untold ingot]

right yea

[robust fog]

Hunt for sprites

[frank jungle]

What telescope do you have???

[bold coral]

jupiter using a bellow average phone and a 6" newt

[clear frost]

10”

[bold coral]

.

[dusk crow]

3%

[untold ingot]

my dumbahh think thats solar eclipse

amazing view of earthshine

[fleet bramble]

jupiter and a moon, no scope

[fleet bramble]

is there a way to zoom past 20x in pro mode? Its hard to focus and expose in the normal one

[lean eagle]

Used this data to test stacking in Eise.app (dev version). One of the first results.

[blissful grotto]

hey guys I've been trying to image jupiter with iphone Xr and it appears as aa white circle of light no details even if i lowered the iso and shutter speed

i use a 114/900 telescope with a 10mm eyepiece

[coral cedar]

Colimate well?
Focusing well?
I found this issue when the Jupiter is really really low in the horizion
It's called athmosphere distortion and seeing also
I usually shoot above 20/25 degrees above the horizon
And the details went out usually if seeing isn't bad

[blissful grotto]

collimation is good focusing is great with my eyes i can see details such as the striations but with the phone nothing at all

[coral cedar]

Does the iphone provide manual control over the ISO/shutter speed and the focusing?

I usually use those manual setting on Android
And usually I adjust the focus a little bit, because when observing and shooting with phone, it has a distance, so focusing need to be adjust(in my cases)

[spice gale]

It doesnt

I had the same problem

https://apps.apple.com/app/id6449580241

I use this app

[dusk crow]

Bro try to use AstroShader, is the best app for iPhone

[fleet bramble]

is there one for android?

I want to zoom in past 20x in pro mode

[dusk crow]

sadly, not now

[dusk crow]

What do you mean?

[fleet bramble]

on samsung, you can zoom to 100x in the regular camera mode, but pro restricts it to 20x

[dusk crow]

Idk, I don’t use android, but even the 100x are just digital Zoom, the real zoom that Samsung is working is 5x

[fleet bramble]

10x for me, but yeah. the resultion is enough for me to get a photo with jupiters moon visible, but its really hard to adjust exposure and focus like that

[dusk crow]

10x only in a different app?

[fleet bramble]

wdym?

i have a 10x telephoto

[dusk crow]

Oh ok you have a S23 Ultra, didn’t know

But the lens and sensor is very small, can I see the picture?

[fleet bramble]

bad focus

[dusk crow]

Yeah I see

[dusk crow]

I can see 3 Moons with my IPhone 17 pro because, I can focus Manuel and the new Sonsor with the 4x Tele also good

[blissful grotto]

yeh i can use an android can you tell me any app or setting that you use ?

[coral cedar]

ahh i see

[coral cedar]

i usually use procamx

[coral cedar]

niceee

[blissful grotto]

i will def try that thanks

[blissful grotto]

and astroshader too

thank you

[short sleet]

well hello there

u guys use ur mobile to take pics

guess what

me too

[coral cedar]

No problem

[bold coral]

moon using my 6" and a phone camera

[spice gale]

Nice

[ivory thunder]

moon through cloud

[blissful grotto]

first picture of jupiter with my 114/900 without a phone holder

[short sleet]

Yo guys how's this

Through my celestron deluxe 80 eq

Scope

As well as these

Not stacked

Only processed

[dry falcon]

Moon and Plane - iPhone 17 pro

[latent zodiac]

Guys

How to send picture here?

I cant send anything except poll

[fleet bramble]

ask in #💬-general-chat

you need a role

[bold coral]

plato and coppernicus using a 6" and a phone

[bold coral]

(the collimation was't perfect tho)
time lapse of jupter captured using a phone camera and a 6"

[wind spoke]

ur details got uninstalled :(

[latent zodiac]

Alr mate

[dusk crow]

The Sun, Zoom with IPhone 17 Pro

[short sleet]

How's this

[spice gale]

Not bad, i like it

What setup

[short sleet]

Just a celestron deluxe 80 eq with a phone adapter

[short sleet]

Thank you

[spice gale]

Nice

Keep it up

[short sleet]

Thank you

[spice gale]

Cuz practice makes perfect

[coral cedar]

my old setup xD

[short sleet]

Wait what

U have the same telescope

[coral cedar]

yes

[short sleet]

Show a pic

Just want to see

[coral cedar]

this is my saturn with phone and the jupiter with dslr

ive some pics with moon

with phone

some hdr composite with this telescope and phone

last quarter with phone also

this is stacked and using raw format

using 23mm svbony 68 fov

you can do alot with this telescope, alot people say its worse telescope since the mounting itself isnt that really great

but it has very decent quality optics, its very sharp

but yeah the CA its kind of worse...

[short sleet]

Dam

[short sleet]

Dayum

[short sleet]

Damn bro

[short sleet]

No goto?

[coral cedar]

yeah no goto

just untracked

[short sleet]

Thats great

[coral cedar]

thanks!

[coral cedar]

hey that looks great

[short sleet]

There is a website called eise where it stacks ur videos of planets

[coral cedar]

nicee you did stack in there?

[short sleet]

I didn't

The website did it

[coral cedar]

ohhh

[short sleet]

Only for planets

I just don't have the proper OS
To download autostakkert

Or pipp

Btw I can't download pipp in my acer

Idk why

It shows server error 404 or something

[coral cedar]

https://www.rsastro.com/downloads/ i use this link to download pipp

[dreamy pebble]

My favorite attempt at phone astrophotography (2024)

[coral cedar]

Very nice

[spice gale]

Looks amazing

[blissful grotto]

first time stacking a vid of jupiter here are the results

[balmy ravine]

transmission spectrum of a moon filter, seems like it just makes everything dark green https://photos.app.goo.gl/eHmGmveryZYCiqts6

[short sleet]

Is that a wire

[lean eagle]

Looks like how Canadians are portrayed in South Park

[atomic rampart]

See guys its not that deep it's only a problem when you do it with a telescope

[spare sleet]

get rig instead of iphones💔

[ivory thunder]

pppppppojfd

[short sleet]

Guys how's thissss

[untold ingot]

why is it flat

i want it 3d

[dusk crow]

Orion Nebula 1h
Telescope: 114/500
phone: iPhone 17 Pro
Sky: Bortle 6

[spice gale]

Is running man neb much dimmer compared to orion ??

[dusk crow]

Yes, Orion is much brighter

[spice gale]

Mmmm

You think its worth shooting just that nebula?

I did orion but i always liked the running man

[dusk crow]

You can shot both in a picture

[spice gale]

Mm not really

My fov is just too short

I mean i can see it but when im stacking and that the edges are becoming blurry and messy, and im forced to crop it

[dusk crow]

Ok, but you can try running nebula is also nice alone,

[spice gale]

Yea its a beautiful neb imo

Should be alr with 1h in b7-8

(I hope)

[dusk crow]

Yes 1h is good, what telescope you use?

[spice gale]

Sw dobson heritage 150mm

[dusk crow]

But you have a tracker?

[spice gale]

No

Heres 80 mins of orion

So running man should at leats be visible

[dusk crow]

How long is a sub

My stars a trailing hard with 1s

[spice gale]

1 or 2 mins i forgot

I think 2 min

[spice gale]

Woah

You use astroshader rightv

?

[dusk crow]

Yes

[spice gale]

Hmm

I use 1s x 120

2 min a sub

[spice gale]

Stacked like 39 of them here

[lean magnet]

it will be there but not very good

[dusk crow]

Ah ok, I als did 1x60 but still 1s is to long with 25x

[spice gale]

Hmm

Thats rly odd

I had star trails with over 2 sec subs but that was way before

[spice gale]

Right

Anyways winter season is coming to an end and i still havent got a clear night since like december

So running man or flame nebula are my last targets on my list

1-2 hours for both

All im asking is two clear nights and ill be happy

[dusk crow]

I also did try Jupiter but my telescope doesn’t show much details, it’s a 4,5 newton

[spice gale]

Nice

[exotic merlin]

wait wait how?

how can you do this 80 mins without a tracker?

[spice gale]

120s x 40 =4800s
4800s % 60 = 80 mins

[exotic merlin]

but how do you keep it in the same frame?

[spice gale]

Move the telescope

And let the target slide trough my fov

Then do this

[exotic merlin]

Hoe do u know if its in the right position?

[fading bobcat]

Except you cant get 120s without a tracker

[dusk crow]

I just captured Mercury in Raw daylight, I might be the first person in 2026

[wind spoke]

ur not sorry :c

[spice gale]

Well i did

[spice gale]

Wdym

Here is what a sub looked like

[exotic merlin]

But without a tracker the stars move and what if you wrongly move the telesvope

Telescope*

[clear frost]

Nah lol

[fading bobcat]

You may be able to get enough 1-2s subs to equal 120s, but without a tracker youll never get one 120s sub

[spice gale]

Ohhh

Yea 1s x 120

My bad now i get what you were saying

[wind spoke]

cirbcle 😭

[wind spoke]

all sky cams can alnost

[fading bobcat]

So yeah, dont go saying you used 120s subs

Just say you used 4000+ 1s subs

[wind spoke]

ur using 1 secon subs!!!!

[fading bobcat]

Honestly Id think its more impressive if he said that straight up

[wind spoke]

[fading bobcat]

It takes lots of dedication to image and stack thousands of 1s subs

Im ready to capture hundreds of 10s subs of m42 tonight so I can hdr my core

[wind spoke]

light work

my worst image in my untracked days was over 30k 0.4 second subs

[fading bobcat]

Results?

[wind spoke]

the moon and broadband made it so i had no snr

[fading bobcat]

Oh ew

[wind spoke]

i just deleted it off my insta

this convo reminded me

[wind spoke]

i cringe every time i see it

im almost 100% certain i could get a better image now

[fading bobcat]

Ah im sure blurX will fix then stars

Also what scope got shem spikes?

They lowkey tasty

[wind spoke]

that is blurx

[fading bobcat]

LMAO

[wind spoke]

its extreme noisex and blurx

[fading bobcat]

Not bad for 30k 1s subs tho

[wind spoke]

nonono, 30k 0.4 second subs

[fading bobcat]

Ah right

[wind spoke]

cant go that long without tracking

[fading bobcat]

Manual tracking mustve been a nightmare

[fading bobcat]

Dob?

[wind spoke]

actually wasnt im ngl

[fading bobcat]

Or big newt?

[wind spoke]

wha?

its my current noot

[fading bobcat]

What newt?

[wind spoke]

6"

0.45 seconds has trailing

[fading bobcat]

Wow

[wind spoke]

0.4 has just noticable trailin

[fading bobcat]

Fl?

[wind spoke]

750

with the 585

ive had my 585 since i started

[fading bobcat]

Untracked with an astrocam

[wind spoke]

yup

[fading bobcat]

Painful

I at least got tracking before

[wind spoke]

but the snr

boost is crazy

[fading bobcat]

Well yeah

But id go tracker over cam any day

[wind spoke]

i woudnt bc i had no dslr or anything and i refuse to do astro with a phone

[fading bobcat]

I did astro with a phone for over 4 years

[wind spoke]

if i did i woulda gon tracking any day

[fading bobcat]

I havent even had my uranus C for a year yet

[wind spoke]

ive had my 585 for a year and 2 months

[fading bobcat]

This was my first photo with the Uranus C

[wind spoke]

im so glad i went with an astrocam

[wind spoke]

oooof

[fading bobcat]

Ikr

[wind spoke]

everyone starts somewhere

[fading bobcat]

I started with a $20 tasco refractor

90/900 I think

Then I got the solomark 130eq (scammed out of $400)

Then I got the svbony 48p (scammed out of $200)

Then now I got the fma180 (not scammed outta $300)

[wind spoke]

(scammed outta $300)

[fading bobcat]

Meh its not bad

[wind spoke]

(scammed outta $300)

[fading bobcat]

Why we think so?

[wind spoke]

still has blue halo :(

[fading bobcat]

Its manageable tho

Fma180 vs 48p

Especially in narrowband

Dayum I didnt realize how good @old smelt did on the core on the right

[spice gale]

Right

[fading bobcat]

Yes it sounds alot more impressive

[spice gale]

Nah yall got it weong

Wrong*

[fading bobcat]

How

[spice gale]

astroshader allows me to take subs like a real astro cam

[fading bobcat]

But it still wont let you take 120s subs untracked

[spice gale]

So each sub is made out of 120 exposures of 1 second

Live stacks them

And i stack the live stack subs

[fading bobcat]

So in other words 120x1s

[spice gale]

Yes

[fading bobcat]

Which is basically 1s subs x however many frames

[spice gale]

Yes

And they are live stacked

[fading bobcat]

You cant call then 120s subs when youre untracked imo

[spice gale]

I save them

[fading bobcat]

Youre just stacking your 1s subs separately to save some processing power

[spice gale]

And then each 120s final sub i stack into a bigger exposure

[fading bobcat]

Yes which isnt the same as taking 120s subs

[spice gale]

Right

[fading bobcat]

120s subs will have actual better snr and youll pull more nebulosity then stacking 120 1s subs

[spice gale]

Yea well in my case that would be impossible lol

[fading bobcat]

Itd be better than this at 60s

[fading bobcat]

Which is why I think itd be more impressive to say you stacked 1s subs

Cause those results are killer at 1s each

[spice gale]

It would me more inpressive but its not really true at the same time

[fading bobcat]

Except it is

You stacked 1s subs

[wind spoke]

its veeeery true

stop lying :(

[spice gale]

I fix orion at one vorner of the eyepiece, set the camera, let astroshader livestack while orion glides to the other corner and i save the 2 min image

[spice gale]

Astroshader did

I stacked the 2 min images

[fading bobcat]

But they were made of 1s subs

[spice gale]

Yes

[fading bobcat]

Different then stacking 120s subs

[spice gale]

Its like google pixel

You cant say you stacked 16s images

You just got the final 4 min image or wtv

[spice gale]

120s images then

[fading bobcat]

120s comprised of 1s subs will look different than a single 120s subs

[spice gale]

Which are made of 1 s subs

[wind spoke]

those arent subs

thats total integration time

a sub is a single photo

the single photo is 1 second long

your subs are one second long

[spice gale]

Yes

Right

[wind spoke]

you have 80 minutes of total integration

[spice gale]

Yea

[wind spoke]

this 120 number is irrelevant info imo

just say x number of 1 second subs

or the total int

[spice gale]

Ohhhhhh now i understand what youre saying

Omg i understand now

[wind spoke]

[fading bobcat]

Yesss

Tbf i didnt need to drag it like I did

[spice gale]

Lmao it was all just a communication error rly

[exotic merlin]

Okay so i might be stupid.but

I still dont understand how people can take good images without tracking

I have a refractor 70/700 with a motor (which is kinda like tracker) which i gotta polar align

When yall say "without a tracker" do you mean you just have a motor or how do you do it?

[spice gale]

No

You take your exposures or whatever

And move the telescope

Realign

[exotic merlin]

Wait you first polar align your telescope then point to the object make it at the center or any position take the exposure and then align it to the previous position?

[dusk crow]

Yes, if the Eq mount is polar align every object in the sky wich is moving that off sets by secons, can be easily align to his previous position back

[exotic merlin]

How do you know if you aligned it to the right position

Do u use an app for that? Or just look at the position of the stars

[dusk crow]

You just need to know where the Star Polaris is, you can use the Reddot finder scope to align,

After align the telescope don’t move the Eq mount

[exotic merlin]

Oh no no i mean how do u know if you aligned the object back into the right position

On ur phone camera

[dusk crow]

I am using a RedCross to align the Objects, so I know I am at the same point again

If you good polar Align the Objects will be get back to the Red marker with out Corrections

[exotic merlin]

how long is ur sub?

[exotic merlin]

"RedCross" is that the name of the app?

[dusk crow]

I do 1s but I realign after 60s

[dusk crow]

It only iPhone

[exotic merlin]

damn do you know any other good ones?

that are prob on android

[dusk crow]

Idk just look in YouTube android costume crowbow

[exotic merlin]

low iso like 800? or

[dusk crow]

I do iso 32000😅

[exotic merlin]

you use an app right or is that actually possible on iphone

[dusk crow]

Yes I am using AstroShader

[exotic merlin]

man if they atleast made a mobile port

the only thing i have is my camera or deepskycamera app

[keen pewter]

60x zoom Xiaomi 15 through solar filter

[blissful grotto]

the Pleiades

[fading bobcat]

Revive phone AP pls

[wind spoke]

no.

[fading bobcat]

We love phone AP

[wind spoke]

no

[spice gale]

Lovely, what setup

[spice gale]

I need clear weather so bad

[fading bobcat]

This image is a lil old and not my current setuo mostly but

Samsung note 20
Skywatcher Star Adventure GTI
32mm svbony eyepeice and uv/ir filter
Svbony 48p 90mm

[spice gale]

It must be so easy with a tracker

[fading bobcat]

Wasn't bad at all lol

Except for the Chromatic abberation

[spice gale]

Do you know any good mounts for a 150/750 newt?

[spice gale]

Yea it is a bit visible

[fading bobcat]

Eq5

Either already motorized or onstepped

Maybe if you can find a used eq5 pro? If not then something like an heq5

[spice gale]

Thats going to be hard

[fading bobcat]

Sure is

Onstep is more diy/budget

[fading bobcat]

Wow how'd you know my favorite targets is ______

[untold ingot]

m57

you see the ring?

[fading bobcat]

I lowkey thought it was an ojt of focus star

[untold ingot]

it is out of focus jupiter

[spice gale]

Same

[untold ingot]

get fricked

[untold ingot]

but fr tho theres a stripe

[scenic glen]

Im working on a diy star tracker rn , if the sky is clear I’ll test it later

[fading bobcat]

Omg keep me updated

[exotic merlin]

Holy peak

[spice gale]

Wish you luck and clear skies, hope it works

[scenic glen]

Yh , the sky’s ain’t clear tonight , ima try tmr tho🙏🙏

[blissful grotto]

this is the coolest shi bro damn

[proud mirage]

Go diy, I made mine for prob around 200 bucks total supplies with onstep

I just finished automated polar alignment for azimuth too which I still gotta test cuz i had no fine adjustment knob

[scenic glen]

Nice

[spice gale]

Hmm

Might do

[scenic glen]

Sky‘s looking clear today , might be able to try the diy tracker

[scenic glen]

4 min time lapse with my iPhone 17pro 4x cam

What do y’all think about it

I deff have to work on it

[proud mirage]

Seems pretty good for 4 minutes

Prob just need better polar alignment

How do u currently do it

[exotic merlin]

sirius a56, 70s (1 sec sub)
kinda practicing stacking here (i did dark and bias images tho i didnt do flat)

smaller brightness version

[scenic glen]

i dont haha

[proud mirage]

Lmao then thats amazing for no pa

[latent zodiac]

Milky Way Core

February 16, 2026 | 05:00 UTC+7
Device: Redmi 10c
Integration: 1000 seconds / 16 minutes 40 seconds
Light Frame: 40
Dark Frame: 10
Exif: 23mm | F/1.8 | 1000s (40 x 25s) | ISO 1000
Location: Bengkulu

@coral cedar finally i can send picture here

[coral cedar]

Nice good job

[latent zodiac]

Nice²

[latent zodiac]

Orion nebula
Magnitude 4

12/22/25 | 02:00 UTC+7
Device: Redmi 10c and Apexel 36x lens
Integration: 1 hour 30 minutes / 4800sec
light frame : 1600
dark frame : 300
Exif : 130mm (equivalent 375mm ff) | F/4 | 4800sec (1600 x 3s) | ISO 1600
Location : Bengkulu city
Instagram : @syauqi8718

[spice gale]

Thats a nice one man, what bortle

[latent zodiac]

Thanks mate, its in Bortle 5

[short sleet]

Guys how's this

My best image of saturn

[spice gale]

Very nice

[short sleet]

Thanks

[spice gale]

What telescope

[short sleet]

Celestron deluxe 80 eq

[spice gale]

Wew very good image for the telescope

[short sleet]

Thanks

[coral cedar]

Woah so many people using this scope xD

[short sleet]

They do?

[coral cedar]

I have one of this telescope xD

[short sleet]

Dam

Could u send?

[short sleet]

The saame

[short sleet]

How much

[coral cedar]

How much what?

[short sleet]

The scope

[coral cedar]

The price that I buy?

[short sleet]

And the mount

[short sleet]

Yes

[coral cedar]

Total cost took me about 150 us dollar

Already with the mount

And tripod

[short sleet]

Same but I got it for second hand tho

[coral cedar]

Ohh I got brand new xD

[short sleet]

Whaat

[coral cedar]

Yeah

[short sleet]

My finder stopped working 😭

I had to manually find the planets and stars without the finder

[spice gale]

Must have been hell

[echo tide]

Hello

[fading bobcat]

Hi

[echo tide]

Ooo TYSM, I can send images here

[echo tide]

Hello

[keen pewter]

yo

[echo tide]

Raw vs JPG image in phone's built-in camera

These are the settings with 4900 WB

@pine grove

I am thinking about taking 16 frames in DSC with DARKS

Should I take with DARKS or LIGHTS or BIAS

I'm confused about that

[pine grove]

oh yea

if you record darks and biases then put your phone in a box or so so that no lights come in

Dark and Biases are the "Calibration Frames"

They improve image quality

The lights are your pictures of the sky

And it's best to take your darks/biases at the same time and location as your lights

so that all images have been taken at about the same temperature

[pine grove]

The white balance doesn't really matter

If you can then leave it on "Auto"

[echo tide]

There's no auto

[pine grove]

Hmm

[echo tide]

Ohh, I only took 16 DARKS frames of RAW images

[pine grove]

is it night for you ?

[echo tide]

Yes

But I took them 45 minutes ago

[pine grove]

You can record a few lights for now

[echo tide]

16 lights frames ?

But angle

[pine grove]

Naa

Do you have a tripod or something?

[echo tide]

If i take lights images now then the angle will be slightly off because I removed my phone stand

[echo tide]

Wait

[echo tide]

No i've been using this for years

[pine grove]

is enough

[echo tide]

It's stable enough.

[pine grove]

You can just minimally turn the phone every 5 minutes

[echo tide]

Oh okay

[echo tide]

Yep

[pine grove]

That's how I did it with my camera

[echo tide]

So i should take lights now ?

[echo tide]

Ohh

I already have 16 RAW DARKS frames

[pine grove]

Then used the same settings for the lights

[echo tide]

Is taking 16 frames okay ?
It will take 4 minutes

[pine grove]

Like darks/flats are of course important, but I would collect some data first

[pine grove]

yee

will do his job

[echo tide]

This is one of the darks frames out of all 16

[pine grove]

There must be no light in your camera

You have to mask your camera

Or somehow cover

And it's best to put it in a tight box

or something like that

Do you understand

[echo tide]

This is phone's built-in camera JPG image with iso400, 15s shutter, 4700 WB

[echo tide]

So you mean cover the lens ?

[echo tide]

What about covering the camera?

[pine grove]

Yeee

and best of in a dark environment

Here is an example of calibration frames

Flats and Dark Flats are not important to you

[echo tide]

Yah I don't have them

[echo tide]

I got 16 frames of lights

[pine grove]

Do you know what stacking is ?

[echo tide]

So i should also capture 16 darks+bias frames while covering the lens ?
If yes then I can do that anytime.

[pine grove]

yea

[echo tide]

I have heard people doing it in siril in the past years but never did it myself

Just downloaded siril a few days ago

[pine grove]

Noice

Then you must learn it

how to use it

[echo tide]

All of this because I usually capture with phones built-in camera with JPG when my sky was sometimes bortle 6-7, I suspected that I very barely captured milky way's core and area around lagoon nebula in one of the image i captured in late August of 2025.

In nov-jan the sky was really dark, like bortle 7 to sometimes bortle 6, i always just captured JPG with those settings in phone's built-in camera.

[echo tide]

Ah yeah, there is also a stacking option in siril, maybe there I can stack images.

[pine grove]

Of course

[echo tide]

Rn it's like bortle 8-9 with poor air quality

[pine grove]

You can stack whatever you want

[pine grove]

oh yea b9 will be difficult

[echo tide]

I heard that it reduces noise in the raw image

[pine grove]

Simply put, yes

So actually it adds the data in the pictures together

But I can't explain all that to you now

But you're right stacking gives you a picture with less noise and more things to see

[echo tide]

I can barely see θ orionis

[pine grove]

Yee that's just the effect of light pollution

[echo tide]

NELM

[pine grove]

The more pictures you take of the Sky, the more you can see

[echo tide]

That's cool.

[pine grove]

Jup

[echo tide]

Okay so I need to take darks + bias 16 frames with same settings and lens covered after this ?

[pine grove]

yup

[echo tide]

Oh thanks

For the help

[pine grove]

You can also take 50 pictures if you want

[echo tide]

Why ?

[pine grove]

Well, there is no rule for how many you should do

Like one picture won't do a good job

but 20 or so are ok

[echo tide]

But combing them shouldn't require the same amount of images as I took ?

[pine grove]

Naa

[echo tide]

Then wouldnt other images be leftover ?

[pine grove]

You can do 20 darks, 20 biases and as many lights as you want

[echo tide]

Yes

[pine grove]

You stack the Darks to a Master Dark

And this Master Dark is applied to every Light Frame

Same with the biases

[echo tide]

Oh so first stack all darks and bias, and 16 lights frames separately then stack them afterwards?

[pine grove]

Only the bias and darks are stacked

Wait

If the Master Dark/Biases have been applied to each Light Frame, these calibrated light frames will be stacked

[echo tide]

Oh so stacked dark + unstacked bias + each light frame

So i first stack darks and apply dark to each bias and each light frame ?

[pine grove]

The biases are also stacked

The result is then called a master bias

[echo tide]

Oh

[pine grove]

Stackt Darks And stackt Biases are applied to every light frame at the same time, so to speak

After that you get the same number of light frames but they are now calibrated

And these calibrated lights are then stacked at the end

[echo tide]

Ooooo

But sensory temperature matters for darks and bias ?

[pine grove]

Yup

It should be the same temperatures as the lights

You can't control it exactly anyway

[echo tide]

Oh wait I took lights 27 min ago

[pine grove]

Like it's best to do everything in the same place at the same time

[echo tide]

Ah yes temperature drops

[pine grove]

So first the lights and then the calibration frames or vice versa

If you do the calibration frames in a warm house or apartment, they usually they don't work at all

Or make the quality even worse

[echo tide]

Oh but I am outside

[pine grove]

good

Then do everything outside

[echo tide]

Yeah, I took 16 frames of darks + bias in the same dark area but by covering the lens with 2 fingers and pointing it towards the dark ground

But I took these images 27 minutes after lights

Can I only stack lights ?

[pine grove]

Fingers will not be enough

like it must be really close to 100% dark

If you just want to see the effect of stacking, you can just stack your lights for now

Calibration frames are not a must

[echo tide]

Yep

[echo tide]

Firstly I'll stack lights only and try if darks + bias works

[pine grove]

Good

[echo tide]

So 0 photons should be detected by the sensor ?

[pine grove]

Yee about that

Like that would be the case then the picture would be completely black

[echo tide]

The darks and bias images ?

[pine grove]

I meant no picture can really be black

The sensor will confuse other radiation as photons

And the sensor technology produces noise

You can always see something

And you don't want to have the effects of the environment and the sensor's errors in your picture

That's why you're doing these calibration frames in complete darkness

so that you only have all the unwanted noise in the picture

These visible nois is in the calibration frames also exist in the light frames

[echo tide]

Yes i strictly meant photons.

[pine grove]

Yee

[echo tide]

Like thermal electrons, read noise, electronic noise etc

?

[pine grove]

You try to have as few real photons as possible in the picture

[pine grove]

Exactly

ahh nice you already know the terms

[echo tide]

That's why my darks images have random red, blue green dots but still many real photons may have passed through my fingers.

[pine grove]

yeeee

[echo tide]

My fingers not perfect

[pine grove]

Nope

[echo tide]

Yeah

Thanks btw for taking your time

!

[pine grove]

Hehe You are welcome

[untold ingot]

hmm

i randomly wanna get a cam that can see ir

[pine grove]

for what ?

[untold ingot]

idk i wanna put it in a tube with angled prisim and put the cam as webcam so it sees spectrum and using a program i can get a really crappy spectroscopy

[pine grove]

Ahhh

Noice

[echo tide]

i have the images but now i need to stack them in siril, can you help me or if you know about a good tutorial that can help me ?

[pine grove]

Ehh you can just use scripts

[pine grove]

if you have your calibration frames the use the "without flats" script

when you want only the lights then use "whitout dbf"

https://siril.org/tutorials/tuto-scripts/

the siril guys have good tutorials

[echo tide]

Will this work for linux mint too ?

[pine grove]

Yes

The scripts for stacking should always work

the other scripts for programs and so can often have problems with dependencies

[echo tide]

How do I only stack the lights because it cannot find flats if I try to stack baises, darks and lights

And i firstly want to stack lights

As the darks and baises are not properly captured by me

[pine grove]

Use the "withoutdbf" Script

[echo tide]

Where is it ?

[pine grove]

go in the settings/scripts

[echo tide]

"OSC_preprocessing_WithoutDBF.ssf" ?

[pine grove]

Yea

DBF= Darks Biases Flats

[echo tide]

Why does it skips some images in red colored text?

In the console

It skipped many images

[pine grove]

All ?

[echo tide]

Image 16, 7, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 9 (reason : cannot perform star matching and not enough star pairs)

[pine grove]

Oh yea

[echo tide]

Why does that happen?

[pine grove]

Siril doesn't recognize the stars in your frames

Then you have to do it manually

[echo tide]

Is it because of bortle 8-9 ?

[echo tide]

What ????!!!!!

[pine grove]

Nope

[echo tide]

And why the result.fit is extremely greeny image

[pine grove]

turn auto strech and uncheck these color buton

here is it

[echo tide]

So it didn't combine those images at all ?

So it's at some disadvantage or something?

[pine grove]

nah you have to get all images allighment

wait

https://siril.org/tutorials/tuto-manual/

take a look at "converting files"/"Sequences"/"Image alignment"/"Image stacking"/

the darks/biases/flats is not important for you

you have to convert your lights in a sequenz

then alignm the images

and stack them

i would use this settings

it could also bee that siril mistakes some hotpixel as stars

[echo tide]

So do this with each lights images ,m

?

[pine grove]

You need to convert your images into a sequence

[echo tide]

So all 16 images into a sequence?

[pine grove]

Yes

if you have any questions just ask

When you're ready, I'll show you how to proceed

[echo tide]

Okay I got the sequences and then i unchecked the RGB in auto stretch

[pine grove]

Ok

[echo tide]

4 ?

[pine grove]

you have to put these number in

and the click on the buton

[echo tide]

Which number ?

[pine grove]

4

default is 10

[echo tide]

It's thinking that the holes in leaves are stars

[pine grove]

You mean in your frames?

[echo tide]

Because it circled orange

[echo tide]

Yes in the right image

[pine grove]

ahh you are already in this window ?

ore have you clicked on "go register"

[echo tide]

her

[pine grove]

Nice

Good Job

[echo tide]

these were the settings

[pine grove]

Good

[echo tide]

thx

[pine grove]

now just click on "start stacking"