Phone Astrophotography

[formal notch]

stars looking good tbh

[dapper vault]

@formal notch @grizzled lance I captured many photos of moon and a 30 sec long video of it so how should I stack it

??

[formal notch]

use software like astrosurface or autostakkert

[dapper vault]

On a phone will it work?

[dapper vault]

My laptop is currently on repair so I'll need to manage on phone

[formal notch]

no...

[dapper vault]

Then what should I use

[formal notch]

i guess you will have to wait till your lap repairs

[dapper vault]

💀

[wind spoke]

shoot me the raw rn

amma commit a tomfoolery

[formal notch]

Sure one sec

[balmy ravine]

with a tracker, large diameter telescope and low light pollution that is definitely possible

[formal notch]

Newer data enjoy

[grizzled lance]

Stack on computer

Idealy you should capture it with telescope then stack

[wind spoke]

what is this data of?

i see

the flame neb

okay okay

@formal notch

not to be mean but ive never processed data this bad before

[zealous edge]

my vision when I stand up too quickly

[sullen parrot]

BRAVE MAN!

[sullen parrot]

Peak astro-processing

[zealous edge]

I thought this was a really cropped shot of the Pleiades at first

[lean magnet]

Considering switching to iPhone since some of the prices aren't so bad anymore

but idk

[formal notch]

Ik its pretty bad (cause of low clouds and stuff

And also cause of my phone

I wanna get a better cam but my parents dont allow it

Also b9

[robust storm]

Takin on my iphone 12, unedited

[fading bobcat]

That last closeup is really nice imo but the video is a Lil bright

I've never been that good with moon shots, but nice!

You always blow me away with these results. Crazy what a simple tracking mount can do for people's images!

[robust storm]

Yeah i agree kind of did it on purpose i kinda like it like that, but thanks for the feedback bro

[somber lantern]

iPhone is terrible for phone ap

I mean it's ok for taking quick shots but I think raws are usually not fully raw

Pretty much all iphone pics I've seen look really similar in quality

[potent gorge]

its got astroshader so its cool

[somber lantern]

But android got openlivestacker

For being livestacking it's pretty damn good, it actually beat my dss stacks

Really good for doing untracked

[formal notch]

exactly

thru phone and 114/900 scope and 340ms subs (stacked using openlivestacker and processing using siril)

[somber lantern]

Openlivestacker vs dss, around same integration

Dss is considerably more noisy

[lean magnet]

what about not through a scope tho

i only do phone ap with just a phone now

[formal notch]

Still

Dsc has a time lag when shooting thats wahy i cant afford to use it 😭

[lean magnet]

yeah it's very annoying but i never learned openlivestacker

[formal notch]

Also the max resolution

[formal notch]

Oh

Have you read the manual

[lean magnet]

didn't know there was one

[formal notch]

Okay ill send it to u

[formal notch]

https://github.com/artyom-beilis/OpenLiveStacker/wiki/Open-Live-Stacker-Manual

[lean magnet]

does the derotation work on widefield

like 12mm or 24mm

[formal notch]

yes

if it dosent work choose derotate mirror

even if u use lens

it works incredibly great

i didnt think it would work this well

[lean magnet]

I'll try it the next time i do widefield

[formal notch]

okie

[lean magnet]

is the remove gradient option good or is it better to just leave it off and do a background extraction in processing

[formal notch]

leave it off

bge would work better

[lean magnet]

Alr i went through everything

I think i have it figured out

[formal notch]

great wishing you clear skies

[lean magnet]

Yea not happening😿

Idk why it's so bad now

Last year it was ok

[lean magnet]

I think i have my choices down to pixel 8 pro, s23 ultra, and xiaomi 14t pro

[normal oracle]

Photo artefact or did i capture a moon of mars?

Top right, the big blob is the moon

[halcyon rune]

Could be

[wind spoke]

photo artefact

you shouldnt be able to see marses moons from that level of magnification

[normal oracle]

Alr, thank you

[grizzled lance]

Has anyone tried capturing triangulum galaxy just by phone?

[lean magnet]

can you? yes

will it be good? no

[grizzled lance]

Nah I just wanna see if anyone captured it

I did once but very faintly visible

[lean magnet]

i did but terribly

wait what how did it send

it was like 50mb and i dont have nitro

[grizzled lance]

You can kinda see it

Mine is ever so faint

But you cna tell

[lean magnet]

thats not triangulum

i dont think it even is in that picture

its here i think

[grizzled lance]

Nvmm

I probably got some star cluster then

[dry falcon]

Yeah that’s the double cluster

[halcyon rune]

Thats andromeda.

[lean magnet]

triangulum is there

[halcyon rune]

But quite invisible

[lean magnet]

it is pretty visible

its very bad but its visible

[halcyon rune]

Tbh I don't think anyone is crazy enough to do it except @iron bear

[halcyon rune]

Not bad actually

[lean magnet]

its clearly there just horrible quality

[halcyon rune]

You can make out the arms

[lean magnet]

i will reshoot it when i get a new phone

probably pixel 8 pro but idk

rn i dont have a telephoto

[halcyon rune]

Why is everyone worshipping pixel phones?

[halcyon rune]

Tbh just get a telescope and a tracker with your current phone

[lean magnet]

cause theyre good

[lean magnet]

i already have a setup

[halcyon rune]

Got an eq(nonmotorized) mount with telescope

[lean magnet]

i only do phone ap widefield

since i use a proper scope and astrocam for normal imaging

[halcyon rune]

Show me one of your works

[lean magnet]

this is with a bad guidescope but its my most recent image

[halcyon rune]

Pretty good, could use some blurx tho

[lean magnet]

i havent yet gotten a chance to use my newt with the new mount

[halcyon rune]

Have you tried cosmic clarity?

[lean magnet]

yes and it doesnt work for me

[halcyon rune]

Weird. It works awesome for me

[lean magnet]

all those programs like cosmic clarity and deepskydetail arent very good for me

i use graxpert deconvolution

[halcyon rune]

An option too

Not a bad option either

Cant do deepskyphotography yet so just sticking with lunar

[lean magnet]

rn i got zero clear skies any time soon

so i have some time to make the newt usable

[lean magnet]

why not

[halcyon rune]

I don't got the gear for it

[lean magnet]

what do you have

[halcyon rune]

Basic cheap newt with an eq mount

[lean magnet]

you said you got a motorized eq mount and a scope

[halcyon rune]

And my phone

[lean magnet]

yea so you can do deep sky

[halcyon rune]

I said nonmotorized

[lean magnet]

oh

[halcyon rune]

Not worth it tho

[lean magnet]

still you can do deep sky

[halcyon rune]

Not even for lucky imaging

F/12

[lean magnet]

how many mm fl

[halcyon rune]

900

[lean magnet]

ouch

76/900?

[halcyon rune]

Yeah

Uniprodo f90076

[lean magnet]

what mount do you have

[halcyon rune]

The worst eq mount imaginable

[lean magnet]

no name flimsy one?

[halcyon rune]

Usable but still can't figure it to what

[halcyon rune]

Pinpoint.

[spice gale]

Not bad yk

[lean magnet]

whar

[halcyon rune]

Ty, its like 400 frames!

[halcyon rune]

Out*

Its late for me

[spice gale]

Nice

[halcyon rune]

Can't text

Im going to go to sleep, because I will die of insomnia tmr

Hate school

Gn yall, clear skies

[wind spoke]

what dat?

[wind spoke]

if you have insomnia you cant sleep, you cant just sleep when you have insomnia.

[peak trout]

Andromeda can be seen in this

[zealous edge]

this was shot a couple years ago, iPhone 12 and 56mm monocular

I may try Triangulum again someday, what with my much better setup and experience

[lean magnet]

It's not just by phone then

[zealous edge]

well yeah

almost none of phone astrophotography is just with the phone

[lean magnet]

wdym

a lot of it is

[zealous edge]

not really

you need something to magnify the brightness and increase magnification, i.e. a telescope

you also need a method of processing

[lean magnet]

it helps but not needed

[zealous edge]

ok

well

[lean magnet]

well yeah the processing not on the phone ofc

but i mean the imaging

[zealous edge]

using some kind of optical enhancement device is the difference between this

And this

[lean magnet]

ik that

but a lot of phone astrophotography is without extra optics, even if it is a lot worse

and they specified just phone

[coral cedar]

Yesterday moon

[halcyon rune]

Exactly, thats why i wont be able to sleep today at school

[coral cedar]

Called composite image, merge into 1 image

[wind spoke]

so it is fake!!!

[coral cedar]

Bro no

[wind spoke]

yep :3

[coral cedar]

Shots were taken real, you need too stack and process it in photoshop

I have already explain it how to make it

Its not fake 🫥

[spice gale]

@coral cedar can you achieve this with an iphone?

[coral cedar]

Yes

I edited my friends pic

[spice gale]

How, is there an app maybe

[coral cedar]

He said his phone is iphone

[coral cedar]

No

Just regular photo app with raw settings activated

Just keep in mind when shooting, always centered the frame

[spice gale]

Oh ok

[coral cedar]

So when stacking the image, it doesnt make a weird artifact

[spice gale]

Hmm gotta figure it fast

[spice gale]

Yeah i get this

And how do i tske the images

[spice gale]

Autoclicker?

[coral cedar]

Just press it softly

If you have, try use it

[spice gale]

For how many times

[coral cedar]

50+ image should be good

Or 100++

[spice gale]

Wow

[coral cedar]

Cuz dng file from iphone are big

Like each are 100 mb

[spice gale]

Yeah

[coral cedar]

Man i had trouble when stacking it

[spice gale]

And how do i select iso and exp time

[coral cedar]

Try 20

[spice gale]

Ok i will

[coral cedar]

In iphone?

What series iphone do you have?

[spice gale]

Yup

15 pro

[coral cedar]

Oh wait that should be a settings for that

[spice gale]

I mean i can try on samsung too but idk

[coral cedar]

Hey i already tried with my samsung

It works anyway

Haha

[spice gale]

Ok

Ipl do iPhone tonight

Ok found it

The exposure adjustment setting

[coral cedar]

Oh you shooting right now?

[coral cedar]

Nice onee

[spice gale]

No but will in a couple of minutes

[coral cedar]

Heres mine with samsung

[spice gale]

Cleannn

Rn moon is behind a building so ill test astroshader on orion

Il its full moon but atmosphere too bad for planetary

[coral cedar]

Alrighttt good luck

If you had any trouble just ask me

Ill help what i can

[spice gale]

Ofc

Thanks

[spice gale]

@coral cedar

Fast

Autoclicker apps are all bs

Do i need to take 20 pics by tapping?

[somber lantern]

I managed this using ibis paint to merge the three images

But it was very far from easy

[spice gale]

Yooo this looks amazing

[normal oracle]

Are there any general phone astrophotography tips here? Or any guide will be really appreciated

[spice gale]

What questions do you have?

[dusty swift]

lol I wonder if I can do that in procreate

How’d you do it, seems interesting to try

[grizzled lance]

I thought it was triangulum

It was some star cluster lemme check rq

Ngc 752 I think

[wind spoke]

trimgle primgle :3

[coral cedar]

Lmao i was sleeping sorry

20 images by tapping should be fine

[coral cedar]

Ibis would be work

Snapseed can also

[spice gale]

Lol np

[robust fog]

Use Eagle image stacker

Or photomate r3

[coral cedar]

Hows it going

With your moon image

[spice gale]

Well i did 18 moon pics

Also a couple of overexposed ones

[coral cedar]

Nicee

[spice gale]

Also tested astroshader as i said

Should i send some examples?

[coral cedar]

Surw

Sure

You want me to process it?

[spice gale]

I mean if you could but not right now as im at school

Ill send you in dm today

[coral cedar]

Sheesh that looks coool

[coral cedar]

Nice sample

[spice gale]

Thanks

[coral cedar]

Alright

[wind spoke]

why so porpoile D:

[spice gale]

Ill edit them a bit later

[wind spoke]

you need to get loads of integration time

[wind spoke]

you need more integration time ngl

[sick rain]

I can't remember if I've posted this before here but this is what I was able to accomplish last summer

I'm gonna try putting my phone on my heq5 as soon as I can to hopefully get something far better

[spice gale]

Yeah ik, but it was my first time using and full moon

But i sure will

[wind spoke]

phone oh heq5 is crazy 😭

[lean magnet]

yea not a good idea

might break the heq5

[sick rain]

Gonna need at least an eq8r but I'm risking it anyway 💀

[sick rain]

Just wait till I figure out a way to auto dither it

[coral cedar]

today moon, idk why im so obsessed with mineral moon haha

[wind spoke]

thank god the clouds are making me miss full moon

[formal notch]

@somber lantern are you sure you shot at same iso?

i like openlivestacker but it can only stack when there are bright stars, also if untracked, it cant reject the images which suffer from coma

the main reason why i was interested in using openlivestacker was the 0 time delay and storage. I have now fixed the storage issue, for widefield the time lag shouldnt be an issue (cause i basically have to do nothing)

So should i try DSC for widefield tonight?

[somber lantern]

I think I shot at 6000 iso

300ms exposures because of my focal length

You can just barely see the core in the live view

[formal notch]

oh

[somber lantern]

I guide myself looking at the trapezium

[formal notch]

i see

[coral cedar]

Full moon was pretty dangg bright, ofc i want to shoot the moon today

[spice gale]

Do a moon animation

Of its stages

[coral cedar]

Yeah likely i want to do that

Since i got all of the phases now from waxing cresent first quarter and waxing gibbious

[coral cedar]

Hmm that might be great, alright ill do it thanks

[spice gale]

Yeah

[spice gale]

Mineral moon animation

[coral cedar]

, man that would be dope

Ill add audio after that

[simple crow]

I thought it was like a hubble image of like iris lol

[dusk crow]

Haha great

[formal notch]

finally found the soft spot for my phone (iso : 400)
a test frame of full resolution thats why there is lens distortion on the sides other than that star look fine. The proper FOV is waaay smaller (entire orion contellation).With that fov, lens distrotion dosent have a major effect

barely 5 mins int

open in browser for full res

[formal notch]

sadly its in all my widefield images

dithering is a pain for untracked

[potent gorge]

Is easy

[simple crow]

how though

its already dithering

[somber lantern]

I actually never thought you'd need to dither untracked

Until I did livestacking and noticed the noise lines

[formal notch]

wdym

thats only for like 2-3 hrs data

[somber lantern]

I sadly don't have the storage to make such long images

I need a new phone asap

[potent gorge]

Somewhat true about that

[lean magnet]

i don't have walking noise in like 15mins

or 8mins

[formal notch]

How low is your fov?

[lean magnet]

idk im at 26mm with phonw

or 24mm

[sullen parrot]

I get a lot of walking noise even with 20 minutes of data.

[coral cedar]

so ive got all of the phases of the moon, so i decide to make an animation

@spice gale i did what you say haha

[spice gale]

Awesome

Honestly

[coral cedar]

it was pain to align all of them into 1 💀

[spice gale]

I belive you

[coral cedar]

i did adding sound for final touch

[grizzled lance]

Let him cook

[formal notch]

thats nice

mine is 3.8mm

[lean magnet]

no the full frame equivalent

not the real fl

idk the real fp

fl

[formal notch]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
EVERYTHING WENT SOUTH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[formal notch]

oh almost the same tbh

[formal notch]

a better reprocess (left is old, right is new)

[coral cedar]

Can you send the data?

Can i try process it?

[formal notch]

Lemme check if i still have it

[wind spoke]

looks like it went southeast to me

[formal notch]

[formal notch]

i have newer data

this is my process of it

here

i am planning to get abt 30 mins on flame

the 10 mins looks bad but thats cause i was choosing 1/3 of full frame as my ROI

[coral cedar]

Ill try stretch later

Idk, it will good or no

[formal notch]

this is close to how my fov will be when i retry flame

[coral cedar]

Nice one

[formal notch]

its not an issue, these were the test images of all the different settings of ROI and iso i was testing out

[formal notch]

thx

[coral cedar]

Ahh i see

It still has an artifact, did you take dark?

[formal notch]

no

reset my settings so darks were flushed

[coral cedar]

Lmao

[formal notch]

😭

also the reson why i didnt spend more than 15 mins per img

[somber lantern]

WAIT I keep forgetting calibration frames 😭

Next time I shoot orion I'll use darks and bias

[floral token]

You can make a note for that, it's easy to forget but if you have a note, it would be very easy to remember it back

[robust fog]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.camera2.test

If anyone uses high ISO values

This app was recently resurrected

Check for your respective lens and the android.sensor.maxAnalogSensitivity category

Example

That value should not be exceeded when shooting raw as else you are digitally boosting image and may amplify unnecessary digital noise artifacts

Or cause unnecessary highlight clipping

[prisma raft]

still havent worked out how to enable raw capabilities on a rooted phone yet

[robust fog]

Which?

[prisma raft]

a55 5g

[robust fog]

And its rooted?

[prisma raft]

yes

[robust fog]

I'll do some digging in the dark side with a few contacts of mine

I'll see if anything you can do

Been curious on those a5x series

[prisma raft]

oh okay then

[robust fog]

It's exynos

Rip unfortunately 😞

Just got confirmation

Else with Qualcomm we have ways to mod it

[prisma raft]

yikes so no raw capabilities?

that sucks

[robust fog]

Nope

Full stop

Samsung screwed you

No reason it shouldn't have it

[prisma raft]

samsung is pretty stupid for just not having it

[ivory thunder]

do u mean samsungs in general bc my s20 ultra has raw

[lean magnet]

for nor giving some phones raw

i don't see any reason why they made some phones not support raw

[balmy ravine]

That's not true raw, you need to go to regular pro mode and enable raw in advanced photo settings

[grizzled lance]

Go to camera settings

And check where it says "save in"

It should say like save in jpeg or whatever

But change it to raw

I thjnk

[robust fog]

Flagship models get it

So S and Note series of old even

Not A series tho

[formal notch]

mines A04e (042f) and i hve raw capabilities (in all other camera apps)

[robust fog]

A04e? What the hell is that 🤣

Never heard of that model

[formal notch]

ik i never knew it existed

until i bought it

[robust fog]

They must have missed it

[formal notch]

i though hmmm this phone looks nice and the side button feels great how abt i buy it

[robust fog]

So kept raw API on

[formal notch]

def

lmao

[robust fog]

They recently showed such blunders

Forgot to turn on 60fps stream on S25U

[formal notch]

what

[robust fog]

But didn't on S25 normal

Yep

For third parties

[formal notch]

lol

[robust fog]

Patch on the way but they are morons

https://r1.community.samsung.com/t5/갤럭시-s/s25u-can-t-take-raw-photos-with-5x-tele/td-p/31618899

[formal notch]

yeah,thats why i never update my phone

[grave narwhal]

Picture taken with fob 8 and iPhone 13 a little overexposed but i Think its cute

[formal notch]

testing of MOE (Makeshift Oculars using Eyepieces)
abt 8 mins integration with messed up derotation and very thin high clouds

[lean magnet]

how come many people here have pretty noticeable walking noise even at multiple minutes of int time

i don't dither on phone and i don't have much walking noise with similar int times

[dusk crow]

Sun Today with Samsung Galaxy S22 ultra 10x camera

[iron bear]

B9 orion

[balmy ravine]

Nice, jpeg compression makes it hard to tell the resolution

[somber lantern]

Probably going over the iso limit

I use 3200-6000 iso usually but I dither

I KEEP FORGETTING TO TAKE CALIBRATION FRAMES

MAN

[lean magnet]

i do change my phones position like once or twice every imaging session to reframe

but still

[somber lantern]

I (since I'm 900mm fl) move the dec a bit left or right

[lean magnet]

even on one image where it was like 4 minutes and i didnt

theres a lot of noise

but not walking noise

[lean magnet]

oh i meant just widefield not through a scope

[formal notch]

Teach me your ways

[lean magnet]

wdym

how i dont get walking noise?

[formal notch]

Ya

[lean magnet]

absolutely zero idea

i just dont

i get a lot of regular noise but not walking noise

[formal notch]

How long are your ibduvisual exposures

[lean magnet]

8 to 15s

[formal notch]

That explains it

And i m guessing 1600iso

Mine is 340 ms

[lean magnet]

idk

lemme check

nvm i cant check

[formal notch]

Huh?

[lean magnet]

but i think 480 iso

i lost my subs

[formal notch]

Oh noise shouldnt be a lot with the 480

[lean magnet]

so i cant check the info on them

[formal notch]

Not needed, open deepskycamera and check what iso its at

If thats what you captured with

[lean magnet]

its at 300 but i know i never imaged under 400

[formal notch]

Oh

[lean magnet]

on this i think it was 4 second exposures and 800 iso

[formal notch]

Thats also good

There wont be a lot of hot pixels on your singular aubs right?

[lean magnet]

there was some i think but i dont really remember

not like filled with it but there def was hot pixels

i dont have any of my subs anymore to check

only final images

[formal notch]

Oh

I also delete all mt subs after use cause they take 25.6mb per img. And thats for 340ms so basically thats 25 gigs for 5.8mins

[robust fog]

I shared app prior

Ensure you DO NOT go into digital gain

You are literally begging for walking noise if you do since it gets amplified

Stacker will just roll with it but can be avoided

Calibration frames will also help massively to combat it

Darks alone will do a great difference

[robust fog]

This

Follow steps I wrote

[lean magnet]

yeah everyone says darks dont make a difference on phone

it does

my 40 minutes without darks looks like 15 mins with darks

[formal notch]

It crashes on my phone

Cant launch it

Found an alternative: Camera2info

It worked

[robust fog]

Find field I described

[formal notch]

Got it mines 1600

[somber lantern]

Same

[lean magnet]

camera2 info crashes for me

[robust fog]

Does camera 2 test work?

The one I shared?

This is so strange lol

They shouldn't be crashing 🤣

[formal notch]

Yeah fr 🤣

[wind spoke]

you got nebulation in your noise

you should probably remove that

[faint notch]

Not processed by me

Also Andromeda between a tree

[lean magnet]

Crashes on the 3rd camera

[robust fog]

Wait... Third camera..?

Wat

Use full report mode then lol

Lists them all

[faint notch]

Is this pleiades and orion?

[lean magnet]

Yes but Orion is behind the trees

[lean magnet]

Green circle is orion nebula

[faint notch]

Oh

[faint notch]

What is that brigth thing

[lean magnet]

Jupiter

[faint notch]

Okay

[spice gale]

Wow great images

[faint notch]

It was like late fall

1st and 3rd of january

[zealous edge]

Beautiful Aurora photos

[robust storm]

Takin on me iphone 12

10 sec exposure

[iron bear]

Orion that I took to test the guiding last night. I took this photo here in São Paulo B9 without filters, so I didn’t even process it. I just removed the background and applied BlurX basically

No darks etc too.

[spice gale]

I love how sharp it is

Nice one

[grizzled lance]

Guys you thinj I can process this?

[spice gale]

Ofc

Pipp

Stack

[grizzled lance]

These are the best frames I got before clouds came and my fingers freezing

Okk

Guys you thinj I can process this?

[spice gale]

Wym by processing

[grizzled lance]

Like stack the frames

[spice gale]

Yes ofc

Run it in pipp

[grizzled lance]

I never really stacked before 😅

[spice gale]

Ooh

Some tutorials should do

[grizzled lance]

What's that

[spice gale]

Thats how i learned

[grizzled lance]

I have dss

[spice gale]

Also learned by using old data

[grizzled lance]

I have sm of that

[spice gale]

Good

[grizzled lance]

I'll eventually learn

Whats pipp tho

[spice gale]

Its for deep space objects

[grizzled lance]

Ohhh

[spice gale]

Pipp is aligning every frame

So then you can stack in autostakkert4

[grizzled lance]

So it's just called pipp

[spice gale]

Yeah

[grizzled lance]

Alright then

[spice gale]

Download them

[grizzled lance]

Thank you bro I'll send the outcome

[grizzled lance]

Yeah I will

[spice gale]

Ofc

As i said

Youtube tutorials helped

Also experimenting and learning on old data

[dusk crow]

Bodes Galaxy with my IPhone 13. 2x500 ISo 9300 in b6 used AstroSahder

[iron bear]

Mono looks like an astrocam dataset

[spice gale]

Real

You should try running man nebula

Oh wait you did

[iron bear]

Yeah, but i wanna try in a b4. B9 it´s terrible

[spice gale]

Fair point

[grizzled lance]

Ok I'll process tmr cuz rn it's taking too long I have 7k frames but I learned how to crop image without removing Jupiter and kind off learn how to use registrax and autostakkert

So far going good

[spice gale]

Good

[zealous edge]

What optical tube was this shot through?

[wind spoke]

not if i eat it :3

[lean magnet]

😿

[formal notch]

10mins 🥲

using moe
try 2 abt 30mins
was set to autofocus that why stars arnt tight

For tonight-

1. Focus modifications on moe
   2)Autofocus = off
2. longer capture times (abt 30 - 45 mins)
   4)Derotation off
3. main target - M42 not NGC2024
4. Using full res with ROI set to 1/3

the reason why the res is abt the same with and without moe was cause i used binning 3 with moe and roi1/3(without binning)for without moe

[dusk crow]

a 114/500 newton and 40mm eyepiece

[faint notch]

Thanks

[faint notch]

Nice

[zealous edge]

Ah ok, nice

[robust storm]

Thats insane bro what phone u take that on??

[zinc heart]

The brown thing in the left top corner is an artifact or dust on the lens right?

[zealous edge]

Nah man that's just an edge-on view galaxy that decided to spontaneously start existing, completely normal

[lean magnet]

not sure what that is but its not something in the sky

[lean magnet]

i hate it when that happens

[zealous edge]

(to answer your question seriously, yes it's just a camera artefact, but a rather cool one at that)

[zealous edge]

fr, always appearing and disappearing at the most inconvenient times

[coral cedar]

Looks like a drawf galaxy, with massive black hole in the core, it looks cool tho

[coral cedar]

Ig u are using samsung?

[balmy ravine]

Lens flare from the light in bottom right

[undone dagger]

Guys

Which dslr is better to start with

Sony a100 or rebel t3i or d5100

[potent gorge]

t3i

[gusty zodiac]

i've only rly seen people recommending t3i so that ig

[robust storm]

First ever photo of carina

[copper sorrel]

Microscope vibes

[formal notch]

niceeee

[zinc heart]

No

[iron bear]

Xiaomi 12

[spice gale]

Looks interesting

What setup?

[balmy ravine]

I mean both use eyepieces

[fleet vector]

triangulum and andromeda visible in both images iirc

[robust storm]

I use an iphone 12 and a 10inch dob, pretty simple really definitely helps living in bortal2 as well.

[spice gale]

Wow bortle 2

[robust storm]

Yea it’s not hard to find in New Zealand

[lean magnet]

openlivestacker is not working

for some reason i suddenly cant do exposures longer than 146.7 milliseconds

[grizzled lance]

Guys help

The way my pc saves file is so annoying I spent 40min tryna find it this is the only file I could find then it's corrupted asf

I found a file as_p28 something liek thta I tried opening it in registrax it says non existent 😭

[wind spoke]

eww windows

[coral cedar]

Try copy it into the other files

I mean the other local files

Cuz u are storing the file into onedrive?

I rarely use one drive

[grizzled lance]

Alright

I'll try that

[grizzled lance]

My only pc 😔😔😔

[keen quail]

dual boot

[spice gale]

Its still better then apple

Jk ofc

[keen quail]

this is true

[grizzled lance]

I'm quite happy with what I got despite crappy seeing and shaky video

First time aswell

[spice gale]

Not bad yk

Stacked right?

[dusk crow]

For first time good. Jupiter is also not more in his season.

[grizzled lance]

Yeah

Its ok

But im happy with it

[robust storm]

Noice

[spring viper]

I got a chance to buy the new Xiaomi 14 now, but there is also an offer for the zwo 533mc for $600, I'm thinking about what choice to make😃

[zealous scaffold]

Get an astrocam, it's well worth it, take it from me who did phone AP and transitioned over after a year. I haven't gotten much use but the quality of my photos is exponentially different

Also not having to align a phone camera with an eyepiece is nice. Do keep in mind that an astrocam will change the fov and you'll likely have to get a reducer to zoom it out or a Barlow to zoom it in. It depends on the FL of your scope tho

[lunar beacon]

OpenLiveStacker allows Exposure that phone API allows. If it is 146ms than it is what it is.

Sometimes phone vendors install their own apps that allow access to underlying proprietary API and limit options for public API. So the user will be forced to use their app for all advanced features.

So not much can be done.

[lunar beacon]

And if it used to have longer exposures with OLS before make sure you selected correct camera

[lean magnet]

i did, but all 3 back cameras are like 120ms to 160ms

even tho i remember testing ols inside and doing multiple second exposures

[somber lantern]

That happened to me, it says I'm limited to 400ms, but you can still put longer ones, it usually says that I need to put no longer than 400ms if I tap enter, but if I instead tap the set button it does it

[lean magnet]

I can put a bigger number there, but the view just turns Grey if I do

[somber lantern]

It usually does that when it's taking the exposure

[lean magnet]

It does it forever

If i set it to 200ms and wait a minute nothing happens

[somber lantern]

Weird

[fleet vector]

ah i love 20$ telescopes

[lean magnet]

the image without the scope is better than the one with

[spice gale]

Yes, you got potential

[iron bear]

lets process again this data. I think I can make the photo look more natural than my processing from 8 months ago

[grizzled lance]

I actually got good viewing of Jupiter for once this is a ss of a recorded video

I can't wait to process 😁

[somber lantern]

I'm gonna try the milkyway like this this year

Holy discord compression

[bronze jackal]

Hercules and M13 shot with S22 Ultra 3x Lens (6x digital zoom)

[thorny bobcat]

first time getting spiral arms with my phone. m81

[spice gale]

Stacked?

[thorny bobcat]

yea. 71x16s

[spice gale]

Iso?

[thorny bobcat]

800

[spice gale]

And last question what telescope

[thorny bobcat]

nexstar 130slt

[spice gale]

Also i suppose you shot with a samsung

[thorny bobcat]

pixel 8 pro

[spice gale]

Oh ok

Its cool

You got the arms

[grizzled lance]

Damnnn

[iron bear]

Lagoon Nebula

• Reprocessing

📋 Exif:
🔭 Toya 114/900, eq3 with onstep, svbony 18mm 66° UFF eyepiece
📷 Phone, Xiaomi 12 (Imx 766)
⚙ 105x55s ISO 400
📌 Munhoz, Brazil. Bortle 4

[zealous edge]

Do you see a dark spot in the center of the FOV when you have your phone attached to your telescope? I do when I use my wider eyepiece, and I was wondering if there's a way to fix or bypass that

[dreamy pebble]

Are you using an obstructed telescope? That's probably because the eyepiece exit pupil is too large for the phone camera

[zealous edge]

I have an Orion StarBlast, so a 114mm reflector dob.

This only happens when I use my flatfield 27mm eyepiece, it doesn't happen with my 20, 15, and 10

[dreamy pebble]

Yeah, this is definitely due to the central obstruction. I actually can't use some Newtonians at large exit pupils for this reason; it actually gets worse with small central obstructions

Funny enough I thought I'd have this problem with using my RC visually, but at a similar 5mm exit pupil it's not an issue...

[grizzled lance]

Power of phone and telescope with stacking in ok conditions

150x magnification

[echo shell]

Man, u are a beast.

I hope u know that

[dusk crow]

Can someone capture this from New Zealand?

[potent gorge]

Helix is out of season

[dusk crow]

Yeah but it’s possible from the morning sky

[hollow sable]

insane

[floral token]

can someone stack my old mw photos? its like 7 of them, i cant do it, idk why?https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1DlOm38lC1CjuL3NswydMhUBI3aXLwi16?usp=drive_link

[spice gale]

My best pics with the new iphone 15 pro yet

[floral token]

yo dominic can you help me?

[spice gale]

With what

[spice gale]

This?

[floral token]

yeah its like 3 min work

can you see if you can stack them?

[spice gale]

I would but im not home

[floral token]

al np

[spice gale]

I’ll check them when i arrive

[floral token]

thanks

[robust storm]

Maybe

[bronze jackal]

Faint winter Milky Way

t o y o t a

[dreamy pebble]

Is that red patch actually due to some emission nebulae

Or is that a flat field artifact

[halcyon rune]

Artifact

On the right you can see the orion tho

[shadow idol]

how did u layer the foreground and background?

[bronze jackal]

Artifact from a cloud I think

Also the dark patch just next to it is an artifact I introduced trying to use a mask in photoshop and didn't notice

However the dark patch at the top right is actually some sort dark nebula / dust in the milky way

[balmy ravine]

What red patch?

[zealous edge]

On the far left side of the image, about 2/3rds down

[spring viper]

in the end I bought 533, waiting for delivery, but I think I will continue to shoot with my phone sometimes

Planets are better on a phone than on an astrocamera

[balmy ravine]

The sun with just my phone and solar filter

[patent zodiac]

I have the same phone but how come can i only go up to 30s exposure while u can 55s

[timid wedge]

heres first time i captured spiral arms with my phone

[thorny bobcat]

Wow

[dusk crow]

Good! How long exposure? I also capture it but I couldn’t see the arms in 10 min

[timid wedge]

this is 10min

i saw spirals at 2min

[dusk crow]

I can’t

Wich Bortle and Telescope?

[lean magnet]

the spirals are there

i see them its just faint

[dusk crow]

Yeah faint

[timid wedge]

b5 cuz of light dome and 6" f/8 dob

[dusk crow]

Ok I am in B6 and 114mm f4,4

[iron bear]

I use DeepSkyCamera... In the native app, it doesn't allow 55s of exposure either.

[iron bear]

Mine shows a similar effect, but it's more noticeable only in places with heavy light pollution. When I take photos in Bortle 3, it doesn't appear. But once I used a 150mm f/4 with the phone, a huge black circle appeared in the center of the image. Maybe it really has something to do with the focal ratio/secondary mirror size, as @dreamy pebble said... My 114mm is f/8, so the secondary mirror is small.

150mm F4...

And my 114/900 f8

Well, I need to redo this test with the 150mm f/4. I didn't have a 3-axis adapter at this time, so I couldn't adjust the distance between the phone and the eyepiece. Maybe it will change a little.

The 150mm had a coma corrector. I don't know the correct backfocus to use with an eyepiece, but we set it to 55mm when we did the test.

[zealous edge]

I did discover what was causing the dark black circle in the middle of my field.

The eyepiece i use, a 27mm 55° Flatfield, has a twist-up eyecup that travels up and down on a screw. When twisted all the way up for maximum eye relief, it puts the camera really far from the lens glass, and creates this dark spot. It is not noticeable at all when viewing normally.

[iron bear]

This problem doesn't happen with the camera... The field is 100% flat and vignetting practically doesn't exist.

[zealous edge]

Oddly enough if I twist the eye cup all the way down for minimum eye relief, it negates the dark spot entirely.

So atleast it's an easy fix

[dreamy pebble]

Ah yeah, it's just positioning relative to the exit pupil. For some long eye relief eyepieces this is a challenge - I only use LER eyepieces personally

Does the eyecup allow you to adjust it to an arbitrary position? That would actually be useful for figuring out where to space a phone camera

[spice gale]

Thats b7

Nvm its 6

[zealous edge]

It does, but it seems to work best at its lowest position, i.e. no eye relief at all.

it's honestly a really great eyepiece for its price

[dreamy pebble]

I was thinking about picking one up...perhaps I'll do that

[patent zodiac]

I use it too but it still doesnt let me go up to 55s

[iron bear]

So it must not be the same phone. Mine is the Xiaomi Mi12 and not the Redmi 12

[bronze jackal]

Shaky handheld orion photo

I should get a phone adapter

[spice gale]

Yes

Its a very good purchase

Necessary one for phone ap

[balmy ravine]

Sun through homemade pinhole viewer

No visible sunspots, will have to test when there are sunspots easily visible

[robust storm]

yep i would probs still avoid clouds tho

[tame gyro]

guys now hear me out

what’s stopping this from working

[balmy ravine]

it was a clear sky with occasional clouds, 2nd pic was cloud free

[patent zodiac]

Ah makes sense, mine is redmi note 12 pro

[spice gale]

Could pull out a nice picture or Timelapse video

[tame gyro]

Ooh that would be cool

[balmy ravine]

I wonder if you can record 2 different exposures and merge them together to make a hdr video

[lean magnet]

the camera

put them next to each other or put the phone on top the camera then it'll work

[tame gyro]

Dunno how to put it on the camera

[spice gale]

Or

Idk

[zealous edge]

My latest and greatest capture of the Flame & HorseHead nebulae, far exceeding the quality of my previous best image of this region.

Equipment is per the usual, my iPhone 12, Orion StarBlast dob, and a 27mm 55° Flatfield eyepiece.

Total integration is roughly 16 minutes, imaged and stacked in AstroShader.

[dusk crow]

Crazy how much data in 16 minutes. How long was a single Exposure time? I also capture this in 15 minutes with 2s subs and I can’t see anything from Horse head.

My attempt

[spice gale]

this is so amazing

bortle?

[balmy ravine]

Possibly iso or diameter difference

[zealous edge]

bortle 7.5 ~ 8

[zealous edge]

Single exposures were one second each, 952 of them in total

[spice gale]

Incredible

Good stuff

You used the repositioning feature right?

[zealous edge]

I love my StarBlast so much, so glad to have such an iconic piece of Orion Optics' history

[zealous edge]

Yes

[dusk crow]

I don’t understand I live in B6 and have a f4,4 telescope and can’t take good pic

[zealous edge]

to be fair a lot of luck and processing is involved

[spice gale]

Lots if integration time is important

[zealous edge]

It doesn't come out looking that good

[dusk crow]

Yes I also doing like 1000 pic

[spice gale]

Show

[dusk crow]

I not show anything

This was with 2s sub

[zealous edge]

Huh, that's odd

You should be getting more than that with that much integration

[dusk crow]

How ever I will buy one day a tracker and and the Flatfield eyepiece.

@zealous edge how high was the ISO? Is 10000 good?

[spice gale]

Hm

[zealous edge]

I maxed out the ISO at 32,000

[spice gale]

Its enough lol

[spice gale]

Really

1s and iso 32000

[zealous edge]

yes

[spice gale]

And then backgroun extraction and streching

Interesting

[zealous edge]

Gets noisy sure, but I can fix that later

[dusk crow]

No way

[zealous edge]

?

[spice gale]

Fair

You did others too?

[zealous edge]

wdym others?

like other DSO's?

[spice gale]

Yes

[zealous edge]

Yeah, I have a somewhat decent shot of the Orion Nebula I've shared here recently

E

[spice gale]

Mind if you send it again?

[zealous edge]

E

[spice gale]

Oh thanks

Looks nice

A bit noisy but good details

[zealous edge]

All of my images are noisy lol

[spice gale]

Well you do high iso

So

[dusk crow]

Ok next Clear Sky I will also try ISO 32000

But than I going with 1s exposure to reduce noise

[spice gale]

Yes one second

But idk about 32000

I think its too much

[zealous edge]

I mean, my Orion image was 32,000 ISO and the raw image without post processing looked like this

not really all that noisy

it wasn't stretched either though tbf

[spice gale]

Raw?

Clean

[balmy ravine]

With tracking?

[zealous edge]

no equatorial tracking. Technically it was hand-tracked, manually realigned whenever Orion was getting closer to the edge of the frame than I'd like it to be.

I use an Orion StarBlast tabletop dob, nothing fancy but it sure works a charm

[balmy ravine]

What diameter?

[zealous edge]

114mm aperture, 450mm focal length

[formal notch]

now i understand focal length def matters

this is (almost) my entire fov 😭

[floral token]

M51: Whirpool galaxy | Equipment: celestron 7x50mm bino(and necessary equipments) phone: nothing phone1 | setting used: 4 sec each exposure, 1600 iso. Total integration time : 24 min

[spice gale]

Bortle?

[dusk crow]

The Orion Nebula with my 40mm eyepiece

I did the math it was like 2x magnification but the field of view was very small so I crop much in

[floral token]

5

[spice gale]

Nice

[formal notch]

Similar thing i did too (Moe)

[dusk crow]

You also know this technique

I thought I am the only one

The eyepiece is not focusing with out a secon eyepiece

[formal notch]

Ik

I used a 25mm and a 10mm

My results

[ivory thunder]

sun

[spring viper]

My journey with the phone seems to be over...

[ivory thunder]

more sun (and cat)

[spice gale]

Well

Enjoy it

🫡

[balmy ravine]

is a deadly laser

[ivory thunder]

not anymore there's a blanket

[iron bear]

🫡

[hollow sable]

cute

[balmy ravine]

Thinest I've seen the moon i think

[grizzled lance]

Yeah defo

Along with venus

[zealous edge]

Oh that's cool

reminds me of the shot I got a few weeks ago, of Venus and the Moon

this one

[distant epoch]

It turned cloudy just as I was going to go out to look at the moon

[honest ferry]

are you from germany or near germany? XD

thats the time when i started packing my stuff lol

[distant epoch]

I'm in the US on the border of canada

Basically the farthest point north you can get for the US, but nowhere near as far as Germany lol

Looking at a map I guess I'm just as far north as Germany

[dusk crow]

I am from Germany Cologne and after I see the Moon there was Big Black clouds coming

[grizzled lance]

Mw in B5 bad seeings but pic looks decent

[formal notch]

Export in png next time, discord cant compress it

[grizzled lance]

Ohhh

Alright thanks 👍🏼

[dawn geode]

dayum wtf is that zoom that seems well too close for a phone at such detail

[grizzled lance]

At first it looked okay

But then stacked and processed

😍

[spice gale]

Ofc stacked looks much better

[balmy ravine]

Moon and venus during the day 1 and half hours ago

You will have to open in browser

https://youtu.be/ZVTsop2m7qM

It has a very high angular size, phase is visible through binoculars or phone

If your phone has a telephoto camera that is

[grizzled lance]

Oh damnnn

Its so faint but you can see it

I think Mercury is visible aswell for me rn

[balmy ravine]

Moon and venus

[dawn geode]

cool

[keen quail]

60 out of focus images are amazing

[spice gale]

I mean stars are there but so many issues

[keen quail]

i was too lazy to wait outside in -3C for 30 minutes

[spice gale]

Fair

[keen quail]

at least theres stars

thats what matters

[spice gale]

Yeah

[bronze jackal]

Crescent venus shot with only S22 ultra 10x lens and cropped

[balmy ravine]

S23 ultra

[balmy ravine]

This is my new pfp

[bronze jackal]

Better edit

Hmm there's some random colour banding in the middle

Oh well

[vernal tide]

This is so nice

[distant epoch]

How the hell did I, and let alone my phone, capture this

It's a single shot, a single exposure

The dark side is not great quality, but it's still impressive imo

This is a composite moon photo I made though

[balmy ravine]

How???????

[distant epoch]

No clue

[zealous edge]

With vim and vigor

(and probably some luck)

that's pretty crazy, getting earthshine from just a single exposure

I figured it was an HDR-resolvable only thing, needing multiple images stacked

[balmy ravine]

Just overlayed the 2 images

[bronze jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/dreamworks-dreamworks-animation-dreamworks-animation-skg-logo-moon-gif-15544748441665329703

[balmy ravine]

Stole my joke

[ivory thunder]

suddenly becomes a lot better at moon foto

[bronze jackal]

I actually didn't see this, I saw it in this channel first

[spice gale]

Thats another server so its not your fault

[bronze jackal]

a server that i am also in

[spice gale]

Oh ok

[balmy ravine]

A very bloo passport sky

[smoky scaffold]

crazy walking noise 😭

[spice gale]

Wow the core

Bortle?

[balmy ravine]

10 frames only?

[smoky scaffold]

yup 30s

[smoky scaffold]

4 facing towards my home town

[spice gale]

Oh nice