Phone Astrophotography

[sullen parrot]

I try to get away from city lights as much, but still there is still a lot of city lights

[floral token]

send me the result

[floral token]

yeah its bad sometimes

[formal notch]

Oh

[sullen parrot]

I don't have it on me now.

[floral token]

k

[sullen parrot]

But you can try and visualize it

a lot of vignetting

and the bottom horizon is very bright

I could go deeper into the forests to try and avoid the city lights.
But I have no idea how do I combat the vignetting

[formal notch]

Takeflats

[sullen parrot]

I'm on a phone

[formal notch]

So?

[sullen parrot]

I can't just tie a tshirt around my lens

[formal notch]

Tru

But i just point it at the sky unfpcused at it qorks

[sullen parrot]

really?

[formal notch]

Yes

If the sky is white

[sullen parrot]

don't you get a gradient from the sun?

the sky is blue usually

[formal notch]

Cloudy times

[formal notch]

Tru

[sullen parrot]

Rains are five months from now

[formal notch]

Aww man

[sullen parrot]

I wish I could just generate an arbitrary flat frame digitally

Can I just GIMP it or something?

[formal notch]

There is a way but i havent tried it.ask this in ask a nerd

[sullen parrot]

Oh okay

[floral token]

it shouldnt be that much tbh

the gradient and all

were you alligning the milky way? and learn more processing skills from yt

[sullen parrot]

Wait I forgot that I had already asked the question before

[sullen parrot]

Oh you know mister.

The vignetting is terrible

and yes I am learning skills from YouTube 😄

[floral token]

hmm ig mw is very near horizon so light pollution might be problamatic more than orion or other targets

[floral token]

yeah, keep it up

[sullen parrot]

It's not just on the milky way

but on almost every target I shoot

[floral token]

check your bortle scale first

[sullen parrot]

about 4

and it's probably because I haven't added flats yet.

[floral token]

i didnt used flats too

dont change much tbh for phone ap, like it wont be a major change

if you have already good shots, it can be better with flats but i think theres other problems to solve before dbf's

[formal notch]

Flats are meant for correction of veng, and dust spots so it should work but for phone, idk

[proper totem]

does anyone here with an iphone know how to stack dng images

im unable to in siril

[formal notch]

U dont use astroshader?

Use pther spftware like astrosurface

[proper totem]

does astroshader stack?

[formal notch]

Ye

[spice gale]

oh i understand

its like 70$ here

apreciate the help, thanks

[proper totem]

what if i’m untracked

[potent gorge]

It will stack

[proper totem]

sounds good thanks

seems like iphone raw isn’t even raw anyway so this helps a lot

[spice gale]

what iphone you got?

[proper totem]

15 po

pro

30 sec exposure iphone 16 pro bortle 3

[halcyon rune]

Mm tasty

[zealous edge]

yummers

[halcyon rune]

What do you mean overprocessed? It's literally the best it has ever been!

Ingame ofc

[formal notch]

@lunar beacon i am having an issue qhen connecting my UVC cam (Logitech C270) ithis shows up. Most of the time i connect it, it happens. only 1/10 times output comes properly (my webcam is 100% working and my pgone supports otg )

This happened whenever i choose any of the yuy2 options. With the mjepg option, it shows black screen.

[formal notch]

I am using another siftware (from play store still in dev) it wprks perfectly (all the settinga like exposure and stuff work even output in yuv2 works )so its a bug i think

[spice gale]

looks amazing, i want to buy 15 pro maybe next month, what do you think about the phone?

[spice gale]

also anotger question, does it matter if i buy it from aliexpress? or is it the same thing everywhere

[iron bear]

Same thing everywhere

Buy at the cheapest place

Shopee usually has lower prices than AliExpress. You just need to check if they deliver there.

[spice gale]

hmm never heard of it

no they dont deliver

i still save up like 10-15$ by buyimg from aliexpress than astroshop

[iron bear]

Astroshop is kind of expensive. The only thing I found worthwhile there is some mounts, like the EQ5. It's cheaper than here.
When I was getting my Exos 2, I was going to buy it in Portugal, have it delivered to a relative's house, and pick it up when I traveled there. But the Exos box is huge. It would be a lot of trouble to bring it on the plane.

[proper totem]

it’s pretty good honestly i had a regular iphone 13 before and it was a big upgrade

[spice gale]

nice to hear that

[dusk crow]

I wouldn’t risk an buy from Ali express. Get the phone from Appel.

Or like Media Mark ore Saturn idk what males are from you location

[proper totem]

i’m pretty sure he’s talking abt the eyepiece

[iron bear]

The Tridaptor arrived. I haven’t tested it with the telescope yet, but I’ll give an honest opinion:

The build quality is excellent, and it’s much lighter than the Celestron one. However, it has some play in the joints that bothered me. All the connections have slight gaps that cause a small change in the phone’s position depending on which side the telescope is on. It might seem minor, but it slightly affects the distortion and vignetting of the eyepiece. I’ll keep it anyway since I noticed the same kind of issue with the Celestron one. I’ll try making a few modifications to eliminate this effect.

Since it’s a metal adapter, I thought it wouldn’t have these issues. But apparently, it doesn’t seem too hard to i fix.

and the phone case needs to be rigid. If it’s a silicone case, the phone wobbles.

[proper totem]

wait btw i have the 16 pro not 15 ☠️ idk why i confuse it

they are generally the same i’ve heard

[spice gale]

oh ok

[spice gale]

[spice gale]

which one you bought?

[spice gale]

oh i saw a review on youtube

cant buy it from where i am

so i had to get the bulky celestron nex yz

[wind spoke]

id go with an android phone because cheaper and work better (anything but samsung, i hate samsung :3)

[spice gale]

i mean i already decided, but it wasnt easy to choose

ik its cheaoer and all that

but the ios feels diferent, icloud, everything feels clean yk

[wind spoke]

no, not really :3

[spice gale]

how not

i got lots of relatives that swiched from android to ios

from iphone 12 to 15

[wind spoke]

its terrible imo, its NOT stupidly customisable with you being able to change almost every aspect of the os, ios it locked down and its shit im ngl

:3

[lean magnet]

why not samsung

[wind spoke]

overpriced and proprietary

samsung android is barely android

[iron bear]

I fixed it with a few pieces of silicone. Now it's good.
Even buying the best adapter, DIY solutions still stick with me

There’s a word in Portuguese called “gambiarra.” Unfortunately, it has no direct translation into English. Gambiarra keeps chasing me

[lean magnet]

what's better for the price then

i don't care much about the proprietary part, its still way better than Apple and good enough for me

[lean magnet]

bc google pixels are even more expensive

[wind spoke]

nothing

[lean magnet]

then it isn't overpriced

[wind spoke]

no nothing

the company nothing

😭

[lean magnet]

oh

[wind spoke]

also Motorola but thats more of a budget phone

[lean magnet]

i forgot that existed

[lean magnet]

yea Motorola beats the lower end Samsung ones i think but they don't have a competitor to like the s23 ultra which i wanted to buy

[wind spoke]

yea

[lean magnet]

they don't have something like the s23 ultra

😔

[wind spoke]

they have better :3

their phones run bettwr

more performance

and stuff

the camera isnt the main oart

[iron bear]

https://www.deepskycamera.de/en/smartphones_app_detail_nightmode.php?fbclid=IwAR0zgSTSxktYq0Fzi9PPrQD3Qvc2vUOtMB9X89_1ffmNeq-5TjAnGD44WWs

[wind spoke]

their actually trying to do something different instead of changing a camera and the processor

[iron bear]

Check through this link... Try to find one that combines good pixel size, a large sensor, and supports more than 30 seconds of exposure. There are several in this list.

[lean magnet]

that's what i care about the most tho

idc if the phone has a 3 hour battery life and is slower than my old LG if it has a insanely good camera

that's only if there's like absolutely no competition to how good it is tho

i still do care about that stuff

[wind spoke]

Samsung has ai image enhancing

[lean magnet]

that's fine for daytime imaging

for astro i don't use the camera app anyways

[wind spoke]

the camera app is fine tho?

[lean magnet]

i only use it for framing

apparently samsung processes their raws

and they don't have an option to not shoot jpg

only raw+jpg which is annkying

annoying

[stable sundial]

looking great man

[undone dagger]

Tysm amigo 😄

You really made my day man

[stable sundial]

np its deserved

[undone dagger]

My next move is to get a dslr

Can't wait

[robust fog]

Mi11u

If you can cool it down

It's DCG capable

Root it and you'll be blown away

14-bit raw images

Like... Real, pure raws

Dynamic range to match a full frame and SNR that feels like cheating

Else 13U and 14U also got DCG with 1 inch sensors

[lean magnet]

not gonna root

im not buying a phone just for astro

it's for main use

[robust fog]

OnePlus 8 pro then

Main lens aged like wine

Cheap as hell

It performs as good as my pixel 8 pro main lens

[lean magnet]

i don't see any new

also i can afford something better

is it better than the s23 ultra?

[somber lantern]

Do multiple 12s instead of 32s, most stacking programs align the images using stars, you don't need tracking. But be warned the edges of the images might look a bit funky, specially on light polluted skies or when the object moves a lot out of frame
First one is 5 minutes on B7 and second one is 20 minutes on b7

[analog stag]

You can see the 7 sisters and the Andromeda galaxy

[robust fog]

S23U is solid

Nothing spectacular but if you want a phone too, why not?

Any reservations against it? It's average so that's good enough lol

Native x10 should fare well for astro

[lean magnet]

i just mean is there any other phone thats better than it in almost every way

bc if not i will probaby get the s23u

[fleet vector]

where andromeda

[robust fog]

Just get it

Good time as any for a discount

People are parting ways with them happily at this season

8 Gen 2 is solid

Camera hardware is identical except for UWA and x10 tele

Plus you get the extra goodies

I wouldn't go Samsung myself but I can't deny they are good for general use

[lean magnet]

what would you go then

other than the mi11u since i don't wanna root

[robust fog]

Myself? Xiaomi 14 Ultra, Vivo x100 Ultra

[lean magnet]

and the oneplus 8 pro bc i don't see new ones

[robust fog]

I'm currently waiting for x200 ultra

^^ 90% chance it's my next upgrade

Unless they fook it up, then Xiaomi 14 Ultra

The vivo package is exquisite

But on a budget and assuming no root, S23U or Pixel 8 Pro

If you want primarily camera, go pixel

[lean magnet]

14 ultra is pretty expensive yeah

[robust fog]

But if you want a strong all rounder like gaming and such, 23U

Jack of all trades, master of none, better than some

[lean magnet]

what i care about most is camera and battery

i do play games on my phone but not that often and when i do its nothing too demanding

[robust fog]

Battery concerns disqualify P8P

It's terrible

[lean magnet]

and also battery lifespan, planning to keep whatever i buy for at least 5 years

so i don't want something that degrades quick

[robust fog]

Go Samsung

OnePlus devices have solid batteries and cameras

But lack a good tele

[lean magnet]

btw another thing

would smth like a 24+ be better than a 23u

[robust fog]

You sacrifice main lens (inferior one) and long range tele is lost

But you gain performance and battery life

Make of that what you may

Also, ensure

ENSURE

If it's a + you don't get Exynos

Will fook your day real good

[lean magnet]

yea dw ik about that

how much of a performance gain if you know?

if it's >15% it doesn't matter to me

[robust fog]

8 Gen 3 is a good increase

Easy 20%

[lean magnet]

Do you have one that has the snapdragon 865?

[robust fog]

You don't care for power/performance

You care about efficiency

So look at the peaks from height

Relative to power use

[lean magnet]

then the 8 gen 3 is fine

[robust fog]

Exactly, so s24+

[lean magnet]

gen 2

i meant

[robust fog]

That's s23

[lean magnet]

ik

[robust fog]

8g3 is more efficient

[lean magnet]

yea ill probably do 23u then

[formal notch]

i think my mom's phone is s23

Phone untracked needs a LOT more int to get better stuff (this is barely any)

[fading bobcat]

Tracking was all over the place, but 20 minutes worth of data

Was limited to ~2 subs cause it was cold

And windy

Very very windy

[spice gale]

looks amazing

what phone?

[fading bobcat]

Samsung note 20! And thank you!

[spice gale]

wow

trough a telescope?

[fading bobcat]

Yeah through an svbony 48p

[spice gale]

wild results🔥

[fading bobcat]

Ty 🫡

[lean magnet]

i thought they discontinued the notes when the ultras came out

[formal notch]

Same

[iron bear]

Have you seen the new S25s? Overall, it seems like they haven't evolved much compared to the old ones. But all three in the S25 lineup are supporting 600s raw sub (5 minutes). And that's without root

The information (sensor diameter) is incorrect. It should be 1/1.52 since the pixel is 2 microns with binning supported by raw

[fading bobcat]

Yeah it's a few generations behind, but it's the best I have

[spare ravine]

@iron bear what targets do you recomand with my setup

I have a 12” dob on an eq plate

32, 24, 12mm eyepices

iPhone 11 pro

0.5x focal reducer

[robust fog]

Pretty much Camera2API improvements

Hoping to get a report this Friday

[robust fog]

I'm dying to get the x200u

1/1.28 35mm

🤌🤌🤌

[iron bear]

Well, I don't have a view of some objects in the northern hemisphere, so I haven't photographed many of them. But among them, the M27 was one of my favorites. So I recommend it, as it's also very bright.

Among the galaxies, there's the Sculptor Galaxy, Leo Triplet, and Sombrero Galaxy... all three (or six if you consider that the Leo Triplet has three galaxies) are easy to capture. They don't require a long exposure time.
Aside from these, there are small planetary nebulas like the Saturn Nebula, Ghost of Jupiter, Ring Nebula, and M46 (which is an open cluster with a small planetary nebula inside) among many others. I usually open Stellarium and look for some

And I would use the 32mm eyepiece or the 24mm one. Without the 0.5 reducer

[iron bear]

There are several current phones allowing 300+ seconds of exposure. It even makes me want to get a new phone, but I won't do that. I'll buy an astro camera first

Unless my MI12 has some problem. But that's quite unlikely

Imagine combining a stacked CMOS, with a pixel size of 3.8, a one-inch sensor, and variable aperture, doing 600s frames... It's tempting to get a phone like that instead of an astro camera and keep doing 100% of the photos with the phone. But I won't go for that craziness just yet. Let me save up some more money first

[fading bobcat]

A little comparison I did between using my 130mm newtonian and the svbony 48p

Same equipment besides that

[robust fog]

I just want a device with TCG

Or even DCG is fine

Let me show you the power of DCG

Single capture, 14 Ultra, DCG turned on, I believe 15s capture, totally untracked at Bortle 7-8

[iron bear]

https://tenor.com/view/sonfys-nervios-gif-8896313124420390361

It's not in the same Bortle, but you can get an idea of the noise pattern. And my Mi 12 already has very low noise.

Mi 12 on the left and M14U on the right

I need to do some ISO tests. I usually use 400 because 800 gets too bright. Maybe if I use 800 or even 1600 and digitally reduce the RAW brightness until it matches the brightness of 400, it might have less noise. I have to admit, I still haven’t done this basic test

[robust fog]

DCG is unbeatable

We've studied it thoroughly

It essentially shoots multi gain

[iron bear]

After the modifications, the eyepiece is now 100% tilt-free on the Tridaptor. The new photos are looking promising.
I just need to test it now

[robust fog]

So say iso 50 and iso 800

Merges it real-time of course, but it further uses the different analog gain readout to FILTER noise

At the hardware level

Plus gives 14-bit depth

[robust fog]

Correction

10s capture lol 😁

[iron bear]

I'm designing a 3D-printed part that fits inside the eyepiece cap all the way to the phone's lens, eliminating stray light.
If the idea works, I'll share it here.

The ideal would be to sacrifice a phone case and glue this part to it. But maybe it’s possible to make it so it stays loose in the space between the eyepiece cap and the phone. I’ll run some tests here.

[balmy ravine]

can anyone stack this? my autostakkart goes crazy: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iOdQFhQU_J_gBAdF5wfb7q_npCMLYosz/view?usp=drive_link

[undone dagger]

I have a question what should I do to improve my image more

This is my latest image

[spice gale]

could i try edit it?

but the final result will be compressed

[dreamy pebble]

DCG = dual conversion gain? Then TCG = triple?

[robust fog]

Yes

[sullen parrot]

I'd recommend to get rid of those artifacts

They look kind of "not-usually-present-in-the-night-sky"

[robust fog]

TCG here

DCG here

A video to explain DCG too
https://youtu.be/TYdEHoPo6jA?si=_h6DC3Km7EGmdjyd

It's the future

14 stops of DR easily on a phone sensor, increases full well effective capacity

Filters noise at hardware level, transforms a 10-bit ADC sensor onto 14-bit

Results against a full frame R5

https://youtu.be/yf_aWH0sjpk?si=DYrPo1IYE9SAJFYH

[silent pumice]

Brotle scale?

[ivory thunder]

it's not the sun?

[balmy ravine]

He says, bortle 7

[spice gale]

looks like 6 tbh

i am in 7 and you could never see it

[undone dagger]

Ofc

[undone dagger]

It's cuz there were buildings and I tried cropping it out

[spice gale]

unimaginable amount of compression

[spice gale]

but yeah here you go

[grizzled lance]

Yeha ik it looked like it

[ivory thunder]

lzma ahh

[somber lantern]

Im actually in b9

But that's looking outside of the light dome

East-north is outside of the light dome and it's right where the milky way rises

The other half of the sky is orange/gray

[spice gale]

umm excuse me

did you say b9?

[somber lantern]

I did

[formal notch]

Guys hod much should i keep my iso? Is 1600 too much?

[somber lantern]

Depends on exposure time

[formal notch]

For 16seconds?

[somber lantern]

Yeah it's plenty, for 15+ seconds I usually do 400-800 iso

[formal notch]

I see. I always thought why my images were this noisy lol

[spice gale]

yeah always experiment

untill youll find the perfect balance

[formal notch]

Yeah

It was a real pain. No software was able to stack and i was like whaaaaaaaat After all this hardwork, u give me this aaaaaaaaaa

[spice gale]

damn

i use deepskystacker

learn pretty quick

but yeah

[spice gale]

my first Mars pic

[undone dagger]

Dang what did u use?

@spice gale tell me your secrets 🙏

[spice gale]

lol there is no secret

filmed for 30 seconds

the telescope is dobson heritage 150mm

and zoomed 2x

because atmosphere was too bad to use the barlow

stracked, astrosurface and lightroom helped highlighting the details

[zealous edge]

about what magnification would you say you were at?

Or rather what eyepiece did you have mounted in the focuser tube

[spice gale]

oh i forgot to say sry

i used a 6mm goldline eyepiece

[wind spoke]

done with phone trust

[spice gale]

no way

[zealous edge]

Ah ok, so 125x magnification. Not bad!

[spice gale]

with my 2.5x im at over 300x, so very clise to my max

but its too much

tgat is why im searching for the perfect eyepiece

[zealous edge]

Even if the heritage 150 can reach that magnification, atmospheric conditions will have to be utterly pristine

[spice gale]

i realised that

only in ideal nights

the image would be really amazing

but in gwneral its just too much

also phone ap with it its impossible

[balmy ravine]

You can use motion extraction on moon footage to see air movement

[undone dagger]

That's a nice telescope

I thought It was only a phone and a tripod 😭

Ik sounds impossible

[spice gale]

imagine

[undone dagger]

[spice gale]

i mean its portable and 6" diameter, but focuser is meh

[undone dagger]

I really want to get a dslr so I can really start 🙏

[spice gale]

a phone works too

when you stack the frames

but it does not compare

[lunar beacon]

Which app works? I want to compare.

[balmy ravine]

Air movement visible: https://youtube.com/shorts/qoMBVgaDV5E

[somber lantern]

20 second livestack if only I could process it properly

[undone dagger]

Hey that's still a beautiful image

[somber lantern]

Thank

[formal notch]

N-ext camera usb

[somber lantern]

Talk about improvement

And this was just a test, making a longer one soon

[formal notch]

what are uusing?

which phone and stacking software?

[somber lantern]

Moto g13 114/900 using livestacking

App is openlivestacker

The dev is here

Oh wait you know they are

[formal notch]

wait we use the same scope

noway

and the same software

[formal notch]

yeah

ik

[somber lantern]

Crazy

[formal notch]

our mag is also similar

[wind spoke]

if u want i can try edit it :3

[balmy ravine]

Why is green?

[wind spoke]

hydrogen beta emission

[undone dagger]

What did u use to get such an amazing shot (:

[formal notch]

Samsung A04e (1/3 second exposures) through a 114/900 scope (untracked) and stacked using openlivestacker

Thx

[somber lantern]

Sure

https://we.tl/t-5VaDWxvqDi

[robust fog]

For a phone

There's a way to know 100%

Many don't know about it

You got two types of devices - those that max out analog iso at low values

Those that dont

For the latter it's about what you find SNR to be ideal at

For the former however, you should never exceed analog

[undone dagger]

Dang nicee how much did that telescope coast you

[old nimbus]

hyades centered widefield on my s9

i think it was 6x10" iso 800 f/1.5 but i cant remember

open in browser because discord really does not like this image

[grizzled lance]

B6

Yours look much better

Light pollution really hits

[fleet bramble]

what phone?

[formal notch]

The cost of the scope was 12000 inr or 138.42 usd

Thx

[formal notch]

taken thru phone i dont remember how much exposure

[zealous edge]

had a really great session tonight, am very excited to do post processing.

would this belong in widefield Milky Way pics? Or somewhere else?

[formal notch]

widefield

[robust fog]

@iron bear

I summon thee again

https://youtu.be/OXM3RDxuyF8?si=2uoNqUST2_JA_sAC

Be ready to get mind blown

You could likely go lower

[robust fog]

Run Camera2API test

I explained it here

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/s/4SGvloGKp7

Playstore link is botched so run the APK instead

Once done, search for maxanalogsensitivity

May very depending on lens

Voila, your max ISO

Should answer it hopefully

If it's dirt nasty high, at your discretion

Else, if it like 800 or something, never go above for RAWs

Oh

Hold on

https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/camera2test/

First link

Run it in full scan

You want max analog sensitivity

Lens Id is whichever lens you are looking at

Often 0 or 2 are main, etc

Never go beyond

21?

Must be logicala

Ignore those low ones

Keep looking

Hardware ones

What device?

Non ultra?

Ooww

Can you share report

I think it's 12-bit from what I heard

[exotic merlin]

i think it alright

[spice gale]

looks nice

is it stacked?

[exotic merlin]

nah its just a 30 sec exposure im still figuring out how to properly make my tracker work

[spice gale]

wow what phone do you have?

also what tracker do you use?

[iron bear]

A bit out of focus, but still a good raw. What I noticed is that it has more vignetting than my Mi12. It must be due to the lens aperture... Setting it to f2 should improve it.

A raw shot of the Milky Way. There's quite a bit of noise on the horizon since there's no light other than the illuminated sky, but the sky itself looks good. The Mi14 Ultra should improve this issue with the dynamic range in dark areas quite a lot

[robust fog]

I think the focus is f1.6 related too

I can explain

But will forever fundamentally warp your understanding of ISO

So if you don't want to go in that rabbit hole, the tldr is don't exceed it for raw, and don't push it hard beyond when using lossy, so videos and jpegs, etc

I wouldn't go full res (50mp), but yes it's good otherwise

[iron bear]

I don't think so... It's probably just the focus

[formal notch]

12 is plenty tbh

13 full frame

13 almost full frame

[fleet vector]

edited image vs raw image

2 different images

[spice gale]

raw is made to be stacked

[fleet vector]

idk why i said raw, probably half asleep when i made that

[robust fog]

It's not true 50mp

That's why

Quad bayer

[spice gale]

lol

[dusk crow]

Jupiter in Daylight

[robust fog]

So, what do you think?

Low ISO works as good/better, no?

You gotta stack

Noise is normal

[floral token]

its simple, if you have a bright light dome where you shoot, or bortle scale more than 5 or 6, go for iso 800. if you have kind of dark skies, go for 1600iso. if you go for higher iso in bright city, your images will be washed out by light pollution

i hope this helps out

[dusk crow]

ISS in Daylight with my 40mm eyepiece 12,5x no tracker

[zealous edge]

My first ever composition image, the Moon and Venus from last night. Two individual images, both shot with my iPhone 12 and Orion StarBlast dob using a stock 10mm eyepiece.

Stacked the best frames from a two minute video of Venus, and a 20 second video of the moon. Stitched together in post.

Unfortunately there were some trees in the way of the moon, but I couldn't possibly let this moment go to waste.

Uncaptioned version also included

[balmy ravine]

None of those are raw, both look jpeg

[robust fog]

Still looks good

What bortle

Respectable then

How many frames?

Ahhhh

That's nothing

You have much more to give

You need at least a couple dozen

I generally sit in car

I got a little screen

To monitor it

Wait, what

Why

So you use stock, no?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobilephoton.intervalometer

Let it do the work

What?

Lol it's pretty robust, it's nothing

Also, if you want to go free route

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buzbuz.smartautoclicker

I prefer the former

Although then again, I use Motioncam 😁

Both are useful to me

If I need stock intervalometer and have no bt shutter, intervalometer

Else Motioncam

[formal notch]

ur out of focus aww man

[fleet vector]

a little un focused

[formal notch]

Ueah do manual focus

Phone dosent focus properly

[spice gale]

i mean you set it one time and its enough yk

the stars will remain at the same distance

well you learn from mistakes dont you

[spice gale]

not on the ground

big nono

because for example you put it on some rock

even though it doesbt look like it the screen cracks

slowly

ok

just saying

good then

but a tripod would still be the best choice

i got mine for 30$

does its job

first experiment

if you did then good

yeah

focus might be the most important

you zoom in

or dont

on some stars

then focus it manually

and take some exposures

umtill you find the best focus

also shoot raw

what phone do you have?

🔥

[somber lantern]

I've noticed the most perfect focus is a bit before infinity

I never move it from there

[formal notch]

gcam?

[formal notch]

same

[somber lantern]

Android built in camera

[formal notch]

pretty cool

[somber lantern]

Can you shoot pro mode?

Use that mode

[formal notch]

ur using DSC?

[somber lantern]

Right before 1 then

[formal notch]

oh

[somber lantern]

Yeah

Also a bit unrelated I tried open live stacker and I've never got such amazing results

Recommend it

It beat my past dss and siril stacks

[formal notch]

same

yeah it works fabulously (cause of the 0 time lag in capturing)

[somber lantern]

Live stacking app

Android free

[formal notch]

https://github.com/artyom-beilis/OpenLiveStacker

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.openlivestacker&hl=en

[somber lantern]

Few things to know

If you opened the camera and or started stacking the app will continue to run in the background unless you close with the close and exit button

[formal notch]

even after closing with exit button, it may be there so make sure u check it while leaving

[somber lantern]

And (idk if this happened to others, it happened for me) the images get saved in android>media>org.openlivestacker>stacked

I use zarchiver to reach them

[formal notch]

same

[spice gale]

0.7 is usually the best

but test it

[spice gale]

damn unlucky

[balmy ravine]

It changes with temperature

[spice gale]

yes

[dusk crow]

Orion with my IPhone 12 Pro Max 2,5 Tele camera, AstroShader 7sek and 254p 30m total exposure. B6 33% moon.

[wind spoke]

you can see the flame nebula

rosette too

[dusk crow]

Yes

[robust fog]

No, Exynos

Use pro mode, not expert raw

They should be fine then

What happens on it

Just won't do long exposures?

Huh

Can you try Motioncam

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motioncam

I'm curious since if it also fails it's broken raw stream

Should report to Samsung

No

Believe me, don't get Stockholm syndromed

They maybe changed API but not raws

Totally different

Try MC

Tell me if it works

Samsung broke S24U main lens and now tele lens raw streams

Shoots purple shit now, they are incompetent

S25u has broken tele raw stream too

I'm saying they have precedent of wrecking things

S24 having issues therefore is completely possible

Try MC and confirm

If so you need to type bug report to Samsung now before your device gets older and becomes forgotten

Perfect

Report to DSC dev then

Remem that API thing I showed you?

Enclose that file into email

Send it to him

Will show him the API keys they use if that's what he needs

It contains no personal data

It's just reading the camera parameters running for third parties

Man if his talents con probably fix it but not if he has no data

Ask and you shall receive 🙂

[zealous edge]

I am proud to present my latest and greatest capture of this classic winter target, the great Orion Nebula and Sh-2-279, more commonly referred to as the Running-Man Nebula.

This image consists of a little over 8.5 minutes of integration time, photographed using my iPhone 12, AstroShader, and my Orion StarBlast dob. Bortle 7.5, around 8:30 ~ 9:00 PM, decent seeing conditions.

I saved three separate versions of the original raw image with variance in exposure, and then made a composite image of the three in order to bring out fainter details, without blowing out the core. It took a while to manually correct each star for aberrations, but it was definitely worth it I'd say.

This was taken using my new 27mm widefield eyepiece, it absolutely surpassed my expectations. Planning on doing a Flame & Horsehead shot with the same equipment, we'll see how that goes.

[spice gale]

this looks amazing

[spice gale]

the running man neb looks beautiful too

[zealous edge]

yeah, I'm particularly fond of the colors

[spice gale]

yes true

it fits well on running man neb

cant wait to get an iphone and use astroshader

[floral token]

2.5 min int from 7x50bino and phone. re-edited to get more dust, so more noisey as its only 2.5min integration time

[balmy ravine]

I don't see the diffraction spike actually showing colours very often

[wind spoke]

this was taken with phone, trust

[robust fog]

Ok, put Lucas' phone back where it belongs...

[balmy ravine]

in bortle low with e tracking mount?

[wind spoke]

mbbb

[spice gale]

that phone looks INSANE

[undone dagger]

Guys I want your advices

Do I buy a lens

For my phone

[spice gale]

umm no?

what kind

@undone dagger

[undone dagger]

Idk any kind that helps me get a better pic

@spice gale

[spice gale]

a telescope heh

or a camera

[spice gale]

what kind of photos

[undone dagger]

Orion

Andromeda

[spice gale]

hmm

budget?

[undone dagger]

Hmmm

20 buck xd

[spice gale]

heh

good luck finding a seller

jokes aside

[undone dagger]

Dw it's very cheap in egypt

[spice gale]

best choice is to save up more

[spice gale]

you want it to be portable ir just to take good pics of those dso

@undone dagger

[undone dagger]

Just good pics

[spice gale]

ok

and what kind of telescopes do you have in egypt

that you are willing to buy

@undone dagger

[undone dagger]

None

[spice gale]

interesting

[undone dagger]

Yea

[spice gale]

diy?

[undone dagger]

No really like there are no vendors or telescope shops in egypt

[undone dagger]

Wha

[spice gale]

you could travel to some other country

[spice gale]

make your own phone

[undone dagger]

I don't think a 16 year old would really be able to travel to another country

[undone dagger]

[wind spoke]

yup trus :3

[spice gale]

parenta?

[undone dagger]

We are not that rich to go to other countries

[spice gale]

hmm

what phone do you have

[undone dagger]

Redmi note 8

Sorry for late responses btw

[spice gale]

no

[spice gale]

so

my suggestion

is

[undone dagger]

Hm

[spice gale]

to save up more

[undone dagger]

Yea?

[spice gale]

and improve on ap with the phone you have

widefield

what bortle are you in?

[undone dagger]

7

[spice gale]

mm

same

[undone dagger]

Nice

[spice gale]

yeah

you got low bortle near you?

[spice gale]

also you got any pics with your phone?

[undone dagger]

Yea

[spice gale]

oh ik this

looks nice

another suggestion

save up more for a new phone

if the telescipe market is so dry

[undone dagger]

Alr

Also

My focus

When I'm adjusting it

Do the stars needs to look what

[spice gale]

as small as they can

[undone dagger]

Oh alr

[spice gale]

that means focus

[undone dagger]

Do I just set it to infinity?

[spice gale]

when you can see lots of small sharp stars

[spice gale]

depends

[undone dagger]

Was my focus good in the image?

[spice gale]

you zoom on a bright star and play with the focus setting

[undone dagger]

Alr

[floral token]

lol

[undone dagger]

Thoughts on the image :D?

[bronze jackal]

Single 4s coma star cluster exposure with S22 Ultra 10x lens

[undone dagger]

Niceeeeee

[stable sundial]

awesome dude

[undone dagger]

Thanks my man (:

[stable sundial]

np

just calling it how I see it

[undone dagger]

Really appreciate it

❤️

[bronze jackal]

Just got 157x 4s on coma clustet

About 10 mins

Seeing is good today

First time in about 5 months that i've been able to see mag 5 stars from my window

[stable sundial]

that should look alright

wanna show us?

[bronze jackal]

I will when i stack them tomorrow

[dense holly]

Samsung A53 on a 6" dob

[stable sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-gif-26872610

[spice gale]

howwww

this looks so good

what dobsonian do you have?

[potent gorge]

read it again slowly

[ivory thunder]

great but my tired ass thought this was a picture of the pavement before I saw orions belt

[spice gale]

lmao ik that

but flextube

classic

[spice gale]

also how msny frames

i need to know bc we have very simmilar setups but your umage is out of this world

noo he is frim america

he is asleep probably

im never gonna find out

[balmy ravine]

ISS solar transit

[formal notch]

a reprocess

[spice gale]

looks clean but its a shame that there is no nebulosity in orion

[formal notch]

yes ill try again tonight

[spice gale]

ok cool

what phone you used?

[formal notch]

i have nebulosity edit of it but the stars look bad

[spice gale]

oh ok

[formal notch]

samsung A04e

[spice gale]

ooh

small exposures

makes sense

[formal notch]

yeah

neb edit

it isnt that much tbh

[spice gale]

yeah looks nice

you even got ngc 2024

[formal notch]

whats that?

[spice gale]

flame neb

[formal notch]

i cant see it

[spice gale]

just ab there

[formal notch]

oooohhhhh

[spice gale]

its compressed here

[balmy ravine]

https://youtu.be/j4ZVSXGCNVc

[undone dagger]

XD

[coral cedar]

trying mineral moon with my phone and telescope

[balmy ravine]

You need to stack to get rid of noise

[coral cedar]

i think its pretty decent

[coral cedar]

stacked already

idk why it make a weird artifacts in there

i use pipp autostakkert and registax

idk why single frame looks best, but the noise are pretty bad

[spice gale]

this is 100% not taken with a phone

looks to good

[coral cedar]

its a composite photo

its not a single shot

its achievable with phone

[spice gale]

ik that

but how did you achieve the colors

and those stars

[coral cedar]

stacking method

[coral cedar]

separate layer

[sullen parrot]

Too much ISO and you'll find your images whitewashed beyond recognition

[formal notch]

i couldnt find an explanation to literally why my images looked so bad. now ik

[sullen parrot]

I don't know how people manage to increase their ISO's to 800 or something

Even 400 ISO is too much for me lmao

[sullen parrot]

The ISO's not the only thing that matters.

[formal notch]

exposure too right?

the higher the better

[floral token]

It's not higher the better
It should not have trialing and it shouldn't be very low

Like I used to have safe spot in 10 seconds

Even though my phone allowed 32, I didn't used it cause of trailing.
Also iso is very simple, if you have light dome or you live in higher bortle scale use low iso like 400 or 800(I prefer 800) and if you live in like bortle 5 under, use 1600 and see if the photos aren't washed out

[formal notch]

yea

[dusty swift]

What did you use to edit it

[timid wedge]

ALONSO IS THAT YOU?!?!?!

https://tenor.com/view/f1-fernando-alonso-twitter-alonso-formula-one-gif-15288827103445224492

[grim raft]

yes

[timid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/fernando-alonso-f1-fernando-alonso-celebration-fernando-alonso-celebration-after-winning-gp-fernando-alonso-renault-gif-7462200571341719616

[grim raft]

Those were the time of my life

Renault was amazing

[timid wedge]

sure was

[uncut cipher]

On a random clear night

I live in bortle 8 sky btw

[spice gale]

high bortle

what phone?

[uncut cipher]

Oppo Reno 10 pro

[spice gale]

ok nice

[coral cedar]

Photoshop

Mobile apps like snapseed/pixelab could be possible

[robust fog]

Photomate r3!

[coral cedar]

That could work also

[somber lantern]

Personal favorite is lightroom

Amazing tools (and denoise)

Also I took this tonight

[sullen parrot]

racecar

[somber lantern]

Rookie of the year

[spice gale]

looks nice!

[spice gale]

after @short meadow and @quick ibex help my orion nebula is finished

[dusk crow]

Moon 44% with my 114/500 telescope and phone

[undone dagger]

Dang what did u use for this image

[spice gale]

thanks😅 . If I'm not wrong 15 frames 4s each with a dobson heritage 150mm and the samsung a52s camera. Also shot them on deepskycamera to get raw frames

[undone dagger]

Niceeee

[spice gale]

thanks

would like to upgrade the setup in the next years but this scope served me well for the past 2 years

[undone dagger]

Yw (:

[undone dagger]

Your next upgrade would be to get a dslr or an astro cam ngl

[spice gale]

astro cam

but with this mount yk

and i got a flextube too

[timid wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/f1lore-gif-24702240

[balmy ravine]

try doing a high res mosaic

[coral cedar]

Todays moon

Oppo reno 3 with telescope

[spice gale]

howw

[coral cedar]

Alright ive got the tutorial

I can share if you want

[spice gale]

ofc

[coral cedar]

i use phone with telescope, its achievable also with high focal length lens, camera and steady tripod, 1st you wanna take a moon pic as many as you can(settings are, 1/1000, with iso 200, and f 5.6) you can settings your ss, iso and aperture as you want, i recommend 100+, second you wanna take the over exposure 1 pic should be enough. Next step, you wanna stack those moon pic, i usually use PIPP, it usually align all of your moon images, export is as a TIFF(note, make sure to uncheck the monochrome setting), and click process, 2nd you wanna open autostakkert, this app stacks all of your TIFF image to make 1 image, you wanna analyse first, then look at the graph, if it does look good i usually stack like 80 percent of them, and you should get the Final Tiff image, and you wanna take the TIFF Files into Registax 6, what it does? its sharpening the moon image, take it slowly, dont overdo it, it will become oversharpening, Save it as a Tiff Files with different name. Open Photoshop, take the unsharp TIFF Files, and make it into smart object, next go to Camera Raw Filter, Find Calibration Menu, set all of the saturation to 100, oh yes before that, i recommend to color correct the moon first, then you wanna go to Vibrance and Saturation set them to 50, click done, duplicate the layer, Razterize the layer(Right click the layer, and you should have found the Razterize option, repeat again, set the vibrance and saturation(Dont overdo it, use feeling), and repeat for 1 more time, after that take the Sharpened moon image and set the blending mode into luminosity(color correct first, contrast, etc), and voila your almost done, to make the glow part, you wanna take the overexposure image and set it below the mineral moon layer, before to do that.

mask the moon image for separate the background, and set the over exposure moon image below the mineral moon layer, and adjust to your liking, and i add stars for final touch, and voila your done

[spice gale]

isnt masking for the premium version?

[coral cedar]

You can use background remover in website

Its free

[spice gale]

oh ok

thanks for the tutorioal

ill have to wait for clear nights now

[coral cedar]

Yeah you can ask me if u feels confused

[spice gale]

ok i will

thanks again

[coral cedar]

No problem cheers

[iron bear]

The new MGC tool works with phone images too. This one is a single sub that i made from B9 with a lot of light pollution and stray light in eyepiece

Some gradients from the light reflecting off the eyepiece are still present, but it worked well in the background. I took the photo with stray light on purpose to test this new tool

The only problem is that it lightens the edges of the eyepiece, thinking it's a gradient. But this can be easily corrected later

[coral cedar]

Looks great!

[grizzled lance]

Damnnn

[spice gale]

how on earth is this a single sub

[iron bear]

Bortle 9 single sub

[spice gale]

exp time?

[spice gale]

looks incredible

same rig as usual?

[iron bear]

The phone was all crooked in relation to the eyepiece. My tridaptor hadn't arrived yet, so I used the old broken adapter

[iron bear]

55s iso 50

[spice gale]

oh man

[spice gale]

oh wow never knew phones can achieve 1min exp

i love how sharp the stars are, perfect focus indeed

[iron bear]

The newer ones can do 600s

[spice gale]

which ones

google pixel 9?

[iron bear]

s25 ultra for example

[spice gale]

no way

also I see that the mounts work well, no star traip in 1 minute sub

[iron bear]

I wish mine could do 180s. But unfortunately, 55s is the limit. The Mi12 is already getting old

[iron bear]

I have autoguiding...

[spice gale]

oh mb

[spice gale]

true, its like 2 years old

still does its job

[iron bear]

Trifid

Just 5x55s iso 400

but in b4

[sullen parrot]

whaaaattt

isn't that dangerous?

and super risky?

[timid wedge]

kinda, it used extremely dangerous, in the 1960s f1 cars were like 450kg V12 300kph death machines with 0 safety what so ever but sincee like 2010 onwards the cars are extremely safer cuz more downforce and extreme safety reprocutions that make the cars WAYYY safer than they used to

https://tenor.com/view/grosjean-bahrain-f1-formula1-crash-gif-19372365

its so safe that when roman grosjean crashed into a barrier spllitting his har into 2 and catching on fire he escaped with only some minor murns on his hands

sry guys for posting unrelated content

[balmy ravine]

Why are parts of the nebula darker than the rest of the sky?

[balmy ravine]

Tracked so long exposure probably

[iron bear]

Well, I don’t know the exact term they use for this type of artifact in English, but it’s basically when background removal destroys part of the information in the background of the nebula.

[formal notch]

114/900 scope and small integration

lil bit of running man visible, will shoot running man next time

or should i do orion's arch

[iron bear]

Trifid (M20)
Nothing to process these rainy days, so I decided to process some test frames I took last year. Only 5 minutes and 30 seconds of total integration.

🔭 Toya 114/900, 18mm UFF eyepiece + EQ3 with OnStep. No filters
📷 Xiaomi 12 (IMX766). 6x55s ISO 400
📍Munhoz-Brazil, Bortle 4

[simple crow]

bro how

[spice gale]

1 min subs

[zealous edge]

It's not just the one minute sub exposures, it's mostly the phone he uses. The Xiaomi 12 phone can be described as a DSLR camera sensor that can call people and play games, the camera on that thing is absolutely nuts.

That, combined with a good tracking mount, great telescope optics, and fantastic processing skills, is how he pulls this mind blowing stuff off

[spice gale]

fair

[prisma raft]

i need to get myself a xiaomi 12

[spice gale]

i tried to search it

its not available everywhere

[prisma raft]

place near me sells them for 350

350 aud

[somber lantern]

The redmi 12 has a 50mp camera with binning right

[prisma raft]

awh man its android 12

oh no nvm xiaomi 12 has android 14 support

would the xiaomi 13 have similar capabilities?

[robust fog]

Xiaomi 13 Ultra would be insane

With root and DCG

[dusk crow]

This is so fake 😅

[modest fern]

3 second exposure through my telescope and it turned out much better than expected actually 😂

[grizzled lance]

Looks very nice

[iron bear]

This is a Redmi Note 12. Mine is the Xiaomi 12

this one

[floral token]

yo lucas i had some doubts around mounts

what mount you use? and how does one step thing work?

[dreamy pebble]

The moon:

[stable sundial]

it haunts me

[dapper vault]

Hi

@last iris can I take like that photo through a oneplus 10 pro

[last iris]

idk
anything with the same or better camera quality as an iphone twelve should get it

gl 👍

[dapper vault]

Hmm

@last iris hey tell me which is better

For apple I phone 12

For Oneplus 10 Pro

@grizzled lance

Help me

Tell me which one is better

[grizzled lance]

Go for oneplus

Larger sensor size I checked online

But you could get better what's your budget?

[dapper vault]

I have that oneplus 10 pro already

I purchased it around 2 years ago

[dapper vault]

Give me tips to photograph sky through my phone

[formal notch]

Can bearly see flame ( will grt more data later)

[grizzled lance]

Max focus medium Iso and high exposure time but it depends where or what your capturing

Guys look at this image chat gpt enhanced

[formal notch]

Noway i didnt know chatgpt could do it

[dapper vault]

I want to capture the sky and here at my place the lp is at bortle 5

[grizzled lance]

Mine Is B5 aswell

[dapper vault]

It's so common

[formal notch]

Hmmm

[grizzled lance]

Atleast not b6 or 7lmao

[dapper vault]

I have a 70/700 telescope too

[dapper vault]

Hehe

[formal notch]

hows it for phone (abt 5 mins int)

i actually a bit out of focus but star sharpening and then denoiseing helped stars look a bit better