#Phone Astrophotography
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Yeahh ofc no
I don't even care about phone much other than raw format ngl
Id rather buy a full setup of astrophotography
It's waiting of money if you already have a phone and want another pricey phone just for ap that's stupid
Just get a dSLR setup at that point
Or a astrocam for telescope
im getting a canon camera anyway
👍
If you want to force A series to have an expert raw fiture, root the phone, but the risk is way too much
it doesnt run anyway
ive tried
it'll open and then close right away
how damn hard is it for samsung to just make it so we can take photos in raw
it is not that hard
i mean like it has pro mode, and yet lacks raw
Bortle 3, yeah I could get better resulty but for some reason there a is purple line on the right when I use simple raw
Well lets see it. Jan 23 one ui 7 releasing with new camera updates. My expectations are high.
It doesn't have camera2api or smth like that, right? Thats why we cant shoot in raw. Lets go to strike outside the samsung headquarters!
yeah but DSC does the job
doesnt let a55 phones take raw
i would complain abt it that much cause at least its giving us option to
aww man
have u tried openlivestacked
openlivestacker
or
baconcamera
for my old phone, baconcamera workes
baconcamera isnt available on my phone
At least u have good exposure times
Not quite, way too slow
I felt that too
For me its a real pain
1/3 sec max exppsure
It takes 1 sec to save it
F
Indeed, try oneplus 6t with it, it takes 1 minute to do a 20 sec exposure
Aww man
30 sec here 
heh
My 10yr old phone does better tha DSC
It loterally has 16 sec exposure setting in its camera app
Same
I like the new ui but its way too slow
Yeah
The old one its kinda good
My oppo reno does like 90 second exposure max
Nice
Insane foreground detail probably
No, its kinda useless...., i need tracker on it to use the 90 second exposure
I said foreground not sky
Thanks 🤠
other than the insane cometing
Right now I am at the terrace waiting for clouds to go?
?
get a coma corrector for ur binos /j
the stars become extremely cometed at the edges
Binoculars 😖
attach a full frame astrocam to it
And it works great
Probably hot pixel which can be fixed with bias and dark frames
What site is that
Sum exposure photos I took
How much was it chat..
on sec
Instead of getting a phone with better camera just get a good ASI ZWO sensor - it would be way-way better and nicer to use.
not many people have thousands of dollars lying around
Thouthands of dollars are for cooled camera you don't really need. You can get pretty good sensor for around $300...
You anyway need quite a lot for both tracking mount and desent scope - so it is only part of it.
I still get way better results with ASI224MC than with smartphone camera.
Especially on used market - I got 224MC for less than $100 used. And 178MM for around $130 on a deal.
300 to your currency, as an australian is usually double the price man
I talked USD as international currency 🙂
i dont even own more than 200
Than it is a different story... Anyway I wouldn't buy a phone for a camera
fyi, i already own the phone and have for several months now
I mean replacing phone with one with a better camera 🙂
already doing that
I took this picture of Jupiter last night with my phone and telescope. I think it turned out really well.👍😀
Red spot visible
yeah
Mine with a 60mm
Can someone tell me which one to use 🙏
Xiaomi
Alr thanks
np
Xiaomi cuz raw
yea
And bigger sensor
It isnt, there is a whole ahh line on the right
Like £10 for a 40mm and 10mm
Both celestron one omni and one is different
Sens screenshot
Bigger sensor? How does that make a difference? Other than fov
Fake ass celestron💀
Yk how like dslr or cameras for astrophotography has big sensors
Its to capture more detail and light
So bigger it is the better
Its the aperture size that determines the amount of light reaching the sensor
Bigger the sensor more detail and light it can get from what I know
Aperture aswell
But you can change that with settings
Sensor size is within what you are capturing
Nah
I got a real 2x omni barlow and the quality is the same
That's noise? Must be how your phone displays the image, try opening it in dss
He would have to adjust the mount you know. And the telephoto sensor is really small in samsung phones
If you leave the software issue
There is a hardware bottle neck
Get a mi 11 ultra in 2nd hand market man. 1/1.12inch main sensor. And you get sd888 with really good amoled display. Would go around for 300usd for 12/256gb variant
Send the link to it
Send link
Alr
I just found this on AliExpress: £10.89 | Celestron omni 4mm 6mm 9mm 12mm 15mm 32mm 40mm and 2x eyepiece and Barlow Lens Fully Multi-Coated Metal Astronomy Telescope
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EH8BKJe
I just found this on AliExpress: £15.96 | Celestron 62 degree aspherical high-definition eyepiece 4/10/23mm Fully Coated for 1.25" Astronomy Telescope
https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ez584qG
What do you guys use as your setup?
It isnt only on the phone
Damn from aliexpress?
I was thinking to get 40mm celestron eyepiece
I might buy it then if I save uo money
And u get a free filter
I seen other liek yt buying from aliexpress and save like 300
£300
Yh il bro ita crayz
Yeah I'll think about buying from aliexpress
Can I just stick my phone on a tripod and call it a day
Strange
Is this it?
Lmao when I have the money
Use this link
❤️
Damn 30 5 star reviews
Has to be awesome
Ordering it right away
Can you show me results tho? Before I get scammed
Depends.
Bro is ready
Tbh just buy a telescope at that price
ofc for 15 bucks? Who isn't
Send a link btw lemme check
Alr
I refund it
Ermm
For start its awesome, It is the same price as that
I don't speak turkish
Wait for you to earn yourself or save.
Till then focus one learning things and you have phone ap option right now.
orion nebula
Thats hungarian
Oh sorry
It's still a good telescope tho
I feel like if you don't want to save then orser it
Great! Much better than my image of Orions belt
Damn.
Thats not even a 100th of the price.
I'd say just save up
😦
Dang I didn’t know the Orion Nebula was THAT visible, I thought it was just a dot without zoom or anything
Saw the moonrise over Madrid on my flight
No with integration time, we can see it.
@dusty swift This was my last phone ap session.
What you using for magnification
It's default zoom (1x)
I have cropped so it looks like zoomed in
oh
Let me share tips which I have send to mugestu
It might help you if you do phone ap
Sick I wanna try that out, I’m trying to get my parents to go see the planetary alignment at our local dark place next Saturday
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try to keep Orion way above your horizon , cause the gradients will kill your dreams 100%
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do not try to take pics if there are clouds in your shots(even is there are partially) if there are no clear skies then you can take it.
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make sure to have the best focus
To do that, first of all, target a bright star and zoom it in(10x or 5x) and try to adjust your focus, do that when you find satisfactory results(it won't be perfect but you would know the difference for sure)
If the focus is bad then your photos will look bad even if you get more integration. -
have a STURDY tripod (most important, trust me) and this is a equipment that you are going to use it even after your phone ap time.
Please, make sure to get a sturdy tripod (used are goated for tripod NGL)
A recommendation could be used bogen 3001 (idk if this is in Europe or not but
something like that, STURDY) -
make sure to have Orion nebula near center as it was have least star trialling issues and as well as gradient.
-
and talking about star trailing, please don't use more than 20 seconds, I did 10 second and 3 seconds timer between all shots(very important as it will give way better focus in every image)
Maybe go for like 15 seconds but if you see trails use around 10 seconds -
use raw format and a good app, for android use procamx or deep sky camera(people's favourite but I didn't used it)
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try to take as many integration time as you can. I had 41 min 40 second.
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don't keep your expectations too high (very important). just enjoy that you have captured amazing things on just phone.
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check focus every 5-10 min or so and also you have to reframe Orion as our earth is moving, do it like 3-5 min.
This are all tips that I have learned, I might have miss some of tips but this are once which will help you a lot.
Also don't forgot to keep the tripod low cause if it's high the wind will cause many issues such as out of focus images, star trialling and in worst case continue->
Scenario you will lose all of your shots.
Just copy and paste this somewhere
I’ll copy it into my notes
one thing that worries me is my tripod, which has a broken leg but can still stand. It’s not super bad but it can get a little wobbly when you touch your phone while your phone is hooked up to it
Last time I captured the milky way I didn’t get a good picture of the core or anything so I wanna try and do that next time
And then maybe get Orion
Make some DIY changes in your tripod
Trust me tripod are number 1 priority for phone ap
Did you edit the photos on computer btw, cuz I edit on lr mobile
Or did you not edit them at all
Rn we have some toothpick lookin thing to hold the broken leg together, idk what else we could do about it
It's processed in laptop.
The tripod is a cheap one
Wait I remember I have another tripod but it’s low to the ground
Alr, would lr mobile be a good app to edit something like that
Buy a good tripod. It would be staying with you long time
I don't really know much about phone editing
Go to your near library or something like that they will have pc over there
I think it’s pretty bad unless you get premium, which gives you an option to edit the sky and not the foreground stuff
For example I got this in November and it’s edited in lr mobile, I may have over edited it a lil but I was trying to get the Milky Way as best as I can. I feel like it could be better if I had the premium option
It's damn good 🥹
Try to keep iso low if there is light dome
Idk if I can adjust iso in the camera app unless that’s what the sun thing is, but I have an app called astroshader which has iso options
Iso is necessary to set
Keep it 1600 if there is not much light pollution from that area or lower bortle scale , if there's light dome keep it 800
I think I’ll use astroshader for pics like Orion and milky way just cuz you can adjust a lot and it can take multiple pictures and stack them
But it’s not computer app type processing
Taking pics is different thing and post processing is different thing.
Take pic from astroshader and post processing in different app/software
Let’s hope I can be able to go see the alignment and milky way from the local dark place, and perhaps the core of the Milky Way could not be where that light dome is
Best of luck Buddy🥹
Zodiacal lights maybe
Search that up
Get it from happymod
It unlocks premium settings for free
Just a trial on galaxy with 7x50 bino and phone. setting used: 7min integration | 1600 iso | 4 second each | No dbf frames. Problems i got/created: didnt had good allignment cause of cold, didnt focused properly(post processing save my as* but with downsides as well), m51 was not in center, 20$ tripod(worst issue out of all). Anyway, i got a used bogen 3001 tripod, so a nice upgrade imo. 
Idk why are you so focused on tripods. I got one from temu for 10 bucks and it was awesome, didn't move it just used autoclicker. Tripod isn't a really important thing. I mean it is good to have a quality one, but it's most definitely not the most important one in phone ap
Also nice pic
Never got the results lol
For me probably cause, when you do bino and phone ap you will understand the importance of good tripod and it was not expensive. It was 62$(worth it)
Cause the 20$ one was trembling in wind
Wym?
I asked for results with the 15 bucks barlow
Can you show me some pwease
I did that Orion constellation with 20$ and it was fine but with bino nah ..
Oh i aint got no photos
Tbh at that price just save up for a 100 bucks telescope
Lol no
Can you make some when you have time, clear skies?
Why\
Yeah ill try remember
Not worth it
Its good tho just buy it
Why?
Wide-field of Flame and Horsehead.
iPhone13: 3s, x600, ISO 14,000 on AstroShader.
Shot with a 50mm spotting scope on an AZGTi, not the best kit but cheap and easy to setup
NGL at this setup, it's great
Never got an answer, aight
Cheap telescope not worth it
I got one and it is insanely worth it for short-medium term
It is but it's the same thing with binos lol
My setup is under 150$
No sorry 110$
It is just more difficult
I love it ! Under 120 bucks I can do many things
Orion nebula 114/500 and phone 2sx300 in b6
Nice oneee
But i think it could go more
Thank you! I will do next time more exposure time
I got the Tridaptor. The one I use broke and I was unable to take a photo for a few days. Apparently it's better than the celestron one
every frame from a timelapse i took on a flight: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Z-cvDYs37XdhEjf0M63oDWbJNniTHZbP?usp=sharing
how..?
oh its stacked
the definition of "your either hate it or love it"
Tbh I still wouldn't buy it. I bet the 1 star reviews are the more experienced ones
Came in the exact same box as a real one and same quality
i already have :3
Be my guest whilst im getting them for £10 or less
Damn
ive seen cheap eyepeices and they are worse
wayy worse
thats because its used
houh
It came in actual box everything and the eyepiece is dense
I can show a picture I can take rn
yea, doesn't mean its not used tho 😭
Mb I don't have the box
they could have taken good care of it
Its from a actual seller
£90 actually
And they got like much of it
ive spent more
Good gor u
This is the one I got it's super good
But sometimes cheaper ones not always going to give good results so you have to look out
also you wont know the difference until you use an expensive eyepiece btw
i have this 26mm that i got for £22 but its solid metal
Looks good quality
it is
The coating looks sick
I seen aliexpress celestron eyepiece they look legit
Other astronomy YouTubers buy from aliexpress aswell
Eq3-2?
why dont you get a dslr or astrocam
bc you can get a dslr for like £300
S23ultra is my astro cam
Ik but liek I already had my phone
Its my dad's
an astrocam or dslr would get you so much better images
S23 is too good bro I got insane images
proof?
All single frame I haven't learn how to stack
And I don't think i aligned the eyepiece to camera properly
B5-6
im glad I didn't start with phone ap 😭
Woah
This stacked?
yea
Y'all did a great job 👽👀
your images wont look as good still
I'll prove you wrong 😈
Stacking is easy my dude
I'll eventually learn I'm just waiting for good weather
Use your old data to learn stacking
Learn editing when there are clouds
I need more
Use free data online to learn
Alright I will 100%
Tbh phone astrophotography is actually goated
Phone astro
With binoculars/scope too
Goated for beginners
well that explains why I think it’s good 🙃
Use stacking 🗣️
How to stack
Siril or dss in laptop
Search in YouTube videos
I think there are mobile stacking too
Try them
What diameter?
Nope.
I mean it's good than nothing
150mm
Not the best tracking wide field was captured by S23U same with picture I captured w scope
No wonder, 6.25x more light than mine
Depends what your imaging
Nope unless the resolution for no zoom is limited
For like milkyway and in general taking pictures of night sky 1x or ultra wide
If using scope then just 1x for deep sky objects
If planets using scope you can use zoom but it might degrade the image
Mine was like 40?
50*
Water dmg is the easiest way
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Equipment -
114/900 scope (untracked)
Samsung A04e (Samsung A04f) -
Processing -
OpenLiveStacker for aqusition and stacking
Siril for colour correction,BGE,streching
Gimp for final touchups
Well it runs Roblox on 15 fps💀
not bad!
thx
I checked your bio, and saw that you do graffiti, would you mind sharing some of your works? It's kinda entertaining
ofc😅
Well lemme see lol
school hater and graffti in same line. 💀
they aint tho
"Graffiti in the school I hate" 
Rigel?
That's defo rigel
Saturn Almost disappearing behind the sun. The rings are get to flat to
Hey guys! Anyone here especially experienced with phone astrophotography? I’m gonna be presenting at the local library near the university about phone astrophotography in April and i’d love to hear what you guys have tips/tricks-wise.
It’s a little out of my range of expertise since I do predominantly use an astro camera, so it’d be great to hear something from someone who uses a phone typically. I’m also probably gonna be working on doing some phone astro with our 8” dob soon just to build up some more experience myself.
Thanks!
Quality is poor mostly, it is easy to take it everywhere, its easy to mount on a telescope, tripod are really good for phones, and some phones use ai to make pics look better
Also stacking sucks.
Well atleast if you got a lot of data, like 5h then it sucks
30m-2h is aight
Its pretty late at night so thats what comes to my mind rn. Gl man!
Getting the eyepiece square on the phone mount and aligned is essential
Use AstroShader or a good app
And if you are doing planetary make sure the shutter speed and focus and iso are all good
Here is mars I got yesterday with my 12” dob
I thought it was good since all my gear was dewed over and shot it through thin clouds
And these shots of Jupiter
From a few months ago before that
I’ll take a look at AstroShader. Thanks!
The dude who made AstroShader is in here, he can prob give you some good info about it
i cant say i am experienced a lot but i have some tricks using phone ap as i have done with phone and as well as bino
ask lucas @iron bear
A very quick image I found and forgot to upload, taken in September I think, no darks and 8 lights (I think, it's a really old image 😭)
Star trails from my phone earlier this night
taken thru Samsung A04e stacked 177 frames of 1/3sec each (yes 1/3 sec. Thats my phone' max exposure)
What are those doted lines?
59 seconds just for that, yikes
i literally didnt do any work
i was sitting inside watching TV and i compleately forgot abt my phone capturing outside
if i handnt set the DSC limit to 200 frmes, i could have gotten a lot more
Single 4 second exposure from my phone
nice do u live in b7?
9 but the image was taken in 7
I see
Similar
I live in b9 and took this image in it
Better version
Orion 1s-50X
Oh my
This was also bortle 3… with terrible spot I had to take an image, and it was slowly fogging up.
1x10s
Clouds ruined this photo
Looks sick tho
looks like something from ci-fi
Airplanes
How to take long exposurers without a tracking Mount?
Buy a tracking mount
Well I am using a phone for astrophotography...
Should I take 1 shot for 32 sec exposure or 3 shots of 12 second exposure then stacked
Coz without a tracking Mount I can't stack images otherwise it will become just a Star trail picture
And also .... Should I use Ultrawide Camera for astrophotography or Telephoto camera of my phone
This pic was taken by me in urban area ..... Hoping I will be able to get more better pic when I will be in a dark place
M31
Its not that bad u know
Try taking multiple images in raw format and stack it
Multiple for 1s
I did that
And if you stack you will get some thing like this
dont zoom in and take as many as photo you can, and if the stars are not round, decrease your expsoure little by little untill you get good stars.
I can do that but can't counter earth's spin without a mount
Well should I click images with Telephoto or Ultra Wide
?
telephoto i guess
let me share you the tips i already wrote for someone
Ok and this pic wasn't zoomed a Lil bit even.... I just croped it to highlight the Andromeda
Yes please I am new to astrophotography
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try to keep Orion way above your horizon , cause the gradients will kill your dreams 100%
-
do not try to take pics if there are clouds in your shots(even is there are partially) if there are no clear skies then you can take it.
-
make sure to have the best focus
To do that, first of all, target a bright star and zoom it in(10x or 5x) and try to adjust your focus, do that when you find satisfactory results(it won't be perfect but you would know the difference for sure)
If the focus is bad then your photos will look bad even if you get more integration. -
have a STURDY tripod (most important, trust me) and this is a equipment that you are going to use it even after your phone ap time.
Please, make sure to get a sturdy tripod (used are goated for tripod NGL)
A recommendation could be used bogen 3001 (idk if this is in Europe or not but
something like that, STURDY) -
make sure to have Orion nebula near center as it was have least star trialling issues and as well as gradient.
-
and talking about star trailing, please don't use more than 20 seconds, I did 10 second and 3 seconds timer between all shots(very important as it will give way better focus in every image)
Maybe go for like 15 seconds but if you see trails use around 10 seconds -
use raw format and a good app, for android use procamx or deep sky camera(people's favourite but I didn't used it)
-
try to take as many integration time as you can. I had 41 min 40 second.
-
don't keep your expectations too high (very important). just enjoy that you have captured amazing things on just phone.
-
check focus every 5-10 min or so and also you have to reframe Orion as our earth is moving, do it like 3-5 min.
This are all tips that I have learned, I might have miss some of tips but this are once which will help you a lot.
Also don't forgot to keep the tripod low cause if it's high the wind will cause many issues such as out of focus images, star trialling
enjoy
try to take as many integration time as you can
proceeds to get 4mins intergration
Btw why is raw preferred over jpeg
?
raw has all the data while jpeg doesnt. jpeg also does some color correction
Oh I got it
scientists never used compressed data which is why everything is raw
jpeg helps for normal day shooting and raw help us to get data without any interferrence
So I am using a phone in my city for astrophotography
Shutter 12 sec
Iso 200
Focus infinite
Is this good
?
City area*
check the bortle scale
go to lightpollutionmap and check the bortle scale
use iso 800
iso200 is too low
Here the integration time means that Total exposure in 1 image * number of image stacked
Right ?
Then the main prob is stat trails coz I don't have a mount
thats why we use low exposure
phone ap doesnt need mount
dont use 32 second, use 10-20 sec and you gotta try out many things
For sure iso 800 can give the best possible results in my area
?
you gotta try it out
if its too washed then go for lower one
its very light polluted area over there
So if I click images of 12 seconds ..... How many should I click to avoid star trails and get the best details possible
Yeah that's the main prob
After March I will go somewhere dark area
bruv
For astrophotography
Like I was talking about the integration time
if you take 32 sec you will have star trials, if you use 10 sec you will have round star
int time just decrease noise and gather more data
Ok got that✌️
So 12 seconds is best for my area ?
it depends on object position
also your camera sensor
you gotta try it out
Ok sir
if you see star trailing reduce if not then try to increase
After 12 there is just 16 then 32
best of luck
i wont suggest 32
Thank bro
go for 12 or 16
Ok
also learn from youtube
Yeah I am currently
learn stacking also
Just started this thing a week ago
best of luck
i dont know about mobile stacking sorry
Ya I came to know about that
Btw
Suppose I clicked 1000 images of 12 second exposure, and then I stacked with dss , so will I get the unwanted star trails as I won't be using a tracker . (I know that stacking mostly reduces the Noise
if all the frames have no trialing then you wont have any problems
make sure to center your target as our earth is moving
its called manual dither i think
Ok
I suppose in 12 seconds there shouldn't be any
ill do it
most some softwares offer rotation with stacking
send me the data and ill try to stack it for u
Ok but currently there is daytime here when I will click I will send that
How many pics ?
astrosurface, siril deepskystacker
if u are untrakced try 10mins worth of data
Dss also can rotate pics ?
For better stacking
10min. 7x50 and phone setup
yeah i am pretty sure
Ok
NICE
Bro that's from mobile?
u are doing better than some cams
binoculars
Ok
thankssss
phone and bino
also it looks like there is star trailing. Try taking a bit more lower exposure
like 16sec or less
@silent pumice try getting a decent scope and do phone ap with that for now take wide field pics and stack them
Take diff exposure pics zoom in each one of them when stars looks like dots
Yeah I am going to take for 12 seconds tonight
So I should prioritize Wide angle lens over a telephoto
??
You cna do both
But for telephoto
You have to reduce exposure time cuz star trail
So 12 seconds should be good right ?
Wide field you cna increase exposure without too much star trail
And how much data should I collect?
Take many pics different seconds right
And zoom in each one of then
Start with 12
Ok
Got that✌️
Do that until you see no star trails even when zoom in
And then
Get like 60 pictures
Somehwere around 10min worth
And what about Earth's spin
Can dss really counter it
By software
You cna manually move phone
Dss will do it automatically
Example yeah every 5 minute
Or 2 minute
Move your phone like tiny
But don't know how much degree every minute
Ohk
So dss can really counter my this earth's spin prob
Ofc as I locate the stars and other stuffs
Ok thanks a lot
👍 yeah
What phone do you have?
Bro that's Moto Edge 50 pro
Decent for ap
Yaa kind of
Can't really upgrade so much coz I am currently 17yo
I use my dad phone for ap but I have honor 90 similar to yours
Oh
Well If I give you the jepg of my Andromeda , can you edit it so maybe it can go a little much better?
I'll try
Ok I will dm you that
I didn't knew that that time so I choose jpeg
Next time I am going for raw
Re-edit of my orion image
Kinda cheated by putting some lightroom masks over Orion Nebula but I don't care it worked. Also did it for the flame nebula, it's definitely there but doesn't look great
Nice
Guyss
How do you all edit your stacked raw images
I made one of 4 minutes exposure and it's 1 gb now
And very hard to edit too
I go the ghetto route
Lightroom mobile or Photo Mate R3
Rate my pic 🙏
I love how the Pleiades just barely made it in frame, perfectly edge-on with the bottom right corner lol
Total integration time ?
And is that tiff file or jpeg ?
Urban Area🥲
Tiff
onion nebula
I think it was 4000x3900
Looks promising, need more int
way batter...
Like pls tell me some of its advantages over our normal camera
Your phone will process your image and may or may not be saving them in raw which you need
The original camera app usually processes up to the RAW file, including noise reduction. Noise reduction before stacking essentially destroys the details that would emerge through stacking
Exos 2 at left and Eq3 at right
It's a single sub.
The sharpness of my photos will improve a lot now with the Exos.
I just need to spend a few days in b4. B9 sucks
Jokes on you as a fellow B3 astrophotographer
Bro, the pictures I posted last year, I did in just two clear nights in a Bortle 3. Two nights 
I live in b9.
How do you correct for vingnetting for telescopes/ binoculars? When i used flats, it just made the noise really bright and dss detected thousands of stars
Yeah, it is insane
Quite exciting
Yk whats even more exciting? Only on the 8th-10th of februar, will I have clear skies
Here, clear nights usually start at the end of February. There are clear nights during the summer, but it rains a lot—really a lot.
Yesterday afternoon, it hailed, and several parts of the city flooded. The subway literally turned into a river.
I can’t wait for summer to be over 
You're australian or brazilian?
he's clearly Antarctican
nah he clearly jupiterian
Obviously
Nah, thats tom
Btw, Lucas do you track your images? Also are doing phone AP?
Yes he tracks but he did some untracked ap with phone and tripod for MW galaxy
Is he doing phone every time?
Brazilian
Yep... Both
Insane, teach me master. Xiaomi 12?
Yep, the Mi12. I don’t do much magic.
The main thing is to align the phone well with the eyepiece. Once it’s well aligned, there’s not much distortion or vignetting. The rest is processed just like I would process data from astro cameras
Eyepiece? I thought you only did widefield
I do both. Widefield and DSO with the phone on the telescope. Widefield is even easier
Have you ever thought of using a smart telescope?
They have some limitations that I struggle with. I prefer a more traditional setup despite the cellphone
Yeah, they're awesome. I always wondered how can someone make such a good picture with just a phone
My photos are cooked
Imma try and image the pleiades maybe I can get something idk
i wish i would have a tracking mount
not always true
coma-corrector, blurx or took mosaic with phone and fixed the vignette or did the funny and added a vignette to a regular image 
Honestly, it’s not hard these days. I managed to take all these photos in just two nights. just needed to get the right gear, like a good eyepiece and a motorized equatorial mount. First, I learned how to process data from astro cameras, and then I used those skills to apply advanced processing techniques to data from my phone. I’ve got a lot of friends here in Brazil with expensive setups, and whenever we capture new photos, we hop on a Discord call to process the data together. By this way, we share techniques, and I get to test tools on phone data.
Since 2020, I’ve been doing this. I essentially learned to process during the during COVID lockdown. We would stay on Discord calls all day, working with data from Telescope Live to process and reprocess again again again... 
Regarding coma, it depends on the eyepiece, the adapter, and how well the phone is aligned with the eyepiece. To align the phone, I use a bright star out of focus. This way, I can center the reflection of my telescope's secondary mirror in the out of focus image. This is the best way to adjust the phone to the eyepiece. Since I’m currently using an 18mm Ultraflatfield, there’s very little distortion.
Schlieren with old telescope mirror
decided to finally get a video of Jupiter through my StarBlast, trust me the view with just my eye through the eyepiece looks so much better. Like 20x better, the StarBlast is surprisingly good on Jupiter
Sculptor Galaxy!
guys dont forget that this guy also cools his phone like an astrocam, hes an insane man in astro
how do you take such fire images with a phone doing widefield
How this is so clear? What phone?
its not about the phone, its about the telescope, telescope equipment and how you process the data
As Lucas mentioned I think the flatfield eyepiece makes the difference here.
There’s a post on CN where somebody me compares Plossls to some flat field (can’t remember the exact brand) and the difference in barrel distortion and coma is amazing
This eyepiece are flatfield
oh so flatfield for phone ap and normal eyepieces for visual
tempted to buy one but idk which one
Probably go for a 30mm, plossl
Tbh haven't used a flatfield but plossl is proving pretty good
It’s not a cheap eyepiece, but it’s worth the price.
Sculptor
What is the focal length of you scope?
Svbony 18mm UFF X Svbony 20mm 68°
I need to get one for deep sky, but even from the rooftop, you can already see the difference.
And this 20mm 68-degree eyepiece is already pretty decent.
900mm
You also have a Goto?
Yep!
I don’t have a Goto my scope is 114/500. I get star trails with 2sek with my 40mm eyepiece
I only can do 1sek
I have a large field of view because I have only 12,5x
If you're using an equatorial mount but without GoTo, build a DIY OnStep... I only spent 100 US dollars to build mine. It's very easy to make.
Is this motorise or Goto?
both
I could buy a motor but is also to loud
Is none stop I hear
But maybe I could do with a good polar align 30sek
The one I built, you can't even hear that the mount is working. It's extremely silent
What mount is that?
Exos 2
It's the manual version. I bought it and motorized it with OnStep since OnStep is much better than the mount's native motorized version
What phone you use?
Xiaomi 12/mi12
I use a Iphoen 13
Small sensor
But I can use AstroShader wich help me alot taking images
It's from the same generation as mine mi12...
The sensor is slightly smaller than the IMX 766 used in my Mi12
Iphone 13 1/1.9 sensor size
Mi12 1/1.52 sensor size
About 25% smaller
It's the same size as the IMX 586 from my old Mi9T. I used to take great photos with it, so the sensor size isn't very limiting
Yeah the news phones camera are bigger
Haha, wow yes - this is a great example.
Thanks for sharing
14U packs 1 inch sensor
onstep is the goat
I’m not sure if it’s noticeable in the screenshot, but the sharpness of the images now with the Exos 2 has improved a lot compared to the EQ3
when jupiter receives twin polar jets update
nice
lmao
got a 25mm one, a 6 mm one and a 2.5x barlow
so i really need a mid power eyepiece
I thought it was the sun
Same lmao
Why do I get this error bru
I can't use scripts bru
Also remove wide chars
Idk how
Me neither I never stack in siril. It sucks
Oof
Use deep sky stacker
found out my a55 has raw capabilities but i need to boot load my phone to even activate it from Camera2Api
fun
DeepSkyCamera told me my hardware on my phone when i looked at the files on my laptop
it can take raw but samsung turned it ofd by default
Caden, does it work with the a54? Also if it does can you tell me how do I do it
im pretty sure it can
i dunno yet
im gonna work that out when im back home
first try at Deepskycamera too btw
Damn you bought pro?
Buy one for me too lol
buy one for me too pls 🙏
Cmon man my birthday was 1 day ago yk I love you
guys what stacking app do u use
Sequator, photoshop, deepskystacker
I think thats all I use
Also autostakkert for planetary
dss is eating my cpu like its a bitcoin farm 💔
small amount of research, camera2apis full capability can be unlocked via rooting the phone
possible on the a54 and 55
however i dont think many people have tried it yet
will let yall know if i succeed in getting it working
Wait do I need outside components to modify my phone to raw
Or I can just modify it thru code
via coding
or mainly chucking your phone into dev mode, turning oem unlocking and usb debugging
going into boot menu and unlocking the bootloader
which will factory reset your phone, so do backup any important resources
Well damn it.
ik it was a shocker for me too
not too bad though
its should be as simple as being able to push phone cameras to their limits
but i sort of understand why samsung disabled it
mainly cost effective prices, many other companies do similar aspects in which you can only access it via rooting and initially voiding any warranty held on your device
AGHHH I want pro but I can't crack it from anyone because only 100+ people have this app 😭
im pretty sure the free version can achieve very similar results
Hai guys
yikes
i dunno about limited camera2api
Im gonna assume that raw capabilities will be a huge pain to achieve with the a55
hence most A series phones are flagged under limited camera2api
what is a good camera app for astrophotography?
the built in expert RAW app for samsung blows it only has 3 predefined exposure times and the shortest is 3 minutes, i want to take ones that are 30 seconds
im willing to spend a bit of money if that means getting a better experience
preferrably one that can take multiple exposures one after the other without manual input
deepskycamera
Opinions?
yikes what happened there
😦
is getting the pro version worth the money or does the default work good enough
It's my first image man cmon
you'll be fine with the free version
to be fair it looks decent for a first image
but whatever happened around the edges
good golly
And it’s awesome
stacked the best frames from a video I got of Jupiter with my phone through my StarBlast, pretty happy with the result after processing.
certainly not the best, but it's my first legit image of any planet in our star system where you can actually tell what it is.
S22 ultra
one very important thing
with the deepskycamera thing
once you set focus
do not disturb it
like really don't
the slider is a pain to set up
it's extremely difficult to get it to pin point at some value
set the focus while you're at home, or using something like a distant lightpole or something
This is also quite a weird tip, but
Always set the number of frames you wish to take 1 higher
Like if you want to take 16 frames, set it to 17,
Because I have to click the on screen start button for it to start capturing images
and that causes shake
and the first photo gets ruined
there is a delay option in the settings
also if we do that it will be a real pain if the stacking software recognizes those frames as of high quality
Yeah but not live stacking
sequator man
idk never used it
oh
Bad reccomendation.
i dunno then
update on this, only got my phone rooted after a very painful 7 hours of whatever
have not done anything with camera2api yet
great congratz
Ayy it's good but you forgot to dither or some of your photos were not same as others I guess.?
Idk tbh xd
Your focus is good than most of people's photos.
Just I think there are some artifacts issues. Which I never encountered in my photos
Keep it up!! 
It's cuz there were buildings
After some black pointing
DSC is disabled if you root your phone
now we know
also rooting is painfully annoying to do for just renabling basic things that get disabled after unlocking the bootloader
specifically google wallet
will try to get raw enabled tho, will keep updated on it
Some phones can unlock a longer exposure time through root access. But it’s indeed a hassle for using banking apps, Google Wallet etc. I want to get any phone, remove the lens to focus directly on the telescope without an eyepiece, and root it. Just for scientific purposes 
I have a Zenfone 5 here that can do long exposures, but it also doesn’t support raw. The only problem is that its sensor is really bad, and the long exposure photos end up with a lot of black holes in the background
I usually only use it as a hand controller for my mount and take photos with the mi12 on the telescope. This way, I don’t need to switch apps while capturing to do goto etc
3-axis 3D Adapter
For anyone with a 3D printer still using basic plastic adapters, printing one of these could be a great upgrade. It’s likely much better than the simple ones
Yeah really. Thats why i only do it on thw smartphones that i dont use
@iron bear im sure you own quite some eyepieces, do you recommend any middle power eyepueces good for phone ap and visual?
I know he uses a really nice flat field eyepiece from SVBONY whose name escapes me atm
lemme search
also no more then 100$
aint that rich heh
i just realised something, i already have a flatfield eyepiece
lacerta 25mm 65°
Jupiter today, 187x magnification. Google Pixel 6 + 12" dob. Horrible seeing conditions
When is it phone astrophotography and when is it “I don’t own an Astro cam and use my phone instead”-photography?
love the colors
Lucas is first one and the majority is 2nd
I feel like most people here who do phone Astro would prefer using a dedicated astronomy camera, we just don't have the money or the technology for it. You'd need a computer as well, in order to manage the astronomy camera.
It's all a money thing
that is exactly what i did
i only used phone until i could buy a uranus c
i still use the phone for widefield
but the stars are terrible
Honestly for me it might come to the point that I continue doing phone astro simply out of spite
like, just to make a point that it can be done well
I use an 18mm Ultraflatfield from SVBONY. There are identical models from APM, Sky Rover, and Celestron, but the SVBONY version is usually cheaper. Below that, there’s the 20mm 68-degree also from SVBONY, which is decent despite not having a flat field
18mm UFF X 20mm 68
There’s a big difference in noise because I used my Mi12 with the 18mm and my Mi9T with the 20mm. But it works for star comparison.
Note: There was a full moon on the left, and 50% moon on the right.
i got about 8 minutes gonna stack later
30 second exposure with iphone 16 pro in bortle 3/4 ish
i did 10 second subs cuz the 30 second were trailing due to wind
i can already see rosette in this which is cool
How do you get the milky way so pronounced?
I've been trying to the get the milky way in Bortle 4 skies, for an exposure time of about 51 minutes
But still it's not visible.
Is the difference of 1 Bortle Class really that big?
Anyways amazing photos
sorry actually it was like a high bortle 3 i think
don’t really know though
honestly idk it’s just probably darker skies you may be in a lighter sky than you think you are
you can get easliy way good result under 10 min
bortle 4 is not that bad
make sure of your iso, exposure and focus
I tried the delay option right now, and unfortunately it applies the delay after the first frame has been taken, not before it. I don't know of any remote triggers that can be used with a phone, (if there are please tell me), so the only option left with me is the extra frame route.
And I don't understand how that'll be a problem, since I don't think most people would attempt stacking on the phone itself, and you could rename the frames itself.
If I made any errors in the message, I would love to correct them.
I guess my skies aren't bortle 4 then, or maybe my processing skills are just bad 😭
I set ISO to 400, and the exposure to about 17 seconds, and the focus I have preset.
okay, do 800. and is there light dome near your place. like bright sky glow concentrated?
also lower the exposure if you see stars trailing
17 seconds is the sweet spot that I found that gives me almost no trails
