Phone Astrophotography

[atomic rampart]

So its possible

Inside that circle you can see m51

Here is a cropped version

My fov roughly

[atomic rampart]

This is also a single sub

Yes you can

But you would need to install an app

I forgot what its called but it allows you to take long exposure and saves is as raw png format

Ah its called deepskycamera

Also grab stellarium as well

[floral token]

They know that

It's not about whether you can do untracked ap or not?
It's about convenience and getting more light in single frame.

[atomic rampart]

They asked "i wanna see how it does with astro"

And i showed them what they can achieve with a phone

[floral token]

Grand?

He knows the stuff

Maybe if there is newcomer, then I am wrong..

[atomic rampart]

Well technically this was more targeted to the one above but i did answer one of his question which was "i have the same question for the s23 and above users specifically with the telephoto lenses"

And i as it turnes out i have an s23 ultra

And i answered "i wouldn't recommend anything higher than 60mm with out a tracker"

[floral token]

Oh yeah.
Even you can do untracked with more than 60mm but it's not good as the sub will be under 3 seconds to have good stars

[atomic rampart]

This is with my 3x and so is the one below

[atomic rampart]

Yeah

[floral token]

This is crazy boi

[grizzled lance]

Dayumnn

I have pics from iPhone 14 promax

Its ok

[floral token]

samsang people have soo much potential with thier 10x lol

[floral token]

most of them dont even take it serioulsly to learn to have good focus or know about trialing

[grizzled lance]

The bluest pic has a comet bit faint

[grizzled lance]

Do you think I can attach any phone on just eq 3-2 mount and take pics

[timid wedge]

reprocessed my 7.5 min in b2

[floral token]

i am not sure about attaching mounts to phone as i dont have any mounts

[grizzled lance]

I'm gonna try it's gonna be a bit cursed

Maybe needs tiny weights for counter weight

[grizzled lance]

Ngl I do use one of the Samsung flagship I don't know how to like really focuz is properly or actually use it

[floral token]

its easy

[grizzled lance]

Cuz I see people if they wanna focus on a star it has to go green

[floral token]

first, choose a bright star, then zoom in that star and start changing your focus until you get good result, it wont be perfect but way WAY better than avoiding it

then zoom out and start shooting

[grizzled lance]

Ohh so you just gonna have to fiddle with settings

Normally on another phone I js use max focus and it works out really well

[floral token]

also make sure to have less exposure if having star trails, for me as i did orion constellation(didnt know how to focus, just infinity) i did only 10 seconds

[floral token]

i used to do that but we can improve a lot by having good focus than just infinity

[grizzled lance]

Do you think I could like take many pictures with the focuser in the phone and try get best results and stick with it

Or do I have to zoom in any star

Using my telescope

[floral token]

dont know, didnt tried telescope phone ap

[grizzled lance]

Ohh

Its worth trying you get good results

[floral token]

i dont have a telescope

[grizzled lance]

Mw shots on phone is still really good

[floral token]

just phone and tripod and also bino but didnt get clear skies to do m31

[grizzled lance]

If you try attaching phone t on telescope it's such a hassle but In the end you get good results

[floral token]

didnt tried mw but did orion constellation

let me send the result

[grizzled lance]

I should try doingthat

[floral token]

not great quality in discord

[grizzled lance]

🤯

Way better than mine

You can even see horsehead

[floral token]

yeah let me send cropped ver

i was also not serious at that time

[grizzled lance]

Are you new?

[floral token]

in ap, i think cause i started after comet atlas 2024

so from mid october

[grizzled lance]

Even got rosette nebula

You get better pics than me lmao

[floral token]

yeah rosette is easy but i hope to get more integration time to get faint witchhead

[grizzled lance]

Is it stacked?

[floral token]

duh lol

[grizzled lance]

I need to try stacking

[floral token]

its 41min of integration not just one 1 frame

[floral token]

dudeeee

[grizzled lance]

Yeah im new to stacking

I have so much random pics 100x of it

[floral token]

i was too, you will get used to it

[grizzled lance]

But I need to get better

[grizzled lance]

Hopefully

[floral token]

i was doing same

[floral token]

yeah any doubts let me know

[grizzled lance]

👍🏼

[floral token]

make sure to use your 10x man

[grizzled lance]

I will 100%

[floral token]

its stupidly great for just an phone, if i had that i would tried soo many other dso ngl

[grizzled lance]

I'll send pics if I ever get good weather

[floral token]

Here's the cropped version

Stacking is everything and also post processing

[grizzled lance]

🤯

How much did you do for a single frame

[floral token]

10 second

Default zoom

[grizzled lance]

Ohh

[floral token]

800iso, if you have clear skies
Go for 1600 anytime

[grizzled lance]

Alright I'll make sure 10 sec exposure

[floral token]

It's a stacked image
250 frames × 10 second= 41min

[grizzled lance]

Dang

[floral token]

Make sure to get good focus and Better stability if using tripod

If not then, you will waste many frames and probably most of it

Also have a app that has intervalometer so you don't have to click everytime

[grizzled lance]

I'll just attach my phone to eq tripod somehow

[floral token]

Yeah I think it's possible
Ask @iron bear

[grizzled lance]

Lmao I cna use s pen 😂

Yeha hopefully I'll send pics

And get good weather

[floral token]

It's tiring

[timid wedge]

my goal is to capture the witch's head nebula when i shoot the widefield orion constilation

[floral token]

Mine too

But it would be very faint, we would much more integration than a dSLR setup
Like atleast 3-4 hours to get good view of it

I know you can do it ❤️‍🩹

[timid wedge]

so you think i could capture it with 2.5 hours in b4

[floral token]

Most probably if you get every setting perfect for capturing

Make sure to dither and also check focus every 10 min(dither too)

[timid wedge]

do you think i should set my iso to 12000 or smth

[floral token]

12000? It's not possible
1200, yes

[timid wedge]

i will dither every 2.5 minutes of data

[timid wedge]

y not?

[floral token]

12000? You are saying 12000

[timid wedge]

yes

[floral token]

Lol with phone?

[timid wedge]

this was taken at 12000

[floral token]

I don't think that possible and if it is not worth it probably lmao

[floral token]

Never seen more than 6400

[iron bear]

[floral token]

Lucas you are crazy with that mw photo.
I know I can do that but no clear skies + there's not a good spot to get mw photo here

[timid wedge]

this was taken with 12000 iso too, my pphone can do up to 32000

[floral token]

Send me the setting photo dude

I think you are misunderstanding it

[timid wedge]

[floral token]

Oh it's a different app 💀

I thought you did it with your normal phone expert photo dude 😂

[timid wedge]

f*ck no

[floral token]

Yeah 3rd party app can do wild things

[timid wedge]

that sucks

[floral token]

I don't know why I would do such high iso

[timid wedge]

ye astroshader is insanelly good

[floral token]

You have to experiment with it
Like higher iso will have more gradient issues

[timid wedge]

i think 10000 iso is good

[floral token]

I don't recommend it or I don't think it's necessary to have that high of iso

[floral token]

I can't believe 10000 be better with just phone and tripod (not any scope)
But you do you

I think it would be worse than ever

Like even in 3200 or 6400 iso, there's a lot of gradient issues and all things get washed easily

[timid wedge]

all my pics were taken at 10000+ iso

[floral token]

Or what if 1000 is 10000 in astroshader?

Like 1600 = 16000

[timid wedge]

no

[timid wedge]

i start to have problemms at 15000+ iso

[floral token]

Lol okay, I didn't tried to can't say much

[iron bear]

One day it will work out... I went 3 years without photographing the Milky Way because I could never get clear skies while I was in the countryside during Milky Way season. I only took photos on 3 days this year. All the ones I posted here in the group were taken during just 3 days of clear skies in B4. Unfortunately, I live in B9.

[timid wedge]

@iron bear what iso do you recommennd i use for my widefield orion pic?

in bortle 4

[floral token]

: (
You did a great job man
I really liked it ❤️‍🩹

[iron bear]

It depends on your phone. On the Mi 9T, I used ISO 1600-3200. On the Mi 12, if I use ISO 800, it’s already too bright. More sensitive phones need much lower ISOs.
I used ISO 400 for mine.

[floral token]

Op nick try when you get clear sky with high iso and then check it
That would be the best way to figure it out

[floral token]

Bro is planning to use 16000 iso

[timid wedge]

im in the exact same situation as you, live in b9 and occasionally go to b4

[timid wedge]

more like 10000

[floral token]

Nick is your phone made in 1800?

[floral token]

10000 is absurdly high

[iron bear]

The bro wants to lose all the dynamic range of the sensor

[floral token]

Like even in 6400 everything is whased out

[iron bear]

I wouldn’t use more than 3200.

[floral token]

Ong

[floral token]

Even that is high for a phone

[timid wedge]

i mean apart from walking noise that isnt caused by high iso my mw pic taken with 12000 iso doesnt have any issues

[floral token]

Maybe be nick, in telescope those iso are great but for a wide field you have to try lower iso and higher iso and check both results

[timid wedge]

ok i will

[floral token]

Try 5 min with 1600 iso and 5 min with 10000 iso and stack both image and do autostrech and see what's the result

[timid wedge]

ok

[floral token]

This is the best way to figure out

Cause if you don't do lower iso you won't know the difference

[timid wedge]

yeah but i ddont have much time to play around to see what iso is best

only 1 night

abt 2-3 hours

[floral token]

If you don't try, i afraid your 1 night will go in vain

Please do 2 min atleast on both

[iron bear]

Iso 400 X iso 800

[floral token]

See this

[iron bear]

It´s a single sub

[floral token]

Man Lucas WHAT THE f

Howwwww?!

Where you live dude ?

[timid wedge]

ok i might be able to stay in b4 for 2 nights so 1st night is a test and then the second i will do the wide field

[floral token]

Don't waste a whole night

[iron bear]

São Paulo, B9. These I did in B4, but it's still very close to São Paulo. The sky is still somewhat bright despite being B4.

[timid wedge]

i will image other things with my scope too so i wont waste it

[floral token]

Do 5 min total sub on both and then after choosing one iso
Do as much as you can

[floral token]

Damn you are good lucasss 🫡

[floral token]

You can get more good spot if you go more on north

[timid wedge]

where i live vs where i go

[floral token]

Ahhaa

[iron bear]

Yes, definitely. But I need to go more than 500 km away. My state is the most populous in Brazil, so basically, there’s no sky better than B4 close

[floral token]

Ohh okay
But you have good setup right?

[iron bear]

I'm improving little by little. Until now, I was using a generic EQ3, but now I bought an Exos 2. This will significantly improve my photos

[timid wedge]

1st night ii will try 400iso vs 800iso vs 1600iso vs 3600iso vs 10000iso

[floral token]

Niceee

[timid wedge]

5 minutes each

[floral token]

You have a scope now right ?

[timid wedge]

this is mine

[iron bear]

I’ve always had one... But using it on the EQ3 was difficult. The place where I take photos is mountainous, so it’s very windy. The EQ3 couldn’t handle it.

I bought the DeepSkyCamera Pro. It seems good. I need to test it on the telescope

I need to finish assembling my OnStep. I'm waiting for the motors to arrive

I'm building a DIY. The motors I was going to use had already arrived, but I bought 400-step motors and AliExpress sent me 200-step instead. So, I returned them

[floral token]

It's great to have knowledge in DIY stuff

[iron bear]

Yes, definitely. The one I'm making will have an embedded electronic focuser. It's much better than the OnStep sold on AliExpress, and I'll spend less

[floral token]

Also I am lacking knowledge on mount under 500
Like why not star adventure 2i and why not eqm (I don't know much about eqm mounts

Can you explain some stuff?

What about th

[iron bear]

It all depends on what you want to take in the setup. If you plan to use it only with a smartphone, a Star Adventure mount would be enough. But if you intend to put a telescope on top, it's good to think about a better mount

[iron bear]

it´s a good mount to start. It is slightly smaller than the EXOS2, but it still guides well with smaller OTAs

You would just need to motorize it with OnStep.

[floral token]

Do it's not going to track?

[iron bear]

This one from the ad, no. It comes without tracking. It needs OnStep, just like my exosII.

[floral token]

Ohh

Thought star adventure 2i or GTi is more travel friendly

[iron bear]

For sure

[floral token]

Anyway why is your whole set-ups so cursed looking

Literally - 💀

[iron bear]

Because they are. It's a Frankenstein. The telescope is one of those generic Chinese 114mm

[floral token]

Send some of your fav shots on that rig?

[iron bear]

It can still be improved a lot. I haven't done any of these with the Exos 2

[balmy ravine]

Why is it so grey? Is the white balance blue?

[timid wedge]

its not grey

[timid wedge]

this is grey

[floral token]

These are absolutely brilliant!!

[floral token]

It looks like black to me, is it due to your style of processing or maybe higher iso
.

[somber lantern]

Finally someone imaged that one cluster with the planetary neb

[spice gale]

the goat of phone ap, our idol frfr❤️🔥

[balmy ravine]

Jpg image stack

[dry falcon]

What’s the star cluster with the planetary nebula called?

[iron bear]

M46

[floral token]

Did you shoot M1 lucas?

[vague shard]

People always underestimate what's possible with phone without tracking

[dry falcon]

Alr ty

[vague shard]

What you achieve with phone is still wizardary for me

These are tracked right?

[floral token]

Yes

[iron bear]

Not yet, but I intend to

[iron bear]

Yep!

[floral token]

Okay

[lean magnet]

oh you have that svbony guidecam?

i thought it wasn't good

[iron bear]

Angeleyes. But it´s the same
It's not very good, but it do the job

[lean magnet]

how good compared to imx462?

[exotic merlin]

my tracker dosent work, my phone adapter is homemade and it constantly falls off

and this is what i managed to get

plus i havent done this since summer

[coral cedar]

another jupiter captured tonight

kinda cloudy today, and i got it when jupiter was low

probably didnt went too wel

[dry falcon]

How do you guys take photos of planets with iPhones, I’m pretty new and idk how to do it

[spice gale]

make videos of the planey

then use pipp

and then use autostakkert4

[spice gale]

there are plently of tutorials on youtube

[coral cedar]

Ive got it pawns also

[coral cedar]

You wanna take video of it, set your iso too low, but dont lose it details, exposure maybe double your fram rate will be enough, jupiter is bright, so its kinda easy too capture it

[dry falcon]

Do you do this on the iphone camera app or a seperate space camera app?

[coral cedar]

I dont use iphone apperantly, i use the default camera

No need 3rd party app camera

[dry falcon]

I cant lower my contrast enough to the point where detail is visible on jupiter

and its too bright

How long does my video need to be btw?

[spice gale]

not important as long as its there

can be 10 sec or 10 min

i usually do 30 sec

[dry falcon]

And what do i do with the video i took?

[spice gale]

put in pipp

a software that puts jupiter in the middleof the video at all times

so then autostakkert4 stacks the frames

and then do editing

[dry falcon]

Does this help non-tracking?

[coral cedar]

Yess

Pipp make it tracked

[spice gale]

i mean i use a nontracking dob mount so yeah

[dry falcon]

Ah ok

[coral cedar]

I dont use tracker also

[dry falcon]

I've never used any software before but ill try my best

I'll just search tutorials up online

[spice gale]

yep

[coral cedar]

Good luck

!

[spice gale]

yes good luck

[coral cedar]

My mars kinda sucked, way too small, i gotta use 4mm lens rn

[spice gale]

yk mars too overrated imo

for phone ap

[coral cedar]

Lmao ngl yeah

[spice gale]

no detail AT ALL

[coral cedar]

Maybe ill get venus when it sunset

[coral cedar]

Lmfaooo TRUEEE

[spice gale]

venus should work

[coral cedar]

Yess, it bright as hell

[spice gale]

yh

sadly no detail on surface like jupiter but yeah

[coral cedar]

Idk with saturn, ill might get it also

[coral cedar]

Yeah, i see most of the picture was pale white thingy

[spice gale]

yeah

[rapid robin]

28K MESSAGES WHAAAT

[coral cedar]

But ill get it later if the is sky clear

[spice gale]

you havent already?

[coral cedar]

I did, but captured like 8 months ago

Wanna see the current saturn...

Curious haha

[spice gale]

yeah sure

also tell me your setup

[coral cedar]

Celestron 80Eq with 10mm aspheric lens, samsung a53

Yeah nothihg fancy actually...

[spice gale]

nice tho

i almost had the same setup but an older samsung

a52

[coral cedar]

Ahhhh that phonee

Lmao

[spice gale]

yeah

tryna change it next year

my screen has problems

and fixing it costs like a new a52

so yeah not worth it

[coral cedar]

Man repairing these days just like scam...

[spice gale]

frr

[coral cedar]

My phone had a problem also, only the screw wasnt plugged properly, when i went to the service center, charges me like around 30 dollars

For only screw

Lmfao

[spice gale]

dam

[coral cedar]

If i know the problem, i would fix it by myself, but yeah, experience

But anyway, still gotta maximize our setup, even its kinda low set up or mid

[spice gale]

you got a phone adapter?

[balmy ravine]

All 4 moons were that close?

Yes

[coral cedar]

Yes

[coral cedar]

Yessir

[balmy ravine]

I took a similar cloud picture in Anglesey, I don't have it rn

[robust fog]

It is

But only newer devices can do such analog amounts

Even so it's borderline useless

Read Camera2API report and get max gain reading

Often it's 400-800ish

Some rare ones go 3200-6400ish

But most are 400-800

My Pixel 8 Pro is 667

I know new vivo and oppo devices allow crazy ranges

I know OnePlus 13 ultra wide lens goes to ISO 16,000

Camera2API report as proof

Search maxAnalogSensitivity value

Here's my OnePlus 8 Pro's main lens too

Essentially it boils down to his device

Of course, some do allow mix of analog and digital

But it's a bad idea since you are digitally boosting it, like doing +3EV on Lightroom exposure slider as example; baked in tho

So if you blew up a highlight via artificial digital gain, it's fvcked and no longer recoverable

The artificial induced noise is counterproductive to stacking too as it's causing unnecessary interference

[floral token]

It's only possible with 3rd party apps

[robust fog]

No, stock too

Hell, stock goes crazy high too digitally

But to know analog value just check API report

[coral cedar]

i got venus and saturn recently

saturn's ring almost invisible right now...

and venus being half phase kinda like onion ngl

lmao

[spice gale]

yoo these images look great

[coral cedar]

todays jupiter

[coral cedar]

thank you

[balmy ravine]

Why are a lot of stars in my raw images red/blue?

Like full saturation

[spice gale]

show me

[balmy ravine]

the area between andromeda and cassiopeia

i think it might be because the sharp focus means light from a star only hits 1 subpixel

[cosmic tendon]

It was a bit cloudy and hazy (thus bad seeing), but man, I was so happy to see stars after 5 weeks of clouds.

[spice gale]

what iphone you got?

[cosmic tendon]

iPhone 14 in bortle 3 😍 (vacation with wife and kids, so can’t take my whole setup).

[zealous edge]

so real, prolonged periods of not being able to see the stars or even the sun really does things to me

[spice gale]

yes

you can see by the stars that you photographed with an iphone

[spice gale]

oh really nice

enjoy your holiday!

[cosmic tendon]

Thank you ☺️

[balmy ravine]

stacked image 13 mins 30 secs

[raven tiger]

4 minute exposure with my pixel 6

[wind spoke]

was taken with the onionoscope

(paper tube with awful plastic lense)

[zealous edge]

what even is that

Uranus?

[wind spoke]

nope

the chromatic aberration is so bad

its become rgb

zoom in on the image xD

[zealous edge]

Oh my goodness😭

you photographed the raindrop nebula, the way its refracting light like a rainbow

wait so what actually was it?

just a random star or was it actually a specific target

[wind spoke]

random star :D

[zealous edge]

crazy chromatic aberration

[wind spoke]

its the same type of awful telescope as this

but with phone instead of astrocam

[coral cedar]

Probably hot pixel

Or you set ur white balance too yellow

So it creates red and purple, blueish

[remote cypress]

I like the last one a lot pretty sharp

[remote cypress]

HOLY MOLY WHAT PHONE AND SCOPE

[grizzled lance]

Its stacked real good

The ring nebula looks real good aswell

[grizzled lance]

What's your setup?

[wind spoke]

prob due to light pollution

[floral token]

Might be yeah.
But tweaking small things in post processing can change Many things

[wind spoke]

yee

[floral token]

He was also doing higher iso, like more than 10000, so I guess to lower the whiteness( I don't know the real term but increasing iso create washed image) so to counter than, he might have done that

[wind spoke]

prob

[floral token]

It looks like gif too me 💀😂
It's too good to be true dude

[coral cedar]

Just wanted to share my astrophotography journey, at february 2024, i took my first pic of milky way image

I even dont know what even is that lmao, until i did a research, its milky wah

Way

But as along with it, i start to like photographing stars

This my recent pic of milky way

[iron bear]

It´s a generic 114/900 + a Eq with onstep. I will start using it with the Exos 2 from now on, but all of these I did with the EQ3

[coral cedar]

I gotta tell, this hobby is worth it

[iron bear]

Xiaomi Mi12

[grizzled lance]

🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

Very well impressed

[floral token]

@iron bear getting a HELL of craving to shoot heart nebula with just phone, is it worth the time? i will crop cause i dont want to focus on mw but just heart nebula. I am okay to put time and work but if it is not worth it, i will drop the idea. also pleaase suggest some good and challenging(but worth it) dso for phone and tripod(not a star tracker).

[grizzled lance]

I got similar results for ring nebula but a single frame

Its worth it trust

[coral cedar]

Show

[grizzled lance]

It'll look very similar like his one if it was stacked

I don't think the camera was align to the eyepiece perfectly

[spice gale]

to whose?

[grizzled lance]

This

The one with ring

[spice gale]

sry to breack the news

but thats not ring neb

[grizzled lance]

How

M57 i think

[spice gale]

he is in south hemisphere

[grizzled lance]

Oh what

[spice gale]

and thats def not it

[grizzled lance]

Its looks so similar tho

[spice gale]

ik

but its not

[grizzled lance]

Damn what did he capture then

[spice gale]

hmm

wait

[grizzled lance]

Helix?

[spice gale]

no

sry but idk

ik @grizzled lance

thats m46

[iron bear]

I’m not sure about the Heart Nebula, since I’m in the Southern Hemisphere and don’t have a view of it. But it should be possible to capture it with a phone, though probably not with a fixed tripod.

As for other objects, I would focus on planetary nebulae. They are quite bright, making them much easier to photograph with a fixed tripod; like M27, the Ring Nebula, M46, etc.

[iron bear]

m46

[iron bear]

I can photograph it, but only in the winter. It still rises to about 30 degrees from horizon here

[floral token]

Is planetary nebula possible with just phone?
I thought it was the hardest

[iron bear]

Oh, without a telescope?

I thought you were going to photograph it with the telescope

Now that I’ve read it properly

One from last year that I took of the northern Milky Way. The phone does capture most nebulae in widefield, and this photo has only 30 frames, not hours of exposure

[floral token]

HOW tf

lucas come on broo : (

[pastel nexus]

Planetary with a phone is possible if you're using a telescope. But with just the phone, the best you'd get is Jupiter's moons

[clear hawk]

this is insane for a phone shot of only 30 frames

what bortle were you in?

[grizzled lance]

Its possible trust

[coral cedar]

todays jupiter

1st january of jupiter

captured the great red spot also

[iron bear]

Bortle 4

[ivory thunder]

jupiter january

Mars march

[prisma raft]

had no service so i didnt know there would be an aurora

[prisma raft]

enhanced photo

[balmy ravine]

Caught the aurora today

[pastel nexus]

I think you also caught the lmc and the smc (Milkyway satellite galaxies)

[prisma raft]

i know i did

[pastel nexus]

They're out of view from me sadly

[balmy ravine]

Total exposure time?

[somber lantern]

Woah magellanic clouds spotted

[prisma raft]

photoshop enhaned image now

first widefield image too

[plush palm]

Are those Magellanic clouds?

[plush palm]

Orion, taken with realme 9

[floral token]

Good what's the integration time and bortle scale?

Cause there's soon much noise

Maybe less integration time

[plush palm]

I used 10 seconds of exposure and took 11 frames, Bortle 3

[floral token]

Ohh you need more integration time

[plush palm]

Yeah I know

[floral token]

10 second is perfect for 1x zoom and bortle scale 3 will help you a lot

Still you got flame nebula 🫡

[plush palm]

Yeah, I took this one last year but forgot to take darks lol

[spice gale]

how you take darks?

[plush palm]

Cover the phone camera, take the same exposure and iso image and that's it

[spice gale]

ok thanks

and how many?

if i take like 15 lights?

[plush palm]

I usually take 5, although for example this one I only took 3 darks

[plush palm]

And 15 frames each 10 seconds

[spice gale]

wow such nice results

[plush palm]

Thanksss

[spice gale]

also no moving pixels

ykwim

forgot the dam name

nvm the compression is too big

and you dont need to do flats ?

[plush palm]

Not for phone astrophotography, I just take lights and darks and that's really it

[spice gale]

ok thanks

you wont belive how cursed my setup was last night

as the tripod is killing be

doesnt want to stay still

ill show later if you want

[plush palm]

Would be delighted

[dusk crow]

Is that normal how darks should looks like with phone?

[spice gale]

fixed the tripod😅

[spice gale]

idk but i want to find out too

[bronze jackal]

First time viewing jupiter at higher than 80x magnification

A single handheld phone pic with my new 7mm eyepiece

Bit blurry at over 200x, but still amazing

[potent shore]

If you have a phone adapter, use it to make videos then process the data. Trust me, you'll get a much better and clear picture than that. But even then, that single exposure is already crazy enough for that type of detail

[bronze jackal]

I unfortunately don't, want to get one though

[spice gale]

i agree

[potent shore]

Even the cheap plastic ones may surprise you

[spice gale]

just try and make a video for min 10 second and youll see how much of an improvement will be

@potent shore can you help me?

[potent shore]

With?

[spice gale]

idk if my darks are supposed to look like this

[potent shore]

Let me see

[spice gale]

they are kinda blue

i js coveret the phone cam with my finger yk

same settings

and lots of pixels bc its raw

[potent shore]

Ah maybe that's why, could be an uneven surface and some light maybe popped in. Or, that's just how it is

based off limited knowledge of course

[spice gale]

so they should be completely dark?

even if they are raw?

[potent shore]

Theoretically yes

In the case of raw however

it sometimes does have colors, which is normal for me at least

but majority of it should be black

[spice gale]

and the image turns out fine ?

[potent shore]

Yes

[spice gale]

and how am i supposed to do that

[potent shore]

look

[spice gale]

wow what phone?

[potent shore]

S23 FE with optical support, a pair of binoculars

bortle 9

[spice gale]

really nice results

[spice gale]

.

[potent shore]

Ye

[potent shore]

Oh yes, just cover it up with something black, or a cover lid, making sure no light slips in

other than that

should be fine

[spice gale]

hmm

[potent shore]

The whole point is that the camera is completely covered

[spice gale]

do you have an example by any chance?

maybe i could use my telescope cover

or an eyepiece cover

[potent shore]

Let me see

[spice gale]

but idk how

[potent shore]

Bad example, some light came in. But if I can send the raw I do get some blue as well

So generally, make sure the cap does cover the camera really well

[spice gale]

ok ill tty

thanks

[potent shore]

No problem

[coral cedar]

Kinda sad that my raw pic didn't look like this

[spice gale]

ok that worked so much better

i mean i can still see pixels

but its normal i guess

no blue

black and pixels

thanks @potent shore

[potent shore]

Just as I suspected, again your welcome👌🏼

Venus?

[wind spoke]

mueheheh >:3

[spice gale]

?

finished

did 20 frames orion 20 frames flame and 30 whole constelation of orion

[floral token]

I have same setup

It's damn hard to focus

Not bino but phone*

[potent shore]

@wind spoke had a venus pic and deleted and now setting me up😐

[spice gale]

oh

i think ill start stavking

[potent shore]

I don't got much trouble with focusing, interesting...

[floral token]

your photo is not perfectly focused

[potent shore]

I think it was because of stacking, the single exposures looked on point though

[floral token]

thats the issue

not all frames will be good

so we have to be very careful with bino ap

though theres no star trialing, which is very good : )

[potent shore]

True true

Ye was happy about that

[potent shore]

I don't know though I think the bigger stars give it a better look

in my opinion at least

[floral token]

out of focus is not good

though your image is still good 😄 with such equipment

[wind spoke]

its bc wasn't done with phone xD

[potent shore]

Worse nightmare of all astrophotographers

[potent shore]

Hmmm

[plush palm]

No, it should look like this, full of rainbow pixels

[balmy ravine]

Ct you here aswell?

Orion from bortle 9

[bronze jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[wind spoke]

why is orion most photographed in this small corner of the internet

[lean magnet]

bc bright

and we are lucky that one of the brightest dsos we have also looks really nice

[grizzled lance]

Dayuumnn

Horsehead

[bronze jackal]

Got 18 minutes on orion nebula

will likely be my last 10x lens photo on the s22 ultra before i change phones

[spice gale]

nice

i finally stacked

and learned how to use siril

🥳

[zealous edge]

Honestly we're pretty incredibly lucky when it comes to a lot of things astronomy

Our solar system is super diverse, containing likely most if not all of the major planet types (rocky, habitable, gas giants, ice giants), two of which are really cool looking and pretty easily visible/photographable through a quality telescope, our planet's atmosphere is just thick enough to nurture clouds and allow a proper water cycle, but not so thick that it inhibits us from properly seeing into space.

We live in an incredibly rare type of solar system that allows for total solar eclipses to occur, in which the moon perfectly blocks the light of the sun in 100% totality. If the moon were any further or closer, or bigger or smaller, it wouldn't work. If the Earth and moon orbited any further or closer to the sun (ignoring the other problems that would cause), it wouldn't work. That and the fact that Earth ended up being a habitable planet with intelligent life to actually observe this insanely rare cosmic event at all, we are genuinely ridiculous incredibly lucky.

Our galaxy exists pretty close to another one that's far larger than ours, that also happens to have two distinct satellite galaxies just like our Milky Way. The Orion molecular cloud complex is positioned to us in such a way that we can easily observe the star formation inside the Orion Nebula, the horsehead appears its most unique, and Barnard's Loop doesn't obscure the rest of the nebulosity. We live in a solar system so abundant with micro meteors that we have yearly predictable meteor showers, almost all of which have unique features and locations in the night sky. We get atleast a few comets every century, we live in a densely nebulous spiral galaxy with vibrant activity and great variety in stars, we're quite literally surrounded by very important deep sky objects that all have supremely bolstered our understanding of space and astronomy, almost all of which are accessible by anyone with a good telescope.

(sorry for the huge text wall LOL)

[wind spoke]

go to bed and stop typing 🙏🙏🙏

[zealous edge]

it is 6:50 PM :3

[wind spoke]

omg

idc

go to bed anyway

[zealous edge]

Lmao

[wind spoke]

early night

good for the brain

trust

[zealous edge]

I slept until 4:00 PM today, I think I have enough sleep for the day

(I genuinely have a problem)

[spice gale]

how yall ppl can sleep so much

its 2 am and i hope ill wake up at 10am

[wild flame]

another banger skyscraper of text from Sha77ered

[balmy ravine]

2 second binoculars image

[zealous edge]

you know it

[prisma raft]

yes it is

[bronze jackal]

My subs were underexposed and the stack was just impossible to work with

What a waste of time

Also light pollution where i live is noticeably worse than last

I can see about 10% less stars i would say

[lean magnet]

Other than the solar system part, i don't think what we have is too rare

Example: imagine if we were in triangulum

[lean magnet]

though i say this because i don't think it's common for systems to have as interesting of a nearby nebula as orion

In our galaxy, we got pretty lucky but it's not like we got the lottery

[spice gale]

cool

today is stack day

yesterday i stayed up to 2 am to learn siril

and another 30 min to transform it into png😭

[balmy ravine]

Aperture diameter makes a huge difference when it comes to total exposure time needed

[ivory thunder]

earthshine!!

[wind spoke]

imagine being in the center of a cluster

like one of the extremely tight together ones

[lean magnet]

you don't get night anymore

you get bright day and dimmer day

[balmy ravine]

Moon+Venus

[wind spoke]

would be kinda cool tho

[wind spoke]

voon menus

[balmy ravine]

Video through binoculars: https://youtube.com/shorts/gYmYlJOtQ2c

I screen recorded because you can't record with shutterspeed higher than 1/30

[ivory thunder]

moon and venus

[plush palm]

Orion's belt, 4 minutes exposure, taken with realme 9 (as always)

[plush palm]

Omg discord ruined quality sooo much

[plush palm]

Here is full quality https://drive.google.com/file/d/14FLSQTLwKU5X8Bzuf5IqYDzHX8yrFSPY/view?usp=drivesdk

[spice gale]

bortle?

[plush palm]

Bortle 3 I believe

[spice gale]

wow beautiful

also i finished stacking and processing

orion contellation

but cant process the orion nebula

anyways lemme show results

bortle 7

[balmy ravine]

Moon will go infront of Saturn tomorrow

[analog sable]

Got this pic of Jupiter with a iphone and a 70/700 telescope

[elder birch]

Orion and running man
iPhone15: 3s x600, ISO 8000 in AstroShader
Shot using an svbony 50mm guide scope and AZ-Gti and 50mm plossl (only rig I could fit into a rucksack 🫣)

[plush palm]

What mouth?

Aha az-gti

My bad

[spice gale]

very nice!

[spice gale]

quick photo

did some videos too

atmosphere so trash

[sick kernel]

Your is much better what telescope you use

This is mine

I hate using my phone as a camera its trash i need to buy a proper camera

There are my best pics with telescope

[spice gale]

dobson heritage 150mm

[spice gale]

i wish i would too but its not worth it with the telescope i have

i will buy the 15 pro which has astroshader

[spice gale]

really cool jupiter

[sick kernel]

(me casualy texting you while working on a saturn in siril lol)

[sick kernel]

ty

that one is a bit edited let me show you original

[spice gale]

got 10 mins untill saturns appears again

[spice gale]

wow great job at editing it

[sick kernel]

ye but ima proly not capture it cuz conditions are too bad

for me atleast

[spice gale]

i have bad atmosphere but clear

so yeah

[sick kernel]

idk why but its fog outside and athmosfere is tooooooo wobbly i never experienced more wobble

[spice gale]

i had foggy on nye

[sick kernel]

(btw its snow outside so im doing this from my room hahaha

[spice gale]

such bad ex0erience

[spice gale]

lmao where are u from

[sick kernel]

Serbia small country in Balkans

[spice gale]

oh my neighbour

im from romania

[sick kernel]

oh i love romanians (yall girls fire)

lol

[spice gale]

ikr

but they have bad personalities

most of them

ok i gtg

talk to you soon

[sick kernel]

oki byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[spice gale]

its over

had high expectation

but results werent THAT bad

single subs

[balmy ravine]

It was cloudy today so I didn't see anything, here is an occultation 2 month ago: https://youtube.com/shorts/ajawJN84b4o

[somber lantern]

Hey I have this scope

[somber lantern]

This looks unfocused

[spice gale]

reching focus was hard

[somber lantern]

Yeah it be like rhat

[spice gale]

and also atmosphere was incredibly bad

wont have time t9 make a better image rn

[somber lantern]

Oh wait is this the 76/900

[coral cedar]

mars

pic kinda suck

[sick kernel]

Ye

[wind spoke]

r u sure its not just ur setup

[spice gale]

i mean as i said

it was hard to reacj focus

everyone doing phone ap knows it is when you go high mag

and also atmosphere

made it harder to see if i am focused or not

[wind spoke]

its not because ur using a phone

its because your telescope isn't good enough

[spice gale]

wym

[wind spoke]

everything looks fuzzy at high magnification

because of the limits of the telescope

its not your phone

[spice gale]

its not phone

is atmosphere

trust me i did lunar for 2 years

[wind spoke]

💀

without an astrocam or dslr?

[spice gale]

yes

[wind spoke]

major funds issue

frfr

also the bigger the mirror the more detail but the more zoomed in it is

[spice gale]

ik

[spice gale]

its not worth getting a camera for me

[wind spoke]

just making sure 👍

whats your telescope

[spice gale]

dob herutage 150mm

[wind spoke]

send me a picture of it on your table

i want to see how big it is

it says its table top

[spice gale]

table that i putted thw telescope on?

[spice gale]

yes it is

ooh

i cant rn since is 12 pm

but the table its 1m on 2m

stable

[wind spoke]

ive checked and it looks mini xD

yea theres no point getting a camera

my internet died for a second i think

yep

it did

[spice gale]

lmao probabky

so yeah

ill stuck to phone ap

maybe get an iphone

[wind spoke]

take a picture of Andromeda

[spice gale]

did

[wind spoke]

show

[spice gale]

4s single frame

wait 1 sec

[wind spoke]

i dont have tracking yet so my exposure time is 350ms xD

[wind spoke]

oh god

star trails

i have like almost under 1° of viewing

with my astrocam

[spice gale]

yeah...

[wind spoke]

i cant fit Andromeda in a full frame

[spice gale]

what cam?

[wind spoke]

585mc

[spice gale]

nice

[wind spoke]

the picture i took looks bad bc of the low exposure and high gain

im sending it rn

[spice gale]

ok

[spice gale]

looks like its sattelite galaxy, bc no dust details

no startrails at least

[wind spoke]

there is detail

u can just barely see it

xD

[spice gale]

yeah if you turn your screen brightness at max

[wind spoke]

i cant do high exposures bc those star trails would be more than trippled at 3 seconds xD

[spice gale]

yeah

sad part of no tracking mount

[wind spoke]

fr

im getting one soon

so

im saul good

[spice gale]

w

[lean magnet]

it is

its so much better than phone ap

[lean magnet]

i have the same scope as astrodomi

and no it absolutely is the atmosphere

[spice gale]

yk i would

but i would have to be more dedicated for adtro

[spice gale]

which currently im not

[lean magnet]

exact same equipment, only difference was atmosphere

[lean magnet]

😿

[wind spoke]

nice

[spice gale]

im sry, with highschool time is limited

[lean magnet]

same

[spice gale]

then if ill buy a new phone budget will be limited

[lean magnet]

every single clear night im busy

😭

and then when i have the time to do astro

thick cloud layer

[spice gale]

so real

[lean magnet]

or transparency that makes it useless to even try

[spice gale]

only season i do astro every clear night is summer

hot outside

ppl dont heat their homes with wood = no bad atmosphere and no bad smell

[lean magnet]

hot sucks

also in summer you get like 2 hours of time to image

[spice gale]

i love it, also only season that i can go to b3

[lean magnet]

unless you have a setup that you trust to image while you sleep

[lean magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-shocked-cat-silly-cat-cat-kitten-gif-7414586676150300212

i see why you like it now

ive never been to below b5 i think 🔥

[spice gale]

i mean from 23 to 5 am you got 6h

[spice gale]

damn

[lean magnet]

yeah but i dont wanna be out at 5 am doing astro

idk why since i stay up that late anyway

[spice gale]

yeah its becoming like a tradition between me and my dad

for him to drive me to b3 every july

[wild flame]

was EXTREMELY windy when I went to my dark sky spot so I couldn't get any images other than this

tiny bit of rosette in the middle

[lean magnet]

yeah wind too

[spice gale]

lovely

[wild flame]

8 min exposure

[spice gale]

what camera

[wild flame]

rather 8 min livestack

S22 Ultra

[lean magnet]

a bit out of focus but very good

[spice gale]

rewlly

[wild flame]

I couldn't dial it in at all

[lean magnet]

i just set it to infinite in keepskycamera

[wild flame]

below freezing with gusts of 35+

my camera died from full battery before I could even start imaging

[lean magnet]

some flame nebula there too and a very dim horsehead reigon line

[spice gale]

😭

[wild flame]

oh I can show you flame from my phone

[spice gale]

always wanted to capture flame

now that i learned how to stack dso

[lean magnet]

i may not buy the s23 ultra

thinking abt just buying a guidecam instead

and staying with my s20+

[spice gale]

hmm

[wild flame]

the camera difference is more than noticable

[spice gale]

i mean if you rly need a new phone not only for astr9

[wild flame]

like I cant use my S21+ when I have my S22U

[lean magnet]

i dont really need it

its just if i get the s23 ultra

i wont upgrade for a few years

i dont like not having a telephoto

since i do zoom a lot

and i want better cameras

[spice gale]

zoom= worse quality😭

[wild flame]

nah

actual telephoto

samsung's 10x is actually good

[lean magnet]

exactly why i want to upgrade

the s20+ doesnt have a real telephoto

its "telephoto" is a 28mm 64mp

[wild flame]

thats why I love my ultra

[spice gale]

maybe upgrade

[lean magnet]

apparently the s22 ultra has heat issues or smth

[spice gale]

i rly wanted to get the s23 ultra

[wild flame]

I get to do actual deepsky with it even if it is nothing compared to a DSLR

[spice gale]

but now i switvhed to 15 pro

[lean magnet]

i would get the 22 if it wasnt for that

ill never get an iphone, not until apple starts pricing their stuff properly

[wild flame]

the Ultra's heat issues only present themselves after a long time of shooting in a humid environment

[spice gale]

lmao

[wild flame]

at least in my experience

[lean magnet]

i mean for other stuf too

[wild flame]

Iphone atp is only good for people already within it's bubble

[coral cedar]

I got comet

[lean magnet]

i dont play games on my phone that much but i still do enough that i care abt it

[coral cedar]

Lucky me

[wild flame]

I tried to,

B9 didn't let me

[lean magnet]

😔

[wild flame]

my phone does surprisingly good with actual photography

too bad the SIM slot doesn't work rn 💀

[lean magnet]

thats what i care about most

[wild flame]

thats why I strictly use it for astro

[lean magnet]

1. regular photography
2. astro
3. processor
4. everything else

what i care abt in a phone

2 is gonna be gone in a few months tho

once i buy a roki

[wind spoke]

@spice gale do u want to see my beautiful setup

with my astrograph

and camera

[wild flame]

I just like an everything phone

[lean magnet]

google pixel is prob best option then

[wind spoke]

look at this beauty

it has super fine focus control

[lean magnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009139318671015947/1043263378283581440/GIF-221116_170304.gif

what am i looking at

[wind spoke]

my telescope

its what i take all my pictures with

[spice gale]

[wind spoke]

im getting a guide scope for it

[wind spoke]

better than ur dob

[spice gale]

😭

[spice gale]

never

[wind spoke]

look at this picture i took with it

and this one

[spice gale]

stars

booooring

[spice gale]

ok this lowk good

[wind spoke]

this is my new orion that im still developing

(give a sec to send)

[spice gale]

ok

[wind spoke]

my telescope cost me a whole £8

[spice gale]

and the camera costs like my telescope and my phone combined

[wind spoke]

also im joking btw

[spice gale]

whaaaa

[wind spoke]

i have a 6" newt

[spice gale]

ik lmao

[spice gale]

realised it

[wind spoke]

should have realised from the star spikes that it was some sort of newt xD

[spice gale]

yes

was ab to say it

[wind spoke]

this is the quality of the £8 lens

[spice gale]

startrail

[spice gale]

[wind spoke]

thats made of plastic

[lean magnet]

hows your fov so big

mines this

[wind spoke]

THIS IS A PICTURE OF A STAR 💀

[lean magnet]

imx585 and 150mm newt

[wind spoke]

where?

that blue and red star is 2 stars

not star trail

[wind spoke]

i think the slight oblong shape is from incorrect colimation

[wind spoke]

incorrect colimation

just said