Phone Astrophotography

[calm sigil]

i gave up and bought a camera lol

[vapid rock]

Orion from my skies

Moon

Do y'all know how to prevent that blue diffraction thingy

[zealous edge]

Well

Basically that chromatic aberration is caused by inconsistencies in lenses, so it could be the telescope lens if you're using a refractor, or it could be the phone camera causing it.

Basically, use an actual good camera, and/or a high quality refractor.

And if you aren't seemingly made of money (like some people on this server), you can easily edit them out manually

[lean magnet]

You did capture it

[zealous edge]

alternatively, if you don't care about the color variations on the moons surface, you technically could also make it a B&W image so it's not as obvious

[potent gorge]

mmmm pixels

[zealous edge]

yummy

only image noise can sustain me

[lean magnet]

don't eat my images please

[opaque tundra]

What was ur focus point?

[floral token]

Make it like this , India does have good low light in villages

[timid wedge]

uhh idk

[bronze jackal]

Jupiter's moons captured with only the S22 Ultra 10x lens.

1/4s
ISO 1600

[bronze jackal]

Better image 2s ISO 500

[fleet bramble]

no scope?

[floral token]

yeah

[bronze jackal]

Nope, just phone

[floral token]

thats very impressive 🙂

[edgy talon]

My high ass thought the leaf blower was like an extension tube or some shit 😭😭

[bronze jackal]

2 minutes of orion low on the horizon with full moon

finally decided to try deep sky stacker out

i don't think i'll be going back to sequator

[zealous scaffold]

2 mins during a full moon?! what bortle?

[bronze jackal]

5

[zealous scaffold]

kinda wild

id be interested to see it during a night with no moon

[bronze jackal]

comparison to overprocessed sequator image

[zealous scaffold]

yeah

dont use sequator unless ur stacking with foregroudn

[bronze jackal]

i might restack all of my 10x images with dss and see how much i can improve the images

[zealous scaffold]

yeye just letting u know if u try to stack an image with foreground in dss the likelihood of it messing up is much higher

[bronze jackal]

yeah sequator tends to work fine with wider field photos

[floral token]

use siril or dss for easy stacking

[wild flame]

I'm guessing this was with an S22/23 Ultra

[bronze jackal]

Yep

[wild flame]

nice to see more people using the S22s, they're some of the best phones for standalone AP if you dont have a telescope or a phone mount

(as long as you have 20 hours to spend on a single target)

[smoky scaffold]

Xiaomi:

[wild flame]

Xiaomi is really good from what I've seen, I'm just unsure of how they perform apart from milky way or paired with a telescope

[vapid kestrel]

Samsung a55 good?

[wild flame]

from what I see, the main camera should be more than adequate for milky way shots or used with a scope

[potent gorge]

use what you have

[floral token]

dont buy a new phone just for astro

it aint worth it, rather choose a star tracker and dslr or just used dslr with tripod

[smoky scaffold]

they probably already own an a55 and are wondering if it is any use for astro

[vague shard]

Doesn't have raw so might wanna consider better options than that if you're planning to buy otherwise if you have it then you gotta make it work somehowb

[floral token]

Dp any clear skies??

[vague shard]

Nope , back in city where everything's shitty

I'll have access to clear skies in maybe decemeber end

[floral token]

lol here too dude i am tired

be ready

in india there pretty good low artifical light in villages, dont judge with just bortle class

my village in india was around bortle 5 or 4 but in compared to here in usa, its way LESS LIGHT POLLUTION ARHHH

[vague shard]

I won't have my device with me then lol, that was my best bet to get what I need but, I'll have my phone with me which is not great compared to nothing

[vague shard]

Then thing is I'm not in village, I was in my village this diwali , but now i'm back in a city so yeah

[floral token]

hm kind of disappointing but check out places near your city , but choose a place after knowing where your target will be

[floral token]

nice

[vague shard]

I'll try this out tbh , I'm still not satisfied w my data

[floral token]

not much data,

[vague shard]

They're auto stacks made by gcam, they don't seem like much but its equivalent to around 720*20s exposures

[floral token]

Oh that's a good data

The problem with my is the BIG 3 LIGHTS OF THE CHURCH

So it made more noise even though I was 2 mile away from my city core area

[coral cedar]

Ive samsung a53, ill probably say, pretty good on video

You cant take raw pic from samsung a series

[coral cedar]

Planetary was good with scope

Heres my pic of jupiter w/scope

[sick rain]

It doesn't support RAW I think

[grizzled lance]

What scope did you use?

[spice gale]

@grizzled lance can i see some of your images?

[grizzled lance]

Not the best images and it's just 1 frame

[spice gale]

hmm

the camera is not allignet to the eyepiece perfectpy

thats why the images are not the best

[coral cedar]

Celestron 80eq

[grizzled lance]

Is the picture of ring nebula like is it aligned properly

[spice gale]

not quite

when you align the camera to eyepiece perfectly you can see the edges very sharp

lemme show you an example

[floral token]

discord just mess up our photos lol]

[spice gale]

oh daaamn

well at least the edges of the eyepiece look sharp

[grizzled lance]

Ohhhhh

Didn't know that thank you so much

[spice gale]

ofc, no

[bronze jackal]

Andromeda reprocessed

vs original

[wild flame]

god I cant wait till I get to image with my phone again

[bronze jackal]

generative expand 💀 🙏

[wild flame]

so glad AI is absolutely stupid

[remote cypress]

HOW

[somber lantern]

Magic

[vapid kestrel]

What you guys think about Xiaomi 14T pro?

[spice gale]

good camera

good phone

[lean magnet]

is it a good idea to do ap with the periscope telephone lens on the s22 or s23 ultra

[fleet bramble]

im hoping to try it with my s22u but i got clouds for the foreseeable future

lmk how it goes

[coral cedar]

lets go

carina nebula 5 minutes

orion nebula 26.87 minutes

[vague shard]

Exif?

[bronze jackal]

Moon, Mars, M44

[vapid rock]

I will try getting the red planet tonight

BTW I can see the stripes of jupiter with my eye, but my phone camera can't resolve it

What's wrong

[gusty zodiac]

what does it see?

[wild flame]

could be overexposed or out of focus

[vapid rock]

Msybe

[nimble harness]

These are not bad at all

You just need a phone adapter

[bronze jackal]

Stacked image

[floral token]

stacking moon will ruin mostly.

[paper tide]

What you guys think about Xiaomi 14t pro?

[spice gale]

it has a good camera

[vague shard]

Very capable sensor

guys, should I go for a telescope and phone or dslr w telephoto lens ?

[sterile parrot]

Dslr

[wild flame]

if you're going for better quality photos in general, go DSLR and you can get a telescope later on

a lot of phone APers just do it because its fun to see what you can accomplish with it

[floral token]

Telescope (refractor)and used Dslr

[lean magnet]

What's your budget

[north spade]

Captured this, I think I did decent

[floral token]

You did good but did you stack ?

[north spade]

Nope

[floral token]

Okay what's the settings used and equipment

I might help if it's just phone

[north spade]

30 second exposure and 640 ISO

No equipment used

[floral token]

Just phone and tripod?

Okay and I surprised there's no star trailing

[north spade]

I went for 640 because the moon will rise I don't want the moon outshining the stars

[floral token]

What's the bortle class?

[zealous scaffold]

haha nice you got pleiades

[floral token]

Yeah

Might lower the exposure and use default zoom 1x

[north spade]

I don't even owe a tripod

[north spade]

And the zoom is 1x

[floral token]

I don't know how there is no star trailing in 30 seconds

But yeah Congo

[north spade]

It's supposed to be normal or smth? I'm kinda new

[floral token]

Without star tracker it's easily gets star trailing

Use 15 seconds

And take continuous many photos

[north spade]

i do NOT own any equipment just pure phone

[floral token]

Same over here but I have 20 dollar tripod

So don't worry it's really good 👍

[north spade]

I'll try later I took this yesterday

[floral token]

Yeah take as many photos as u can

It's called integration time

If you take 100 photos, one photo of 15 seconds, you will get 25 min exposure (more exposure means more light )

[red ridge]

me has mars moon thingy with a plane and then zoomed in moon

[north spade]

So I gotta set my Stutter to 15 seconds??

[floral token]

yep check the trialling

[north spade]

It's 11 am i CANNOT test this out 😔

[floral token]

at night

[north spade]

So what's my iso going to be?

[floral token]

whats your bortle class??

check it on "light pollution map" in google

write this and choose the second one

[north spade]

what's that suppose to mean

[floral token]

it shows your light pollution

[north spade]

Even at day?

Or it only includes night

[floral token]

bortle 1(darkest) is lowest- bortle 9 is brightest(bad for astrophotography)

its a past data, only light

just see dude

[vague shard]

400-500$

[north spade]

This one?

[vague shard]

This one is from 2005 iirc so might wanna switch it to trend mode to really get the idea of your bortle class in present

[north spade]

How do i

It shows red

[lean magnet]

Dslr

You can probably fit in a cheap star tracker

[floral token]

waguri

https://darksitefinder.com/map/?i=/%234/39.00/-98.00 go here, its a simple map, go check your location and say what color is it

this might be the easiest way to teaching man

[north spade]

Ight ty

It's red..

Red and orange 😔

[vague shard]

Star trackers are mad expensive where I live so I'll probably have to make one or find one in used market I'll try to find dslrs within my budget been eyeing canon 1500d withh 55-250mm lens and kit lens

[lean magnet]

I've heard 100d is good

One of my friends has one

[feral crescent]

complete beginner here - I tried taking pictures of the moon, jupiter, and saturn with my dob

it’s also been overcast here for practically two months straight and I am sobbing

[lean magnet]

Lower your exposure for jupiter and saturn

[floral token]

ohh no

then just keep 800 iso

[north spade]

I kept it to 640

[fickle mulch]

5 min exposure

Xiaomi note 8 with Gcam

[vague shard]

Gcam does a great job at stacking ngl

[spice gale]

whats gcam?

[spice gale]

who here knows how to use open live stacker?

i want to photograph jupiter and orion with this app

who here can help me take pics of orion and stack them

android phone btw

[grizzled lance]

A bit over exposed

I used honor 90 for this
B6

[spice gale]

from b6 thats insane

[dusk crow]

There is andromeda galaxy?

[grizzled lance]

Yeah

I captured Andromeda in other pics I'll send later

B4 - 5

[vague shard]

Google camera, pixel camera basically which has astrophotography mode which auto stacks and gives out an image after 4 mins

[spice gale]

wait is that for premium version only or not?

[floral token]

use low exposure, the trialling ia very much

[vague shard]

Its a mod apk for any phone basically

[north spade]

How do you stack 😭

[north spade]

How do you do this??

[pastel nexus]

You need to take a lot of pictures of the same target. Then use a stacking program like siril or dss to stack them all together. Watching a video would help

[vapid kestrel]

I used Gcam to capture it

[wild flame]

Do you have a computer?

[floral token]

Use deep sky stacker

I will send a basic tutorial for dss

[bronze jackal]

Relatively accurate bortle 5 naked eye view of Orion

[zealous scaffold]

damn you can see it super well lol

maybe im not a b6, maybe im a b7

[bronze jackal]

Can only see it like that on the best nights though

[grizzled lance]

Yeah literally looks like that form my area aswell

[north spade]

Slowly getting better

[spice gale]

it looks much better

i like how there is no noise at all, just pure clean stars

[north spade]

Thx learned from a guy to tell me about the focus

[spice gale]

this image is stacked right?

[north spade]

No

why?

[spice gale]

oh

[north spade]

I don't even know how to stack

[spice gale]

30 sec?

[spice gale]

thats what im saying

i want to learn

[north spade]

Pretty sure it's only for people who owes laptops or pcs

[spice gale]

luckly i bought a laptop

learned how to stack plsnets

with video

but not photos

of dso or stars

[lean magnet]

it's pretty easy

I explained how to add the script to stack with only lights here

#1020657687291252797 message

After that you just add the images to a folder called lights, put that folder in another folder , click the home button and open that folder, then start the script that was added

To start the script just click scripts and click the one you installed

[floral token]

I think you can do on your phone.. it wouldn't be as good and fast as a laptop or a pc but yeah you can
And if you want I can do the stacking and editing for you

[lean magnet]

i don't think you can stack on a phone

astroshader has livestacking i think but there's nothing that I know of on mobile that can stack normal images

[bronze jackal]

Compatible samsung galaxy phones have the astrophotography mode that does a 4, 7, or 10 minute stack. But i've had very mixed results from that. Not to mention the fact that they changed it about a year ago to no longer be real raw images, just over processed jpgs in a .dng container

[spice gale]

depends what phone, only tye new s models do

[bronze jackal]

yeah I should have mentioned that

[bronze jackal]

First time trying calibration frames

[spice gale]

what app

[floral token]

Hello,what are you shooting?

[bronze jackal]

attempted to shoot M36 and M38, though I doubt it will work given they're rather small and faint.

dss doesn't seem to like it so far

yeah nah that didn't work

i'll try again another time, probably on a brighter target

I did get this of Mars and M44 last night though it's not my cleanest image

also no idea what that weird purple streak is

[floral token]

Wait

Don't try to focus on planets right now

Go with 1x default zoom, change your tripod position every 10 images if using around 10 seconds of exposure, iso depends on your bortle scale and yeah please don't focus on planets rn it won't be as good as bright dson

[north spade]

I've captured Andromeda this is my current I will capture another one do you think I'll do better than before?

[floral token]

Okay now say the settings

I might make it more clear

[north spade]

S:30 ISO:800 FOCUS: INFINITY

I set my wb to auto

[floral token]

Lower the exposure

[north spade]

alright

[bronze jackal]

It does look ever so slightly out of focus

[floral token]

Make it to 20 or 15

[floral token]

Due to higher exposure

And use 1x zoom

[north spade]

My phone can only go 10,20,30 apparently

[floral token]

Use 20

And do you have a tripod?

[north spade]

No I just use something to stand my phone I'll get one soon

[floral token]

It looks like the phone is getting some shake during the exposure

[floral token]

Okay don't worry but Also clean the lens if you can

And see if there's something shaking the camera

[bronze jackal]

when you zoom in and the stars look kind of bubbly, that's how you can tell if the focus was slightly out. though that's just nitpicking as its close enough

[floral token]

Yeah it's out of focus

[north spade]

My lense are clean the light pollution is killing me

[bronze jackal]

same

[floral token]

Don't worry use 20 second exposure

[floral token]

Sad

[bronze jackal]

my current botched setup is balancing my phone on my binoculars

[north spade]

I'll try later it's cloudy

[floral token]

Let me see if I have my first Andromeda photo

[north spade]

Should I just get a Binacoulars instead of a telescope

[floral token]

No

Camera dSLR

[north spade]

I mostly find them fake ngl I have low budget

[floral token]

And star tracker or untracked with tripod

[floral token]

Yeah it will ruin it

[bronze jackal]

my sister recently got a DSLR for her photography course idk whether to ask her if i can use it for astrophotography

[north spade]

as much as I like astrography it's expensive as heck

[floral token]

Stacked and stretched

[floral token]

Yeah

[floral token]

You can but make sure you don't break anything

[north spade]

Dude whenever I edit on snap speed and maxed my structure it ends up with some ugly stars

[floral token]

It's done with random stacked and editing but yeah it's done in dss

[floral token]

Don't max it

[north spade]

Idk I won't be able to get a bit of detail if I don't

[bronze jackal]

yeah that's why i use adobe lightroom, could never wrap my head around snapseed or whatever its called

[north spade]

I'm leaning lr rn

I'll try to edit my best shot

Here

I was able to give more light to orion

[lean magnet]

Set to 4000 or 5000

[lean magnet]

Slight trails

Try 15s

[north spade]

Cant

[lean magnet]

Wait nvm I read above

Do 20s then bc 10s too low

[north spade]

Only go to 10,20,30

Ight

[lean magnet]

Btw what app

If you're on Android use deepskycamera

[bronze jackal]

Vega image from earlier this year that I forgot to process

[grizzled lance]

Cleean

[remote cypress]

4 min on the Milky Way in a bottle like 3.5 sky

[floral token]

Looks like out of focus

But still a great photo 👍

[remote cypress]

Perhaps slightly

I don’t see it hahaha

[floral token]

maybe a discord issue but nice photo ]

[ivory thunder]

hyades n plieades

[floral token]

lower the iso

also if you zoomed in it might be in only JPEG

[spice gale]

no

the speed lower it

bc you have star trail

[floral token]

yeah that also but maybe he is in light pollutiomn area so he might go on lower iso

[ivory thunder]

that's from my shaky aa hands and the fact that I balanced my phone on an empty box of mangoes to get the right angle

[ivory thunder]

wha

[spice gale]

true

[spice gale]

[ivory thunder]

wait it is

woh

[ivory thunder]

I'm not joking.

stand on the stool looking thing

[spice gale]

unlucky wjat can i say

a tripod would come in clutch

[ivory thunder]

the only tripod I have is way too wobbly for that

one slight touch and it'll shake for like a minute

[spice gale]

dam

[ivory thunder]

barely noticeable but turns stars into lines

[floral token]

tripod is the best eqiupment in phone astrophotograpphy

make sure its a sturdy one

[proper totem]

what are some of the best astrophotography phones

[lean magnet]

i need to know this too

especially with the telephoto lenses

[proper totem]

someone bless us with this info

because don’t some phones have filters that block H alpha light

is the xiaomi 14 ultra good

[potent gorge]

dont buy a phone for astrophotography specifically

[proper totem]

ik im just asking lmao

[potent gorge]

prolly a Xiaomi Mi 9T

https://www.astrobin.com/users/Lucasgoncalvesmiranda/
stuff taken with it

[proper totem]

what abt xiaomi 12

[lean magnet]

what about non xiaomi

ik xiaomi is best but I'll probably get a pixel or samsung

rn i have a s20+

[grizzled lance]

Xiaomi 12 is goof

Good

Pixel and Samsung r best

Budget phone cna work I got amazing pics

[lean magnet]

specific pixel or samsungs that are good tho?

i was thinking about s22 ultra but i might do s23+ or normal 24

I like the periscope telephoto

[zealous scaffold]

pixels are good, i wouldnt buy them specifically for AP but overall their good for daily use and the occasional AP

[lean magnet]

what about telephoto

don't they have 5x optical and they advertise same quality as 10x but it's bad

[floral token]

To be honest, any phone you use will be good if it has pro options

And if you have that money to spend on, maybe buy a dSLR and lens.

[somber lantern]

With the exception of iphone and maybe some newer Samsungs, their raw files aren't entirely raw

[floral token]

Maybe that might be case

[fiery rover]

Generally any phone that packs a modern Sony IMX sensor is considered to perform exceptionally well for astrophotography

This Luca's words

Lucas is using a patent cooler on his phone for active cooling

Some time ago he used to use Mi9t for his astro

Now he uses his Xiaomi 12

But I'm pretty sure he still uses his Mi9t at some occasions

So if ur interested in buying a phone that also performs well with astro buy a phone that doesn't overheat easily and that has a Sony IMX sensor with generous aperture to capture light

Thing with the IMX sensors put inside phones is that they are pretty similar to the IMX sensors put in professional astro cameras...which means that theoretically u could get similar results

[fiery rover]

Of course though it's not only about the sensor but the entire camera setup that's different with mobile phones and professional astro cameras...this doesn't mean though that with proper in-phone settings, a cooling patent and good editing skills u can't get pretty darn good results...proof for this is Lucas who is like a superstar on this server

Hope I was helpful enough

Also I bought a pixel 8a just a couple of weeks ago...still waiting for clear skies to test it out bruh

But when I do I'll let u guys know my impressions

But a pixel with an IMX sensor could really be ideal

Google camera proly best camera app out there

[lean magnet]

I will do that later, I already do widefield phone ap and I'm already going to buy a new phone soon and I just want it to be good at ap

I want to have the periscope telephoto tho, but s23 ultra is too expensife

s22 ultra i could do but idk

is the normal s24 good?

[proper totem]

what do the pixels even go up to

isnt 8 the newest

or no

[proper totem]

why is a pixel better than anything else

[wild flame]

Generally yes if you're just using it with an eyepiece and phone mount, but for standalone not much can beat an S22 or 23 ultra's telephoto lens

[grizzled lance]

I have S23 U it's super good I can send pictures of what I've got

[grizzled lance]

Budget phones still do quite a good job

Just look for phones that has a big sensor size

[fiery rover]

9 pro XL is the latest most expensive in the series

[fiery rover]

because of the camera app...I wrote it above if u check

[lean magnet]

Yes standalone, I'm never going back to phone+scope ap

[floral token]

i dont think for smartphones it matter much

maybe for dslr it might effect much

[lean magnet]

it does

a lot

a s9+ is terrible

while my s20+ is pretty good

even tho it's 2 phones apart

[floral token]

okay do you do ap on phone

send your fav photos, not milky way

[floral token]

...

[lean magnet]

wdym not milky way

[floral token]

if you have done any other than that

[lean magnet]

that's pretty much always gonna be in a phone widefield since nothing interesting is far from the mw band

[floral token]

mw band?

orion constellation, pleiades

[lean magnet]

yeah I've done that

its not far from the mw band

[floral token]

mw band??

[lean magnet]

mw is in my image of them

[floral token]

whats that

[lean magnet]

milky way band

[floral token]

ohh

yeah i mean milky way is probably a good idea for phone ap

but i dont get core here in northern hem

[lean magnet]

it's kinda the only thing you can do

you don't have to image the core

[floral token]

no

[floral token]

core is pretty

🥹

[lean magnet]

yeah but there's more than the core

[floral token]

we can do more than milky way

[floral token]

yeah but southern get much more area

[lean magnet]

ik but im saying everything that's interesting on phone is close to the mw band

[floral token]

send me your ap photos

[lean magnet]

so it's gonna be there

[floral token]

yeah true

[lean magnet]

that's what I mean

mw is there

[floral token]

hmmm its nice tho

mw is there but the orion and pleiades take the spotlight

when we say miky way, we mean wide field

[lean magnet]

i blew out orion core to get barnards loop

[floral token]

whats the setting and inte time>

[lean magnet]

this is wide field

[lean magnet]

i think it was 15mins of 640iso 15s exposures bortle 7

[floral token]

yeah the proccesing is not that good

[floral token]

bruh

[lean magnet]

?

[floral token]

this is what a general widefield means

[lean magnet]

yeah that's widefield and my image is too

[floral token]

thats goodd

okay okay

did you zommed in or default 1x and then cropped

[lean magnet]

crop

bc my stars at the edges are terrible

even in that image they're bad

in the uncropped version it's so bad

[floral token]

yeah mine too

let me send my orion try

[lean magnet]

my other widefield

[lean magnet]

What phone?

[floral token]

great photos grand

[floral token]

nothing phone 1

same data but different people did the processing

it was bortle 5 tho

[lean magnet]

what fl

[floral token]

uh maybe 24 mm

it was defualt zoom

so yeah that might be

and 40 min integration time, there was 4 big street light of the church so more noise compared to a bortle 5 place with no near street light

[lean magnet]

How come your fov is so small without a telephoto lens?

[proper totem]

but what makes the app so good lol

[grizzled lance]

You got that on yout phone?

[grizzled lance]

Wthhh

[lean magnet]

yes

[grizzled lance]

What phone

And bortle

[lean magnet]

s20+ bortle 7

[grizzled lance]

Nvm

Damnn

[lean magnet]

possibly bortle 8

[grizzled lance]

What settings did you use

Did it come with raw camera thing

The astrophotography node

Mode

[lean magnet]

don't use the astrophotography mode

and it doesn't even have it

[grizzled lance]

Y not

[lean magnet]

use deepskycamera

[grizzled lance]

Oh

[lean magnet]

it sucks

[grizzled lance]

That's mid

Is it even on android

[lean magnet]

it's the best android app for imaging that i know of

[grizzled lance]

Yooo

I didn't even know

[lean magnet]

bc there isn't much

the default camera app is shit

[grizzled lance]

Lmao true

I'll use dss

Dsc

[lean magnet]

so dsc is like the only other android option

nothings wrong with it

some people complain about the ui but it's fine imo

[grizzled lance]

Wair does it automatically stack got you

Fot

For

[lean magnet]

no

i use siril to stack

[grizzled lance]

Did you stack using computer

Alr I sholf be good then

[fiery rover]

Well first of all Google camera has proly the best postprocessing AI out of any other camera app out there

[grizzled lance]

Google pixel is real good

[lean magnet]

not useful for ap

[lean magnet]

yes

you cant stack on android

[grizzled lance]

😭

[lean magnet]

it's easy

[grizzled lance]

Did you use just use phone or telescope

[lean magnet]

just phone

[grizzled lance]

Wtf man

Goated

[lean magnet]

i will never do phone+telescope again

such a pain

[grizzled lance]

I'm impressed

[grizzled lance]

You get good results trust me

[lean magnet]

i did it for a few months

i will never ever go back

[grizzled lance]

Its a pain but I've got good results without even aligning it properly

[grizzled lance]

😂

Trust me it gets good

[lean magnet]

why should i even go back

i have a astrocam now

i have no reason to lol

[grizzled lance]

Good point

Yeah phone and telescope can be a hassle

But yk it is what it is

Lemme send whta I've got

[lean magnet]

a lot of the pain was from my specific setup tho

[grizzled lance]

I'll send like 3 pics

[lean magnet]

helical focuser with uneven weight on it is just begging for the focuser to slip, happened a lot

and also mount that refuses to function properly

[grizzled lance]

Wait

One of tmwn wrong pic

[grizzled lance]

Alr

What

[lean magnet]

this was 5 mins i think

[grizzled lance]

Did you get that using astro cam

Damnn

[lean magnet]

no

phone

[grizzled lance]

wtf

Shut up mate

No way

[lean magnet]

it was supposed to be 150x20s

[grizzled lance]

Nah that ainr phone

[lean magnet]

it is

[grizzled lance]

Is it staxked

[lean magnet]

look at the ca

yes

[grizzled lance]

How did you track it

[lean magnet]

it was the one time my dumbass mount decided to function

[grizzled lance]

What mount

[lean magnet]

virtuoso gti

i have to fight with it for an hour minimum every time I use it to force it to work

[grizzled lance]

Ohh

Stacking is so op

[lean magnet]

but m51 set behind my roof

[grizzled lance]

I should try it

[lean magnet]

You def need to

[grizzled lance]

B7

[lean magnet]

This looks way better than my individual subs

[grizzled lance]

Yeah I got the dust lanes using another phone in b6

[lean magnet]

Andromeda is just a faint Grey patch for me

[grizzled lance]

30 sec exposure and like 1600 iso

[lean magnet]

Mw is invisible

[grizzled lance]

I agree

[grizzled lance]

Its somewhat visible for me

[lean magnet]

Ik it's obvious in your pic

[grizzled lance]

Stacking is so op

[lean magnet]

Wait are u talking about visual or image

[grizzled lance]

Visuao

B5 to 4

[lean magnet]

You can see it visual??

oh

[grizzled lance]

Yup

It looked like

[lean magnet]

I have never seen it😿

[grizzled lance]

A faint line

With darker sides

But it's not like you cna see the whole thing

Its defo visible tho

Do you live in the UK?

[lean magnet]

No

I hope I'll see it this year tho

I'll try and get to a dark sky this summer

[grizzled lance]

I'll send a pic of what I can see rn

Hold on

Weather is quite good rn

[lean magnet]

i just see grey at night

[grizzled lance]

This is what I cna see

B5

And this is like

If I wanna take long exposure image

Its still kind a crap

Light pollution is bad

Andromeda is barely visible but it looks like a smudge

[floral token]

It's cropped

[lean magnet]

How did you get so much detail then

[floral token]

😉

It's just integration time and because of bortle scale 5

2015 data

Also I changed it's position frequently like every 20-30 photos so I can get more details on corners but even with that I lost many side details and due to street light just beside me, also Gave boost to noise

Hopefully next time I will change the place to more dark place without any Street light near that church but without that i am risking my life to dangerous situations

[proper totem]

man my phone sucks for ap

it’s a regular iphone 13

no pro

the camera just auto denoises the shit out of every image

[dusk crow]

I also have the same IPhone 13 this is one of the best pictur

[dusk crow]

b6 skys

[lean magnet]

it's not tho

[floral token]

what do you mean?

[lean magnet]

if you got 1000 hrs int time on andromeda with a 100mm fl you aren't gonna have more detail than 10h int time at 2500mm fl

because you can't resolve it

[floral token]

its 40 min of integration. 10 seconds*250 light frames

[lean magnet]

int time helps with signal

[floral token]

yeah

[lean magnet]

not sharpness

[floral token]

i mean i dont have answers for that cause "it is what it is" situation

maybe bortle scale

helped me

[lean magnet]

Wait nvm

[floral token]

and he migt did drizzle

[lean magnet]

It's bc nothing phone 1 only has 2 lenses, 1 ultra wide and 1 50mp wide

[floral token]

i used wide not ultra wide

[lean magnet]

My phone does 64mp wide but it's not the main camera so mine was only 12mp

Ii

Ik

[floral token]

nothing phone 1 camera is not special in any way

[lean magnet]

Deepskycamera only uses your main lens

[lean magnet]

the main camera is 50mp

[floral token]

i didnt used deek sky camera

[lean magnet]

what did u use them

then

[floral token]

procamx

free for andriod

it helped me with continous shots

[lean magnet]

is it meant for astro

[floral token]

intervals

nah

it is same as orginal camera but has settings for interval

i dont pay, i am broke( university student)

[lean magnet]

deepskycamera is free

[floral token]

well i dont need that

but thanks for suggetion

[lean magnet]

It's just that some apps don't take real raws

like samsungs pro mode processes their raws

[floral token]

hmm nah this was raw

[floral token]

omg

[lean magnet]

so if that app processes their raws it wouldn't be good

[floral token]

let me check, i dont think they proccess but let me check

[lean magnet]

Idk tho, I never used that app

[floral token]

its a good app doesnt give any problems

[lean magnet]

Reason I say it might be processed is bc this looks a bit off

[floral token]

sometimes its a editing thing

he did 2x drizzle

and its cropped

[lean magnet]

it's the 50mp sensor

[floral token]

its not much about phone trust me

if its give raw its good

[lean magnet]

It is to

tho

[floral token]

for others not for me

trying to push the limits of phone is what makes me in interested in phone astrophotography. even i had old phone i would do it

[lean magnet]

yeah it's still heavily dependent on what phone you have

[zealous scaffold]

This is taken with the pixel 9 pro fold camera on its own, it's about 30 mins of data, no tracking, no tripod, just the phone and stacking and processing software

[zealous edge]

interesting colors

[zealous scaffold]

I like saturation

Here's a more dull one

[floral token]

ngl the dull looks better, the other one looks kind overproccesed but still both are great photos congo

[zealous scaffold]

I don't like the dull lol, I prefer more color

Idk it's just more appealing to the eye imo, I even asked my photography teacher and he said he likes the saturated one more

[floral token]

It's looks unreal*

[lean magnet]

imo the more dull one is good and the saturated one is extremely oversaturated and i always oversaturate my stuff

[zealous scaffold]

heres one with a starmask applied

(the saturation looks a lil diff on different devices for me so on my pc it def looks a little oversaturated)

[bronze jackal]

the stars look wierd on that one

less natural

[zealous scaffold]

It's a star mask so I removed all the stars then overlayed the brighter ones on it so it was less cluttered

[slow depot]

does anyone here use astroshader?

[lean magnet]

https://discord.com/channels/794642864218439681/1047623389898088579

[slow depot]

thank you!

[zealous edge]

I do exclusively

[remote cypress]

yes

[north spindle]

🔥

[kindred zephyr]

Redmi note 8 pro + astromaster 70az, 900mm focal length (20mm eyepiece)

Redmi note 8 pro sensor - 1/1.76inch 64mp
For anyone wondering

[kindred zephyr]

What is the size of your phones main sensor?

Oh it's stacked so nvm

[lean magnet]

idk

Idk whee to check

[floral token]

Google it

[lean magnet]

I did

It didn't show me the mm x mm size

[floral token]

What's yo phone name?

[lean magnet]

s20+

[floral token]

64mp telephoto

[lean magnet]

no

i can't use the telephoto

main camera

12mp

[floral token]

why?

[lean magnet]

deepskycamera hasn't added lens switching support yet

and it's not a real telephoto

the fov is the same

it's just higher resolution

[floral token]

hmm

[lean magnet]

?

[floral token]

🫡🤣

[lean magnet]

[zealous scaffold]

im still waiting for this too lmfao

[wild flame]

deepskycamera plus samsung's 10x would go so hard

[iron bear]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-umm-chile-anyways-gif-2259936602289648860

[iron bear]

The developer will release the Pro version this December. But I'm not sure if it will already come with the option to switch lenses in this version.

[timid wedge]

might have resolved a mag 18 star

[floral token]

oh mahh gawd, i just remeber you the LUCAS, i saw your milky way photo from astrobin and it was amazing..... i also do phone ap but didnt get much good sessions( only one). i dont have a mount like you but still its fun to do with simple tripod.

[iron bear]

New toy

[gusty zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-skull-transformers-bruhhh-bruh-meme-gif-26086522

[floral token]

lucas, do you plan to use phone ap for different targets like orion constellation and other specified targets?? heres my first try of orion constellation. ( i am damn sure you will nail it)

and if you have tricks for phone and tripod ap?? please let me know and also let me know if i did anything wrong..

phone: nothing phone 1

iso: 800, exposure: 10 seconds, integration time : 41min 40sec

[grizzled lance]

What bortle and telescope?

Nvm

[timid wedge]

b4 6" dob

[grizzled lance]

Bortle 4?!?!

I could actually do that then

I'm impressed

[timid wedge]

thx

[grizzled lance]

Did you use a phone to take the pic?

[timid wedge]

ofc wanna see the whole pic?

[grizzled lance]

Yeahh

Show me

[grizzled lance]

😍

Stacked?

[timid wedge]

im tryna push phone ap to the liimits

[timid wedge]

3600x1sec exposures

[grizzled lance]

I haven't done orion nebula but I did other objects

[grizzled lance]

Damnnn

Oh yeah cuz you have a dobsonian

I'm very impressed

Also how can you tell if you properly aligned your phone to the eyepiece

[timid wedge]

it was a huge pain to get that many subs

[timid wedge]

i just increese the iso a lot and then adjust the alignment until the pic is brightest

[grizzled lance]

I can relate lmao everytime when I take a pic and it's blurry I have to go inside and fix the phone with the eyepiece

[grizzled lance]

Alr ill do that in December holiday only time I'm free

[timid wedge]

also all the pics have to be almost perfectly alligned with eachother

or else kaboom

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[grizzled lance]

I have a few good pics but I don't even know if it's aligned properly

I have this one but someone said the edge have to be really sharp to be aligned

Its mid pic there's noise

[floral token]

this is amazing nick. one of the best photo i have ever seen using phone

should i download deepskycamera for phone ap? does it have lot of bugs?

[timid wedge]

idk, never used it, people say its better than astroshader but i disagree

[floral token]

why?

[timid wedge]

why ive never used it or y people say its better

[floral token]

if you didnt used, how would you know??

its a comparison sentence lol

[timid wedge]

i have never seen a good pic taken with deep sky cam

[floral token]

🤣

[timid wedge]

or atleast better than astroshader

[floral token]

okay i will try both

does astroshader cost anything??

[timid wedge]

u got an iphone?

[floral token]

nah nothing phone 1

so astroshader is just for iphone

[timid wedge]

im afraid astroshader is only for iiphones

[timid wedge]

only a new phone

[floral token]

oh no problem

i already have a app already that i trust but i want to try deep sky camera as it has more features the app i have

[timid wedge]

can it sstack?

[floral token]

no i stack on deep sky stacker and edit in siril

[timid wedge]

astroshader stacks and edits

[floral token]

nice

i bet dss and siril will crush it tho '

so doesnt matter much '

[timid wedge]

will u ever get a telescope?

[floral token]

yes but not rn i have university fees to pay for

[lean magnet]

doesn't Lucas use deepskycamera

[somber lantern]

3 second from b9 looking better than any other I've taken

[lean magnet]

more

[iron bear]

Yep!

I need to make a widefield of the southern Milky Way, capturing Carina. It's the only one I haven't done yet with the Mi12. I only have a very old one with the Mi9T on a fixed tripod. I want to do it with the mount

I'm going to capture some better DSOs now with the telescope. I got a much better mount, so it will handle my telescope better. My old one was blurring my photos when it was windy.

[floral token]

Nice

[robust fog]

Reminds me of May

Good times lol

[robust fog]

Yes you can!!

Eagle Image Stacker, baby! 😁

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tssystems.librawtest

On a side note

Shot on Pixel 8 Pro, 115mm

Looks hella better without compression

[north spindle]

It is lol

[floral token]

It's pretty niceee😀

[floral token]

I still don't know how to take time lapse

😆

[coral cedar]

Man i use eagle stacker image, and its wonderful

User friendly

[floral token]

use deep sky stacker if you have laptop or pc. its free

[wild flame]

oh I guess an app exists now, got any stacked results?

[robust fog]

#MotionCamPromasterrace

[robust fog]

EIS is comparable tho, even has calibration frames integration (darks, flats)

[robust fog]

I use motioncam for shooting/acquisitions and timelapses, EIS for stacking

All of the above are pixel 8 pro, with 115mm lens

[robust fog]

Welp, it looks horrible here

[wild flame]

thats actually really good for phone software

might be good for me in a pinch or im too lazy to transfer files

[robust fog]

It's super convenient and elegant

[somber lantern]

Aw it costs $10

Really interesting though

[robust fog]

Yes, it's not free unfortunately but tbh I am a mobile only enthusiast

[somber lantern]

If I had money maybe

[robust fog]

With a kid I appreciate the impromptu nature of being able to work and resume on my stuff

On the go

At any moment

It does average stacking too for normal pics

And I've seen some use it for HDR and focus stacking even though not originally meant for it

[somber lantern]

Sounds useful not only if you don't have a computer also if you don't have the time to do all of it

[robust fog]

Exactly

[somber lantern]

Ooo

[robust fog]

Good to preview data too

Stacks fast

[coral cedar]

Imma try on my 70 gig raw data

Its seems useful you know without sacrificing your storage

[robust fog]

I've tried some large amounts, curious if it can take on that 😄

I've done a few gigs worth of MotionCam raw video when trying moon shots and such, worked fine

[coral cedar]

Wait you can insert video?

[robust fog]

Unfortunately no, but I've shot raw video which then I exported into individual DNGs

So mad amounts of files and sizes dumped to it

[coral cedar]

Ohhh i see

Yeah yeah seems nice

[grizzled lance]

Guys is it possible to take a video of a planet and get like a stacked image from it

[spice gale]

yes

that is what all of us phone ap-ers do

i can teach you if you want

@grizzled lance

[robust fog]

Yes

Lucky imagining

[robust fog]

Use the motioncam demo and burst that beech

Raw video, 5 second limiter on demo but let's say 30fps

150 dngs/5 seconds

Go Brtt

[potent gorge]

yes. thats how planetary astro works.

[floral token]

Any tips for geminid meteor shower with phone and tripod

?!

Like what should we take video or long exposure, shot exposure?

[wild flame]

I'm guessing you're shooting with your main camera and not a telephoto

if so, I'd say 10 second exposures is good

unless you want to shoot a timelapse of course

but if you're going for one single stacked image, shoot it like you would normally shoot a milky way picture

lower ISO maybe to see if you can get more color out of the trails (dont know if this is true but it's good to experiment)

[floral token]

which would be better, timelapse or just single 10 second expsoure

wouldnt the exposure make things worse?? sorry if it doesnt make sense. i dont know how to do timelapse so confused

[wild flame]

its really 2 different results

it just boils down to do you want a video or picture

[floral token]

hmm what is most preffered and succesful to capture showers>

[wild flame]

both can do amazing things

[floral token]

hmm

[wild flame]

the timelapse is generally easier

[floral token]

like 10 seconds will make meteor trails right

[wild flame]

but in my opinion the stacked image is absolutely beautiful

[floral token]

hmm

so continous 10 second expsoure

thanks for helping

[wild flame]

well meteor trails are bright enough to be picked up by exposures as short as probably hundredths of a second

mhm no problem

[floral token]

but theres clouds when its peak

😭

[wild flame]

just gotta sift through the clear ones

[floral token]

so maybe tommorow

[floral token]

??

[wild flame]

and if it's scattered, you can just do a timelapse

[floral token]

yeah lets see

[wild flame]

clear exposures that is*

[floral token]

atleast i want to see one with naked eye

[wild flame]

on the topic, someone actually got a hall of fame picture by doing that

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/893213110574383124/1302772873441841213/perseid1.png?ex=67542e09&is=6752dc89&hm=001c29690a04c2d307b7e6c875f9a8bc890a233334a7eb8a11b9cc00922ca3e8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=455&height=676

[floral token]

i saw this one

so this are like different photos stack

it seems odd to me ngl 💀

[wild flame]

mhm, basically what you would do with a normal astrophoto

[floral token]

didnt liked much

[wild flame]

well you're trying to cram as much information as possible into one picture and this is the best way to do it

[floral token]

no noooo

i dont want to do that

😅

not for meteor showers

[wild flame]

I dont see what you're getting at...

so your goal is a timelapse

[floral token]

yeah thats the best bet

[floral token]

sorry i got confused

[wild flame]

no worries

[floral token]

like its cool but seems odd right

[wild flame]

your phone's timelapse feature should just do the trick

honestly it's more unique than odd

[floral token]

i have to learn how to do that so i will practise tonight

[wild flame]

something you dont see often

[floral token]

yeah its unique and i appretiate it

[coral cedar]

Finally orion nebula 30 minutes

Still need more data

[grizzled lance]

I did 30 sec exposure and 3200 Iso 8 got 2 meterorites but some star trails

[coarse spoke]

This is the reprocess of one hour of completely untracked data (means the phone just stayed still, i didn't even reframe, and at the time I got this data I didn't know that would cause weird stacking artifacts, mainly the dark lines you see). This was in Bortle 6 and the gradients in the final stack were so horrible it needed not one but two gradient removals. Also there was more noise than signal so GraXpert's denoise went brrrr on this, it did a great job, but it probably hallucinated a few stars along the way lol. But yeah, this data is terrible to deal with, Bortle 6 really ain't it for untracked milky way, but at least i got something out of it.

Xiaomi 11T Pro, Bortle 6. Sequator, GraXpert, GIMP

[spice gale]

nice, what phone?

[spring viper]

Exos2 is really good mount, better than SW eq5

[iron bear]

Yes, it has a bearing on the DEC axis (unlike the EQ5), and its structure is also more robust. I will use it with OnStep

[lean magnet]

It is?

I thought it had some issue

[lean magnet]

I might get that then, I was planning on getting an eq5 and onstepping it

[elder birch]

Re-edit of a shot from last year. iPhone13: 50x, 4s, ISO 3000

(Second attempt after some funky discord compression)

[iron bear]

What I know is that sometimes they come with more backlash than the EQ5. But it’s very easy to adjust.
Mine came without backlash

I think the issues are more related to the stock motorized version of it. Since I’ll be using OnStep, I won’t have those gears that connect the motor to the axes. Those cause a lot of backlash.
That’s why there’s the pulley upgrade kit for the HEQ5 Pro

[floral token]

Yo Lucas what's up

[iron bear]

🫡

[lean magnet]

So since I'm planning to onstep whatever I get since pro version is too expensive I shouldn't have any issue?

also btw, is onstep hard to install? I know like nothing about it

[iron bear]

If it comes like mine exos, then no. I haven’t motorized mine yet, but since I modified an entire generic EQ3 to install OnStep, I already have an idea of how it will perform. For my setup, the Exos is very stable. Testing it with the knobs, the movement is quite smooth. Way more smooth than mine eq3

[lean magnet]

pretty much anything will be better than my current mount

so even if it does have backlash issues i could fix that later

[iron bear]

And I used to guide with around 0.80 total error on the EQ3, which was already very good.
It just wasn’t stable for my OTA when it was windy or even with a light breeze.

[lean magnet]

what abt unguided?

im planning to use it for a bit without guiding

[iron bear]

It's easy. The Exos even has a ready-made OnStep kit for sale on AliExpress

[iron bear]

Considering that the movement of the knobs is very smooth, there’s no reason for it to perform poorly without guiding. It should maintain the correct tracking speed well. I plan to install OnStep on it this month. When I test it, I’ll let you know here

[lean magnet]

could u send a link if u have it?

i don't see it