Phone Astrophotography

[potent gorge]

And the point still stands

[shy snow]

How about the new 585mc pro?

[potent gorge]

Tiny

It's half the size of the 533

[shy snow]

Isnt the rectangle bigger than the square?

[iron bear]

Very small sensor. I would prefer to continue taking photos on my cell phone

[potent gorge]

It's a small sensor

[shy snow]

Imo phone best

Can change magnification by changing eyepiece

Got the whole imaging circle

[iron bear]

571

[shy snow]

Try the 585 on the sim

[iron bear]

My field here with eyepiece

[iron bear]

My phone in direct focus would have basically the same field

here...

[shy snow]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[shy snow]

So its the size of a phone sensor

[iron bear]

yep

[potent gorge]

585 is slightly smaller

[shy snow]

Better using a phone than 585

[potent gorge]

[iron bear]

It is wider, but the sensor height is smaller

Xiaomi 14u Lyt 900 sensor

[somber lantern]

Where do you get the sensor specifications

[simple crow]

A Google search gives an answer

"Xiaomi 14 ultra sensor"

[somber lantern]

Man I can't find mine

[somber lantern]

Also that's a massive sensor

Wth

[somber lantern]

Nvm found it

[simple crow]

Yeah

[iron bear]

https://www.deepskycamera.de/en/smartphones_app_detail_nightmode.php?fbclid=IwAR0zgSTSxktYq0Fzi9PPrQD3Qvc2vUOtMB9X89_1ffmNeq-5TjAnGD44WWs

Here

[formal notch]

my phone is taking 1 sec to capture 1/3 sec exposures any way in deepskycamera app so that it dosent do that?

is it cause of my resolution?

its 4208x3120

[nimble harness]

Deepskycamera does that for every image. I don't think you can change that

[formal notch]

You have that issue too?

[nimble harness]

Well it's not really an issue. It is just a part of the process

[formal notch]

Oh I see

Thats umm bad

[formal notch]

How long is your max exposure

[nimble harness]

Well I can only do 1.6 second exposures but I am pretty sure it can go up to 150secs if that is what you are asking.

I am untracked so that is why they are so short

[formal notch]

I see

It still takes 1sec for 1.6 sec exposure?

[nimble harness]

It does that for everyone

[formal notch]

Cool

But my ratio is horrible

Shooting 1hr and getting only a third of that

Less than third

[nimble harness]

Same

I will shoot like 15 minutes of data and it only uses 8 mins in dss

[formal notch]

How much noise is there on a images taken with Deepskycamera?

Can u show one of your subs taken with it ?

[nimble harness]

Quite a bit actually so you need a LOT of integration

This is a mid frame though

[formal notch]

Oh yeah similar with mine

[simple crow]

Do you have any raw files for these cool pictures you take

[shy snow]

Ig he uploaded a dataset

#1020657687291252797 message

[formal notch]

Should I do it?

[shy snow]

Do it

[formal notch]

Oki

[gusty zodiac]

Unless you're trying to focus on Scorpius, I'd personally include a little more of Sagittarius

[ivory thunder]

moon

[formal notch]

Like this?

The thing is i need some bright stars for alignment and stuff

Antares and the tail of scorpion would probably be bright enough

[gusty zodiac]

yeah

[gilded relic]

Guys

Can I ask something from you al

It's been a while that my laptop had broken down so I still haven't managed to edit my last vedio of Saturn.
I would be pleased if any of you could do that for me

I think I have to send it with my Gmail or something , yeah?

[formal notch]

Yeah sure

[gilded relic]

But it's 936.66 MB

[formal notch]

Use Google drive if possible plz

[gilded relic]

How can I send this ?

2160x3840

[formal notch]

Go to Google drive press on + button then upload then change from restricted access to all
Then share link with me

[gilded relic]

Alright

[gilded relic]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V-KcZmuv2UR2j6Zd-wsblw9iZUE0XLSE/view?usp=drivesdk

This is the link mate

Is it okay to put it here guys?

Do I violate any rules?

Guys please don't mind the sound

[smoky scaffold]

nope, in fact there’s a dedicated channel for sharing data

you might need to add it to your channel list

[left coyote]

please use #1021002743080558642 to share data

[gilded relic]

Okay sure I'll put it there too

Please don't remove this one because @formal notch maybe won't find it

[potent gorge]

Why are you so scared lol

[tulip geyser]

He thinks the mods are uptight brown nosers

@gilded relic you’ll live brother

[nimble harness]

Ahhh scary mods!!!

[formal notch]

Okay

Starting processing

data looks good

[formal notch]

old orion thru phone

[edgy talon]

You going bye bye from here soon?

[iron bear]

No. Never

[edgy talon]

Good

[iron bear]

I'm only going to get an Astrocam in two years and even if i get, I'll continue taking photos with my phone.

[iron bear]

Widefield Milkyway

• I did this photo with @ricardolomonaco and @fabriciohenrique_g

📋Exif:
📷 Xiaomi 12 (Imx 766), fixed tripod
⚙ 80x20s ISO 400 stacked at pixinsight, foreground stacked at photoshop with just 3x55s shots and to not blur my friend, i did a single 10s iso 800 shot. Same framing in all three, I just changed the exposure time...
📌 Munhoz, Brazil. Bortle 4

starless

[nimble harness]

I am convinced it is impossible for you to take bad images

Stunning work 👏

[iron bear]

Thanks!!

[iron bear]

Check the old ones 💀

2020

[nimble harness]

Still amazing work

[patent zodiac]

Yeah no, at this point im scared what is going to stop you.

[nimble harness]

Fr

[opaque tundra]

Great image, quick question how do you know what iso number to go for?

[shy snow]

@iron bear this you?

Nice haircut

[smoky scaffold]

Bro just doxxed a man for fun

[iron bear]

Yes, with 16-17 years old

[iron bear]

I learned by testing. Currently I just put it in and I already know +- how the result will come out
But I only use iso 400 or 800 on the mi12; It catches a lot of light, so it doesn't make much sense to go higher than ISO 800

[opaque tundra]

ah ok

i have an iphone and it def doesnt catch as much light as your phones

[opaque tundra]

what program did you stack this pic in

[formal notch]

your data is BIG just saving 20% of it is 60 GB

my pc cant handle that

can someone else help him plz

cropped to 900x900

[shy snow]

Deep humans stacker

[shy snow]

@gaunt kiln do your whole siril workflow on this thing

[patent zodiac]

Nahhh you did not need to do him like that

[coral cedar]

Saturn with svbony 10mm with celestron 80eq

[gilded relic]

Guys just a reminder

[gilded relic]

.

[gilded relic]

It's alright mate just try your best

Or just do it the way you like

My laptop can't handle it neither 😮‍💨😅

[iron bear]

https://www.astrobin.com/pg4xf4/

My new astrobin

I'll post my photos there. maybe I can get a top pick or something with my cell phone. It would be unprecedented for a phone astrophoto

[vague shard]

Don't you run into hot pixels problem in raw ? And how did you even managed to process with such detail , I stacked around 100 images 15s exposure iso 800 but all I got was this , less detail around the core , its a panorama but the core was shot in my earlier session

I tried processing with dss but it turned out shitty , this one is processed with sequator with inbuilt light pollution reducer

Especially on colours , a short post processing guidance would be very helpful

And yeah that bright glow in the core region and separation from the sky.

[somber lantern]

Hot pixels are usually removed when stacking

And I think there's a phone quality difference mixed with different processing methods

[iron bear]

My cell phone has few hotpixels and I use pixinsight; So the rejection of pixinsight stacking solves a good part of the hotpixels that remained after calibration with darks

[nimble harness]

The great Lucas nebula

[iron bear]

This blend will be difficult. Hard mode blend 💀

This dob will probably blur the entire background after stacking.

[formal notch]

done

1st one is 100% stack and last one is 90

if you want i could do 50 too

[gilded relic]

Yes please mate

[vague shard]

Oh and how do you pop those colours so much, like your milkyway stands out more from the rest of the sky

And how do you deal with gradient

[gilded relic]

@iron bear hello

Sir , I have request from you and I would be pleased if you accept it

Will you process my data and share the results please?
And please tell me how you do it ?

For example on what percentage do you stack in Autostakkert

[vague shard]

At this point you should make a tutorial on whole process lucas

[vague shard]

got myself pixinsight

and damn its confusing

[potent gorge]

You have no idea what you're doing

[coral cedar]

Saturn 2nd try

[vague shard]

Its not like I've spent 300 euros , I just got it 🤷‍♂️

[opaque tundra]

free trial?

[vague shard]

I have seem so many photographers get those kinds of result but I thought that it was due to large sensor size but lucas managed to do it with phone so I thought maybe its the post processing

[vague shard]

You can say that

[nimble harness]

Also the fact that he has a cooled Xiaomi pro

And he takes very long exposures

[potent gorge]

You also don't use pixinsight for planetary processing

[nimble harness]

Use registax

[vague shard]

As he mentioned above those are 80 20s exposures , but if its a custom cooled then I can understand less noise

[nimble harness]

Also xiaomi lol

So ++

[vague shard]

Hmm interesting , so these details are the best I could get from my sensor

[nimble harness]

What camera

[vague shard]

I have a realme narzo 50 pro, samsung S5KGM1ST sensor

[nimble harness]

Oh

[vague shard]

These two are identical sensors

[nimble harness]

What camera though

Idk the sensors lol

[vague shard]

Also @iron bear can you share what the image looked right after stacking please?

[vague shard]

Its a phone man

[vague shard]

Realme narzo 50 pro

Did you use grahxpert denoise lucas ?

[gilded relic]

.

[nimble harness]

Lucas is very popular these days

[vague shard]

Could be that I didn't use a tracker for this particular one so that could be the issue with thisone

[tulip geyser]

Spot the DSO

[smoky scaffold]

ring neb

[tulip geyser]

Yes!

[opaque tundra]

Almost the same size the star lol

[tulip geyser]

Almost impossible to align it with the skies I had and with anything other than this magnification

[opaque tundra]

thats fine at least you captured it

[iron bear]

Basically DBE + Masked strech and curves

The sky had low contrast that night. There were clouds all over the sky

[iron bear]

Single at right

With no clouds, my stacks usually look´s like this

[iron bear]

I have low experience in processing planets. I only know how to process well Dso

[tribal abyss]

What app you use?

@iron bear what is a good app to use when doing Phone Astrophotography

[potent gorge]

astroshader is pretty good

[tribal abyss]

What type apple or android?

[potent gorge]

ios

[tribal abyss]

Rip I am android Dx

[iron bear]

Deepskycamera

[tribal abyss]

Do u use it?

[iron bear]

Yes, it's the only one I use

[tribal abyss]

Show me some photos pls

[potent gorge]

look at his astrobin lol

[tribal abyss]

Cause when I use it I get this

[iron bear]

it´s a samsung phone?

[tribal abyss]

Motorola

[iron bear]

my last photo

[tribal abyss]

How...

[iron bear]

Did you do it in raw?

[tribal abyss]

Raw for what?

I do whites then Blacks then I stack

But I forgot what app I used to stack since I deleted it awhile back

[iron bear]

For stacking, it is mandatory to use the raw format. Jpeg doesn't work

[tribal abyss]

What app u use for stack

[iron bear]

Pixinsight

[tribal abyss]

Android?

[iron bear]

Windows

[tribal abyss]

Oh so your not full phone?

[iron bear]

It is not possible to take photos with very good quality by processing and stacking them on your cell phone

[zealous scaffold]

Phone AP for the most part means taking the images with a phone, stacking and processing is pretty difficult without doing it on a laptop/pc

[tribal abyss]

Hm

[iron bear]

I use my cell phone like I would use a camera; I make the frames in raw and send everything to the computer

[tribal abyss]

Like u send it to you laptop from what

I forgot how to do it

[zealous scaffold]

You should just be able to plug your phone charger into your laptop and then plug it into your phone and access the files of your phone from the laptop and move all the data over like that

[tribal abyss]

Alright 👍

I don't have a laptop so I will probably use my friends 💀

[iron bear]

I transfer via local network with the Xiaomi app. My internet is very fast, so it doesn't take long. But you can do it via USB cable too

[zealous scaffold]

Alternatively you could find a phone adapter for a thumb drive and use that to store your images but I prefer the phone charger method

[tribal abyss]

Mk

[zealous scaffold]

Idk how library computers work but if your allowed to install processing and stacking software on them you could prob do it like that too

[potent gorge]

should note that you need to buy pixinsight

its like ~$350usd

[zealous scaffold]

you dont gotta use pixinsight tho

[potent gorge]

defo

[iron bear]

Siril is a good alternative.

[potent gorge]

yep. i use siril for stacking majority of the time

[lean magnet]

i was doing 2s exposures in deepskycamera on mw without realising, i just changed it to 5s bc i saw, can i stack the whole 2s and 5s together or can different exposure settings not be stacked together

[vague shard]

This particular stack was done in sequator and stars were removed with starnet.
++

[vague shard]

This cleared my doubts man, thank you very much , appreciate it

[atomic rampart]

The sensor doesnt really matter what matters is pixel size unless you do only nebulas which suck in a bortle 9 sky the sensor should be fine

[potent gorge]

i never said the sensor was bad, its infact one of the best on the market.

pixel size mainly matters for your sampling

[atomic rampart]

By bining your pixels you get the same effect as adding a reducer to your telescope albeit you dont get a smaller fov you only get a faster telescope at the same fl

[potent gorge]

also the sensor is too small for lucas, hence he wants an APS-C

[atomic rampart]

I suppose but you could always do a mosaic

[potent gorge]

have you done a mosaic before?

[atomic rampart]

No only because i haven't got my telescope and mount fixed it has so many problems and i also want to get cooling before i get anything crazy

[potent gorge]

this is wrong.
binning is dividing the image size to help oversampling. you arent reducing your focal length. a reducer does

[atomic rampart]

I said it keeps the same fl

Fl is focal lenght

[potent gorge]

youll find out very quickly mosaics arent the most fun to do often

[atomic rampart]

Yeah also his phone is pretty good

Why try to fix something thats not broken

[potent gorge]

processing wise im refering to

[atomic rampart]

You are increasing the area of each pixel thus each pixel gathers more light just like a reducer

Albeit with a reducer the physical size of the pixel remains the same

[tulip geyser]

.

[shy snow]

.

[smoky scaffold]

iPhone 15 Pro
Bortle 4
40x20s

im going to make it look a little better tomorrow

30s exposure with the stock iPhone camera app

[tulip geyser]

I’m going to attempt; my skies are finally showing some brighter parts of the Milky Way

I’m so happy I got ring neb as well

Any other targets I should attempt?

[spring viper]

Seeing was 🤮

[formal notch]

Not baad

Looks good

You can do ina probably

[tulip geyser]

@smoky scaffold

Can I send u my data?

It’s a wide field and idk how to edit it properly

I’ll post it here for anyone

[nimble harness]

Nah that's sick

[nimble harness]

Better than mine with an uncollimated newt

[spring viper]

Thanks

[nimble harness]

I need a barlow

[terse smelt]

damn

[rare finch]

Advice needed. With a 3hr drive, I can have bortle 1, a new moon, and no trees or mountains for my first try at astrophotography with my S23 on the Milky Way.. Planning on trying Astro and Pro mode, but hoping for any tips that will make the drive over as successful as possible. Thx!

[lean magnet]

install deepskycamera

and also try astrophotography at home before you go

[pastel nexus]

deepskycamera should allow you to take pictures in raw and adjust the iso + exposure time. Which is very important

You should mess around with it first before going. Because you don't want to be there in a dark sky and have the wrong settings

[lean magnet]

you're bringing a tripod too right

[rare finch]

I'm bring 2 tripods, the phone, my cute little seestar, and hope to be able to apply my whole month of pixinsght experience to whatever I bring back.

[opaque tundra]

Noice, what phones this taken with

[lean magnet]

s20+

[lean magnet]

150x8s 1600 iso

[opaque tundra]

amazing pic

[lean magnet]

I wish I wasn't dumb and put the phone in portrait instead of landscape, I would've been able to get more galaxy and get rid of the ugly corner

[opaque tundra]

was it taken in a b3 or something ?

[lean magnet]

no

low b6

[opaque tundra]

oh wow

[lean magnet]

It's my second successful wide field

Reason I say successful is bc I did widefield before that but it was horrible

my first was this Cygnus widefield thst I mightve sent already I don't remember

[opaque tundra]

still better than whatever crap i've done with my iphone

[lean magnet]

This was my first widefield 😭

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/794654900930740275/1251331206126239877/mwcorecompressed.png?ex=6685eb80&is=66849a00&hm=6af76002f7432f741811b58689c9836571b909477fbb8e85c79faaae721baffb&

[opaque tundra]

b5/6

[lean magnet]

do u have the data

[opaque tundra]

i have no clue how to make it look good on iphone

[lean magnet]

I am horrible at processing but I could try lol

[opaque tundra]

nah i accidently saved it a png or jpeg i think

[lean magnet]

If it's a png it'll still work I think

Png is lossless

[opaque tundra]

its not that much data, its just 10 20second subs

that circle artifact becomes really heavy with longer exposures

[lean magnet]

6x less than I had

[lean magnet]

My issue with longer exposures was light pollution

Lower parts of the image would be completely gone

That's why I had to use 1600 iso when I could've done 3200

[opaque tundra]

i still havent found good settings for my phone

wish i had a proper camera just for MW

[lean magnet]

If it's a png send it I could try

[opaque tundra]

nah its fine its not worth it with that stupid light ruining it

ill def send you data once i get a better shot at mw

[lean magnet]

There was really bright lights at the right of this imahe

Processing got rid of them

[opaque tundra]

my phone was just directly looking at that light

[lean magnet]

This is what it looked like

[opaque tundra]

is there any app that we can stack pics with on phone?

or is transfering to pc the onlyway

[lean magnet]

i use android and i dont think there is any on android

i was trying to findone

idk about ios

[lean magnet]

wait was this unstacked?

[opaque tundra]

nah nah its taken with astroshader

[lean magnet]

astroshader live stacks doesnt it

idk ive never used it

[opaque tundra]

yea it does

but only the pics taken with the app itself

[opaque tundra]

this was iso1000 and 20s subs

[lean magnet]

i mean i dont think there is any other way to stack on phone but why would u need to

[lean magnet]

how did you not get trailing with that much exposure

[opaque tundra]

just for if i took any MW subs with the camera app

[opaque tundra]

i used that untracked exposure time calculator thingy

[lean magnet]

link?

[opaque tundra]

hmm i must've put the wrong values before

[lean magnet]

ik what ur talking abt ive went to it before but i forgor the link

[opaque tundra]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tSEbji6V4rYz81COybiD5LWaekULIQReJy7kZCxQy78/edit?gid=0#gid=0

its pinned in nerd chat

[lean magnet]

how do i know my stuff for a phone lol

[opaque tundra]

look it up on google

[lean magnet]

ive tried to find it before i couldnt

[opaque tundra]

urs isnt much different from mine

you did 8s in ur pic but the stars arent that trailed

[lean magnet]

it could be fixable

i kinda wanna try it

[opaque tundra]

ill upload it to google drive for you tmr

[simple crow]

man iphone is trash at milkyway holy

[smoky scaffold]

word

even the newest ones cant do it very well

actually i guess this isn’t that bad

[opaque tundra]

fr we're getting scammed by them

[atomic rampart]

No need on samsung phones it has something similar built in

[atomic rampart]

Dont go over 1600iso tbh its better to do jpg rather than raw raw has way too much noise

But you could turn on a setting where it saves the image in both raw and jpeg

And dont forget to take calibration frames you will need it

[elder birch]

Editing MW shots can make a massive difference. This is a before an after edit - for a shot that was a little under exposed and looked ruined to begin with (iPhone13)

[opaque tundra]

oh thats actually very nice

what settings did you use?

[elder birch]

Stretched the image a fair bit, BG removal and saturation

[opaque tundra]

i meant the camera settings

[elder birch]

4s exposures, ISO 1600, x150

[opaque tundra]

thanks

[still seal]

My shot of Omega Centauri, first time taking a photo through a telescope and pretty happy with it

Stacked 12 x 10s exposure at 800 iso

[lean magnet]

dude what are you saying

do not use jpeg if you're going to stack

[atomic rampart]

Idk i find its better

[lean magnet]

It is not

[atomic rampart]

I used my phone for astrophotography

[lean magnet]

mine doesn't have it but prob bc it's a s20+

[atomic rampart]

And there wasnt much difference between raw and jpeg except for the significantly reduced color noise

[atomic rampart]

Its something called pro mode

[lean magnet]

Basically every phone has it ofc Ik about that

[lean magnet]

I thought you meant some asto mode or dmth that I hear some people talk about

Don't use pro mode instead of deepskycamera

Pro mode is nice for finding your settings

[atomic rampart]

It pretty much does the same as that app

[lean magnet]

But when you're taking the actual images use deepskycamera

[atomic rampart]

Allows to adjust your exposure, iso, res, and manually focus also wb

[lean magnet]

It doesn't do raw and less setting customization and most importantly, doesn't take pictures by itself

[atomic rampart]

It does but you need to turn it on in the settings

[lean magnet]

Oh right I forgot about that

Still doesn't take images by itself though

[atomic rampart]

I suppose that last option is nice but i just used auto clicker

[lean magnet]

Taking images without touching it is necessary

since you're doing long exposures

[atomic rampart]

Yes

Thus an auto clicker

It clicks for you

But then again just installing that app is more convenient

[zealous scaffold]

A lot of phones will automatically process an image after taking it to try to make it good, some phones still do this with RAW but shooting in RAW is still way better

[somber lantern]

It isn't at all

[iron bear]

samsung phones process raw files

Samsung's raw files are so processed that they are not even accepted as raw format in pixinsight.

So it's a bad raw. In deepskycamera you might be able to use a more correct raw

[small bluff]

Real or fake?

https://tenor.com/view/real-or-fake-kumalala-real-or-fake-real-fake-kumalala-gif-26380759

[opaque tundra]

Is it cake

[small bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-omg-monkey-gif-24179635

[nimble harness]

Yo that's actually really good

[iron bear]

🤓

[nimble harness]

Not really at all lol

Deepskycamera is an absolute gem

[still seal]

Ty bro

It would have been so much better if my phone could take something other than jpg

[nimble harness]

Do you have an android or ios?

[still seal]

Galaxy a34

Doesn't have RAW support

Even in deepskycamera

[nimble harness]

Oh poop

[still seal]

Yeah might borrow my gfs phone in future

[shy snow]

You hittin tracked?

[still seal]

heq5

Taken through celestron 8-24x zoom w/ 102mm doublet

[nimble harness]

Yeah with raw it would be amazing

[still seal]

Absolutely

Gonna try out deepskycamera too now that i learnt abt it

Tho I have a camera adaptor coming so will probs use that in future with my mirrorless

[shy snow]

Noice

[formal notch]

Credit :
My cousin

He's new to astrophotography this is his first pic

[obsidian fern]

nice cloud

[spring viper]

https://youtu.be/ULuILniYaGk?si=3Upwy9rRl0giWIx4

[spice gale]

6" dobson flextube, untracked, Samsung Galaxy a52s and 10s exposure. Not bad imo

[smoky scaffold]

10s is far too long for untracked

[spice gale]

I wouldn't get any details if it was shorter time

Max 8 secons

[smoky scaffold]

well the details you are getting arent really showing

[spice gale]

At 4 seconds it's better for stars, but worse for nebula

[smoky scaffold]

ig if you arent stacking you could do 10s

[spice gale]

It is harder for me to stack dso

Planetary is fairly easy

But i still didn't learn how to stack dso

[nimble harness]

It's very very very simple

Also without stacking you will end up with these results

[lean magnet]

stacking is easy it's processing that's hard

but simple processing is easy

[ancient rampart]

My attempt at 30000ft high

[formal notch]

@iron bear are you switching to astrocam cause your phone's weight is stressing the mount?

[iron bear]

I'm not going to buy an astrocam at the moment. I'll buy a better mount first

[formal notch]

Okay

[small bluff]

skill issue

[iron bear]

🫵🏻 🤓

[shy snow]

Which one you planning to buy?

[iron bear]

Probably an Exos 2 with onstep. Or another one that is manufactured here in Brazil called Donymount.

This one

[shy snow]

Maybe leaving onstep behind and moving on to actual trackers?

[potent gorge]

this thread offically has 16,000 messages

[iron bear]

I prefer onstep. Easy to use, and if a piece burns, I can easily replace it. The sky watcher mount have been causing a lot of problems with the electronics. A friend's eq8 and Azgti burned the boards

This type of problem was more common with Celestron mount. There are several here in Brazil that replaced the original system with onstep, as the original burned out and is simply too expensive to replace.

[iron bear]

Celestron mount from a friend with onstep. The original system stopped working

[shy snow]

Maybe bad power?

Heard skywatcher mounts are hella picky for power

[opaque tundra]

W thread

[spring viper]

Noctilucent clouds

[ivory thunder]

old pic

[iron bear]

The eq8 was connected to a UPS... So power outages or network power spikes would have blown the UPS fuse and not the mount electronics. ...

[shy snow]

Maybe the ups was not at the rated voltage for the mount

Tbh this is the first time i heard a skywatcher Mount blowing its board out

[iron bear]

Me too. But happend 2 times with close friends. So....

[somber lantern]

Perhaps it's your close friends issue

But tbh I would onstep too

[cursive halo]

@spring viper that is eerily like visual view with very well dark adapted eyes on m31

[spring viper]

Yes, something like that. I tried shooting on iPhone XS using AstroShader, 40 minutes of exposure. But the Sun is at most 13° below the horizon and the sky is still bright

[cursive halo]

I need to try with my phone this winter, I have iphone 12 pro so kind of old generation though

[spring viper]

1:10 am

[cursive halo]

is that 130 or 150p?

[spring viper]

130pds

[cursive halo]

I have the 150PDS and C80ED

200p as well but that one is a bit too much for the poor mount

the sky makes me jealous here at far north it is still just all blue

[spring viper]

It’s really heavy, I love small telescopes)

[cursive halo]

yeah for planetary on the AVX it is ok but dont use it for anything else than that and some visual

the 80ed is what I use 99% of the time, wonderful image and it is small and nimble

darker than the newton of course but with visual it is weird, the large area low contrast stuff you still see better than wth the newton

like triangulum galaxy

[spring viper]

A refractor is convenient if you need to look at something quickly or go somewhere. A large telescope is convenient when it is always at one point. Placing it is quite a feat

I have two dream setups. A 12" DOB, and a small fast telescope on a harmonic mount

[cursive halo]

earlier i would have hated visual on computerised mount, got avx and az-eq5 for imaging forays though... in strike of laziness i got the starsense for the celestron mount and now it is kind of sneaking its way to visual as well, really convenient and fast to setup

although AZ-4 is still faster :p

lol, someone kinda local woudl be selling a 17.5 inch coulter (the red tube one) with all the accessories and really good shape would be my dream visual scope but wife refuses to vacate car from the garage for it so

no dobby for me :(

[somber lantern]

From b7-8, only 5m20s (40x8s)

[tulip geyser]

.

Daaang guys

[stable sundial]

Bortle 3 skies, milky way widefield

[zealous scaffold]

i wish there were mountains here, their so pretty

[somber lantern]

Note to self use an eq mount (or move the tripod as little as possible)

[vague shard]

Widefield , can't seem to bring out details in the core region for some reason

[somber lantern]

That's nice

[stone haven]

Did ou take this with your phone?!?!

[iron bear]

yep!

[stone haven]

That is fantastic! VERY impressive

[opaque tundra]

Ayoo what crazy phone is this taken with

[lean magnet]

huh

S20+

wdym crazy lol

I will probably do m101 next clear sky I get and hopefully this time it doesn't set behind my roof after frame #15 without me knowing wasting the 135 other frames

[lean magnet]

and hopefully no focus issues for like 20 mins

[lean magnet]

I think even after trying to fix focus for 20 mins this still was out of focus

helical focuser + phone adapter issues

[opaque tundra]

Haven’t seen pics that good besides from Lucas’s xiaomi

[opaque tundra]

What scope?

[iron bear]

Officially the best phone for astrophotography. X7U ultra

1 inch dual layer Sony sensor. And now it does 100s of exposure in raw

[zealous scaffold]

Doesn't have retailers in the US, would have to spend lots of money on shipping to get it here

Sadge

[spring viper]

laser focusing

[opaque tundra]

when are you getting it 👀

[iron bear]

Same here in Brazil. There are some stores selling it, but at 5x the price of Aliexpress ☠️🤓

[gusty zodiac]

Oppo is pretty popular in my country

I might have a chance

[formal notch]

Same

[lean magnet]

virtuoso gti 150p

[opaque tundra]

Finally it looks better than my previous mw attempts

[plush palm]

are there any deep sky objects (other than pleades, andromeda and orion nebula) that can be captured only using smarphone?

no telescope

[lean magnet]

north america nebula

and milkyway

[somber lantern]

Both Magellanic clouds probably

[potent gorge]

carina lol

[iron bear]

https://youtu.be/YWbUyTKxQUk?si=cssc1mRENW84yIH6

Same sensor, but on Xiaomi 14u

The dynamic range It's better than the Canon R5

[spring viper]

Epic

[simple crow]

Taken with an samsung galaxy S23 FE

Decided to give phone astro a try since I temporarily broke my camera

I apologize for the poor SNR on the right hand side

[tulip geyser]

Does anyone have images they’ve taken of the dumbbell nebula

[tulip geyser]

@smoky scaffold ?

[tulip geyser]

OOOOOOOO Alr what did you try for settings?

[tulip geyser]

Every time I realign in AstroShader I get horrible smearing🥲

[tulip geyser]

How

[smoky scaffold]

alr bro 😭

[nimble harness]

Tracking + xiaomi

Lots of integration

[tough nest]

Xiaomi💀

They need to stop

[elder birch]

Hey, would you mind dm-ing or messaging in the AstroShader thread and I’ll try to figure out what’s going on?

[vague shard]

@iron bear do you use blur x terminator ?

[somber lantern]

A month later but from my experience you need at least 5 mins

5 mins nicely done and 20 mins poorly framed, moto g13 and b7-8

[iron bear]

Widefield Milkyway

📋Exif:
📷 Xiaomi 12
⚙ 45x20s ISO 800. fixed tripod
📌 Munhoz, Brazil. Bortle 4

[lean magnet]

what

[wise bridge]

thats pretty good for a frige camera

im kidding w pic

[formal notch]

I see thx

Still waiting for clear skies

[stable sundial]

with you bro

[nimble harness]

Dude awesome

You working that xiaomi to death

[dusk crow]

iPhone 12 Pro Max, B9, 50x8s

[opaque tundra]

What are the top 3 phone for AP

[opaque tundra]

Wow night time rainbow

This should get HOF

[shy snow]

1. Oppo find x7 ultra
2. Xiaomi 14 ultra
3. Xiaomi 12 hopefully (lucas's phone)

[opaque tundra]

no way your telling theres something better than lucas phone

are there any images online taken with the oppo?

[iron bear]

Xiaomi 14 pro on 3

1 Inch sensor too, but with 200s raw without root

[shy snow]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-sweating-sweating-bullets-sweating-gif-17507069

All hail smartphones

[iron bear]

I'm just not saying that the 14 pro is the best, because its sensor is the version before the Lyt900. The imx 989
It's also very very good, but it doesn't have that double layer feature that greatly increases the dynamic range and light capture. But it should still be much better than my mi12

It´s the same imx 989, but with improvement's

[vague shard]

I was able to follow a bit of your technique and was able to get this

Main thing I think is more integration time and blurxterminator

Also how did you get that with fixed tripod ??

I am able to get details in the cloud region but can't seem to pop out nebulaes

[tulip geyser]

Dumbbell nebula

I’m not sure what caused the weird trailing😭 didn’t use realign

[clever sandal]

single 10s shot, phone 15 pro

[tulip geyser]

wtf

[wise bridge]

what stacking app?

im guessing astroshader

[dusk crow]

Yes

[simple crow]

heres less compression

[sick rain]

About 1h 20min of integration

[somber lantern]

Woah

[opaque tundra]

bruh are you in b Zero

[opaque tundra]

Noice what phone is that?

[rough chasm]

This is the greatest forum

[sick rain]

Motorola Edge 20 Lite

[opaque tundra]

Oh cool didn’t know they were that good

[sick rain]

Well they aren't

[opaque tundra]

Lucas hard carrying us

[sick rain]

It's a pain to stack and process

[opaque tundra]

It looks better than anything I’ve seen with a iPhone

[sick rain]

Yeah most of the pics from iPhones are washed out

[somber lantern]

Iphones are the worst kind of phone for ap

[opaque tundra]

welp cant change phones now

[somber lantern]

My condolences

[tulip geyser]

I’m determined to get a better image tonight

Weird star trailing without realignment

[clever sandal]

b2 lolll

[clever sandal]

fat meteor

(i took the photo of the camera on my phone it's chill guys)

[simple crow]

yeah literally anything that isnt an iphone is better at astro

[simple crow]

nice what phone is that

[opaque tundra]

it is what it is, cant be ditching that ios lifestyle just to do mw on phone smh

[clever sandal]

iphone 15 pro lol

[simple crow]

Yeah even got the new iPhone patented viewfinder

And their new logo is looking great

It almost looks like it says canon

[simple crow]

Oh I didn't see this

Oh that's smart

[coral cedar]

I want to ask, what driver you use to make the onstep goto?

I use tmc 2209 with wemos d1 r32

Idk it'll work or no

[rough chasm]

Funky looking phone you got there

[iron bear]

I bought my onstep ready-made from a local manufacturer. But I have some photos of the inside of it

[coral cedar]

Woah damn

Where did you buy it?

[coral cedar]

Looks cool tho

[iron bear]

I honestly don't know which driver it is. Maybe you can identify it from this photo

[coral cedar]

Damn drv driver with arduino

So many ppl use that combination to make onstep

Ill go with drv

[iron bear]

The new model board

[coral cedar]

How much did you buy?

[iron bear]

Mine is a little older. It's a couple of friends who basically make it to resell

[coral cedar]

Wow, but it looks cool tho

[iron bear]

It's difficult to convert to another currency considering the scarcity of the market here, but converting to dollars, it was around 100 dollars.

100-120 dollars

[coral cedar]

Hmm i see

Ill go DIY then

[iron bear]

It's a cheaper alternative. I chose to buy it ready-made, because when I bought it I was just beginning in astrophotography

[coral cedar]

Ahh i see so just plug and play right

But yeah you need to do drift allignment also right?

[iron bear]

It even came with the step ratio configured. I just connected the cables

[coral cedar]

Woah thats nice

[iron bear]

I usually do it by drift. But onstep is compatible with other alignment methods

[coral cedar]

Idk with mine. i have eq2 mount, people said the mount has backlash idk it is worse or not

[coral cedar]

I see

I live slighly northen, but i cant see the polaris, so yeah, perhaps ill do drift allignment

[iron bear]

I do polar alignment most of the time in a hallway with no south view. Just from the zenith practically and it works very well

[coral cedar]

Thats cool tho, expert and experience astrophotograher

[distant epoch]

The last photo is with spica

And I was confused because I didn't realize you could see it during the day

[spring viper]

Why is it so big? Looks like it's also an i5 computer

My new version fits on my hand)

[limber walrus]

Attempted picture of the sun, back when I first started astrophotography. (No sun filter💀) Shot on iPhone 7

[spring viper]

F

[vague shard]

Does anyone know a good alternative for blurxterminator ?

[fair trellis]

☠️

[gusty zodiac]

aren't there warnings on most telescopes not to point at the sun?

or was it just mine

[dry falcon]

Taken using a celestron astromaster 130eq and my iPhone 11 (the ring nebula)

[nimble harness]

Every one of them should have some sort of warning

[nimble harness]

Good start

[limber walrus]

It’s on mine too but since I didn’t put my eye through it and only my phone, I thought it was fine

[dusk crow]

I also Capture Ring nebula with Astromaster 114eq

[dry falcon]

Thank you 😁

[dry falcon]

That’s great!

[potent gorge]

Urghhhhhh
@solar nymph is gonna be disappointed

[dry falcon]

Are your eyes ok?.. 💀

[opaque tundra]

maybe graxpert?

[potent gorge]

No

Graxpert is for denoising/gradients removal

[potent gorge]

Good old Deconvolution

[opaque tundra]

oh ok

[vague shard]

Thanks mate

[limber walrus]

Yeah, I put it through a phone mount thankfully

[somber lantern]

Every scope has it I think

[tulip geyser]

Tf dude☠️

[iron bear]

The new version is small. If I were to make one, I would make it as small as possible too

[vague shard]

First attempt for milkyway , may 6 2024

[exotic merlin]

Small Sagittarius Star Cloud

ring nebula

also does anybody know how to get rid of this sort of orange-ish background?

when i try to contrast it

it looks too much

[nimble harness]

You need to turn down your exposure length to like 1 second

[exotic merlin]

then like 50+ photos?

also should my iso still stay on 2000+?

[nimble harness]

More like 400 or 500

Also turn that iso up to like 3200

[formal notch]

Probably due to white balance put that setting in auto. If it still dosent work, manually adjust it till background gets black.

[zealous edge]

color corrected this, looks a little nicer now

[exotic merlin]

thank you

[vague shard]

@iron bear what is the chroma nr thing you use ? is it inbuilt in pixinsight or have you installed it from outside?

[iron bear]

It´s inbuilt in pixinsight

My process icons with this chroma NR. It´s bassicly the old pixinsight NR with MMT, but still working great

[vague shard]

Thanks man, I was just going through your yt video, very helpful 🙏

[dusk crow]

That was 60x1s

The star trail still visible with 25x magnification

[exotic merlin]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_Vfso2RkVtSsHhXArNWDnlCPURZSa5D5?usp=drive_link does anyone know how to color correct this?

[vague shard]

Been processing my data since like 3 days but still not impressive results, then I realized I was just polishing shit ,will get better data next season

[exotic merlin]

ring nebula

[terse smelt]

i dont think titan is even possible to see wwith this scope

[fair trellis]

Stack a few 5x barlows and you can see surface detail on titan

[copper sorrel]

What would be the minimum aperture and focal length to see Titan tho?

[tough nest]

😲

Omg

What?

[potent gorge]

Don't do that.

[terse smelt]

do not do that

[tough nest]

Do not do that

[pastel nexus]

The beam of light coming out of the eyepiece will meltyour eye

Literally the #1 rule of astronomy

[tough nest]

I meant what in: "how did your phone not explode and how are you not blind"

[pastel nexus]

Yea, everyone thought you wanted to try lol

Myself included

[limber walrus]

Ik ik i was new to my telescope back then

[tough nest]

No! I've been a part of this server for almost 7 months I know my way pretty well around telescopes

[lean magnet]

Do not that

[gusty zodiac]

Do that 😳

[lean magnet]

Do.

[iron bear]

32/120mm guidescope test

I will process it tomorrow. It´s just arround 10x55s iso 400

This guidescope is f4 and because it is a guidescope, it does not have a field flatner. But if a 135mm DSLR lens is used, it should be fine to use with your cell phone. SVbony has a DSLR lens adapter to 1.25 inches

[tough nest]

Are there any good camera apps you can take videos with and control the settings?

[pastel nexus]

for planetary

[shy snow]

There are

But they shoot mp4 and not astro-formats

[tough nest]

Oh yeah thanks

[tough nest]

Is that like really bad?

[shy snow]

No

But for planetary

They get really noisy when you try to sharpen them after stacking

Mp4 is like the jpeg of planetary

But theres this app motioncam that lets you record a video but exports every frame of the video as a raw or a .dng file

This thing

Should be good but im yet to properly try it out

[iron bear]

Motioncam, open camera, filmic pro and pro shot

(Android)

Motioncam can record in raw
But a 8bit mp4 without noise reduction it´s enough for planetary astrophotography

Those who do planetary astrophotography with a planetary camera generally record in 8 bits instead of 16 to get more fps. So this would be kind of like a good quality mp4.

[tough nest]

Which one would you say is the best?

[iron bear]

Motioncam

[tough nest]

It's so confusing

But I'll figure it out I guess

[iron bear]

It's a bit confusing... But over time I got the hang of it

[tough nest]

Why does everything turn purple when I try to adjust the exposure😭

[iron bear]

If I'm not mistaken, you can disable it. It's just to show you where it's saturated with exposure

[tough nest]

Oh ok

Thanks

[sterile parrot]

Guys i might be leaving planetary phone photography

I got a camera being shipped

[spring viper]

130PDS, Eq3-2, 6mm 66°, 3x omni barlow. Redmi note 7

[sterile parrot]

Nice

[sterile parrot]

Beautiful

[ivory thunder]

this would taste like chalk

[sterile parrot]

Nah bro cheese duh

[simple crow]

b9

s23fe

pretty trash image

[sterile parrot]

Single sub

Not very aligned properly lol

[somber lantern]

This was the only image I was ever able of hand tracking, 8s exposure, I'm getting tracking in the next few weeks hopefully this friday

[shy snow]

i have resolved to not image the moon the rest of 2024 or even 2025 until i get a satisfactory nebulosity around a dso

Preferably andromeda, pleiades, or orion

[formal notch]

wha

why

[shy snow]

Cause almost 80% of what i shot till now is just moon

And the closest i got to dso is a smudge of nebulosity near orion nebula

[formal notch]

oh

i see

whats your scope?

[shy snow]

The image is in my pc which recently burned its smps

[shy snow]

Tell me youre not gonna laugh

[formal notch]

i wont

promise

i just wanna know if it has high focl length

[shy snow]

Its a 700 mm

[formal notch]

then you can do planetary by attaching a small cam (like webcam)

[formal notch]

oh

[shy snow]

Very perfect fl

Too much for dso, too less for planetary

[formal notch]

yeah

[shy snow]

It also has insane CA

[formal notch]

you can still do dso (mine is 900 and i can do it)

[formal notch]

ohno

ik what scope is that

i guess move to widefield milky way photography

[shy snow]

Guess

[formal notch]

70mm apertuer

[shy snow]

Yeah sometimes

[shy snow]

60

[formal notch]

woah

u truly have some skill to get those images

[shy snow]

How

[formal notch]

in another server people strugle to even align their scope with moon

with their phone on the scope

can you buy another scope?

[shy snow]

Not rn

But planning to get a monocular soon

[formal notch]

great!

[shy snow]

From amazon

[shy snow]

This thing

But i dont see any focus ring

Help?

[formal notch]

idk

[shy snow]

Maybe that dashed black plastic idk

[shy snow]

Dude, serious skill issue at that point

[formal notch]

yeah could be

[iron bear]

💀

Cursed setup, but it work's

[iron bear]

Discord compression added a lot of banding to the image 💀

[golden summit]

post it in the cursed setups forum

[frigid dove]

Wasnt paying attention and thought i was in Cursed Setups

[golden summit]

same lol

[shy snow]

What is this?

The 😎 emoji?

Cool hdr tho

[smoky scaffold]

this will definitely be worse than your current scope tho

[shy snow]

Any alternatives?

In the 10 usd range

Max budget for monocular is 13 usd

[smoky scaffold]

$10?

[shy snow]

Usd

[smoky scaffold]

you might be better off with your eyes 😭

it’s an expensive hobby

[shy snow]

How much they cost

[shy snow]

Imma just get a better one later

[smoky scaffold]

your eyes cost $0

[shy snow]

What if i sell them on the black market

Can i buy a gti with that

[smoky scaffold]

yes

they can sell for $5k+

but then you won’t have anything to view your results with

[lean magnet]

sell one

[shy snow]

Who said im selling my eyes

[pastel nexus]

You can still do smaller dso's. Like the dumbbell nebula or galaxys

[iron bear]

It's a roof

But now that you say it, I can't unsee the (😎)

[iron bear]

it´s just 2 shots hdr

It was already night, so I couldn't use a single exposure.

[wise bridge]

best iphone app for taking stars?

[potent gorge]

astroshader

[cursive halo]

astroshader easily

not so good for planetary but for deep sky <3

[proper totem]

iphone 13 and 10” dob

[sick kernel]

Hey guys just got this skywatcher 76/900 newtonian reflector it came with a 20mm and 10mm eyepiece i still havent used it cuz bad weather also what yall think?

[sterile parrot]

Would be good if the fl was like 600-700 but not the best but still rlly good probs better than mine lol

Better than mine lol but mine is go to

Just read ur gonna be doing planets lol one sec

Ur doing visual? @sick kernel

Its a good scope for planetary if ur doing visual and could be good depending on the cam ur using

[sick kernel]

Visual and phone

[sterile parrot]

U said u was buying a 450d?

In future?

[sick kernel]

Ye

Ye

[sterile parrot]

Alr

One sec stay here

[sick kernel]

Ok

[sick kernel]

WoW

[sterile parrot]

This Orion Nebula through ur telescope with a canon 450d

[sick kernel]

It really that good

This is stacket i asume?

[sterile parrot]

Due to the 450d’s large sensor u will be better using the dslr for dso as planets appear very small

[sterile parrot]

No this is just astronomy.tools lol

[sick kernel]

Ye

But

[sterile parrot]

It just shows you what things would look like through certain setups

[sick kernel]

Its probably stacked

[sterile parrot]

Its just there to show you how the image would look

[sick kernel]

Ye but 100% it wont look like that live

[sterile parrot]

No

[sick kernel]

Ye

Also

[sterile parrot]

With enough subs and exposure u could probs get somewhat similar

[sick kernel]

Is there any way to stack image on phone

[sterile parrot]

Nah

I dont think

[sick kernel]

Cuz my brother broke my computer

[sterile parrot]

Dayum

[sick kernel]

AND my laptop

[sterile parrot]

Everybody i know used laptop or pc idk if its remotely possible

[sick kernel]

Idc for that lap top it was crap anyway

[sterile parrot]

U will need a pc or laptop

[sick kernel]

…

[sick kernel]

Ok

[sterile parrot]

Try and get it repaired or smth

[sick kernel]

I tried but bo said it impossible

For pc

He spilled his juice

And out if rage

Smashed it

…

[sterile parrot]

Rip

Get him to pay

[sick kernel]

I cant

[sterile parrot]

Or smash all his toys or smth

[sick kernel]

Cuz he older than me

[sterile parrot]

Ah

[sick kernel]

But he acts like he is 6

[sterile parrot]

😂😂😂

[sick kernel]

Yeeee

[sterile parrot]

Just dm me if u wanna ask smth

[sick kernel]

Ok thanks

Byeeeeeee

[smoky scaffold]

@sick kernel do you have an iPhone

[zealous scaffold]

i havent shot in months and im very tempted to shoot tonight

but i also feel like i should wait for the new moon to shoot for best visibility

[shy snow]

Looks similar to a celestron powerseeker?

[shy snow]

Astro shader?

[somber lantern]

Way smaller in aperture

[iron bear]

M17 with some more adjustments in stars

114/900 and 18mm UFF eyepiece + xiaomi 12. 100x55s iso 400

[iron bear]

https://www.astrobin.com/buphhi/

[sterile parrot]

Thats to capture

[shy snow]

Doesn't it live stack?

[sterile parrot]

I dont think so

[elder birch]

I does live stacking.

Actually it only does live stacking. Saving the subs is on the todo list…

[sick kernel]

I only see now this text so sry but thx for helping :-))))

[ancient rampart]

Absolutely awful data, just a quick test of these b5 skyes im in rn

[coral cedar]

jupiter stacked

[sterile parrot]

Nicee u can see the grs lightly aswell

[sick kernel]

Tonight was the first time i tested my new telescope
(Skywatcher 76/900 eq2)
And i took these pictures of the moon the star arcturus and saturn (saturn is bit out of focus)

The ISS was passing by so i took a quick foto (its very bad)

[lean magnet]

lower exposure on saturn

[sick kernel]

Oki

[tough nest]

How did you manage 324x mag?

[spring viper]

Using a tube from another Barlow

[tough nest]

I meant like with 260x as your max, how'd you manage 324x?

[spring viper]

260 is the maximum useful mag, it can be exceeded

[tough nest]

I guess you have a good point, but it's still quite sharp for being that magnified

[spring viper]

Depends on the quality of the mirror

With a good atmosphere you can set a higher magnification

[dusk crow]

Moon with IPhone 12 Pro Max 2.5x

[nimble harness]

Samsung brrrt

[ancient rampart]

Feel like editing could be better, its just 10s at 800 iso tho.

[spice gale]

What phone?

[ancient rampart]

S20FE

[sick kernel]

Took a pic of the milky way with the iphone 13mini (30 sec exposure)

The stars trailed a bit but i think its ok

(Btw its unedited)

[dusk crow]

Yo very good for 30s in wich B level are you?

[shy snow]

Looks like a 3 or 4

[sick kernel]

I went to 4

But i live in 5