Phone Astrophotography

[elder birch]

So I’m currently working on a way to “re-align” as you shoot to avoid this.
The idea being you could (with a lot of patience) do an hour or more integration untracked

[tulip geyser]

I could get a solid 10-15 mins w/o moving my setup

[elder birch]

That’s pretty long actually!
Is that edge to edge of the FOV? This is what can warp the image, so thinking shooting in say 5 mins blocks out the centre of the FOV for 30-60mins you might be able to get some really nice images with less distortion

[tulip geyser]

Edge to edge, and yes it does warp the shot. You could take 5 min stacked shots and stack those in another software I suppose

[elder birch]

This would be basically letting you keep the target in the centre of the FOV by pausing to realign in AstroShader whenever you need (or every X images). So you could avoid doing it as a separate step - but really it’s the same

[tulip geyser]

How do u pause in AstroShader?

[elder birch]

Sorry - you can’t. I was saying I might add this as a feature

[tulip geyser]

Wait wait wait you’re the dev of Astro shader?! That’s sick

That gesture would be chefs kiss

Feature*

That would allow for much MUCH more photos to stack

[cobalt brook]

Anyone have a s24 ultra that they can show photos of stars etc on?

[elder birch]

Yes - that’s the thinking, basically letting you stack way more, but also avoid the image distortion.
I got sent a really interesting experiment regarding the distortion from afocal smartphone imaging.
The first image is a 30mm eyepiece, followed by 14, 12, 10 and 8. You can see the distortion is much less when shooting out the centre of the scope.

This also makes the point about higher focal ratios and afocal imaging some mentioned here a while back.

[tulip geyser]

Interesting

[edgy talon]

Tracked mount

[tulip geyser]

What’s being said here is that having the center of the camera pointed to the edge of the lens corrects the distortion?

[smoky scaffold]

my brother in christ

no

[edgy talon]

Or you can just lock in and bear the cold

Every 4 subs re-center with your RA knob

[smoky scaffold]

im jus going to master the technique of moving my telescope exactly with the rotation of the earth

[edgy talon]

Your stars will be better near your target

[edgy talon]

Alt az or EQ, I'm guessing you got the eq cuz of ur starbladt

[smoky scaffold]

eq

[edgy talon]

You do polar align right

[smoky scaffold]

yes roughly

[edgy talon]

Perfect

Just don't put your target at the corner, it will mess it up

[smoky scaffold]

no wonder there’s always weird stars

[edgy talon]

Coma is a pain in the ass

Astroshader man, what output file is the stacks

[elder birch]

No sorry, the image just looks like that.
It’s saying if you use a shorter eyepiece (e.g. viewing the centre of the lens or mirror, magnified) then there will be less distortion

[edgy talon]

When he responds, keep the output files and delete your lights, then throw the output files in DeepSkyStacker and get an actual stack going

I've stacked jpegs like a dumbass before and they worked, dss will take just about anything

[elder birch]

You choose the file type to save from tiff, png, jpeg, heic,
Prior to this the image is just an in memory representation of the image

[edgy talon]

Dss can stack tiff files, what do you think of my idea of using your app for reducing stacking time?

[elder birch]

Like doing stacks of stacks? Yeah could work pretty nicely

[edgy talon]

Yeah I think so too

Just the calibration frames will be a different format

Do you show a histogram so users can easily do flats afterwards?

[tulip geyser]

So if you do a stack of say 50 3sec exposures at 1500 ISO, and do that 20 more times, import them into DSS, stack, and edit in a software, the result could be very good?

[tulip geyser]

It doesn’t show a histogram as far as I am aware

[edgy talon]

Better than astroshader, if DSS can recognize the stars

Well that's bold, from what I've heard it can't really recognize stars when you recenter, but I can be wrong

[tulip geyser]

Bro I tried to do the Orion Nebula and yea it wouldn’t recognize s***

[edgy talon]

Eh it's good for image acquisition but with my theory it should fare well in stacking

Plus, all software fails to stack untracked stars, I bet astroshader would be able to stack my phone data like DSS could

[tulip geyser]

Built in stacker that you could feed images would be nice, rather than only being able to stack taken photos

[formal notch]

Try to use Openlivestcker app it stacks live

does really well

even on untracked

[tulip geyser]

must be a non-ios app

[formal notch]

Yes

[tulip geyser]

@formal notch if you have any andromeda photos I’d like to take a look

With how I’m capable of capturing I have quite a good amount of distortion on the sides of my shots

[formal notch]

I only have Orion

Havent been able to locate Andromeda in b9

[tulip geyser]

B9 is tough

[formal notch]

Rn I am trying to shoot with my small scope for more fov

[formal notch]

Yeah

[formal notch]

Looks good

Which software did u use to stack?

[tulip geyser]

B4 shots, can’t remember the # of shots and all that

I just used Astro shader, edited in LR

[formal notch]

Ok

[tulip geyser]

It produces fairly clean images, depending on the settings

My Bode’s galaxy isn’t great due to the ungodly high ISO

(10000)

Just some variants, the noisiest one being the raw image

I’m going to attempt Andromeda one clear night with lower ISO

[formal notch]

Your images look really nice

Which scope do u have

[tulip geyser]

A Hexeum 70mm aperature 600mm focal length

Shot with an iPhone 14

Baj in here had a much better resolution

His andromeda and Bode’s

Just so astonishing, but he used 10k ISO as well for Bode’s. A lower ISO with a longer integration would decrease the noise

I think increase the SNR (if I’m using that right)

Tbh, I think I could get a better Bode’s Galaxy pic with what I know

[unborn loom]

Like me!

[zealous edge]

Honestly AstroShader is pretty darn good when you really squeeze out every last bit of detail you possibly can, with as much exposure time as your field of view will allow. Followed by some post processing and star correcting if needed, AstroShader has serious potential if used right.

These are my absolute best captures using AstroShader on my iPhone 12 attached to a small tripod and a monocular. My Andromeda isn't as good as some other ones posted here, but so much can be done with this app.

very noisy and crispy but there's not much you can do to alleviate that without reducing the visibility of the objects, or using some denoising software that may end up just making the image look worse

[unborn loom]

It's pretty good considering it's iphone

This is my horsehead with binoculars

Android tho

[zealous edge]

Oh wow ok

that is far better than mine

What model android is it?

I know some have dedicated astrophotography modes

[unborn loom]

S21FE but i used dss

[zealous edge]

Ah ok, DSS definitely makes the difference. Out of curiosity what would the total exposure time be for that image?

[unborn loom]

Gonna have to dig that up

Around 15 minutes

230x4"

I did that a year ago

I did these too

[tulip geyser]

you should simply move it to the side of the screen for imaging. I used astroshader with this method and got great results w/ ISO 10000

[unborn loom]

Idk what u mean

[tulip geyser]

sorry, I mean center your object to the edge of your lens/viewing device, in a way that it will move across the lens without you moving

Astro shader will stack the images and give good results

I am going to experiment with a large amount of photos with a lower ISO, and ~3 seconds of exposure

[unborn loom]

Oh yeah i think i get what you mean. Every stacking software will actually do that. I used deepsky stacker

[tulip geyser]

.

[tulip geyser]

.

these are my results

[unborn loom]

I used 4 secs and iso i don't remember but definitely less than 3200

What bortle are you from?

[tulip geyser]

I have bortle 4 skies

[unborn loom]

Nice

This is a 20 second exposure iso 500

[tulip geyser]

thats cool. I want to image the andromeda myself, each time its gone through light pollution, tho. this sunday hopefully

[unborn loom]

Gl. Hope it's not gonna be too much of a pain

[solemn spindle]

Me when my phone pics are better than my canon cam pics

And the canon pic has more integration time too

[patent zodiac]

Try streching the canon photos

At least send me a raw

[solemn spindle]

The canon photo is already stretched

[terse smelt]

you can barely get more detail out of it

[tulip geyser]

Supposed to be clear skies Sunday

[dense moat]

No star trails?

[unborn loom]

Not really

It was pretty minimal

[dense moat]

With 15 seconds?

[unborn loom]

30

[dense moat]

20

Exposure

[unborn loom]

Seconds

[dense moat]

You said 20

Seconds

[unborn loom]

Yeah but i've also done 30

[dense moat]

Exposure

What about in that pic

How long does an exposure have to be for star trails?

[unborn loom]

Should be 20

[unborn loom]

However long it has to be

Depending on focal lenght mostly and if you're tracked or not

If you have guiding

If theres wind

If how much ur optics weigh

What mount you use

What camera you use

List goes on

(If you were asking generally)

[bronze jackal]

was about to try get a photo of the pleiades and the moon together and right as i got my phone in focus a big massive cloud arrived on scene

[tulip geyser]

Soon I’m going to reshoot bode’s galaxy and get shots of both andromeda and M33

[vale lintel]

If anyone here uses apple whats the best way you find to upload the images you get to your pc?

[tulip geyser]

Dropbox

If ur using apple, id reccomend Astro Shader. Its simple and stacks in the software

@smoky scaffold has some great photos if he wants to show you

Mine are mediocre yet but there’ll be clear skies soon

[smoky scaffold]

upload to google drive

from your phone

then download them from google drive

on your pc

im pretty sure its lossless

dropbox probably works too

[tulip geyser]

Same pretty sure it’s lossless

Howve you been

[smoky scaffold]

it just snowed where im 😭

after like 2 weeks of no snow

i thought it was over

[tulip geyser]

Me too😭 got 6”

[edgy talon]

Lucky

We never get snow here

[tulip geyser]

Ain’t stopping me🦧

It’s nice but weather here has been changing and the snow sucks

[zealous edge]

Honestly I wish we'd get more snow around where I live

we haven't had like, significant amounts of snow in years

it's just depressing going through yet another brown winter

[smoky scaffold]

brown winter 😂

never heard someone call it that

[zealous edge]

Well yeah! It's all just been mud and dead leaves and rain of all things for the past couple months, with like two actual snowfalls which were gone in a week or so

It's sad, and another sign of climate change wrecking the planet.

[dense moat]

Are there any good astrophotography apps for Android?

How are you people's Orion nebula pictures so good mine look like this

[wild flame]

seems really out of focus, you sure its just the phone?

it could be a lot of factors like exposure time, collimation, making sure the camera is aligned with the eyepiece, dew on any of the optics or phone, Etc.

[wild flame]

what phone do you have

[dense moat]

Pixel xl

The stars were as small as they could get

I can check the collimation now

It definitely wasn't collimated

Before

But know it is

[wild flame]

oof yea that might affect it

Im assuming its untracked?

[dense moat]

Untracked and no settings just my phone camera

[wild flame]

ah

no settings might not help

do you have an expert mode?

the camera usually has a really hard time keeping its autofocus when looking into an eyepiece

[formal notch]

try using deep sky camera for raw frames and processing on pc

use open live stacker for live stacking

[dense moat]

Nope no manual focus

[wild flame]

Huh

Odd

Yea pixel is probably the hardest android to use for AP

See if you can do the tap to focus thing and lock it so it doesn't shift when you're adjusting the focus knob on your scope

[smoky scaffold]

do u guys think it’s possible to stack live stacked pictures

[wild flame]

Yep

Just plug the substacks into dss

[wild flame]

if you're using the samsung astrophoto mode with RAW it'll darken the files a lot so watch out for that

[neat flame]

200x 1 sec exposure

Iso 640

20 dark

2O flat

Of course with a phone 😄

[dense moat]

What should a focused Orion nebula look like?

@wild flame

[wild flame]

for phjone AP this is what you can expect

you can for sure get better tho

[dense moat]

What bortle are you in

[dense moat]

When the stars are as small as possible then I get this

Even visually

@wild flame

[zealous scaffold]

i use deep sky camera app and got this image from stacking 230 images together

its a nice app, you can set exposure time, if you wanna take lights, darks, flats, biases, and then how many images you wanna take, then you can just press shutter, come back in 20 mins and it'll have all your images taken

you can also change iso and focus and all that

[dense moat]

I have dsc but how do you set focus?

[zealous scaffold]

1 sec lemme get a pic of the app

so the little slider on the right in red, if you bump it all the way up to the top, it'll make your focus really sensitive, so then you just have to change the focus on your scope until the image on the deep sky camera app looks good, it should help with perfectly focusing

you should notice the nebula goes out of focus when you turn the slider up

basically just refocus the telescope

[dense moat]

What does the nebula look like from your scope with just one frame?

[zealous scaffold]

lemme pull it up

with a 5s exposure flat image at 1600 iso

5s exposure dark image at 1600 iso

you prob wont get those purple dots in the top left unless you have a google pixel 6 pro

its a laser used for focusing that reflects off the lens, very annoying lol

[dense moat]

Man, people are really helpful in this server

What bortle sky's are you in?

[zealous scaffold]

B6

B6
Celestron Nexstar 6SE
Google Pixel 6 Pro
3D printed phone mount

and i shoot everything from my porch

[dense moat]

Is it possible that it was because I was shooting lights?

[zealous scaffold]

your supposed to shoot lights im just kinda an idiot lol

i was supposed to shoot 200 lights but shot 200 flats instead

end resultt is still really good though

[dense moat]

I don't have a phone mount🤦‍♂️

[zealous scaffold]

do you have a 3d printer?

my phone mount is a 3d print file i found online that was made for microscopes lol

[dense moat]

Does everyone just have a 3d printer in their house now?

[zealous scaffold]

their incredibly useful, i do recommend getting one lol

especially if you dont wanna spend more money than you need to spend on some telescope accessories you can easily 3d print some stuff with free files online for your telescope

[dense moat]

Is the difference between bortle 6 and 8 that much different

[zealous scaffold]

yeah

you should be able to shoot things in bortle 8, it'll just be harder to find some things and the image might look a little brighter than you'd want

id honestly say my sky is a mix between 7 and 6

theres a lot of light pollution in the east, west, and north, but south is pretty good

[dense moat]

Would that make the difference between your and my pictures?

Mine is actually also probably a 7

[zealous scaffold]

bortle shouldnt really be a huge issue, i mean i dont know all that much about bortle to be honest, i believe it can make your pictures look more gray and cloudy though

it is phone lol

im astonished with how stable it is for a dso using an alt-az

this shows how stable it was during tracking that night

[wild flame]

9

[dense moat]

Oh sorry was tagging the wrong person

[tulip geyser]

Clear skies but windy tonight, 25 degrees. Might not be worth imaging

[zealous scaffold]

clear skies here too, 33 degrees but like 20 because of windchill

still gonna image because why not lol

[wild flame]

midwest?

[tulip geyser]

Michigan

[wild flame]

yea basically the same weather 2 states over

wind chill goes crazy

makes it basically impossible to image especially with my tripod

[tulip geyser]

East or west? I was thinking abt imaging but the wind tonight,

[smoky scaffold]

do you guys think it’s possible to capture the whirlpool galaxy?

when it’s at its highest of course, around 70 degrees

[terse smelt]

yeah its like 8th mag

if you can get m110 (larger but fainter sat of andromeda) its prolly visiblwe

[formal notch]

What is the max exposure your phone allows (even with manual controls)?

[zealous scaffold]

mine with deep sky cam allows 17

oh you mean actual exposure

or exposure time

?

[tulip geyser]

I was considering it but want to practice larger objects first. I’d definitely attempt it

[zealous scaffold]

im actually going out soon to capture whirlpool. giving it a shot with phone

[tulip geyser]

What’s the fl and aperature of ur scope?

[zealous scaffold]

fl is 1500mm
aperture is 150mm
i think

[tulip geyser]

Send the results, they should be pretty good

Using an app?

I use Astro shader

[zealous scaffold]

DSC (deep sky camera)

i got some big orion data being uploaded to drive rn

[tulip geyser]

Hell yea

[zealous scaffold]

better than what i had from last night

[zealous scaffold]

whirlpools gonna have to wait, couldnt find it for the life of me it was practically invisible

[formal notch]

Nice I meant the actual exposure time for one shot

[smoky scaffold]

just went out to try but it was foggy👎so I attempted a milky way picture

I definitely didn’t look at the focus hard enough

[sick rain]

Flats and dbe

[zealous scaffold]

Yeah I only took flats and darks though, I got 450 lights now for it

[tulip geyser]

I’d use an app to find some stars, and walk your way from a know constellation to the whirlpool galaxy. It’s gonna be damn near invisible

[dense moat]

Man, it's night time wtf

[zealous scaffold]

Yeah I used stellarium and used Alkaid to find it because it's the nearest star

[spring viper]

My best moon ever. 130PDS and Xiaomi redmi note 7, raw video

[smoky scaffold]

looks like you’re flying right by it

[spring viper]

Yes I agree. It wraps up very beautifully and produces such an effect in combination with a close view

I want to say thanks to the Motioncam app, the quality is impressive even on such an old phone

[edgy talon]

I swear them xiaomi's got the best cans

[spice gale]

Thinking of buying the Samsung s22

I saw a guy in tiktok, he's from Brazil, and gets crazy quality with that phone

But everyone tells me thst Xiaomi hot better camera

And I don't know what to choose

[zealous scaffold]

google pixel 6 pro which is what i shoot with is really good and has a built in astrophotography mode

ive also heard the google pixel 7 has about the same features but fact check me on that

con is that these phones do not have a pro mode

so you have to install an app to change exposure and iso

[unborn loom]

Theres someone with a xiaomi in this server that does unbelivable work

[spring viper]

If you only need a camera, you can buy Xiaomi, but I personally am not satisfied with its OS. I use xiaomi only for astrophotography, for the rest I have another phone

Xiaomi note 13 pro+ has a flagship camera that should be better than the galaxy 23 ultra, but this needs to be checked

[dense moat]

What settings do you guys use for planetary on deepskycamera so everything doesn't just look like a bright ball of brightness

[zealous scaffold]

deep sky camera is for deep sky, i wouldnt use it for planetary

you can pretty much get away with just recording a video of planets and using pro mode to make it look good in the video

then you can just export those frames and stack them

[tulip geyser]

Cloud coverage, hoping it clears andromeda for 4 mins

Also hoping the light pollution it goes through doesn’t train wreck the image

Also hoping I don’t freeze to death

[zealous scaffold]

i put duct tape over where the laser comes from

still slightly prevalent in my latest data which is really annoying, prob just need to put more duct tape over it

electrical tape will probably work better

but i dont have any, so

this image shows where the laser is btw

its the purple thingy

i just do an L shape, one strip along the top and one that goes down beside the camera

[tulip geyser]

I posted my data in processing

Idk with the sky and how cold it is

And how I had to take them lmao

[tulip geyser]

This is the data I got; the moon made it harder. I tried 1100 ISO, but cranked it to 7000

[formal notch]

nice

[tulip geyser]

Noooooo its not great

[terse smelt]

got m110 and the dust lanes

[tulip geyser]

Lemme see

[tulip geyser]

So that’s the other galaxy I captured? I figured it was too far from andromeda to be m 110

[terse smelt]

you can prolly get all the messiers with that setup

[tulip geyser]

I want better image quality, gotta be a way

[terse smelt]

more frames, go to a dark sky site, use a camera that isnt a phone, bigger telescope, go there

all of those would work as options

[zealous edge]

There's definitely potential to be had, you can get surprisingly good images of Andromeda using just a phone and a small telescope, as long as you have enough exposure time and you're somewhere dark enough.

this is a shot I took of Andromeda using just my iPhone 12 and a monocular, and the AstroShader app of course.

[zealous scaffold]

i cant even find a galaxy

[zealous edge]

You can do some pretty good stuff

[terse smelt]

https://artyom-beilis.github.io/astrohopper.html astrohopper is pog

[tulip geyser]

Could I have your exposure time and ISO + # of shots?

[zealous scaffold]

ill try it on my phone

[tulip geyser]

For most besides andromeda it’s as though a very VERY faint blemish has appeared on ur scope lens

[zealous edge]

ISO was maxed out, exposure time I think was roughly five minutes

I would say about 300 shots

something like that, maybe 400

[terse smelt]

yeah just do normal phone astro but make sure the top of the phone is pointed very near to where the telescope is pointed

[zealous scaffold]

lol im trying andromeda rn but im having trouble

finding it

[tulip geyser]

^ in a bortle 4 sky you can just barely make it out with the naked eye

[zealous scaffold]

im in a b6

so

[tulip geyser]

Yea, in a b6 you’ll have to guesstimate using star ratios, then do circle patterns to locate it

[tulip geyser]

Tracked?

[terse smelt]

ive found its visible in a finderscope in a bortle 7 or so (9x50)

[tulip geyser]

It’s basically gonna be a smudge, oval smudge, with no key distinct features

[tulip geyser]

Tracked is my issue mounts are so pricey

[zealous edge]

Oh it's not tracked, so you're good!

You can do a lot untracked, actually

[tulip geyser]

5 mins exposure time total?

[zealous edge]

AstroShader lines everything up automatically so you don't necessarily need tracking, I can get eight minutes at most

[zealous edge]

Yes

This is an eight minute exposure of andromeda. It's got a tiny bit more detail, but it's also quite noisy, so you win some and lose some.

[tulip geyser]

I may try to image it again tonight

[zealous edge]

there's also weird red coloring on the top right idk what caused that

[tulip geyser]

Coma?

Exposure time was roughly 1 second then?

[zealous scaffold]

andromeda went below my house thats why i couldnt find it

it dropped like 20 degrees while i was out there so its freezing cold now

[tulip geyser]

Tragic

[zealous scaffold]

i think i love orion nebula and hate galaxies

or orion nebula loves me and galaxies dont

[zealous scaffold]

your untracked right?

[zealous edge]

I think I did half second exposures

to minimize startrailing

[formal notch]

Better than mine (I have not been able to shoot it cause I am in b9 very difficult to locate)

[tulip geyser]

I’m assuming this is because of the amount of light pollution

But it wouldn’t stack and it looks corrupt

Holdup

Tragic considering I was out for 30 mins and it’s 27😭

I was shooting through prolly bortle 7

Usually it’s 4

[zealous scaffold]

your camera doesnt look like its pointed straight down the eyepiece

it looks kinda angled upwards

[tulip geyser]

You may be right. This is my final image

Moonrise will be ~10 on ~the 25th, that’s when I’ll get better pics

[zealous scaffold]

tried to remove the IR flash from my orion nebula pic

[tulip geyser]

What kind of telescope do you have? That is just insane

[zealous scaffold]

celestron nexstar 6se

[tulip geyser]

Takes photos like that and struggles w the galaxies😂no hate

[zealous scaffold]

i just cant find em

in my defense the southern sky which is where orion nebula is, is not very light polluted as its pointing away from the city

every other part of the sky is though

so its really hard to find the galaxies

in one direction theres an air force base, the biggest plane manufacturing place, and a highway, then the other goes straight towards inner city/downtown, and the other direction is towards another highway which is also slightly blocked off by my house

[tulip geyser]

Have you tried bode’s galaxy? Or is that also city covered

Right next to Ursa Major

[zealous scaffold]

yeah bodes is in light polluted sky

it'll prob be difficult to find

[tulip geyser]

Yea it would be

Lemme think for a few. L

Didn’t mean for the L

[zealous scaffold]

i was actually looking for m82 earlier which is right by bodes

thats the one i was searching for for 3 hours last night

[tulip geyser]

You’d have better luck looking for bode’s. Again, it’s like looking for a blotch, it’s not star-like

These galaxies are faint faint

This is how I recommend scouting for it

I don’t even use a finder scope

I just use the sides of my scope and align it that way

If u think u have it do a 3 second exposure or 15 second one to confirm

Final tip, when you’ve generally aligned the scope, try to match the stars you see (their shape) to stars in a star tracker to determine where you’re looking

[zealous scaffold]

star tracker is kinda tricky to use because i have no way of holding my phone ontop of the scope

also because i use my phone to see through the eyepiece because most of these galaxies are so high up it hurts my neck lol

[tulip geyser]

Real^. I use night sky, and find lines and shapes that are unique to what I am viewing, I don’t hold my phone on top of the scope

[zealous scaffold]

i have bad vision which really doesnt help viewing the sky lol

im nearsighted so i cant make out any dim stars without glasses

[tulip geyser]

Me either. What you do is, take your phone out of the mount, so you can see through the eyepiece. Once you’ve determined what your viewing relative to your star app, move your scope to the needed location. I don’t put in my phone until I’ve found my target

Anyways, I love galaxies and photographing them buuut the viewing experience w a 600mm fl 80mm ap. isn’t spectacular

[zealous scaffold]

i think one thing imma def try next time is using my largest eyepiece to locate them then switching out to a smaller one

because i used a 17mm all night

[tulip geyser]

😨😨 I use a 25mm for all the pics taken

[zealous scaffold]

i have a 32, 25, 17, 15, 13, 8, and 6

[tulip geyser]

Andromeda especially is a huge target, and bode’s galaxy is relatively large. I’d start with the 32 fs, and maybe image with the 25 or the 17 depending on if you want both bode’s and cigar or just either or

There’s another galaxy by the two called M 3077

[zealous scaffold]

cigar is brighter than bodes btw, so its more reliable for finding both

[tulip geyser]

Didn’t know that

[tulip geyser]

Train wreck galaxy, check out a good image of it

[zealous scaffold]

very cool looking

yeah if i can get bodes tracked ill definitely image it

[tulip geyser]

I have faith🙏🏻 once you realize what your looking for it’s like someone put a fingerprint on your lens, you’ll get some good pics

[zealous scaffold]

yeah my biggest difficulty is just not knowing what it looks like thru the telescope

only one ive ever seen is andromeda

but that was when i first got my scope

alignment takes a little longer using the app on the computer opposed to the remote but i believe the app is more accurate

you just straighten up the telescope to the northern horizon, then you select 2 stars east of meridian and 2 stars west for alignment, then you just align all of them and it accurately aligns to any object you choose

it'll normally be a little off but thats to be expected

[tulip geyser]

With that said, choose an object like Sirius and take a mental note of which direction it is off, so that when you then go to a different object you can correct for that

Without even knowing what you’re looking for I suppose

If andromeda is a smudge being lit up by the moons glow, then bode’s is likeeeeee 2 times dimmer to spot

[zealous scaffold]

heres my andromeda from a while back

[spring viper]

M51 is easy to photograph with your phone and it will be beautiful, but you need to know how to look for it or use goto

[zealous scaffold]

yeah i have a goto, imma prob use the actual app thats made for it instead of the remote

it takes longer to align overall, but it also goes to targets more accurately

[spring viper]

I haven't been using goto lately due to power issues, my power bank is too weak for goto, only tracking, sad

[zealous scaffold]

i do all my AP from my porch so i just plug it into an outlet

[neon crypt]

I wonder if you could make your own tracking mount for mobile, I can't imagine a phone would be too heavy so some cheap equipment slapped together could surely work if you can do it right

But idk, I'm no engineer

[dense moat]

I star hopped to it in b8-9 and you could literally just see the core as a very faint slightly fat star

Good phone adapter?

Cool picture from the other day as well

[zealous edge]

Someone in the server here has made a tracking mount out of Lego parts and motors, so I'd say it's definitely feasible

[solemn spindle]

As long as it fits your phone and eyepiece you should be fine

[zealous scaffold]

personally, my phone adapter is a 3d printed phone adapter made for a microscope

[terse smelt]

yeah i think i have that one or one very simmilar, very nice

even can barely fit a 2 inch eyepiece

[knotty mica]

Not a good adapter, I have it. Just the NexYZ, it costs more but is 100% worth it.

[zealous scaffold]

nexyz is nice, i just dont like the plastic pieces your supposed to put around your eyepiece

they break really easily, not very flexible

it is a very nice phone adapter though

[edgy talon]

This carried for me, the svbony one

Now it is with my friend forever

[zealous scaffold]

i found andromeda, shooting it rn

[formal notch]

[zealous scaffold]

completely got rid of IR flash with like 5 layers of duct tape

[tulip geyser]

[unborn loom]

At that point buy a dslr

[spring viper]

Yes

[visual burrow]

dont

its a pain to repair it or find parts

i had a xiaomi

ended up going to 15 shops

and xiami themsleves refused to repair it

but when i sent it to their authorised store

they agve it back to me witha a burtn duaghterboard

[spring viper]

All budget smartphones have problems with repair; the manufacturer believes that it is easier to throw them away and buy a new one.

[edgy talon]

Get a uranus-c if possible

[visual burrow]

but samsung is better in such case

the cheapest of samsung is repairable down to the pcb

[dense moat]

First pictures of the Orion nebula!!!!!

I know they suck but they're the first ones that don't look like this:

[vale lintel]

Either your missing it or exposure time isnt high enough

[vale lintel]

Bortle is only 1 part of the equation, local light pollution trumps the general light pollution of an area. I live in a B4 but even at the back of my acre long backyard I still cant get that much clarity just because of the outdoor lights and house

This was my first Orion Pic, still got no tracking so quality wont be much better without some work anytime soon but

[dense moat]

I've got it now, thank you!

I still do have one problem though

When I put my phone one the eyepiece there is this weird ring

You see what I'm talking about

I don't really care about the orange stuff but the ring really annoys me

[elder birch]

I reckon this is the spacing of the phone camera lens to the eye piece.
Try moving it slightly further back or forward and see if it improves.

[dense moat]

Thanks 👍

[terse smelt]

need to be moved farther away and up to the right

[vale lintel]

Like what astroshader said gotta play around with moving it up or down on the lens either that or just zoom in a bit if you deem it better

Zooming normally wont fix it though

[dense moat]

Ok thank guys

Assuming it's not too cloudy I'll be home tonight

[tulip geyser]

My last Orion pic, prolly my 5th

[unborn vigil]

That's amazing. What eyepiece/telescope were you using?

[tulip geyser]

Damn moon is gonna be too bright this weekend, I might take some moon pics

[spring viper]

I'm thinking about it, but I need to buy a coma corrector too. I'll buy a 550d and use it for DSO until I save up for an astrocam. I'm pretty tired of taking photos of DSO on my phone.

But because of university and a car, I can’t save money yet. To buy everything I have to study for 6 hours and work for 8 hours, it’s tough😁

Therefore, for now I will use a 5-year-old phone for astrophotography

[edgy talon]

Uranus-c will not show as much coma as a dslr, enabling you to put the coma corrector to the side for a bit

Still. Get the coma corrector

[vale lintel]

Celestron 130SLT with a plossl 32mm

I also got these that night

[tulip geyser]

I'm thinking about editing a mineral moon

[vale lintel]

Mineral moon with the full moon coming up sounds like a fun project

[tulip geyser]

My thoughts exactly

[tulip geyser]

@smoky scaffold . I can't seem to recreate the quality of your andromeda image. did you apply any post-processing besides Astroshader?

[smoky scaffold]

this one?

[tulip geyser]

Yea

[smoky scaffold]

i can’t remember for sure, but I don’t think so

if I it might’ve been a little bit of color calibration a d background extraction in siril

actually I might’ve since i’ve been having trouble recreating something like that or better

without doing post processing somewhere else

[tulip geyser]

Does siril’s photometric color calibration work for your data?

[smoky scaffold]

nope, none of the data is autofilled

so i don’t bother going through it manually

[tulip geyser]

So you color calibrate manually?

[smoky scaffold]

there’s an option in siril called just “color calibration”

and not photmetric

[tulip geyser]

Alr, I’ll give that a shot

[smoky scaffold]

here’s a little dusk to night timelapse I took yesterday

the clouds added to it I think

[tulip geyser]

Yea that’s pretty cool

Not in siril yet, I think maybe

my current image is a bit dark, how would I go about fixing that in siril

It's just so noisy, I had to crank the ISO bc of the moon

when its dark dark, i'll get better data. lower ISO, longer exposure, longer integration

[terse smelt]

brightened it a bit, also i woulve lowered the iso, also iso doesn't really do anything it just brightens the image so unless your shooting jpeg it does nothing

*i think not sure

[dense moat]

That pic of Jupiter is amazing, what settings did you have for that?

[edgy talon]

Low shutter speed and iso I presume

[dense moat]

I would also presume that

[vale lintel]

I used the regular camera app for Iphone and focused on it and lowered brightness

Iphone 14 Pro

It looks better uncompressed. This was also my second time attempting Jupiter so I guess researching helps a bit lol

[tulip geyser]

Word, I can export in tiff so that’s good to know

[vale lintel]

ref last message

[edgy talon]

Yes

Oh yee yeah

[tulip geyser]

I have this Orion data. The photos I pulled are decent, but was wondering if I could see more nebulosity?

[quartz lantern]

I'm newbie, but i took this picture yestarday with my Orion 80 ST.

[formal notch]

have u tried using astrosurface for stacking and using field rotaiton analysis

i bileave the star trails due to field rotation can be fixed

[tulip geyser]

Hm I haven’t

[formal notch]

ok

[edgy talon]

Only truly fixed by lowering your exposure and keeping M42 centered

[formal notch]

ok i see

thats why i rarely get this

[edgy talon]

I've seen people make 1.25" coma correctors, but the coma I've seen here is literal insanity

[formal notch]

yeah

[edgy talon]

https://stargazerslounge.com/topic/288608-diy-125-coma-corrector/#comment-3163837

[formal notch]

i was lucky to be able to get a software to even stack it properly (taken thou only phone 1/3sec exposures)

[formal notch]

oooh looks cool leeme see

[formal notch]

i can literry make that i have a kellener eyepiece oh wait the fl may be an issue

[edgy talon]

Maybe try it

[formal notch]

ok ill see

[tulip geyser]

anyone have a clue on the difficulty of locating pinwheel galaxy untracked?>

[zealous scaffold]

you should be able to find it by looking inbetween triangulum, andromeda, and pisces

not sure how bright it is

theres a few paths you could probably starhop from

[unborn loom]

Pinwheel

[unborn loom]

Shouldn't be hard depending on the FL. It's close to a bright star soooo............

[zealous scaffold]

i didnt realize there were 3 lol

[unborn loom]

Interesting

[zealous scaffold]

why is triangulum galaxy listed as pinwheel

anyways, pinwheel looks decently easy to find

lots of bright stars right by it

[tulip geyser]

nice, i'll prolly try this path

[terse smelt]

beware, m101 is very faint (in terms of surface brightness) nearby m51 is half the size and much brighter (surface brightness) due to having the same apparent mag

am i explaining this poorly? yes

[iron bear]

[tulip geyser]

I figured. So surface brightness and size are proportional to magnitude?

[terse smelt]

comparison of surface brightness of m101 (left) and m51 (on the right and smaller) m51 is much more blown out

maybe not actually

[tulip geyser]

So they appear relatively the same although one is smaller due to the surface brightness?

(And density)

[terse smelt]

yeah the apparent mag is pretty close (7.9 for m101 or 8.1 for m51)

m51 is just more dense for some reason i dunno

im not galaxoligist

[tulip geyser]

Well I’d like to get whirlpool although bc it’s smaller and even dimmer

M101 might be best to get down and then m51

[terse smelt]

yeah i dont know

i dont know anything

[tulip geyser]

lol I will when I start taking astrophysics classes

Pretty hyped abt that

[terse smelt]

i would go to #🤓-ask-a-nerd if you want actual advice lol

[iron bear]

Widefield Milky Way
.
📋 Exif
📷 Xiaomi 12
⚙ 250x55s ISO 400, F1.8, eq3 with onstep.
Bortle 4
My astrophotography IG: lucasgoncalves_js

[edgy talon]

What plugin for Pix

[edgy talon]

Bottom looks a little wonky but I love those colors

[iron bear]

Timelapse made with 250 raws of the image
These jumps are just the dither I had to do so the image wouldn't be noisy since I was using an equatorial mount.

[neat schooner]

That is absolutely absurd in a good way

[zealous scaffold]

anyone had an issues before with their data being completely red with no blues or greens whatsoever?

[nimble harness]

I am gonna try and use an astrophotography app

Hopefully I will get good results

[plush palm]

Ain't no way that's taken with a phone omg so pretty 😨

[knotty mica]

tried to get flame nebula last night with my 6" dob and my phone, 16frames 5 second exposure, no filters used.

which one is better?

Open in browser Discord messed up the image.

[vale lintel]

1st

[terse smelt]

it isnt, its stellarium

[zealous scaffold]

do you know what percentage of moon this is? i absolutely love it

ah its fine, i wanna say like 65%

maybe 60%

[plush palm]

Oh 💀

[formal notch]

should i do a even more higher mag? (taken thru 114aperture 900mmfl scope using samsung A04e phone untracked 1/3 sec exposures)

discord REALLY compressed the starless one

[unborn loom]

open original on pc and open in browser for mobile then it wont be compressed

[sudden socket]

what program you use for stack

[heavy kestrel]

PIPP, AutoStakkert (AS!3) and Registax 6
Centering in PIPP, Stacking in AS!3 (Probably using 750 Frames, something along 5-20%) and Sharpening / Adjustments via Registax 6

[sudden socket]

danke danke

[patent zodiac]

I could start imaging with my phone again

[lunar beacon]

I'd say the other way around - use as low magnification as possible. Orion has huge amount of details outside

[formal notch]

ok

[formal notch]

@edgy talon coma isnt that bad on my scope

ignore the two blue bright lights on top and bottom

[opaque tundra]

How do you guys not get trailed pics?

[formal notch]

low exposure

[cobalt brook]

Not sure if I have shared this already but that's probably the best shot I've got of Saturn so far

[opaque tundra]

do you all use certain ap apps or just the default camera?

[zealous scaffold]

I use deep sky camera for most things, then for planets I mostly use an app that adds a pro mode camera so I can lower exposure

[opaque tundra]

Do you use an iPhone and if so what camera settings have worked for you?

[zealous scaffold]

im on android, sorry

[opaque tundra]

Ah ok

[vale lintel]

just make sure you tap on the object to focus on it and lower the brightness as needed is planetary

[opaque tundra]

What about for stars and some of the dso

[iron bear]

Orion Nebula (m42)
-reprocessing

📋Exif:
🔭 Toya 114/900mm (4,4 inch) , eq3 mount with onstep + Svbony 20mm 68° eyepiece
📷 Xiaomi Mi9T
⚙ 512x25s + 40x15s iso 800 + 40x15s iso 200 (HDR). cls filter
📌 Contryside of São Paulo, Brazil. Bortle 3 with moon and high clouds
My astrophotography IG: lucasgoncalves_js

[tulip geyser]

How is galaxy seeing w the moon out?

[zealous scaffold]

It might make it more difficult to see them through the scope and you'll probably have to do more int time. Overall it'll just be harder to find the galaxy if anything

Depends on moon phase tho for the most part

[iron bear]

That's a nebula... The moon only makes you have less signal from the objects... By compensating for the exposure time you can still get good results from bright objects..

[tulip geyser]

My question was unrelated to the image.

[tulip geyser]

Bruh ☠️

[vale lintel]

Go for exposer settings or the “night time camera” it will auto set to the time you need

these were all taken with that method

[opaque tundra]

No way! you can do that with a phone??

[spice peak]

Let's not forget the mount and the scope

[solar sapphire]

WOW!

[brisk glen]

iPhone 14-pro 30 seconds exposure

[formal notch]

Guys how bright is the bat nebula

Can I see it like a star with my scope and eyepiece

[ebon lion]

Magnitude 10.50 and about as big as jupiter in the sky so no chance xd

[formal notch]

Oki so any bright targets which are small that I could do (other than Orion)

[ebon lion]

Ring and dumbell are the only ones im sure u can observe, im not rlly into visual:D

[formal notch]

Cool I wanted to first find them then image them

Just wanna practice star hopping

[ebon lion]

Yeee

[iron bear]

M27, Dumbbell
.
📋 Exif:
🔭 114/900mm, eq3 with onstep, 20mm 68 degree eyepiece. Sv905c
📷 Xiaomi 12 (imx766)
⚙ 104x55s ISO 400
📌 Munhoz, Brazil. Bortle 4 ~
My astrophotography IG: lucasgoncalves_js

[neat schooner]

All I can say is how

[opaque tundra]

my exact reaction

[spring viper]

Good processing skills

[fair trellis]

Crab nebula through my 6 inch newt (more like crap nebula) s21 ultra, 30s exposure, iso 3200, and my crappy alt az goto mount, 25mm skywatcher eyepiece

[plush palm]

That's crazy 😍

[zealous edge]

Nah, good processing doesn't matter as much when you do phone astro

He uses a Xiaomi 12 phone, which has what is essentially a literal DSLR camera on it

That's how he's able to get such incredible images, despite using only a phone

sure good processing is of course a necessity for good images

but his phone and the scope he uses are doing most of the work

[zealous edge]

with a normal phone, good processing doesn't really help very much since the images will already be quite poor, being taken by a phone

the Xiaomi 12 is an exception because its camera is comparable to that of a real camera

[opaque tundra]

Oh wow didn’t know xiaomi was moving like that

[zealous edge]

Yeah it's nuts

The camera it has is shockingly good

[opaque tundra]

Another L for iphone 😔

Maybe we should get a xiaomi instead of a dslr lol

[zealous edge]

This is the Xiaomi 12s Ultra, the model that Lucas Gonçalves uses:

[opaque tundra]

Oh look at that big boy

[zealous edge]

It even has a lens attachment

[opaque tundra]

Damn

[zealous edge]

At that point it almost feels like cheating, to use this and call it phone AP

It's just so much more advanced than anything else on the market

[opaque tundra]

Fr I couldn’t even believe it was phone ap

[formal notch]

yay you got it

i havent been able to get anything 😦

[spring viper]

He use common Xiaomi 12

[zealous edge]

Huh ok

even still, the camera on the normal Xiaomi 12 is enormous, about twice the objective lens diameter of an iPhone camera

[zealous scaffold]

xiaomi 12 has really high resolution which most certainly helps with making images look better

twice the resolution my phone has

xiaomi 12 has a 50 MP camera that shoots at 4320p

google pixel 6 pro (my phone) has a 50 MP camera that shoots at 2160p

still incredibly impressed with the results they get, would love to see what i could do with an eq and an actual built in pro mode camera since the google pixel 6 pro doesnt have that

might have to get my hands on a xiaomi 12

[spring viper]

Lucas has used mi9t before, he just knows how to process photos REALLY well

Most of what matters in astrophotography is processing.

and sky quality

[elder birch]

I would be interested in some sort of comparison between smartphones - all other things equal.

Lucas has the skill to capture and process 90 minutes of data, most of the other phone AP shots are 30 seconds to a couple of minutes. At a guess this is the biggest factor

[iron bear]

Mine is standard 12

[zealous edge]

Ah ok got it

I could've sworn I saw someone a while ago say you had the Ultra but I guess they were wrong lol

[patent zodiac]

I have the xiaomi redmi note 12 pro, is that any good?

I mean i have a dedicated astro cam but i wanna go back to phone

[iron bear]

If I'm not mistaken, the Redmi Note 12 Pro uses the same sensor as my Mi12. The imx 766, but have to see if it can do more than 30s on the deepskycamera and if the heat dissipation system covers the camera sensor too... But apparently it is a good cell phone for astrophotography

[opaque tundra]

What do your shots look like before processing?

[patent zodiac]

Awesome, im making my diy phone holder out of 4mm wood and some clamps to hold the phone. Cant wait for clear skies to image orion...

[orchid monolith]

Wait, you have managed to shoot in raw?

Gawd dammit

I chose wrong phone

I could pay 50 bucks more and have Mi12

Instead of Samsung M13...

[terse smelt]

couldnt you just sell it for near new price and get the mi12

[tulip geyser]

This blown Praesepe (beehive cluster)

[ancient rampart]

Got the Pleyades in Leipzig in 2022, i couldnt see it originally but now got it with editing

But this is the best i ever took

[sick kernel]

For a 10 second exposure i think its good and i didn’t have a tripod i had to hold it with my hands thats why some stars have an odd shape

[winged crater]

Is there any way to get over 5s exposures with my phone (samsung galaxy a13 5g)?

[winged crater]

@wind spoke i have tried but not making any difference😕

[crisp river]

15sec 800 iso

[dense moat]

For some reason when I try to zoom in on DSC it doesn't stay zoomed for the end picture, it's very annoying

[formal notch]

Using phone and 114/900 scope and Samsung a04e untracked b8 ~15mins integration time stacked using openlivestaker.
Processed on Adobe ps mobile

[dense moat]

Yeah I just want to zoom in a little so you can see the trapezium

[unborn loom]

Sharp

[lean magnet]

8 seconds 400 iso

[spice gale]

Bro I want a laptop so bad to stack images!

[formal notch]

Use openlivestaker on mobile for live stacking (my Orion image above was purely taken thu phone and edited no pc involved)

[spice gale]

Oh no way, thank you, your orion is crazy beautiful

[formal notch]

Thx 🙂

[spice gale]

I mean it has only 100 downloads

[formal notch]

Yes ik it's superunderrated

[spice gale]

But there are other stacking apps, with 100k+ downloads

[formal notch]

Hmm you might them as well

[formal notch]

Ohhh

I'll also try some other apps

[spice gale]

Ok

And then we can tell our opinions, to find the best app

[formal notch]

Openlivestaker is the best

I tried them motion stackes is bad

Astrocam dosent have live stacking

And deepskycamera also dosent have livestacking (the will add that option later )

[smoky scaffold]

180x3s, milky way was at the horizon so there’s some weird lights at the bottom.

this is the unedited

[sick rain]

What did you use to stack

[smoky scaffold]

astroshader autostack

[bronze jackal]

Re-edit if photo i took in october, no matter what i do i can't seem to get rid of the overly bright center. I should really start doing calibration frames

Perhaps this is a bit better idk

[formal notch]

I guess background extraction in siril should fix it

[tulip geyser]

I have literally bortle 1 ish skies rn

It seems

[bronze jackal]

Lucky

cries in bortle 5

[formal notch]

Lucky
me living in b8

[terse smelt]

mild sniffling in a bortle 7

[zealous edge]

I live in a bortle 7.5, far from ideal

[tulip geyser]

Yo

Sending some interesting pics i think

I did ~.208 s exposure time,

400 shots I think, 2000 ish ISO (far too much I think)

[formal notch]

Nicee

[tulip geyser]

Rounder stars with this method could make a grown man cry 😭 @elder birch

[tulip geyser]

Is this noise or data?? They are very small

Relative to the stars

[smoky scaffold]

I knew it was possible

260x3s (i should’ve done 1 or 2s tho) whirlpool galaxy

was a pain in the booty to find, but gave me promising results

[tulip geyser]

AHH yo I might go back out

What was the ISO and did you use the new feature for it?

@smoky scaffold

[smoky scaffold]

8209 and yes I used the new feature

I had it auto pause every 45

[tulip geyser]

Does it align well when corrected?

[smoky scaffold]

yes, it's actually revolutionary for untracked

[tulip geyser]

How DIM was whirlpool when finding it?

[smoky scaffold]

i'm in a bortle 5-6 and it was a little visible from my phone camera at max iso

like I could see it in the preview

but definitely not with my eye

[tulip geyser]

Double cluster

And how exactly did you find it? Any shapes by it? Easy to walk to?

It’s a great photo btw

[smoky scaffold]

ok hold on ill send some pictures of the star patterns I looked for

[tulip geyser]

I’m assuming you threw it into a software for curves and all that?

[smoky scaffold]

no, that’s just astroshader, but im in siril right now trying to see if I can process it better

first I went here, the tail of the big dipper

[tulip geyser]

Wow man just the noise difference is crazy, and you have a 15 pro right?

[smoky scaffold]

and then went down and to the left (because telescopes flip things) until I found those two stars next to each other

and then went left until I found the triangle shape of stars, and then there’s whirlpool galaxy

[smoky scaffold]

yes

what do you have

[tulip geyser]

Seems simple enough, definitely harder than it seems tho

I have a 14,

[smoky scaffold]

interesting, yours should be of similar quality

[tulip geyser]

Definitely could get better results it seems if I got an upgrade

I’m not sure

Let’s see

[smoky scaffold]

14 pro, pro max?

or standard 14

[tulip geyser]

Just standard

[smoky scaffold]

oh its probably the 12MP vs 48MP then

[tulip geyser]

Yea☠️

Ima see what can be done about me getting an upgrade fr

[smoky scaffold]

lmao

if you upgrade and are just wanting the camera, standard 15 should do

its also 48mp

[tulip geyser]

The final results don’t have to be dooky all the time tho

[smoky scaffold]

wow I was gonna say

[tulip geyser]

I think I could resolve whirlpool, but with a much lower iso with a much longer time

[smoky scaffold]

that bodes and cigar one is really good

[tulip geyser]

It was a great night that was, first images I took of any galaxy with my telescope

I think yours resolves the arms better however

There was this weird thing when I tried the tracking method

I’m not even sure to be honest☠️☠️

[smoky scaffold]

dear god

did you realign it to the exact spot of the highlighted image

[tulip geyser]

No bro my stand is dog

😭

[smoky scaffold]

do you have an eq or dob

or like tabletop

[tulip geyser]

Erm

👁️👄👁️

A refractor

Just a good ol guy

[smoky scaffold]

gotcha

[tulip geyser]

This is where the magic happens

[smoky scaffold]

its not bad

but like

do u shoot from inside

through a window

[tulip geyser]

Hell nah

I have once

But of the moon

[smoky scaffold]

good because thats a cardinal sin

also im pretty sure my telescope is a little larger

so thats why i might be getting better results

but im surprised thats the telescope you have

i thought it was similar to mine

[tulip geyser]

I remember yours being larger by a dozen or so mm

In ap

600mm 80mm

[smoky scaffold]

mine is 114mm

ii have the orion starblast eq

[tulip geyser]

Okay okay

I’ll probably get something much more grandeur when I’m outta college

[tulip geyser]

Using this and ur other to find constellations and other things

Scorpius is on the right

[spring viper]

It’s better to upgrade to Google Pixel, iPhone cannot take high-quality pictures of the sky.

[zealous edge]

Duuuude this is sick, this gives me some motivation to try the whirlpool myself

I'm planning on getting the same scope as you have too, coincidentally

just the dobsonian version, not the EQ

[smoky scaffold]

yea get the dob, the eq version only helps out a little bit

[tulip geyser]

do u need to realign it perfectly?

[smoky scaffold]

well when I realigned for whirlpool, I did almost exactly

sometimes a little behind the highlight image

as close as I could get

[tulip geyser]

right

I just wonder bc mine was so horribly mangled lmao

[tulip geyser]

somethin is off yknow

☠️

[lean magnet]

orion but through binocular this time

[zealous edge]

It's really cool to look at the Orion Nebula through binoculars or a monocular, I imagine it's even cooler to see it in a super low bortle sky.

[opaque tundra]

yea its sick

[smoky scaffold]

500x1s

I wonder what the other fuzzy spots are

I also don’t know why there’s always a donut in the middle 😭idk how to get rid of it without buying a better adapter

[opaque tundra]

thats amazing, what scope and phone are you using

[terse smelt]

i think the donut in the middle is the phone being too close to the eyepiece

[lean magnet]

stacked

[smoky scaffold]

14 pro, orion starblast

[smoky scaffold]

which means I need a better adapter

[terse smelt]

what adapter you using?

[opaque tundra]

the celestron adapter is nice, i recently bought one and its soo much easier to use than those cheap ones

[smoky scaffold]

the one that came with the scope

[formal notch]

Well the only way to fix it is to move the phone a little bit back

[terse smelt]

you can tilt the phone up a little bit

[cobalt brook]

How?

[smoky scaffold]

as much integration as possible

[cobalt brook]

This is like the best I can get with my set up

or this

[neat schooner]

What’s the set-up if you don’t mind me asking?

[cobalt brook]

It's in my profile

Easier to show people that way

Oh, I forgot to add the NexYZ mount I have woops

[neat schooner]

That’s a smart idea, I didn’t even notice it’s mentioned in your name.

[tulip geyser]

the moon was crazy bruh

[smoky scaffold]

pinwheel, 500x2s

Uncompressed versions are better but they’re too large and I can’t send them

[formal notch]

Phone only (even though it's noisy I didn't expect phone to be able to produce round stars ) M41 it's down of sirius

[tulip geyser]

huge

[opaque tundra]

what bortle r u in

[smoky scaffold]

5-6

[crisp river]

Can any one tell me how to use openlive stacker

On a phone

[formal notch]

https://github.com/artyom-beilis/OpenLiveStacker/wiki/Open-Live-Stacker-Manual here is the manual

[patent zodiac]

Whirlpool galaxy 30s exposure

[patent zodiac]

Edited version

I missed phone astrophotography

Ap with a dedicated astro cam is such a pain in yk what.
This night i found quite a lot of galaxies that i could get to image beacuse i was so intrested by looking at them live

Also a test on orion

[brisk glen]

Telescope?????

[tulip geyser]

Telescope and exposure and ISO and stacks?

[formal notch]

move your phone a bit away form the lens till the white area is evenly spread

[formal notch]

M41

• 114/900 scope
• phone
• untracked not much exposure

[patent zodiac]

SW 130/900 NEWT with a eq2 mount and a motor. 30s exposure and 3200 iso

[patent zodiac]

No stacking just a single frame edited in lightroom
130/900 newtonian
Eq2 ra motor
30s exposures 3200 iso

[formal notch]

Single frame is supposed to look evenly lighted

Wait I'll try to fetch a frame for you

[patent zodiac]

I edited it in lightroom i didnt even plan to do visual but when i found the whirlpool i decided to make a 5 minute phone holder and i took a 30s exposure

[patent zodiac]

Here is the original

[patent zodiac]

@iron bear sorry for ping but i know u use deep sky camera for imaging, how do you stack the data in dss? When i drag the data it doesnt let me import the data in

[iron bear]

No problem! I stack in pixinsight...

Have you tried importing instead of dragging and dropping?

[patent zodiac]

I did but it only lets me import 1 by 1 and i have around 150 frames. When i get home im going to try in pixinsight

[patent zodiac]

Gawd dayum pixinsight costs 300 euros

Only for a licence

No way

[crisp river]

@formal notch Indian?

Same bro

[formal notch]

Yes

[crisp river]

Can you pls tell me how to use openlice stacker

[iron bear]

Press ( Ctrl + A)

Maybe will import all

[crisp river]

Like iso setting you use

Cause I tryed 600iso after three shots image was white

[formal notch]

I just use the max allowed by my phone (1600)

[crisp river]

Hmm

[formal notch]

Turn auto streach off

[crisp river]

Kk I will try

[formal notch]

Also try to take darks normally it fixes it

[crisp river]

Kk

[patent zodiac]

Ok ill try

[smoky scaffold]

what targets should I image tonight, im going extra far to a dark spot

[tulip geyser]

Bro lemme see what ur bodes looks like, im gonna image that tonight

Maybe attempt the Leo’s triplet :0

@smoky scaffold

Try to get some nebulosity from the seven sisters

Lots of good ideas

[smoky scaffold]

sets too early

[smoky scaffold]

I can try that

[tulip geyser]

It’s in my sky like all night rip

I’m gonna go high ISO, 3 sec exposure times, and maybe try the alignment feature

I just can’t align it properly w my shitty mount

[smoky scaffold]

leo triplet will be around +40 degrees

never tried it, good idea

[tulip geyser]

It’s a hard target fs,

Super high ISO, good exposure time, I may be able to get Pleiades nebulosity :0

This was small ISO, short exposure time like 400 stacks

[smoky scaffold]

might wanna put your high midtones up

it makes the center of the stars not black

[tulip geyser]

Right the stars have dark spots : /

[smoky scaffold]

rule of thumb, if you turn up regular midtones, turn up high midtones with it