Phone Astrophotography

[floral parcel]

Jupiter and Saturn through my reflector

[runic socket]

Skywatcher 127 mak with my s20 phone and phone holder and a 32mm plossl

[solar sapphire]

Jupiter photo that I took a month ago

[smoky scaffold]

andromeda galaxy through a cheap 25mm plossl eyepiece
50x3s livestack iphone 11 pro processed in siril

[wise grotto]

Managed to take these photos of andromeda with just my phone on a simple app

[floral parcel]

Why is there a color divide between two sections of the photo? Also, what is this “simple app” because I want it.

[wise grotto]

The colour dividing is form stacking

The app is called AstroShader

[smoky scaffold]

astroshader, only available for iphones currently

[floral parcel]

Alright I downloaded it.

[sick kernel]

Every picture is 10 second exposure

[smoky scaffold]

shoot in raw format if you can

[ebon lion]

Same ig:D

[sick kernel]

@smoky scaffold ok

@wind spoke you are right

Six star system in ursa major

[edgy talon]

Shoot in raw ffs

Get a dew heater please

[edgy talon]

Dbe

Really nice

Get a uranus-c, or better a cooled one from Meow Astro

[smoky scaffold]

if that means background extraction i did

[edgy talon]

You need a better one

[runic socket]

I wish I had the cash to get a cooled camera

When your stuck at work and it's clear skies 😒

[edgy talon]

Get workin

[potent gorge]

@edgy talon is offically the new edon cox

[runic socket]

I'm allowed a break now and again 😂

[edgy talon]

Nah I won't tell some1 to get a powerseeker or stare at the sun

[wind spoke]

Thanks

[fiery rover]

damn your pfp is amazing

[ebon lion]

Xd

[formal notch]

I FInally got a hint of nebulosity (114/900 scope and samsung A04e

[edgy talon]

I'm sorry dawg

That's just a gradient

[terse smelt]

chronic schizophrenia

[fading bobcat]

Very appreciated, wanting to ask, is there a possibility you have an unprossed video? I would like to compare slightly, to see if I'm on the right path here.

[fading bobcat]

Cool, good app to possibly look at!

Also, do you recommend the lite version or the pro version of that app?

[spring viper]

Pro version is better

[fading bobcat]

Nice, will get that then.

[spring viper]

I think there are other such apps

For free

[fading bobcat]

Definetly, but probably better than my stock pro mode on my galaxy camera app.

Also, do you have any footage of Jupiter you would have used to make a final image?

I'm trying to compare mine to someone's for a rough idea of what I should look for

[fading bobcat]

Wowza that's cool! What settings (like iso and shutter speed) did you use?

Thin clouds began to move in last night, maybe affected it a little

Also discord compression is going to make me cry

[terse smelt]

increase exposure, also get a barlow or switch to a higher power lens (assuming clouds dont exist)

[fading bobcat]

Ok, I beleive this is my 20mm with a 2x barlow, perhaps just stick to a 10mm lens?

[terse smelt]

yeah, or barlow and 10mm

seems quite undersampled

[fading bobcat]

I noticed the 10mm with the barlow was a little poor for seeing last night, should I consider investing in smaller lens?

[terse smelt]

lens wouldnt change seeing

[fading bobcat]

Without the barlow?

Probably, I'm just planning ahead at this point, clouds for days are ahead. Was lucky to get to test my stuff last night

[terse smelt]

20mm + barlow would only be better if you needed the eye relief or the fov of the 20mm

if they were identical in terms of those factors then the 10mm would be better*

[fading bobcat]

Ok, I understand increasing the exposure, would there be a good ISO you'd recommend that doesn't make it all too bright?

[fading bobcat]

Gotcha

[terse smelt]

lower is better, i run with 50 and a 30/ of a second exposure but that would depend on the telescope

[fading bobcat]

I beleive its f/5. 650mm focal length with a 130mm inch apeture I beleive

[terse smelt]

yeah that would be more exposure

[fading bobcat]

Collimation has been recently done, I had an issue with it a while back

[fading bobcat]

Ok, so crank up the exposure and keep the iso lower?

[terse smelt]

depends, what exposure are you using right now?

[fading bobcat]

1/60

That's the highest my built in camera app allowed me, but I bought a pro app, so I can go higher

It supports 1/5th of a second

[terse smelt]

one or two steps higher on the exposure with a 10mm lens will most likely produce the optimal results 1/40th maybe

[fading bobcat]

Alright, I'll test out a few exposures on firday, turns out I'll have a clear night

Appreciate the help man! Thanks

[terse smelt]

no prob

[spring viper]

I dont remember

[fading bobcat]

All good. Got some help already. Thanks for your help.

[plush palm]

Yo dude, why is there a whirlpool towards Andromeda?

[wind spoke]

M22

that's a house

[ebon lion]

I want to attach my phone to my ap rig just for fun but its not worth the time cuz its limited xd ☁️

[chilly vessel]

looks like one of my old pictures of omega cent

[terse smelt]

when the jpeg is compression

[fading bobcat]

@terse smelt , opinion?

Maybe tad out of focus...

[terse smelt]

seems like a bit of dew somewhere, pretty good though

[fading bobcat]

Maybe poor viewing today?

This perhaps is a lil better

[terse smelt]

exposure seems good. although due to the compression that phone videos have it might be better to take several raws

[fading bobcat]

\

ta da

[wild flame]

threw my phone on my rig for fun since I already had it set up but my camera was feeling depressed

20 minutes give or take

[smoky scaffold]

big dippah

[sour turret]

man, one of these days ill manage to get andromeda galaxy

Jupiter 11/7/23 got GRS!

[terse smelt]

WHOA

[wind spoke]

Which phone/camera did you use and what is bortle scale at your location

[sour turret]

Imaging Date & Time:
7/11/2023 ~12:40AM CST

Imaging Location:
Melissa, TX, USA

Equipment Used:
Astrosmaster 130EQ Telescope (130mm aperture 650mm focal length f/5) equipped with Celestron Smartphone Mount, Celestron 2x Barlow Lens, Celestron 10mm eyepeice, Celestron RA Motor Drive.

LG Velvet 5G Smartphone (Android 13)
LM-G900 (1.8mm aperture 4.806mm focal length f/1.9)

Image Details:
Image shot with Motioncam android app.
1:46 minutes of raw video footage (2644 frames) at ISO 50, 1/100 of a second exposure time at 30 fps, 12mp resolution 4000x3000. Footage rendered into individual raw uncompressed DNG files with vignette correction totaling 59.1GB data.

Resulting image preprocessed in PIPP (converted uncompressed DNG files into a SER playback file), processed in Autostakkert! 3 (a total of 3472 frames stacked as a result of duplicated good frames in PIPP), post processed in Siril and Darktable.

[fading bobcat]

Minor improvements last night. Can't seem to sharpen it any in Registax...

[fading bobcat]

Bro casually produces an amazing image with the Astromaster 130

Also, does shooting at 30fps rather than 60fps make a large difference?

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat Thank you. My phone wont do 60 fps. 30 and below.

@fading bobcat how many frames for your shot?

@fading bobcat I would think the only difference between 30 fps and 60 fps is the exposure time. If your camera aperture is large enough you should be able to get thousands of frames in a couple of minutes.

[chilly vessel]

what fps options u have

personally before I upgraded my phone camera to the uranus-c, I would shoot in basic definition quality at 120fps

[fading bobcat]

Shooting in pro mode, i have FHD 60, 30, 24fps, UHD 60, 30 24fps, and HD 30. I shoot in UHD 60fps

[fading bobcat]

I get 1/60th exposure, which is what I shoot at with 60 fps.

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat raw video correct?

[chilly vessel]

I'd say UHD 60 is fine

[wind spoke]

According to light pollution map I live in bortle class 4 area but it just like bortle 6 sky I can just see some bright stars

And anyone tell me why

[chilly vessel]

can u send the map link

[fading bobcat]

Is there an option for raw video in Samsungs camera settings?

It's pro mode, so I expect it to be able to take .raw

Just turned it on... should make a difference

Clear skies tonight, so will go for it again.

[fading bobcat]

Sounds good. How long you think I should shoot for, 30 seconds, 15 seconds?

I've done both, using 20mm + 2x barlow. So I'm thinking the smart option is 30 seconds.

[chilly vessel]

yes

u should try 1 min too for the sake of it

so

[fading bobcat]

Ok, so I also have a separate camera app, there's no raw option

There's Jpeg, WebP, and PNG

[fading bobcat]

It's all untracked, but I'll try up to a minute.

@sour turret do you film in .raw format?

Asking, trying to find an app that films in .raw

[fading bobcat]

Weird question, how long were you outside?

Usually, you need to be outside for a while (30 minutes is good) to let your eyes adjust, then you'll see more.

[iron bear]

South Magellanic Clouds
.
📋 Exif
📷 Xiaomi 12 + eq3 equatorial mount.
⚙61x60s ISO 400.
📌 Mg, Brazil. Bortle 4

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat Motioncam. I dont know if there is an ios version but I bet there is

[fading bobcat]

It's android, so yeah

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat capturing raw video is a game changer. More frames, less time, more features. I realized it became essential for Jupiter. I read a bit of a soft rule is, 3 min for Jupiter and 5 min for Saturn. Otherwise you'll end up stacking movement of planetary feature. I also read you can derotate but I'm not doing that. Must get pure raw data!

[fading bobcat]

Cool! Where's that at?

[fading bobcat]

Also I am on android.

[sour turret]

https://www.cloudynights.com/topic/788267-is-3-minutes-too-long-for-jupiter/

[fading bobcat]

Is there any settings I need to change in app for RAW videos?

[fading bobcat]

Yeah. I got that, is there any settings in app I need to change/would be best to change?

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat these are my latest settings.

[fading bobcat]

Done

Assuming they'll work pretty well

[sour turret]

I did not crop 60% before as I didn't know if that would impact resolution or not and didn't want to take the chance. I reached out to the app developer and he assures me it just simply crops down without affecting resolution. This is great news as this will give me more frames with smaller file size. My micro sd card is only 64 GB

[fading bobcat]

How large are files usally?

[sour turret]

you will have vignette in your images with these settings. Also do not clip your highlights with his settings. Means be careful with your exposure time or you will have blown out areas. Best to underexpose a little. However, I think 1/100 second exposure time may have been a little too under exposed. Try 1/60 instead.

[fading bobcat]

[sour turret]

full resolution 4000 x 3000 is 24.01 MB

[fading bobcat]

I shoot at 1/60

[sour turret]

60% cropped is 3.85 MB

[fading bobcat]

How do you counter the vignetting?

[sour turret]

I used to shoot 1/50 but was afraid was too bright. But now going back and forth in my head about that. Or somewhere in between.

Counter vignetting by selecting correct vignette. But means that your dng will have digital processing in it. Best to take flat calibration frames and remove it that way

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat I doubt you would even see the vignette at cropped down to 1600 x 1200 and furthermore image will be cropped more before the stack. I crop down to 448 x 448

[fading bobcat]

Yeah. In Pipp it crops it down alot, usually makes my image look really bad so I increase it a lil

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat I'd say its appropriately cropped when planetary mode is selected. What gear do you have? Scope, lenses, etc

[fading bobcat]

130/650mm telescope, so it's f/5.

Using a 20mm lens with a svbony 2x barlow.

Camera is a galaxy s20fe phone cam

The I use pipp, registax, and autostakkert

[fading bobcat]

It's just abnormally pixelated

But I can try letting it do its thing when I process later tonight.

@sour turret I do have a 10mm lens that is usable, but is more difficult to use with my phone.

[little portal]

Someone have Samsung galaxy A32?And know how to take good shoot with it?

[fading bobcat]

What type of shots?

Planetary or DSO?

[little portal]

Planetary

[fading bobcat]

Ok, so with planets, you don't take images

You record short videos and process them in software like Pipp, Registax, and Autostakkert

I'm not the one to be telling you the best ways to photograph planets though, as I'm still learning

So, if I were you I'd go to #🤓-ask-a-nerd

[little portal]

Soo you prefer videos I took 39 shots of jupiter but its don't look like jupiter

[fading bobcat]

Yeah, you take videos.
Mines not the greatest, but I processed a video and got this

I really suggest you go to #🤓-ask-a-nerd and ask more professional people than myself

[little portal]

On my phone i see this

[fading bobcat]

What equipment do you use?

I know about your phone, but what telescope, lens, etc

[little portal]

Sky watcher 130/900 and barlow x2 and x10 lens

[fading bobcat]

Ok, so that's pretty solid, compared to what I got...

You got a 20mm lens?

[little portal]

25

Wide eye

[fading bobcat]

Hm

If the 10x lens looks good with the barlow (visually) you'd probably be ok to stick with that

But yeah, it looks like that in your image cause the exposure.

[little portal]

The foto I send I take with barlow x2 and x10 lens

[fading bobcat]

When you film Jupiter, bump your iso down (I use around 50), and then your exposure can be around 1/60th of a second

[fading bobcat]

I personally zoom in with my phone after focusing.

So it makes it look bigger

[little portal]

I try

[fading bobcat]

Again, possibly go into #🤓-ask-a-nerd and ask there, and try to get a more experienced person to help out. But I wish you clear skies, good luck.

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat I use celestron phone mount. Should work well with 10 mm eye peice. Mine has 2 x barlow with 10 mm eyepiece. Also, now that you will be taking raw video frames of jupiter, it will come out way better. Especially with 2000 + frames. Things start looking right at 1800 frames but ive gotten the red spot with some detail with as little as 500.

@fading bobcat you basically have same specs as I do.

[floral parcel]

Turning the iso down will help bring out some detail in the photo

You can do that on your iPhone camera by dragging you finger next to your focus point

[sour turret]

keep iso down to the least possible. Then adjust exposure time. If exposure time is longer than 1/10 you risk streaking. My 2 cents... Only works for planetary. For nebulae exposure time shall be in seconds to minutes. Must have good stability.

Take test shots

[fading bobcat]

I imagine you pre process multiple videos in PIPP and join them together to process later?

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat no sir. I preprocess the whole duration of the frames in PIPP.

[fading bobcat]

Clarify please?

[frigid sparrow]

Neverwhere please dont try and ping an entire server :/

[sour turret]

@frigid sparrow thank you for the reminder, I actually dont intend to or like doing that

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat I have a process to get prepared for the shot. in this case, now a raw video shoot using Motioncam android app (used to be with DeepSkyCamera Beta), so I will keep the scope of my latest technique. If you would like to know the specifics of the process before the shot, let me know and I'll explain that separately. When it comes to processing in PIPP, I use quality weighing option and push all of the top quality frames to the beginning of the video file, in this case a .ser file. NOTE: I suggest downloading a ser player program. Conceptually, since my intention is to get nothing but good quality frames at the shortest amount of time to get all of the planetary feature frozen in time ("good" SNR stacked), I will process the entire load of frames captured anyway, and analyze the quality later in the next step which is using AS!3 to stack the images. If i did good, about 75% of the frames will be acceptable for stacking. In the case of the latest Jupiter image i posted, all 2644 frames were processed in PIPP, but only about 70-75% of them got stacked, as I got picky about it. I intentionally looked through all of the frames in AS!3 and analyzed in the ser video player, and determined that 3472 out of 4627 (1983 got added as duplicate frames by PIPP) were any good for the stack. I did do some trial and error here and I underexposed the frames (1/100th of a second exposure time plus 30 fps) So I also had to stretch the the histogram white point 75% to brighten it up.

@fading bobcat honestly that wasn't good enough either. The stack in AS!3 was the same detail (best i had gotten) but much too dark, so I auto estimated the RGB in the ser player options in ser player app to brighten it up some more and then stack that version. I named it the "brighter version test". That was the one that came out better (only because it was brighter). Then I post processed in Siril, then Darktable.

[fading bobcat]

Would siril be an improvement compared to processing on Registax?

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat yes. i say this because, although registax has an amazing wavelet filter, it causes the image to become flat. the reason i had to use Siril is because of the chromatic aberration i noticed when using Motioncam and capturing so many frames. They say, chromatic aberration is caused by the optics not by the app, but i only see this 'green around the edges' issue when using Motioncam. I have changed by camera raw mode to RAW10 so i wonder if that will "fix" it. otherwise, it will be fixed with the option to get rid of that green mess altogether in Siril.

[fading bobcat]

Well, I'm preparing to get film atm, will not be able to text.

So I might have to leave my questions until after.

Might be able to sit in speak easy, but that's about it.

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat all good. i keep getting better and better at planetary imaging using smartphone camera and the same Celestron Astromaster 130 scope, so i am willing to share the knowledge.

[fading bobcat]

I've gotten better in the matter of nights cause of people like you. About to start filming in a minute, so I may not be able to text.

[chilly vessel]

the astromaster series doesn't really have decent optics, so expect aberration when using it

[fading bobcat]

Should I shoot with a 20mm lens + 2x barlow or a 10mm lens?

Thinking the 2x barlow

[chilly vessel]

10 mm would be more clean
putting the 20mm in a 2x barlow will just add more things in the light path

[fading bobcat]

Ok, so ill try the 10mm

[chilly vessel]

alr

[fading bobcat]

Any of you available to be in speak easy vc, in case I have a inquiry?

Also viewing is incredible tonight, might I add

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat not here in north texas lol

[fading bobcat]

Lol

[sour turret]

ill be radio silent for a while ...

[chilly vessel]

i'm free rn

[fading bobcat]

Lovely, care to accompany me?

[chilly vessel]

why not

[fading bobcat]

Hazzah

Let me put some headphones on, I suppose

In speakeasy, whenever you want

@sour turret should I use infinite focus in Motionca?

@chilly vessel Lost connection, mb

@chilly vessel Can't stay connected, no vc I guess.

[chilly vessel]

oof

[chilly vessel]

focus using the moon

currently IO is near jupiter, use that to check focus

[fading bobcat]

Alright

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat no infinite focus. Use scope manual focus to the best of your ability. Use Motioncam focus as fine focus.

[pure ledge]

Well, you should be pleased to know that my mount has officially been Onsteped. Check out a quick stack of 10 2 sec exposures of the Orion Nebula on iPhone SE 2

Still figuring things out and badly need a coma corrector, but I think it’s pretty good for the time it took me

Although, weirdly enough, I only have a large diffraction gradient in one direction despite me having a cross style spider.

[fading bobcat]

@sour turret how do I export it?

A video*

[chilly vessel]

google drive

[terse smelt]

EYY IM WALKIN HERE

[wind spoke]

"Light pollution map" https://www.lightpollutionmap.info

[wind spoke]

Hmm that can be an explanation

[chilly vessel]

outdated

it states 2015 in the description so

[wind spoke]

So which wed site should I use

To know bortle scale

[edgy talon]

HOOTAYYYY

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat go to manage videos and select render dng using the recommended settings on the screen shot I sent you. I recommend that you use micro sd card storage for the rendered dng, but if you have the internal storage space, use it as it writes faster.

@fading bobcat if you want to export the video, you will have to pay for the app. No need to do this as you can take the individual dng files (use render dng option) and transfer them to your computer and use PIPP to preprocess them into a ser file. Download a ser player program. https://astrowhat.com/resources/ser-player.89/. You can also find a ser player for linux if you are running that OS. use that ser file in Autostakkert.

[solar sapphire]

Pleiades

[fading bobcat]

@sour turret @chilly vessel

Compared to my last few

Thank you for your help

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat there you go! How many frames was that one?

[fading bobcat]

I had a poor night last night, I beleive it was a 15 second video at 30fps, then used the best 25%

I want to shoot more tonight!

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat you'll get significantly better results with more frames. So, your shot was 1/60 exposure time, and you used PIPP, Autostakkert and registax6?

[fading bobcat]

Yes, also weirdly touched up some on ps 😵‍💫

I looked at trying it on siril, but it seemed as if my results weren't as good, personally.

[fading bobcat]

1/60, and 50 iso.

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat perfect. Maybe Lightroom would have worked for post processing?

[fading bobcat]

I can always try that too.

But since I was on my pc already, I gave ps a shot

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat only 10 mm eyepeice?

[fading bobcat]

My 10mm lens wasn't as good as 20mm + 2x barlow

I feel if I do get a better 10mm lens, it'd outperform

Any 10mm recommendations?

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat hmm, strange you should get better detail with 10 mm lens and 2x barlow. Thats what I used.

[fading bobcat]

Oh you want it partnered with my barlow?

I still think it'd look worse, since the 20mm is better than the 10mm

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat thats how I do it. 5 mm focal length

[fading bobcat]

You got a recommendation for a 10mm lens?

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat in my experience 20 mm just makes it brighter, due to the properties of optical magnification. My 2 x barlow and 10 mm eye peice are Celestron. Nothing special. 10 mm eyepeice came with scope and the barlow I bought on amazon.

[fading bobcat]

Yeah, I'll look into getting a better 10mm lens

Especially if they're better than the 20mm

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat its only "better" in that it allows you to see details better. Rather its just magnifying the details that are already there. You wont see those details nearly as well on your phone screen but the signal is there. And when you feed all of that signal into Autostakkert it all shows up 🙂

[chilly vessel]

well done

[solar sapphire]

Is this Andromeda

[versed crow]

I think yess.

[narrow nexus]

Jupiter. Very bad sseing the day i did this.

Oh god discord compression makes it appear even worse than it already was

[sour turret]

@narrow nexus looks like heavy use of wavelet filter too

[narrow nexus]

Yes

Maybe

Well there are more details though

[smoky scaffold]

yes

[solar sapphire]

cool

[spice gale]

My very first Orion Nebulae, with a Samsung a52s phone, very happy with the results, could def be better

[dense gorge]

Hey man, glad to see you here! Amazing results with MotionCam 🙂

[sour turret]

@dense gorge thank you! I really didnt think that shot would come out ok. Took too long to get set up. Saturn was on its way to set in the west and swimming in light pollution. I went ahead and nabbed over 5000 frames in around 10 minutes. Came out ok, wish it was somewhere much closer to zenith in the sky at ~ 11 pm CST

[floral parcel]

Took these last night with my phone and a Celestron 50mm travel scope

[sour turret]

@floral parcel thats awesome, I havent gotten Andromeda yet

[plush palm]

Orion nebula and flame nebula

[hybrid dawn]

The moon and Jupiter

[sour turret]

well I guess if yall are going to throw down orion nebulae pics 😁 taken october 15

[chilly vessel]

orion rises directly above me, will shoot soon

[sour turret]

@chilly vessel one of my favorites!

[pure ledge]

taken 3 days ago

[chilly vessel]

hehehehe

guess who cooking with s23 ultra, r6 mark 2 and uranus-c

[patent zodiac]

Bro where tf do you live i need to go there so i can image orion the whole night

[chilly vessel]

1 degree off the equator

also don't come here pls
it's b9

[patent zodiac]

Damn, perfect but not so perfect place

[chilly vessel]

if it works
jk it fcking doesn't

[smoky scaffold]

bro was dreaming 😭

[sour turret]

better color I think

[versed crow]

Niceeee✨✨💯

[sour turret]

@solemn spindle daaaaaaaang, thats awesome. How many frames over how much time?

[fading bobcat]

Bumped up the exposure in post a tad, to bring the moons out

This is the untouched one.

[solemn spindle]

about 30 seconds 900 frames

[sour turret]

@solemn spindle are you using pipp to preprocess?

@fading bobcat you used 20 mm eyepeice for that shot?

[dense gorge]

Did you tried Siril for stacking and processing?

[sour turret]

@dense gorge stretched histogram white point in pipp and improved processing in Siril yes. Finished with Darktable

@dense gorge I added two extra frames in pipp and still used Autostakkert to stack. 43 ap.

[dense gorge]

I think, you should consider Registax or waveSharp for sharpening

[sour turret]

@dense gorge I've flirted with registax on sharpening but it is very touchy and can make images look flat and lose contrast. I had not heard of wavesharp though

@dense gorge I assume above image is wavesharp, that is amazing

[dense gorge]

wavesharp is a new thing from Registax dev 🙂 I actually used wavesharp

https://github.com/CorBer/waveSharpDevelopment

[sour turret]

@dense gorge do you think registax as better at stacking than Autostakkert? Or is registax just better at sharpening than autostakkert?

[dense gorge]

I personally prefer this

1. Align and Stacking over Autostakkert, but I recently sticked only to Siril.
2. Histogram and basic processing - Siril
3. Sharpening - Siril, not amazing, but good. Registax is solid, but wavesharp is superior.
4. Final touch only through Siril (Croping, colors), I finally left GIMP, Darktable and I finally can use only FIT and use best format, no more TIF.

btw: Don't underestimate bias frames even at planety capturing, smartphone sensor is super small and we want to maximaze signal much as possible 🙂

[sour turret]

yeah, i was thinking of switching over to FIT as well. I have not taken the time to do nearly all of the work in siril yet.

[dense gorge]

Well, in my opinion Siril is best open source software right now and devs + community pushing a lot of work. Only better software is Pixinsight but very complex and closed source and you need to pay 🙂

[sour turret]

@dense gorge also have only taken darks, have not used bias frames or flats yet and thats next on my to do list of improvements. Problem is in lack sufficient time to do a lot of these things, but I know its worth the setup.

@dense gorge I like free too lol

[dense gorge]

Well, I've no problem to pay software, if software mets quality

[sour turret]

@dense gorge I need to learn to use siril to its fullest potential and graduate from pipp and autostakkert

[dense gorge]

Darkframes, hmm great idea, they contains bias noise + dark itself. Some people just only use dark frames, because it's easier 😄

In the short exposure, I don't see much benefits of darkframes

[dense gorge]

btw: As soon as amount of frames increase I decided to use Siril only on Linux, I reached much faster processing speed than Windows.

[sour turret]

@dense gorge I noticed that pipp seemed to only recognize darks and flats for processing master frames, but not bias. Its funny you mention the bias frames because i was thinking I ought to take them anyway. They are not hard to take.

@dense gorge good to know as I prefer using nix. I need to upgrade my LTS release. I assume siril is in a repo?

[dense gorge]

Yes, they have Siril in repo. BTW: Nix is great choice 🙂

I personally use Arch Linux and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed 😄

[sour turret]

@dense gorge kubuntu here

[dense gorge]

Nice

[sour turret]

@dense gorge I think im on 20.04 😬

[solemn spindle]

Yes

[dense gorge]

Device: S23 Ultra 10x cam build-in.
Iso 1000
Exposure 271 x 1,3s (untracked)
Cpatured on MotionCamera
Processed in Siril

[wind spoke]

Did you used telescope our your S23 Ultra is To Good!

[dense gorge]

No, I only used buil-in camera 10x optical zoom camera - equal to 230mm f/4.9. I also slightly edited that, these images are even better a little bit. 😄

[wind spoke]

Kk

[fading bobcat]

20mm, 2x barlow

[sour turret]

@solemn spindle looks like you almost got the red spot!

@fading bobcat I got my 6 mm eyepeice so when is get the opportunity I will be shooting Jupiter again.

@fading bobcat I need to clean my primary and secondary mirrors and see if I can fine tune collimation even more. Really good collimation is probably the most important aspect to astrophotography. I think next to collimation is fine focus. Do everything you can to take great shots so you have to do very little in post 🙂

@solemn spindle what hardware are you working with?

[solemn spindle]

iphone 11 and skywatcher 150p

[solemn spindle]

no

[fading bobcat]

Yeah, I'm wanting to get a "smaller" one than my 10mm lens, but then go wider than my 20mm lens, any recommendations?

[glass gust]

Moon photo dump from today

[smoky scaffold]

sharpening go insane

[terse smelt]

sharpened the image, need to sharpen more (joke)

[terse smelt]

minor increase in sharpening (lie)

[muted sedge]

My eyes...

[chilly vessel]

stop it before u summon an external lifeform

[terse smelt]

fun fact, if you "remaster" a photo in the built in camera app you can apply the effects unlimited times!!111!!

[dense gorge]

Maybe deconvuliton would be better, then sharpening

lucy Richardson deconvolution

[spring viper]

Jupiter
130PDS
6mm+2x barlow, Redmi note 7

[glass gust]

It needed more sharpening

[frigid dove]

M o r e

[narrow nexus]

More

[smoky scaffold]

you can literally see the sharpening algorithm 😭

[narrow nexus]

𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲

𝗶𝘁 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱𝘀 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴

[frigid dove]

more

now

[terse smelt]

MOREEE

[frigid dove]

I want the moon sharp enough to cut through concrete like butter

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat I think 4 mm is the least you can go on a 650 mm focal length f5 scope like yours and mine. As for wider, looks like 32 mm is included in a kit from amazon. Probably use that to view DSO

[dense gorge]

Moooore😅😅

[glass gust]

Looks fun if you scroll quickly

[spring viper]

Moon mountains
SW130pds, EQ3-2 onstep
Redmi note 7
6mm+2x barlow eyepiece

[elder birch]

You can see the compression artefacts (the squares) courtesy of discord’s attempts to ruin everything we do

[spring viper]

The Motioncam is really very good, I have never received such quality. But it takes up a lot of memory and you need a powerful processor on your computer.

[smoky scaffold]

oh yeah it’s probably that instead

[dense gorge]

Yeah, that's basically raw capturing ... so CPU, memory, GPU everything is under pressure, but quality and result is totally another level

Anyway, feel free to join on MotionCam Discord, experts and beauty results from MotionCamera are appreciated.

We recently created astro channel for people who are crazy with MotionCam + astro 🤓

[frigid dove]

MORE

[chilly vessel]

i've done all I can lol I think we hit the limit

[smoky scaffold]

nah i think we can do more

[chilly vessel]

i spammed that image sharpen 5 times in gimp lol

Better?

[smoky scaffold]

you made it brighter

[chilly vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-shit-stranger-things-gaten-matarazzo-dustin-henderson-no-shit-sherlock-gif-17949381

I tried sharpening and graining

not much difference regardless

[frigid dove]

m o r e

[ebon lion]

Xddd

[ebon lion]

Moon turned into microwave baccground radiation

[chilly vessel]

lol

[dense gorge]

Guys? Do you use usually use drizzle?

[sour turret]

@dense gorge I think i might have flirted with drizzle in Autostakkert but haven't gone back to seeing if it can improve my images.

@spring viper take 5000+ frames of saturn at 4:3 cropped 60% 1600 x 1200 and you'll be amazed by how much better that SNR gets 😌🪐

[spring viper]

Yes, I just have to wait for the next clear weather) That night it was about -8°C and the phone quickly ran out

[dense gorge]

What's about 30 000 and stack best 10%?

[sour turret]

@spring viper that sounds like great atmospheric condition! I dont get so lucky to have no wind and it be that cold in texas. Also while saturn is still in good view. My days of viewing saturn are running out. Days still left viewing jupiter.

[spring viper]

Yeah, seeing was really good, but the telescope took a very long time to cool down

[sour turret]

@dense gorge I dont think have space on my phone for 30000 frames lol. Besides thats like almost 17 minutes worth of video 😂

[dense gorge]

Good point 😄

[sour turret]

@spring viper if I know I have a good cold night coming up, I'll set the scope out in the back patio for a day or two. I also do this to thermal cycle the scope to settle the hardware. Especially after collimation, which I have been reworking lately.

[plush palm]

Andromeda

[floral parcel]

THAT was from an iPhone!?

[plush palm]

Android

[floral parcel]

Wow

What bortle is that?

[plush palm]

4-5 not quite sure

Maybe even 6

[sour turret]

@plush palm Andromedamn

[sour turret]

@spring viper we have almost the same photo. 2 x barlow + 10 mm eyepiece. 130 mm aperture. Raw video footage with Motioncam, 2644 frames

@spring viper will do Jupiter again with 6 mm eyepiece (=3 mm with 2 x barlow) come on detail! Will probably do no more than 3 minutes. No need for winjupos!

[fiery rover]

I would sharpen it a bit more and maybe even saturate the colours a bit more

it looks really good for a picture taken with a phone

and with just a 2x Barlow ?

wow

I have a 2x and a 3x Barlow that I stack to get a 5x Barlow but still I can't get such results well done

I have the Heritage 130p by the way

[spice gale]

You should be careful to not overkill the optical zoom

When you do so, then you can't reach focus

[fiery rover]

i've definitely overkilled the mag but I can't see any quality difference...only brightness difference

[spice gale]

Maybe you need a better eyepiece

Like a quality 6 mm eyepiece and the 3x barlow should be good enough

[dense gorge]

As I see MotionCamera unlocked entirely new level smartphone capturing 😁

[timber nova]

Actully my First Time Doing an Photo of an Deep Space object

[spring viper]

Good job. There are really a lot of details here. I shot my Jupiter through another application because I didn’t have enough memory on my phone

[sour turret]

@spring viper Retrospectively, if I had cropped while recording, it should have only taken up around 18 GB storage. Maybe you have that much?

@fiery rover trust me, I fought with the saturation quite a bit. A problem i ran into with my last run of Jupiter was chromatic aberration. I never had that issue before using DeepSkyCamera Beta, despite being aware that chromatic aberration is and optical phenomenon. I have only had this green problem when using Motioncam. So it made sharpening and saturation difficult as more red appeared where the green was removed. It was my best attempt to neutralize that 🤷‍♂️

[spring viper]

My storage has 64GB, but 61/64 are occupied

[fiery rover]

you got this with the deepskycamera ?

you didn't take a video ??

this is a a stack of photos ?

damn

[dense gorge]

You can use USB-C and fast flash drive storage.

[sour turret]

@fiery rover I did take video with Motioncam. I had previously used DeepSkyCamera Beta. Yes that is a stack of 2644 raw frames. 2 x barlow, 10 mm eyepeice, 130 mm aperture, LG Velvet 5G phone. Trick is to get really well collimated, good alignment to eyepeice from phone and really good focus. The rest is tracking and recording raw video.

[fiery rover]

hmmmm...so post-processing isn't actually that important

interesting

[sour turret]

@fiery rover imo, you should have to do very little in post. Things ive generally had to do in post is a little more sharpening, but that's because i should get better collimation and better focus and keep the object dead center of eye peice as best I can. A little more sharpening in post will always help regardless though. The other thing I generally have to do in post is remove stray light glow around the planets. This is because I need to keep my optics clean and perhaps flock the primary mirror and the inside of the ota.

[fiery rover]

hmmmm...do you have an eq??

[sour turret]

@fiery rover yep

[fiery rover]

I've a dob so I can't track it manually...I have to pause the video and then center the object

what telescope do you have ??

[sour turret]

@fiery rover I used to do that until I leanred how to properly use the EQ. Then I realized that all I really needed was an RA motor and learn to do really good polar alignment.

@fiery rover Astro master 130

[fiery rover]

no way...can the astromaster achieve such a result ?m

the pros in this server told me it's trash and advised me to go for the e
heritage 130p

damn dude

@sour turret that's crazy

damn

[sour turret]

@fiery rover I mean, they arent wrong. Astromaster 130 is a huge PITA and collimating it well is a PITA, but its can perform. I have the images to prove it lol

[fiery rover]

hmmm...so it's just hard to use

[sour turret]

@fiery rover for the longest time I thought it was total trash until I learned that it just needs to be well collimated, which applies to all telescopes anyway. But has some weirdness to it in that i actually have to concentrate more on extra focus collimation instead of intrafocus collimation. In the end, a star test looks good in both. I have spent MANY hours star collimating on polaris.

[fiery rover]

damn

[sour turret]

@fiery rover its not so much hard to use, im mean it isnt luxrious, everything has to he done manually. Even the RA motor drive is variable speed so getting that right takes time.

[fiery rover]

hmmm

have you tried DSO?

does it perform any good

[sour turret]

@fiery rover my avatar image is a 20 second exposure using the same scope with 2 x barlow and 10 mm eyepiece. I should have just imaged with 10 mm eyepiece only. Used DeepSkyCamera Beta. Orion nebula

[fiery rover]

oh wow...what's your bortle??

I guess it's not that high

[sour turret]

@fiery rover I honestly have no idea. I live in north texas and I want to get shots from my back yard so 🤷‍♂️. I deal with whatever light pollution I have.

[fiery rover]

oh nice

[glass gust]

I know this looks terrible but trust me I just took this two day ago with just a phone,no tripod and no real zoom(only digital) photo of venus

[sour turret]

@fiery rover for DSO, we really need to use a camera with a larger aperature, like a DSLR. Its going to be tough to get much outside of orion nebula. Ive gotten M13 before and intend on getting it again with better tracking.

[fiery rover]

🫤🫤🫤🫤

I need to make a custom goto for my heritage

and then buy a proper camera

I'm thinking probably a Neptune 664c

[terse smelt]

prime focus fans in shambles

[indigo shell]

Hello guys I just got a new phone with 50 Mp camera

[woven crown]

Use RAW if possible

[indigo shell]

Hey I just took these photos of moon with my binoculars and my hands

[dense gorge]

Guys? Does anybody have a idea how to improve output of my S23 Ultra 10x lens with 10Mpx - 230mm f4,9?
My first attempt in the past:
I captured 1000 frames and stacked 20% best.

My recent attempt:
I captured 2100 frames and stacked 20% best, but it was just same quality as in the past with 1000 frames.

I want to push the quality much as possible, I already talked with @outer basin, he recommended

• Take a dark frames
• Use fewer amount of frames

I already tried use fewer amount of frames, I have perfectly focused 2100 frames and I stacked only 1%, It was 22 frames and seems to be noisy - I believe that could be fixed by dark frames, but quality seems to be still similar or even just same.

My next idea: is to apply deconvolution to all frames in order to eliminate atmospheric and optical interferences and then registr, stack.

Does anyone have a better idea? I'm sending an example of how my single raw file appears

[outer basin]

Increased a little more, its better now?

[chilly vessel]

oh god

[sour turret]

🦃Happy Thanksgiving yall!!!🦃🗡️🍖🍗🥧🍻🔭🪐✨

[glass gust]

M o r e m e a n s M o r e

[outer basin]

[outer basin]

I think we must stop fellas, this jpg is getting out of control

[plush palm]

It needed a bit more sharpening

[ebon lion]

HOLY FOOKING SHID

[ebon lion]

We are opening the gates of hell right there

But rlly beautyful shapes of watever dis is xd

[outer basin]

If you want to get this evolving, use Registax with linked wavelets and bump up all sliders to 100, save in bmp, open again and redo-it, you can find a lot of patterns by sligthy moving the sliders

[elder birch]

Think the Blue Lake is starting to come out now

Good thinking!

[spring viper]

Quality: 1000 jackals

This photo looks like a million dollar work of art I think

[terse smelt]

increased sharpness and saturation as well

[woven crown]

Bro the image wiggles when you scroll up and down lmaoo

There's like horizontal bars that form

[smoky scaffold]

your phone got a problem then

[simple crow]

quick lil moon I took on my walk

[smoky scaffold]

damn what phone

[simple crow]

S23 fan edition

[chilly vessel]

s23 gang

[terse smelt]

I say this as an s user

(s21)

[chilly vessel]

nah samsung refers to real moon pictures and adds them to the pic
so in a way they are fake but trying to be realistic

[simple crow]

yeee

[chilly vessel]

nah i can't be bothered to talk to calculative people

[simple crow]

better than apples results that looks something like this

minus the good zoom

[chilly vessel]

lol

[simple crow]

yeah

what about it

most phones use digital zoom

my good one is with digital zoom

[simple crow]

this one is an app that trades quality for more zoom

the tradeoff is not a good one

[simple crow]

this is with 3x optical and the rest is digital

the annoying thing is that my phone has crap focusing

like awful

[simple crow]

I could zoom in a chunk more but it just doesn't focus

maybe they'll fix it in an update because this is a newer phone

[fiery rover]

wtf it that😂😂😂

[fiery rover]

my eyes hurt 😭😭😭😭

they are on fire

wtf is going on with y'all's phones 🤣🤣🤣

[fading bobcat]

Hold on, I can sharpen it morw

[narrow nexus]

If you ever heard that it's fake

Probably fske news made up by apple fans cuz they are gealous

[chilly vessel]

Happens a lot

Wait sorry wrong gif

https://tenor.com/view/goober-gif-26076005

ok there we go

[chilly vessel]

[outer basin]

Pretty sharp now

[fading bobcat]

We can do more!

[outer basin]

Max sharpness reached, i will not go further as artifacts may appear

[dense gorge]

Space rick roll, omg 😄

[dense gorge]

Guys? I just created guide and repo about astro on smartphone. I hope you will like that 🙂
https://github.com/SoongVilda/Astrophotography

[fiery rover]

oh I see...😆😆😆

[simple crow]

quick 30 second exposure I took on a walk in the city

you can see andromeda

[terse smelt]

a bit of the milky way too

[simple crow]

bro how I'm in a bortal 9

it wasn't even that late either

I see it but how

[terse smelt]

good transparency i guess

[terse smelt]

processing some old data i have

[indigo shell]

I have pro mode in my phone can I take photos of Milky Way with it?

[terse smelt]

should be able to, what's the max iso and exposure?

[indigo shell]

Iso 6400
And shutter speed 30sec

[fiery rover]

be careful with your ISO...high ISO means more noise...it's better to increase the shutter speed if you have a good tracking system...

as for the Milky way

try to achieve balance between those two

you don't want too high shutter speed... otherwise there will be noticeable star trailing that can be fixed using Photoshop but generally you want to avoid that

as for the ISO...try to go as low as possible, but not too much, otherwise you won't be able to make out a lot of stars

what I do with the ISO is go from the highest value to the lowest, until I found the maximum ISO value that there is no visible background distortion

[ebon lion]

But in comparissons wehre u hab different isos, stretched into the same brightness, u see different amounts of noise

[sour turret]

@wind spoke @ebon lion I think its fair to say that in either case, DSLR or smartphone, lower the ISO the better. And in general, the longer exposure time you have the better. @indigo shell ISO 6400 is overkill on smartphone. I think a good rule here is start with ISO 800 for milky way and other DSO. You have 30 seconds exposure time on your smartphone which is good. Better than mine which only has 20 seconds. See my example of orion nebula at 5 mm focal length (I know the magnification is awfully high here) ISO 800 at 20 seconds exposure time on LG Velvet 5G smartphone. It is safe to say that I could have increased the ISO to 1000 or 1250 with the risk of more noise but perhaps better detail and color/illumination. Your camera sensor may be better at handling higher ISO with less noise, but I'm just sharing "general photography rules" here.

[plush palm]

A little bit more sharpening

Also some deep sky images (ignore the pleades weird spike shapes, I have no idea how and why that happened)

[smoky scaffold]

impressive 👍

[plush palm]

Thanks!

[magic trout]

did you use a tracker for these?

[plush palm]

Yeah, it's a Goto tracking az mount

All of those are single 30 sec exposure, expect the Andromeda, Andromeda is 11x30 seconds exposure

Single 30 sec exposure on Andromeda looks like this:

[smoky scaffold]

looks a lil out of focus

[tulip coyote]

looks to me with the pleades it looks like you got a glare some how, and I will agree that is very odd

[fiery rover]

are you competing who is going to oversharpen his image the most 😂😂😂

[spice gale]

It first started a week ago

[terse smelt]

extra contrast as well as more sharpening, seeing must've been good to see this much detail

[ebon lion]

Wat da faq xddd

[floral parcel]

Full moon from a few nights ago

[dense gorge]

Mooore

[woven crown]

When I scroll on that image, horizontal lines appear 💀💀💀

[smoky scaffold]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020657687291252797/1175939834938921083/IMG_20231118_215259_217.jpg?ex=657648d0&is=6563d3d0&hm=8b7abd79668f1f38745c9b79b2d28ce2e6d602adeae465a5e55e79dbb47781d7&

this is the original

[chilly vessel]

shit really went down hill

[woven crown]

Sharpen it more

[glass gust]

Nah it has become the greatest masterpiece the world has ever seen

[magic trout]

okok wow thx, what phone do you have and did you use the standard cam app?

[plush palm]

I have realme 9, I used normal camera with pro mode, and stacked in deepskystacker on laptop and processed in light room on phone

[stray nova]

My phone pics are kinda rubbish

Took this one pointing at Orion

The sky was pretty clear but it wasn't new moon unfortunately, also some clouds passing by

Redmi note 11

Also this one

[fiery rover]

oh dear 😂😂😂

[dense gorge]

wavelet sharpening is so delicous 😄 😄

[simple crow]

dunno why samsung gives the moon an atmosphere

yes ik "fake detail" but it still looks cool

[terse smelt]

that poor moon image has been passed around 20 times lmao (22 if you count the rickroll)

[simple crow]

still looks cool

[fading bobcat]

A little comparison of the month of November

Same telescope I beleive. just in 2022 I would zoom in horribly and not do stuff right

[stray nova]

do you guys know if this spot is Andromeda? Couldn't detect it on astronomy net , but I think it should be there

Man the compression..

[terse smelt]

i dont think so, i think

[stray nova]

Yeah , the res is very bad , also too much light contamination

I know this is the Andromeda Constellation , you can see Cassiopeia at the right

It should be there , but it may as well be just an artifact

[patent zodiac]

I suppose so, i see casiopeia so i think it is

[versed crow]

I think this is Andromeda

Cuz you can see the fuzzy cloud near the faint dot

[rough chasm]

10,000th message in #1020657687291252797

[tulip coyote]

I can see the dot. I really doubt it is unless you maybe can do more of an exposure. What phone did you use take this?

[potent rampart]

Taken with an iPhone 14, 4 x 30s stacked and processed in PixInsight. There was no tracking so some star trailing. It’s definitely worth taking in a raw format if the phone supports it, especially if you’re going to stack some subs.

[smoky scaffold]

does the ProRaw setting make the pictures raw format

[potent rampart]

Yes I believe so, the file contains the raw image data plus some metadata added by the phone. The raw data is compatible with the DNG file format.

[potent rampart]

Here’s what Apple have to say about it: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211965

[potent rampart]

Definitely produces much better results than HEIF or JPEG

[wise grotto]

Managed to take these with my phone and telescope, not the greatest, as I was just holding the phone against the eyepiece

[smoky scaffold]

pretty cool

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat I like the 2022 to 2023 improvement! Its amazing how far you can come in astrophotography in just one year. Im hoping to get another shot at jupiter before its too late in the year. Ive been doing some much collimation work in hopes to get the best imaging possible out of that Astro master. Im pretty sure I was clipping ever do slightly before. I got a cheshire collimation eyepeice and sight tube combo and although it is "easier" to get the collimation "right" there are other issues to resolve alignment that requires a collimation cap. Im becoming convinced that the tolerance stack up in celestron astromaster scope sucks lol

[stray nova]

Ok , the weather was very good tonight, I think this time I got Andromeda

[fading bobcat]

The astromaster (assuming it's the 130) is never good. I personally used a collimation laser (didn't realize other ways are much easier)

Honestly I love the progress, and wouldn't have done it without you guys that helped me out (yall know who you are). So whenever I post an image here, the credit goes among many people

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat collimation laser is actually the easiest if the secondary is properly placed. So the cheshire is best for that portion. I just use collimation cap for axis alignment. I was expecting that the cheshire sight tube combo would have replaced my collimation cap but no. I cant see the whole of the primary with cheshire eyepeice installed 🙄 My secondary might need slight position adjustment, but I'll see after another star test. If I get one nice round doughnut I'll leave it alone.

[fading bobcat]

Collimation lasers need collimated themselves, which is counter intuitive to their purpose.

[sour turret]

@fading bobcat truth. Which is why getting it pretty close with collimation cap is good enough. Star test to finish the job 😁

[magic trout]

for some reason i get jupiter like this or like that, yall got any tipps? iphone 13pro, 90/900 refraktor

i got nightcap and astroshader

[floral parcel]

Turn down your ISO and exposure time

[fading bobcat]

Seconding what @floral parcel said, I use about 50iso and 1/50th second exposure, record good videos (in .RAW) format and in focus, then put it into processing software, I suggest finding a tutorial on yt.

If you scroll up a bit, you'll see my comparison of me last year to this year, the only difference was I started learning the proper way to shoot planetary images

[smoky scaffold]

yup

[magic trout]

oki thx, do you focus the scope with the phone already on or focus first and then put the phone on the scope?

[ornate void]

my new pics from an phone (i think you can see the orion constellation and the pleaides)

[simple crow]

damn thats compressed

[ornate void]

ig

[smoky scaffold]

extremely

I thought it was discord failing to load it

[fading bobcat]

With the phone on

Otherwise it'll be out of focus when you put your cam up to shoot

[smoky scaffold]

is there any nebulosity (pleiades)

or are those just blue diffraction spikes

[sour turret]

Jupiter x216

and IO decided to join the party

[fading bobcat]

specs?

[potent rampart]

I’ve had those spikes, after wiping the camera lens on my phone with my finger. It does look like there’s some faint nebulosity visible.

[magic abyss]

finally got the mount working proper. this was a test run

17mins worth of 32s subs
10mins of darks
bias (unkown integration, i took them a year ago)
no flats

📱: moto g60
🔭 : heritage 130p
: azgti on alt-az mode

oh wow i hate discord compression

belive me it's less scuffed if you open on browser

[spring viper]

I think it's a bad collimation or bad eyepiece

But nice details on object

[spring viper]

This coma is very noticeable, such coma can only happen if there is a very bad main mirror.

But in general it looks like a trails

[unborn loom]

Might be the eyepiece too

There probably isn't THAT MUCH coma with an eyepiece

So yeah

[sour turret]

thats really awesome

@magic abyss That comment was meant for you. Very very awesome. What FL EP used?

@fading bobcat only thing I changed was to the 6 mm EP. I shot last night too. Will try and get it developed today

@fading bobcat *6 mm EP + 2 x barlow (3 me FL)

[magic abyss]

all three

i need a flattener, the collimation is awful and the eyepiece is the stock that came with the scope

[magic abyss]

here's one sub so you can see how awful collimation is

[magic abyss]

the power of tracking

originally planned on doing so

but i saw carina was above the trees and it's my fav target

i need to fix the collimation tho

yes

i know where it is by sight

inmediatly

[sour turret]

Jupiter and Io

[unborn loom]

[runic socket]

Mother nature being a bit*h again 😒😂

[terse smelt]

you got the disk of io, WITH A PHONE?????

[sour turret]

@terse smelt barely but yes lol

[stray nova]

on the other hand ...my setup...

[woven crown]

Dont fix what already works 🤷‍♂️

[stray nova]

i mean it kinda works... it can pick up andromeda with some light polution and some other big deep space objects...

but adjusting this way is hell

im not poor or something , but i want to get sure i'm made for this

i think i will buy a proper stand this monday i guess

[woven crown]

Very understandable

[magic abyss]

HOW

i'm guessing this is with tracking

[sour turret]

@magic abyss yes, definitely with tracking. And polar alignment.

[glass gust]

Extremely small time lapse test

Also discord compression

[runic socket]

Can barely see it but it's Andromeda Galaxy

Pleiades

Both with my phone through a celestron travel 80 and a 32mm eyepiece

[lunar beacon]

Question. I tested several phones and most of them have max exposure of ~0.1s one had 0.4 but no raw image support.

How do you do these 30s shots?

Or these are reseved for only selected phones?

[terse smelt]

did you shoot in jpeg for all of these

stars dont look right

[wild flame]

could be coma

you'd have that problem with any phone viewing into an eyepiece (example below)

[terse smelt]

no, on the rightmost image the stars have tiny black outlines (image used is own example, effect more prevalent in vanism's image)

vs the raw, which has no such outline

might also be discord compression

[lunar beacon]

Because all jpeg go through processing that include probably some denising and sharpenning. Something you don't have in raw image

I mean all camera image generation

This outline is basic sharpenning artifact

[elder birch]

It depends on the phone a bit as there will be hardware limitations on the max exposure time.
In terms of RAW support most phones allow this but not all with the native camera software. So you may need a third party app to take an image in RAW

[mental saffron]

Hi all. I am 13 years old and i took this image Alpha Persei Cluster. Would like to know any corrections. Thank You.

This is my first Astro-Picture

[final crag]

Google pixel phones have an astrophotography feature where you can shoot up to a minute and 30 second esposures

[final crag]

yeah these are shot with the regular phone camera
cant shoot with anything else

[runic socket]

my samsung s20 has a "night mode" which allows me to record up to 20s exposures - came standard with the camera

[fiery rover]

@lunar beacon yo artyom I have installed your amazing app but for some reason I can't find any deep sky objects 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨...I live in a bortle 9 area but I'm using a light pollution filter

shouldn't I be able to get something with a 2s-3s exposure ?

[lunar beacon]

You can with stacking. You should start stacking. Unfortunatly most cameras I've seen so far don't allow single exposure more than 0.4s.

Make sure you go over the manual and check the android camera specific notes.

[lunar beacon]

I assume you are talking about OpenLiveStacker

[fiery rover]

no I mean the Astro hopper app

but that thing with the camera also helps

but wait

pro shot app auto stacks images...I might try that

[lunar beacon]

Ahhhh.... Good question. What are you trying to capture? What field of view? AstroHopper would get you close to the object but not always bullseye

[fiery rover]

dude I've gone nuts with the telescope...I would search the nearby sky for at least 2 minutes lol

🤣🤣🤣

I tried to convince myself that I've done something wrong

I have bought a velcro to mount my phone on my Heritage 130p

I've always aligned accurately

and when I tried with planets at 26x I could always find the planet in the FOV

which confirms that the app works correctly

I guess it has to be a bortle problem but I genuinely don't know

seeing you writing in the channel gave me the inspiration to contact you

[lunar beacon]

If so camera is problem. What are you trying to capture? Which object? Start from bright open clusters to see if you even can get the signal.

[fiery rover]

I've tried Hercules

and some other clusters

Orion too

and Andromeda

what's going on with Discord ?

[lunar beacon]

Try high contrast open clusters like Pleiades - very easy - you see visually very well as well so you can confirm what you see, capture.

[fiery rover]

hmmmm...I'll try

thx

I will use the pro cam that automatically stacks photos

it has an astrophotography mode

thx man

[unborn loom]

Send something we can see

[smoky scaffold]

just click it

[unborn loom]

No

[mental saffron]

OK Sir

[iron bear]

Orion from last night

📋Exif:
📷 Xiaomi 12 + Motorized eq3 mount
⚙ 70x55s iso 400. 24mm F1.8
📌 Contryside of São Paulo, Brazil. Bortle 3 with high clouds

[mental saffron]

Alpha Persei Cluster
Xiaomi-MIUI 12 Version
iso 2500, 256 images stacked
Bortle 9, India, Chennai

[mental saffron]

I took it through 7x50 Horizon Binoculars

[unborn loom]

Not bad!

[iron bear]

Horsehead with phone + guidescope

I probably won't even finish processing it. I did it just to test before doing it with the telescope.

[iron bear]

setup:

[glass gust]

Orion from the other day

[lunar beacon]

What are each subs exposure?

[iron bear]

55s

arround 100 shots

[sour turret]

astromaster 130 shouldnt be able to get this much detail 😆 Jupiter Europa Io and GRS 12/10/23

[icy perch]

iPhone 15 pro

[unborn loom]

Sheeesh

[terse smelt]

samsung s21 fe

[smoky scaffold]

iphone 15 pro

forgot it was a tif file

i’m pretty sure i captured the spiral arms in m81 if someone can do a quick stretch that would be greatly appreciated

[spring viper]

Reprocess my pleadies

Still a lot of artifacts due to glare and light pollution

[crisp river]

Can any one tell what is that weird ligth in middle of image

[crisp river]

I me more interested in foreground than background what the hell is that spike with blue light

[sour raven]

This is back in May.

B2/B1, 30 Second Single Exposure (With Adjustments) iPhone 13 Pro Max

[fiery rover]

damn why does it look like that ?

was it out of focus ??

[unborn loom]

Iphone makes astro shots oily

[fiery rover]

damn dude that's insane

I'm glad I have android LOL

[smoky scaffold]

looks like a watercolor painting 💀

[fading bobcat]

Can someone explain why dss doesn't stack my images? It's got a low star detection (I beleive I'm trailing at 1.3s)

But regardless it doesn't stack any more than 1 image

Maybe give siril a shot?

Here's a less edited .raw image

[smoky scaffold]

could be because it can’t figure what are stars

[fading bobcat]

I totally get that. Any suggestions?

If it's trialing then I'd bump it down to 1 second. But 1.3 seems usable

I had this issue same time last year and we could never figure it out

[woven crown]

I have the same problem, sometimes it does stack, others nope

[stray nova]

Had to shoot under a lamppost 😭😭😭

[sour raven]

I do not know tho

Ohhhhhhh

Well actually this is the original.

[sour raven]

Before I like doing huge adjustments on the exposure 💀 that’s why it looks different lol

This is another one back in September.

B4, 30 second exposure (No adjustments) iPhone 11 Pro Max.

This time I didn’t adjusted anything, but it’s quite noisy if I zoom in.

[final crag]

Pleiades!

[fiery rover]

bro your pfp is probably the craziest I've ever seen ☠️☠️☠️

discord is insane

[fiery rover]

lol

you are a legend

👍👍👍

[woven crown]

Why is Zelenskyy's face on Jesus' body

[bronze jackal]

I know this is kinda off topic but I got a few random thoughts i wanna share. I have realised i've actually forgotten what Bortle 6 amd above is actually like. I lived in a town until I was 15 but I never really took much notice of the sky until we moved out of town.

My village is still affected by the towns light pollution, right on the transition of Bortle 5/4, but i live on the B5 side. I remember taking my dog for a walk for the first time in the village and going down one of the side streets with no street lighting and seeing stars i'd never seen before for the first time, but now I'm just kinda used to it.

I don't go into town much at night anymore and when i do it's normally just in the car where my view is directly affected by street lamp glare which just totally blacks out the sky regardless of light pollution. So it's been years since i've actually seen any other sky than a 5/high 4. And when i have been elsewhere it's been a full moon so not really and apples to apples comparison.

Anywhere here's a photo with beehive cluster

[smoky yoke]

Braunschweig jaaa

[tacit summit]

M13 cluster

4min not stacked or processed

Pixel 6a

[smoky scaffold]

shoot in raw

[tacit summit]

I cant

I dont know how

@smoky scaffold

[smoky scaffold]

idk how to on a google phone either

but it’ll make your pictures look cleaner

search it up

[tacit summit]

Luckily i have an dslr now

[smoky scaffold]

make sure to shoot in raw with your dslr

[fiery rover]

You know the history behind Braunschweig ?

[smoky yoke]

Not really i just live pretty close to it

[fiery rover]

WHAAAA

amazing

[smoky yoke]

like 20 mins away

[fiery rover]

damn

I want to live in Braunschweig one day...apart from having super rich geschichte it also is an amazing place to live

[smoky yoke]

Yeah its a beautiful city

Atleast the old part

[hollow mural]

Saturn above the moon taken with my phone i think it looks pretty beautiful

[tacit summit]

Ring

Top ledt

Left*

[tacit summit]

Ima retake it i think tonight

[dense gorge]

So... I strike again with my S23 Ultra 10x lens.
1.6s x 1100 frames at ISO 1600
Total integration time 29 minutes.
Bortle 5

[terse smelt]

you got the flame nebula, damn

[tacit summit]

Andromeda 5 min no stacking, pixel 6a

And edited version

[zealous edge]

Not bad

[dense gorge]

S23 Ultra 10x lens.
1.6s x 1100 frames at ISO 1600
Total integration time 29 minutes.
Bortle 5

I added dark frames right now (no flats)

[tacit summit]

@wind spoke you have a pixel 6a?

Or something else

Go to night setting

Set countdown to 10 seconds

And take the picture

Its for 4 minutes byw

Ill take some pictures of getting it later, my stepdad is the one with the pixel and he's at work sooo yeah

[tacit summit]

Ale thats still fine i think

Does it have a night mode?

If so, click the gear and make sure astrophotography mode is not disabled

Then, go back and set the countdown timer for 10 seconds for best results

And it should countdown from 4 minutes while taking the exposure

@wind spoke work?

K

Tag me if it does

[grand vortex]

Got these with my phone

[spice gale]

Gso 2.5x it's nice and affordable

[glass gust]

I think there's a very faint satellite by Cygnus but I'm not to sure.

[bronze jackal]

mooon

S22 ultra 3x Lens
320 ISO
1/250 shutter speed

[grand vortex]

My Orion Nebula taken with a Google Pixel 6a

[smoky scaffold]

are you sure

[grand vortex]

Yes

It's just bad quality

[iron bear]

Blurxterminator's new AI 4 is much better at correcting out-of-focus eyepiece edges. It's a total gamechanger for astrophotography with cellphone

[fiery rover]

bro you are insane 🙌🙌

did you take this with your new setup or with the Toya 114??

[iron bear]

I did it with the 114/900. It's still my current setup... I just made some upgrades to the equatorial mount

[fiery rover]

daaaaamn...you are insane bro🙌🙌🙌

and you captured everything with your phone right ?

a Xiaomi 12 ?

insane

[twin hazel]

What astrophotography app is there for the iphone 13?

is it only nightcap?

[smoky scaffold]

use astroshader

works for any iphone

and it’s free

[twin hazel]

Oh thanks for the recommendation

[iron bear]

it´s just deconvolution

but based on each star

The AI are not inventing data. It's just speeding up something that I could do manually with a simple deconvolution tool. But with AI, it can do each star with a different configuration while with normal deconvolution you apply the same configuration to the entire photo.

[spice gale]

Heck no

[zealous edge]

Got this questionable shot of the Andromeda Galaxy, you can even see little Messier 110. Messier 32 is technically visible, but it only appears as a misshapen star, with no visible glow around it to indicate its elliptical galaxy nature.

Took about 75 exposures, 2 seconds each.

Fixed some star trailing and slight chromatic aberration in post processing, among other things of course.

[chilly vessel]

dude that's amazing

[terse smelt]

the dangers of phone astro (this is the phone)

[grand vortex]

Your phone isn't feeling very good

[terse smelt]

lol, just as you posted that i had deleted all of the raw files, 50gb of dng files (backed up to a 2tb hard drive)

[grand vortex]

Oh, so it's better now.

[terse smelt]

i can finally update the phone

[grand vortex]

I was hoping it would just be like that for all of eternity

[terse smelt]

lol

[spice gale]

https://telescop-expert.ro/barlow-gso-2-5x-31-7mm_103142

There it is the link to the shop where I bought it

[knotty mica]

Jupiter using a 6" dob, and my phone of course.

[spice gale]

The red spot is so cool

[edgy talon]

That need m42 need a priest

How did you clip the core with a phone

[edgy talon]

DBE please

[edgy talon]

Love it

[zealous edge]

DBE?

[edgy talon]

Dynamic background extraction

[zealous edge]

Ah

I don't think I can do that with just a phone

Unless I'm mistaken?

[edgy talon]

Post process in Siril

[zealous edge]

Is Siril available for phones?

[edgy talon]

You need a computer

How did you stack it

[zealous edge]

Ah ok

[zealous edge]

I use an app called Astro Shader to do the stacking for me, since I don't have a computer

[edgy talon]

Please get a computer to use an actual dedicated stacking program

[zealous edge]

Well, maybe someday

[edgy talon]

It will be faster with deepskystacker or siril

[zealous edge]

Astro Shader is working alright for me at the moment

[edgy talon]

Send the tiff

[zealous edge]

That image of Andromeda was like 500 exposures, each exposure was roughly half a second long. I took it using my phone of course, but attached to a hunting monocular, all set up on a very low quality tripod. No star tracking, but Astro Shader recognizes similarities in each exposure and lines them up accordingly while stacking.

[zealous edge]

I'm not sure if I have the TIFF but I can send the original stacked image before I did post processing

I don't think it'll format properly into discord but it's probably fine

I think that's it

This one was 75 two second exposures but it ended up basically the same as the 500x0.5 exposures, oddly enough

I just can't capture much more light using just my little monocular and a phone, probably

[edgy talon]

Okay ill.mess with it

[ember nebula]

single exposure from a few months ago

[knotty mica]

It’s alright do more exposures, and process the image, and it’ll look even better.

[plush palm]

60x 30 seconds
Taken by realme 9

Same, 60x 30 seconds
Made with "startrail" app

[glass gust]

20x50 Binoculars and iPhone SE 2020

[dense holly]

Got some nice views ntgl

[woven crown]

Scope?

[dense holly]

6" gso dobsonian

[wind spoke]

Can anyone send wide space night sky

[edgy talon]

How are you stacking

And how long, your jupiter looks rotation blurred

[edgy talon]

DJE

[tacit summit]

Wut

[edgy talon]

Dynamic background extraction

[tacit summit]

U accidentally tagged me i think

I haven't been on since yesterday

[edgy talon]

Rifle scope?