#Phone Astrophotography

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iron bear
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In the left corner of the video you can see a bunch of geostationary satellites. As I was with sidereal tracking, and geostationary satellites remain fixed in the same location with the rotation of the earth, they end up moving this way.

unborn loom
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Nah

wild flame
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Also not much more data to extract since a 10x telephoto can only do so much

edgy talon
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flats

iron bear
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Carina Nebula reprocessing

  • The mirror was pinched at this time
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    📋Exif:
    🔭 Toya 114/900, eyepiece 20mm 68° svbony. Eq3 with unguided onstep
    📷 Xiaomi Mi9T (IMX 586)
    ⚙ 304x20s ISO 1600
    📌 Contryside of São Paulo. Bortle 3
iron bear
amber dome
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Dayum

potent gorge
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Carina is so sexy

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Especially with a phone

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Keyhole looks pretty good

iron bear
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the hubble version

wind spoke
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w h a t

patent zodiac
iron bear
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The jumps? It´s just dither.

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I just made a timelapse with the frames of a photo... The intention was not to make a timelapse with this data...

unborn loom
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Exactly

lone mica
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New comet pepeHappy

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On a more serious note: I think you should align the phone to the eyepiece more perfectly

wild flame
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ah

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thats the thing

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im not using a telescope 💀

lone mica
wild flame
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phone camera

lone mica
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Hmm

wild flame
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S22 Ultra is quite a nice phone

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especially the 10x telephoto

unborn loom
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Yeah

boreal vessel
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I bought an astrocam but that doesn’t mean I don’t do widefield

iron bear
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The guy doubting my photo because has a spike and I use my cell phone with an eyepiece

fair trellis
iron bear
fair trellis
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Lol

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He never did visual with a newton

lone mica
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I died reading that

spring viper
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Oh no, diffraction spikes through eyepiece Sadge

sick rain
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Reprocess

surreal jasper
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Ringnebula on a iphone 11 through a 200mm newtonian

amber dome
fiery rover
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But then I figured out

crude ravine
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there. fixed it (mostly).

fiery rover
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Master @iron bear, my phone has a Samsung HM2 sensor...is it any good for Astrophotography???

smoky scaffold
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rip

cobalt brook
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Should I be videoing to get better photos then?

fiery rover
cobalt brook
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Yeah I don't have a tracking mount so....

edgy talon
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Fireworks galaxy through binoculars

smoky scaffold
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are you sure

chilly vessel
fiery rover
fiery rover
wind spoke
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My best widefield so far

unborn loom
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Longer exposure time is always better

fiery rover
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I didn't know that

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So there's no problem recording at 4K 30fps???

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But doesn't higher FPS mean more frames thus more detail in postprocessing

cobalt brook
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In pro video should I turn on tracking autofocus ?

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Also in pro video I cannot record raw, that ok?

chilly vessel
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wouldn't work as well for deep space objects tho

cobalt brook
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Stars or planets ?

chilly vessel
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For planets it is btr

cobalt brook
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Thnx

chilly vessel
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stars, unless the star is fairly bright, try not to

cobalt brook
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Ok so should I just keep if off?

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I guess I was thinking of using it for planets tho not stars

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Still need to figure out why my star photos turn out the way they do

chilly vessel
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hm

cobalt brook
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Are you able to view that photo ?

chilly vessel
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Might want to do an online file type transfer

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Dng to png

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Don't do jpeg

cobalt brook
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Here's my photo setting it took it in as well

cobalt brook
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Lost all of its quality 😦

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Why does the iso go to 400? And I can't change that either btw (at least using expert raw mode on astrophotography mode I can't)

chilly vessel
cobalt brook
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Ok so it should be good shooting in 400?

chilly vessel
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Looks good regardless

unborn loom
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Are you talking about deepsky?

fiery rover
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No

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I'm talking about pro shot

unborn loom
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Whatt

fiery rover
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Lucas Goncalves uses pro shot

unborn loom
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Deepsky?

fiery rover
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My master

fiery rover
boreal vessel
smoky scaffold
iron bear
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The iPhone's Noise Reduction AI is very bad; Leaves the photo full of artifacts and without details

iron bear
edgy talon
iron bear
# cobalt brook Should I be videoing to get better photos then?

Infrared sensor in the cell phone camera is more of a hindrance than a help. The deepskycamera developer had to cover his cell phone's sensor with tape because it was generating reflections in the eyepiece. Basically it is useless in astrophotography.

cobalt brook
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@iron bear not sure I understand that tbh?

iron bear
cobalt brook
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No just what you mean by that ?

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Do you know why my photos are always so bright ?

iron bear
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kekw , I had seen that the autofocus IR sensor was highlighted. I thought there was a doubt about this

cobalt brook
iron bear
# cobalt brook No just star photos

Stars are also considered Dso. Is it getting bright because of light pollution? Depending, if the photo is in raw, there is no file exposure compensation to reduce the effect.

cobalt brook
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Dng file cuz of the mobile phone version of raw but yeah

iron bear
cobalt brook
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Deepskycamera confused me

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Confuses*

iron bear
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At first it seems more complex, but you will have to learn kekw . Not so difficult

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That raw you envied is compressed and Pixinsight can't even read it. It's probably a processed raw (Just like iPhone raw) It's not real raw

cobalt brook
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It's a raw photo taken from expert raw on android

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Samsung*

iron bear
fiery rover
iron bear
cobalt brook
iron bear
cobalt brook
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Damn, I really enjoy it because it does long shots composed of a bunch of smaller shots.... also it has the stars built into it 😔

ember nebula
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I noticed that too, I took a picture of the floor and there were stars

smoky scaffold
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💀

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fake stars is new

iron bear
cobalt brook
fiery rover
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I'm buying a Samsung 20s ultra

cobalt brook
fiery rover
neat flame
fiery rover
# cobalt brook

If you can find a way to mount it on the telescope pointing at the direction of where the telescope is pointing you could even use it as a tracking device

cobalt brook
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@iron bear check photo I sent

cobalt brook
fiery rover
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The feature

cobalt brook
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I could probably even take it to a super dark spot and use the phone to take photos through the telescope with that mode

iron bear
# cobalt brook

This is just a locator to let you know where the stars are

cobalt brook
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The only problem is that in expert raw, once you hit the camera button you can't see a live feed anymore

rough chasm
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hello

cobalt brook
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So I wouldn't be able to track, say for example, Andromeda Galaxy.....

fiery rover
fiery rover
cobalt brook
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Would things like Andromeda Galaxy move fast enough to have to adjust it every 4 minutes ?

cobalt brook
fiery rover
# cobalt brook Too much $

It's 45 euros ...so around 65-70 CAD...but also it's not worth it because I just checked you have an alt-az mount

fiery rover
cobalt brook
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R u certain? I had heard before that you can go up to about 6 minutes with no star trailing ?

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Or maybe I'm wrong

unborn loom
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whats ur question

fiery rover
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Because of that feature...I was just joking 😂😂

cobalt brook
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@fiery rover don't joke, Samsung's are amazing

fiery rover
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But the amazing ones are a bit expensive for my standards

unborn loom
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The feature is not worth it..

dark ridge
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Guys.

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According to good to stargaze

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I am at bortle 10

boreal vessel
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It’s day

dark ridge
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Lmao yeah

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But the sky is blue

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Its atleast beautiful

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Here its white grey yellow brown

iron bear
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Here it marks as bortle 9.5

boreal vessel
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Tbh some dude will feel mean and make narrowband street lamps :)

iron bear
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My city from ISS. There is no real bortle scale greater than 9. But if there is, I'm sure it would be more than 9 here kekw 💀

ember nebula
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And you still get those great images

boreal vessel
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He moves to b4 sometimes lol

cobalt brook
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Anyone have any solution to opening dng files in siril?

boreal vessel
cobalt brook
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@iron bear btw deepskycamera also saves as dng not raw

cobalt brook
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So.... why is it that "shot in raw" is always suggested yet when you "shot in raw" it saves it as dng and that is no good? I'm really confused

boreal vessel
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I’m pretty sure a .tiff is more raw than that lol

cobalt brook
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IDK?

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Dng is just what my phone saves as and it seems like it's not good but that's what every phone uses

cobalt brook
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Gimp, siril, apparently pixinsight

boreal vessel
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Yeah uhh I’d say just use PIPP and pray to god

tulip coyote
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So I have a IPhone 14 plus and I am having a hard time getting a decent shot of Jupiter and I keep getting a bit of glare which I am wondering if that is from humidity fogging up the lense on my telescope but this is the best I could really get

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Now the problem I also think could be is that it was not taken with a Barlow lens and used pure iPhone zoom

boreal vessel
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It’s not that

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Your using an iPhone

tulip coyote
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Fair enough

boreal vessel
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I used to be the king of iPhone planets because of this ISS shot

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This is my newest shot using a budget planetary camera

iron bear
cobalt brook
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@iron bear ok I'll try it again someday then

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@iron bear did you see my dm?

chilly vessel
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A single ping will suffice
Impatience will not

cobalt brook
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I didn't mean to ping twice tbh

smoky scaffold
boreal vessel
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2x Barlow

spring viper
edgy talon
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you can shoot at .5 seconds max...

cobalt brook
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@edgy talon oh ok, thank you!

edgy talon
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yeah welcome to untracked

cobalt brook
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So for deepskycamera

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Anyone know setting to use ?

unborn loom
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Dng is raw

spring viper
chilly vessel
spring viper
spring viper
cobalt brook
boreal vessel
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I shall image that now too

boreal vessel
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Also I still do occasionally use my phone for AP no worries

fair trellis
boreal vessel
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I may have detected some nebula FINALLY

spring viper
fiery rover
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Taken with Google camera app

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Skywatcher Heritage 130p

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Redmi Note 10 Pro

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It's not stacked btw

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It's a single image

rocky delta
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DANNNNGGGGGG

terse smelt
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wait then why is the edge green

kindred zephyr
fiery rover
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I processed the picture on my phone

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So it's not top notch quality

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Today I tried minimising the effect

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I think that if I actually processed the image on Astrosurface it would come it even better

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But it's good for now

fiery rover
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Apparently you have to be very careful when using the vignette

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It can ruin your image

boreal vessel
unborn loom
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Flame?

boreal vessel
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And a teeny tiny bit of horsehead

amber dome
red fulcrum
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mon👍

wind spoke
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single sub of Omega neb

edgy talon
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just something abt it

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how is one part of the moon in focus and the rest is out of focus?

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looks oversharpened too

smoky scaffold
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yeah it looks like too much contrast or black point

fiery rover
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Yeah I think I overdid it a bit with the black point 😅😅😅

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The second version is better though

fiery rover
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I will download Snapseed to see what I can do better

spring viper
# spring viper M33

M33
Redmi note 7
SW eq3-2 with terrans OnStep
Defective 23mm eyepiece
Powerseeker 114/900
Reprocess

spring viper
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There is not enough exposure for this subject and it is worth working with the background later. My bortle is 8

unborn loom
patent zodiac
boreal vessel
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I gotta shoot more data lol

edgy talon
boreal vessel
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That’s what I’m saying

formal notch
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your stars are terrible

spring viper
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Today I'll process this photo

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42min in bortle 8

spring viper
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Shooting in jpeg is a bad idea

edgy talon
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Used too

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Look at the stars

unborn loom
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Seems iphoney yeH

unborn loom
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Unlucky

elder birch
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Main thing is if you’re happy with the images.

One thing to consider with jpeg (or any compressed format) is that it reduces the ability to edit. Stretching the image might result in colour banding or clipped shadows/highlights

unborn loom
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Jpeg doesnt really have noise

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Or at all

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Raw has color noise

smoky scaffold
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imma shoot in jpeg from now on

unborn loom
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Have funkekw

spring viper
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Beautiful nebula

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Horrible data

wind spoke
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Auroras from last nightpepeLove

edgy talon
unborn loom
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Intresting

elder birch
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Depends on the app and how it’s processed

magic trout
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what would get better results with an iphone 13 pro: stacking raw pictures of the moon or recording 4k60fps and stacking?

smoky scaffold
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its much faster too

magic trout
smoky scaffold
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a couple artifacts idk how to get rid of

fair trellis
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Probably collimation

terse smelt
patent zodiac
boreal vessel
cobalt brook
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I wish I could get that

patent zodiac
cobalt brook
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No, I'm saving for a seestar s50

patent zodiac
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This is what i got with my asi224mc

cobalt brook
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That's awesome!

patent zodiac
cobalt brook
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Equip in bio

patent zodiac
cobalt brook
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Sorry I hate having to type it out kekw

patent zodiac
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You could get a better mount and an asi224mc, i think that you can get the skywatcher az gti motorised mount and the asi225mc will be good

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Thx

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ASI224MC

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Where did you get the 225? It says 224

cobalt brook
terse smelt
fair trellis
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Because both are amazing little scopes

edgy talon
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a seestar is the lazy way in astrophotography

gilded relic
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Guys what ISO shall I use when photographing the Orion nebula

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It's a S 20fe

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While using 30 sec as exposure time

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With a relatively well tracked mount

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And how many pictures will I need to get the most details on the nebula

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Will I need to also use dark , flat and bias pictures too?

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Please answer it all in one text

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It's a 114mm Newtonian Reflector

sick rain
cobalt brook
cobalt brook
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Again, that goes down the path of, ok now I need a tracking mount and guess what now my telescope isn't powerful enough to produce decent photos so gotta buy a new scope ....

gilded relic
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Like 800 or 1800

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Is there a big difference between them cause I need to get the most details on Orion nebula

smoky scaffold
sick rain
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To get a good Orion Nebula image where the core is not completely white, you need an HDR composition. There are many tutorials on that. High ISO makes your image brighter.

amber dome
terse smelt
smoky scaffold
edgy talon
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that zwo robot thing, whatever its called

edgy talon
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do 30's, get a decent image, send stacked tiff

cobalt brook
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And I understand your point, but I don't have the budget to buy into Astrophotography and do it proper

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  • what the seestar produces pleases me enough
fiery rover
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Just snapseed

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No stacking...nothing

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Much better than my last one

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This one is a bit more natural looking

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Idk which one is better

magic abyss
edgy talon
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Get a used 8" dob and a uranus-c and your good to go

unborn loom
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not for deepsky

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i actually dont know how good it would be for deepsky but doesnt sound good

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correct me

edgy talon
unborn loom
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Still

edgy talon
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bro hush

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but yeah the uranus-c is capable for DSOS, the weakest link with a dob and uranus, is being untracked and more narrow

cobalt brook
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Still, the seestar s50 is a better fit for me, so yeah

smoky scaffold
cobalt brook
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Yeah, but also for a amateur stargazer like me.... it gives me photos that I'm happy with and that's what matters so...

cobalt brook
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How do I download astrohopper on my other phone?

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It's not on playstore ?

potent gorge
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Huh

terse smelt
edgy talon
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stretch

smoky scaffold
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whys it look like clay

unborn loom
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Haha

unborn loom
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A bit too much blur reduction

amber dome
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Shoot in raw 😭 (if you don't)

fiery rover
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My very first stacked image of the moon

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Redmi Note 10 Pro

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Skywatcher Heritage 130p

boreal vessel
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That moment when you get 2 minutes of signal

chilly vessel
boreal vessel
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Wait wrong channel lol

terse smelt
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you can't do deep sky to save your life dear god

smoky scaffold
terse smelt
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prolly bad processing

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wait nvm he can do deep sky to save his life

smoky scaffold
terse smelt
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can, posted some good images that I haven't seen

smoky scaffold
edgy talon
edgy talon
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#1157435680939593828 message

smoky scaffold
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dude took it personally

boreal vessel
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It was 2 minutes of data lol

boreal vessel
edgy talon
boreal vessel
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And plus I have things to fall back on if DSO fails

terse smelt
frigid dove
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Single shot of the moon five days ago

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My university lets me use the scopes whenever so I get access to a 14" SCT whenever I please AwkwardSmile

unborn loom
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DAMNN

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Dream

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My school does have a telescope, but as far as i know it's a 5" or a 6" eq3, so nothing impressive

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I haven't seen it yet, but god i hope it's not a powerseeker or something like that

edgy talon
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i got the best scope in my school, when october 14 comes around im gonna live stream the eclipse

patent zodiac
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My middle school bought a telescope, it was a celestron 130 astromaster😂

potent gorge
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bro one of my teachers in my schools whos got a phd has an 8" dob at school

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hes got some solar telescopes as well

boreal vessel
potent gorge
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i dont recall them being by lunt or soemthign else

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but he had an eqm-35?? or a heq5

boreal vessel
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He’s probably in this server, lurking…

fair trellis
patent zodiac
weak lintel
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S23U aurora on Sept 25 over germany

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To bad the raw broke so I just have a bad version as a jpg left:(

ornate void
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The moon

ember nebula
visual burrow
ornate void
ember nebula
terse smelt
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Hercules cluster

edgy talon
patent zodiac
# edgy talon More data

Ey bro can you help me with stacking my orion data? I cant send you them rn but i can send it when im back from school

patent zodiac
edgy talon
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Damn

queen zealot
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Might have more luck. Phones can do wide field stars but for planets I wouldn’t bother

iron bear
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My last one with a phone. 6mm eyepiece + 2x barlow with 114mm telescope.

smoky scaffold
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ps1 version of yours

iron bear
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Use any professional video recorder. Filmic pro type. You can disable video noise reduction

smoky scaffold
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ill check out filmic pro later tonight

floral barn
iron bear
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I use this on my current cell phone.

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It´s the ProShot.

floral barn
iron bear
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Leave NoiseReduction at OFF.

queen zealot
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Noise reduction is bad if it’s done on camera

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You want to apply it in post after processing, having a pixelated mess and working from that data won’t produce good results

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Like $10 if you get a second hand webcam

tulip coyote
# queen zealot Have you considered using a webcam instead of a phone

I have seen some web cams do a pretty good job. I dod have a telescope camera, SV205, not the best one there is but I just need a better telescope, and why I say that is my focal length is to short to the point its a bit blurry with cameras. I am getting a new telescope in the mail soon so I am hoping that might help out

unborn loom
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Whats ur question

cobalt brook
floral barn
cobalt brook
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@floral barn does it capture in real raw ? My phone captures raw but saves as dng which according to a lot of people actually isn't real raw?

floral barn
unborn loom
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Different account

floral barn
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I'm on my cell phone. I leave the other account only on the computer 😅

cobalt brook
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@floral barn can't decide if it's worth using, my phone already has expert raw mode

iron bear
chilly vessel
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i couldn't realistically go past this
this is with 12.5mm ep (25+2x barlow)

terse smelt
chilly vessel
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alr

terse smelt
fiery rover
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5x barlow with a 10mm eyepiece means 325x magnification

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And I could possibly push it to 395x

wind spoke
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Hey

fiery rover
valid sandal
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hello, so i am trying to remove the vignetting i get in my pictures. i'm trying to take some flats. i am not happy with the result. first picture is without flats and second is with flats. what do you think is happening?

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i'm using sequator to process

unborn loom
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Second is better

iron bear
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35s iso 100 shots. Xiaomi 12 + eq3

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Contryside of São Paulo, Brazil. Bortle 3 with full moon

floral barn
rough chasm
fiery rover
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🤣🤣🤣🤣

boreal vessel
iron bear
solar sapphire
ember nebula
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30s sub, bortle 1-2

smoky scaffold
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anyone wanna try and edit this? it’s andromeda galaxy

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yes i know it’s hella trailed

patent zodiac
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Boy u even gote some dust lanes

patent zodiac
smoky scaffold
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yes i’m very proud

elder birch
smoky scaffold
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i tried my best to get the satellites and dust lanes

elder birch
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From the background it looks like your phone might not have been perfectly lined up (orthogonal) to the eyepiece.

I found 2 things helped this; a sturdy adapter (or tightening the screws on your current one), and checking the alignment inside against a pure white area of wall, e.g. if you see dark rings try changing alignment or distance from the eyepiece

fiery rover
smoky scaffold
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i do check the alignment facing something bright but when i screw on the eyepiece it probably messes it up a little

edgy talon
edgy talon
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Star look like comet

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Not pinpoint

terse smelt
patent zodiac
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1

fair trellis
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two

unborn loom
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3

patent zodiac
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4

potent gorge
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69

fiery rover
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first

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the Carina nebula

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then

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this

bronze jackal
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Mysterious curved artifact photobombs my image

bronze jackal
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Hello winter sky, been a while

atomic rampart
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Stacked 110×20s

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Vs not stacked 20s

torn arch
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finally got out to a bortle 3-4 from my bortle 7

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specs:
Samsung S22 Ultra (wide, 10min and 7min exposure times respectively)

Some Cheap 5$ Chinese Phone Tripod

Adobe Lightroom (just for on the go)

runic kelp
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My solar filter arrived yesterday and i got some crummy pictures of the sun with my iphone 7 + powerseeker 70az

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Wish i could capture what my eyes see 😢

sick rain
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Don't say I should dither because I can't do it now

edgy talon
edgy talon
atomic rampart
edgy talon
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@atomic rampart @simple crow are my boys I fw them 24/7

simple crow
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onb

bronze jackal
fiery rover
patent zodiac
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What does dithering do?

patent zodiac
bronze jackal
fiery rover
bronze jackal
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Yeah it definitely is, its just way brighter than all the stars so it's way over exposed and the shape is just because phone camera probably

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Orion is in this one though

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In the bottom right

sick rain
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Orion constellation from Bortle 5

fiery rover
sick rain
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And widefield

edgy talon
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Bernard's loop is crazy tho

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And rossete

solar sapphire
smoky scaffold
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ring nebula

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i can’t do anything about the donut shape

cobalt brook
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How?!?

patent zodiac
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What about my ring

smoky scaffold
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the phone was iphone 11 pro

smoky scaffold
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is this tracked

patent zodiac
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Yeah

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I need to work on my noise

terse smelt
smoky scaffold
terse smelt
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lol

smoky scaffold
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don’t laugh 😭

terse smelt
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i mean mine doesnt either i just tilt the phone up while it is inside the adapter

fiery rover
terse smelt
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i say this as a phone user

fiery rover
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😆😆😆

smoky scaffold
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it just happens to be the only camera i have on me

fiery rover
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if anyone did

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he would be crazy

fiery rover
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but just saying

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iPhones suck

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👍

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generally

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you are some type of cult

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that do dark magic

smoky scaffold
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😭

smoky scaffold
fiery rover
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it's like cutting through butter with a knife

smoky scaffold
fiery rover
smoky scaffold
visual burrow
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This is the jupiter im able to see

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Any way to actually see detail?

elder birch
visual burrow
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Ohk

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What soft should i use

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I got 20 gbs free space in ssd

smoky scaffold
visual burrow
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Ok

smoky scaffold
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yeah astrosurface is pretty reliable since you can do the stack and processing in the same program

elder birch
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😂 🤦‍♂️ Apologies just saw that - have a bad connection and a sometimes messages don’t load

cobalt brook
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Any help ?

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I have a 1 minute video that I am trying to use pipp to change to avi but it keeps failing

cobalt brook
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Any help plz?

smoky scaffold
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if it’s still not working then you probably don’t have enough space

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i had the same issue and it was i was out of space

cobalt brook
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I don't believe I'm out of space ....

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Either way, I'll try to store it on my hard drive

smoky scaffold
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what file type is the video

cobalt brook
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It worked on hard drive

vale wren
cobalt brook
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@vale wren I don't have a very good telescope tbh, and the photo I sent just now is my 1 min stacked photo

cobalt brook
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It isn't great is it 🤣

vale wren
# cobalt brook It isn't great is it 🤣

don't be discouraged, almost everyone's first pictures looked like this or worse. When I tried to take a picture of Jupiter with my 60mm powerseeker and smartphone, it was much worse than yours

smoky scaffold
vale wren
fiery rover
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sv205??

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it looks really really good for a 100 dollar camera

muted sedge
smoky scaffold
vale wren
vale wren
runic socket
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both on a skymax 127 mak with a 10mm eyepiece and a s20 phone

fiery rover
# vale wren My gear is in my bio

damn...I have a cat too that every time he wants to achieve something or get something from me he goes into the telescope box and he scratches it...cats are genius

fiery rover
fiery rover
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where did you buy the ZWO camera

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??

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I can't find it on the original website

vale wren
fiery rover
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🫤🫤

vale wren
fiery rover
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yeah I'll see...unless it's in China or EU eBay isn't really a thing for me...because otherwise I have to pay some 24% of the product's price

vale wren
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oh

fiery rover
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naaaah

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on eBay

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it costs 224 from Austria

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that's not it

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😂😂😂

fiery rover
# vale wren oh

I'm thinking about saving up for the brand new model asi678mc

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it has 4k at 47 FPS ☠️☠️☠️

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low read noise

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low temperatures

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starvis 2

vale wren
vale wren
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its a hexagon lol

fiery rover
vale wren
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💀 💀 💀

fiery rover
vale wren
fiery rover
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I wish I could have your camera

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you see

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I don't want to spend too much money

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you are super lucky

vale wren
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I am saving up for a DSO rig rn

fiery rover
fiery rover
vale wren
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smartphones are lowkey kinda garbo

vale wren
fiery rover
fiery rover
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wait right here

fiery rover
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it's crazy

vale wren
# fiery rover with his smartphone??

also the Stellina robot scope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znAhp0Upanw

Astrobiscuit takes on Stellina the robot in a Deep Space astrophotography shoot out.

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fiery rover
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it's super expensive

vale wren
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yeah

fiery rover
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the seestar costs 500

vale wren
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a robot is cool and all but there's nothing like doing it yourself 👍

fiery rover
fair trellis
fiery rover
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the seestar is only available for preorder

fair trellis
fiery rover
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that means that there is still some work left

fiery rover
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I get it

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but you didn't state your argument

fair trellis
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Both scopes are amazing justright

cobalt brook
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I'm going to be going for a seestar because it works perfectly for my lifestyle, just gotta convince the wife to let me keep my order once they tell me it's in stock kekw

cobalt brook
iron bear
edgy talon
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Just get a real telescope and not let a robot do all the work, where's the fun in that?

cobalt brook
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@iron bear @edgy talon sorry but, if a little robot telescope can give me this while I use my own telescope to view the planets and show others Jupiter's moons etc, I am extremely happy! I don't need to spend thousands of dollars on expensive equipment this way

edgy talon
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Dude if they're gonna make you pay for their robo-scope they could of atleast denoised it

fiery rover
edgy talon
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Moving noise???

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It can't even dither???

fiery rover
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I have no idea

edgy talon
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Dude if it can't even dither don't get it

fiery rover
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Yeah there are some complaints right now in ZWO's main forum

edgy talon
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You shouldn't be complaining about walking noise with a fully automated scope

fiery rover
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the only MAJOR problem is that thing in the corners, which unfortunately can't be fixed unless they change the mount

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it's because it's an ALT-AZ and not an eq

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but I get it...an eq would be pricier

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I remembered

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it's called field rotation

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and because all ALT-AZ mounts can't track objects with amazing accuracy, this is what we get 🫤🫤🫤

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this is the only real edge that the dwarf 2 has over the seestar

edgy talon
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Get a real scope with more aperture and get details

fiery rover
edgy talon
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Onstepped cg-4

fiery rover
edgy talon
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No

edgy talon
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Not so sure when it comes to onstep

fiery rover
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🫤🫤🫤

fair trellis
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They are fixing the noise issue

fiery rover
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how much time is this??

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I guess it's less than an hour

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that could be why it has so much noise

fair trellis
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The new software makes it soo much better

fiery rover
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it looks pretty decent

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low noise

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but I can't really see much detail on the nebula...but that's because of the small aperture

fair trellis
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Yeah

edgy talon
edgy talon
vale wren
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My first shot of the Orion nebula! Smartphone on 8" dob single 2 second sub 3200 ISO. Also the moon through same scope with phone

fair trellis
fair trellis
edgy talon
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Does it track in alt az?

fair trellis
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Yes but you can incline and it becomes eq

spring viper
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Honestly, it's a useless thing. It is cheaper to buy a camera with a lens and a cheap tracker.

plush palm
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how did u get 55s in single image?

muted sedge
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My first go at the Ring Nebula
8" Dob, mobile phone!

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I also got my best Orion nebula shots

plush palm
unborn loom
plush palm
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DAMN bro it's amazing

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What phone you have?

sick rain
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From public binoculars

runic kelp
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So little so silly

plush palm
bronze jackal
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Hyades cluster

iron bear
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There is no signal in the photo. It's just artificially masked

smoky scaffold
potent gorge
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theres no data

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its artifically made an area to make it seem theres data

smoky scaffold
iron bear
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Discord does not convert file format

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wait

smoky scaffold
iron bear
smoky scaffold
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i see

terse smelt
sick rain
edgy talon
edgy talon
iron bear
edgy talon
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L for him

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Get more exposure tine

amber dome
wind spoke
wind spoke
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that is good

sick rain
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@iron bear @potent gorge @edgy talon @smoky scaffold @terse smelt @plush palm

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this is the "artificial masking"

sick rain
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Also the stars here are poorly processed

smoky scaffold
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💀

edgy talon
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Its just a good phone pic

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If it's faked then sucks to suck then

smoky scaffold
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video is still processing

sick rain
smoky scaffold
sick rain
smoky scaffold
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nvm

sick rain
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i will try to post it here

sick rain
edgy talon
sick rain
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I have done way better with this phone

edgy talon
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You should be able to get the loop with enough int time, well done especially with broadband

sick rain
edgy talon
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Yeah man go for it

edgy talon
smoky scaffold
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@sick rain damn thats pretty impressive

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i see how you got the loop

ebon lion
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Some old pics I took with my phone and a 8" dob 3 yearsa ago:DD

spice gale
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With my 6" flextube dob and my phone

muted sedge
muted sedge
wind spoke
wind spoke
runic socket
iron bear
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Probably yes. Uses the same sensor as my old mi9T

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I was doing some experiments with data from a friend in order to compare the noise of a modern cell phone vs DSLR.
Firt pic: Xiaomi 12, 60s iso 400 + 120mm guide scope F4
2: Qhy 294mc at ambient temperature. 180s gain 100 + 50mm lens f4
3: Canon 60d, 180s iso 800 + 50mm f4 lens

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He ended up not taking a photo with the 294 refrigerated, but probably refrigerated it will be much better than the cell phone since the noise from the 294 at -10 reduces a lot

fiery rover
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I remember you use the Toya 114/900 telescope, your phone and an on step goto system

iron bear
fiery rover
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it looks so good

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I can't understand

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you are magician

iron bear
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Not in raw...

fiery rover
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that's why it's so bad

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the noise

terse smelt
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yeah but its close enough to raw

fiery rover
terse smelt
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first result

iron bear
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Dng is just the raw format. Each type of camera has its own. Canon is Cr2, dedicated uses Fits, Fujifilm uses RAF. In the end it's all the same

fiery rover
terse smelt
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maybe it holds extra imformation aside from the image??

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i dunno

fiery rover
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probably

iron bear
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Color depth and dynamic range.

terse smelt
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ah that makes sense

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more numbers to more picture

iron bear
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The noise appears with raw... It disappears with jpeg.

terse smelt
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yeah the s23 may have denoise in raw

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s21 doesnt*

iron bear
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Samsung can't use it as a parameter. Reduces noise even from their raw kekw 💀

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If you use deepskycamera it does not reduce the noise. However, when using the deepskycamera, the Samsung sensors make a lot of noise. Samsung sensors are not efficient for astrophotography in general

terse smelt
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but you can use them

iron bear
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The best cell phones for astrophotography that Samsung has, coincidentally (or not) use Sony sensors.

terse smelt
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lol

terse smelt
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wonder if its possible to get disks of the gallelien moons with a phone

fiery rover
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they also discontinued the A7 series

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😞😞😞

terse smelt
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completely pointless, but would be funny

fiery rover
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I have the redmi note 10 pro, using an HM2 sensor

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is it gonna be that bad??

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it has pretty low noise

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the planetary and lunar photos and videos look pretty good

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idk for DSO though

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I haven't really tried since I live in a freaking 9 Bortle city

terse smelt
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i dunno just see if its terrible

elder birch
# iron bear I was doing some experiments with data from a friend in order to compare the noi...

Interesting and impressive.

Does your Xaomi have a binned sensor? Imagine that really helps noise reduction.

I wonder what the impact of the RAW converter is too. I know for iOS devices that as well as the standard noise-related DNG tags (NoiseProfile, BaselineNoise, etc) they have public and secret image metadata tags with noise reduction methods modelled per image. These only work if using an Apple implemented RAW converter.
I don’t have any experience with Android but suspect some of the OEMs might have some magic denoise tools that are device specific.

iron bear
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Similar to Bin 2 of the asi294mm.

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I don't think it has noise reduction. It would be easily noticeable in the stacking... I calibrate the dark frames with cosmetic correction and the noise corresponds perfectly... If there was noise reduction, I believe it would be more intense in the dark. Therefore, it would not work perfectly with pixinsight's cosmetic correction.

elder birch
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Wow nice!
Yes I doubt Xaoimi do anything to the raw data itself. And if you are using pixinsight for raw conversion it won’t have access to the custom devise processing.
Sounds like it’s just a solid camera 👏

iron bear
elder birch
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Yes, that is a major limitation of afocal. Not sure I’ve ever heard any good approaches to this, except night-vision but that seems a bit different.

plush palm
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Yall, my friend have an iPhone and he needs an astronomy camera app, is there any good recommendations?

spring viper
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Astrophotography on a smartphone is good until you open it on a computer with a good monitor

iron bear
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Currently there are several cameras with sensors the same size as cell phone sensors. The 585 and 533 for example...

spring viper
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No matter what sensor the smartphone has, it will still be outperformed by the old Canon 550d for $60

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There will be a lot of detail on objects, but there will not be good resolution

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You lose image quality due to the additional number of lenses

spring viper
iron bear
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A cheap DSLR has more noise than signal.

spring viper
iron bear
spring viper
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Canon 1000da

spring viper
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On a smartphone there is indeed less noise and it is possible to get a lot of detail with a short shutter speed, but this has so many other disadvantages.

iron bear
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Phone + eyepiece astroThumbsUp

empty cove
spring viper
# iron bear The only disadvantage is having to use eyepieces.

Really? Processing photos from an eyepiece is a very complex process that requires extensive experience and knowledge of the processing program. Crooked background, stretched stars, vignetting - this is about the eyepieces. But there is such a layer of people in society, their name is masochists.

iron bear
spring viper
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This is my photo of the nebula through the eyepiece

iron bear
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You just need to know how to process it. I process images from asi 294, 2600 etc for a long time with friends. I only apply what I know to my photos with my cell phone.

iron bear
spring viper
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For the cost of an expensive eyepiece and phone, I’d rather buy a DSLR)

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There will still be money left over for a coma corrector)

iron bear
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Yes, I can. But why would I buy a DSLR instead of a dedicated camera when the cell phone will already have satisfactory performance? It's worth waiting a little longer and buying a dedicated one straight away.

iron bear
spring viper
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To fix image problems you need to use expensive software

iron bear
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Exactly... And you're going to spend 500 dollars on a camera instead of continuing to take photos with your cell phone and saving up until you buy a dedicated one.

iron bear
spring viper
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I have not seen a pirated version of Pixinsight, only if the versions are very old.

iron bear
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This is where many get frustrated... They think that with a DSLR they will get much better quality and in the end they end up not being able to do so due to other limitations. Anyway, (I) prefer not to spend that money on a DSLR if my cell phone is used for astrophotography and save it until I buy a dedicated camera. And that's what I'm doing. I know it's difficult, I'm young too. If it were easy, I would have gotten a dedicated one a long time ago.

spring viper
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I’m interested in your level of photo processing with good software

iron bear
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But then the context is different... It's not the same thing as someone who has been doing astrophotography for a long time with a cell phone. In this case, it might be worth going for a DSLR before getting a dedicated one. I'm talking about those who already have more experience in the hobby and who use their cell phones.

elder birch
bronze jackal
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Finally get to see the moon for the first time in a while and thick fog says hello

bronze jackal
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noisy single shot of jupiter handheld up to the eyepiece

edgy talon
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Tracked?

runic socket
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I have no idea how to use pipp, AS!3 or photoshop but I'm damm happy with that

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Took about 3hrs to convert on pipp and to stack on AS!3 (it weren't even 5min of recording but nearly 20k frames apparently lol) but I'm damm impressed

dense gorge
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Device? And how many frames?

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Wow, jt's really good! I tried 1300 frames with S23 Ultra at 10x build in camera

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Yes, sadly 10x camera have only 10Mpx. I captured 1300 raw frames and stacked by Siril and also cropped by Siril.

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I didn't use

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Bcs it's native on Linux 😅

runic socket
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Ahh the Linux limits lol

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I would suggest maybe finding a cheap Windows desktop pc (mine cost £50)

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It got me this with a s20 phone

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Yeah I was messing around in Ps, trying to teach myself haha

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Working 😡

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I work nights

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Yep

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And the annoying thing.... my new astro camera turned up today lol

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Mars C-ii

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I got a laptop to use it with so trying to download nina and that

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Yeah all I need now is a better telescope lol

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It should be good for planetary of course but I want the dso's lol

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Eventually I'll probably get a decent telescope but not this side of Xmas lol

ebon lion
smoky scaffold
fiery rover
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if you want to sharpen your image better use Astrosurface

runic socket
runic socket
ebon lion
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:D

runic socket
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Hopefully my new astro camera I got today will make it better

ebon lion
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Shesh

runic socket
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Thats orion, definitely needs improvement haha

smoky scaffold
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if any of you guys use an iphone i highly suggest using astroshader

edgy talon
runic socket
edgy talon
knotty mica
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Jupiter, I took it with a 6" dobsonian and my phone

spice gale
knotty mica
knotty mica
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Next time I’ll probably try it with a 6mm eyepiece

spice gale
spring viper
fading bobcat
fading bobcat
fading bobcat
# fading bobcat

10mm lens on a poor quality (replacing soon) phone adapter. Also planning to get a usable barlow.

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The only time I've ever been able to see the bands visually.

knotty mica
fading bobcat
fading bobcat
# spring viper

Really cool. Since this is the a phone channel, may I ask what camera settings you had used?

knotty mica
spring viper
spring viper
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My july data

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Power

spring viper
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The quality of detail in Jupiter's atmosphere will be amazing. With my 130pds i can clearly see some details in the atmosphere, and with 400mm there will be an excellent view in general

tacit summit
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Milky way, 10 min exposure, used google snapseed, pixel 6a, second one is my andromeda galaxy with same phone

smoky scaffold
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is that the milky way going across this line or just weird noise

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orange star in the center is betelgeuse

north spindle
tacit summit
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@edgy talon how do i take those with a phone?

edgy talon
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Use same iso

floral parcel
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My first photos of the sun with my iPhone 13 and Celestron 50mm travel scope +solar filter

smoky scaffold
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no filter?

smoky scaffold
ornate void
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it looks like no filter for me

vale wren
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RIP phone camera

ornate void
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🫡

vale wren
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hopefully he didn't look through the scope or finderscope 💀

ornate void
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hopefully.

floral parcel
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I used a filter

vale wren
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it did NOT look like it lol

floral parcel
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That would not have gone well 😅

spring viper
ebon lion
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Thats nice:D

spring viper
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With foggy mirrors)

runic socket
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Best I could get for tonight

chilly vessel