Planetary Imaging

[ancient kelp]

Oh is it the powerseeker

[rain mauve]

It has very large amount of CA

And 80mm maybe isn't suitable for doing planetary

But it has like 900mm focal length, so idk, maybe I can make a use for it?

[rain mauve]

Yeahhhh true

[ancient kelp]

😅

[ancient kelp]

They’re

Let’s just say

There’s an emoji dedicated to them hahaha

[rain mauve]

Lmaooo

But I'm planning to do like DIY 114mm with 900mm telescope

[ancient kelp]

Ohh

[rain mauve]

3d printed and dobsonian Newtonian mirror

But I haven't in the budget yet

[ancient kelp]

Yeah totally go for it

[rain mauve]

Idk man, idk what to choose, cam first or telescope first?

[ancient kelp]

Otherwise id recommend getting a dob

[ancient kelp]

Hmm

What’s ur budget?

[rain mauve]

300 dollar max I can spend on

My current value of the money isn't that great... Everything is expensive in my country

[ancient kelp]

Oof

Well

If you wanna practice using the softwares

You can get the cam first

But just don’t expect the best results

[rain mauve]

Umm which series of the planetary cam?

[ancient kelp]

Otherwise id save for a 6” dob maybe

[rain mauve]

My country doesn't sell that thing : (

[ancient kelp]

I got the mars c II but you can get the cheaper one if that’s comfortable with u

[ancient kelp]

Oh

[rain mauve]

How's the result? Is it great?

[rain mauve]

Umm...

[ancient kelp]

Yeah it’s really good for its price

[rain mauve]

Yeah I don't mind with that, as long I can practice with new setup and upgrading my skill and knowledge

[ancient kelp]

Probably one of the best beginner astrocams out there

[rain mauve]

It's fine actually

[ancient kelp]

Yup

Skywatcher doesn’t ship to india?

[rain mauve]

I'm currently live in Indonesia

[ancient kelp]

Ohhh

[rain mauve]

Indonesia most people are very seldom for doing astrophotography/planetary, that's why, they don't sell like in official

[ancient kelp]

Ohh i see

[rain mauve]

They need to import the telescope, and... That's expensive

[ancient kelp]

Yeah

Oof

Hmm

You could get a tabletop dob if an actual dob is too expensive for you

[rain mauve]

Hmm idk, still way too expensive because of the shipping

[ancient kelp]

Ohh dam

[ancient kelp]

Try to look through the fb marketplace then

For used ones

[rain mauve]

I'll try I'll try

[ancient kelp]

Bur

Yeah

[rain mauve]

Fb sell a lot of things

[ancient kelp]

I’m guessing there’s not gonna be much results tho

Yup

[rain mauve]

Yep yep agree

Thanks anyway for the time

Appreciate it

[ancient kelp]

No worries

[rain mauve]

Is it legit?

[ancient kelp]

Not sure, you should ask one of the pulsar guys for help

[rain mauve]

Pulsar?

[ancient kelp]

Sorry haha, they’re the DIY people

They have yellow name tags

#🔨-do-it-yourself

[rain mauve]

Umm I don't have access

[ancient kelp]

Select the channels & roles bar on the top of the server

And then select the DIY role

[rain mauve]

Thank youuu

I can join right now

[ancient kelp]

No worries😊

[low oar]

That’s the one I have, it comes with a cord that connects it to the camera and a usb port

I’ve heard the Uranus c is better

Idk though up to you

I feel I’ve done quite well with it

[olive saddle]

To be fair, the powerseeker refractors aren't actually terrible. They're not good per se, but they aren't god awful like the pseudo bird-jones reflectors in the same lineup are.

The mounts on the low end Celestron refractors are bad, but the optical quality is usable. Not good, but usable.

just gotta find something better to mount the optical tube on. The mount they come with is bad enough that with enough finagling quite literally anything could be better lmao

[elder venture]

Powerseekers are just big monoculars, what’s bad is their mount, sucky usage of money and advertisement

[olive saddle]

It's a shame honestly. Celestron is a flagship company for some of the best telescopes out there, especially their SCT's. With such great products you'd expect them to have better quality control in their other stock.

If you didn't know about their flagship SCT lineup, and had only heard of their terrible pseudo bird-jones and less than optimal refractors, you'd think they were some low quality off-brand joke.

[digital steppe]

and mirrors

[dark cargo]

The 114/900 mirror is very nice price to performance. Not sure what that currency is, but I bought a similar one for around $20 USD.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002593170862.html

It cheap since it's a spherical mirror, but it's got a high focal ratio so the spherical aberration is very small if noticeable at all.
I don't have any images with it since I used it mostly for visual.
Have a look at this if you want to DIY a telescope with it: https://www.printables.com/model/224383-astronomical-telescope-hadley-an-easy-assembly-hig

[rain mauve]

Sadly aliexpress doesn't ship into my country

Alibaba does

I've got the mirror like around 25 USD dollar

[rain mauve]

This one is very cheap

[dark cargo]

If you are in India tejraj does sell a kit with the mirror, mirrorholders and focuser etc: https://www.tejraj.com/product/45-newtonian-telescope-making-optical-kit

[rain mauve]

Sadly I'm not at India haha

Extra challenge for build this Hadley DIY telescope

But thanks for the information

Appriciste it

[shell epoch]

Before you put everything together, you should get the primary mirror center spotted

It'll make collimating easier

[rain mauve]

I see

I have zero experience of operating reflector telescope

Is it easy to do it?

[shell epoch]

For visual yes, for planetary imaging, less so

But you get the hang of it

[rain mauve]

Sooo the higher I'm using the eyepiece, the precision of colimation is strict?

[shell epoch]

Hmm

Unless it's really off, you won't notice for visual

Generally

[rain mauve]

I see...

I'll try use it

And try learn it

Time by time

Thanks anyway

[shell epoch]

Np

[shell epoch]

Jupiter and Io about an hour ago

[rain mauve]

I did some research right now, parabolic mirror doesn't have like chromatic abertion
But if I use with my current set up like 900mm spehrical mirror and paired with 25mm, does it make my planetary image looks like a lot of bunch chromatic abertion?

Curious, I'm just asking

[shell epoch]

You won't have to worry about it with planetary imaging, since there is software to align the rgb colors. Same can be said for reg astrophotography, but I think it's probably harder and less effective

Also, you won't notice it visually

[rain mauve]

aaahhhhhhh

okay okayy lets gooo

im afraid that the CA will disturb my images

[shell epoch]

Also, 25mm at 900 focal length isn't enough to do planetary. You'll want a barlow lens for that, and probably a dslr or webcam

[rain mauve]

cuz my telescope like 80mm it has like alottt of CA

[rain mauve]

yesss yess, i already had it

but its quite cheap barlow lens

but ill invest it later

[shell epoch]

Won't matter too much, I started with a $20 one, and it didn't lower the quality of my planetary images

[rain mauve]

okayyy

ill need planetary cam for the next year

ill save the budget first

[shell epoch]

Yea. And since you're doing diy, you can buy your eyepieces meticulously

[rain mauve]

so the eyepiece wont fit or? what is it?

[shell epoch]

Any 1.25" eyepiece will fit with any 1.25" holder

It's the standard rn. Though 2" is growing more popular

I just mean you can get the right eyepieces you need, instead or getting kinda random ones

[rain mauve]

ohhhh i seee

i thought any eyepiece would not fit into my telescope

my bad my bad

[rain mauve]

ill stay with 1.25

[ruby compass]

@somber stratus can i have your best jupiter data with moon transit?

to proces

[low oar]

Invest in a wide telescope first

Then camera

In my opinion

[loud ledge]

Hello

Any experts here on planetary imaging?

[elder heath]

No

[loud ledge]

🥲

[low oar]

I mean not nasa but what do you need help with

[loud ledge]

Mainly scope or mount, i want to potentially upgrade them

[low oar]

What do you have now

[loud ledge]

Eq5 and 130pds

[low oar]

What’s the diameter

Idk what that is

[loud ledge]

130mm i think?

[low oar]

Ahh

[loud ledge]

5.1 inchs

[low oar]

And your budget?

You can do some good stuff with 5 and 6 inches

[loud ledge]

Hmm well based on what im selling rn, i could achieve a budget of 1k to 1.5k

Potentially more depends on situation

[low oar]

I would wait for a good deal on a nice sct or a dob over 12 inches or over

[loud ledge]

In planetary imaging

[low oar]

Yea

[loud ledge]

Can dobs track objects?

[low oar]

You would need to get a mount for one or get one that does track

That’s why I have a sct

[loud ledge]

Do you have any good recommendations that can allow this?

[low oar]

C9.25 or C11 are the common and less expensive ones compared to the C14

I have the C11

You would need a heafty mount for it as they are heavy

[loud ledge]

Also is the uranus m good?

I know you need a filter wheel and all

But im probably getting a camera for christmas

[low oar]

Yea you would need to shoot with filters

I have the Uranus C

And I like it

[loud ledge]

Yeah thats the colour one i heard its very good too

[low oar]

Yea

[loud ledge]

Although is the uranus m good for resolution?

[low oar]

That’s what I use though

I think mono is better because you get more detail

Might want to fact check that though

[loud ledge]

Alright, well

Thanks for the advice i appreciate that

Cya

[low oar]

Yea

Deff

This is my planetary setup

It’s about the size of me

[loud ledge]

Geez lol

[low oar]

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[elder venture]

Used 16'' Dobsonian + EQ Platform, or if possible, mod it to goto

or even a 12''

theyre easier to goto

and are more often found used at that pricerange with a pre-done goto setup

[loud ledge]

Alright thanks aswell!

[loud ledge]

Currently this is the best ive got of uranus

Although it is with a phone camera

[loud ledge]

Is the 200pds good?

[elder venture]

Yeah, its a pretty good scope, but the EQ5 will struggle with it

[candid flare]

@lean island has this scope

[loud ledge]

Yeah so i might have to change the stand to fit the weight capacity

Oo

Also what stand would go with the 200pds?

Eq6 r pro?

Or is there any better options?

[elder venture]

HEQ5 is bare minimum (even then its too complicated for some people)

[elder venture]

Would rather go with a harmonic at that price

or a used NEQ6

[loud ledge]

One of these?

[lean island]

Heq5 works fine but is on the upper limit of what it can handle

[white prawn]

@loud ledge as an owner of an EQ5 clone, that came with my 200mm F5 OTA, I would sooner recommend the EQR-6 Pro

[candid flare]

Wow the scope is heavy. 8.8kg

The 8" f4 carbon fibre is 5.84

[rain mauve]

Okayyy

[elder venture]

EQ5 Clone is not the same as a HEQ5

[elder venture]

Yeah.

They often get sold for dirt cheap used

[white prawn]

That’s fair. I know that the HEQ5 has more capacity than the standard EQ5. And I won’t argue that the HEQ5 would be sufficient. I personally would feel better with the EQR6.

That’s just me. 🙂

[elder venture]

The EQ6r is overkill

mainly because of its price

[white prawn]

I’ve been told that the HEQ5 is sufficient, but the EQ6R is better overall.

[elder venture]

Yes, of course its better but that doesnt change the fact that its overpriced and that a harmonic would do better for cheaper.
also, an HEQ5 is MORE than enough for planetary

DSO imaging is the main issue

[dark cargo]

I did use my 200 F5 tube for planetary even with just an onstepped eq5. Definetly get something bigger if you plan on doing DSO as well. You can do planetary without tracking to save money, tracking just makes it really easy.

[white prawn]

OK. That’s fair.

I guess I will adjust what I’m looking for. For my planetary purposes, I was looking for something that was a bit more future proof, which is why I was focusing on the EQ 6R. However, realistically, if I get what I want, it’s going to be a Dobson and beyond the capabilities of the EQ6R anyway.

[loud ledge]

So is the 200pds scope and the NEQ6 a good combination?

[elder venture]

VERY good.

[ruby compass]

🙁

[low oar]

October 13th Lunar Images

[loud ledge]

Pretty cool

[low oar]

thanks

[woven kite]

platos has to be my favorite crater

[ruby compass]

This is really awsome

@low oar please image patavious when itd at its best

Its my gav creator

Crater_

😔

[low oar]

True that one is good

I prob have a pic of it somewhere just not a good one

Yea not good but it’s there lol

[keen hornet]

Jupiter through my Telescope

[olive saddle]

nice, what telescope?

[loud ledge]

And what camera lol

[keen hornet]

Celestron Powerseeker 114EQ

[olive saddle]

Oh wow, quality is pretty decent for a Not Great™️ optical tube

[keen hornet]

Poco X3 Pro

[loud ledge]

Dang

[native plume]

thats pretty good for a powerseeker and phone

[elder venture]

Powersucker and a phone? damn, well done

[loud ledge]

Fr

[rain mauve]

That's the most detail jup with phone I've ever see

What eyepiece do you use?

[white prawn]

I don't believe that.

[white prawn]

Probably a BS 9000 25mm

[keen hornet]

4mm Eyepiece

[low oar]

Dang

[rain mauve]

Which type aspheric? Plossl?

Wow that's amazing haha

[keen hornet]

Kellner Eyepiece

[rain mauve]

nice info

thanks

[silent mesa]

What settings should I have for my images in planetary ap? I use sharp cap

[woven kite]

i think i did something thats frowned upon

i took a second exposure to get the moons visible then brightened/removed areas that the moons are supposed to be in

second exposure in question:

separate exposure i meant

[loud ledge]

As in did you keep saturn normal but use the frames with the moons?

Because ngl thats understandable

[woven kite]

well two of the moons had to be duplicated to their relative locations. i exposed them but they werent detailed

let me just draw it real quick cause idk how to explain it

[low oar]

That’s not rly fround upon

Frowned

[sand umbra]

Most of them do really suck, had the 114 but it was really good, had to hide the fact that it was a powersucker cause no one would believe my planetary images were from a powersucker

[livid sierra]

As long as you are transparent about it it’s kinda okay. And you should realise that obviously your telescope did not actually detect the other two moons.

[ancient kelp]

we all start somewhere😄

[sand umbra]

Might get my 10” goto up n running again

Should I strap my DSLR on my 10” while it’s tracking and track the comet for a better result

It may be stupid but I need to get a better result lol

[ancient kelp]

yea go for it

[low oar]

Comet Lemmon

[loud ledge]

Hello

Last night i viewed all four gas giants but im trying to see how this (overexposed) uranus aligns with stellarium

Two different versions of stellarium dont align either

[sand umbra]

@low oar what r u using to strap your camera to your scope

Gonna do the same but for my goto dob

Ima be fr should’ve gone for the Schmidt instead of the dob lol

[low oar]

Just a little mount on a rail

Screws into the bottom of the camera

[sand umbra]

Should probably figure something out for that

[sand umbra]

How big is your Schmidt?

[loud ledge]

Okay guys heres the solar system in my telescope so far

Jupiters moons are arranged in size order from left to right

[low oar]

C11

[olive saddle]

That tripod is incredible

[low oar]

The one for my scope?

[olive saddle]

The one the C11 is on

[low oar]

Yea

Thank you

losmandy G11

[olive saddle]

Ah, G11 for the C11

it's perfect

[low oar]

I bought it with the c11

Yesir

I got it all from a guy in North Carolina

$1500 😮‍💨

[olive saddle]

honestly that's a really good deal for the whole thing

[low oar]

Definitely

[sand umbra]

Got the mount now just need to put it on the tube rings

Now time for rollout ramp and platform

[loud ledge]

Guys

Does the EQ6-R Pro work with the 250pds?

[elder venture]

Work? Yeah. Give you nightmares and crippling depression? Yes.

You have to understand that the 250 is a BIG fricken sail

[loud ledge]

What kind of nightmares lol

Like between the eq6i pro, the Neq6 and the eq6 r pro, which one works best with the 250pds

[elder venture]

Nightmares of constant shaking, horrible guiding graphs and partial impossibility to image

[elder venture]

Technically the EQ6r

For planetary and visual it’s fine

But DSO imaging it becomes.. frustrating

If you can put up windshields there isn’t much issue but I’d advise against it

The mount could definitely hold up to a 300pds but you will need something to break wind like a dome or something

[loud ledge]

I just wanna do planetary

[elder venture]

Then it should work but heavy winds will still be a huge pain

[loud ledge]

Yeah, some nights here it can be windy in ireland

[loud ledge]

Hello

Can someone explain how to remove these weird artifacts

My ap grid was 104s

Should i increase the ap grid size into one single box???

[livid sierra]

Yeah try that and see if it looks normal afterwards. It kinda looks like you were imaging with variable transparency.

[loud ledge]

I fixed the issue, it was ap boxes

[sand umbra]

@low oar yo alright so what would you recommend for sub length, I kept it for 10” yesterday I could go longer

[low oar]

For Lemmon?

[sand umbra]

Yeah

[woven kite]

has anyone done a peekaboo shot like this

so cold outside got a few minutes of jupiter

[shell epoch]

Nice

Seriously can't wait until it starts coming up at a more reasonable time lol

Send it once you're done processing :)

[woven kite]

pipps doing its thing rn

[woven kite]

exposures a little clipped but im pretty happy woth it

[low oar]

I don’t have field rotation so I was doing 15 and 20 second subs

[somber stratus]

Have this one, using Lyaphine's 20".

[olive saddle]

holy wow

[native plume]

i have never realized how weird jupiter looks without it streched at the equator

[sand umbra]

No field rotation with an equatorial? Weird, I’ll probably test it out

[low oar]

What?

You don’t get field rotation with both dec and ra tracking

[sand umbra]

Shoot

Well still digging the info out of brain after a year and a half

[low oar]

You only get field rotation tracking one direction of the sky

[somber stratus]

I assume you mean the opposite. You don't get field rotation if you track in one axis, i.e RA.

[woven kite]

wooo!!

[elder venture]

thats how EQ mounts work

[tiny topaz]

What’s a good exposure + gain to use with a 8” dob, ASI 585mc, 3x Barlow and on firecapture for both Jupiter and Saturn. I swear I capture them either too faint or too bright

[livid sierra]

10ms and set gain so histogram is around 70-80%.

[olive saddle]

Yep, it's kinda funny how we kinda tune out Jupiter's oblate shape (atleast I do) and it becomes something you don't really notice, until you see a depiction of Jupiter on a perfectly round sphere, and suddenly it looks so weird and unnatural.

[cloud copper]

a quick plato image

[teal sandal]

jupiter looks funky inverted

blueberry

[shell epoch]

Fr

[cloud copper]

looks ok but something is off

[flint siren]

Sharpness

[olive saddle]

evil Jupiter (inverted Hubble image)

[teal sandal]

Halloween Jupiter

[woven kite]

copernicus

i know what caused those lines but im not going back to fix them

https://tenor.com/view/bird-vs-pigeon-nest-bird-building-gif-11989087864633967529

[sand umbra]

10 min collimation that’s my record

Getting good at this

[woven kite]

so colorful

[somber isle]

Nice details

[sand umbra]

Bless me with good seeing please

[ancient kelp]

Sick

U should try to image the moon and Saturn conjunction coming up

[sleek shore]

Is this a realistic result with a 10 inch scope
250p quattro uranus-c with 400x400 crop
And cropped more
3x barlow stacked with 2x
20 minutes of data
With ir 685
I did this simulation of a image
With good seeing

can I expect something like this?

Or 2-3 times blurrier

[loud ledge]

Btw quick question, how does the 250p quattro differ from the normal 250p??

[sleek shore]

250p quattro
Optimized for Astrophotography.
1000mm f4.

250p a dob.
1200mm (f4.7) its f5
PURELY FOR VISUAL

250PDS a newtonian.
Visual/astro ish newt.
1200mm f5.

[keen hornet]

Moon through my Telescope

[loud ledge]

K thanks!

[woven kite]

theyre pretty far i just checked

[sleek shore]

Btw should i get a ADC
I wanna get good results with planetary
10 inch newt f4 with barlows
Looking forward shooting neptune

I am looking at the StellaLyra 1.25" ADC
Very attractive price….
The zwo is wayy more expensive

I need help

[ancient kelp]

Yeah it’s near the end of November

[rain mauve]

Hey, I'm building my new hadley diy telescope right now

It's about 40 percent done

I can't wait to get the result

[white prawn]

I think the people here who get best results from planetary use an ADC, and would recommend its use to others. I've taken a single image with my own ADC. It's actually the best image of Saturn that I have from my 8".

So yes, ADC is recommended. I personally have a ZWO and the price at the time a couple of yrs ago was about $125 so I get what you're saying about cost. Others can speak about the StellaLyra brand better than I can.

[sleek shore]

Thank you man!
Do you think its a must with a IR filter 685nm?

[elder venture]

"250p" isnt just a dob lol

just like how there is a 200p which is fitted with a dovetail, there is a 250p

[sleek shore]

It is tho

[elder venture]

its no longer sold as widely as it used to but its a thing

oh my lord

[sleek shore]

?

[elder venture]

theres also a 200p dob

and a 200p OTA

and theres a 250p dob
and a 250p OTA

[sleek shore]

Yeah but he asked 250P

I search for a ota
From what i know i couldnt find it

[elder venture]

the 250p OTA is sold here regularly on used markets since it got replaced by the 250pds

iirc its still sold in other continents

[sleek shore]

250p is usually a quattro when u google search
I think u meant the 250pds same as the dob just a better focuser etc

[loud ledge]

Is the 250pds better than the quattro for planetary imaging?

[elder venture]

my

guy

the 250p is a scope seperate from the 250pds which was sold at some point but now youll mostly find it on used markets in the blue style.

[sleek shore]

Well then idk

[keen hornet]

Hi guys. Can anyone stack this video?

[white prawn]

No. The ADC is a set of prisms that, when set, align the different wavelengths of light so that the image itself isn't color-shifted. The IR pass filter blocks wavelengths other than IR. It would be better used with UV/IR cut filter.

[elder venture]

Id definitely recommend getting an ADC

looked at saturn the day before yesterday

INSANEEELLLLY good seeing but Atmospheric Dispersion really kicked in hard

[white prawn]

I imaged Saturn on a day when seeing was REALLY less than ideal. Went to stack it and there was a blue shadow. Would have been okay if I had used even UVIR cut.

[livid sierra]

ADC still has a beneficial effect when imaging in IR…

You understand that IR is not one single wavelength of light right…

[somber stratus]

Yup. ADC effectiveness is a function of bandpass width more than anything. That includes longpass IR filters as well as UV/IR cuts used during colour imaging. It's recommended in any case other than narrowband imaging such as CH4.

I literally tested this and made a comparison with IR filters a few months ago.

With/without ADC

[ruby compass]

No cuz its not raw

[ruby compass]

What is an ADC? Is it Atmospheric Distortion Corrector?

Ah

What does it do?

Or well how does it work

[somber stratus]

https://skyinspector.co.uk/atm-dispersion-corrector-adc/

[ruby compass]

Ah. Thanks:)

@somber stratus do you have any good exampels of what a differnace it makes?

Besides the saturn one

[somber stratus]

There are loads of examples on Google, and that site I linked

I don't have any more personally.

[ruby compass]

Ah okay

[thick heron]

I consider it a necessity for OSC given the significant channel bleed.

[somber stratus]

yup, though this idea that its not beneficial outside of OSC is ill founded.

[ruby compass]

is the differnace bigger the bigger the scones or no?

Cuz I feel like it should be

[somber stratus]

With respect to losses in potential resolution, yes.

Dispersion is independent of aperture, but losing say 1 arcsec of resolution due to dispersion is much more damaging to a larger scope that can (nominally) resolve sub-arcsecond features for instance.

[thick heron]

All my pre mono+ADC shots had a slight directional blur, especially in blue, that went away after inserting it.

[ruby compass]

Yeah thats what I figured.

Ive got a question Tom.

How good of a seeing would i need to possibly get a a spec of surface detail on ganemede?

With a 8" btw

[livid sierra]

Good enough seeing to get surface details on Ganymede.

[ruby compass]

Ye ofc but what would that be in arc/s?

If we say that jupiter is like 45° above horizon

[white prawn]

In the respect of "I know that there's more than 685nm IR", yes. In the respect of "the spectrum of IR is allowed to pass" I would have thought that ADC is designed to align RGB wavelengths and IR narrows it down to one in particular so I wasn't aware that there may be a benefit.

Okay now seeing @somber stratus's comparison, wasn't aware that there is a benefit.

@livid sierra so I'll just acknowledge there's a lot about imaging and wavelength/spectrum that I really just do not understand and that's where my answer was from.

[flint siren]

Altitude doesn't change the seeing scale you need to get ganymede details.

But like with average-ish seeing, you can get glimpses of the details.

[ruby compass]

u sure?

[livid sierra]

He’s sure yes.

[ruby compass]

I mean about the fact that u can get ganymeade details with average seeing

[thick heron]

You can with enough aperture in poor seeing.

[cloud copper]

what adc do you guys recomand?

[elder venture]

hate to say it but ZWO's is pretty good

[cloud copper]

What about omegon, it’s longer so I’d have better sampling, but I don’t know anything about its optics, do you?

[elder venture]

omegon rebrands some ZWO items so i doubt its any different here

[cloud copper]

The Adc looks way different, it has a different construction

[elder venture]

havent heard much mentioned it in particular, but what i did hear was only good

[thick heron]

New ZWO ADCs seem to have random prism orientation these days.

[ruby compass]

Huh thats weird. I have images that sharp that doesnt have detail om ganemeade.

Also im using an 8" sp seeing needs to be optimal

[white prawn]

Beyond the "left-handed vs right-handed" issue that's known?

[thick heron]

Yes. That was only in very early units from 2016. Mine was a left-handed unit until i reversed it a few months ago.

Someone I know with one needs to point their knobs down with an SCT.

I've heard about others that are whacky.

[elder venture]

Every glimmer of hope of ZWO making a product worth its price gets diminished to shreds moments later

[sand umbra]

Seeing the stars twinkle as a child
Seeing the stars twinkle as a planetary imager

Getting impatient atp just give me good seeing 😭

[teal sandal]

bagged some lunar surface while it was still clear

[ruby compass]

gonna do lunar now 😄

idk how the seeing is tho

wish me luck

[elder venture]

yk whats worse

having a really small aperture but tom-level seeing

i already know once i get a big dob ill get horrible seeing

[teal sandal]

Good luck🙏🏻🙏🏻

[summer pebble]

the moon just a little less than a week ago

[woven kite]

my videos for processing are 4k mp4s cause canon locked the ability to shoot raw video even if the camera is capable (90d)

[sand umbra]

@somber stratus how many times have you gotten APOD?

[woven kite]

pythagoras crater

seeing was not the best/mount wobble

[woven kite]

is there a way to stack a number of frames in a video of your choosing? like say theres 3000 frames and i only want to stack between 500 and 2000

[woven kite]

this was trimmed down with avidemux but theres little parts that are blurry probably from some sort of compression

[thin aspen]

You can use Autostakkert to do this in the limit section. Also PIPP does it nicely.

[low oar]

Autostakkert 4

[silent mesa]

Can someone help me understand why I can’t send pictures in this forum

[white prawn]

Protostars can't because someone was an AH with sharing stuff

[silent mesa]

Ok

[ruby compass]

me vs Hubble bubble

plato

Bay of rainbows

[flint siren]

Compressed Hubble

[ruby compass]

On my screen its not compressed

[flint siren]

Look closer then.

[ruby compass]

Well thats how the original image was

[flint siren]

That's the original, you can look it up on Wikimedia Commons.

[ruby compass]

Looks as sharp

[sand umbra]

AH?

[zenith nimbus]

YOO I HAVE 90D TOO

[woven kite]

so its this thing the whole time that i ignored xd @thin aspen @low oar

0 0 500 2000

[zenith nimbus]

Twins

[white prawn]

AH = A$$h0le

[somber stratus]

really wouldn't be surprised if it's raw too

the planetary images that are used as publication fall very short of what the data is capable of

the "professionals" make no attempt at sharpening or teasing more detail out of the image

Raw vs w/ subtle sharpening. Quite the difference and much closer to what you'd expect from a 2.4m space-based scope.

[somber stratus]

I'm downloading the raw data for this now.

[somber stratus]

actual hubble

[ruby compass]

Ehh

Yeah

[somber stratus]

rest of the image looks just as nutty

[elder venture]

please dont use that for assh-le

[white prawn]

👍

[elder venture]

use any other short way of saying but not that, people literally use it in reference of the mustache man

[white prawn]

I’ll try to remember that in the future. Frankly, for my own reasons, I try to avoid the use of term entirely.

[ruby compass]

Well Hubbles slewing speed isnt fast anough for the moon making the moon an unideal target for Hubble.

[low oar]

Yea

[woven kite]

single frame with 150-600mm

tried to do a wide shot composite with a 50mm but didnt come out as i wanted to

[rugged knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode-gif-21281004

[woven kite]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/695299763553173656/1025862062720684092/caption.gif

[woven kite]

this isnt good

[white prawn]

Right up there with using an air compressor or canned air.

[sand umbra]

What is up with the northern belt of Jupiter, keeps expanding then it shrinks bro I just want think bands 😭😭

[sand umbra]

Well kind of sucks now I switched accounts and back to protostar if you remember me

Few things are different since I was last year

Doesn’t rly matter anyway I’ll probably get it back or not but I’ll be imaging with my goto 10” for planetary only

[white prawn]

Yeah it does. One person ruined it.

If you're imaging with a 10" Goto and don't get Mininerd back I'll be surprised.

[sand umbra]

I’m surprised, a singular person ruined it for everyone

Well I hope you’re doing well with your planetary

[white prawn]

I'd be doing great if it weren't for clouds and me just being a little worn out from the week any time it clears up. Right now is a beautiful clear night, usually I'm all over it for a full moon image or planetary if I can find one. Tonight I thought of the effort to set up and take down and was all "Nah."

Suppose that works out, it got a little windy today and still is tonight so the seeing would probably not be favorable.

Got an image with 3 of the 4 Galileans this year though.

I still need to practice with Mars. And remember what I did (other than over saturate) to get my mineral moon. (Did I process one color? RGB? Mono?)

[sand umbra]

I can say the same for me, unfortunately Hawai’i weather is bipolar, mountains making their own weather and the seeing is horrible, you get good seeing and good nights very rarely (not even once a month)

[sand umbra]

Any detail?

[sand umbra]

Unfortunately it’s been a year I can’t remember anything other than the people I talked with

[white prawn]

Slight on Ganymede. So much that Rio can do being 8", not going to compete with Tom's larger aperture.

[sand umbra]

Awesome! You’ve passed the resolution I’ve ever gotten to (yet)

I just have to wait till I have one of those days

[white prawn]

I'm into Solar imaging too a bit. Not using Rio for that though 😅

[sand umbra]

I had sun damage for my phone once from solar observing, I just wanted a quick pic but I was being stupid

I learned the hard way

But really I think it’s only worth it if you have a LUNT or something similar

[woven kite]

craters

[white prawn]

White light filter, solar continuum filter, converted to RGB and fiddled with colors.

It'll do until I can get the Lunt. Which since that rates for about the cost of a car will be a decent amount of time unless I fall into a job that pays me in piles of money.

[sand umbra]

Very good wide field

[white prawn]

Better than sun damage to eyes, though.

[glad mason]

Guys what barlow magnification do I need if I want to shoot jupiter, saturn, and mars if all I got is a mak 150 and an apsc sensor

[candid flare]

go into stellarium and add your telescope specs to see what it'll look like

[dark cargo]

which aps-c? For planetary the important thing is the pixel size as that determines how small of a detail each pixel sees at a certain focal length.

Max barlow power = 7 times pixel size in um divided by focal ratio

Probably would need a 2x barlow or something or not too much. Do note that you can vary the power of the barlow by decreasing or increasing the distance from the lens to the sensor.

You can ignore the total fov/sensor size as you will be using a small area of the sensor anyway: something like Jupiter will be probably around 250x250 pixels across with your setup.

[glad mason]

a6400, which has 3.91 micro pixels

I'm still deciding between a 2x or a 2.5x or a 3x

[white prawn]

When I was imaging with my Canon T7, pixel size 3.74µm, I was using a 5x

Or stacking two 2x

[glad mason]

I think a 5x is too much for me. 5x barlow makes my scope F60

[glad mason]

I've calculated it and the result are around 2.3x magnification max

[white prawn]

Fair enough; 5x on my setup set my OTA to F25, which was fine for the DSLR.

[glad mason]

should I get a 2.5x barlow or a 2x? My focal length is 1800mm

[white prawn]

What's the aperture?

[glad mason]

150mm

[white prawn]

1800 x 2 = 3600 / 150 = F24;
1800 x 2.5 = 4500 / 150 = F30

Pixel size in µm x 7 = ideal F
3.91 x 7 = 27.37

Under is better, over will be fuzzy.

2x would be best based on that.

[glad mason]

Hmm okay thanks for the help

[somber stratus]

Just got to get to altitude, above any inversion layer for good seeing

[sand umbra]

Exactly, I live about roughly 1000-1500ft above sea level so up country but it isn’t enough, as much as I would like the seeing up in Haleakala, the driving is a pain

[somber stratus]

Worth the painful drive imo, especially if you get yourself some more aperture. Lucky in some ways to be that close to a phenomenal site.

[low oar]

You gotta brighten the moon and feather the mask you made so it blends the glow

[somber stratus]

Neat read. https://amostech.com/TechnicalPapers/2015/Space_Weather/Felton.pdf

Key takeaway.

[quick cairn]

Sorry, I used wrong channel when pinging you

Anytime I derotate a shadow. This weird thing around it shows up. And I’ve tried every setting and can’t figure out how to fix it. I can mitigate it by not sharpening at all but then the photo isn’t as good as it could be?

This was my final image from that night. But I want to sharpen more.

This is what it looks like when I sharpen more

I would also like to do the same something like this, with Io half out. But same applies

[quick cairn]

Problem solved, thanks

[low oar]

Super moon mosaic coming soon

[woven kite]

mooning streak day 4

[low oar]

👀

[hasty hull]

Titan

[low oar]

clean

[woven kite]

nice, i can see the faintest bit of shadow rhea is casting too

[hasty hull]

Ah yeah was wondering if that was a shadow or what

[low oar]

Super moon 👀

[low oar]

my most detailed full moon image

115 Megapixels

[pearl jetty]

big

[woven kite]

big

[woven kite]

i found something useful for imaging that shows shadows with a time slider (wish the map was higher resolution) https://ciechanow.ski/moon/

[flint siren]

Mathematical crime to write things like that.

(the way you wrote the calculations)

[white prawn]

I'm open to suggestion on a better way. 🙂

[flint siren]

You literaly wrote 1800 x 2 = 3600 /150. With that you can prove that 0 = infinity.

[white prawn]

?

[flint siren]

Just think about it

[low oar]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DQw6CnagJO_/?igsh=eDE0Z2RuOHVmZ2o2

kennyscosmos

Our Moon In Full 🌕

On November 4th into the 5th imaged the moon for about 3 hours, capturing incredible amounts of detail under outstanding atmospheric conditions 📸

I captured 24,000 images and combined them all to complete this 115 Megapixel image of the full “Beaver” super moon of November 2025! 💻

I took 48 individual panels...

Instagram

It’s finished 😭

[flint siren]

Full beaver super moon. Sounds like a very real event.

When will they stop giving random shit names to the full moon for no reason ?

[white prawn]

0 = ∞ ?

[flint siren]

With what you wrote yeah

[low oar]

🤷‍♂️ time of year beavers are active

Blame the native Americans not me, I have nothing to do with beavers

[flint siren]

Then why don't u call a jup taken at the same time a beaver jupiter

[low oar]

Brotha

I’m not a Native American born in the 1500s but if I had to guess it was because everyone could see the full moon and not a clear image of Jupiter

[flint siren]

I'm just making jokes about y'all giving hilariously stupid names to the full moon for whatever reason

[somber isle]

Awesome

[thick heron]

https://www.almanac.com/full-moon-names

[flint siren]

Aberration that is.

[woven kite]

me when pink full moon is not pink

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sorry-gif-23824324

[rain mauve]

i had my hadley telescope completed

i need the to print the adapter to my tripod

[ancient kelp]

😂 loved this movie

[olive saddle]

it's one of my favorites

[sand umbra]

It is, transparency over here is probably the thing I have to worry the most. In the morning though it’s pretty common that the air will be really stable, I’m just not an early riser

I’ll be taking out the 10” tmrw morning though if stars are not blinking, anyone know how the northern band is doing? I’ve seen it has expanded then it decreased in size, I rly wanna see a lot of storms like 2018 jup

[woven kite]

i lost my mooning streak

[low oar]

Pause

[somber stratus]

Guess what, it’s your lucky day

Ken & I are imaging it now with the 24”. He’s visiting and reminded me to do it

[main flume]

:D

[low oar]

🤯

[silent mesa]

What do I need to do so i am able to send pictures in this forum

[sand umbra]

Now you need to prove your a nerd with good images

Recognition by people who can give you it

Really kind of doesn’t matter to me in my opinion

[silent mesa]

I recognized myself

[sand umbra]

I’m wondering if you could get the surface texture of it atp

[elder venture]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[ruby compass]

YO

[ruby compass]

W

[ruby compass]

when u have the data. could u pls send it? i wanna process

[somber stratus]

It's not that great. I'm processing now. Seeing was a little rough

[ruby compass]

pls send data

😮

[ruby compass]

so in other words. above average to everyone else standards

btw did u get only ir or also color data?

also did ina during the full moon with horrid seeing 😭

[main flume]

o:

[ruby compass]

color data

[somber stratus]

both

[ruby compass]

W

send the data bro

[somber stratus]

Colour is absolute garbage due to seeing. IR is far superior.

[ruby compass]

send both 🙏

[somber stratus]

sharpened colour

[ruby compass]

WHAT

HOLY

[somber stratus]

(IR)RGB

[ruby compass]

bro.

please send data

[somber stratus]

IR

OSC

[ruby compass]

why are there 2ir data?

[somber stratus]

idk, just two image runs. I averaged them.

for snr

[ruby compass]

ah

makes sense

[ruby compass]

the process is starting to look good 😄

its so hard to not overexpose anything tho

@somber stratus i tried. alr.

toms vs mine

[somber stratus]

what on earth happened to the colour

[ruby compass]

uh.. i couldnt get the color correct

idk what was wrong

but its kinda hard when the file is just green

[somber stratus]

Yeah that's raw output from an OSC cam. RGGB bayer matrix so you get twice the green signal.

[ruby compass]

ye

[somber stratus]

It's easy to correct for. You just set white point.

[ruby compass]

forgot to white blance 😭

prob why

here is just the ir data

it got really bright when i combined both files

but it was really good data tho

[somber stratus]

oversharpened imo

[ruby compass]

well its subjective ig

i like getting as much detials as possible

doesnt look natural tho

[somber stratus]

like here you have more contrast, but mine is actually finer in terms of detail. Edges are less "bloated".

[ruby compass]

yeah

your somehow looks higher resoultion tho

ig thats why

[somber stratus]

yup

sometimes less is more

[ruby compass]

ye i always struggle with not oversharpening lunar data xd

[ruby compass]

feel like your is just "slightly" better 😭 🙏

all jokes aside. is that good for an 8" with below average seeing?

[elder venture]

https://tenor.com/view/the-thing-thing-marvel-fantastic-four-fantastic-four-first-steps-gif-12898936790859772052

[sharp ridge]

It's pretty good if that was below average

[somber stratus]

Also resizing the image ~3x (aperture ratio) and visually comparing the detail level works nicely too, since resolution is prop. to aperture.

[ruby compass]

Yh

[flint siren]

Might interest somes here.

[sharp ridge]

found it, my old attempt with my 8"

[ruby compass]

How.

[sharp ridge]

Seeing

[ruby compass]

True

[sharp ridge]

[flint siren]

It ain't that hard

[ruby compass]

I had really bad seeing but luna was 60° above horizon

[flint siren]

Dunno why people in this server got a cult for it

[sharp ridge]

Real, it's funny

[flint siren]

[ruby compass]

Its a cool taget lol

It all honestly started with astrobiscuits video

[flint siren]

Yeah but y'all going too far with ts

[ruby compass]

Did u image it?

[flint siren]

Yeah

[ruby compass]

Show

[sharp ridge]

With small scopes it's a exciting target but once you get big ones you can do it no sweat

[flint siren]

With 8" at native, IR720

[main flume]

[flint siren]

From a mosaic done with a 4" frac, at 25°.

[main flume]

how does Richardson lucy deconv work for planetary, is it any good?

[ruby compass]

Bearly got it with an 4" is crazy

[elder venture]

live view from the eyepiece of my 130pds during supermoon

[elder venture]

How many elements?

[flint siren]

Two, it's an achromatic.

[flint siren]

There's a shadow in it if you pay attention.

[sharp ridge]

Don't think much people realize its a depression not a mound or smth

[elder venture]

really impressive for an achromat

even disregarding the equipment, really nice

[flint siren]

Well, the scope being at f/13.2, it's all good with a green filter.

No aberrations. They're smaller than the diffraction limit.

[ruby compass]

Northern Light like 4 days ago

@sharp ridge did u and tom image any other targets?

[somber stratus]

meh, can be useful but rarely. Best to just use wavelets and/or stellar deconvolution

[low oar]

Little sharp

[ruby compass]

ye

[low oar]

Good seeing

Ish

[ruby compass]

thats not from yesterday tho is it?

wait nvm

[ruby compass]

W

[low oar]

Nah that’s just some lunar I did

Super moon

[sharp ridge]

Not really, seeing just too bad

[ruby compass]

dang

this is really bad seeing right?

ir btw

[sharp ridge]

Yeah that's awful

[ruby compass]

my average btw

[sharp ridge]

I would just go back to sleep

[ruby compass]

@sharp ridge ts better right?

that was at 23 Degrees above horizon btw

deff exellent seeing

[sharp ridge]

Great for 23 deg

Overall like 7/10

[ruby compass]

this good?

same night

[main flume]

oker

[digital steppe]

woah, thats super impressive'

[low oar]

At the end of the day you just need big appature

You can get good seeing but the limit will always no matter what come down to the amount of light ur getting

[flint siren]

No ?

Limit is diffraction from the front aperture and baseline length.

[low oar]

Well yea yea

[sand umbra]

Holy shit man

I guessed it right

In Hawaii we have a front that reached us as soon as it clears up should be able to get some good seeing

[ruby compass]

@somber stratus will u ever make a full lunar mosaic?

[hasty hull]

Got this with my 6” in 2023

Nice we have an interesting range of aperture showcase here lmao

[ruby compass]

w

[ruby compass]

yeah

[native plume]

do you need a uv/ir cut to get ina? or just no filters at all

[low oar]

It’s just a surface detail on the moon anyone can shoot it, apature and seeing is kinda where it comes into play

[native plume]

mmm might try it next full moon

[low oar]

Doesn’t have to be full to see it

It’s in the middle of the moon roughly

[native plume]

ah ic

[livid sierra]

With such a small feature the UV/IR cut helps quite a bit.

[livid sierra]

Atmospheric dispersion and no UV/IR cut can definitely ruin your chances to actually resolve Ina.

[wild rose]

dang i didnt know they pointed hubble at the moon, musted have friend the sensor a lil lol

[rain mauve]

hey i want to ask any idea how to capture moon surface with untracked?

[candid flare]

point at moon
take photo
congratulations you have taken a photo of the moons surface

this was untracked

[thick heron]

http://nicmosis.as.arizona.edu:8000/UVFLOOD/HST_SUN_IMAGE.html

[flint siren]

That's an anti image, it doesn't count.

[rain mauve]

what if umm i want to do stacking?

is it like impossible to do it? or it needs tracker to do stacking?

[candid flare]

take a video. its bright and you want lots of subs for the best seeing so taking a video is the best way to do it since you get FPS

if youre using a dslr, run it through pipp and then autostakkert

[rain mauve]

does pipp can recognize what am i going to stack? since its out from the FOV

[candid flare]

it has object detection parameters

[rain mauve]

alrightttt, i might need to tweak some settings

thanks anyway

appriciate it

[ruby compass]

U dont need one but I would recommend it for extra sharpness

[low oar]

Definitely I was just saying resolving it

[quick cairn]

moon

[quick cairn]

I achived this with 6" Callisto and Ganymede

[quick cairn]

Tom, when i try using my adc it always seems the two things you move to align the channels are best when i dont move them from the starting point, also how do you use it without releveling every few mins?

[ancient kelp]

🔥

Did you use a Barlow?

[quick cairn]

yeah a 3x

[quick cairn]

(Havent tried this data very much)

[dapper spade]

Hey quick question I have a meade lx90 8 inch and a ZWO asi462mc camera and my images are terrible. It is collimated according to a star test (admittedly on Saturn there were no good stars in the portion of sky I could get from where I was), I use PIPP, Autostakkert!4 and Wavesharp2.0, but debayering seems not not work particularly well and the images are kind of blurry-grainy? Any help on what the problem might be would be greatly appreciated, thanks

[brisk yacht]

how do you even align lunar data?

[low oar]

Press rgb align

[brisk yacht]

no i mean like how do i allign different stacks

[low oar]

Wdym

Like color and ir?

[brisk yacht]

yes

[low oar]

Photoshop

[brisk yacht]

dang

[low oar]

Just align them on top of each other perfectly and then press the color overlay

[brisk yacht]

i thought there was a less time consuming way

[low oar]

Takes 2 seconds

Maybe 1

[quick cairn]

Can also use winjupos

[quick cairn]

Hey @somber stratus with a 10” 4000mm F/17.5 what exposure works best? I keep histogram 70-80%? Also for the histogram am I targeting white light on the histogram or green? Or what?

I usually do 7ms but I feel like when I focus well at 4000mm it’s still really dim

Uranus c

Like your live view on your most popular Jupiter post looks really bright compared to mine

And last question how do you focus at such a high focal length? I find it very hard

[low oar]

Settings come down to seeing most of the time

[quick cairn]

That’s true

[quick cairn]

What about this, Kenny?

[low oar]

There’s no works best

I usually run 7-10 depending how bright the planet is

On the big ones like Saturn and Jupiter obviously

[quick cairn]

I see, and which wavelength for histogram

[low oar]

?

[quick cairn]

Because there is 4 on my histogram

Red blue green and white

[low oar]

Yea that’s rgb

[quick cairn]

White is the average right

[low oar]

You said Uranus c?

Just shoot rgb

[quick cairn]

Yes

I do

[low oar]

It’s automatic

[quick cairn]

I’m asking what histogram range

[low oar]

Depends

Get your exposure then worry about gain

It depends rly

There’s no perfect settings cuz there’s no perfect conditions

[quick cairn]

I see

[low oar]

If we were on the moon and had the same camera everyone would use the same settings

[quick cairn]

What histogram range do you shoot for?

[low oar]

I don’t look at that most of the time

But I guess high 70s to mid 80s

Ethan fina drop some better knowledge so listen to him

[quick cairn]

I hope lol

[thick heron]

I'm mostly running the same 12ms exposure time on the bright planets and adjusting gain as needed.

[low oar]

^

For me it’s 8-10 and adjust gain as needed

[quick cairn]

Thank you, Rthan

Ethan

[low oar]

Again conditions

[quick cairn]

And as for the red blue and green lines on the histogram

[low oar]

Don’t look at those

[quick cairn]

Which one do you set at 80%

[low oar]

It’s all one thing

Your shooting in color

[quick cairn]

Maybe I don’t know how to read a histogram right then

[thick heron]

Had my name right the first time.

[low oar]

Your using a color camera

[somber stratus]

10ms will do. And ~85% on the brightest of the three channels if running colour.

[quick cairn]

See the different lines

[quick cairn]

They are separate, is white the average?

[thick heron]

There isn't one right exposure time. Just don't go crazy long or crazy short.

[low oar]

Just rgb

[quick cairn]

You are confused Kenny

I’m not asking about which channel to use

[low oar]

I know

[quick cairn]

I’m asking when I’m setting the % on the histogram

Which color do I put at 80%

[low oar]

It’s all 1 thing

[somber stratus]

Presumably it’s luminance, so 85% on this is also fine.

[quick cairn]

Thank you

[somber stratus]

Just make sure you’re not overexposed. Can’t go that wrong otherwise

[quick cairn]

Thanks

Thank yall, is apologize for my confusion

[low oar]

👍

And for focusing just go back and forth

[sand umbra]

Tom what do you website do you use for seeing conditions

[quick cairn]

Not sure about him but I use atmosphereic

[candid flare]

his eyes

[quick cairn]

At night too

[sand umbra]

What skywatcher truss do you have?

Once weather clears up and hopefully seeing is steady I’ll try to do better than my last years run

Especially with my aperture I have a lot of potential

[quick cairn]

I use a 10” skywatcher

[low oar]

He likes windy.com

But I’ll let him answer when he comes on 😂

[sand umbra]

We have the same scope!

[quick cairn]

Awesome

[woven kite]

this would cut my mouth if i bit into it

[quick cairn]

Indeed, love this part of the moon

[summer pebble]

Saturn and some pretty thin rings

[rain mauve]

Is sv305 pro good?

I've only had this option in my local store, I need to import if I want brand like zwo or player one, which it's cost me 30-50 percent more because of shipping and taxes

[quick cairn]

Its better than nothing, but I would buy from asi or zwo

or player one astronomy

[glad mason]

are you from southeast asian countries by any chance?

[rain mauve]

Yess

[rain mauve]

Okayyy

Me myself actually want to grab the player one, but since yeah the taxes and shipping cost crazy I need to spend more money 🙁 so sad actually

[quick cairn]

indeed

[glad mason]

are you located in Indonesia?

[rain mauve]

Yes

[glad mason]

there is this store in malaysia called optical universe scientific instrument, never bought stuff from there but it looks legit. The prices are not too bad too

[ruby compass]

Woah

[native plume]

i got my telescope and other equipment from ous and its overall alright, never got broken stuff

(i like buying from that store because shipping is cheaper for me in malaysia compared to buying something from amazon that has ike x4 the shipping price here)

[glad mason]

yeah the shipping rate is not that expensive

[white prawn]

I had an SV105, wouldn't go with that brand. Granted that's their "bottom of the barrel" line compared to the 305 and still I'd recommend Player One or QHC

[native plume]

(btw optical universe scientific doesnt sell player one / qhy cameras only zwo and touptek cameras if youre planning to buy from there)

[rain mauve]

Thank you, but still I still need to pay the shipping and the taxes, which is expensive

[rain mauve]

Okayy thankss

Actually the price is the same as the player one mars c II, the one I picked which is same as sv305 pro
The problem yeah the shipping and taxes and I cannot bypass it rip
Making the import price like extra 60-100 dollar

[glad mason]

it is definitely cheaper to buy from that store compared to buying directly tho

[rain mauve]

Okay

[rain mauve]

Which brand are you recommend it?

Like what zwo? For planetary?

I might be considering one if it's good

[glad mason]

zwo is overpriced

[rain mauve]

Ooohh, I'm like new to these brand

I don't know what's good or what's bad

[white prawn]

ZWO

• Overpriced
• Other brands are more capable even on the same product (I've spoken with people who say the Player One Uranus-C is better than the ZWO ASI 585 even though same sensor, not sure the exact reasoning)
• ZWO uses open source software and closes it which is against usage agreement
• Their ASIAir is an up-jumped pi that can be outperformed by a minipc running an Intel 4-core Celeron CPU.

Which is to say, I won't say that they're a bad company; I can't say I'd recommend their product, either.

Player One

• Decent Price
• Decent product
• Would have purchased their Uranus-C if I wasn't impatient to get my planetary camera.

QHY

• Also Decent price
• Also decent product
• They're a scientific camera company
• I've seen this brand positively mentioned in this discord.

[low oar]

I love my Uranus c

[rain mauve]

Hey thanks for the insight, making me thinking twice to buy a product

[elder venture]

Quality
ToupTek <= ZWO < Player-One < QHY

Pricing (ascending)
ToupTek <= Player-One < ZWO <= QHY

Support (personal knowledge, all besides ZWO are really good)
ZWO << QHY < ToupTek < Player-One

Price to Quality Ratio
ZWO < QHY <= Player-One < ToupTek

[white prawn]

My current setup consists of an ASI585 (was too impatient to order/wait for the Uranus-C), a minipc or laptop (depending on what I'm trying to accomplish) and a Onstep that I'm still trying to learn on my StarView Pro EQ5 from Orion.

[rain mauve]

What happen to sv bony product?

Is it not recommended?

[rain mauve]

Oh my bad I'm trying to replying this message

[white prawn]

So along with what Jolly said above for cameras, I'd recommend minipc over pi all 8 days of the week. I have a Beelink U59 minipc ... tbh wish I would have purchased one that's more powerful though it does the job pretty well when I limit to imaging.

[rain mauve]

Sorry

[elder venture]

Id only recommend SVBony cameras if you have a SUUUUPPPPEEEERR tight budget

[rain mauve]

I see... That's some good setup

[elder venture]

ive heard many good and many bad things about their cameras so theyre grey space

[rain mauve]

Soo device issue?

[rain mauve]

Okayy thankss

[elder venture]

You dont really need a minipc at all

a toaster could run imaging

[white prawn]

Heh, no worries. I think everyone prefers Player One or Touptek or QHY over svbony. I won't recommend them. Their SV105 camera can't be used with some software, and it kept crashing SharpCap for me. I've said that it's a bottom of the barrel product, and it's utter garbage that isn't worth a cent, let alone the $50 I paid for mine. Not sure how other svbony cameras fare. I do know that they do compressing on camera that prevents getting a good raw image for processing so honestly they're object non grata in my book.

[elder venture]

any laptop he may have access to works

[elder venture]

Dont use the SV105 as a point of reference please 😭

[white prawn]

Fair. I'm just saying that I wouldn't recommend a pi product for imaging, I think they're a little bit more limited.

A potato could do imaging though. I have a Dell laptop that I started imaging on. I got the minipc because I want to be able to remotely image and I personally think it's easier to do that on a minipc than the laptop.

[rain mauve]

So I have a local store that sells sv 305 pro it sells at around 200 dollars
Beside from that I want to buy also the mars c II player one
It's 199 dollar at the store
When I checkout the total cost of shipping is extra 30 dollars
That doesn't include the taxes of country
Usually they added 30-50 percent of my current product if I wanted to import a produc from the other country
So I have to pay like 80-160 dollars extra

So I need to pay 400 dollars at the end

[white prawn]

I'd stay away from the sv305, personally.

[rain mauve]

Maybe for some you guys it's small
But for my country it's really big tho...

[rain mauve]

I see...

I don't know paying extra 150-200 dollars makes it worth or no

Man I hate being live in here, everything is so expensive

[white prawn]

I make no judgement on how the cost of things can be compared to what someone has in their pocket. I sold my house to get my first good telescope so I have no room to judge. 😆

Required budget for astrophotography: ∞

[rain mauve]

Woahhh that's some dedicated hobby

That's insane, respect for youu

[rain mauve]

REALLLL