💜 Typology & Personality

[azure ibex]

I can promise you I have never in my life 💀

[dim oak]

Wow your Ni is really high

[neon niche]

joke

[dim oak]

Even higher then Karas's

[azure ibex]

Is NI like how you inteperet things?

So ig more of an introverted thinker?

[neon niche]

Ni is ... like a hunch or insight

and you don't know where your hunch comes from

[azure ibex]

I suppose thats accurate

[jaunty willow]

wait i told you what i was

IS something

ISTP

here we go

[neon niche]

i need a screenshot as proof, since quizzes on other websites might not be accurate

[jaunty willow]

oh this is serious

ok

ill do it again

waaaait

hold on

if im the same personality type as the person who left today

am i getting kicked out

lol

[azure ibex]

yes 100%

banished

[tranquil heart]

Nah you're good

[jaunty willow]

all these questions are really up to me to evaluate

[neon niche]

we still have INTJ people here... in fact one of the mods is INTJ

[jaunty willow]

but i guess ill do my best

[neon niche]

you are definitely not INTJ don't worry

[tranquil heart]

Lmao I thought ethereal immediately when I saw this

[azure ibex]

they are baiting you do not listen

Do not trust Baras and Krynjar

[tranquil heart]

Krynjar

[neon niche]

ethereal is literally in this thread... he knows how we like to diss INTJ

[tranquil heart]

Ethereal is a real one

[neon niche]

but it's a truth that a lot of INTJ are emotionally stunted

[azure ibex]

Ethe *is a * real one

[jaunty willow]

dang these questions are wildin

making me think hard about my life

lol

i really can't say a definitive yes or no

most of my answers are in the middle lol

is it just me

for the mbti test

[neon niche]

you should avoid neutral as much as possible or the answer won't be accurate

[azure ibex]

I only answered like 1-2 neutral either because I didn't know or didn't understand the question

[jaunty willow]

oh then ill try to go over the neutral ones again

and possibly switch them to a no or yes

for the question You live in the "here and now.", does it mean like daydreaming?

opposite of daydreaming

[azure ibex]

Its more of you care about present events

[jaunty willow]

perhaps

[azure ibex]

simply enjoying the moment type of feel

[neon niche]

it means, you dont daydream about the future and the past

you live in reality

[azure ibex]

wake up to reality

[neon niche]

to me and INFP people. the answer is straight-up a no. we daydream a lot

[jaunty willow]

since i do homework all the time i guess im up to date..

i guess i do live in present

[neon niche]

yeah

[azure ibex]

its more of a mindset rather than what you are doing but ig so

[tranquil heart]

Amen

[jaunty willow]

lol

[neon niche]

sometimes i wonder if i should drive since i don't feel connected to reality and i fear that one day i might cause a car crash

[azure ibex]

[neon niche]

my Se is so low - which means i suck at dancing and rhythm game and action game, which is actually true
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/789924425129918497/929496616115769364/FireShot_Webpage_Screenshot_004_-_mbti_cognitive_function_test_grant_brownsword_-_sakinorva.net.png

[tranquil heart]

I just hate driving in general so I don't have a license yet

[azure ibex]

**snap back to reality **

[neon niche]

i can't avoid it here 💀

[azure ibex]

how did you manage to get 10--

[jaunty willow]

You "just know" things without being able to consciously put them into words.lmao superpower?

[tranquil heart]

Intuition

[neon niche]

Ni thing

INFJ and INTJ people are really good at this

[jaunty willow]

oooh

intuition

[azure ibex]

Lol this was my favorite question

When i saw it I was like "Wait... this is literally me!"

its like everything connected

[jaunty willow]

well depends on the subject tho

[neon niche]

i probably answered no to all questions that relate to Se (e.g. do you enjoy dancing and partying)

[tranquil heart]

Parties kinda cringe imo

[jaunty willow]

i might be 0 intuitive at something im not good at but vise versa

so this question kinda weird

[azure ibex]

with close friends they are fun

but with randoms it can be a bit... over the top for me

[tranquil heart]

I just hate having people in my house 💀

[azure ibex]

not me just standing in the corner

yep id rather go to others tbh

[jaunty willow]

oh maybe if Im not a good explainer

if im a "bad explainer", it might be a yes

[neon niche]

no -,-

[jaunty willow]

i think i am a bad explainer

[neon niche]

the point is that you just know something without thinking it

to us it's like, meeting a person and knowing if they are good or bad

[azure ibex]

If it doesnt click for you its prob a no

[tranquil heart]

I just like to think of it as a bullshit sensor

[neon niche]

my guess is usually 90% accurate

[jaunty willow]

oh i do know if a teacher is about to give me an f or not

[neon niche]

just answer no

you aren't like that

[azure ibex]

10% of victims are falsely banned every year by Karas... only you can stop this terrible problem... please donate today to my cause

[jaunty willow]

okie

[neon niche]

💀 FYI i don't ban people without reason, i am quite forgiving actually

other mods are stricter than me

[azure ibex]

Yes Karas you are the most forgiving moderator 🙏 Thank you Karas for being such a kind person 🙏 I agree with your opinion Karas 🙏 +10 social credit

On a serious note: I have noticed that. most mods here are pretty chill anyway

[tranquil heart]

That social credit edit💀

[azure ibex]

💀 you saw nothing 😄

[neon niche]

some people will disagree fu hu hu

[jaunty willow]

You rely on external sources to support your argument.lol this is me i always give them evidence rather than saying 100+ words to prove im right

You prefer living in your dreams to living in the real world. This is literally a question asking: do you have depression or not?

lol

[azure ibex]

ehh not rlly

its more of having an imagination outside of the "predetermined world"

[dim oak]

Daydreams are seriously great

[neon niche]

i think i have a pretty healthy mind but i still daydream a lot

[dim oak]

A good way to spend time when you're bored

[jaunty willow]

oh in that case the answer is a no to these days

[solar bridge]

Happens to me all the time

Especially when I'm trying to explain things

[jaunty willow]

You often feel awkward and aimless during leisure time If it's leisure time where i do things I like then yes

wait

i meant no

[azure ibex]

nyos

[jaunty willow]

You tend to express sympathy only after you empathize with someone. does laughing when somebody else starts laughing count

i think laughing is contagious

[neon niche]

do you know what sympathy means...

[jaunty willow]

so prolly not

feeling the same?

oh

[tranquil heart]

you're only good to people you like
Transcribed by yours truly

[jaunty willow]

thats empathy

empathy is what i was thinking

nvm

[neon niche]

tbh Moss might not be INFP since Moss's Ni is way too high compared with other functions

Ni is not INFP's function

[azure ibex]

Hmm Idk maybe

I will say though after reading through articles and stuff about INFP

95% is accurate

since I have a higher Introverted Intuition... what would that most likely lead to? \

[neon niche]

nvm i checked it again, your Ne was also high

[azure ibex]

thats that like cancel it out or something im clueless

just a high base intuition ?

[neon niche]

Ni and Ne are two different things
your Ni is higher than Ne but it's not one of the main function stacks of INFP

so it's kind of like... hidden i guess

[azure ibex]

interesting

So that means im just built different...*I knew it *

[neon niche]

you have INTJ tendency apparently

[azure ibex]

what is the difference?

id asume its subtle?

[neon niche]

well, look at the second screenshot

INFP and INTJ are completely different, but you are like a blend of both of them

[jaunty willow]

You may be described as ditzy or scatterbrained lol this is one of the last questions to do and this question asks me if i lack concentration

man i went thru 100 questions

[azure ibex]

I have a feeling Im getting banned soon

[neon niche]

yes

[jaunty willow]

i obviously dont lack concentration

lmao

[azure ibex]

I can tell you for sure... I do not have the confidence that a INTJ possess

Id rather lay low 😄

Also Im not to sure if INTJ possess high empathy, but I defo do

[neon niche]

well, you aren't INTJ don't worry

[azure ibex]

~~Saved from the 10% 🙏 ~~

[neon niche]

I can only say that INTJ are cold as fuck

from my experience of dealing with them

[azure ibex]

Yep I feel like I know a few of those types of ppl

Personalities are more interesting than I thought

[dim oak]

Yes they are

[azure ibex]

Or atleast the study of them

[dim oak]

ESTJ is the best personality

[neon niche]

i will say this
ESTJ are hated and the only people who like them are ENTJ this says everything

a person tried to defend ESTJ on reddit but their argument was extremely weak

[azure ibex]

fuck ESTJ, all my homies hate ESTJ /s

[tranquil heart]

reddit, the place where sensors go to die

[neon niche]

sensors are people too 💀

i was ISFJ as well

[dim oak]

But I care about everyone and I'm quite good hearted

😭

[neon niche]

right now, maybe

when you first joined the server you offended quite a lot of people

[azure ibex]

typical ESTJ... Im already offended

[dim oak]

I have feelings

Sorry I'm not a robot 😭

[neon niche]

🗿

[dim oak]

I feel judged

[azure ibex]

As an empath, ~~I am judging you ~~ I understand your feelings in this situation 😄

[neon niche]

it's my job

[dim oak]

Also what do you mean by maybe

[neon niche]

semantics lol

[jaunty willow]

ISTJ?

oh up there i said istp

[neon niche]

show me a screenshot..

[jaunty willow]

well i mentioned ISTP

i didn't change much

maybe ISTJ now

[neon niche]

it's ISTP

[jaunty willow]

oh

what

[neon niche]

well, i can't be sure until you've tested on this website, since other websites aren't accurate

[jaunty willow]

Well i might've gotten ISTJ before too

it's like always either ISTJ or ISTP

something along the IS line

[finite oriole]

Based again

[jaunty willow]

IST line

so what can you tell about me now

what was that image of proof for

oh i got a role

[neon niche]

?? i need the result screen to know if you are ISTP or not

you can look up what ISTP means online

[jaunty willow]

oh that's not it?

oh

ok

so i got the role now

cool

[jaunty willow]

ISTP indicates a person who is energized by time spent alone

so true

[stable anvil]

for completion's sake, here's my screencap from yesterday

did some reading, and now the Grant thing makes more sense

still freaky to see the E in anything that has to do with me

[azure ibex]

I got my friend to do the test for fun... What is his personality if anyone doesnt mind to take a look at it? Thanks

[cyan vapor]

ENTP i presume

[azure ibex]

Thats what we thought but idk if thats what it rlly was

[cyan vapor]

perhaps some relation to intp? in the bottom? but mainly just xNTP

[azure ibex]

Kinda funny because he likes to debate all the time... which can be annoying lol

[neon niche]

yeah, ENTP

we are looking at myers function type (the second row) here
grant function and myers letter type are different

[delicate sky]

what do this mean

[solar bridge]

Another INTP 🥳

[tranquil heart]

You're with the boys

[delicate sky]

pog

[solar bridge]

[onyx vine]

[cyan vapor]

Karas-san, not mine, what's this mean, J or P

[azure ibex]

xxxx

looks like they put neutral for everything or something

[tranquil heart]

Someone clicked neutral for everything 😂

[stable anvil]

personality: NA

[tranquil heart]

Centrists smh

[azure ibex]

or they are just built different

[neon niche]

someone obviously just clicked neutral on everything

[stable anvil]

wonder why does it resort to ENFP for the Grant function, though

[cyan vapor]

aaah i see

💀

[solar bridge]

Perhaps ENFPs are most likely to select neutral answers on tests like this

/j

[coarse abyss]

lmaoo 46 on every personality

[cyan vapor]

i convinced them to give the test again seriously lmao'

[cyan vapor]

also i didnt see that 😂

[stable anvil]

lol

for real now, my best guess is that, since (to my knowledge) the Grant function is calculated as "best match with the model", accounting for possible ties is more important than it would be for the Myers function (where I guess it'd be wildly unlikely)

that does make me wonder though, would the results be the same if one were to do that a second time? and if not, is it just because of the order each of the potential results were implemented in the code?

does make me wonder about my own ENFP result for the Grant function... although that's probably because of my ridiculous Ne results

which, after reading what it's supposed to be... yeah, there's no way it could've gone any other way

[solar bridge]

[novel marsh]

entp 9w8 (926) (2w1 6w7) Sang-Mel SLUAI yomama deez-nuts

ITS TYPOLOGY OKJ ITHOUGHT THIS WAS TYPOLOGY CHANNEL 😭

[tranquil heart]

I'm just thinking that Karas didn't think about something

Regex clearly failing

[novel marsh]

also -T and -A doesn't exist

[tranquil heart]

Like anything else in here exists either

I'm just here for the stereotypes

[novel marsh]

take 16personalities there's a 90% chance you get mistyped as INFP or INTP or INFJ i can't make this up

[tranquil heart]

If you don't think 16personalities is accurate, don't use it

[novel marsh]

it's not

-T and -A are only on 16personalities anyway and it types based off letters not functions so it's inaccurate

i'll cry if i see assertive/turbulent ever again no more i beg

[tranquil heart]

too bad, because we have roles for that

[novel marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/walterwhite-breakingbruh-breakingbad-funny-meme-gif-21321734

[neon niche]

"ENTP is mid" our resident typologist

[novel marsh]

i hate entp

do you think its something I'm proud of? No I hate it to high hell it's my fatal flaw and I would rather sacrifice my first born child than be one but after years of introspection I have come to the uncaring truth

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/882753965681418273/896152319975104553/image0.gif

tbf I have been stuck in a. Ne-Fe loop for a long time too and I also struggle with my identity a lot thanks to being blurry but

(it's all just pseudoscience in the end who cares)

[neon niche]

It's ok you can still change yourself slowly bit by bit

[tranquil heart]

Isn't that what makes it spicy?? 🥵

[novel marsh]

it's a cognitive function they don't usually change overnight bcuz it's how you perceive the world and process emotions + thoughts

[neon niche]

Even if you dont think about it too much, 5 years later you might not recognise your old self

[novel marsh]

about that

https://tenor.com/view/farcry6-gif-23383353

[neon niche]

💀

[tranquil heart]

I have no idea how I was 1 year ago

[novel marsh]

prior to December i didn't even front

[tranquil heart]

front?

[novel marsh]

🤫

[feral moss]

@trail ridge Please do the test in the pinned message and send the results here

Might need to wait awhile though since karas (our admin who takes care of mbti roles) is asleep now

[trail ridge]

Will do!

[feral moss]

Oh right

@neon niche Foxter's mbti role

Sorry for pinging

[terse slate]

Ok nvm

im not 100% sure tho

[neon niche]

It's actually myers function type 💀

[terse slate]

whaaaat

[neon niche]

i've made a mistake previously

[terse slate]

u changed it?🥺

Tbh idk the difference

Between those

And I don’t remember my result www

[neon niche]

i can probably find it

most people here have the same grant and myers type though

[terse slate]

I scrolled back for a min but gave up

lol

[neon niche]

horahora

[terse slate]

The top and bottom ones?

I see ppl having different ones more👀

[neon niche]

only the second row

[terse slate]

ohhhh

Thank u

So the second raw is like, the average of your top and bottom ones?

how come I didn’t get INFJ…..

what the heck is myers even

tbh I can’t say I’m 100% INFP or INFJ, but I feel like I have more 思い当たる節 for INFP

[neon niche]

The first row is socionics

The second row is the MBTI result, which is calculated by comparing your scoring in functions (Ne, Ni, Se...) to this table https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1020743568450670795/1020743569373417622/sshot-2022-07-30-00-58-30.png

Third row is the 16personalities one which doesn't account for function stacks...most typologists don't agree with it though

@terse slate

since all three rows show the same result, your result should be accurate

[terse slate]

But I get a different result in 16 personalities…lol

無理難しすぎるー

わ

わら

でも説明ありがと

I now at least know what those three rows are

[past glacier]

I am still ENFP no matter what 🥹

[neon niche]

where is your result?

i cant find it

[past glacier]

.

[neon niche]

ah

interesting

[past glacier]

This is long ago

This is recent

Why skull 😭

[neon niche]

i think your score is way too high to be accurate

[calm sable]

But I am ENFP no matter what, right?

Karas

[Reply to:](#1020743568450670795 message) i think your score is way too high to be accurate

[neon niche]

i guess lol

why is your score so high though?

most people only have 1 or 2 functions over 30

[stable anvil]

I got 5 above 30, does that mean I failed the test?

(to be honest, I put a lot of 1s and 5s, I felt pretty strongly about most of the stuff)

[past glacier]

I don't know
I guess the previous result is more accurate
Sometimes, I feel bored and take the test, so it might be inaccurate 😂

[neon niche]

wow
i think i also put in a lot of 1 and 5 but yours is still not as extreme as mine

idk how i got 10 in Se
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/789924425129918497/978951184327012402/FireShot_Webpage_Screenshot_004_-_mbti_cognitive_function_test_grant_brownsword_-_sakinorva.net.png

i'm the only person who has a 10 in all results i've seen

[stable anvil]

wow

[past glacier]

Karas so intuitive all your senses are gone

You are just floating in your dreams

[neon niche]

Extraverted Sensors live in the present. They thrive on new and exciting experiences. They are typically athletic and like to display their talents to the world. They also have a keen eye for aesthetics and have an enjoyment for “the finer things in life.”

They enjoy exotic trips, fine dining, and adrenaline packed experiences. They Se user may find themselves bored with routines and feel the need to do something that makes them feel more free and alive. Extraverted Sensors also tend to be the life of the party. They enjoy fun get togethers and try to make sure everyone is having a good time.

Extraverted Sensing is also good at sizing up a situation. They seem to almost intuitively know what they can get away with in a certain situation and just how far they can push it. This comes from experience of taking risks, being burned, and eventually understanding where the line is that they can’t cross.

cannot relate at all

and INFJ also has Se as the inferior function

[stable anvil]

for some reason, personality tests either give me extreme values or have absolutely no idea what to do with me

I tried the enneagram as well, and it said that my result had low accuracy, so I didn't bother posting it

[neon niche]

interesting 👀

[stable anvil]

on the other hand, here's my big 5 for contrast

[terse slate]

Is the test available in Japanese yet

[neon niche]

blue-san 英語ができるはずです

[terse slate]

Noooo not good enough🥺 they have Korean and Chinese but not Japanese

those three are usually 友達🤝

3点セット

[neon niche]

HAHAHAHA

[terse slate]

If one of them is available, other two too

😂

[neon niche]

ブルーさんなりのジョーク

[terse slate]

Ohohojoho

[vernal zephyr]

Wait, what happened to your profile pic Karas? It's... bright and colorful? Where's the emo flair? The dark shades of blue and grey? The ninja/lone gunman against a rainy background? I don't know if I can handle a cheerful Karas PFP.

[cedar wedge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1020323424645697597/1022365690017087528/magik.gif

[neon niche]

I agree

tbh my profile background should be white as well to go with the pfp, but it would be hypocrite of me since i've told opera to change to a black background as well just few days ago

[tranquil heart]

noodles are pretty pog

[uneven steeple]

18 and 30 is a large gap

[vernal zephyr]

That's a call back to last month.

[novel marsh]

wait you can get mbti roles?

can you get ennea roles too?

[feral moss]

only mbti roles

[novel marsh]

rip

can i get enfj mbti role

im not actually an enfj im an entp but theyre annoying and i like lying online

[past glacier]

No

It doesn't matter if you like lying online or what you think about certain MBTI types
We will only assign you an mbti role if you show screenshots of your result of the MBTI test in pinned message
Karas will analyse your result and she'll assign you the role

[novel marsh]

I know what my mbti is i’ve been into typology for years chill 😭🤝

[neon niche]

theyre annoying
i like lying online
the irony

[uneven steeple]

so i'm reading about the harvard personality rating thing and i'm a little concerned about myself

Way too vague to tell for sure, but some traits I often heard from Harvard alumni interviewers for students that received a 1 are "seemed like they would be amazing friends for their classmates", "didn't appear to treat college like a competition for grades", "wouldn't be intimidated by other bright and active people", and "memorable even 20-30 years later." Essentially, you must stand out as a person everyone wants to be around (which is highly subjective)...

[neon niche]

even though INFJ is just 1% in the world?

[uneven steeple]

that's weird

i'm INTP 😢

[tranquil heart]

You're expelled

[uneven steeple]

such a generic tryhard personality

[uneven steeple]

says the INTP

[neon niche]

you just offended other 24 INTP people in this server
RIP

[stable anvil]

not me, he's absolutely right

[tranquil heart]

I'm only tryhard in the things I'm interested in

so Japanese

[neon niche]

the interesting thing is i hear INTP people say "INTP people are mid" all the time

[uneven steeple]

so mid

i'm mid

ur mid

we're all mid

[calm sable]

Not me though

Leppur

"INTPs are pretty cool" -unbiased review by me

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[neon niche]

except you i guess...

[uneven steeple]

the true successful people are the people who are not intps

every intp knows that

[tranquil heart]

I mean you first have to define successful

[stable anvil]

the sooner you stop thinking about success in absolute terms, the better

[uneven steeple]

successful i.e. not me

[tranquil heart]

I just want to get closer to my goals 🙏

[uneven steeple]

I concur

who will be the 3rd line !!?!?!!?!?

sorry math joke

[calm sable]

Karas

INTP people are cool when they are not chaotic LOL

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[tranquil heart]

ah shit, I'm not cool then

[uneven steeple]

why does this describe me so well

that's not allowed

[stable anvil]

lol

[calm sable]

Leppur

I think non-INTPs will be intimidated by our coolness since it's is very intense 😎

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[tranquil heart]

I'm known for spitting fax 😎

Oh yeah, I remember the context now

LMAOo

[uneven steeple]

I got 1/42 points for effort on math olympiad

TwT

[calm sable]

Leppur

INTPs, more like PogTPs (you see, it's because they are very pog)

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[uneven steeple]

and only become i apparently proved something random somehow in my solution

[stable anvil]

lol, somehow reminds me of that time I got the right result in a physics test while using the wrong formula

my teacher was unsure as to how to grade that

[neon niche]

recognising that you are inadequate is a sign of maturity, that's all i will say

[tranquil heart]

I don't know if this is appropriate for this channel, but I just found out to day that people with blue eyes are perceived as less trustworthy, and brown eyes are seen as more trustworthy

Kinda interesting

[neon niche]

majide

i like blue eyes though

[tranquil heart]

https://www.prevention.com/life/a20440474/blue-eyed-people-perceived-as-less-trustworthy/

sample size only 238 tho

[neon niche]

idk, when i see people with blue eyes i focus on their eyes a lot and tend to judge them less

people with crazy blue eyes are 🥵

[tranquil heart]

mine are more like gray-ish

also that article just descended into how to spot a liar 🗿

[neon niche]

@onyx vine whats your result again? i can't find it

[onyx vine]

Should be INTP, right?

Eh?

[neon niche]

the screenshots of the result screen

[onyx vine]

Let me look

[azure ibex]

INTJ clearly

[onyx vine]

This is from when I first talked to you

This was a few months later

[tranquil heart]

converted by the crow

[onyx vine]

Why did you ask anyway lol

[azure ibex]

INTJ moment

[neon niche]

i need to recheck everyone's result to make sure i didn't make a mistake in understanding the result

[onyx vine]

Ahh I see

[neon niche]

i just rechecked hana's result and she was INTP, i just didn't understand back then

[tranquil heart]

iFly lost his INTP flare 🔥

[neon niche]

how

he's 3x INTP

[azure ibex]

I hope im INFP

[neon niche]

3 times as powerful

[onyx vine]

[uneven steeple]

hold on what

[outer saddle]

I am INTP 3 times too, ya know.

[onyx vine]

I should do one at the end of the year to see if I've changed

[neon niche]

yeah it's INFP

[tranquil heart]

I mean you asked

[neon niche]

why are you two so similar

[onyx vine]

We are the same. It doesn't matter

[tranquil heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799325519682338828/997255812487590068/unknown.png

I'm a fake intp

only 1 times

[neon niche]

mid

[outer saddle]

We are soul mates.

[onyx vine]

Being called "mid" by Karas

That's a new low

[outer saddle]

💀

[uneven steeple]

i'm like ENTP INTP INFP don't ask how

[tranquil heart]

I'm good at that

[azure ibex]

Bryjna's takes are very mid indeed

[outer saddle]

[uneven steeple]

how do you interpret the result

[neon niche]

the second row is your real MBTI result

[onyx vine]

Wait so I went from INTJ to INTP?

[uneven steeple]

LMAO

iFly has been converted

[neon niche]

the first row is socionics,
the third row uses the same method as 16personalities which means it doesn't take your function stacks into account
it isn't accurate, but is shown to you as a "bonus"

[onyx vine]

This server has done nothing but bring me down as a ningen

[uneven steeple]

wait how am I INFP according to 16personalities

that's not possible

i guess i have been turned into a feelsy person by the internet

[azure ibex]

join the club

INFP is fun

[uneven steeple]

i am secretly INFP but function as INTP

that is true fact

[outer saddle]

INTP is more fun.

[uneven steeple]

in fact i am internally stupid i just act like INTP

[neon niche]

INTP INFP teens from my perspective are quite the same annoying people
not as annoying as ENFP ENTP though

[uneven steeple]

wait so in the past karas you were taking the 3rd one as the result?

[neon niche]

i took the first one

[uneven steeple]

why is my NE 39 fuhuhu

[uneven steeple]

well then I am ENTP 💀

i challenge u to DEBATE!!!!!111!!!!111!!!

[neon niche]

"ENTP is F grade" - Paige (our typologist)

[tranquil heart]

who paige doe?

[neon niche]

Dove#2809
she hasn't been active lately

[neon niche]

https://personalityjunkie.com/10/extraverted-intuition-ne/

[uneven steeple]

funny how my NE is the highest by like 6 points and I'm an INTP

am I just that closeted LOL

[outer saddle]

Took me quite awhile to find it

Proof that I am cool. 😎

[uneven steeple]

oh there's more analysis?

since when

[uneven steeple]

LMAO

i'm the most edgy tho/j

[calm sable]

2nTOTAL

Is this normal INTJ behaviour? my god it was tough to read this💀

Jump

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#💜Personality (MBTI & Enneagram)

[tranquil heart]

This has to be satire 💀

[neon niche]

i dont think so..

[tranquil heart]

more muscular at just 17 years of age
Omg 💀

typical teenager INTJ 😔

[outer saddle]

Cringe…

[neon niche]

INTJ is known as the ultimate edgelord for a reason
INTP is mini-edgelord

[azure ibex]

He watched Joker once....

[outer saddle]

So I am a “mini-edgelord”?

[tranquil heart]

MBTI is best for the stereotypes

[azure ibex]

real

just kidding I am not sacrificing myself xD

[neon niche]

but mature INTJs are like Ethereal and Ibuki (in our server), and Stephen Hawkings
they are pretty cool

[neon niche]

i love MBTI stereotypes like this

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/05/b9/8d05b9d11558c6ffc1a7930c05bebd0a.jpg

💀

[tranquil heart]

I've been exposed on the internet

[azure ibex]

this is out of pocket

[azure ibex]

you seem like the type to play games on a library pc

[neon niche]

yeah

i won't doubt it if leppur has hacked into their school network

INTPs are good at finding loopholes and exploiting them

[tranquil heart]

nah we have competent system admins

[outer saddle]

I doubt I could…

💀

[tranquil heart]

one of my favorite pastimes

[azure ibex]

I am amazing at finding loopholes

[neon niche]

my INTP friend was extremely good at finding bugs in the MMO, he even became rich with that bug, but he regretted what he did because he got his friend banned instead although it was his fault

[cyan vapor]

LOL ahahaaaha

[neon niche]

this is why i cannot stand INTP sometimes
i will not do something that is immoral just because i can

[tranquil heart]

sometimes you just have to

[neon niche]

when? 🤔

[onyx vine]

You know too much

[cyan vapor]

hm.

[tranquil heart]

disable the javascript of some website so I can copy and paste text maybe? 🤔

they had some script so you couldn't select the text

[neon niche]

oh you mean this
i don't think it's immoral

information on the internet, once shown to you, should be downloadable by anyone because that's how the internet works

[azure ibex]

I mean if no one gets hurt

[cyan vapor]

may or may not have done something like that for a whole different purpose.

probably.

oh yeah, i was into ctfs a lot a while ago. looking one up now ig

[neon niche]

if you are doing something that hurt a large corporation or an authoritarian government, by all means, do it

[tranquil heart]

personally never tried ctf, but I have friends that have won competitions in ctf

they crazy 😤 frfr

[neon niche]

anyway i missed out on my drink last night so im gonna make a drink now brb

[cyan vapor]

best ive gotten is top 20 with barely any experience 😂 that was like my 5th

all thanks to the team... i suppose i could take some credit though

[uneven steeple]

our IT knows nothing but how to block things

[tranquil heart]

I mean, that's good enough tbh 😂

kinda sad mine also block vpns, but oh well 😔

[toxic granite]

What is better, to be born good or to overcome ones evil nature through effort?

[neon niche]

i dont think anyone is truly born good

but i believe if you are trying to be a better person, then your effort should be praised

i find people like this fascinating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdPMUX8_8Ms

he knows he is a harm to the society that's why he's doing what he can to stop himself

[tranquil heart]

uh oh

ok he was just relatable in the first minute, we safe bois

[solar bridge]

I'm proud of it 😤

[solar bridge]

Of course 🙄 Both Harvard and INFJs are overrated

[uneven steeple]

princeton feels very intp

[solar bridge]

According to Locke, nobody is born good or bad

[uneven steeple]

apparently intj is also popular at uchicago

twice as popular as the next type

bro

mit is intp

i didn't expect that at all did i

[solar bridge]

MIT, UC Berkeley, Stanford 😎

I can list so many INTP-like colleges

[uneven steeple]

no what

princeton is intj as well

[uneven steeple]

mit is intp, stanfrod is entp

kyoto university is entp

interestingly

[solar bridge]

Okay, well, Stanford is a college for braggarts and rich kids, so yeah, that makes sense /j

[uneven steeple]

lmao "k-12 education system" is isfj

which is nearly the opposite of me

utokyo is entj

darn it

[neon niche]

I used to be ISFJ

Before I came to the UK anyway

[solar bridge]

👀

I want to go to 東大 myself, hahaha

[neon niche]

that's surprising... or maybe not

a lot of these people became politicians

and guess what the most common type of politicians is
ENTJ

[toxic granite]

I dont trust the politician type

[neon niche]

ENTJ are extremely commanding and they are by far the most argumentative type

they are usually leaders

(who everyone hates)

[uneven steeple]

i remember the first time i took it i got entj

i didn't even know how

i'm the least entj person to ever entj

[neon niche]

well, our former mod was ENTJ and i definitely see it in him

he makes a debate out of everything

he even left the server because he disagreed with us, and he spent half an hour typing a message

[uneven steeple]

LMAO

[toxic granite]

This is true. I find my innermost intp also wanting to argue with people in agreement though. Like, "I agree with what you are saying, but disagree with the reasoning".
It's a pain in the ass.

[uneven steeple]

LMAO

that sounds like me everyday

[solar bridge]

Ah yes 🥹

[uneven steeple]

ohno its hiko

is this why we have such intense arguments over stravinsky and shostakovich

[toxic granite]

intps out of fuckin nowhere

No Stravinsky, only Shostakovich

[uneven steeple]

yes shostakovich

[toxic granite]

Shostakovich very yes

[uneven steeple]

hiko how does it feel playing the rich kid oboe

[toxic granite]

double reeds are bougie

[uneven steeple]

well actually it should be the opposite

oboes are more expensive than clarinets

[toxic granite]

Yes, the oboe is double reeded

And more expensive, thus, bougie

The most bougie brasswind is probably the French Horn.

[solar bridge]

Please stop.... 😭

Both are amazing composers, okay?

I'm trying to learn Stravinsky's Three Pieces for Solo Clarinet right now

Very challenging

[solar bridge]

I love it, I guess?

[solar bridge]

Depends on the oboe or clarinet in question

[uneven steeple]

generally

just like how i am generally smarter and more knowledgable than you /j

[solar bridge]

The most expensive oboe in the world is 14,000 dollars and the most expensive clarinet in the world is 35,755 dollars

[uneven steeple]

hiko's probably smarter actually 😭

[uneven steeple]

that's not much compared to the most expensive string instruments

[solar bridge]

I won't deny it

[solar bridge]

That's irrelevant

Stop teasing me for liking Stravinsky and Shostakovitch and playing the clarinet, I don't tease you for being a pianist and liking Chopin or whatever 😭

[uneven steeple]

found ur instrument

https://www.amazon.com/Click-Play-Clarinet-Colored-Metallic/dp/B016TR6AGK/ref=asc_df_B016TR6AGK/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241994149842&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=868234934254912893&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010766&hvtargid=pla-440453853089&psc=1

[uneven steeple]

lolll foine

[solar bridge]

[solar bridge]

Found yours: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Spark-Create-Imagine-Animal-Keyboard-Toy-Musical-Instrument-Puppy-Piano-24-Month-Child/554023453

/j

Truce

[uneven steeple]

ok

ceasefire

[solar bridge]

Because we are both valued members of the musical community and our instruments are equally important and worthy of respect and our taste in composers is equally valid 😤

[toxic granite]

Except Stravinsky. Rite of spring deservedly caused riots.

[solar bridge]

I like Rite of Spring, it's innovative and interesting

[toxic granite]

I'd have been mad too to spend money on the show 💀

[solar bridge]

Not easy to listen to, but it's cool

Not nice

But cool

There are some very cool-sounding moments

[toxic granite]

I will, however, give props to Frank Zappa

[stable anvil]

huh, I had no idea this was supposed to be an INTP thing

but... yeah, absolutely

I also get same-type attack bonus on that by virtue of being a Spaniard

which is funny, I used to be so obsessively rule-abiding as a child

nowadays, if there are no victims... I don't think it's that much of an issue

of course, I'm strict with the no-victims policy, but if I think I can benefit at no-one else's detriment... I'm probably going to at least give it some serious consideration

[stable anvil]

speaking of, here's what a TRPG has to say about my people

[stable anvil]

Damn, this short remark got me thinking for most of the day... I think that, for me, the only "morality" that really makes sense at the end of the day could be defined as something like "whatever keeps a properly-functioning system running without issues". For example, I don't consider myself a nothing personnel kid kind of edgelord, but I'm definitely edgier than what's acceptable in this server. But I understand that this is a huge server with hundreds of people from a lot of places, cultures, and walks of life; so what's "just on the line" for me could be way past the point of what's acceptable for a lot of other people. So, even if I could get away with it one way or another, I'd never think about walking that thin line because on one hand, I value more the integrity of the server than the short-term laugh I would've gotten, and on the other, I really wouldn't want to spoil this place for other people.

On the other end of things, I think breaking any rule that's arbitrary and results in no real harm to anyone (aside from yourself; I think everyone should have the right to be an idiot) is morally neutral. And breaking any rule that's actually making a system worse for its components is not only "not wrong", but also the only real "moral" choice.

that's it, thanks for coming to my TED talk

[toxic granite]

Without going to a place of "what are morals"
I think the phrasing Karas used is interesting. If I ask myself "can I do something immoral" then the answer is absolutely, I'm fully capable of it. I can rationalize it as a means to an end or for some greater purpose, but also, at the end of the day I could do things that were from that place of "because I can"
To consider that, the next question to myself is why don't I? I am very conflicted if my choice not to do things "because I can" is something that comes from a place in my heart or in my head. Is a good person that way because that's just how they are, is it solely a conscious choice, or is it something else, like a selfish pursuit of personal integrity?

[stable anvil]

hm, I can definitely do something that most people find immoral with no hint of remorse; but if I do something that I myself find immoral, it's almost 100% because I didn't think it through

and it's going to haunt me for the rest of my life

I'm still thinking on a regular basis on reprehensible stuff I did when I was 10, for crying out loud

[toxic granite]

Then, your conscience is a deterrent, from a personal place, that gives you a moral compass

[stable anvil]

guess you could put it that way

[toxic granite]

Remove what most people find moral or immoral, and internally think, can you do something that you think is wrong, and not feel bad

Any external person can say you did something immoral, and if you don't care, that means nothing
To be able to go against your internal moral compass without remorse?

[stable anvil]

hmmm, probably only if pushed by extreme circumstances

I would never say I would never, because there were tons of regular joes involved in the worst atrocities known to man

likewise, once it becomes a matter of life and death, all morality flies out the window for most people, and I don't know if I'd be different

probably not

[toxic granite]

I don't think it's that grand, just being vindictive when saying hello to a neighbor on a daily basis is enough to raise that question. Outside of larger philosophy, or lofty concepts of karmic justice and all that jazz;

Can I do things solely for the reason that it is within my power to do them? Yes.

Do I do things solely for the reason they are within my power to do? No, but I don't have a clear answer as to why that is.

[stable anvil]

hmmm, but then it goes back to the point of what "you yourself" think is wrong

I don't think being a POS every now and again with someone who wronged you is necessarily immoral

it's pointless most of the time, sure, but that doesn't make it wrong

even if other people call you out for it

[toxic granite]

That's still creating an analysis of our own comparative morality. Not to ask the question is "x" right or wrong, or any if/then statements.
Removed from outside beliefs, I find myself able to do anything within my power, in accordance with or against my personal stance, but I don't. I think the more interesting question is why I don't, what internally is the thing that prevents me from doing anything on a whim

[stable anvil]

hm, maybe evolution if we want to go there

humans are pretty bad at living on their own, some people even argue that we're eusocial, like ants or bees

[vernal zephyr]

I don't think you can attribute morality to evolution. Our concept of morality varies too wildly over the past 2-5 thousand years for it to be evolutionary driven.

[stable anvil]

not entirely

but maybe partly

the golden rule seems universal

[toxic granite]

Okay
You see someone drop 5 dollars. You can pick up the 5 dollars, and keep it or say, hey, you dropped 5 dollars. No one is dying, in directly conflict, or any of that. You passively have a chance to keep something someone lost.

For added spice, let's say you are granted the ability to see into alternative realities, and you 100% know that this person would keep your 5 in this situation.

[stable anvil]

lol, nice spice

I don't think I would

hard to say without being put in the spot, but still

a different thing entirely is something I know nobody cares about

but money? no

[toxic granite]

I'm just saying, I could do either here, despite knowing the "right" thing is to return it.

[stable anvil]

hm, I guess I wouldn't judge you

[toxic granite]

It's not the point

[stable anvil]

for me... I'm just reminded of cases I were put in a similar spot, and seeing how I reacted

[vernal zephyr]

The golden rule may appear to be universal, but that's mostly because of Christianity's influence over global culture. All of Western Civilization has Christianity as it's moral foundation. If you look at pre-Christianity era civilizations or civilizations with very little Christian influence, you don't see the golden rule.

You see more of a "might makes right" moral foundation. Which we still see a lot of in the world today.

[toxic granite]

I'm literally just saying I liked the question of "INTPs able to do immoral things simply because we could, in theory, do them" not discussing what morals are and the social application

[stable anvil]

lol, you put up an interesting argument and there's no way I would just stop there

[stable anvil]

hm, that's a good take, I guess you're right from that perspective

[toxic granite]

I think this is extremely narrow when you look at codified justice, might did not make right in every case by law all the way back to Hammurabi

[vernal zephyr]

Actually, I would say that in almost all institutions, current and past, "Might makes right" is the rule and not the exception.

[stable anvil]

hm, but it is true that social cohesion was invariably imposed rather than negotiated

that's the general pattern in bronze age civilizations

[vernal zephyr]

If an organization does not have the ability to enforce it's rules, then it will very quickly no longer be an organization.

So then the question is how do you enforce your rules.

Historically, and presently, it's institutional power.

[stable anvil]

there is just no way to oppose that

[toxic granite]

A moral is something we all generally agree on, and comes from things like sympathy and empathy.
The golden rule is an example of reciprocity, and is way older than Christian teachings

[vernal zephyr]

You can say that, but just because Calculus has existed since the dawn of time doesn't mean that we didn't have to discover and codify it.

[toxic granite]

The ancient Egyptians weren't paraphrasing newton 2000 years in advance

[stable anvil]

hmmm, although at any rate, I wouldn't be so sure about giving Christianity so much of the merit

it's something that can emerge independently

and it probably did

[toxic granite]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule

[stable anvil]

(short aside: I'm enjoying every single bit of this conversation, thanks a lot guys)

[vernal zephyr]

That's not actually the golden rule.

The image, not the link.

Wait...

Maybe the font is messing with my vision.

[toxic granite]

I think it is

[stable anvil]

it is

[vernal zephyr]

And the old english style.

[tranquil heart]

"do thing, thing happens to you"
golden rule

[vernal zephyr]

OK, I'm convinced that it's correct.

That was a mind bender.

[stable anvil]

put that on a T-shirt

[toxic granite]

Reciprocity is a social pillar in basically all cultures

From all times

[vernal zephyr]

eh...

[stable anvil]

is it? or is it survivor's fallacy?

I'm not so sure anymore

[vernal zephyr]

Kind of. But was it posited as a universal good?

Or was it just something that happened because it has to for a society to function?

[toxic granite]

It doesn't matter if it's unilaterally applied the same way, it's conceptually found in some form

It's identifiable

[vernal zephyr]

I'm generally not convinced, however, I have ping pong now. I'll return in an hour to see how the discussion has progressed.

😄

[stable anvil]

lol, have fun

hmmm

[toxic granite]

That's your prerogative

[stable anvil]

al things considered, I guess what would be a new invention is carrying out the golden rule outside of one's immediate community

a small tribe without something like that it's just going to collapse in no time

but society-wise? or even extending it to the entirety of humanity

that's probably more recent

[toxic granite]

If you consider morals as things which stem from empathy or sympathy, we observe "morality" in some animals, including rats, when faced with negative stimuli to other rats for rewards. Studies with infants have shown a predisposed positive response to "helpful" characters or figures over "antagonistic" ones as well.

And, a big part of morality is social reinforcement of values through norms, the different levels of socially acceptable behaviors, and the tools people use to keep a society going. Outside of formal organizations, with no legit legal or government authority, there is still the social contract that is expected that people follow. The consequences of not following it are simple, being ostracized as a member of the group.

[stable anvil]

hm, but that's what I would argue, it's a feature of social animals within the confines of one's group

the leading cause of death for wolves in Yellowstone is inter-group encounters

and wolves are pretty damn social

what I'm thinking here is that extending that kindness to unknown people may not be absolutely universal

[toxic granite]

I mean
I'm not surprised, there's a social order, and for that area, they are pretty top of the food chain?

[stable anvil]

as far as up the food chain as it gets, yeah

but my point is about extending that empathy towards any other

that could very well be cultural

[toxic granite]

We don't, but that's a product of society. We see outside members of a group different, and judge them as separate. It's important to look at concepts of morality not from a personal position, but the generally accepted consensus.

[stable anvil]

I would argue in-group/out-group mentality is older than society as we know it

[toxic granite]

It is, easily

[stable anvil]

and what's new is that the in-group keeps getting bigger

I mean, it's always hard to figure out what was actually done before reliable written records, but I woudn't be surprised if the normal was to disregard the people from outside your community as some other that would be ok to, say, steal from

and as societies develop, the in-group just keeps getting bigger

[toxic granite]

This is literally all of human history

[stable anvil]

but that's the thing, nowadays we're starting to extend that kindness to all of humanity

I mean, quotation marks there

but we're slowly starting to think of ourselves in a species-wide way

[toxic granite]

There are sub groups in England that are 20 miles apart and describe the others ancestors as subhuman
Were their ancestors less moral than people today, no, but they didn't have a concept that other groups also get the same ethical considerations. It wasn't a huge deal for 90% of human history when you met like 500 people over your entire life, instead of in one night like now.

These are learned behaviors, that we teach ourselves.

[stable anvil]

oh, no, I'm not arguing that we're any more moral now

jesus, perish the thought

[toxic granite]

Not more or less, the same.

[stable anvil]

most definitely

I was just pondering about how and why we got here, and how we kind of take it for granted

[stable anvil]

I think you hit the nail on the head with this, though

I'd say it's part because we're starting to need to work as a global unit, and part because we can connect with people from all over the world with ease

if the other is next to you and can interact with you on a daily basis, then it isn't an other anymore

either way, as I said before, thanks a lot for the conversation! I really like to talk about things like this, but I usually end up tiring and boring my conversation partners to no end

my mother once famously said "the problem is that you're as intense as you're tiring"

I decided to take it as a compliment

[toxic granite]

Lol
I have had people refer to me a good person a few times, I usually say "No, weak morals but strong principles"

[solar bridge]

We wouldn't unless it's absolutely necessary

[neon niche]

an immature INTP definitely will exploit loopholes

afterall "what are morals"?

[tranquil heart]

hindrances /s

[stable anvil]

well, as a child I was definitely way more straitlaced than I am right now

any sort of rule could as well be taken as the word of god

[solar bridge]

Immature, maybe

I mean, loopholes exist to be expolited

But that doesn't always make us immoral...

You INFJs and your overtly judgmental and generalized assessments of other personality types with the sole intent of establishing your "superiority" as an MBTI type 🙄 /j

/J

[neon niche]

what can i say, my first impression of other people is usually accurate

[solar bridge]

BEFORE YOU EXPLODE, I said /J

usually
Not good enough

[stable anvil]

you already closed that tag, the code is not going to compile

smh

[solar bridge]

Oh well

[neon niche]

still better than 99% of people here

[solar bridge]

99
Where's the other 1%?

/j

[neon niche]

people who haven't talked, or don't talk often

[solar bridge]

💀

[tranquil heart]

I wonder how many in this server actually read the rules 😔
makes me feel like a nerd for doing the bare minimum 😂

[stable anvil]

I admit that I did what I do with any other manual: gave it a quick scan, said to myself "well, that makes sense" and just imagined I'd figure out the rest on my own

[tranquil heart]

oof feel that too, read one article on some japanese grammar and just quit halfway through 😂

[azure ibex]

Yes I hype myself up...
"I'm gonna re-read of the grammar rules I've forgotten!"
then end up quitting 5 minutes in

[stable anvil]

lol, I don't put that in the same boat, for me that kind of stuff can go one of two ways

1. it takes me several days to read the whole thing
2. as soon as I come to, I realize that I read that article and 5 more

no in between

[azure ibex]

2. ..
   of course after realizing that you've been procrastinating

[stable anvil]

it's not technically procrastinating if you procrastinate into something useful

speedrunner strats

[azure ibex]

[coarse abyss]

leppur this is random but your little comments always crack me up LOL

[solar bridge]

I mean, he had a point /j 😂

[tardy imp]

So how many more INTPS have we gathered

[neon niche]

lol

no one knows, we have so many new members

btw, your result here is ENFP
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1020743568450670795/1036479071695163392/IMG_0947.png

[wise wind]

Its an army at this point ahahaha, interesting to see though

[tardy imp]

Oh what in the world ?

Where did that come from ?

[dim oak]

I was just thinking where are the ENFPs and ESFJs and ESFPs

And I find this

[neon niche]

E people aren't that common on discord anyway...

[neon niche]

the second row is your result

[tardy imp]

Ahh, i see

Wow, good thing i checked this channel again though it seems to be putting me in an identity crisis lol

[dim oak]

I would want to befriend an ESFJ so we could gossip with each other

[neon niche]

it's not like MBTI determines your personality, it's the other way round

[tardy imp]

True ! But i feel like that specific test is the most accurate, compared to the 16personalities one

[finite oriole]

I'm wondering where the ISTJs are

Only other one I've ever found was Paige

Maybe we're too busy being corporate/uni slaves 🥹

[neon niche]

wow, sakae using this emoji, what is this?

[finite oriole]

Hey crowcrow~ ^^

[neon niche]

TGP is ISTJ

[dim oak]

The next trimester I'm going to become a uni slave unfortunately

[tardy imp]

What is ISTJ ?

[dim oak]

The student council vice president 😔

[neon niche]

how do we explain this in one message lol?

[tardy imp]

I mean, what is their title

[finite oriole]

Influenced by repeated contact with expressive people online :')

[tardy imp]

Hahaha

[tranquil heart]

I thought he was INTP 😔

[neon niche]

it's the most common personality type in male

[finite oriole]

Oh dear...

I already am huhu

[tardy imp]

Like, the entrepreneur, the architect

[dim oak]

It's in our blood xSTJs to work hard and be productive

[finite oriole]

Logistician iirc

[finite oriole]

Yezz

And Discord is the winding down area

[finite oriole]

Also is he? I didn't know that

[tardy imp]

Ahh, wait, isn’t that INTP ?

[dim oak]

Also Oh dear father in heaven please don't put any ESFJs or INTJs or ENTJs or ENTPs or ESFPs in the studnet council

[finite oriole]

Could've sworn he was different

[tardy imp]

Wait i definitely got the two mixed up

[finite oriole]

That's Logician hahah

The names are deceptively similar

[tardy imp]

Logician and Logistician haha God that’s confusing

[neon niche]

why not just say ISTJ

[tardy imp]

Easier for sure i just like remembering the descriptive word for them

[neon niche]

ESTJ dissing ENTJ wow

[finite oriole]

Same heree

[dim oak]

It's because they wouldn't be my superiors but my subordinates

[neon niche]

wut

[dim oak]

The president isn't an ENTJ

[finite oriole]

Weirdly enough some of my best friends are INTJs and ENTJs lol

I like being intimidated I mean what

[dim oak]

I also like them

[tardy imp]

Help

[dim oak]

But I don't want to have a headache

[tardy imp]

They’re fun but a little TOO fun

[neon niche]

ah, no wonder
when it comes to oratory skills and logic, ESTJ can't beat ENTJ

[dim oak]

If they were against doing something I'd have the worst headache in my life

[tardy imp]

[dim oak]

Not really

[finite oriole]

Life has just been one perpetual headache after another

So might as well make it excitinggg 🤩

[dim oak]

An ESTJ is almost the same as an ENTJ

[neon niche]

definitely not

i cannot imagine a ESTJ becoming a politician
they can but they won't be the leader of a country

[tardy imp]

Do you think that because its only a one letter difference ?

[dim oak]

No

[tardy imp]

Or just experience

[neon niche]

there is a HUGE difference between ESTJ and ENTJ when it comes to debating skill, and the way ENTJ present their argument

[dim oak]

And here comes the 30 year old INFJ debater

I swear someday I'm going to defeat you

[neon niche]

i am not a debater

if you want to argue i will go away

[finite oriole]

Yez you're a yummy fish ball

[tardy imp]

[finite oriole]

[tardy imp]

A fishball, a salmon, and a tsunami

How fitting

[finite oriole]

That sounds like the setup for a dad joke lol

[tardy imp]

Lolll

[finite oriole]

A fish ball, a salmon, and a tsunami walk into a bar

[tardy imp]

[dim oak]

I've never seen an ENTJ debate before so I cannot comment on that, but I've read that the difference between ESTJs and ENTJs is that ESTJs are suited for short plans and focusing on the details while ENTJs are long planners with visions

[neon niche]

ENTJ are good leaders

ESTJ want to be leaders but whether they are good or not is up to debate

[tranquil heart]

But since when was TGP ISTJ?

[neon niche]

one thing i can say is that ESTJs are usually hated for their commanding personality

[tardy imp]

Yeesh

[neon niche]

i rechecked his result

[dim oak]

I'm not commanding

At least I don't think I am

[neon niche]

says you...

[tardy imp]

Maybe it shows when you need to be ?

[dim oak]

Well to be honest

Nevermind

[past glacier]

I want to have a strong enneagram 😔
So I can become an ENFP with a certain wing OR an INFP with a certain wing
But, now I am both and stuck

[dim oak]

I still don't know my enneagram

[stable anvil]

the enneagram test gave up on me, it gave me something like 4&5(tie)w1, but with low accuracy

I didn't screencap it, but I recall that from the graph the only thing that could be said with any certainty is that I'm not a 9

[past glacier]

I get a different result everytime I take enneagram test

💀

[neon niche]

It means you don't know yourself enough

Also it seems interesting to me that people say they get a different MBTI result every time they do the test but I've always got INFJ for the last 5 years

[past glacier]

please stay the same, don't INTJ 🥹

[toxic granite]

I only ever get one other result from INTP and it's INTJ, but it's usually been P.

[tardy imp]

Solid Karas moment

[finite oriole]

unwavering and unchanging

[tardy imp]

Over the years i’ve gotten INFP, ESFP, ENTP, ISFJ, ENFJ, and more recently INTP

[past glacier]

I have gotten ENFP, INFP, ESFP, ESFJ and ENFJ

[tardy imp]

Lots of E !

[stable anvil]

lol, I also got INTP when I did it with 16 personalities years ago

no surprises there

[finite oriole]

been stuck on ISTJ for many many years huu

no matter how shit or how detailed the test is

[neon niche]

I'm still between INFJ and INTJ anyway

[dim oak]

The only different results I got was ESFP

[wise wind]

Woah, thats interesting 👀. Ud be another cool intj like ethereal then if your personality changed like that

[solar bridge]

I've gotten INTP, ENTP, and INFP

Makes sense

[tardy imp]

Real

[neon niche]

titanic in a nutshell

hmm or maybe terminator

nvm, sarah connor was ISFJ then ISTP in the sequel

i still feel that most female protagonists are ISFJ though

they need the tough will to survive

ISFP people will just cry cry cry and get nothing done

[neon niche]

Hm come to think of it I guess the female protagonists of rom com films are mostly ISFP

[coarse abyss]

lol please, actually getting things done? what’s that? no, I’ll be in my room speculating the meaning of my existence and having imagined arguments with myself. thanks

oh btw, I’ve had this question about MBTI
with the way function stacks works, how does P/J affect the personality 🤔 like when you look at each separate letter on their own, P/J is usually about how you manage your time and yourself (broadly speaking)

but when you look at function stacks, that’s not quite the case(?)

[neon niche]

Hmm let's say the way 16personalities say you are XX% J, XX% P is inaccurate because the letters can't stand on their own

[coarse abyss]

ah okay, that makes sense

[neon niche]

16p is so misleading omg

[coarse abyss]

for that, it’s such a long test 💀

[solar bridge]

STAHP

[solar bridge]

Leave us alone 😭

[neon niche]

💀

[solar bridge]

😔

I think I've only found one or two cases where it actually accurately predicted someone's personality

As in, what it came up with was a very close fit

[toxic granite]

Every INTP ever, almost all the time

[solar bridge]

We just want to think in peace

[coarse abyss]

16personalities always matches my results, it just matches it for the wrong reasons I feel lol
especially introversion

“Do you easily make friends” well, no, but that’s irrelevant

I could be an introvert and easily make friends, who knows bro 🤓

[solar bridge]

I made my friend take it last week. She got ENFP and while she was scrolling through the description, all I heard her say over and over again was "this is so true"

[solar bridge]

sigh 😮‍💨

[solar bridge]

Case in point: me 💀

[tranquil heart]

Don't you know Introverts are absolute loners with no social skills and extroverts can only function if there are 500 people near them?

[solar bridge]

Okay, well, not really

I don't make friends that easily

[finite oriole]

16p be like
"do you have no friends and struggle to utter a single word in daily life? ok then you're introvert"
"do you do lines of cocaine every night at the club while drinking with randos? extrovert for you"

[coarse abyss]

Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot about that! 😔
Let me go seclude myself in my room again so that I can breathe!

[coarse abyss]

LMFAOO

can you hit up a girl and marry her the same day? ayo you an extrovert my g

[tranquil heart]

"Are you happy?"
Yes: extrovert
No: introvert

[neon niche]

i burst out laughing

oh shit the bot doesn't support forum yet

[tranquil heart]

I don't mind 😀