#Negative Karma & Jetina Armor
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Hi fellow adventurer!
Technicly "yes" but jetina gear get deactivated when you go red so it doesnt count in your stats anymore - but it can downgrade
Be sure to have crystals on to protect you and try parking an alt character at Polly’s so you can grind karma back in case of emergencies!
What do you mean by deactivated?
When you are red you can no longer equip your jetina, I thought it was only before it became PEN but it’s been so long I no longer remember off hand
My muskan boots are jetina and Im red
i recommend to get a set of questgear also obsidian weapon from mainquest - with that you can reach enough AP to grind in Polly or pila ku for karma - with family fame - just make an old for that 2 spots so you can just swap char there and cant loose any gear bcs questgear doesnt have enhancement level
Don’t die without crystals
bad timing of fritzbox making update sorry
I dont mind being red
actually i also dont know if tet jetina also get disabled or not
My question is whether my Pen muskan boots which are jetina will delevel if I die from a mob
but like Lady said dont die without crystals bcs you can loose enhancement level and that not only from one item
You only lose enhancement levels if you die from mobs
TET does because I went red and couldn’t equip any of my jetina TET gear…that was a scary experience as a new player lol
i'm to old for having jetina gear 
I know the repercussions of going red
Im specifically asking whether a jetina pen can downgrade
Yes it can
you cant
How are you sure this is the case?
bcs the jetina stuff is done for reform level and that is once per gear slot - and when you try to enhance on normal way you get there a stone shown that give the info in the description that this item cant be enhance
Ok but how are you sure a jetina pen can downgrade
bcs i saw that this happend already to player
It doesnt make sense why they would make it so that it can downgrade but then you cant even enhance it back
thats the info i have - if you want more info you can write a ticket - but normally you should be not able to equip it to prevent the downgrade
I guess I'll make a ticket to get confirmation
we are also just player it can be that i might miss some patch i mean the gear is already 2 years old and i'm also just a human that can miss something
would be nice if you could update me if i'm wrong 
Im gonna make a ticket on the website
ur not wrong its happened before it goes back to tet jeyina and has to reform stone again although the question then becomes if u dont have a jetina quest to do again it will not go pen again
say you have already done 3 weapon quests etc
i mean its not anymore reformeble - but i mean i can be wrong
ive seen their jetinas downgrade from pen to tet and be stuck to reform stones again but what i havent seen is once they have used up all their quests on weapons to reform 5
and it happens
this is why they deactivated it
cause it happened on day 1
when jetina came out
someone downgraded tet jetina to tri jetina
and it was impossible to get back to tet jetina
the tldr is though it shouldnt be possible to downgrade anymore
since as soon as you go red the gear completely goes to a unwearable state
so as you stated
it was possible first week or two in jetina before they realised people were dumb going red and then downgrading jetina making it impossible to enhance again xD
Got to say I really love the how that is written as a whole, even though it sucks that the gear will be stuck if it downgrades.
Gotta love the role play in BDO, it’s great!!
so nothing changed so i'm right - thx for the information
yw
We tested it back when jetina got released.
We degraded a pen jetina to tet and a tet to tri.
There was no way of enchanting it back. (I can not say if it might have changed over time but to my knowledge it did not)
But then they changed it, that also tet can not be equiped anymore while negative karma (pen can be equiped)
Even after downgrading.
So... it is stuck on tet, because you can not equip it to degrade it anyway.
Overall the rest of the infos given here are mostly right.
It can degrade, tet can not be equiped.
Pen can always be equiped
There is no way to pen it again
Why would they design it like that
Probably to stop people from using safe decent gear to go red
And force you to risk it for the biscuit
Overall pa's gear logic was always simple.
"Not degradeable = not equipable for reds"
(Exept for base fallen god and god-ayed)
But this jetina was a super random, useless confusing thing. Mostly because the non jetina or the pen tuvala version works fine.
Except gear only downgrades to PvE not PvP
Yeah. That’s why people feed players to mobs
Which is why you run a trash crystal set if someone is trying to feed you
So turns out you can pen back Jetina items if they downgrade
My c20 kzarka was a jetina pen and it downgraded to a tet c20 and I can enhance it back to pen
So yall were wrong
@sleek lagoon
and why just i get pinged

bnut i hope you didnt enhance it with the Caphras on it
You told me to let you know if you were wrong
bruh
i would not do that
poor caphra
Im not
very very interesting. Never managed to test it with a degrade back then.
Will add this to the guide thanks ^^
can u show in the screenshot pls that it is a jetina item (its visible on the item text) @earnest dragon
It doesnt say its a jetina item anymore
But my pen kutum that was jetina says the same thing as my tet kzarka c20 that downgraded from a jetina kzarka c20
very interesting. will have to test this ^^ thanks
Can you MP it? 👀
Nope
it CAN downgrade, and it CANNOT be reenhanced. it has been tested
Mine did downgrade and I can enhance it.
tbf muiquun tested it the week they made they them ubavalible on tet for neg karma and it was not possible to re-enchant.
but alot of things got changed overtime.
so the testing should be re-done. sadly i currently dont have the recorces for that
I can test it but I'd rather just sell the caphras
I have the ability to Pen I just havent clicked either one
And they were both jetina
Negative Karma & Jetina Armor
good change
Also when it downgrades now it doesn’t go back to a Jetina tet. It shows up as the screenshot I posted above