#Rice vs Vassar

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calm spade
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Schools: Rice, Vassar (transfer from Vassar to Rice)
Intended major: Economics
Similarities: Small schools with an emphasis on professor-student interaction. Residential college systems.
Costs: ~equal for my family

Name of School 1: Vassar
Pros

  • already established here - everyone I know is here, all my career connections were made through Vassar, a fair part of my resume comprises club exec positions here
  • the only connection I have who has actually managed to help me get so much as an interview is in Poughkeepsie
  • would be leading majorish project on immigration clinics next fall
  • sharp grade inflation, generous conditional pass/fail policy.
  • can go abroad junior spring
  • open curriculum
  • I like the winters

Cons

  • horrible horrible horrible horrible student culture. impossible to describe
  • ridiculous turnover in the economics department
  • very poor returns on investment

Name of School 2: Rice
Pros

  • more resources - more research + more research positions
  • greater diversity of classes + more flexibility in terms of number of classes I can take
  • not an extreme difference (as far as I know) in terms of academic support from professors, general accessibility of professors
  • in-house think tank!
  • not as far from home (California)

Cons

  • grade deflation
  • maybe a worse culture in their math department (ie. at Vassar there aren't many people who went through the olympiad, etc, circuit, and so culture is more approachable + collaborative; maybe not true at Rice)
  • not sure how prerequisites for some courses will work
  • would have to drop French major
  • harder to get involved in off-campus community work (it's really easy to get ie. internships at obscure nonprofits/foundations/social agencies in Poughkeepsie; probably much less true in Houston)
  • harder to get involved in student life
  • it's in Texas

Tiebreaking considerations
How "olympiad"ish is the math department culture at Rice? Is there really a "culture of care" there?

topaz ridge
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id certainly pick vassar for you if it weren’t for those cons you provided.
from what i found (not a rice student, sorry), rice has the rigor of an elite school, but it’s actually pretty supportive through the peers and professors. has smaller class sizes (compared to physics) and social and emotional support within academics
id pick rice if those other cons (grade deflation, texas climate, dropping french) don’t outweigh the pros of rice

tough locust
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I don't think Rice math is olympiad-core, but it is advanced. Luckily they have a flexible BA in math.

Do you want to go to grad school for Econ?

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Because if so, I would go to Rice

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Is Vassar math Olympiad-core and gatekeepy?