Finance Guy Junior Needs Help | ApplyingToCollege | Page 1

mental hare Jan 19, 2026, 11:03 PM

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Location/Region: Anywhere in the US I just wanna make sure the job opps are near NYC

Major: Finance/Econ/Bus (anything that finance roles require)

GPA/Test Scores: 4.0/34 ACT

Curriculum: Northing specific

Size: Not too large where finding a job is hard like anything more than like cornell is too much expect like UMich or crazy good schools

Costs: Everything works fortunately just need to make sure career ops at the end are more than tuiton/cost

Schools You're Currently Looking At: Wharton, Princeton, Yale, Duke, UMich, UT Austin, Brown, Cornell, Harvard, COlumbia, Georgetown, UNC

Additional: I wanna do IB/PE high finance role after college so something that can achieve that and I am not sure what school I can get into so if someone could help see that would be great

glad latch Jan 19, 2026, 11:06 PM

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Georgetown is one of the top schools for IB

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Have you thought about NYU Stern??

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What are you looking at for instate publics?

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Lots of state flagships like IU, UC, UMich etc have good business programs, also UMass to some extent

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I think you could look into expanding your safety list in particular

candid shale Jan 19, 2026, 11:28 PM

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Fordham, Baruch, IU, Binghamton, Boston College, Lehigh (4+- in financial engineering). Penn State, TAMU, UGA, UF, UW Madison, Wks Forest

forest snow Jan 20, 2026, 12:01 AM

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@cosmic dome IB/PE kid this is ur thing to help with

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 12:14 AM

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mental hare Location/Region: Anywhere in the US I just wanna make sure the job opps are near...

idk seems a bit reachy i would need to see your ECs

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 12:14 AM

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glad latch Lots of state flagships like IU, UC, UMich etc have good business programs, also...

no they r terrible for IB/PE in nyc

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umich is good though

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and berkeley

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IU sucks butt

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 12:15 AM

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oh i thought iu kelley was a good school oops

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 12:15 AM

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its okay

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not for ib

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u need to get into ibw

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which is hard and isnt guarenteed so its not worth it

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 12:17 AM

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mental hare Location/Region: Anywhere in the US I just wanna make sure the job opps are near...

if your ggoing to look at cornell and brown i would take a look into the other ivies, all are solid options additionally i would look into berkeley, UNC is more of a semi target then anything so its kind of out of place here, same w/ UT Austin

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UChicago is also excellent

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:10 AM

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so basically my in-state in NY/NJ/CT and my only safety is the top instate school for my state

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and theres a reason for that but my logic is I either go to a feeder IB school or my in-state and save monoey nothing in-between like IU or UIUC

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:11 AM

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glad latch Have you thought about NYU Stern??

I have but heard of thr sweaty culture and bad school spirit im tryna enjoy college life lol

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:12 AM

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cosmic dome UChicago is also excellent

was gonna ed or ed2 but the culture is bad and I heard all my friends say ppl are chopped which idrc but apparently its not fun

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:12 AM

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mental hare so basically my in-state in NY/NJ/CT and my only safety is the top instate schoo...

are you a CT resident?

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:13 AM

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glad latch are you a CT resident?

nah

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:13 AM

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oh rip

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:13 AM

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u @ gtown?

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:13 AM

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not committed yet

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but yeah

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public policy major

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:13 AM

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is ea boost over rd?

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thats good major

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for gtown

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:14 AM

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mental hare is ea boost over rd?

no it’s actually a lower AR but you can’t get rejected, only deferred

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:14 AM

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mental hare was gonna ed or ed2 but the culture is bad and I heard all my friends say ppl ar...

the culture is fine just more grindy

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its exxagerated a bit

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:14 AM

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mental hare thats good major

not as good as IB @ gtown

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:14 AM

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stern is really toxic though even for a b school

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:14 AM

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if you want to get ahead in ib you will have to grind lol

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:14 AM

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glad latch not as good as IB @ gtown

yeah IB is great but I heard limited to the clubs

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which is super comp

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like the GUSIF

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:14 AM

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u dont need to rely on clubs

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although they do make it easier

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:15 AM

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to be honest i don’t know all that much but i doubt that’s true

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:16 AM

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my ecs keeping it bland are : officer at 20k raised npofounding member lots of impact here, CEO (not founder) of my niche interest podcast we impacted like 9000 ppl (we have courses too), co-founder of app same niche partnered with like 5 unis

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research at ivy (prof promising me a publication hopefully before college), RA at another ivy (lowk did nothing), research at local uni maybe get published but been here for a good bit of time

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and the rest is js presidents of clubs at school

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:17 AM

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cosmic dome idk seems a bit reachy i would need to see your ECs

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cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:17 AM

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eh

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still kind of reachy

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research is good and your npo is nice but i dont really see the fin spike

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:18 AM

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what do you think I can do

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:18 AM

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id do something directly related, internships, a competition, founding a club with actual impact

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you clearly show your academically strong enough via ur research

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:18 AM

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look for impact

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:18 AM

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cosmic dome id do something directly related, internships, a competition, founding a club wi...

the niche is finance

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:18 AM

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get involved with your actual community

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:19 AM

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like something niche in finance the npo, app, and pod

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:19 AM

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ehhh

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like wdym

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:19 AM

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like financial literacy stuff

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:19 AM

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yeah thats super cliche

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everyone does that i wont lie to you it wont make you stand out

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:19 AM

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dont just engage nunbers on the internet, aos like to see you engaging with the people around you IRL

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:20 AM

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cosmic dome everyone does that i wont lie to you it wont make you stand out

this is a little harsh imo but nowadays everyone is researching and doing NPOs

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so i agree

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:20 AM

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I founded investment club if that means anything

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:20 AM

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he has impact via his ngo

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depends on what u did w/ it

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btw

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for the podcast

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:20 AM

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cosmic dome he has impact via his ngo

20k raised for what tho

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:20 AM

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raised 20k

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:20 AM

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when u say impacted 9k

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is that viewers?

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subscribers?

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:20 AM

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nah

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9k courses downloaded

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from Udemy

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:20 AM

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alr

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yeah thats pretty good then

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:21 AM

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what u think is a good ED

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:21 AM

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i will say though

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:21 AM

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wharton

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:21 AM

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be careful w/ that when u explain it to the schools

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u dont want to sound like you already know everything

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and r selling courses etc

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frame it humbly

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:21 AM

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alr its free the courses

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wharton too comp bro

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:22 AM

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they also prefer more pre professional

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:22 AM

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kids be wayy too sweaty also does going to a feeder HS matter?

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:22 AM

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his is more academic

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:22 AM

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mental hare kids be wayy too sweaty also does going to a feeder HS matter?

yes

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:22 AM

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alr I go to a t100 HS

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like 150ish

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:22 AM

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doesnt neccessarily mean its a feeder

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:22 AM

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cosmic dome his is more academic

seems preprofessional to me

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:22 AM

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mental hare like 150ish

this does not matter

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:22 AM

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glad latch seems preprofessional to me

not really

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:22 AM

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I have VC internship

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my HS sends like 20% to ivy

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:23 AM

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ok

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so its a feeder

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:23 AM

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k

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:23 AM

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what % r u in the class

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:23 AM

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2%

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maybe

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:23 AM

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top 2?

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:23 AM

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yea

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:23 AM

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pretty good

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it helps then

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i would maybe aim for a 35+ on the act

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:23 AM

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how though does like the AO know the school

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:23 AM

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i think you should branch out on your ECs a little bit

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schools that are holistic like harvard stanford yale gtown, brown also especially

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like to see range

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:24 AM

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mental hare how though does like the AO know the school

ur school is more respected in the way that the quality of top students from ur school are more trusted by the institution to succeed in their school vs other public hs

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:24 AM

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mental hare how though does like the AO know the school

each ao is assigned a region

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and they know ur school context

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and in ur case likely have a relationship with the counselor

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:24 AM

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hmm

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:24 AM

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@mental hare

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:24 AM

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so about the ED

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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whats ur region

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if u dont mind me asking

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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is duke good?

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NY

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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nyc ny?

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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cosmic dome ur school is more respected in the way that the quality of top students from ur ...

dude definitely goes to private btw

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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NYC

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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oh

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wow

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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public

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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magnet?

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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yeah maybe dont ed wharton

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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yea

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what about Duke?

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:25 AM

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u dont have to ED

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duke is good

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but personally i wouldnt bind myself to duke for IB specifically

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if u like duke though

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go for it

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:26 AM

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is it not good for IB>

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:26 AM

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it is

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:26 AM

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i did not ED and i think that was a great choice

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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cosmic dome it is

ur in college right?

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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you can EA your instate publics, Umich, UT austin, georgetown, UNC etc

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so a lot of different choices EA

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also takes the burden off of your RD applications

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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mental hare ur in college right?

i graduated lol

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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ivy?

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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which lets them be higher queality

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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wharton

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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say ong

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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ong

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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bro what

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ur in IB>

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?

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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i did a year already yeah

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GS

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:27 AM

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holy

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fkc

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:28 AM

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thats why i got mentioned here lmao

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:28 AM

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lol

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so you think I got a chance

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:28 AM

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of course

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:28 AM

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at Duke or Wharton im tryna max my chances

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:28 AM

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duke fs

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wharton is super comp in nyc

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:28 AM

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no one ever has a "chance" at wharton bro

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:28 AM

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most of the people ik from nyc had like 3+ bb internships

glad latch Jan 20, 2026, 2:28 AM

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wharton is wharton

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:29 AM

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alr i lowk kinda lied its not NYC is like a bit further rural I js didnt wanna reveal

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:29 AM

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eh

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ny is still pretty competitive but it helps

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:29 AM

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tru

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someone form my school

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0 ecs got into wharton

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:29 AM

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interestin

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legacy?

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:29 AM

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nah ED

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tho

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:30 AM

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interesting

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btw wharton ED doesnt give a big boost

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its marinal

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marginal

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most of the people filling up ED is legacy or recruited

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:30 AM

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does duke give ED boost cause every1 ik got in RD

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:30 AM

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qb and fgli

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duke does but again its not like a big game changer

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:31 AM

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what was ur mainecs

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dang bro I didnt know u went to wharton I thot u went to like Umich or smthn

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:31 AM

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my best was my sport fs

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it wasnt a recruit sport

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but i was like a multiple time nat champ and i was on the us nat team

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:31 AM

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archery?

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:32 AM

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nah

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:32 AM

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hmm anyways does awards rlly matter a lot

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:32 AM

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like the honors section?

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:32 AM

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compared to ec's cause I think that is my worst section

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yes

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:32 AM

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i lowkey had shity ones i wont lie to you

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so i dont think so

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i had the psat one, the ap one, johne locke highest distinction i forget what is called

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and thats it

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i had pvsa too

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gold

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:33 AM

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yeah high distinction thats good

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they stopped pvsa

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:33 AM

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oh really

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:33 AM

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also since ur in IB, whats like the top 5 feeders

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:33 AM

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into IB?

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:33 AM

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yea

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or PE/HF

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:33 AM

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wharton harvard princeton

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uhhhh

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maybe

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mit and stanford

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columbia might replace one of them though

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:35 AM

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mental hare or PE/HF

PE placement is basically the same as IB

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:35 AM

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Mit?

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wild

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:36 AM

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yes

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:36 AM

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is duke nepoed?

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:36 AM

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Sloan serves as a excellent pipeline for the UG interested in MIT, just not alot in mit interested in finance

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:36 AM

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mental hare is duke nepoed?

ehhh

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not really

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its a legit target

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:36 AM

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I see the ppl who got internships all went to private with HS tuiton of 50k

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:36 AM

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theres always gonna be nepo

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:37 AM

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mental hare I see the ppl who got internships all went to private with HS tuiton of 50k

maybe

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:37 AM

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is IB recruiting hard?

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:37 AM

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i mean yeah

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you need to be spotless for 3 years

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for a good chance

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:38 AM

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hmm

forest snow Jan 20, 2026, 2:39 AM

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mental hare alr i lowk kinda lied its not NYC is like a bit further rural I js didnt wanna r...

Average Westchester resident

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 2:40 AM

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forest snow Average Westchester resident

u in IB too? 👿

forest snow Jan 20, 2026, 2:40 AM

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mental hare u in IB too? 👿

No thank you

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:45 AM

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@mental hare

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you seem to be kind of right

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duke seems to have a bit more nepo vs other schools

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but its not georgetown levels

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its still highly respected as a target

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(Same with georgetown)

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im not sure though if thats due to club recruitment

peak mural Jan 20, 2026, 2:49 AM

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@cosmic dome can i ask u something about kkr

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:50 AM

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?

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 3:13 AM

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peak mural <@743509635733913721> can i ask u something about kkr

alr...

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 3:13 AM

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cosmic dome but its not georgetown levels

georgetown nepo as well?

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 3:13 AM

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mental hare georgetown nepo as well?

good mix of nepo and legit

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 3:14 AM

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if I get into Duke and try a little for internships and stuff IB shouldnt be a problem?

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 3:14 AM

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nah

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 3:14 AM

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also what abt cornell dyson

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 3:17 AM

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mental hare also what abt cornell dyson

its decent

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a lot more comp though

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 3:18 AM

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well thats not good

sterile marsh Jan 20, 2026, 7:36 AM

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mental hare Location/Region: Anywhere in the US I just wanna make sure the job opps are near...

Dartmouth is lowk elite for finance

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Youll be one of the annoying campus finance bros but we have better percentage elite firm placement than HYPS + Penn

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Plus smaller classes so good professor attention

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Downside is our econ department is grade deflated and difficult but ur applying to cornell so that should be gucci

sterile marsh Jan 20, 2026, 7:39 AM

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mental hare Mit?

Mit has a tiny percentage of people going into finance but for the ones that do they have insane placement

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Like 80% percent. Thats why I said Dartmouth has better percentage placement than hyps and not hypsm 💀

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 2:46 PM

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sterile marsh Like 80% percent. Thats why I said Dartmouth has better percentage placement tha...

dartmouth doesnt

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lmfao

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what type of bias is this

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😭

sterile marsh Jan 20, 2026, 4:31 PM

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cosmic dome what type of bias is this

I was using this source https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools

Peak Frameworks

Investment Banking Target School List Using Data (Updated 2023)

Your school is the most important factor to break into investment banking. The top 15 target schools account for 1/2 of top IB jobs.

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The elite firm presence number

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 5:21 PM

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sterile marsh I was using this source https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools

Source isn’t super accurate

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He puts a lot of weight into total size

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Dartmouth I can assure you is not stronger then any hypsm

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It’s weaker then some tier 2s too

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Regardless yes it is a elite target school

sterile marsh Jan 20, 2026, 5:27 PM

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cosmic dome He puts a lot of weight into total size

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I mean…i agree but, is that your argument against Dartmouth 💀

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Cuz without it dartmouth would be 7th in percentage of student body presence

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Which is certainly not tier 2

sterile marsh Jan 20, 2026, 5:29 PM

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sterile marsh Youll be one of the annoying campus finance bros but we have better percentage e...

Also I specified percentage elite firm placement here ^

sterile marsh Jan 20, 2026, 5:29 PM

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cosmic dome Dartmouth I can assure you is not stronger then any hypsm

Of what investment bankers we do have, a higher percentage get placed into elite firms than hyps + penn is the point (probably on account of a stronger alumni network).

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You can look into their data to disprove that but the data itself seems accurate even if you disagree with the ranking methodology

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 9:13 PM

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sterile marsh Of what investment bankers we do have, a higher percentage get placed into elite...

Not too sure about data but I was on my school’s recruitment group in GS and Dartmouth isn’t seen as more desirable as a tier 1, which there r only 5 being hypsm and Wharton (replacing either s or m depending on the firm), this leaves Dartmouth and the other ivies and top 20s in tier 2 or lower, Dartmouth like any other ivy is strong but its pipeline is not that strong in the way you describe it

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 9:14 PM

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sterile marsh I mean…i agree but, is that your argument against Dartmouth 💀

No it’s my arguement against the credibility of the list

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 9:14 PM

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cosmic dome Not too sure about data but I was on my school’s recruitment group in GS and Dar...

Sorry usually it replaces Yale

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Sometimes Stanford or mit

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He also derives his data from LinkedIn which isn’t the best way to get these metrics

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I know personally you might feel Dartmouth is super elite from your experience, but so may someone at brown or someone at Cornell, if we look at it overall and from recruiting priorities in general Dartmouth is never ranked as a tier 1

mental hare Jan 20, 2026, 11:09 PM

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Soup is right

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I checked the top club at Dartmouth for finance and none of them placed

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I thought I was tweaking for a sec but @cosmic dome agrees so prob not better than cornell

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MIT is a dream school but idk why they would accept me most of their acceptees are like very academic and strong awards in math

cosmic dome Jan 20, 2026, 11:17 PM

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yeah they r very quantitative

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:34 AM

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cosmic dome Not too sure about data but I was on my school’s recruitment group in GS and Dar...

Doesnt that seem too anecdotal

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Obvious just random firms w no connection to dartmouth with perceive it as t2 level

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:34 AM

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GS is a random firm?

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its kind of the industry standard

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:35 AM

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But recruiters w connections to dartmouth will prioritize our alums more than other schools do theirs (same reason we get ranked so strong on alumni networks, being in the woods for 4 years makes you a lot more immersed w the college)

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:35 AM

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cosmic dome GS is a random firm?

Random recruiters*

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Not random firms

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:36 AM

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uh

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i dont think you really understand how recruitment works

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your team has a process that is applied to the whole for the specific groups, other banks like jpm and other bb use pretty similar systems

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its not my opinion but the company's placement

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additionally that might be true for specific recruiters

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but its not the recruiters decision

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its the teams

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they might be able to vouch a bit more, but its not substantial

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additionally

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thats not how it really works either

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since recruitment is done by school

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so everyone doing dartmouth recruitment is dartmouth alum

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so there isnt really any alumni bias

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:38 AM

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cosmic dome they might be able to vouch a bit more, but its not substantial

Thats kind of what I was trying to say

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:38 AM

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cosmic dome so there isnt really any alumni bias

That would absolutely result in more bias what

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:38 AM

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no

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how would lead to more bias

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:38 AM

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If everyone doing recruiting at a school is an alum them schools with alums who care more will have more bias

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:38 AM

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not how that works

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what

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:39 AM

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Idk man linkedin isnt perfect but unless theres a specific reason why dartmouth people would be more likely to be on linkedin (for some reason?) then its a good sample size for a metric

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:39 AM

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they also dont have a quota, its a does he meet our standard, yes? what does this mean, it means that they understand the school and whats impressive for the school, they select a small amount that they deem imprssive and send the information to the main team and they interview and decide

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he/she

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the alumni have little say in the decision

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:40 AM

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Not to discount your personal experience but like there is a clear disparity with what you’re saying and whats shown. And you definitely have more finance experience than me but equating a complaint on methodology to a complaint on data to discredit a source is not how the scientific method works

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:40 AM

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not really

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ok

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then i guess

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whats your reasoning for stating dartmouth is better then hypsm?

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for "elite" placement

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:41 AM

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I did not say that

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:41 AM

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is that not exactly what you said

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:41 AM

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I said it places a higher percentage of people going into the field into elite firms

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And my reasoning is the source 😭

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:41 AM

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the source being peak frameworks?

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thats like you using a opinion newspaper as evidence

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:42 AM

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That doesnt really equate to being “better” than hypsm because if the pathways arent there its not as easy to do IB and a percentage difference is marginal

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:42 AM

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cosmic dome the source being peak frameworks?

Like

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Again

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You have to discredit the data dude not the website nor the ranking methodology

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:42 AM

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a higher yield into "elite" firms per capita is literally one of the definitions of target status

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im discrediting the way the data is sourced

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via linked in, in a reduced sample size, void of any context or actual true weighting

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:45 AM

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cosmic dome via linked in, in a reduced sample size, void of any context or actual true weig...

The sample size is multiple thousand which definitely is not a bad sample size

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Like you cant really discredit linkedin as a source when very few top college graduates dont have linkedins and there is no confounding variable that would skew results towards dartmouth

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:46 AM

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also im looking at this source, and peak frameworks lists dartmouth as a semi target, which is def not true it is a target, but this just shows some discrepancies in their data and how they weighted such data

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:46 AM

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The sample size is large enough to be representative

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:46 AM

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yes maybe, but the data is not verified, and can easily be fabricated maybe not by peak frameworks but specifically by users on linked in

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:46 AM

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cosmic dome also im looking at this source, and peak frameworks lists dartmouth as a semi ta...

But like again you’re discrediting the ranking methodology which I agree with. Why do they only rank based on total hires? Its silly. But the data is perfectly fine

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:46 AM

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im also wondering

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where did u get this elite firm yield

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data stat

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im not seeing it

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:47 AM

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cosmic dome yes maybe, but the data is not verified, and can easily be fabricated maybe not ...

I mean again, it could be, but do you really think more people are faking getting into dartmouth (or more dartmouth people faking getting into elite firms?)

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:47 AM

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ah i see

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ok

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:47 AM

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Without a confounding variable there isnt a reason to suspect these skew numbers

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:49 AM

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maybe so but this data def isnt enough to support your claim of better placements due to alumni

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and peak frameworks itself made this "elite" firm statistic, what it classifies as elite firms is questionable

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:50 AM

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That was just a reason I threw out there because it seemed logical. I’m not banking my argument on it being true

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:50 AM

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cosmic dome and peak frameworks itself made this "elite" firm statistic, what it classifies ...

It lists it

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:50 AM

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i know

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the list is questionable

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is what i meant

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that actually

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doesnt matter that much

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so ignore that

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:51 AM

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cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:51 AM

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it is odd how dartmouth thru these statistics has better "elite" firm placements

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but i dont think its anything to base a claim on

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SMU is a 60%

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which is explained by nepotism

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there is usually context explained behind these numbers, im not too familiar w/ dartmouth

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but i highly doubt its due to it being "dartmouth"

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or that their alumni care more

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wait ilied

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i lied

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wrong data lemme recheck

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:53 AM

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cosmic dome or that their alumni care more

I mean the alumni network is just a thing we’re known for

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Like even among good schools

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:54 AM

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yes agreed

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:54 AM

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Again, didnt have evidence, just seemed logical

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:54 AM

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but by that logic

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yale should be stellar

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and looking at it

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brown too has quite a high yield into elite firms

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which i think it might be because those schools arent obvious finance into ib schools, so those who go into IB are much better prepared for what high finance requires and more interested in those elite firms

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:54 AM

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I mean i think you kind of have to find a balance

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Yeah

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Thats what i was going to say

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But the thing is dartmouth is financecentric. We dont have the lay prestige to be famous for it but its the number one field here

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Thats why we’re also 7th place for the percentage of student body going into the field

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Other schools that have higher percentage yield dont have a high percentage of undergrads going into it, which means its probably due to nepotism or 100% confidence like you said

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:56 AM

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perhaps

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but i really question that point

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simply because yale isnt that high in %

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:56 AM

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I mean

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Yale isnt too known for econ, is it?

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Last I checked

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:57 AM

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no but EP and E is a direct feeder

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:57 AM

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Their alumni network is famous among hypsm but it usually isnt ranked alongside schools like dartmouth and notre dame in pure strength

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:57 AM

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and additionally those interested in finance would reach out to alumni

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perhaps but from what ive heard its also very tight knit

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:58 AM

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Not nearly as much

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The student body is much bigger and you have new haven to explore

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Dartmouth is a tiny school of barely a few thousand people and you literally only have the woods

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The only activity you can do is to talk to others and get involved in the college

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 2:59 AM

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i get your point

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hmm

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let me ask around w/ people in those teams

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i dont really think even if alumni were that big into helping they could influence it that much

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:59 AM

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And alumni are insanely overinvolved. They vote for issues that impact the decisions the college takes, they constantly visit, and they even have sex in undergraduate students beds (we’re told to lock our doors when they come visit)

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 2:59 AM

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cosmic dome i dont really think even if alumni were that big into helping they could influen...

Well we also have more endowment per student than most other schools

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Not more than hyp but more than the rest of the ivy league, if that makes a difference

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 3:00 AM

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not really

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 3:00 AM

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Like you can get pretty much any non paid internship financed. You can take one across the world and dartmouth will pay for it and give a few thousand extra

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Might be good for recruitment, i dunno

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 3:01 AM

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most schools do that

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since most ivies are targets and have direct relations w/ the bank

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 3:01 AM

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🤷‍♂️ fair enough

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 3:01 AM

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actually all ivies r targets

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 3:01 AM

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Wait would the grade deflation have anything to do w it

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Our econ department has an enforced B+ median. Econ students voted to make it that way so that their gpa’s would look more contextually impressive

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 3:02 AM

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no because again the team is filled w/ dartmouth alumni and you are only compared vs other dartmouth students so they understand the school in the context

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it might make a difference in the interview rounds if your interviewer is a asshole

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but i doubt it

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actually scratch that

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i dont think it would make much of a difference at all unless its drastic and very recent

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 3:03 AM

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Not recent. Idk how you define drastic. It is definitely very hard to get a 4.0

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 3:04 AM

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sterile marsh Not recent. Idk how you define drastic. It is definitely very hard to get a 4.0

then it wont be held against you

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only time i could see where that matters

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is lower semi targets/non targets

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since they r all clumped into one basket

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 3:04 AM

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Its unfeasible to be consistently two median grades above the average in every single major class you take filled with other ivy level studenrs

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 3:04 AM

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cosmic dome then it wont be held against you

Then im out of ideas lol

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Either way this campus is very financecentric

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Moreso than cornell and columbia, which are the other two schools i have a lot of experience being around

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 3:05 AM

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sterile marsh Its unfeasible to be consistently two median grades above the average in every s...

yes and again that would show across the whole body

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 3:05 AM

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sterile marsh Moreso than cornell and columbia, which are the other two schools i have a lot o...

i mean yes, but cornell also has excellent well know programs in other areas, columbia to a lesser degree

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dartmouth is a well rounded school and apparently finance centric

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 3:06 AM

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Like i know you said im likely to be biased and I cant promise im not but it definitely seems like us not being famous for finance is more a result of low lay prestige moreso than what we do or dont do well

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 3:07 AM

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i think the main reason why is that your class sizes are smaller so the presence isnt as obvious

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thats also why so many people think stern is super strong

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even though its not

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 3:08 AM

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Yeah true. Doesnt help that the number one study when you research placement rankings only ranks based on total hires (and then admits its own fault and only remedies it by showing a secondary graph where total hires hold 2/3’s weight)

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 3:09 AM

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again which is why context is extremely important, even raw data doesnt tell a full story

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people think kelley is underrated when its not

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its a terrible school for finance

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its simply the IBW that makes these numbers for kelley

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 3:11 AM

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Makes sense

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Either way I think i got my point across so im gonna go back to studying

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This was very informative thank you

cosmic dome Jan 21, 2026, 3:11 AM

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maybe so ill ask around about dartmouth and its alumni

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 3:12 AM

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Let me know if you find anything out!

mental hare Jan 21, 2026, 10:36 PM

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sterile marsh Let me know if you find anything out!

I would agree with Soup the rankings on Peak Frameworks is kinda messed up cuz Dartmouth is highly nepo with parents working in finance so they go into the intention of wanting finance jobs so their placement compared to total class size is higher

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 10:36 PM

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That is literally not what soup said lol

mental hare Jan 21, 2026, 10:36 PM

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idk my friend also junior there and didnt break in I think

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 10:37 PM

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Also i dont think dartmouth is any more nepo than any other ivy? We sent such a large relative percentage of our students there that itd be impossible to attribute it to nepo

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Like a school that sends 0.5% of its undergraduates is probably all nepo lol but we’re 7th in undergraduate percentage going into IB

mental hare Jan 21, 2026, 10:39 PM

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nepo/hooked

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Nobody from my school every got into Dartmouth (I go to feeder) and the only person that did was double legacy, and the only other person was worth 10+ mil + legacy

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 10:41 PM

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Dartmouth doesnt have higher legacy percentages than other top schools lol

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So that experience is purely anecdotal 😭

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Dartmouth is actually on the lower end

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Dartmouth is 11% vs stanford and cornells 15% for example

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So if anything that would indicate that dartmouth is less nepo, unless you’re implying people with nepo connections choose dartmouth at a higher rate without even having legacy

mental hare Jan 21, 2026, 10:44 PM

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sterile marsh Dartmouth doesnt have higher legacy percentages than other top schools lol

anyways can you check a LOR I wrote for myself my rec letter teacher let me right it myself

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for this summer program I wanna know like the rating out of 10 and AO would give

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 10:44 PM

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No I feel like thats unethical

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I would probably not want to choose a teacher who asked me to write my own letter

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That kind of defeats the point

mental hare Jan 21, 2026, 10:48 PM

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well she told me the other alternative is her chatgpt

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so.. lmao

sterile marsh Jan 21, 2026, 10:51 PM

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Which is like

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A really good sign not to ask that teacher for a LOR

mental hare Jan 23, 2026, 11:35 PM

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@cosmic dome sorry to ping u but how is UPenn without wharton

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in terms of placement

cosmic dome Jan 23, 2026, 11:40 PM

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strong

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target

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not a t ier 1

mental hare Jan 23, 2026, 11:44 PM

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cosmic dome target

rlly? compared to duke better? and also can you take wharton classes as much as possible

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cus every1 onine keeps saying apply to wharton for finance and econ for grad school

cosmic dome Jan 23, 2026, 11:51 PM

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they r relative

mental hare Jan 24, 2026, 12:20 AM

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cosmic dome they r relative

why cant I see upenn econ kids at good banks on linkedin

cosmic dome Jan 24, 2026, 12:27 AM

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most people interested in high finance would do wharton so theres a lot less from CAS on linked in

mental hare Jan 24, 2026, 12:30 AM

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cosmic dome most people interested in high finance would do wharton so theres a lot less fr...

so the banks dont rlly care if ur in CAS do they have same recruiting sessions

cosmic dome Jan 24, 2026, 12:49 AM

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no they do

mental hare Jan 24, 2026, 1:50 AM

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cosmic dome no they do

yeah seems like most ppl are saying good for BB but EB/PE/HF is where the difference shows, seems like Cornell Dyson might be better placement wise

sterile marsh Feb 25, 2026, 8:10 AM

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cosmic dome maybe so ill ask around about dartmouth and its alumni

This is a total necro but looking at career outcomes by major rn and holy crap its all finance

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Gov has a higher percentage of finance employed alumni than law

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Top employers for sociology, linguistics, classics degrees? Usually dartmouth itself or google but after that its like the top 5 finance firms in order lmao

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like this is for GOVERNMENT.

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Probably some survey bias but dude 😭

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I cannot pick a major no matter how stemmy or obscure without finance being the top sector or at least 2nd place

cosmic dome Feb 25, 2026, 4:07 PM

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sterile marsh like this is for GOVERNMENT.

yes firms like people who worked in the gov especially in the treasury/fed adjacent

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