University of Michigan (UMich) (2024-2025)

[mystic ibex]

so you’re lowkey the goat

No fucking way☠️

[mental dome]

I also soehow got Honors Carolina

which allegedly

Is 1%

[mystic ibex]

Lol wtf

[mental dome]

But idk like how it's actually selected

[mystic ibex]

Brutha ur cracked

[mental dome]

Now I feel bad cuz I'll prolly go to Mich cuz a ton of ppl from my school are so I prolly just stole someone's Honors Carolina spot 😭

Assuming I don't bag like Yale

[mystic ibex]

Yeah mich instate tuition is hard to pass up

[mental dome]

Now that I have post prestige clarity I think Yale is on eof the only schools I'd go to over UMich

[upbeat marsh]

u got in right?

[mental dome]

Yeah

LSA

[upbeat marsh]

WWW

[mental dome]

Yessir

Waiting on CS

But I lowkey dec

My mom made me apply to CS advanced selection

But like

I wasn't really too serious about Can't Shower anyways

[sullen aspen]

i did the my scholarship profile thing and there were only like 2 checkboxes that applied to me 😭

[dawn basin]

Do you fill out that profile after you get admitted?

[sullen aspen]

yeah it's in wolverine access

it's only checkboxes that's it

[mystic ibex]

wait how do I log into wolverine access

[sullen aspen]

you have to make a U-M friend account

then to go to my scholarship profile, go to "new and prospective student business" -> "new and prospective student center" -> bottom link in the financial aid section

[dawn basin]

Do the checkboxes mean you got something or is it just scholarships you can be considered for?

[fringe tangle]

im just worried that it has a reputation for smut 💀

[sullen aspen]

it's just stuff you select that qualifies you for consideration for certain scholarships

[compact mist]

random question but does anyone know when the letter of continued interest is due?

[sullen aspen]

doesn't mean you'll get them

[sullen aspen]

march 1

[compact mist]

thx

[dawn basin]

ah ok, ty

[mystic ibex]

Yeah valid☠️

[twin vault]

is this a sign

[distant mica]

Bro 💀💀💀

That is NOT a sign

[twin vault]

valorant is telling me write a loci

[civic orbit]

yes, write it.

[ripe temple]

GEs?

[scarlet heath]

Probably gen eds

[ripe temple]

If that's the case, it varies by a lot

Like some Gen Ed classes are good, some are mid, some are bad

[rustic charm]

deferred

dick not big enough :/

[supple cypress]

@rustic charm LMAO

[rustic charm]

bro

i have like 1 inch peepee

[supple cypress]

[uncut narwhal]

Are there any for merit only

[slate minnow]

i have to get 3-legged jeans and i still got deferred 😕

[twin vault]

I know lol

[twin vault]

So never

In 6 months you'll get hard reset lol

Oh shi

U got it then

I'm lowkey guilty of trolling in comp sometimes

I peaked asc and I'm plat rn

I'm trying to get back but it's hard

Maybe I'll queue 6 hrs of dm like flor

Aim too inconsistent

Spamming dm surely must make my aim better though

[ripe temple]

Just Google it. Search up Ross major course guide or something

[supple girder]

Same 💀

[ripe temple]

Think of it like this. Full time college student is 12 credits hours. Average is 15-16 credits. Average class is 3-4 credits.

Maximum credits for full time before it becomes over is 18

[strange viper]

you could always say like ur trying hard to maintain your grades. i also think going into hyper specific detail about your plan at umich will help, at least i think it helped w me

[rose sentinel]

Yep ^^

And also I feel like I haven't done much

But if I actually list it out

It sounds like I did a lot lol

[barren stag]

..

it does NOT matter bro

💀

[mossy obsidian]

yk it's bad when people say their grades "dropped" but it's just a b 😭

[barren stag]

fr

ok so it doesnt matter 😭

bro thinks a B is the end oft he world

ur counselor is stupid

no offense

sweat ahh counselor

[mossy obsidian]

what even was the class

[wooden kettle]

a B in the end doesnt matter

like really

😂

[rose sentinel]

one time my counselor yelled at me for being at a beach with my family on a weekend when I was a SOPHOMORE smh

[mossy obsidian]

urm you will be fine

[wooden kettle]

i avoided any of this kind of panic by avoiding any honors or ap english classes

lmaoo

[mossy obsidian]

what are you majoring in?

samesies!

fr

[wooden kettle]

cs is so fucking oversaturated these days

making it so competitive

[barren stag]

for context i got 3 B-s

first semester

[mossy obsidian]

my class gave me two weeks to finish three units of calc

[barren stag]

i think u will be ok..

[mossy obsidian]

so mid.

[barren stag]

calc stats and physics B-

[rose sentinel]

then there's me majoring in something that most schools don't even have a major for x_x

[barren stag]

and im still alive

shocker

[mossy obsidian]

hi

[barren stag]

hi

i love using "and"

[mossy obsidian]

now you mentioned it what is it??

[rose sentinel]

UX design

[mossy obsidian]

🥶

[wooden kettle]

ohhh

austin has UX design

!

school of informatics

[rose sentinel]

Yep applied there

[wooden kettle]

though theres only 200 seats

[rose sentinel]

I got into UNC info sci so I'm pretty happy with that

[wooden kettle]

whats nice is that i can also go for their data science pathway in school of infomatics

[wooden kettle]

but i thought unc doesnt admit by major or school

[rose sentinel]

Oh yeah I mean I got into UNC

And they have an info sci major

[wooden kettle]

yeah

[rose sentinel]

So

Yeah lol

[wooden kettle]

i applied there with cs

lol

[rose sentinel]

Ooh nice

[mossy obsidian]

i applied either cs or ece to all my schools but i don't have many good ecs

i have a high-impact and a low-impact one 🙂‍↕️

[rose sentinel]

Ngl a lot of the time it's knowing how to sell your ECs

My ECs are not that impressive but they sound impressive lol

[wooden kettle]

^^^ this

[rose sentinel]

Dw you'll be okay

[wooden kettle]

also this

[meager moat]

didnt knew that was a thing and completely ruined my ea app

😭

[rose sentinel]

Same lol

Dw fellow duke rejects unite

We'll get into great schools RD

[meager moat]

hell yeah

[rose sentinel]

I'm a UNC simp now 🩵

[barren stag]

ok

[lean ibex]

ok

[tribal kite]

ok

[grand lintel]

Has anyone been able to access the LSA Honors application

[turbid island]

i got postponed

[mental dome]

Which admissions lingo is better

Accept Defer Reject

Or

Admit Postpone Deny

[turbid island]

lol

@mental domedid you get in

[mental dome]

Yea

[tribal kite]

accept defer reject

[outer mural]

Admit Postpone Deny

[sage bear]

Deny and postpone seem a little less harsh

[outer mural]

Postpone is less harsh

[rustic charm]

womp womp. same here

peepee not long enough

i guess

[barren stag]

ok

[wintry mountain]

Is the NPC just wrong if you're out of state?

I'm confused

The estimated price I would pay doesn't change whether my status is in-state or out-of-state which can't be right

[ripe temple]

Nah it's usually accurate

What does the price exactly say

[dusky inlet]

how do you check

[grand lintel]

Well there's a link if you search up the LSA Honors website but to access it you gotta make a umich friend account and verify it which takes 24-48 hours

And I think I did that but when I click on the link it just says "LSA Honors application is not currently available" so idk if my account just isn't finished verifying yet

[sullen aspen]

mine's like 44k a year 😭

hopefully i end up getting more

[latent flower]

i wanna see essay examples that aren’t a decade old

if anyone got in recently and is ok sharing their essays id greatly appreciate it

[ripe temple]

You might if you potentially get scholarships after getting admitted EA. You might not

But it's unfortunately the reality of being OOS

And for Michigan to be a public university, it means they're mainly responsible for the students in the state

[sullen aspen]

i did NPC for each of my top schools and they're all around that range so i might just end up going to umich anyways

[ripe temple]

Be sure to take into consideration for upper division tuition. Some colleges, like COE, hike up crazy if you meet 55+ credits

[sullen aspen]

minnesota is 42k, wisconsin is 48k, florida is 44k

[sullen aspen]

does lsa do that

[ripe temple]

They do but it's less compared to COE. I would just google UMich tuition registrar

[sullen aspen]

ok i see it

it's like a 10% increase

[ripe temple]

Uh, it depends on the person ig? But business programs tend to be gpa friendly.

[sullen aspen]

the institutional grant i got was like 33k i think

via npc

if i get more that would be awesome

but idk how that'd work

[ripe temple]

Institutional grant is based on your need and sorta varies. It might be slightly more or might be the same, but I wouldn't expect it to increase like crazy

And I'm assuming you're able to afford the rest of the costs beyond aid?

[sullen aspen]

i honestly don't know

45k is a lot

[ripe temple]

You haven't talked with your family about this?

[sullen aspen]

i have

[ripe temple]

And?

[sullen aspen]

idk they say they'll support me but it's super vague

[ripe temple]

Did you show them the costs?

[sullen aspen]

i've told them

[wintry mountain]

It says 25k/year for tuition, housing, etc.

[sullen aspen]

haven't showed them but i told them

[ripe temple]

I'm gonna need you to do yourself a favor and give a serious conversation, like an actual conversation that won't make them vague, regarding costs

[wintry mountain]

But isn't there usually a price discrepancy between in-state and out-of-state?

[ripe temple]

Something like "they'll support you" is not a good sign. 9 times out of 10, parents that say similar responses seem to either think college would be cheaper or you'd just be able to pay it off through loans, believing loans aren't an issue

[ripe temple]

Mhm, are you in state or OOS?

[sullen aspen]

how long does it take for the finaid packages to come out

[ripe temple]

I believe I got mine around February when I got admitted EA

[sullen aspen]

i'll wait until the real thing comes out then

[wintry mountain]

OOS

[ripe temple]

Or... start now. The earlier the better

This should be a consistent conversation to be talking about

[ripe temple]

Well I just did the NPC and already saw great discrepancies

My guess, you must've made a mistake on something

[sullen aspen]

do they factor your family income relative to your state's cost of living or is it more general

[upbeat marsh]

not ross tho. with the ross curve, it's friendly?

[ripe temple]

From what I know, no.

[sullen aspen]

well hopefully they have mercy

cause the only thing worse than being rejected from a school is being accepted and not being able to go because of costs

[tawdry sandal]

I agree

Aren't you able to appeal sometimes and ask for more aid, or does that barely work?

[ripe temple]

The curve distribution initially seems freaky but in reality Ross is a pretty joke of a school when it comes to academic difficulty. I don't exactly know what's going on, but vast majority of my Ross friends have told me that almost everyone in their classes tend to get either an A or B at lowest in general. On top of the fact that those classes, from what I've seen and what my friends told me, are not too difficult compared to other majors.

Also, it's still hard for me in understanding the curve. One of my friends said "they say 40% get an A but it doesn't exactly mean 40% will get an A".

[wintry mountain]

I'll do it again and check

Yeah idk

I change I and my parents' residency to Michigan and it doesn't change

Ig I'll just see when I get my package

One other question about fin aid

The NPC factors in a $15k institutional scholarship but I haven't gotten anything (whereas the institutional grant is $40k)

So I'm not sure what that's about

[scarlet heath]

I can share

[latent flower]

thx man if u can dm it to me ill appreciate it

[strange viper]

i just got in ea and i'd be willing to share

[scarlet heath]

Sent in DMs

[pulsar arch]

Are ppl applying for rd at a signifigant disadvantage vs people who applyed ea for umich

like do they take most ppl from ea round

[ripe temple]

Ignoring Ross since I'm still unsure of that, Michigan in their admissions website directly states that there's no preference between EA and RD

The only disadvantage I can think of is because of applying to RD, you wouldn't be considered for certain scholarships you potentially could have gotten if you applied EA

[pulsar arch]

so i apply rd i basically have no chance for scholarships

[ripe temple]

You would still get financial aid. And you could still apply for other scholarships in the future if you attend here. But there are certain scholarships that are specific to EA

[rose sentinel]

Any idea about if we get deferred EA?

[ripe temple]

I honestly have no clue and would advise emailing admissions for that. I originally thought no and I'm aware of some EA scholarships that had earlier deadlines that you wouldn't qualify, but now I'm unsure

[rose sentinel]

Thanks

Honestly I'll be happy if I get in at all lol

So that's my main goal rn

I'll worry about scholarships later

[wintry mountain]

Does anyone know what this is?

I've got no idea

[dawn basin]

For the ea scholarships would you automatically be considered for those if admitted or is there a separate scholarship application process for them?

[ripe temple]

You're automatically considered but there are some new student scholarships that have early deadlines

[tawdry sandal]

Can I also see yours?

[wintry mountain]

I guess I'll find out in a few weeks 💀

I just don't understand why they factor in a scholarship already

[dawn basin]

Are the automatically considered ones mentioned in your letter?

[ripe temple]

Nope

[dawn basin]

Oh ok, will it come later with the financial aid package?

[uncut narwhal]

I’m confused do they not award scholarships right away?

[barren flint]

Hi

[wispy turret]

Wdym

Does Ross care if u EA

[latent flower]

congratulations, sure can u dm them?

[ripe temple]

You can potentially see them in your financial aid award when you get them

You don't get announced in your acceptance letter

[uncut narwhal]

Hmm what if I didn’t apply for aid am I just ineligible

[scarlet heath]

Can you apply for lsa honors without accepting the u mich decision?

[tribal kite]

yes

[strange viper]

are there certain majors that are better for LSA honors than others? like if i wanna do film and english will the academic benefits be worth the application? they're not very research-heavy majors which is why i was wondering

[ripe temple]

I mean you're supposed to in order to be considered for all possible scholarships...

[uncut narwhal]

I think it’s too late lol

Plus I don’t have those forms done

[junior laurel]

wait is umich out?

[tawdry sandal]

Yah go check

Did you get in

[junior laurel]

no

i applied RD

[kind oyster]

The prompt is so weird

[safe fjord]

last year CS advanced selection came out at 3, exactly a week after decisions came out, so they'll probably be this Friday at 3pm est

[grand lintel]

Ikr lmao like analyzing ai 🤔

[grand lintel]

Lowkey nervous

Everyone at my school who's applied for cs has been accepted to advanced selection tho so hopefully it's fine

Sample size of 3 though lol

[barren flint]

whens the deadline

[grand lintel]

There are rolling deadlines up until I think April 9 but the earlier you send the earlier you get a decision

[latent flower]

Has anyone here got in Mechanical engineering umich or atleast engineering?

[safe fjord]

yes

[latent flower]

U mind sharing ur essays? If that’s alr w u

[safe fjord]

Sorry, they're somewhat personal. But if you have any specific questions about umich's essays I can try my best to answer

[latent flower]

That’s alr, I just wanted to know if since im applying for a STEM major, is there any difference in how I should answer the essays also what should i research about when writing the Why US essay

[safe fjord]

My community essay for umich was completely unrelated to my major or CoE (comp sci) -- it was about my ethnicity, so for that one you don't have to do anything special or related to STEM. One thing I tried to do in this one was to show growth from start to end.

In the Why Umich, you can research clubs that sound interesting to you and relate them back to your experiences in school or HS clubs and/or what you plan on doing in them, classes you're interested in and why, and anything else that catches your interest on their website (I wrote about a living learning community I'm interested in as well). Make sure to tie the things you mention back to yourself in some way

[summer shore]

Should I talk about fit and things I’ve done since applying in my LOCI?

[safe fjord]

Yes, probably (but I don't have any experience in writing locis)

[mystic ibex]

My community essay was about my religious community(I’m asian male though)

For my why michigan, yeah, just connect yourself back to COE

Use the COE mission statements

[hasty gull]

when does financial aid and scholarship info come out for ea admits?

[latent flower]

thx for your response man really appreciate it, I just spend the last hour and a half researching and I think I found some pretty good topics, i found some courses that Im interested in but how do I know if I'll even get these courses? I dont wanna mention a course that's like impossible for me to take yk?

[latent flower]

what's COE

[latent flower]

I might talk about that too, I memorized the entire Quran when I was younger and religion is a huge part of my identity, at first I thought mentioning political things weren't good but ima talk about it now

[scarlet heath]

Religion is not political at all and if it’s a big part of ur identity you should mention it because it gives depth to your character

Just tie it in with engineering somehow

Maybe mention the golden age of Islam with all the developments in physics

[latent flower]

ngl thats a good idea

idk man i think here in saudi we have way too many college advisors that tell us to try not to mention islam

idk why but thats what they've been telling me for the past 3 years

[mystic ibex]

College of wng

Eng

[safe fjord]

Look up the course guide for your major

[safe fjord]

This is probably not necessarily needed for the community essay, you'll be talking about engineering through all the rest of your application anyway

[latent flower]

Alr thank you all

[scarlet heath]

Yeah I was saying in general I didn’t know which essay he was talking about

[mystic ibex]

yes I didn't talk about eng at all in my community essay

[crude nacelle]

yea i got in meche

i talked about church in my community essay

nothing about eng

[outer mural]

is the honors application the same for everyone / different schools

🤧

oh nvm

[grand lintel]

Anyone able to get into LSA scholarships yet

[torn coral]

No

[fringe tangle]

supplemental essay done 🔥

i know it’s good because i’m dreading having another person lay eyes on it

[lusty shoal]

Help I haven’t even started

I’ll do it tmrw (i won’t)

[half wharf]

Historically when has umich rd decisions come out

[meager moat]

last friday of jan

[half wharf]

jan?

do you mean march or something lol

[meager moat]

oh rd?

idk

[hybrid flicker]

around ivy day

[urban raptor]

no waitlist?

[urban raptor]

you can get these qs easily answered by googling it

[half wharf]

Maybe I'm bad at googling because I didn't find anything

[safe fjord]

Last Friday of March I thinn

[lone wing]

Eci isnt required right
I dont rly have anything new to report cause i submitted less than a week ago rd 💀

[safe fjord]

Not required

[lone wing]

Ok thx

[oblique turret]

it was march 30th when i applied RD last year

I also submitted a LOCI even though i wasnt required to bc I was regular decision

[half wharf]

Okay thank you so much

Did you get in lol

[oblique turret]

I did

I declined the offer tho but im applying for transfer now

[tribal kite]

isn't transfer scary

cuz u already have a friend group and stuff

and then others at the new uni would most probably have formed cliques

[oblique turret]

the only scary thing about it is finding housing lol

I dont have any friends at my current college so transferring is 100% easy

im in my freshman year so i have been at my current college for like 5months

[tribal kite]

but are you sure u'll make friends at the new uni

[oblique turret]

def yea

I think i will be comfortable making friends at a college that i actually like and want to stay at

[tribal kite]

i was considering applying for transferring if i dont get into my dream uni

chances are low transferring but still

[tribal kite]

ah

well

i still have a year 🙏🏼

[sage bear]

What’s the dream

[oblique turret]

i'd say apply to schools that you can 80% see yourself staying at for 4years (i sorta didnt) and if you have the reasons to transfer then do it

[tribal kite]

carnegie

[sage bear]

Ooo all the best

[tribal kite]

I SHDVE APPLIED INFORMATION SYSTEMS BRUH

[sage bear]

You did cs?

[tribal kite]

i did ED to CS yeah

cooked

[sage bear]

Ooof

I applied for ece

[tribal kite]

id pay extra to go to CMU frr

[sage bear]

That’s a long shot anyways

Cs was always out of question

[ionic nova]

I also got into Ross and from what I can tell, the beginning of each campus day is with like everyone and then the afternoon splits off into specific schools, aka Ross

The days where Ross happens might not be every time though, idk, if you're in your portal, it shows the first year Ross admit campus day options

[ripe temple]

https://admissions.umich.edu/campus-day-2025

Should show here

[terse crag]

Does anyone know if the defer rate differs for the different schools within UMich?

[ripe temple]

There's no official data for that

[ripe temple]

I mean it's simply too hard to tell. Many people get deferred from a multitude of colleges here

No one really tracks this

Nor do we take notice of this as it's useless to think about

[fringe tangle]

where are you at rn?

[oblique turret]

VCU

in virginia

[fringe tangle]

what do you not like abt it?

[oblique turret]

doesnt have the major i want, location, want to go oos, and i dont love love the school like other studentz

cant imagine graduating there

[bleak garden]

will applying rn compared to applying 1 month ago mean less chance of getting in

[empty axle]

no

[bleak garden]

alr thx

[mental dome]

LSA Honors prompt 💀

[lusty shoal]

is this on commonapp??

[maiden pelican]

did anyone talk about umich outside of the specific dept you applied to in their second essay

[safe fjord]

I didn't even mention any programs specific to CoE, treated it as a normal Why School essay and talked about clubs, classes, etc

[mental dome]

Nah it's after you get admitted

[maiden pelican]

fr? isnt the prompt about the specific undergraduate College or School or am i trippin

[safe fjord]

I did this in part because CS at CoE vs. CS at LSA are pretty similar

the only difference is like a few different required core classes

but since the essay is so lengthy i assume they definitely want more than just the school you chose

[maiden pelican]

makes sense, they worded it rather narrowly for such a long essay tho

[safe fjord]

yeah i have no idea why it's worded like that

[barren flint]

Any tips on prompt 2

[urban raptor]

money hungry college

[tribal kite]

Worth every penny

[safe fjord]

biggest imo is just to relate it back to yourself and the previous experiences you have, write about how you see yourself in the clubs/classes/etc that you mention, what you'll do in them, etc. (this goes for any why school essay though i think)

[empty axle]

so is CS advanced selecion most likely just coming out this friday

3pm

prbly?

[safe fjord]

yes

that's when it did last year, a week after

[empty axle]

thanks umcih admission system r really weird 😭

[safe fjord]

wish they actually gave us dates for things instead of just leaving us to figure things out yeah

[fiery dock]

i wanna ask again

WHY IS UMICH ASKING ME FOR LETTER OF INTEREST

[safe fjord]

They give everyone the opportunity to write a loci, even if you applied regular, for some reason

[twin vault]

Do I have to write a loci? I lowkey haven't done anything in senior yr

[distant mica]

They’ll still look at your app sooo

If you don’t care about Michigan then it would just be a waste of time to write it

[twin vault]

Like all I can say is that my grades went up a lot and I joined a club. Idk if it's worth writing about

[distant mica]

Don’t they take mid year report? If you did write it I’d connect the experiences at that new club to UMich and just write a mini why us in that format

I don’t believe you should mention higher grades in a LOCI, they see that in your mid year report

[twin vault]

Got it

Thank you

Ig I'll write my loci on the weekend

[urban raptor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/16r3dag/do_not_come_to_cmu/

[tribal kite]

One persons experience doesnt define the entire uni, most of their rant about CS quite honestly is on them, not the uni itself 💀

There are plenty of people happy with the uni within this server itself, and even in the comments of the thread u posted

Ive interacted a lot with the people there, and i personally know some that go there too

Id rather trust them over some random nobody commenting on reddit of all places

[meager moat]

its more of how well u can handle peer pressure i guess

cmu cs is toughest in the world

[urban raptor]

its like the

USC but the East side

its a good school and all

and i would go there

only if they'd let me in and if i could afford prob

its just mad expensive

[gray aurora]

cmu and usc are two very different schools lmfao

one is a notorious party/athletics school in a city known for being warm and sunny with a very prevalent “work hard, play hard” mentality and the other is a pretty small D3 grindset culture school in quite possibly the greyest city in the u.s. that’s referred to as pittsburgh’s last steel factory

they’re both great schools but they have very different cultures

[muted shale]

do applicants usually indicate that they want to do preferred admission?

[muted shale]

is cmu really that notorious????

im not saying its not hard

its top school for cs so ofc it would be difficult

but when i visited there were a lot of students chilling outside playing volleyball or reading a book or having a picnic

there was a lot of green space too

it was really nice so i always get confused when i see people say depressing stuff about cmu

[gray aurora]

pittsburgh is really cold in the winter

the majority of the year you cannot sit outside on the grass bc it’s too cold or it’s raining

and when you combine insanely difficult academics with a very unwelcoming outside environment and not a ton of school-sanctioned distractions other than a band with bagpipes and drums it starts do wear you down

when i interviewed for umich i talked to current students in my program at the time and one of them said she chose it over carnegie mellon because when she interviewed for cmu every student she spoke with sounded absolutely miserable

umich is also in a very cold place and has difficult academics but it’s on a beautiful campus and has a ton of school spirit and has pretty vibrant social scenes

[broken lagoon]

i fw the cmu vibe unironically

not the lack of social life, but the academic focus and rigour

[halcyon plank]

Yes

[fringe tangle]

thats all of them

[rustic charm]

I wrote about playing brawl stars and sleeping in class

[meager moat]

depends on what u expect from college tbh

if u wanna grind all 4 yrs

and feel like ur gonna do it irrespective of any factors

cmu is better

[empty axle]

Did you guys get the Regents Scholarship and is it hard to get or waht

do they jsut give itout to everyone

[rare acorn]

I just got it too

[empty axle]

u already got into priceton tho smh stop taking peoples mone y

💔

I wonder if its common tho

[reef remnant]

no its sitll miserable

its probably not as miserable as cmu

but still miserable

definitely stay west if ur from the west

[ripe temple]

Not really. It really depends on how you make the most of your college experience, but also how the college culture influences that. I, and thousands of other kids have had a wonderful time here while not seeing how it's miserable.

Perhaps the culture here didn't fit with you, which probably makes sense given how negative you are here, and that's totally understandable. But for the majority, a greater amount of people tend to have a positive opinion of the culture here, as opposed to other colleges

[safe fjord]

same i looked it up and its awarded to the top 1/3 of instate students

[mystic ibex]

Not for OOS?

[safe fjord]

no

https://finaid.umich.edu/major-financial-aid-programs

[gray aurora]

i would take miserable at a beautiful school with great school spirit over miserable in pittsburgh

[hoary bridge]

Anyone know when cs advance selection comes out?

[crude nacelle]

From what i heard it comes out tmr

[halcyon plank]

How did you find out 😭😭😭

[safe fjord]

They sent an email if u got it

[latent flower]

what's the least amount of words I can write in the 550 word essay without looking like im lazy? I dont wanna write too much and ruin it

[ripe temple]

They should've given a minimum word count

[latent flower]

they did? i dont think so

hold on let me check

oh it says 100

but i feel like if i do 100 it's like im asking to not be accepted

is 400-450 good?

[ripe temple]

That's fine. As long as you're able to send the message between that word count amount

[halcyon plank]

UMICH CS IS OUT

[hoary bridge]

Got in from LSA 🙏

[ripe temple]

Congrats to all that got into the smelliest major in the university ☺️

[tribal kite]

ADVANCE SELECTION IS OUTTT

[west otter]

what does advance selection even do idk i js clicked on it

[hasty gull]

what is that^^

[mental elk]

did you get cs

[tribal kite]

💔

its alr

fuck it we ball

[mental elk]

augh

what did you get @tribal kite

[tribal kite]

math + data science my goat

[tribal kite]

dawg

bro pinged me

💀

[mental elk]

yes

[tribal kite]

huh

what do u think

[mental elk]

thats pretty fire ngl

[tribal kite]

ong

fuck cs

atleadst i wont be associated with CS 😹🙏🏼

(this is copium)

its alr ngl

[ripe temple]

Yeah, instead you'll be associated as another form of a oversaturated career that'll be unemployed

[tribal kite]

im not doing quant

[ripe temple]

And?

[tribal kite]

trust

[ripe temple]

Silly wsg, working in a homeless shelter isn't a career ☺️ ☺️

[fringe tangle]

i’m just gonna be better and not be unemployed

[tribal kite]

wsg lil bro

fuck that was my first real rejection

feelsbadman

[spiral crescent]

if i got advance selection for cs do i have to major in cs

or is it just an option

[tribal kite]

its jst an option

[rigid socket]

yay i got cs:D wasn’t expecting it so im surprised ngl

[spiral crescent]

omg same congrats

now i don’t know if i should major in cs or not

[mystic ibex]

If you get COE you almost always get CS

LSA is more volatile

[rigid socket]

i see, that makes sense

[ripe temple]

Erm...no

[ripe temple]

That isn't true...

[rigid socket]

😭 oh, whats the % who get cs who apply for it if you know?

[mystic ibex]

Idk just from like

friends who've gotten mich

I've noticed most people who get COE get CS but id

k

[ripe temple]

I mean that's your perspective though. I know plenty that got into COE but got rejected by CS

[ripe temple]

That data has officially not been released

Safely put, you should just assume the acceptance to getting into CS is worse than getting into COE or LSA

[mystic ibex]

got it

[latent flower]

is it ok if i mention that I want to take a minor in the essay even tho i havent mentioned it anywhere else in my application?

[halcyon plank]

So cs AR < lsa AR?

And uiuc still flat out rejected me 🧍

[dawn flame]

Hello

[ripe temple]

Again, there is no official data for this. But this is under the assumption that CS is one of the most competitive majors, and it definitely is with Michigan

[rose sentinel]

what 😭

WHAT ABOUT INFO SCI

LSA

[safe fjord]

is there an info sci advanced selection?

[rose sentinel]

nope mine isn't out

[rose sentinel]

Not advanced selection

But like

preferred

or whatever it's called

[safe fjord]

ah

[scarlet heath]

I did

[latent flower]

Nice thx

[spiral crescent]

LMFAO

[ionic nova]

If you say you're not asking for need-based financial aid, are your chances for admission higher?

[mystic ibex]

no

[late path]

Huh, I'm surprised that it's required.

[safe fjord]

yea

[barren stag]

thank you for an extra spot

🔥

[urban raptor]

if u withdrawing Umich, GIVE ME

[stable kite]

FUCK YOU MICIGAN

youre still my fav campus oat

but FUCK YOUUU

[crude nacelle]

Bro i just got into cs advance but i lowk do not wanna do it

[crude nacelle]

bro this BETTER be an option

[signal crag]

Yes

No they want to find you and hunt you down for not choosing them

[rose sentinel]

YES PLEASE WITHDRAW FOR THE REST OF US

Nah you won't

Thank you for your service

[mental elk]

Hawk Tuah College of Rizzcraft and Sigmatry

trust

[dawn basin]

Idk if this has already been said but does anyone know when aid/merit scholarships will release?

[ripe temple]

They'll usually be revealed in your financial aid offer if you get one. However, do look to see if there are any scholarships here that have deadlines for you to apply to

[dawn basin]

Ah ok. Yeah I did that scholarship checkbox thing in the wolverine friend account section, qualified to like 2 or 3 I think, are there any other scholarships I can look for?

havent gotten financial aid offer yet but I heard that was released march-april

[wintry mountain]

What are some reasons I should not choose Michigan/what do current students not like?

Besides the price 💀

[noble summit]

Its ann arbour

[wintry mountain]

What's bad about ann arbor?

[noble summit]

Its ann arbor

[wintry mountain]

😭

[light lotus]

I liked Ann Arbor when I visited

[lusty shoal]

i thought ann arbor was nice

[wintry mountain]

Yeah, I've only ever heard good things

[safe fjord]

weather ig

[ripe temple]

I'm guessing that was last year during the FAFSA crisis but when I got accepted, I got my financial aid offer around February

[ripe temple]

The weather varies. I love snow, but it do be raining a good amount and when it ices, the roads and sidewalks are BAD to walk in.

It gets extremely cold at times. Coming from someone from NYC, I'm used to cold weather and adjusted but Michigan weather is next level

The university is incredibly big, and I mean really big. Commuting around classes, especially for me who lives in Central and has majority of their classes in North and some in Central, can be incredibly annoying since the bus system, although good, can be very annoying

[sullen aspen]

a michigan student who's from my town told me that ann arbor feels exactly the same as where we're from 💀

so yay

[inland yarrow]

lmao

ur username

[safe fjord]

when'd you submit your FAFSA and CSS when you applied?

[barren stag]

womp

[ripe temple]

Back when I applied, I submitted them all on Octoberish. But as long as you submitted them by the priority deadline(which was earlier for FAFSA), you'd usually get them by February

[barren stag]

we saw that

[ripe temple]

That was how it was for me at least since everyone I knew who got in EA got their aid package by then

Keep in mind it was 2022 though

[safe fjord]

the FAFSA opened dec 1st this year so it might be delayed

[ripe temple]

Probably, but colleges made estimated financial aid packages through the CSS Profile since FAFSA and CSS are quite similar with CSS needing to know more

[lusty shoal]

alright time to grind the supps

[sweet prawn]

lmfao real

i finished one

[wintry mountain]

Mmm yeah that's fair. I hadn't really considered campus size (geographically)

How bad is the housing situation rn?

[ripe temple]

It's not as bad compared to like Berkeley

But housing is pretty bad here. I was lucky to find cheap housing off campus that's near thankfully

That said, if you're high income you prolly won't have any issues with housing

Or if you decide to join those honors colleges or RC where you get guaranteed dorm housing there's that

[twilit stump]

hey I’m the application it says “ do you wish to provide details of circumstances or Qualifications not reflected in the applications”

I clicked yes, and no new text box pops up. Anyone else?

[sullen aspen]

i heard it's nearly impossible to get a dorm if you're not a freshman

[ripe temple]

I wouldn't say it's nearly impossible but it's definitely quite unlikely

Most students here live off campus

[dawn basin]

in your experience is it cheaper to live off campus?

[ripe temple]

There's definitely more options in finding cheaper housing with off campus. Gotta remember living in the dorm is basically $15,238 for 8 months(school time). That's basically 1.9k per month.

Greek life housing costs similar. Co-op housing is way cheaper(like below 1k usually) but you're required to do like 4 hrs of chores a week which aren't bad but not someone's forte for some. Obviously for those 2, you never know if those communities will fit with you and you might not like it there.

For the usual off campus housing, the costs without a roommate can be similar or higher if you want to be near campus. With roommates it's usually cheaper.

Obviously, if you're willing to take a larger commute, there's a lot more cheaper housing from there.

[upbeat marsh]

u have to start looking for off campus living in like sept or early oct too

[wintry mountain]

Yikes

Yeah I am definitely not high income lol

Sucks that housing is so hard to find; do most people get stuck with expensive off campus housing?

[ripe temple]

No, unless you're rich

Most either get similar to dorm costs or less

I mean I'm paying 750 a month and I'm by east quad

[latent flower]

just submitted everyone wish me luck

[wintry mountain]

Ok that's a relief to hear

[wintry mountain]

Good luck!

[upbeat marsh]

750????!!!! 😭 that's so much cheaper compared to me

[fringe tangle]

IM FREEEEEEE

[lusty shoal]

NICEEE

im almost done with my app

[strange viper]

lets gooooooo

[fringe tangle]

i'm 99% chance gonna get rejected but idc at this point

[lusty shoal]

no have hope

these are dark times rn

[wintry mountain]

We'll all be feeling better in a month when the hype has built back up again

[fringe tangle]

i won’t take it too hard if i get rejected bc i’ve been accepted by 4 colleges i would be happy to go to

they arent top 30 or anything crazy like that but i like them

[muted shale]

i cannot focus on umich prompts wtf ☠️

[last dirge]

what timezone js it in

for it to be due

[muted shale]

does that matter?

[last dirge]

i don't know that's why im asking

😭

[mystic ibex]

bro gtech actually like

[last dirge]

is it local

[mystic ibex]

deflated my tires

you feel

💀

stopped my momentum

[main lava]

yea fr

[lusty shoal]

same

actually i recycled my cornell essays

im being so serious its literally the same

[muted shale]

thats the strat tho

bruh i told myself i wouldnt write last minute ☠️

i also copy and pasted but i did have to do a bit more writing than usual for this one

[lusty shoal]

actually i almost made the mistake of writing about the residential colleges when im a stem major

💀

[muted shale]

but ive been dragging out the application across like multiple days ☠️

[lusty shoal]

ugh same

[muted shale]

☠️

[lusty shoal]

im just so tired

of everything

[muted shale]

same bruh

i hate college apps

[lusty shoal]

this will be my last one tho

so

[muted shale]

its prob cause this is the last one for me

[lusty shoal]

no more stress

[muted shale]

yeahh

[lusty shoal]

🔥

we got this bro

[muted shale]

and i already got accepted into rutgers

yas queen

[lusty shoal]

AHH NICE

[muted shale]

we're gonna slay and eat them up

[lusty shoal]

it was suepr competitive this year

yupp

[muted shale]

no crumbs

[lusty shoal]

every college will be begging for us to come

🤪

[muted shale]

exactly

oh are u also korean?

[lusty shoal]

yes!

[muted shale]

theres a lot more koreans than i expected here ☠️

[muted shale]

me too 👍

[lusty shoal]

dude this server is probably like 70% asian

😭

[muted shale]

ah exactly how the world should be

[lusty shoal]

isnt it already lol

asians probably make up most of the worlds population

[inland yarrow]

most of this server is asian or indian

or well

east asian or south asian 🤓

[muted shale]

i would still imagine at most like 40% tho

prob not like 70% ☠️

[inland yarrow]

i think it was like 55% ish

[muted shale]

really?

[inland yarrow]

iirc asia is 4.5B people

out of 8

[muted shale]

4.5B?

[inland yarrow]

4.7

out of 8

which is ~60%

[muted shale]

oh wtf ur right

oh i was only thinking of like china and india

u prob also needa add the asian diaspora in other countries

[wintry mountain]

This is so real

Actually scared for rd now

[barren flint]

can someone help me with prompt 2

[strange viper]

is that the why umich one?

[barren flint]

ye

about the specific schools

im so stressed

pls helpppppp

[strange viper]

what specifically are you stressed abt

for mine, i just went onto the page for my major and did a really big deep dive into what exactly i want to do

like what classes i want to take, which professors i want to work with, and i gave examples of what specifically i would do

[barren flint]

i was thinking that if i jus tmention stuff abt the school it wouldnt stand out cuz everyone else is doing that

so i was thinking about using an analogy but it doesnt make sense cuz i cant incorporate that into the entire essay

[lusty shoal]

theres only so much things that ppl can put on an essay

its fine to have some generic stuff, but the key is connecting it to you

[barren flint]

how do i do that though

[lusty shoal]

like how will umich's resources help u achieve ur goals?

[barren flint]

hmm

i see

[strange viper]

i mean saying you really like the football team won't do anything, but i wrote about how i would incorporate my interests (the beatles and world war i 😭) into the work that i do and how i would make a difference

[barren flint]

mm

[lusty shoal]

i said that i want to go to med school, so ill take advantage of the lsa bio health and society major, and i also want to study korean, so ill take advantage of study aborad programs

• research and career stuff

[wintry mountain]

In mine I did

1. Why I liked Computer Engineering
2. What drew me to a specific professor, why I liked his research, and how it related to projects I had done
3. Talked about a club at UMich and how it related to my robotics experience

[barren flint]

thats pretty much what im tryna do as well

[lusty shoal]

yea mine was pretty similar i said i want to continue my research expereinces

in bio

and then maybe a quirky fact or tradition

[barren flint]

should i talk about clubs

[lusty shoal]

"ill see myself in the bleachers, cherring on as the wolverines destroy the whatever ohio state mascot is

[lusty shoal]

i did it in the community essay

[barren flint]

what is a health and societty major

im majoring in psych

[lusty shoal]

its one of the majors in lsa

basically a more humanisitc approach to biology

[barren flint]

can i show you what i have

[lusty shoal]

sure

[barren flint]

ok let me fix it rq cuz its buns rn

[barren flint]

dms?

[lusty shoal]

yes theyre open

[wooden kettle]

Mich

[strange viper]

real

[sullen aspen]

honestly mine wasn't too great but i still got in oos

instead of focusing on the content itself i made sure to sound super authentic

i conveyed pretty much the same whimsical tone i had in my common app essay

[scarlet heath]

Did you get in?

[lusty shoal]

Get in where

Mich?

I have not yet

[fringe tangle]

the one time i'm a minority

[lusty shoal]

LOL

[plucky sable]

Need help w prompt 2

What do i include as a prospective economics major

LSA first year

[inland yarrow]

might be a bit late to ask this

but yeah

[dense stone]

yeah

[spiral crescent]

its less about talking about specific programs and more about connecting them to urself

and talk about how you personally align with the schools mission

[lusty shoal]

not me redoing my first essay

😭

[spiral crescent]

rip

they admit by school not major

so school of information

if you want to major in cs you need to apply for advance selection in cs major

go ahead

[muted shale]

yo wait ur cs major right

what did u put at the very top of the academics section of common app

lsa or engineering?

cauase the school of information is smth called preferred admission so i think thats smth different

apparently they have this program or smth where u can transfer to that other college during ur upper years

i think

[torn gyro]

wait i'm confused

[lusty shoal]

yea this whole michigan thing is so confusing

[spiral crescent]

which school within michigan did you apply to

[muted shale]

for us undergrads the major in information is the ONLY major in school of information

what school are u applying to within michigan

engineering or lsa

[torn gyro]

this is what i put

[muted shale]

ur LSA

[spiral crescent]

ur in LSA

[muted shale]

wait

[torn gyro]

wait so how can i do information

[spiral crescent]

"Preferred Admission (PA) is a way for you to indicate an interest in later transferring to an upper-level program, or the Ross School of Business. Acceptance guarantees placement in that academic unit if you meet certain prerequisites during your first year at U-M. The prerequisites vary, of course, depending on which unit is chosen."

[muted shale]

yeah so ur not school of information rn

[spiral crescent]

you need to get into michigan

then get into information

[muted shale]

wait can selecting advance selection into cs major make u it less likely to get into umich?

ik the cs thing itself is even more competitive

[spiral crescent]

no

[muted shale]

but how about for getting into umich at all

ohh

oh shoot then i'll hm

cause i was aiming for data science major..

[spiral crescent]

they dont tell u if u got advance selection until after u get in

[muted shale]

ohhhh

[spiral crescent]

i got advance selection for cs

but i dont need to major in cs

its just an option

first they accept you into michigan then they consider you for advance selection

[muted shale]

wait my essays are geared towards data science major but i would like to keep cs open then should i select advance selection?

[spiral crescent]

yes

[torn gyro]

man umich is making it confusing for no reason

[spiral crescent]

no harm in advance selection

thats lowk what i did

[muted shale]

okay gotcha thank u

also congrats on umich cs

[spiral crescent]

thank you <3

idk if ima do it tho

yeah

coe

[muted shale]

ikr i was confused what that preferred admission thing was

[torn gyro]

congrats

[spiral crescent]

thank you

idk if preferred admission is like advance selection tho

like advance selection has no impact on ur admissions decision idk about preferred admission

[torn gyro]

i see

so "area of interest" doesn't really mean anthing

[spiral crescent]

this is almost exactly what i did lol

[spiral crescent]

well its just a way for the AO to know what ur interested in

[muted shale]

so do they basically determine if they'll admit u into the school and then determine if u want to admit u into cs?

[spiral crescent]

yeah

[muted shale]

ooooh okok

[torn gyro]

gotcha

[muted shale]

very cool okok

[spiral crescent]

i talked about MIDAS and some eecs classes

[muted shale]

bruh i was taking data science route to avoid all the cs ppl but everyone else is doing the same thing ☠️

[torn gyro]

did you do preferred admission

[spiral crescent]

no

[spiral crescent]

hm

[torn gyro]

i'm doing the same thing lol

[spiral crescent]

idk just make sure ur essay is connected to you

like dont just talk about programs at michigan talk about how they align with you and make you a good fit

[muted shale]

no worries i would genuinely major in data science

[muted shale]

yeah ofc ofc

i hope i wrote it well..

[spiral crescent]

yeah i think ima either do computer engineering cs or data science

[muted shale]

i talked about michigan data science team

[spiral crescent]

honestly i dont think my why umich essay was superb or anything lol

[muted shale]

i saw midas

i am wondering if i should include midas..

[spiral crescent]

i think my community essay was really good and my why mich essay was okay

[muted shale]

but its 40 mins before deadline..

both my essays are ass

[spiral crescent]

don't just include it to include it

[muted shale]

true..

[torn gyro]

they'll consider me for the school of education even tho my interest is cs right? my aspirations relate to cs and education

[spiral crescent]

yeah

[muted shale]

seems cool

[spiral crescent]

wait how do i get image perms

[torn gyro]

gotcha tyty

uni what are your sstats btw/

[spiral crescent]

3.96 uw my school doesnt do weighted

1460

[torn gyro]

do you think i should submit a 1510 (i got into neu cs with it)

[spiral crescent]

hm

have u checked cds

i submitted my 1460 740 math 720 eng to all my schools

not all of them but most

wait ur in the range submit it 100%

[lusty shoal]

has anyone used a fee waiver

[spiral crescent]

i did

[lusty shoal]

not income based

[lusty shoal]

which one?

[torn gyro]

really?

[spiral crescent]

uhh

how do ik which one

[torn gyro]

i used the family situation one

[spiral crescent]

i got fee waivers for all my schools tho

same

[lusty shoal]

did u use any of these

[spiral crescent]

no

[lusty shoal]

im thinking of using this too

but i heard that they are picky

[spiral crescent]

i think its worth submitting

[lusty shoal]

theyactually like follow up

and ask

[spiral crescent]

do you need the fee waiver

[torn gyro]

i only used it because i'm applying to 40 collegees and ain't no way i'm paying 3k

[lusty shoal]

u need to be homeless or a victim of a natural disaster appearntly

[torn gyro]

gotcha tysm bro

congrats on umich again

[lusty shoal]

yea same i dont wanna pay

;sob

[spiral crescent]

well tbf my math score is only 10 points above urs and i got cs

so

[spiral crescent]

thank you i literally cried when i opened it lol

[torn gyro]

wait rlly?

[spiral crescent]

rooting for u

[torn gyro]

lol i was like that for neu too

[spiral crescent]

did u get into boston

[torn gyro]

yeah i did

[spiral crescent]

ooo nice

i got into oakland

[torn gyro]

i didn't get into the honors program tho

nice

[spiral crescent]

das ok

im just waiting for michigan fin aid

[lusty shoal]

thats what one person said

she used it

[torn gyro]

hoping you get the best

are you in state or oos

[spiral crescent]

oos

but neu gave me really good fin aid

[torn gyro]

ngl i'm just gonna use it

[spiral crescent]

so hopefully with need-based + merit i get enough

[lusty shoal]

ok good luck

[spiral crescent]

i used family situation one and they didnt ask any questions

[torn gyro]

umich gives merit?

[spiral crescent]

yeah

[lusty shoal]

fr?

fuck...

idk if i should use it

[spiral crescent]

can u afford it?

[lusty shoal]

i mean i can

but i think i have a legit excuse

[spiral crescent]

use it then

[lusty shoal]

my income isnt low enough for the fee waiver

[spiral crescent]

hmm

what r the options

[lusty shoal]

do you guys think ur parents retiring and having a massive income cut is a legit excuse

[spiral crescent]

also do u have fee waivers for other schools

yeah

[lusty shoal]

only for some

[spiral crescent]

i think so

u can say extenuating circumstances

[lusty shoal]

ok worst thing that can happen is them saying no and i pay later

it wont hurt to try

[torn gyro]

yeah just do it man

[lusty shoal]

ok abt to submit

[torn gyro]

what school did you do?

CoE?

[spiral crescent]

ya

[spiral crescent]

glll

[torn gyro]

i see i see

[barren flint]

When I went to submit the site was bugging and it went through a few minutes late. Would they still accept it? Idk what to do

[tribal kite]

yes

few minutes is fine

they're not that pedantic

[barren flint]

Ok phew

[latent flower]

I filled out my app for RD a few days ago and they are asking for an loci?

will it help if I submit it

[ripe temple]

If they are, then go for it

[empty axle]

is the first wave of early ross preferred admission coming out on this friday

[oak sand]

if i get deferred

and i applied for lsa cs advance selection

is there still a chance i get into CS in rd

[rose sentinel]

Yes because they defer everyone oos cause they never hire enough app readers so chances are they haven't even gotten to you yet

[lusty shoal]

Did anyone get their portal yet

[mental elk]

lmfao deadass??

thats so funny

[tribal kite]

they do that?

huh

💀

[lusty shoal]

Probably but they won’t admit it bc it’s embarrassing

[tribal kite]

idts ngl, i know like atleast 15 intls from my country admitted 💀

[lusty shoal]

Oh

[oak sand]

yeah

mich basically js reads as many as they can

then dumps the rest in regular

[meager moat]

bro loci is 250 words. tf shall i write in that

😭

might as well not write it

[ripe temple]

You can write a lot in 250 words.

You just gotta learn how to do it

[meager moat]

😔

what can i write in loci tho

i dont have any new updates

the only possible thing i wanna send them is improvised ec description

[ripe temple]

Improvised ex description?

[meager moat]

ill show u an example

one sec

[ripe temple]

The point of an LOCI is to show your continued interest in a college while also providing updates of what you've done between when you submitted your application and when you send the LOCI.

Anything like "a new description for your old ec" isn't really something for an LOCI

You can maybe provide an update to that EC if you did anything special though

[meager moat]

this is old one

this is new one

i mean yeah it still isnt impressive

but then

its far better than before

[wooden kettle]

Peer tutoring