University of Michigan (UMich) (2024-2025)

[latent flower]

i have friends whos in data science and still got internships at faangs and such

[keen warren]

Not really

It’s not the worst thing in the world tho

[tribal kite]

Im tryna go into ML, so DS + Math it is

[latent flower]

or even math + cs minor

depends on what type of ml

congrats!

[tawdry sandal]

gs

[latent flower]

if youre just looking to be a swe doing ml

frankly you just need to know how to code

[tribal kite]

Can u double major in cs if u dont get adv

[latent flower]

since all youre doing is cleaning data and building data pipelines lol

no

if youre looking to do ml research imo pure math is the way to go

[tribal kite]

im not tryna do pure SWE

prolly r&d ml at some company

[latent flower]

yeah if you wanna to research go to grad school

which in that case what they care most is your research experience and letter of recs

neither is bounded by the major you do

[signal crag]

We’re so cooked

[mystic ibex]

bro getting in as intl is kinda crazy gj

[latent flower]

What's umich ea acceptance rate

[civic orbit]

I just got accepted to UMich, does anyone know how they handle merit scholarships? Do I have to apply separately for those?

[mystic ibex]

They like

Don’t give them OOS

Like ever

[dawn basin]

oh, Is it very expensive for oos?

[latent flower]

nah

i got quite a few friends who got scholarship / aid as oos

[civic orbit]

Dang that sucks, I have a GI Bill, so I should be good for my first two years

[latent flower]

its certainly much rarer

but not impossible

i got a friend from MA whos here full ride

[barren stag]

80k or more

🤣🤣

[latent flower]

i think thers a scholarship profile that you can fill out

you can also look for local scholarships too

i remember hearing from someone who got a half ride from her local scholarship

yeah dont go into severe debt for college

[proud crow]

Who else got postponed

[civic orbit]

ooh okay, I’ll look for that!

[latent flower]

whatever extra benefit you get from going to a different school

[mystic ibex]

Well not with my income lol

[latent flower]

will likely not cover the extra cost you pay lol

[hoary bridge]

If u don’t get into advance selection cs can you still do cs eventually

[mystic ibex]

(350k)

[latent flower]

no

[mystic ibex]

I’m not good enough for merit either

Probably

[hoary bridge]

Damn

[latent flower]

but you can do ce / ds

which is very similar to cs in terms of coursework

[mystic ibex]

Wait did u get in

[latent flower]

yeah

[mystic ibex]

Brother

Why are you talking about this stuff and you haven’t even checked yet

[deep cradle]

[latent flower]

i know quite a few people with quant offers here

[signal crag]

dammmm

[latent flower]

imo for those firms

well

depends on what type of firms youre talking about

[proud crow]

Is postponed any different than deferred

[latent flower]

i got a friend from uc davis at citadel

[sage bear]

No

[mystic ibex]

I got in COE, doing CE, does that feed into like chip design companies(that’s what I wanna go into)

[latent flower]

michigan engineering will feed into just about anything

[tawdry sandal]

when u gonna check? just so i know when to check back here

[latent flower]

a lot of time

what really happens for recruiting is that

[hoary bridge]

Is there a published acceptance rate for advance selection cs?

[latent flower]

a school attracts a lot of talented people -> they land great jobs

[mystic ibex]

What do people usually do from ce though

[latent flower]

vs the school name getting them jobs

[mystic ibex]

Do you know

[ripe temple]

Have results been released?

[mystic ibex]

Yeah

[ripe temple]

Nice, who got in

[latent flower]

most of the classes i take overlap with ce

[mystic ibex]

I did

Which is cool

[latent flower]

im doing swe

[mystic ibex]

Wasn’t expecting it

[ripe temple]

Congrats, engineering or?

[latent flower]

id say depends a lot on what specialization you take

chip design certainly one of them

though id assume ee would be a better fit for that

embedded is probably a big one

a lot just go into swe too probably

[mystic ibex]

Yeah compe OOS

[tribal kite]

LSA has for intls, idk about oos

[mystic ibex]

I don’t think COE does

I’ve never heard of it anyways

[ripe temple]

Nice I'm CompE as well. If you decide to come here, we're pretty darn good in the CompE space

[echo night]

25% acceptance rate thats pretty solid chat

[latent flower]

michigan is known in just about any engineering discipline

[mystic ibex]

Yeah what jobs do CE majors usually do? Is it more hardware or software?

[latent flower]

its very solid

[ripe temple]

Gotta remember most people are not gonna say they get rejected

[mystic ibex]

Cause I know a lot of CE majors just end up doing SWE anyways

[tribal kite]

and this server is pretty skewed

[ripe temple]

Because CS has been restricted, majority often do the software side of things. CE is specifically great for a combination of both, or lower level software while designing hardware. Embedded Systems, Computer Architecture are great examples of this

[mystic ibex]

yeah I wanna do hardware design

so that's why I applied CE

[ripe temple]

We're definitely excellent for that.

[mystic ibex]

I might try to do a double major with physics

idk how that works

[ripe temple]

There's a ton of classes for hardware design

[latent flower]

theres engineering physics

which makes double majoring pretty easy

[ripe temple]

That's for losers though...

[mystic ibex]

idk how that's different from LSA physics though lol

presumably there's quite a few

[latent flower]

you can check the program guide online

the biggest benefit you get by doing engineering physics is that you dont need to do the lsa geneds

[ripe temple]

Google "UMich [Engineering major] course guide"

[tribal kite]

Can u dual major across colleges

[mystic ibex]

got it thanks

[ripe temple]

Yep, except for Ross

[latent flower]

yeah ive seen people make it to jane street here

though ill note that

[mystic ibex]

I put eng physics as a major I might wanna do on my app

[ripe temple]

And maybe another major

[tribal kite]

ooo

[mystic ibex]

cause I thought it was interesting

[latent flower]

though ill note that for any school

the school name only get you as far as getting the interview

after that its all up to you

[ripe temple]

Personally I don't recommend double majoring and just using the majority of your other time in developing your resume like doing our project teams, research, etc.

Or networking

[latent flower]

yeah i agree, double majoring is overrated

[mystic ibex]

valid that makes up sense yeah

[ripe temple]

All of that is far better than double majoring most of the time

[mystic ibex]

can I get a minor though

[latent flower]

i went from 2 major 2 minor -> single major

and just doing internships in my free time

[ripe temple]

I'm currently a lead for our project team and have done great thanks to such

[mystic ibex]

or would that be tough

[latent flower]

ayo what team

[tribal kite]

Im double majoring for the same of interest tho

[latent flower]

mrover?

[ripe temple]

MFly, used to be with MRover tho

[latent flower]

oh nice

[echo night]

im only double majoring because its stupid easy in my situation

[latent flower]

do you know jerry and cindy?

[ripe temple]

Yeeep

[echo night]

otherwise yeah i wouldnt have gone out of my way to double

[latent flower]

im on arv

[ripe temple]

Oh y'all are great. I joined y'all for my first semester but then got glazed by some MRover lead during my 2nd semester

[echo night]

i had three empty slots in schedule, adding finance double wouldve been five classes

so two classes over the summer to get a 2nd major seemed worth it

[latent flower]

ill also note that not all of your classes need to count towards a degree

if youre interested in a few classes

you can just take it

[mystic ibex]

wait bro

that's exactly what I wanna do

I put that as something of interest in my essay

[latent flower]

if a math minor is 5 classes and youre interested in 2

you dont need to do the 3 extra classes to get a math minor

you can just take the 2 classes and thats still perfectly fine

i see a lot of people fall into the trap of

[ripe temple]

You would definitely love them. They're a pretty small team that does a ton in autonomous vehicles.

Alternatively, feel free to join MFly

[latent flower]

"oh wait im interested in this class but that means im 2 classes away from x minor, then if i take that ill just me 1 class away from y minor"

and end up just taking a lot of random classes

[latent flower]

if you end up committing feel free to ask me more about it

[ripe temple]

Or, you know, commit with MFly instead

[mystic ibex]

yeah depends if I get gtech or if I get any aid

[ripe temple]

I mean I got a ton of aid, enough to go here for free, but I'm one of the lucky ones as an OOS. Considering you're OOS, unlikely to get the best aid unfortunately.

GaTech will be similar in aid to Michigan

[mystic ibex]

yeah I figured

[mystic ibex]

my family can handle tech tuition

prolly not mich at full price

[latent flower]

yeah dont go into huge debt for school

not worth it

[ripe temple]

Totally understandable

[mystic ibex]

so I'll hope but realistically won't be able to come

But I'm still glad I got in

[latent flower]

the effect college has on your future path is pretty overblown in here imo

obviously you can have more opportunities at certain school

[ripe temple]

When I got my results, I recall Buffalo being 11k, Bing being 15k, GaTech being 17k, Purdue being 30k, CCNY being -5k, and Michigan being free.

[latent flower]

but ultimately its up to you. college is just one stage of the many stages that youll have in life

[rose sentinel]

-5k x_x

But yeah mich is the obvious choice in that case

[ripe temple]

Gotta understand that I live near CCNY so I would've been a commuter

[rose sentinel]

Ooh

[ripe temple]

Hence why the refund

[rose sentinel]

But ngl mich > ccny especially considering the cost

[ripe temple]

Oh without a doubt. Unfortunately, I'll always love my home over AA

[rose sentinel]

Yeah lol

Hopefully I'll get in mich soon 🙏

[latent flower]

its always the matter of

[ripe temple]

You didn't get your results?

[latent flower]

is the extra cost worth it for the school

rip

[rose sentinel]

Nah they defer everyone

[rose sentinel]

defer

[latent flower]

well dont let your hopes down

[ripe temple]

Yeah, pretty normal. Expect RD to be a bloodbath

[rose sentinel]

My school counselor told me that getting a result as an oos student is impressive

[rose sentinel]

x_x

It's okay

UNC for the win

Thank God

I love unc so much now lol

[ripe temple]

Oooh you got into UNC?

[rose sentinel]

yep

I'm actually so relieved

[ripe temple]

Congrats, are you in state for them?

[rose sentinel]

Nope oos too

I was 100% expecting a rejection

So I was actually SHOCKED lol

[ripe temple]

What major are you doing? UNC is like very aid friendly for OOS

[rose sentinel]

Info sci

[ripe temple]

Probably the most aid friendly public university for OOS

[ripe temple]

Damn, if you said history or math or something I would've said UNC the obvious choice lmao

[signal crag]

we still got UW trusttt

[rose sentinel]

Yeah mich > unc but I'm happy with unc

[signal crag]

wait do they request those

[ripe temple]

Either way, massive congrats. Earned it well

[signal crag]

💀

FUCKKKKK

bro

i got a b- in AB first sem 💀

[latent flower]

if your goal is cs recruiting school name really doesnt matter that much

[signal crag]

We're just manifesting

[latent flower]

yeah purdue is perfectly fine

so is uw

[signal crag]

^

[latent flower]

i have friends at udub and theyre all doing great

[signal crag]

fireee

[ripe temple]

https://tenor.com/view/stink-stinky-eww-gross-disgusted-gif-17704588793983568874

[rose sentinel]

my mom went from "you're gonna get rejected uw" to "you're gonna get accepted northwestern" in the matter of 2 seconds today lol

[tribal kite]

Udub microsoft feeder. Trust.

[latent flower]

a lot

[ripe temple]

You still mentioned it

[latent flower]

cs recruiting is largely up to you

[signal crag]

bro what 😭

[rose sentinel]

Cause I got in UNC oos

And now

[ripe temple]

Gotta use those nepo connections

[latent flower]

i have friends whos jobless at like stanford / mit

[rose sentinel]

She's convinced I'm getting in every school

[signal crag]

!quant

[pure kraken]

Ding!

Looks like someone's brought up quant again!

I think it’d be better if you analyzed some grass instead.

Used 1790 times.

[latent flower]

no shame for that

[rose sentinel]

My mom fluctuates between "you're getting rejected uw" to "you're obviously getting in"

[latent flower]

use whatever method you have nowadays to get a job

[rose sentinel]

Nepo me on too 🙏

[mystic ibex]

bro that's actually crazy

everyone from my school got straight rejected

[latent flower]

just keep your humility

dont be a lil bitch and think youre better than others just because you get job offers

[mystic ibex]

yeah fr

[ripe temple]

Ngl come to Michigan and ask your mom to get me an internship 💀

[rose sentinel]

I only got global launch though lol and no honors

So like

Not that impressive lol

[fervent valve]

Anyone get into engineering oos?

[ripe temple]

Me

[mystic ibex]

I did

[ripe temple]

Like 2-3 years ago

[rose sentinel]

I'm actually happy cause I was convinced I was about to spend the entire weekend crying but I'm not and now I'm happily eating yogurt and granola

[fervent valve]

Ws

[mystic ibex]

you also get in?

[latent flower]

I got deferred

Womp

[mystic ibex]

damn what major bruv

[fervent valve]

Nah I got deferred

[latent flower]

Chemical

I probably wasn't gonna go here over USC anyways

[ripe temple]

Hopefully you applied to UDelaware

[latent flower]

Nope

[tawdry sandal]

UNC as in UNC Chapel Hill?

[rose sentinel]

Yep

[latent flower]

congrats

[tawdry sandal]

Nice one

[rose sentinel]

Thank youu

[tawdry sandal]

Good job

[latent flower]

unc is a great school

[rose sentinel]

Yeah it is I'm actually so happy

[ripe temple]

RIP, they're extremely good in that field

[rose sentinel]

One deferral one acceptance today I'm very very very pleased

[vital nova]

WOO!! USC! USC! USC!

[ripe temple]

https://tenor.com/view/unc-still-got-it-gif-6384030002593541773

[latent flower]

Well I'd rather go to a school that's good overall and in engineering overall

[rose sentinel]

Oh yeah I heard that too

Nah you'll get accepted

[mystic ibex]

no ur not bro

you'll probably get honors college

nah it's not that low lmfao

20% maybe

[ripe temple]

Asian?

Same thing

[rose sentinel]

filming yourself?

My umich reaction was: Hopeful -> annoyed

It was kinda funny lol

I feel like my reactions were so lowkey for both duke and umich x_x

Purdue I was in front of people so I reacted

For some reason I was talking during my unc video even though I was alone

So a bigger reaction for that one

[signal crag]

IK knew i was getting deffered from umich

so i just waited

refreshed and lcosed the page

[rose sentinel]

Yeah I was expecting a deferral

But poor me had so much hope in that video lol

[signal crag]

So i really didn't care

[ripe temple]

I'm ngl, I'm disappointed in this thread

[rose sentinel]

why lol

[ripe temple]

Imagine letting UIUC have more comments than us

[rose sentinel]

LOL

[ripe temple]

UIUC of all schools

[rose sentinel]

Mich > uiuc

[ripe temple]

Sure but we really let those hooligans have more discussions than us

[rose sentinel]

No trust I'm gonna talk more here now

Fat squirrel school > middle of nowhere school

[ripe temple]

They got fat squirrels too tbf

[crude nacelle]

what’s mich ranking for engineering

[rose sentinel]

Mich squirrels are better

[rose sentinel]

High

[crude nacelle]

Is it better than purdue and cornell

[rose sentinel]

Idk google it 😭

Probably not though

[mystic ibex]

Same tier

[deep cradle]

😡

[latent flower]

pick based on vibes

[rose sentinel]

Oh c'mon michigan has fat squirrels

[latent flower]

at this level the school doesnt actually matter

[rose sentinel]

I love fat squirrels ❤️

[dim geode]

michigan aura

[mystic ibex]

Where do I get a mich sweatshirt

Idk where to get an official one

[latent flower]

you buy it somewhere

[mystic ibex]

[latent flower]

they dont give free merch

[mystic ibex]

I’m ordering one

And I’m wearing it to school

[stiff dagger]

did anyone get accpeted

[mystic ibex]

I did

[scarlet heath]

Yeah

[uncut narwhal]

Yessir to Ross

[stuck breach]

Just got cooked 😔

[supple cypress]

anti anti squirrel feeding club member

[past goblet]

man i thought my stats were okay

deferral is sad

[marsh fox]

in or out of state

[past goblet]

out

[marsh fox]

yea

hard asl

[past goblet]

:(

[amber willow]

Thought my stats were good, I’m getting wrecked too 😭

[summer shore]

2 hour nap after Michigan deferral goes crazy

[past goblet]

highkey cooked for the rest of my decisions now

[formal steeple]

same

literally got rejected from unc idek what i can get into now 😭

[rose sentinel]

unc oos is hard

Seriously dw

[formal steeple]

not even a deferral tho straight up rejection

literally will kms if i have to go to ucsd

cuz i wanted to go 2000 miles away from my house

[rose sentinel]

It's an 8% acceptance rate oos so that's definitely reach level, like lower than some ivies' ED rates

[rose sentinel]

ucsd is so good though

Dw there's still plenty of chances for other schools

RD will clutch up trust

[formal steeple]

yeaa ik its super good but i live 15 mins away and i rlly rlly really hate cali :(

[rose sentinel]

Ouch I get it

Things will get better I promise, there's still so many chances for RD

I feel the same way about my state school (udub) so I get it

I know for a fact that if I end up going there I would be going home like daily and never leaving my comfort zone lol

[formal steeple]

thank u 😭 🫶

[barren stag]

Sigma

[wild pier]

bro how tf did my friend oos get in to CS w/out sending his sat score and mid ecs

[formal steeple]

were his ecs that mid 😭

or did u mean grades

[wild pier]

lmao my bad

[empty axle]

i got in

[barren stag]

goodjob

[empty axle]

thanks

[tawdry sandal]

holistic!!

[wild pier]

yea but he has nothing

his essays were mid as hell

mid ecs and essays

[tawdry sandal]

hmm

makes me feel hopeful!

what are you guys putting in your loci?

[rose sentinel]

I'm gonna write about a few awards I got, this presentation thingy I led, and some other minor activities

Nothing big

[tawdry sandal]

are you going to write why you're interested in umich and so forth or just adding on ecs?

[crude nacelle]

i swear it’s all in the essays

[rose sentinel]

I'll add stuff about umich too

[crude nacelle]

i got in but im like middle percentile probably

[distant mica]

Should be a mix of both

[scarlet heath]

It also helps if you have a really unique vision or end goal

[tawdry sandal]

what were ur stats?

[crude nacelle]

34act 3.7UW

[tawdry sandal]

oo

[crude nacelle]

Lowkey really mid ECs

But i was super passionate about robotics

[tawdry sandal]

good act, gpa is a bit low sadly considering how comp schools are but my gpa is a 3.7 uw too

yeah essays are really big

[tawdry sandal]

yah showing passion is good

what major did u get into

[crude nacelle]

Engineering

Meche

I was glazing kinda hard

Reasonably so

[scarlet heath]

Yeah they fw that passion shit hella n shit

[wild pier]

Ey good shit what school

[rigid socket]

got in:)

[wild pier]

What gpa?

[mystic terrace]

I got deferred😔

[wild pier]

Bruh

[barren stag]

below average my ass

💀

[wild pier]

Smh

[fallen crow]

Same I’m about to tweak out

[barren stag]

why do people needa say their stats bro

just say i got accepted 😭

sorry i meant

[wild pier]

I asked

[barren stag]

why do ppl need to ask*

💀

[wild pier]

Because he said low gpa or wtv 💀

[barren stag]

college admissions are luck

[fallen crow]

I think I’m outta luck

[barren stag]

50% chance

for each school

[cobalt smelt]

Just submitted the RD last week and got a letter today : We are certain we have enough information at this time to make a decision.

However, if you would like to communicate your continued interest in the University of Michigan, let us know of new achievements/awards, and/or share any additional information, please fill out the Expression of Continued Interest (ECI) form. If you choose to submit this form, it must be submitted by March 1.

is this like a glitch from their part?

[tawdry sandal]

maybe its

waitlist

[distant fulcrum]

How is the cs recruiting at Umich given the current cs market ?

[hybrid flicker]

Can a mod make a poll in here for the accepted kids to ask what college they were

[echo night]

moderators mentioned

i wont ping people for the poll but if you give me a list of umich colleges ill make it

[uncut narwhal]

Ross, LSA, Engineering

What else

“At Michigan, you don’t apply to the university – you apply to one of our 14 undergraduate schools and colleges, depending on whether you are a first-year or transfer student: Architecture & Urban Planning; Art & Design; Business; Dental Hygiene; Education; Engineering; Information; Kinesiology; Literature, Science, and the Arts (LSA); Music, Theatre & Dance; Nursing; Pharmacy; Public Health; and Public Policy.”

Also: If anyone is applying RD and wants help I can try

[hybrid flicker]

Nah I meant the main three

[hybrid flicker]

• LSA
• engineering
• Ross/business
• others

[wintry mountain]

Comp eng

[past goblet]

i liked my essays but maybe they didnt

ok wait genuinely how cooked am i chat 4.0 uw, 1570 sat, super mid awards mostly all state stuff except one natl research conference i was invited to present at, and decent but not exceptional ecs

[barren stag]

how would we know

bro

calm tf down

😭

[past goblet]

sorry i desperately need some validation

[whole vale]

It’s okay bro just be patient

What major

[past goblet]

bme

[whole vale]

Nice

[distant creek]

bro ur cooking

[echo night]

@hybrid flicker

[distant creek]

engineering about to be 80%

unless cs is not in engineering

[echo night]

tmk it is

[barren stag]

"guys i just need some validation"

[echo night]

but ross is quite popular amongst the kids who know better than to do cs

[barren stag]

💀

[whole vale]

Rip cs 💀

I’m cs

[barren stag]

they need validation

!!

[distant creek]

ur github is wild

[echo night]

uh oh i forgor to add others

[distant creek]

does it matter

[echo night]

too late now so not really

[distant creek]

ross and engineering are top 2

and ross at best is prob 20-25%

[hybrid flicker]

Tysmm

yeah i think its fine

[past goblet]

ong

[whole vale]

Oh wdym

[distant creek]

i dont think i seen that many contributions from a high school kid that uses github

u have passion for it im assuming

[whole vale]

Oh lmao ye
Tons of projects

Honestly I just want a good environment college

Deferred everywhere rn but :/

[barren stag]

hey if i have 2400 sat 5.0 gpa and solved cancer am i cooked?

I just need some validation

[past goblet]

you might be cooked bro

[barren stag]

ok thats what i thought

im gonna go on r/chanceme now

[distant creek]

wait i just realized ur a junior

why u worrying now

[barren stag]

wait they are a junior

OH HELL NAH

[whole vale]

Oh nah wait that true

[past goblet]

no im not

[distant creek]

look at ur role

[whole vale]

ohh ok I was about to say

change it

[past goblet]

oh shoot i joined this when i was a jr and never changed it

how do you change it

did it work

[whole vale]

Ye

[past goblet]

ok jokes aside its lowkey fun to scroll thru

[gleaming rock]

omg i thought u were this guy ik at umich who’s been MIA for like a year

cos same pfp

[uncut narwhal]

Similar to me stats wise

[gleaming rock]

idt national is super mid awards lol

like super is a bit of a stretch

[uncut narwhal]

I got into Ross. 4.0 uw 1590, had state and international business comp awards & good but not amazing ecs

[gleaming rock]

i feel like international business comp awards r amazing ecs

is that just me 😭

[idle sigil]

i have a question. i got into umich eng but i also ed2 vanderbilt.. im not sure if i would take vandy over umich. is there a way for me to change to rd for vandy?

[gleaming rock]

yeah

it’s through the portal i think

most colleges let u change ur app decision

[idle sigil]

ok cool thanks

[past goblet]

not super mid but like relative to rlly competitive applicant pools i think they are

[gleaming rock]

congrats on mich!! very comp this yr

[idle sigil]

thank you!

[tawdry sandal]

pretty sure you can either change it or you withdraw

and then reapply under rd

[idle sigil]

shitt nvm

it says 2 weeks after ed2 u can make changes

which is on the 15tg

[dusky inlet]

how comp was it this year

[gleaming rock]

very

[gleaming rock]

oop

[gleaming rock]

well

compared to an IMO medalist

everyone is mid

[tawdry sandal]

oh ok then just wait

or can u not withdraw?

[gleaming rock]

i wouldn’t say u should see ur awards in comparison to the top of the top

like the ppl going to harvard or smth

[idle sigil]

oh i could withdraw still

[urban compass]

got in! does anyone know what the chances are of not getting advanced selection for CS once you are accepted to CoE (super scared abt this)

[gleaming rock]

uh

[tawdry sandal]

good stuff

[gleaming rock]

did u apply cs

[urban compass]

yea

[gleaming rock]

ur prolly fine then??

[tawdry sandal]

oh ok so u have to wait a bit?

[gleaming rock]

congrats btw

cs/coe was insanely comp

knew some pretty crazy ppl who didn’t get in

[urban compass]

yes but you have to get into the advanced selection thing which theyll notify you abt a few days later

[idle sigil]

wdym?

[gleaming rock]

ahh

u got it

[mystic ibex]

wait somehow

[gleaming rock]

should be fine if u applied cs tbh

[mystic ibex]

I forgot you were on here

[tranquil saffron]

gl on the homeless shelter bud

[mystic ibex]

uh like basically nil

I've seen it happen for LSA before

[gleaming rock]

LOL

[mystic ibex]

but never COE

[gleaming rock]

hi bro

[urban compass]

wait thats good to hear i was super scared

[meager moat]

congrats to everyone who got in yall

[mystic ibex]

COE's already mad comp OOS

so you're chilling

[gleaming rock]

real lol

[past goblet]

nah dw im not a cs major

[urban compass]

yipee

[past goblet]

(im joking, no hate to all the cs majors here)

[tawdry sandal]

nvm nvm

[mental dome]

Bro thank goodness for UMich in state 🙏

Idk if I woulda gotten in OOS ngl

[mystic ibex]

got in COE, 4.0 1590 as well, international eng comp awards + app dev and stuff

[scarlet heath]

Me too 😭😭😭

[mystic ibex]

it is kinda random

at some point though

[urban compass]

haha im a CA resident so i have plenty of in state options but theyre all so difficult

[mystic ibex]

like hella cracked people got deferred

[gleaming rock]

congrats 🎊

[dire palm]

looks like we gonna be praying for the in states 🙏

[mental dome]

If you’re from CA you really don’t have that many target UMich level options

[scarlet heath]

In state u mich is a blessing

[dire palm]

berk la sd

[urban compass]

true true umich mogs every UC besides berk la and sd imo

[gleaming rock]

real omg

[mystic ibex]

nah mich craps on SD

[echo night]

i feel its on par with those three though

[mystic ibex]

Well not if you're instate

cause of tuition

but like if you're OOS I'd say Berk > LA > Mich > SD

[mental dome]

I did manage to become a certified unc today too but like my entire friend group got Mich so I prolly wouldn’t go to UNC

[whole vale]

Lolll

[meager moat]

mich>sd despite the hugeee costs??

[mystic ibex]

bro UNC is crazy everyone I know got rejected

[meager moat]

oh are they same cost for oos

[mystic ibex]

SD is also mad expensive right

isn't every UC

yeah

I think so

[mental dome]

Are you OOS

[meager moat]

then valid

[tawdry sandal]

did u get in?

[mystic ibex]

yeah

[tawdry sandal]

or defer

[mystic ibex]

I didn't apply myself though

to UNC

[dire palm]

defer

[mental dome]

Lmao yeah idt anyone in my school applied UNC ngl 😭

[mystic ibex]

bro one of my friends has been going through it

[urban compass]

~35k vs ~80k before aid is a huge diff tho

[mystic ibex]

cornell defer

[mental dome]

I also got Honors Carolina but idk the exact criteria for it

[mystic ibex]

purdue defer

[mental dome]

My mom says UNC only cares about stats so

[mystic ibex]

villanova accept and then UNC reject

[mystic ibex]

is the 35k in state or OOS

[flat crater]

You’re cooked just give up at this point

[mystic ibex]

talking about OOS specifically

[mental dome]

My stats are my main strong suit hence why I’d be cooked OOS for Mich

OOS is a bloodbath

[mystic ibex]

yeah dunno how I got in tbh

[mental dome]

I go to a Mich feeder and it was lowkey still a bloodbath

[hybrid flicker]

in states were also deferred heavy

[urban compass]

35k is in state for UCs w like living costs tacked on id say, tuition itself is less than half of that

[hybrid flicker]

20 in state deferred

and 5 accepted so far

[mystic ibex]

Oh I was specifically talking about OOS

[hybrid flicker]

4 lsa, 1 ross

[mystic ibex]

not if you're in state

[past goblet]

anyone have tips for the loci

[mystic ibex]

if you're in state just go to any UC over mich tbh

[gleaming rock]

not in srate

[flat crater]

What’s that

[mental dome]

Ngl in state Ross is kinda a risky move lol

[past goblet]

letter of continued interest

[mental dome]

Cuz it goes from a reasonable target-ish school to a mega reach

[flat crater]

If you have a 4.0 gpa and 1570 sat don’t even bother

[mental dome]

Nah do it

Lol

[mystic ibex]

bro mich is NOT easy OOS

[mental dome]

They care about you caring about them

[flat crater]

They will be interested in you unless you capping

[past goblet]

yeah i think im gonna do it 💀

[tawdry sandal]

whats the hardest school for oos

anybody know

[mystic ibex]

nah plenty of people from my school with 35+/1550+ got deferred and crap

[dire palm]

ut austin from the public schools prolly

[mystic ibex]

Depends on major I think

[dire palm]

true

[flat crater]

UT maybe

[mystic ibex]

I've seen people get deferred from mich but get austin for like aerospace

[tawdry sandal]

interestingg interestingg

[flat crater]

Michigan that hard ?

[dire palm]

i mean the process is randomized

so theres no correlation

[mystic ibex]

OOS? Yes

[mystic ibex]

yeah true

[dire palm]

in my school the amount of people that have gotten into mich all time is less than 10

and the highest weighted g pa from that is a 4.3

[flat crater]

What’s oos again

[dire palm]

sats are always 1500+ though

[flat crater]

Oh

Out of state

[mental dome]

OOS?

[flat crater]

Mb

[past goblet]

damn thats p low

[dire palm]

ya

[past goblet]

is that on a 5.0 scale or

[dire palm]

i mean its hard to have like 4.7 or 4.8 at my school cuz theres no honors courses

[mental dome]

My school is a feeder so we send like 80 total per year 😭

[dire palm]

and in 9th u cant take weighteds

so 4.5-4.6 something is like the highest u can have 9-12

[past goblet]

at my school the max is 4.67 which is the weighting of an ap course and we cant take aps freshman yr

its a very strange system

[scarlet heath]

What’s the class size

[mystic ibex]

we can take two APs freshman year(CSP and world history) and one soph year(CSA)

[plush tangle]

my school has insane gpa inflation cuz we can take so many weighted courses over teh summer

I think the valedictorian has like a 4.9 something

[tawdry sandal]

how many ap scores did you guys send in for schools

[past goblet]

9 iirc

[uncut narwhal]

Eh it’s good but not amazing

[barren stag]

🤓

^

[mental dome]

Uh like 400 or smth

[empty axle]

365

[mental dome]

Oh thank you

LMAO

Hi polarbear

[empty axle]

hi lemon

😁

[wispy turret]

just got deferred and am driving 9 hours tmr to campus tour

i cant cope

[urban compass]

why did you do this to yourself

[tawdry sandal]

play some pop smoke or sum

while driving

[wispy turret]

character development

[tawdry sandal]

man said character development

😭

[sullen aspen]

guys i can't believe it

[supple girder]

I didnt get an email???

[uncut narwhal]

Same

[tawdry sandal]

u got in?

gs bro

[tawdry sandal]

have u checked yet

supposedly people who got in didnt get an email

[sullen aspen]

thanks i'm so shocked

[tawdry sandal]

what major?

[sullen aspen]

undecided but likely something bio-related in LSA

[fallen crow]

I got defered with stats similar to that

[tawdry sandal]

awesome

[supple girder]

postponed

is postponed deferred??

[tawdry sandal]

i think this further proves that essays are big

i guess they really are holistic

[tawdry sandal]

yah

[sullen aspen]

i think i got carried by FG and geographic residence cause my sat wasn't that good

[supple girder]

well atleast umich is unique with their wording 💀

[summer shore]

Yeah my essays were mid and I got deferred

[tawdry sandal]

what was ur sat, like a 1450 or something?

[sullen aspen]

1420

[summer shore]

Should my LOCI be stuff I’ve done since applying and also establishing fit with things that I haven’t previously mentioned?

[tawdry sandal]

oo gives me hope

actually nto really

[sullen aspen]

did you do RD?

[tawdry sandal]

a 1340 is too low

😭

[tawdry sandal]

ea --> deferred

[sullen aspen]

oh

good luck

my reading score was super good so maybe that helped but my math was below 25th percentile

[tawdry sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-guy-in-car-sad-car-guy-meme-gif-5898137373095588042

[sullen aspen]

just gotta hope i can afford it

[tawdry sandal]

i hope you get good aid

is um top for you?

[sullen aspen]

it's so tempting to just commit rn but that's unwise and i have to wait for my aid package

[sullen aspen]

yeah it's my dream school

[tawdry sandal]

i'd wait

do u have any other schools coming

[sullen aspen]

udub is the last one

all schools i applied to were public OOS

[supple girder]

bad choice for aid 💀
congrats on umich

[dusky inlet]

bro i accidentally put my parents education level as way lower than it is

am i cooked

i just emailed them

[tawdry sandal]

what did u put

like hs grad?

[dusky inlet]

yeah

[tawdry sandal]

so ur gonna be first gen

basically

[dusky inlet]

yeah but it doesnt even match up with their occupation

so idk

i just emailed them

[tawdry sandal]

colleges like to brag about hwo many first gens they accept

[dusky inlet]

u cant be a doctor without going to school though

i dunno

hopefully they dont rescind

[tawdry sandal]

LOL

wait

did u get into umich?

[dusky inlet]

yes bro

but now im confused asl

idk why i didnt get fact checked yet

[tawdry sandal]

o shoot

uhh

thats kinda bad

im sure they'll understand

[frigid apex]

is postponed means defer?

[amber willow]

how bad are engineering oos acceptance rates?

[scarlet heath]

Yes

[mystic ibex]

Yeah I got in but no email

[civic orbit]

For added perspective, I did get in, but I did also receive an email.

[meager moat]

did any intls get in?

[tawdry sandal]

oop

myth busted!

[tawdry sandal]

yah 2

maybe more

[meager moat]

oo i see

[summer shore]

Do RD decisions come out in waves?

[safe fjord]

The website says somewhere that if you open your decision before they send the email, then they just won't send one

[hybrid flicker]

Wdym

[mental dome]

Cuz in state for a lot of competitive applicants, LSA could be a target

Applying Ross is just risking not getting in

Idk

[outer mural]

does umich also post the square for RD

[safe fjord]

no i don't think so

[outer mural]

🤧

would’ve been a good heads up

[tawdry sandal]

o

ok

[primal crow]

they sent it to me at 1:42am even tho i opened at 1:30

[urban compass]

^^

this is true

I only got the one abt accepted student orientation

[crude nacelle]

Wait do i have to do anything about my acceptance

For purdue i had to like make a whole different @purdue.edu account and shi

[mystic ibex]

Oh gotcha

[safe fjord]

I was wondering the same thing, I don't see it anywhere in the portal

edit: it says on their website "UM-Ann Arbor students receive an email invitation to set up their uniqname after they confirm their admission and their enrollment deposit is received or waived."

[empty axle]

is ross preferred admission just anytime from early to mid feb

[wintry mountain]

Ngl mich might be actually viable depending on how lucky I get with aid

[compact mist]

lol i gaslit myself into applying for Ross as OOS

[mystic ibex]

Bro no way we’re getting jack

Well at least I’m not

[wintry mountain]

I reran the npc with updated financials and it gave me a final price of $25k/year

[mystic ibex]

Not sure what your income is

[wintry mountain]

Which still sucks but I could get lucky

[mystic ibex]

Oh damn srsly

I got 0

[wintry mountain]

Rip 😭

[mystic ibex]

Whats ur family’s income

[wintry mountain]

I don't fully know, but definitely upper middle class

Like $150k-$200k

[mystic ibex]

Wait how’d u do the net price calc then

Oh gotcha

[wintry mountain]

I have 8 siblings and three others in college next year though lol

[mystic ibex]

I have

0 aid

So mich prolly isn’t viable

Gtech better clutch up

[wintry mountain]

That's unfortunate :(

Yeah I'm hoping for gtech as well since they have a lab I really like

[supple girder]

8 siblings???? Damn thats wild 💀

[fringe tangle]

for harvard maybe

[fringe tangle]

should i blackmail my umich ao by threatening to become an ohio state fan

[supple girder]

Yes
100% guaranteed admission

They cant watch students succumb to the enemy

[fringe tangle]

ill tell them that michigan state and ohio state already admitted me

(lie)

[supple girder]

Lmao same
And waffle msu’s 10k scholarship in front of them (not lie)

[tribal kite]

Prolly why i got in

[tribal kite]

I saw someone had around 2k commits

💀💀

[supple girder]

First acceptance as umich? Damn congrats

[tribal kite]

Yessir 🔥🔥 so thankful i know im going somewhere

[supple girder]

Got any scholarship?

[jagged osprey]

got into umich!! :D

[barren stag]

congrats

[safe dragon]

What we’re the admissions statistics for EA?

[urban raptor]

gott deffered

that means its pretty much a rejection in RD right

[barren stag]

no?

deferred means u got moved to rd

😭

[urban raptor]

Yeah but I feel it's just gonna end up with a rejection

From what I've seen

[rose sentinel]

For UMich they defer like everyone so it's normal

[lean ibex]

wtf is the point of applying to umich ea

[tribal kite]

its good if u want to do CS advance selection i think

[ripe temple]

Nope

It doesn't matter for that

It might affect if you're thinking Ross

[tribal kite]

oo

[ripe temple]

If you do get admitted to Michigan EA, there's the chance of you being considered for certain scholarships

[tribal kite]

i hope they get me to cs adv seletcion 🙏🏼

[lean ibex]

what about for intls

[tribal kite]

u got in ea?

[lean ibex]

no

[ripe temple]

I mean internationals can still get some scholarships, albeit a lot less compared to domestic, but there still are. Doesn't mean you'll get them though nor will it likely put a good amount on international tuition

That said, if you didn't get in EA, scholarship consideration is pretty much lucked out

[lean ibex]

do you think umich is worth paying about 20k/yr more for compared to something like umd / uw madison / udub for electrical engineering @ripe temple

considering i can pay for the tuition

[crude nacelle]

When do these come out

what’s udub

[lean ibex]

university of washington

[crude nacelle]

nvm i looked it up

[lean ibex]

same with umich no?

[crude nacelle]

why is that the name

😭💀

[lean ibex]

i didnt know udub had that pre major thing

[lean ibex]

W

[crude nacelle]

oh

my first thought was university of dublin or something

[lean ibex]

its also called uw but i like to call it udub

i think uw madison is also called uw

yeah

[ripe temple]

I mean, it depends on what you can afford comfortably on and if it's a school you really believe you can vibe with

That said, in terms of ROI, idt Michigan is worth 20k more. UMD and UDub are both excellent schools for EE

[ripe temple]

If you don't see it on your aid package or any updates over time, chances are it's too late. Also be sure to look at the scholarship office of the college you get into to see if new student scholarship apps are coming up

[supple girder]

So being deferred to rd means no chance of scholarships right? Debating whether to actually send an loci or withdraw (cant afford umich without any scholarships)

[urban raptor]

Did any oos get accepted

[urban raptor]

UW is like 2% acceptance rate for me

[lean ibex]

cs?

[urban raptor]

CS and CE

I went for CE

But 2% for oos

If your in state then it's like 30%

[tribal kite]

Nah thats UWM

[urban raptor]

Anyone with test optional and oos who got in?

[safe fjord]

saw someone on reddit who did i think

[agile shore]

i did & i was test optional

[urban raptor]

amazing! gl at umich

[scarlet heath]

They care about essays a lot

[civic orbit]

I did!

[civic orbit]

Also me here

[obtuse merlin]

how hard is it to get into umich after a defferal

[inland yarrow]

about as hard as RD

which mostly doesnt matter except for ross

[obtuse merlin]

wsg bro

[inland yarrow]

lol

[obtuse merlin]

oh i did lsa

[inland yarrow]

yeah ima apply LSA CS for regular

cuz i like the LSA prompts better

[inland yarrow]

u shouldve applied ECE

engineering admissions at udub is like 43%

and then u do entry to a major or whtv

[cinder sparrow]

is this supposed to be there for people who applied rd 😭

[distant mica]

No only deferred should be sending LOCI

[fiery dock]

thank you for not revealing my name

[fiery dock]

i applied rd and got this mail

[distant mica]

They messed something up

[urban raptor]

Wild.

What were your EC's like?

But im kinda international since im just a citizen

i might not be considered as domestic but who knows

[supple girder]

Is a LOCI required? Is it a disadvantage to not send one? I dont rlly have anything additional to add

[supple girder]

I’m a citizen living internationally. Classified as oos (domestic) in all the unis i applied to so should be the same for umich

[fiery dock]

guys

does me g4etting this letter

should make me optimistic

?

or is it just error

[civic orbit]

My ECs were really the only strong part about my application.

I had about 600 volunteer hours with a library affiliated volunteer organization + I co-lead the group. Then I also do some volunteer journalism for an online organization with about 18 published articles through their main page. (I applied to LSA)

Then ofc I had a bunch of clubs and groups through my school

[scarlet heath]

probably just error dont dwell on the small things

[outer mural]

Would someone be willing to read my UMich Community essay? I’m stuck on one part whether it’s allowed or not!

😢

[empty axle]

what do u mean allowed

I mean u could write anything just make sure it doesnt rub off the wrong way or make u sound like a bad person

[outer mural]

For the broader community prompt, I mentioned two communities

And idk if i’m answering the prompt if i do

[empty axle]

ohhhhh

[empty axle]

okay im willing to read it and give feedback

[fringe tangle]

i mean it says Choose one of the communities to which you belong, and describe that community and your place within it.

so i wouldnt put more than one

they want one community with more detail

[outer mural]

actually you’re right, back to the drawing board!! thank u tho

[glad cargo]

@mystic ibex yo,
got accepted?

3A, W

[fringe tangle]

my friend who got into umich last year from my school sent me her why us and it made me feel better about my why us

so maybe there is hope

because she told me she wrote it in 2 hours

[gleaming rock]

ya he got in

he said above

[empty axle]

yeah i got in but rereading my essys most of it was like gibberish idek how the aos could even understnad what I was trying to say

[sullen aspen]

i wrote it in like the same amount of time and got in too

i only talked about like one program

[mystic ibex]

Yeah I got in

You?

[ripe temple]

Where are you getting that data?

Oh wait you're talking about UW nvm

[mystic ibex]

Umich COE OOS is prolly under 10% though right

[safe fjord]

the CoE website says overall is 13%, so OOS is probably somewhere around 10%

[ripe temple]

We know overall it's currently 13%. They don't release that data but we can assume it's definitely lower than 13%

[fringe tangle]

hopefully lsa odds are better

would it be a fumble to mention ao3 in my essay

[glad cargo]

W, congrats

[glad cargo]

didnt apply, gap year

[mystic ibex]

Thanks goat

[mystic ibex]

They are

[mystic ibex]

Nah show your personality

[glad cargo]

which are the other 2 you got into?

[mystic ibex]

Purdue FYE and rutgers

[glad cargo]

damn, W

when are uiuc and gatech results?

[mystic ibex]

This friday

Idk about gatech man

Ngl

[glad beacon]

when does umich release cs advanced selection?

[mystic ibex]

I think within 10 days

[gleaming rock]

u got it

[mystic ibex]

If you got COE you’ll probably get CS

But I’ve heard of LSA people getting deferred from CS before

[mystic ibex]

🤞

[glad beacon]

oh i see

thank u

[gleaming rock]

yo mg ur record is CLEAN

[mystic ibex]

It’s only 3 schools

[gleaming rock]

how many do u have left

[mystic ibex]

12

[gleaming rock]

i wanna end up positive #valorant but ik it won’t happen

[mystic ibex]

I decided to apply to stevens institute as another safety

[gleaming rock]

going positive would mean getting into every safety target and like 3 reaches

[mystic ibex]

Going positive for me would mean

Sweeping my earlies

And getting stevens

[gleaming rock]

fr

[mystic ibex]

Well the hardest early I got I think

Or maybe mich and gatech are same difficulty

[gleaming rock]

lowk tho im kinda cooked

[mystic ibex]

Idk

[gleaming rock]

i have no motivation

and i have another performance to play tmr

[upbeat marsh]

not that school 😭

[mystic ibex]

Just keep your grades up

[gleaming rock]

why did u apply to another safety

[mystic ibex]

Bro they give good merit money

[gleaming rock]

after getting mich

[mystic ibex]

My parents want me to apply to another school closer to home

[mental dome]

Lmao lowkey I think the hardest early I got into was UNC

😭

[gleaming rock]

ohh

[upbeat marsh]

i hate that school, they freaking waitlisted me 💀

[mystic ibex]

Everyone from my school who applied UNC got rejected UNC

[mental dome]

I'm in state UMIch so it wasn't like crazy