University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) (2024-2025)

[subtle venture]

uiuc senpai please take me

[earnest forge]

oh interesting comp e + semiconductor major makes sense then

i see gl with them them

Gies has a lot of cool stuff going on rn

[slate socket]

yeah CE is lowkey the move

[honest trench]

so valid

i saw CS acceptance rates and said hell nah

plus i prefer hardware way more

[swift mica]

i chose material science 💀

i somewhat want to get into the research field tho

[vocal socket]

I shadowed some MS research and it was low key interesting af

I'm a ☢️ though

[swift mica]

i did a summer program on semiconductor materials and device eng
they exposed us to both the EE and MSE sides

but even though the MSE side looks cancer af, i kinda wanna do maybe something meaningful in my life instead of slaving away for some billionare ig in a sense

so i guess research ish is a slightly better fit for me

which is what mse kinda mainly is

[vocal socket]

i was at a corpo lab LOL

[swift mica]

o lol

i was at a uc

[vocal socket]

have you heard of DARPA

[swift mica]

yup

[vocal socket]

yesssssssssssirrrrrrrrr

[swift mica]

did u need security clearance or something lol

[vocal socket]

for mine?

no mine wasnt at darpa LOL

i had to sign an NDA though

[swift mica]

oh lol

wonder if the nda prohibited u from declaring u shadowed someone on college apps 💀

[vocal socket]

i was able to say i did

[swift mica]

lol

[vocal socket]

but i dont think i can talk about what i was looking at

[swift mica]

makes sense

[vocal socket]

low k didnt read it

just signed lOL

[swift mica]

💀

[subtle venture]

me too and i have an internship at a mechatronics/robotics lab so its not like i dont have a profile in compE

the thing holding me back from applying as a compE major are my ass chem and physics grades

[earnest forge]

mse is also good for that. my friend was able to get research as a freshman for mse

[earnest forge]

there is no chem requirement for compe. there is 1.5 years of physics classes though and they arent easy if you havent taken physics before

[subtle venture]

i mean i have

[earnest forge]

ap physics c?

the required ones are mechanics. e&m, quantum, thermodynamics

[swift mica]

dam 👏
if i get in (praying ngl) do u think i could ask ur friend some questions?

one thing that might hold me back is i didnt do ap chem (only honors in 10th grade and i didnt enjoy it that much)

i tend to enjoy physics more (p much aced p1, taking c rn) and based off the stuff from my summer program the i guess semic side of research is more physics based

[earnest forge]

yeah probably

[hardy geyser]

Chancing ain’t allowed

[spring cipher]

mb

[mint marsh]

uiuc let me in

!

[uncut pasture]

do you know the process for switching from CS+Linguistics or Mathematics (LAS) to CE? i already have 5s on both AP Physics C and AP Chemistry, credit for calc3/diffeq, and i plan on taking more physics/math

[earnest forge]

just try to get all As and you should be fine

getting a 5 in physics is great bcs you wont have to do physics here lol

[uncut pasture]

yeah but i wanna take advanced mechanics, QM, and electrodynamics

also do i even have to switch

i could theoretically just petition a double degree right?

[earnest forge]

yeah possibly with cs but with comp e I cant reccomend getting a double degree

[hidden scarab]

anyone applying to gies @ uiuc

[rare badger]

I agree with @earnest forge , compe has a harsh course requirement that just sinks so much of your time like CS/ECE 374, ECE 385, ECE 391, or optionally ECE 411

[forest walrus]

is ds plus astro hard??

[rare badger]

my current schedule is ECE 385 (FPGA Class), ECE 408 (GPU class), CS 440 (AI class), CS 445 (Comp Photography), and ECE 298 (Semiconductor seminar), I get like 3 hrs of sleep per day

[glossy thicket]

Is it possible to do a cs plus physics double degree?

[earnest forge]

yeah lol as a freshmean I was super ambitious thinking of all the majors/minors I could do and then after that year I was hell no lol

[earnest forge]

yes

ik someone doing it

or actually its cs+physics minor

but double degree is possible

[glossy thicket]

If I don't have any decent ap scores (cs 5, physics c mechanics 4, calc bc 4 (ab subscore 5), taking physics electromagnetism and stats this year probably), is it still possible to finish in 4 years?

[glossy thicket]

Can I double count common courses?

[earnest forge]

standard cs curriculum with proffing some of the basic courses is 3-3.5 years so possibly could be doable in 4.

[earnest forge]

im not sure youll have to check the rules on that ive recently heard they changed it

[glossy thicket]

Aight thank you

[tender nymph]

gies gods please let me in 🙏

[hidden scarab]

amen

[rare badger]

Gies is making a new building on Campus, i believe it is going to open next semester ish

[tender nymph]

yes i have heard it looks nice

[royal fractal]

!uiuc

[light pasture]

Does uiuc have grade deflation

[sharp dragon]

hello chat

[crude violet]

wdym by that?

[hardy geyser]

Depends on compared to what

[hardy geyser]

Like is it hard to get a 4.0 at uiuc compared to X

[crude violet]

i see

[crude violet]

depends on major as well

[light pasture]

for cs+x or any eng major

[crude violet]

cs+x shouldn't be that bad from what ive seen
eng is going to be hard here though

[light pasture]

tyy

[crude violet]

np

[iron aspen]

what school is econ in

i want to do a econ minor but seeing that CE courseload is cooked idk

[rare badger]

LAS

[tardy stirrup]

UIUC cs rd anyone's gotten through?

[iron aspen]

2 people

[finite spindle]

hey how easy is it to transfer from a humanities program at uiuc to cs?

[tardy stirrup]

☠️ fr?

[low hazel]

not easy

[iron aspen]

its not easy

like its really hard

[tardy stirrup]

Cs+x? And how cracked were they

If you know

[iron aspen]

idk

[crude violet]

Transferring into Grainger CS is no longer allowed

[uncut pasture]

i assume they mean to CS+X

[subtle venture]

GUYS

AM I COOKED

I REALIZED I PUT A CLASS ON THE SRAR TWICE

💀

it shouldnt be a major error i think

i emailed them just in case

hopefully nothing comes of it

otherwise i might be cooked

[iron aspen]

gg

[silent hazel]

put the fries in the bag bro 🍟 /j

[honest trench]

you forgot being placed on an fbi list

[copper sedge]

Hola chat

[unique axle]

It’s fine just call them

I put AP macro as a full year class instead of half a semester

And realized it after I got admitted

So I just called and they sorted it pretty fast

[subtle venture]

i emailed them and filled out the course change form

[uncut walrus]

bruh I applied ea and looked at the decision dates... Why is it so late omg 😭😭

I'm pretty sure I have a good shot at getting in but it's not that much sooner than if I did regular decision

if I get in somewhere else before their late ass decision process they cannot be mad at me for ignoring them 🤷 a bunch of my friends alr know where they're going

CS+ling

[uncut pasture]

grr

[uncut walrus]

R u also doing it or

[uncut pasture]

yes

[rare badger]

Good luck people!

College is a whole new experience and journey on its own peww

[uncut walrus]

Hopefully we both get accepted

[hardy geyser]

Hallo killah

[teal palm]

we are so back wsg

[hardy geyser]

Pink role

[hardy geyser]

We knocked yall out of march madness last year

[teal palm]

Where is edey now?

[hardy geyser]

Boutta do the same this year

[hardy geyser]

Baseball 🫥

[teal palm]

oh dam 2 cs ling ppl??

I heard the current freshman cs ling ppl are a cult
@remote crescent confirm?

[remote crescent]

I can confirm. Ignore the ones that come from California and who are addicted to League.

[teal palm]

yall are in a server

[teal palm]

wait isn’t half the major from cali?

[remote crescent]

Unfortunately

[teal palm]

LMAO wdym

[hardy geyser]

Hey

Don’t insult my beautiful California

Cali my beloved

[remote crescent]

People in the major from California are the ones most likely to admit to not caring at all about linguistics and only choosing CS + Ling for the higher acceptance rate into UIUC CS. Those from Illinois generally have more of an interest in linguistics, which is actually in the spirit of the program

[teal palm]

bro none of them cares abt ling
even ones from illinois

[remote crescent]

I've met like... 2

They exist!

[teal palm]

yea ik them

[hardy geyser]

Ppl from Illinois exist?!

Woahhh

[remote crescent]

I am a proud Illinoisan with an interest in linguistics

(I applied with literally 0 CS background)

[teal palm]

hi a proud Illinoisan with an interest in linguistics
im University of Illinois 👍

[remote crescent]

Fuck you for giving me no scholarship money

[hardy geyser]

Yeahhh uiuc is expensive come to purdue

[remote crescent]

I am a triple Purdue legacy. Unfortunately, they don't offer my major because Linguistics is a fake science

[uncut walrus]

YESSS TWINS EXCEPT FOR THE CS THING I LOVE PROGRAMMING

illinoisians rise up

Who else loves studying Chinese radicals and their origins and bone scripts

Bruh

U wanna be from Chicago sooo bad

[uncut walrus]

what is this Purdue Illinois beef 😹

[subtle venture]

Where my cs+ggis bros at

[mint marsh]

yes goat

😍

lemme in pls

[hidden scarab]

@mint marsh r u instate

[mint marsh]

yes 😍

sighh i hope theres a boost

[vocal socket]

there definitely is

[hidden scarab]

o shi what county

i'm from kane

[tired basin]

I love Illinois privilege 🧡 💙

[sharp niche]

chicago 💪😼

[boreal locust]

nah fr it's disgusting

[subtle venture]

what about the cs+ggis community if you know anything abt them

[remote crescent]

I know nothing about them

[subtle venture]

damn

they all prob can fit into one classroom

😭

[mint marsh]

no chicago 💔

[opaque girder]

OMG an actual UIUC

[uncut walrus]

how small are the cs+x classes usually? Like is it smaller than most majors ... Hmm

[neat cairn]

all i know is that they better be ready for the flag plant next year

[neon mountain]

wait is cs + x like actually a double major?

i thoought x will just be ur elective classes

[neat cairn]

i haven't heard anyone here describe it as a double major

[crude violet]

not really
a few CS theory classes are cut off and replaced with classes from the X major

[neon mountain]

o

so other than the fact that it has a marginally better acceptance rate, whats the point of doing cs + x

[uncut walrus]

If u like the other subject 😭 that's why I'm doing it

[neon mountain]

oh lol ofc

[uncut walrus]

When I talked to a uiuc person who visited my school they said that jobs like that you have more than one interest or skill, and you're not one dimensional

[uncut pasture]

tbh im not sure i'll stick with CS+Ling if i get in

i'm def going to add Math as a major or even switch to Math&CS

and a part of me wants to switch to/add CE

[spring cipher]

not marginally, it makes quite a difference in acceptance rate

[subtle venture]

same

a good part of my college app is built around the G in ggis

[rare badger]

I highly highly recommend applying to the major u guys want instead of looking at the acceptance rate

[subtle venture]

yea

[rare badger]

At the end of the day u guys will be sticking to the program for 4 years, it will be a pain to do it if u guys have no interest in the subject

[subtle venture]

are you in-state?

or out of state?

[rare badger]

I am international lmaoo

[subtle venture]

oh damn

did you get any aid at all

💀

[rare badger]

No…. 🥲

[subtle venture]

rip

im gonna try to stock up on outside scholarhsip

s

im oos but not intl

but in terms of cost its literally the same

[rare badger]

Yeaaaaaa internationals pay similar tuition fees as OOS students

Its just that internationals have very limited opportunities when it comes to scholarships

And aids

[subtle venture]

i see

[mint marsh]

uiuc let me in pls

[hidden scarab]

this is so true because you have colleges like ag and education that have very high acceptance rates

[iron aspen]

i have a lower chance of getting into uiuc than i had getting into GT im so fried

[subtle venture]

i have a lower chance at gt than uiuc 😔

Gt finna reject my ass but we try anyway

[iron aspen]

gt rejected my ass but ik purdue/uiuc/uw/vt got me

[iron aspen]

purdue only for ke

not at all confidnet about uiuc

my friend got into ivies but got rej from uiuc

🔥

i will not burn atlanta if u end up getting in

[subtle venture]

what major

[iron aspen]

cmpe

agreed

[subtle venture]

oh CE

[iron aspen]

yh

[subtle venture]

alr

[iron aspen]

i am cooketh

[trail raptor]

did petey clown on you slightly too hard

and youre gettin in RD trust

[iron aspen]

bro nice to everyone but me

[trail raptor]

i have to pick one of you guys to have as a punching bag

youre just unlucky

[iron aspen]

agreed

FUCKKKK

no ☹️

if purdue hands me the “thank you for ur application” im gonna passionately make out with a 12 guage

like

uw and uiuc im expecting rejections

neu as well

yes

yes they fucking do

bro

dyk ritvik

[iron aspen]

i feel like i have a chance for purdue, wpi, rit

hold on go to purdue thread

[crude violet]

100% agree
being stuck a major you dont like for 4 years is much worse than not getting in

please dont burn down atlanta lmao
i live there

[uncut pasture]

@glacial merlin ru pure cs

[subtle venture]

stinky ahh

cs on top

chem in the depths of hell

i will deprogram you out of existence

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1198778150432288798/1216948151412588604/unknown-2-1.gif

[hardy geyser]

My condolences

🫂

[subtle venture]

ai is cool too tho

[hardy geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-iluvmybf-gif-8809021896230698751

[sharp dragon]

YOU WERE DEFERRED FROM MIT RAHHHH

[subtle venture]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-irrelevant-member-indian-man-gif-6363905685084957342

[sharp dragon]

CS MAJOR MAFIA

[hardy geyser]

Job market for both of us is scuffed :_D

[subtle venture]

sob

well lets see

[sharp dragon]

It'll be okay by 2029

[subtle venture]

thats why i plan to do a biz minor

[sharp dragon]

comparitive advantage wins

Future of software engineering is just AGILE with AI where you are the manager

[hardy geyser]

Praying it will be

[sharp dragon]

and then the AI becomes the manager a few years later

[hardy geyser]

Hell yeah I’m all for that

[sharp dragon]

which is why I'm going to do a startup or mba or some shit idk I haven't thought that far ahead

[hardy geyser]

Let ai take ALL the jobs

||/j||

[sharp dragon]

I'm going to develop robotics software so we can replace the blue collar folk too!

at UIUC dirt sciences I will develop AI to replace farmers

[subtle venture]

yea im planning to do an ms and an mba

and think of setting up my own company

[sharp dragon]

Might do a PhD depending on if I like research

and don't get shit grades

[subtle venture]

not for me

im not doing a phd

[earnest forge]

im dipping as soon as I get 100k+ starting salary in the bag

[sharp dragon]

generally I've heard the best time to do an MBA is once you have a few years of industry experience

[subtle venture]

yea

[hardy geyser]

A lot of mba programs require work experience don’t they

[subtle venture]

thats why i'll work for some years

and then do an mba

i'll see if i can find a good online ms to do with my job

[sharp dragon]

I will work as a developer for 5 years until the developers are replaced. Then I will do 2 year MBA. I will work as a manager for 5 years until they are replaced by AI.

I will then use the money and my credentials to start a business and make a billion dollars or smth idk I haven't thought this far yet

[earnest forge]

only high level developers might get replaced realistically

[sharp dragon]

wdym high level developers

[hardy geyser]

I shall do all of the replacing and u can join me

[earnest forge]

like making websites and stuff which doesnt really require too much knowledge

[sharp dragon]

Yeah that's short term maybe the next decade or so

but I gotta have work for the next 40 years and I don't know if AI will be so advanced that it just replaces me at 35

[hardy geyser]

Pay me a small sum of 200k a month and I will ensure that u don’t get replaced

[sharp dragon]

The big startup goldrush once AI is invented will be in replacing non-software industries. Programmers will be the first to be replaced.

[earnest forge]

the whole problem with AI replacing everything is that our current economy would not work in that way, so AI in the near feature will be some type of product thatll help users with the job they are currently doing

[sharp dragon]

Wdym not work in that way

[hardy geyser]

Yeah I believe for the foreseeable future, ai will be used more as a tool to increase efficiency rather than to outright take humans out of the picture

[earnest forge]

people need money to buy things and companies need people with money to buy their products

[sharp dragon]

Who can build a lawn maintenance robot? Who can build a zero-labor farming system? Probably not John Deere. They can barely fix their own tractors.

[uncut walrus]

y'all creating apocalypse late stage capitalism at uiuc 😭😭

[earnest forge]

lol

[sharp dragon]

Well there are 4 phases to AI you might say:

1. Basic tool used for basic functions like finding a needle in a haystack (e.g. navigating documentation faster) or retrieving information. Think ChatGPT or google.
2. Supporting Tool is what co pilot wants to be but a bit of an increase in capbility could actually create this. Might also help in organizing architectures, cheap and dirty data parsing into a spreadsheet.
3. Comparative Action phase is where AI actually does most of the work and humans can spend more time worrying about the details. E.g. in web dev you might spend most your time optimizing one thing like UX simplicity, design, architecture, efficiency, etc. Not totally sure what it might be because it's hard to tell where AI might be strongest. it could be great at UX design and terrible at organizing a team or the reciprocal.
4. Total Replacement means that AI can do the whole job. You might have a few human supervisors doing QA and a board of directors calling the shots (under the guidance of AI) but AI does basically all the work

there would be transitional phases between these too. You might have some teams and companies incorporating more AI faster and some later adopters.

Maybe AI will be really good at web dev and terrible at low level programming or the opposite. Difficult to say because we don't actually have a high level AI

[visual heron]

wifey wifey wifey

[hardy geyser]

And I feel like the second and the third one are the main ones that will last a while, cuz total replacement of everything simply isn’t feasible in so so many ways

[sharp dragon]

the difference between 1 and 2 is pretty cloudy I will admit. It's an "I know it when I see it"

[sharp dragon]

In some areas it goes much faster and in some areas much slower. It depends on tons of unknowns. Will AI intelligence progress to human level intelligence in a phase transition where something just clicks? This behavior is observed in certain things wrt AI like grokking but there's many arguments for and against a sudden transition.

It could be that a better architecture is discovered that is quickly scaled up to AGI

[hardy geyser]

Unrelatedly, the funny thing is we don’t even have a formal definition for agi

[earnest forge]

if heavy population decline happens (which is occuring is most of east asia and europe already) I can see replacement being accepted

[hardy geyser]

Yea that’s fair

[sharp dragon]

My definition for AGI would be something that could replicate the behavior of a human in a software job. That would be AGI to a certain extent. It can't though.

We already have AGI of a sort in creative writing imo. Not superhuman but the level of a good human.

In terms of reasoning and logic models are far from AGI

[hardy geyser]

I mean that’s still narrow ai

[sharp dragon]

I mean humans are narrow intelligence anyways

[hardy geyser]

Specializing only in swe

[sharp dragon]

we are much worse at integral calculus than $50 calculator

We have much worse memory than a Chimp does in certain respect. There's a video on that.

[empty heart]

nspire is carrying me frfr

💀

[sharp dragon]

There is no boundary between narrow AI and general AI. I think the real test will be a general "can it do everything a human can do reliable"

and that will happen at different times in different areas

The industrial first disrrupted the clothing production industry and later the transportation industry. Something similar will happen with AI.

It starts by disrupting the SWE industry and adjacent software/hardware jobs.

Eventually it will crack plumbing or some physical trade and it won't be long until we are totally replaced.

[neat cairn]

It’ll be some time before actual humanoid robots will be commonplace surely

People don’t realize that AI growth isn’t exponential

[hardy geyser]

The mystery ai threshold has been reached

We don’t know why the threshold exists, but all of a sudden, all the ai companies found you can’t throw more compute power to make it better

[sharp niche]

logistic growth 🤩

[sharp dragon]

ehhhhh idk. I'd wait for GPT-5 in the next year or two

it's a big of a game of chicken right now. Nobody wants to release a killer new model using the newest frameworks if a better frameworks will be invented in the next 12 months negating all that compute they did such that a 70B local LLM can match them

[hardy geyser]

Nah

Gpt 5 will not be as impressive

U can’t just throw more data and compute and get it to work better anymore

That’s why they’re shifting towards reasoning

[sharp dragon]

It will be. If GPT-5 is unimpressive they will just slap on the title "GPT-4.5"

[hardy geyser]

Rather than the current gpt 4/5

[sharp dragon]

O1 is kinda mid. Just about as good as claude sonnet but just more expensive

[hardy geyser]

They have to fundamentally change the training architecture, which they’re doing

[hardy geyser]

I think o1 is absolutely insane, eons better than like 4o or gemini 1.5

[sharp dragon]

About as good as claude if you are judging by the benchmarks

at least in terms of reasoning

[hardy geyser]

Yea but that’s besides the point

[sharp dragon]

I think claude does chain of thought too

but yeah what makes Claude so great is that it's like 1/4 of the price of O1

[hardy geyser]

Yeah opus

[sharp dragon]

Also the other thing is that these AI company CEOs are suggesting that GPT 5 is going to be a big leap. I would tend to believe that is going to be true. But I think the important part is that they leave out the actual release date.

That probably indicates to me it's going to be another year or two before we actually get that new version jump

[teal palm]

We are so back @hardy geyser

[sharp dragon]

Fuck Penn I'm a UIUC man now

[teal palm]

W

welcome

what major u applied?

[sharp dragon]

CS 💀

[teal palm]

pure?

[sharp dragon]

yep

[teal palm]

o dam gl

[rare badger]

hellowwww

semester is finally over

😭

[tired basin]

Yay!

[earnest forge]

Lets go

There is nothing this school does better than make want to go home

[neat cairn]

I’m ready to fly back too

[wind ore]

bru

[hollow cave]

Looks like it 💀

[crude violet]

Me when I pick a hard major and it's hard

[buoyant cipher]

its a love hate relationship

[quiet salmon]

w

[tired basin]

Accept me please

This is the only Uni I applied to where I can continue my sport in my same club

[quiet salmon]

lol

[uncut walrus]

My love uiuc I never doubted u for a second

[rapid tangle]

LOL

[uncut walrus]

Honestly thank god

[rapid tangle]

yall think submitting a 1340 for english major is bad

[sharp dragon]

UIUC places more emphasis on test scores and GPA apparently so that is amazing

If I can win the CAC that should really help my CS chances.

I'm gonna make it 😭

[rapid tangle]

.

oh

[rapid tangle]

what do u guys think

[quiet salmon]

no

[subtle venture]

depends on the subscore

[sharp dragon]

chat is this real

[subtle venture]

if the lower subscore is in RW then yes its bad

[rapid tangle]

o ill check it

[subtle venture]

otherwise

its still bad

just not as bad

it'll be worse if youre oos

[rapid tangle]

its 650 reading..

690 math

im oos

[subtle venture]

yes

retake it

you still have time for RD

maybe?

[rapid tangle]

i ead

[subtle venture]

no i dont think so

oh

yea you might be cooked

[rapid tangle]

i remember reading those that dont send scores are like less likely to get in

so i just sent it

[subtle venture]

possibly

[rapid tangle]

:(

[subtle venture]

how's your gpa

@rapid tangle

[rapid tangle]

4.01 weighted

3.7 uw

[subtle venture]

unweighted?

[rapid tangle]

8 aps i graduated early

[subtle venture]

yeah thats gonna harm your app

3.7 uw is solid for an english major

its prob not competitive at uiuc

[rapid tangle]

60% also submitted for college of letter and science

so

[subtle venture]

650 in reading is not doing you any favors

how many times did you take it?

[rapid tangle]

yah

once

[subtle venture]

yeah you shouldve taken it another time

sorry man that sat score will impact your app

and not in a good way

test optional was the safer bet here

[rapid tangle]

hmm

true

welp its too late now

[rapid tangle]

what are ur stats?

[subtle venture]

3.57 uw and 1490 but i have a massive geo spike in my app, cs ec's, and great cs coursework/grades

[rapid tangle]

🔥

my gpa is solid tho right

whats ur weighted

[subtle venture]

also my hs is very rigorous so that can explain my gpa somewhat

its a t20

[subtle venture]

i dont have one

[rapid tangle]

ohhh ok

yah my gpa is ok but the sat not so much but hopefully its all good!

[subtle venture]

maybe

as i said before though english is prob not competitive

so you still might have a chance

[rapid tangle]

i hope not

ik cs is

[subtle venture]

straight cs definitely is competitive

cs+x depends on the x

[rapid tangle]

yep

lets hope so!

i think my essays were solid too but we'll see

[sharp dragon]

Would 780 math 760 english be considered an above average SAT score for grangier CS

[kind urchin]

wb math + cs? it doesn't come under cs+x technically

[subtle venture]

its one of the competitive cs+x majors

cs+math, cs+stat, cs+econ are the three most competitive cs+x majors

afaik

cs+ling is up there too

https://dmi.illinois.edu/stuenr/class/enrfa24.htm

look at this link

for the full idea

[kind urchin]

rip

rejection incoming 😔

[empty heart]

is that cause u did bad at the math section 😭

[uncut walrus]

Planning out my whole life at uiuc rn 🙏

Trying to figure out the best dorm for me

[quiet salmon]

did u get in

[uncut walrus]

No but it's my last hope for early

[glad spade]

I think cs+physics and cs+bioe also competitively

By virtue of being Grainger

[quiet salmon]

trust

[sharp dragon]

UIUC CS

[uncut walrus]

I'm pretty sure I have a good chance of getting in w my stats since I'm not trying for grainger

[sharp dragon]

Yeah I'm cooked 💀

[uncut walrus]

I mean u might not be cooked

Depends on your stats

[sharp dragon]

4.02 UW 1540 SAT. Idk how borderline that is but acceptance is 4%

weighted is kinda weird because my school weights CS classes weirdly but it should be around a 4.7 W when UIUC recalculates

[uncut walrus]

Bro that's high for grainger

R u in state or no

[sharp dragon]

really

[sharp dragon]

NO 💀

[uncut walrus]

Ok that's your weakness lol

[sharp dragon]

also I'm again CS

[uncut walrus]

1460-1550 is middle half for grainger

[sharp dragon]

and there is a 10-4% acceptance rate for OOS

depending on how conservative they want to be with letting people in

[uncut walrus]

People get into Grainger with lower scores, did u submit ea?

[sharp dragon]

yeah does that help

it's my top choice now that I was rejected by Penn

[uncut walrus]

Yeah for sure, it does

Also how was your why us essay?

[sharp dragon]

No idea but I guess I talked about research interests and also the atmospheric sciences program because I'm into that shit

I like meteorology and might do a minor or smth and not many schools have that

[uncut walrus]

If you put your all into that I feel like you'll get in . Esp with your stats lmfao. How r u with financial aid stuff since you're oos?

[sharp dragon]

I don't need fin aid thankfully

[uncut walrus]

Oh yeah you're fine

[sharp dragon]

aren't they need blind

[uncut walrus]

I mean just because they don't give money like at all to oos students. Not for admission just paying for it

[sharp dragon]

Does UIUC like major specific ECs more

for CS

[uncut walrus]

I mean it's all speculative but I think it's more about dedication to what you're interested in, and sticking with that.

And also that you were at least doing something outside of school

[sharp dragon]

how bad is it that my freshman year ECs were dookie

[uncut walrus]

😭 i feel like everyone's freshman year ecs are bad

[spring cipher]

will olympiad achievements be enoguh for the "math" in cs+math?

[kind urchin]

what olympiad?

[subtle venture]

Possibly

[tired basin]

And here I only have state comps 😔

You’re probably fine

[wind ore]

thats a separate major tho, its not counted as cs + x

afaik

[spring cipher]

international and national ones

[spring cipher]

if you have plenty of them you'll be fine too

[subtle venture]

is it actually?

[sly mesa]

state-level comps are still very high achievements lmfao do not let the people in this server fool you

[sharp dragon]

what is a state level comp

[sly mesa]

it’s like an ec but you/your school went really far in competition (i.e. district, regional, state, etc.)

a lot of schools can’t afford to participate in them or have enough students with interest in them so if you haven’t participated in one it’s not really reflective of your academic abilities

i didn’t have any and i still got in lol

[tired basin]

Yeah we do 2 comps each year as a school (7 meets)

[hollow vigil]

i just realized i made a mistake on the UIUC SRAR(self reported academic report). i accidentally put my classses as full-year instead of entering each class twice for each semester. my grades were all the same which is why i didnt notice this. is this a major issue? i sent them an email but am worried its too late to change it.

[mental crescent]

Yea i think send them an email about it, the understand mistakes like that Im pretty sure u can correct it

[hollow cave]

I made a minor mistake on my SRAR also (but realised only a few days after i submitted my application) and emailed the uni they sent an email back saying to fill out the srar correction form (it’s on your portal)

They didn’t let me edit it since it was a minor mistake, they just said that the ao reviewing my application would be informed abt it. I’d assume the same thing would happen to u (but its also pretty late so idk)

[mint marsh]

lmao is it fine if i updated my test scores 2x 💀

i got better math scores each time which helps for gies ?! js my original was kinda low but it was in the middle 50% so..

would they js look at highest 😭

[wind ore]

Yes

Its why they ask u to send new scores as u get them right

[gilded lynx]

does UIUC post OOS vs in state acceptance rates

[kind urchin]

you can calculate it from their cds

[sharp dragon]

what major

[gilded lynx]

cs

[sharp dragon]

2.84% for men

[gilded lynx]

huh

[sharp dragon]

That's the acceptance rate for men. It's 10% if you are a woman

[gilded lynx]

for cs??

[sharp dragon]

yeah

oos

[gilded lynx]

😭

what

oh

im in state

whats the acceptance rate for that

[sharp dragon]

It's like 8% in state iirc

[gilded lynx]

foir men?

[sharp dragon]

let me check

[gilded lynx]

okie dokie

[sharp dragon]

8.5%

[gilded lynx]

poop

do they weigh math more for cs

SAT

cuz i got as 790 on math

🙏 🙏

the only school ik does that is MIT

[sharp dragon]

no idea

[sly mesa]

where are you getting these stats

[kind urchin]

yeah fs

[sharp dragon]

FOIA release for 2022

might be different for 2024

[gilded lynx]

can u send me a link

[kind urchin]

you got your decision?

[sharp dragon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnYyb7FtIlpuyfOv9tuGH55D19Qto0QLuZjwX8a2Hm0xRYxI3A-sUNfQsTM493qg/pubhtml

[sharp dragon]

no lol

[sly mesa]

those aren’t the stats from the foia release lol

[sharp dragon]

they are

[sly mesa]

this is the foia release https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/132fjeo/uiuc_engineering_acceptance_rates_by_major_and/

[sharp dragon]

also it's absolutely insane how things went from 16% in 2020 to 2% in 2022

how tf does that even happen

[sharp dragon]

this data is consistent with the spreadsheet

the spreadsheet just discriminates by male and female

[gilded lynx]

thanks

[sly mesa]

also information from 2022 is very outdated, UIUC receives record-high application volumes every year and the overall CS acceptance rate for fall 2024 was 7.2%

[boreal locust]

dont come here the phys department never releases grades

[sharp dragon]

Was it lower than 2022

[sly mesa]

applying to UIUC as an out-of-state student is always a reach

[sharp dragon]

It cannot be above 1% atp

[sly mesa]

wdym

[sharp dragon]

like what was the rate in 2024

[sly mesa]

the overall acceptance rate for CS was 7.2%

[sharp dragon]

2022?

[sly mesa]

in 2024

[boreal locust]

you could get in

[sharp dragon]

what was it in 2022

[boreal locust]

it happens

[sly mesa]

no college has an acceptance rate that’s less than 1% for a normal undergrad program lol

[sharp dragon]

Maybe a bit below 2% if there has actually been an increase in OOS applications

[boreal locust]

there are

[sharp dragon]

also this is for a certain significant demographic

[boreal locust]

ucla nursing probably

[sharp dragon]

specifically OOS males in CS

[sly mesa]

not for a normal major like CS lol

[sly mesa]

the reason women’s acceptance rates are higher is because STEM is a very male-dominated field so less women apply lol, your gender has very little bearing on your admissions

[sharp dragon]

No but they let in roughly equal numbers of men and women OOS. 1/4 the number of women apply.

[sly mesa]

again your gender has very little bearing on your admissions decision. it does not matter anywhere near as much as academics do. there’s no reason to be reading into it this deeply lol

[sharp dragon]

That's just not true and the data shows otherwise not sure why you want to die on this hill. Male OOS acceptance rate is 2.84% and female OOS acceptance rate is 10.5% that's not just random variations in stats

I'm a guy so I gotta actually consider this heavily when chancing myself

[sly mesa]

again. you don’t need to be reading into it that deeply. less women apply because women are generally dissuaded from entering STEM fields so the women that do apply tend to have much better academics. admissions committees will not care about your gender unless you get to the final rounds of review and they need to pare down on male admits. it’s really not that deep

there’s a much deeper trend beyond the numbers lol. statistics do not tell the whole story

[sharp dragon]

yeah but that story reduces my chances. Also UIUC did not drop in acceptance in latest admissions rounds anyways

[little haven]

https://hbr.org/2014/08/why-women-dont-apply-for-jobs-unless-theyre-100-qualified

[sharp dragon]

closer to 3.8% last year so it's rising

[sly mesa]

uiuc did not release that many official admissions stats for last cycle lol it’s mostly speculation

[sharp dragon]

No they got FOIAed

[sharp dragon]

I find it very difficult to believe that this accounts for the entire gap. Especially when you consider how much colleges curate these things. I won't continue this discussion but I'm sure you're well aware of the court cases.

Number of applicants is dropping though which is good

[sly mesa]

the court cases have nothing to do with this lmfao, sociology is in fact a massive aspect of college admissions

again it is never serious enough to be thinking about this so deeply

[sharp dragon]

I wish colleges released the average applicant SAT

[mental crescent]

why the fuck even based on gender bruh

thats so dumb

[sharp dragon]

Ehh it's fine UIUC acceptance rate will probably rise this year

considering that the job market is in a serious slump and the AI hype is dying. Already dropped last year too.

[kind urchin]

they do

the cds

[sharp dragon]

where

[kind urchin]

for uiuc

[kind urchin]

https://www.dmi.illinois.edu/stuenr/misc/cds_2022_2023.xlsx

[sharp dragon]

based

[sharp dragon]

this is for the general college and not Siebel right

[kind urchin]

yeah

[mint marsh]

do they let more women into gies pls tell me they do

[sly mesa]

because when you historically exclude a group from a space then they’re much less likely to apply

[sly mesa]

it’s about an even split

[sly mesa]

let’s focus on getting in before criticizing their admissions practices

[glad spade]

As a man I wouldn't want to go to a predominantly male school 💀

Also women in STEM tend to be better on average

[wind ore]

lowk, where my ABGs at

[glad spade]

You might be one of the males I was talking about

💀

Why are you saying this

[wind ore]

bro its a joke 😭😭

[glad spade]

We think before we speak here

[wind ore]

well i thought yall would know satire 😭

[glad spade]

Thats just weird cuh 😭

[wind ore]

nah nah u thinkin im frr lowk more weird

[glad spade]

LMFAO

this is actually sad

overall ratio is decent though

[odd quartz]

yeah being surrounded by guys sucks

especially academically

[glad spade]

I get wym 💀

If you get an all guys group for a group project it's joever

[odd quartz]

they all bro up and ur just like 🧍

[subtle venture]

sexism at its finest

[tired basin]

The women are more qualified

[subtle venture]

idk

i feel like merit should be more considered

[wind ore]

I’d say there’s merit in pursuing a field that’s very toxic in general to ur gender

[subtle venture]

fair enough

guys

do we need to submit ap scores

[vocal socket]

I think there are slightly less women who apply to STEM but it's been increasing so it's closer to half half

But most universities still want a 50/50 split

Tbh not big enough of a factor to give men a disadvantage or women an advantage

[tired basin]

I’m saying women on average have more merit

*the women that apply

[mental crescent]

Admissions should be merit based and also favor their socioeconomic status and race, throwing in gender makes no sense

[sly mesa]

you’re probably like 17 so i’m not going to argue about this but when you realize that women are at a socioeconomic disadvantage because of their gender maybe you’ll understand why schools try to uplift women in stem

[mental crescent]

Lmao yea aight

[sly mesa]

please read and realize that women weren’t allowed to hold high-ranking executive positions until very recently and even apply to some colleges until the 1980s.

you’re criticizing the admissions practices of a process you have not even completed yet

[mental crescent]

Its not necessary but if you have a good score like 4-5 you should submit it. They also won’t see your bad scores

[subtle venture]

yea fr

[subtle venture]

i applied ea though

i got a 4 on csa and calc ab

[glad matrix]

Do UIUC give scholarships to international?

[subtle venture]

i had an A in csa and a B in calc ab

[mental crescent]

I think you can email them the scores, or maybe theres an official way to do it

[subtle venture]

i mean sure but dyt sending them given my grades in the classes is a good idea

i dont think sending csa is a good idea

[sly mesa]

it’s very difficult to receive merit scholarships or aid from any public school, especially as an oos or international student

[mental crescent]

Id send either way, i got a B on AP Lang but a 5 on the exam and so far gotten 4 acceptances and 1 rejection

[subtle venture]

ohh i see

so im gonna apply to 4 schools in RD so can i just list it on common app

under the testing sectio

[mental crescent]

Yea

[sly mesa]

yes

[subtle venture]

alr

[sly mesa]

some schools make you officially send them through collegeboard to make sure you check their individual policies

[subtle venture]

alright

say i get into and commit to uiuc can i send all of my ap scores even the ones in sr year after that for course credit

[sly mesa]

yes

any courses or ap exams you take can be used for credit as long as you have the minimum score/grade required

some schools do have guidelines for how they’re able to transfer tho so if that’s a major consideration for you i’d def check it out once you get to that point in the process

[subtle venture]

alr thanks

[earnest forge]

it just becomes an endless grind after a while

[earnest forge]

congressional app challenge? it probably does help, I won it too

[earnest forge]

they implemented common app somepoint. the common app decreased acceptance rates to schools bcs its so easy to apply through it

[earnest forge]

afaik uiuc does only merit based admissions, so there is a higher rate of women acceptances bcs there is less women applying thats it. if you look at the ece department only ~10% of it is women

[earnest forge]

you youself told the answer. if 1/4 the women apply then the percentage should be ~4x the men admission percentage which is what your data shows. the cs department has so many applicants that they can make a class however they want since there is so many qualified people

[hollow vigil]

after u did the correction form, did ur SRAR update on ur portal? or do they just leave it as a note for the AO to see when they review ur application?

[cosmic skiff]

Wtf

That's so high

[hollow cave]

Depends on the mistake, for me they said they’ll just leave a note for the AO (my mistake was very minor) but for one of my friends they allowed her to edit the srar and resubmit. So depends on the mistake they’ll probably just leave a note for u though

[rapid tangle]

anyone know the oos acceptance rate for english majors?

[sly mesa]

that kind of info isn’t really released

[sharp dragon]

You can FOIA or whatever the Illinois version of that is

[sly mesa]

it’s a lengthy process and doesn’t really matter lol

[sharp dragon]

For what it's worth I'd persume it's well north of 50% because grangier acceptance is so low and overall acceptance is about 44%

[sly mesa]

the highest acceptance rate is 57%

[sharp dragon]

oh then it's probably around 50%

[subtle venture]

Wait gies is just as competitive as Grainger? 💀💀

[neat cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-news-trump-gif-22804577

[tired basin]

All I want for Christmas is YOU||IUC||

[crude violet]

[subtle venture]

ME CORE

all i want for christmas is U||iuc||

[native forge]

I'm an international student who's taking the IB and done my entire education in English. Would I still need to submit an English proficiency test for UIUC?

[supple relic]

You can exempt it was an ap eng lang or lit score

[mint marsh]

uiuc

let me in 🙏 ong

help reading the essays again aint no way dawg 😭

[slender hedge]

One month gang

About

Let me into EE 🙏

[uncut walrus]

Does anybody know why their decision dates r so late 😭😭😭

[uncut pasture]

jan 30 isnt that late

its in line with other state schools

[sly mesa]

EA generally comes out in mid-late january

[uncut walrus]

Ig I've been convinced of otherwise by the big schools😭😭

[bitter barn]

college season pulling up fr

prayin for yall

[quiet salmon]

yayaa

[subtle venture]

is uiuc good for anything other than cs/eng (?)

[sly mesa]

yes lol

it’s a great school for pretty much anything

that kinda goes for every massive R1 university lmfao

[subtle venture]

i see

[crude violet]

yes

we are one of the best schools for crop sciences, statistics and animal sciences

[tired basin]

hows the math program

[subtle venture]

ygs are literally in the middle of cornfields bro ofc uiuc would be top for crop and animal sciences

[remote crescent]

It's a requirement to like corn if you go to UIUC. I don't make the rules, it's just the nature of being in the midwest.

[mint marsh]

lemme in

🙏

[crude violet]

im not in math but ive heard it's good

[crude violet]

we are also #2 in the country for library sciences

[iron aspen]

gies is good too

[subtle venture]

tf 😭

[lost sonnet]

has anyone visited uiuc irl

particularly the engineering school

[tired basin]

Yes, no

[lost sonnet]

did you actually like it

I visited and I thought it was the ugliest school I've ever seen

[tired basin]

I went for school twice and liked it. I went on the tour and did not.

[mint marsh]

ngl it does not appeal to me visually

i still want an acceptance 🙏

[quaint star]

ong it’s ugly

but it’s uiuc

[sly mesa]

tbh a lot of engineering schools are pretty ugly imo

highly reliant on brutalist architecture

[sly mesa]

penn state moment

[floral gull]

that was texas a&m for me

[crude violet]

i dont think our engineering buildings are that bad

[sly mesa]

also if you’re an engineering student you won’t be seeing much of the outside anyways

you’ll be too busy grinding

[crude violet]

none of our engineering buildings are brutalist

the psychology building is actually the most brutalist here imo

[sly mesa]

i mean in general

not uiuc specifically

[crude violet]

i see

[neat cairn]

our buildings are not brutalist

[rare badger]

I agree, ECEB, Sidney Lu, and Civil Engineering buildings are one of the newer buildings in Grainger

[supple relic]

You ain't wrong

[neat cairn]

confusing us with purdue

[tired basin]

Thanks

[vocal socket]

redacted is crazy

i have a decent shot

[quiet salmon]

w

[subtle venture]

bro is a nuke ☢️🚀

[lost sonnet]

wait the average sat are really that low??

I thought the 25th percentile engineering was like 1460

is it because it's all applied applicants instead of accepted

[snow sage]

they should be calculating the median

average is not a 5-node summary

and is susceptible to admits with low SAT scores but with extradinary circumstances

[stable nebula]

you can just ask for every public school fr?

[carmine birch]

Wait so is the average sat, the average of admitted students?

[uncut pasture]

fuck dude i wish i applied for CpE at UIUC

instead of Ling+CS

my profile is better for ling+CS but CpE is more what i want to do now...

[subtle venture]

comp eng?

also you cant transfer?

[snow sage]

yep

yep

but in the excel sheet the first table splits NR and R

so in th NR data, the average is gonna be more biased than the median

[sly mesa]

in-state students are always favored at public schools. it’s not really out of the ordinary

[lost sonnet]

aside from suny

[sly mesa]

it’s because they don’t receive a ton of money from the state so they need the extra tuition from oos/international students

but that’s not a common thing

[tender nymph]

one month to go

gies let me in and my life is yours

[steady maple]

If I qualified for AIME this year and applied to uiuc EA should i send an email to admissions officers updating them.im OOS

[crude violet]

were you international?

if so yes

[steady maple]

no im USA

just not from illinois

[crude violet]

i see

it wouldn't hurt tbh

go ahead

[uncut pasture]

wait apparently CS+Ling at UIUC might be cooked

😭

i have good ECs for it tho

😭

its joever

[lost sonnet]

anyone who go to uiuc know akshay garud

[fickle sentinel]

uiuc pls let me in

[lost sonnet]

hey

focus on Washington

stop getting wandering eyes

[mint marsh]

ongg bro

if uiuc lets me in jan 31st

chilling rest of cycle

Plss

and if they reject me, im actually cooked for my 29 other decisions

tbf uiuc essays kinda sucked ass i wont be shocked if i get rejected LMAO

[fickle sentinel]

youre right

😔

[slate socket]

29 decisions

I only have 15

Jesus christ

[tender nymph]

fr bro i need it it’s been my dream school since forever like every other IL kid lol

[slate socket]

I’m dreaming of this school and I’m not even an illinois resident

[quiet salmon]

uiuc 🙏

[quiet salmon]

ermmm

actually 🤓

[subtle venture]

thats why cs+geo on top ong

[subtle venture]

same bruh

i can finally tell the indian uncles and aunties i got into a top 5 cs school

(if i get in)

[slate socket]

Top 5 CE school too

[subtle venture]

fr

[slate socket]

I can't believe umich uiuc and gatech all come out on the same day apparently

[subtle venture]

bro

oh

[lost sonnet]

oh fuck what

[subtle venture]

i applied RD to gt

nvm

mine will come in march

[slate socket]

well they did last year

I think

I'm actually gonna crash out

[subtle venture]

i'll have uiuc and umd on the same day

[slate socket]

bro I can't imagine how my friend must've felt

when he got rejected from uiuc

[subtle venture]

hopefully umd didnt defer my app bc my sat scores arrived a bit late 🤞

[slate socket]

deferred from umich and gatech

all on the same day

[subtle venture]

my app was marked complete on 11/4

[slate socket]

He ended up going to upenn though so it's chill

[subtle venture]

💀

[slate socket]

but still

[slate socket]

😭

[slate socket]

if this happens to me I will cry

[subtle venture]

if they did defer its game over for me i can forget about umd tbh

[lost sonnet]

wait is georgia tech that hard for out of state or is the acceptance rate just deflated

[slate socket]

It's genuinely super tough

I mean the applicant pool isn't super strong

but ngl

CS prolly drives the acceptance rates down

it's very tough to get into gatech cs

[lost sonnet]

wait they admit by major?

[slate socket]

they consider it when admitting you

little different

and also CS is restricted

so you can't apply to a different major and then transfer

so it's kind of a special case

[subtle venture]

i applied cs with ce as 2nd choice

[lost sonnet]

I dont remember what i applied as but I think I applied for some stupid shit like "human-based engineering" only because it worked best with my supplemental essay

[subtle venture]

i think its over but i shot my shot

its ok!!!!!!!!!!

why does GT not have any other cs related majors

wtf is computational media

[slate socket]

I did CE and then EE as my second choice

[subtle venture]

do they admit by major

[slate socket]

^

[subtle venture]

oh ok

yea im cooked for cs

my chem and physics grades are gonna cook me for CE

its over chat

[boreal locust]

everyone in that program is cooked

[slate socket]

We’re getting into all of them trust cope believe

It’s not over until it’s over real

I’m confident about UIUC but umich and gatech scare me

Ur gonna be fine

Ur essays prolly aren’t that bad

And for these schools(besides mich) they don’t matter that much

[copper sedge]

Bro has gyat to be kidding

No I believe it
I put a ton of humor in a lot of my essays too

[novel trout]

I am actually so curious as to what the essay was about

YES please do

I want to read that essay so bad 😭

[mint marsh]

ok ur acc crazy what the f

[mint marsh]

real

gonna text my span teacher who went to uiuc that i got in jan 31st

if i dont get in im gna be an embarrassment ong

[quiet salmon]

LOLOL Its not as bad as u think

[mint marsh]

help how is this

[quiet salmon]

mostly fee waivers

[mint marsh]

ok fair how many essays tho help

[quiet salmon]

i only had like 10-12 schools w essays

uh let me check

[mint marsh]

ok light

helpp how many no essay schools did u find thats crazyy

[quiet salmon]

(im not poor)

UT austin
UNC
Georgia Tech
UIUC
Umich
Purdue
Udub
Washu
Notre dame

everything else was no supplementals

i cant wait for so many emails

i think im addicted help 😭

[subtle venture]

yea ur cooked

[mint marsh]

damn

[mint marsh]

this is crazyy

[mint marsh]

well gl gang

[quiet salmon]

Chat im locked in

[mint marsh]

real

did u submit everything help

[hollow cave]

How did u even get so many
Got only two and didnt apply to either of them 💀

[quiet salmon]

i got like 11-12

random schools

[void loom]

Howd u get those

[quiet salmon]

huh

no those are the ones i had supplementals

[void loom]

Ohh

[uncut pasture]

chat does changing my second major affect consideration for my first major affect me

thinking of switching from math to EE

[mint marsh]

why do decisions come out this yr

im SCAREDD

*month

[tired basin]

Ahhhhhhhh

[safe cairn]

it shouldn't

[torn plinth]

which ones are these

[uncut pasture]

ight

i just have to fill out the why major for EE by sunday

okay great

[quiet salmon]

Wymm

[mint marsh]

29 DAYS

HOLY FUCK

[torn plinth]

no supplemental colleges

[spring cipher]

i got two more honors can i send it in any way?

[subtle venture]

shit

29 more days

wtf

[mint marsh]

im cooked

[visual heron]

most of my eas releasing this month

[mint marsh]

i’m screwed

idk pls accept me

read my essays again 💀💀💀💀😔😁😭

[sharp dragon]

#purdueIbelieveinyou

lower them standards purdue

[quiet salmon]

whats ur major

[royal fractal]

@slate socket yo, did you get an admit?

[mint marsh]

guys what time r decisions

why is this my first real one

[quiet salmon]

wym real one

you have fake colleges??

[mint marsh]

yea hustlers

[quiet salmon]

its real tho

wym

😬

[mint marsh]

not real to me

[quiet salmon]

ok buddy

[slate socket]

decisions aren't out yet for anything

[vocal socket]

you got this

stop dooming

[split knoll]

Im thinking about changing my first choice major 😭 is it not too late to do so

[tender nymph]

will i get into uiuc

nah, i’d win

[uncut pasture]

it'll put you into RD

just fill out the petition before jan 5

or else youll get cooked

[rare badger]

Good Luck!

https://tenor.com/view/illini-illinois-fighting-illini-fighting-college-gif-15754826

[crude violet]