Princeton University (2024-2025)

[pulsar crest]

My first semester grades probably won’t be finalized until around Valentine’s Day

They give teachers 2 weeks to finish grades after it ends at the end of January

Do I run the risk of sending my LOCI too late if I wait until mid February? I know they won’t accept me after getting deferred if I don’t send new info

[wise marsh]

your LOCI doesn’t have to include your first semester grades. your counselor will send them in your mid-year report

[pulsar crest]

Right but I have awards and programs I’m waiting to hear back from that could benefit my loci and I won’t hear back from a few until early February

[wise marsh]

i would ask the admissions office when specifically they want a LOCI

[old turtle]

Usually the impediment is the 36 courses versus 32 courses thing, because if you join late and didn't plan for it, you now have a lot of coursework to catch up on. Administratively, I don't think it's a big deal. Just ask the CS department. My info is 15 years old

[twin elm]

When is winter break for princeton

[median zealot]

now until January 27th

But we have wintersession starting the 13th

[twin elm]

Wow when does it start?

[median zealot]

Most people got home on Thursday or Wednesday

[twin elm]

Cool thanks

The calendar is a little odd lol

[gilded bear]

Well BSE -> AB should be easy right? Will probably apply BSE and consider switching later

[white marten]

That’s way longer than expected

[old turtle]

That's a much easier way to go

[twin elm]

I was looking into this as well and most ppl have said its easier to do BSE to AB esp for CS bc you almost have to take the BSE prerequisites freshman year or youll be behind

[steady tendon]

yeah this is a very common occurrence

i know a bunch of bse cos to ab

[old turtle]

what's the difference? Senior thesis?

[steady tendon]

yeah and jr ind work reqs

all my bse friends were making of me for having to write 2 jps

[old turtle]

The fall and spring jps?

[steady tendon]

yeah lol

i’m actually so mad tho because spia now only has 1

they changed after my jr yr

[old turtle]

I remember (as MOL), everyone who did a lit review got better grades than the kids who did bench work and they had to adjust

Wait, you're a senior?

[steady tendon]

that’s so tough omg

yeah

[old turtle]

Congrats for almost making it

[steady tendon]

i’m so excited to go

[old turtle]

The hard part is to come 😅🙃

[steady tendon]

nah sr spring looks to be not too bad

[old turtle]

Thesis?

[steady tendon]

3 classes that aren’t super hard and my thesis is like pretty chill ish

[old turtle]

I remember getting 7 hours of sleep over 3 days finishing that thing

[steady tendon]

i’m not doing and quant analysis

[old turtle]

Or something like that

[steady tendon]

oh gosh

[old turtle]

CS?

[steady tendon]

nah spia

[old turtle]

Ah, that's chill. Just make deadlines for your writing and you'll be fine

Eating club?

[steady tendon]

cap

what were you in

[old turtle]

Nice, charter

[steady tendon]

nice nice

street week is coming up soon and i’m so not excited

[old turtle]

My year was one of the smallest, which I hear it isn't the way it is now

[steady tendon]

yeah it’s suuuuper competitive now

it’s a point lottery system

glorified bicker if you ask me

[old turtle]

We were sub 40?

[steady tendon]

oh shit

[old turtle]

Points lottery?

[steady tendon]

yeah you attend events and are awarded points for attendance

minimum you need to get in is like 14

and then it’s a lottery from that pool

[old turtle]

Yeah, total complement between two years was sub 80? It was bad

[steady tendon]

damn

[old turtle]

Shiiiiiit. Stem go burrrrrr

[steady tendon]

fr

[old turtle]

We started opening Friday nights to get more engagement

[steady tendon]

yeah charter fridays is still a huge thing

[old turtle]

I think that's more standard now?

[steady tendon]

i have yet to go lmao

[old turtle]

But that started around my time

[steady tendon]

it’s like sometimes list sometimes puid

[old turtle]

Cuz we sucked

[steady tendon]

damn

was there a cap charter rivalry

that’s a huge thing now

huge is a bit of an overstatement tho

[old turtle]

Noooope. Rivalry over what? Cap was sports teams

Like lax etc

[steady tendon]

lmfao not anymore

that’s all cottage and cannon now

cap is very gay dance and like acapella

[old turtle]

Damn. Terrace still food=love? That place is awesome. I can't imagine that personality changing

Cannon being back is wild to me

Campus still gone. Rip

[steady tendon]

yesss

terrace is sooo fun i love it

i was gonna drop cap for terrace this year but decided against it lol

very stoner hippie type vibe

cannon is like all athletes and such an odd energy

was campus club alive when you were there

[old turtle]

Yes, campus died while I was there. Some of my best friends were part of their last classes.

Terrace was my way to keep in touch with my non engineering friends, which is nice social diversity

[steady tendon]

rip campus

there’s a coffee shop in there now

and the university used it for all their events

[warm panther]

when do staff get back

[steady tendon]

terrace vibes r sooooo good

[steady tendon]

depends on what type of staff

[old turtle]

Yeah, I hung out there for like 4 hours during reunions this year

[warm panther]

admissions 💯

[steady tendon]

there’s always something going on there

[warm panther]

i want my LOCI to be the first thing they see when theyre back refereshed from their break

[steady tendon]

lmfao i would assume they get back winter session

[old turtle]

lol, you know Kennedy was at Princeton before Harvard, right?

[median zealot]

Idk why

[steady tendon]

omg new lore

[warm panther]

whats winter sesh

[warm panther]

@median zealot

[steady tendon]

it’s like a week of extracurricular and fun programming

[old turtle]

The old Dodge Osborne entryway had bricks in it from the building Kennedy lived in. I don't know if they preserved it

Since they tore that down last year?

[steady tendon]

this is like you and every other deferred kid lol

[warm panther]

nice

[median zealot]

💀

[warm panther]

💯

dude i think the reason i got deferred was like maybe i was too specific

[median zealot]

No

[steady tendon]

was dodge osborne first

i’m like trying to remember

[warm panther]

for like a sentence though

[median zealot]

It’s not worth speculating

[steady tendon]

oof diva that’s a crazy thing to write about

[median zealot]

and over analyzing your app

[old turtle]

Definitely not?

[steady tendon]

where on campus is dodge osborne

[warm panther]

i did analyze and change stuff for rd

i cut my common app essay by like 70 words

[old turtle]

First/Wilson college, next to Frist

[warm panther]

too much fluff the first time around

and i redid some of the ec descriptions to be more specific

[steady tendon]

ok wait yeah they tore it down for hobson

i miss that little pathway

[old turtle]

https://www.princetonianamuseum.org/artifact/7a3dc6fe-8c5f-48ff-9544-f50f7eccd2e1

[steady tendon]

cut my walk commute by like 3 minutes

my friend was in dodge like 252 i think ??

[old turtle]

I think I was in like.. 203? a tiny sub 100 sq ft. single on the first floor

so I walked by that "Kennedy was here" thing every day

[steady tendon]

nasty dorms those were i fear

[old turtle]

100%. Shittastic

[steady tendon]

there was always a funk

[old turtle]

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2010/08/26/exhibition-showcases-jfks-brief-time-princeton

[steady tendon]

and the cinder blocks were awful

[old turtle]

it's like stench seeped into the bricks and flooring

[humble stream]

has anyone done a freshman seminar would you recommend

[steady tendon]

i was in one for 2 weeks and then dropped

felt like a waste of time

some of my friends really loved theirs

[old turtle]

dropped?

you have a choice?

[steady tendon]

yeah

add drop

[old turtle]

oh, course

I missed the freshman seminar thing. I took two. They were awesome. One was an ethics course by a former Princeton president, and the other one was just fun

[steady tendon]

there’s some fuck ass topics

[old turtle]

there was one where your professor was a former FBI director

that's lit

[steady tendon]

i know a bunch of people who finished their lab req doing the motorcycle lab

damn

[old turtle]

one of my roommates took that one. I can't find a single trace of him online now 😅

[steady tendon]

lmaoooo

[frosty crescent]

What were yalls song choice for that song question

[old turtle]

Currently: Maggie Rogers - Alaska

[frosty crescent]

I cannot decide at all I swear this question will be my downfall

[old turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-come-on-kid-you-can-do-it-dont-think-just-do-you-can-do-it-you-got-this-gif-26666314

[mild spire]

How is Princeton for aero?

I’m answering the first prompt and looking for stuff specific to Princeton to write about

[twin adder]

theres a great aromantic/asexual club on campus

jk ik what you mean

its mechanical and aerospace engineering (MAE) here, its an awesome department

[twin adder]

motion sickness by pheobe bridgers

omg princeton enthusiast got deferred?

thats so tough

[bold abyss]

@old turtle was going to ask this in the Yale channel but then realized it's a Pton question: do you notice a significant conservative presence on campus?

People say Pton has more than the other ivies

I'm not conservative personally but I think it's interesting to talk to people who are ~different from me

[old turtle]

My perspective is a bit older, so you might want to ask one of the students who's currently there, but during my time there, there was a conservative presence and there is/was the Princeton Tory, which is a conservative newsletter. I have read in the Princeton Alumni Weekly, that the presence of conservatives has diminished in recent years.

That said, some of my best friends are conservative, and at the end of the day, none of our discussions are contentious, they are constructive. But we often agree on core human principles. The differences are usually on implementation, which of course is always up for debate

There are well known conservative professors distributed throughout the faculty

I personally am not happy with the way politics has evolved over the past 10-15+ years, but at the end of the day, there's a difference between politics and policy, and that's where the tires meet the ground

at the end of the day, winning elections and running the country are two different things

[bold abyss]

Oh interesting

Tbh idk any ideologically conservative profs other than like

Idk George Borjas at Harvard? Idk if he even teaches anymore I just read his immigration papers 💀💀

[old turtle]

Professor george?

Oh, meant Robert George

[bold abyss]

I wait no I have heard of this guy

Okay I amend my statement

Idk any conservative non-legal profs except Borjas*

But anyway ty

A little sad to hear ideological diversity is on the decline (everywhere)

[old turtle]

I'm a scientist so.... I was only aware of it over mealtime conversations

[bold abyss]

Fair enough

Tbh most of my political conversations with my friends rn are at lunch lol

[mild spindle]

does princeton superscore the sat

i have a paper attempt and a digital attempt

combined i get a superscore of 1520

[twin adder]

no

90% of people are socially liberal

[bold abyss]

Lol expected ig

I mean tbh I'm not super into engaging staunch social conservatives

[twin adder]

and lots of queer people

especially the women its a pretty significant majority of bisexual women

so kinda by definition

[twin adder]

yes

[bold abyss]

I was thinking more like...idk the kind of people that care a lot about national debt

[twin adder]

thats a more complex ideological classification

economic beliefs can be more practical than ideological

if you think about economics then theres a lot of people that just dont really know the politics of fiscal spending or welfare economics and wont have strong thoughts either way

socially its easier to stratify, like most people are pro abortion, lgbtq rights, gender equality

[bold abyss]

I do think it's wrapped up partly in ideology though

[twin adder]

a little bit but its not the line that politics is divided

not everyone thinks about the welfare state

[bold abyss]

At least in my city ik a decent group of adults who have recently left the Republican party but still identify with its 90s/00s stances

And I find them really interesting to talk to

Ig that's kind of what I'm thinking

[bold abyss]

That's true

[twin adder]

hahaha my political economy prof last semester

found me in a cafe near campus

and was having a conversation w a colleague about how we dont have any undergrad classes about welfare states at pton

cuz im interested in welfare states

and he was like

do you know anyone else interested in welfare states

and i had to be like

no

[bold abyss]

😭

Hm

Mentally I'm trying to compare to Yale (which has a leftier reputation)

Whatever ig I just apply and see what happens 💀

[bold abyss]

Also your prof just recognized you?

Waow

[twin adder]

i know all my professors

[bold abyss]

Is this the undergrad focus I keep getting told about

[twin adder]

i mean ive had 13 profs/instructors

and im tight/very friendly w like 12 of them id say

just not one who def knows me except he hates me cause i dont go to lecture and he takes personal offense about it

in the supplemental section

[twin adder]

well profs are very accessible, like i usually schedule coffee chats/meetings to get to know them at the start of the semester and introduce myself

ask them about their research

say hi when you walk into lecture, stay after to ask questions, email with questions about the content, go to office hours, book additional meetings to talk about academic stuff

and theyre happy to do coffee chats and catch up after theyre not your prof anymore too, like i did that with 3 profs last semester

[bold abyss]

oh cool

are they mostly in the philosophy department?

as in

do you think that's because it's a smaller department or is it a general thing at pton

[twin adder]

hahahah none of these are philosophy profs

ive only done political philosophy so far

getting into 3 actual philosophy department classes this coming semester

[old turtle]

damn, that's really taking advantage of resources. That's really 💪

[twin adder]

this applies to everything. a prof will respond to every email you send, generally

[twin adder]

these span econ, politics, political theory/philosophy, french, mechanical engineering, history, literature

[bold abyss]

wow

[twin adder]

to answer this directly yes i think this is unique to pton

like i email my profs with the expectation that they will respond, i dont think there were any emails this semester i sent that a professor didnt reply to within like a day or two

[mild spire]

For the song supplement question do they want an explanation or is the word limit 50 so you can fit any possible song title?

[median zealot]

most people explain it

50 words is enough to give a short description or explanation

[mild spire]

Yeah probably a good idea

[twin adder]

haha you should explain it

[mild spire]

I’m debating between something uplifting and something sentimental

[twin adder]

go w ur gut

i talked about an ex LMAO

and i guess they were chill w it so ...

[mild spire]

Ight bet

[twin adder]

pton likes absurd things

gotta show ur personality and stick out

[mild spire]

In that regard for the 50 word essay on what brings me joy would laughter be a good choice?

Or is that like kinda cliche

[quasi spoke]

just really think about what makes you happy, like you can maybe be specific with the kind of laughter u like? like a specific someone’s laughter maybe.

[mild spire]

Ok that makes sense, thanks

[twin adder]

yes

sounds delightful

[mild spire]

Haha thanks

[twin adder]

yall i got an A- in fucking

macroeconomics

😭

lowk beyond embarassing

[white marten]

Hey guys

Checking in

Hoping to not get killed by RDs

[twin adder]

yoooo

[white marten]

Still technically have a chance here but I’m not feeling it

[twin adder]

giving yall a realistic view of what youll face if you do come to pton

LOL

intro macroecon humbling is crazy

i admit i did not go to 80% of lectures

but thought i could swing the A

its ok

[white marten]

A small state school will be better to stand out and get research opportunities anyway

[ionic terrace]

Is there such thing as a small state school other than your CC

[white marten]

Only about 12,000 people go to U of I which is much smaller than the typical state school

Besides there’s no shot I get into any better of a program

[mild spire]

I’m struggling to find a good topic or anacdote for the 500 word essay, would it be too cliche to talk about how a class forced me to become comfortable with explaining topics in front a large group? Or how I basically tutored a bunch of guys at my cc on physics? I don’t think those are very personal topics

[twin adder]

whats this prompt again

[mild spire]

Princeton values community and encourages students, faculty, staff and leadership to engage in respectful conversations that can expand their perspectives and challenge their ideas and beliefs. As a prospective member of this community, reflect on how your lived experiences will impact the conversations you will have in the classroom, the dining hall or other campus spaces. What lessons have you learned in life thus far? What will your classmates learn from you? In short, how has your lived experience shaped you? (500 words or fewer)

[twin adder]

this is the diversity essay

not an invitaiton to talk about whatever

[mild spire]

I’m not though?

I’m starting to think I should just have a single diversity essay that I use for every college

[jade sage]

I have a similar one that I try to tweak for different schools

[white marten]

For this one I wrote an endearing yet rough description of small town life

Political, educational, interpersonal aspects

[mild spire]

Maybe I should do something similar

[twin adder]

i mean ur ideas arent related to like diversity of experience

[mild spire]

Fair enough

[twin adder]

basically that essay was implemented in replacement of the july 2023 supreme court ruling

[mild spire]

Bruh

[analog mountain]

I wrote about my how my accent after moving to a big city marked me an outsider

but it might be to generic idk

[mild spire]

I lived in Norway for 10 years and got to talk to a lot of different people from different cultures (our entire class size was literally 18 students). This included people from many different countries, so I’m thinking it may be a good premise for my response

[white marten]

This is an excellent essay topic

[mild spire]

Ok I’ll start writing, thanks

[twin adder]

great

thats more the angle i think

[white marten]

Yep

It’s whatever experiences make you, you

[mild spire]

I think I interpreted the prompt wrong to begin with lol

[white marten]

Not extracurriculars or school stuff but how your life has been affected by your surroundings

[twin adder]

nah its the divesity essay

can be about race gender etc

[hard palm]

Is it bad if I do write about an extracurricular?

[white marten]

Yeah surroundings/demographics/environment

It can be intrinsic like race or extrinsic like geography

[hard palm]

I just don't know what I would write about for something like that

[white marten]

Whatever is part of your identity

[hard palm]

I've always lived in white suburbs unfortunately

[steady tendon]

talk about how the riveting envrionment a cul de sac provided for existential reflection and growth

[hard palm]

My current essay is about a really emotional choir performance and how it's shaped how I view my community but

[steady tendon]

you cant think of anything like so genuinely unique to your environment or upbrining that has radically influenced your worldview

[hard palm]

I can but that's what my caps was all about haha

[steady tendon]

oh i see i se

hrm

is there a sub branch or like an aspect of it that you didnt quite expand on in your personal essay

[tender karma]

You can think of a different side maybe?

[twin adder]

haha idk what i wouldve said

[hard palm]

I mean choir is definitely part of it

[steady tendon]

yeah i fear this is an evil question

[twin adder]

i talked about merging of my chinese heritage and american upbringing+nationality for the MIT one

[hard palm]

But yeah I could try and build off my caps more specifically, I hadn't thought of that

[twin adder]

which was cliche asf but i had nothing else to say LMAO

and i guess they liked it?

[tender karma]

Hm

I wrote about a conversation I had with my sister regarding AI art

Is that too one dimensional?

[hard palm]

Although I'm realizing I already build off my CAPS in my civic engagement 😭

[hard palm]

For the diversity essay?

[tender karma]

Yeah

[steady tendon]

im sure they just eat up any sort of like introspective bullshit about community and the conflict and interplay between identities

[tender karma]

I can’t tell if writing about immigration is too cliche or if they would actually like it, cause it seems like a rather common topic

[gilded bear]

you got into mit?

[twin adder]

haha i got waitlisted and then i rejected the waitlist

[gilded bear]

ohh ok

mid school anyways

[twin adder]

cause i wanted to go to princeton more anyway

but i was certainly not a fit for MIT so the waitlist was doing some heavy lifting LOL

and mustve signified something

[old turtle]

If you look at that prompt, 70% of it is setup, but there's only 2 actual questions in the prompt that you need to answer.

The setup is mostly distraction

Meant to prime the reader into answering the questions from a certain angle, which you don't explicitly have to do

[twin adder]

it wouldve been kinda metal to get pton and mit tho

LOL

but alternatively you can say i made it through the pton and mit admissions office without getting rejected

all about perspective kids

[white marten]

I can say that about Pton lol at least until March 27

[twin adder]

hahahahah

[white marten]

Hopefully longer lol

[twin adder]

princeton rd

what a time

[pliant flame]

does it have to be about this

[twin adder]

no not at all

just like

any sort of thing that is a diverse perspective of yours

identity or surroundings

[pliant flame]

i see, so its pretty open ended

[old turtle]

Or look at my comment 1 page up...

[tender karma]

Would someone be willing to read my response to this prompt?

[quasi spoke]

whch prompt

oh the diversity one

[tender karma]

Yeah

[gilded bear]

wait how would you connect it to pton

you got in?!

congrats!

hmm

[old turtle]

someone understood the prompt...

[gilded bear]

so should i connect or continue yapping along the line im going

[old turtle]

also, congrats!

[gilded bear]

well this part was confusing me:

As a prospective member of this community, reflect on how your lived experiences will impact the conversations you will have in the classroom, the dining hall or other campus spaces.

[old turtle]

If you look at that prompt, 70% of it is setup, but there's only 2 actual questions in the prompt that you need to answer.

The setup is meant to prime the reader into answering the questions from a certain angle, which you don't explicitly have to do

[white marten]

The main question is “how has your lived experience shape you”

[south hamlet]

is it bad if all 3 of my short answer prompts for "new skill", "joy", and "soundtrack of my life" r just completely unrelated to one another and doesnt rly connect to the rest of my application/profile? I feel like theres only so much meaning u can convey through 50 words

[white marten]

that is not bad at all

[median zealot]

nah those are supposed to be fun

I wrote about photography, coffee, and some random song that I like

which literally had nothing to do with the rest of my app

[white marten]

note taking, nascar, and hummel's trumpet concerto 💀

[south hamlet]

wait what coffee? i think ur js a caffeine addict coping

[median zealot]

nah man i'm like a coffee fiend

not bc of the caffeine but bc of the taste

[twin elm]

i loved the 50 word ones

[twin elm]

has anyone gotten their acceptance packages yet

[twin adder]

you dont

its just what youd bring to pton

[grim urchin]

i have 2 possible graded written papers to submit, one is a 4 page eng lit text analysis essay, and the other is an econ IA that is better than the english one but has multiple questions (2 eight markers and 1 four marker). is multiple questions (all relating to the same topic) fine or should i just submit the eng lit essay?

[south hamlet]

Lmao i hate this grade paper thing too… in terms of graded paper ive got to either submit a paper graded as a C for lit or this freshman yr history paper

[wanton kernel]

The only paper I have that’s good is a 11 page historical research paper - im splitting it up into a forth tho so its only 2 with citations, you guys think thats fine?

I’m assuming everyone is gonna be combing over theirs again anyway so doing something like that is prob fine no?

[humble stream]

multiple questions should be fine

you mean like it’s addressing multiple prompts right?

[hallow jay]

yea!

[white marten]

I’ll get mine in April trust

[twin elm]

Dang still waiting on mine😔

[old turtle]

I mean, it happens. But is it really worth the extra effort when you can only attend... one school?

[mild spindle]

technically

not really

but it'd make a neat flex

if thats your thing

[old turtle]

Like I said, there are kids who sweep HYPSM, happens every year

[gilded bear]

well hym

s doesn't belong there

[south hamlet]

Well i mean technically u could if u could maybe get better financial aid but

1. Thats a lot more effort for potentially no benefits
2. That would be a dick move for all of us that r still tryna get in

Also do y’all think operation research & financial engineering or electrical & computer engineering would be more competitive

[gilded bear]

idt princeton admits by major

[south hamlet]

Ik like 99% of schools say that but it prolly factors in bc at the end of the day they still have to put together a class of 2029 and for example if there’s a lotta cs applicants theyre prolly gonna reject a lotta cs applicants

[gilded bear]

most schools do not say that bruh

and if they admitted by major, why would it be so easy to switch to a competitive major?

[south hamlet]

I mean they might not officially/directly do so but when building a class they prolly do take into account ppl’s selected academic interests bc y else would they ask for them? It might be easy to switch bc its not a huge problem there as it is in other schools like GT

[gilded bear]

they're just interested in what your academic interests are

it's not deeper than that

you don't even declare until sophomore year iirc

so your choices on the common app aren't binding

also similar institutions like cornell do say they consider college/major

[south hamlet]

True

[mild spindle]

fair enough honestly

[old turtle]

I think it's harder to stand out as a CS oriented high school applicant now. ORFE was/is considered the easy engineering major

And I think howdareyou is right. There is some consideration taken for potential major, otherwise certain departments would have a hard filling. That said, some departments as just small, like ASTRO or classics

[frosty crescent]

guys

this graded paper is messing with me

can i

as a cs major

send an economics assignment

which i am proud of

[old turtle]

Does it meet the guidelines?

[frosty crescent]

yes.

[old turtle]

Then do it

[frosty crescent]

but its econ

[jade sage]

I think they just want to see your writing

[frosty crescent]

can't they use the freakin essays for that😭😭

[old turtle]

Yeah, the guidelines don't say it has to be in your field

No, completely different purpose

Analytical writing!= personal statement writing

[jade sage]

I just did one from English last year

As long as it is quality writing that displays your style and ability

[old turtle]

Does the princeton application ask you your prospective major or majors?

I think it used to

[gilded bear]

It asks you for:

1. Major 1 + Minor/Certificate 1
2. Major 2 + Minor/Certificate 2

[old turtle]

I wonder how they balance it across regions. I guess they probably approximate and then assume people will change

There's always a hot major. In my day, it was ChemE

Don't remember how many, some huge class

[gilded bear]

Really?

I know 0 people who want to do ChemE irl

[old turtle]

It was something like... ChemE made the most money at the time

Suddenly there were a bunch of them

[gilded bear]

Sounds suspiciously like another major right now...

[old turtle]

CS?

[gilded bear]

Yes

[old turtle]

I think everyone should take cs126 as a basic skill

[gilded bear]

For comp bio, what would the ideal major be?

Right now I have:

1. CS
2. BioE

[old turtle]

You need bio. It's a whole chain and the more you understand, the better

Our team has clinicians, surgeons, experimental biologists and I'm the data person

[gilded bear]

Yeah I have heard that but I put CS because my plans may change

[old turtle]

And even then, due to the specifics of our work, we have an immunologist, someone who specializes in regulation and business interactions

It's a whole operation

[gilded bear]

Was thinking of this alongside: https://lsi.princeton.edu/education/undergraduate-certificate-quantitative-computational-biology/certificate-requirements

[sterile terrace]

yall can the graded written paper be handwritten

or should it be typed

[gilded bear]

I'm just not sure if I could get enough bio knowledge with a CS major

[old turtle]

Yeah, I really wished that existed when I was there

[gilded bear]

Well the one I'm going to submit is handwritten but it should preferably be typed I think

[old turtle]

Does it fit the guidelines?

[gilded bear]

My classes really have not had much typed stuff

[sterile terrace]

it just says submit a graded written paper with a rubric and teacher's comments

[old turtle]

There's a page that has the guidelines, there's more than that

[gilded bear]

Wait a sec I emailed them this exact question and they pasted in some more specific guidelines

[old turtle]

Yeah, it's on the website

[sterile terrace]

oh wait okay

[sterile terrace]

oh can you send it here?

[old turtle]

And also, they're guidelines, so you can bend a few of them

Google it

Or search the history here

I've posted it

[sterile terrace]

We ask all students to submit a graded written paper for consideration as part of their application to Princeton.

When selecting a paper to submit, please keep in mind the following guidelines:

The paper should be writing done for an academic course, preferably an English, social studies or history course, during the last three years of secondary school, including senior year.

You may send a paper, essay, research paper or essay exam. We are interested in seeing expository writing only, not creative writing.

One to two pages in length is sufficient.

The paper should include the course instructor’s grade, and comments if your instructor provided any.

The grade and the teacher comments should appear on the paper. If a grading rubric was used, please include this information along with your paper. The Admission Office is more interested in the quality of the writing than the grade it received and encourages you to submit a graded written paper that shows your best efforts, regardless of the grade.

If your school does not offer grades for student work, please submit teacher comments and a rubric.

hm this is all i could find

[gilded bear]

We require all applicants to submit a graded written paper as part of their application to Princeton, with the following guidelines:

Please do your best to adhere to the following guidelines set by the Office of Admission for all applicants.

• The paper should be completed for an academic course that appears on your transcript, preferably an English, social studies or history course, during the last three years of secondary school (including senior year). Your Graded Written Paper should reflect your current writing abilities.
• You may send a paper, essay, research paper, or essay exam. We are interested in seeing expository writing only, not creative writing.
• The paper need not exceed 2 pages or about 1000 words in length, but in cases where the length exceeds this guideline please submit the paper in its entirety rather than a truncated section.
• The paper should include the course instructor's grade when available, in addition to comments or feedback.
• If you cannot provide a graded written paper that meets all of the guidelines, we will review whatever you submit. Although we would like to review teacher comments and grades, we are most interested in your written expression in an academic setting and will review your graded written paper without the comments or grade.

We have no preference if the paper is typed or handwritten, as long as it is legible.

_ _

The graded written paper will help the admission office assess the student’s written expression in an academic setting. This will further the holistic understanding of the student’s application and help admission officers evaluate the student’s potential contributions to and ability to thrive in the University’s rigorous academic environment.

Please do not write a paper and have it evaluated solely for the purposes of our graded written paper requirement.

While the graded written paper is a required part of the application, we understand that not all applicants in all curriculums will be able to fulfill this requirement. We are not able to waive the requirement; therefore, your graded written paper will remain incomplete on your checklist if one is not submitted. However, we will still give applications submitted without graded papers a full review and make an informed decision about the student's writing ability with the available information in the rest of the application.

[old turtle]

🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[sterile terrace]

oh alright

[gilded bear]

Sorry for the spam 😭

[sterile terrace]

it can be handwritten too

[gilded bear]

But that's the info they gave

[sterile terrace]

perfect thanks

[gilded bear]

It's more specific than the website info

[old turtle]

https://admission.princeton.edu/apply/graded-written-paper

[gilded bear]

Yes but for legibility concerns, it's obviously safer to send a typed paper

[old turtle]

The same language is here

[gilded bear]

But no problem if you don't have that

[gilded bear]

Well this has some extra stuff about word count, written vs typed, and truncation

[old turtle]

Gotcha, didn't catch that

I guess they'll update the language next year?

[gilded bear]

Hopefully

It looked like a copy pasted email anyways because there was nothing personalized in it lol

It's funny that they say this but so many feeder schools do it

[old turtle]

I mean, in high school, there was a week when we worked on personal statements, but that was it

[sterile terrace]

yeye gotcha

[old turtle]

that said, a prep school isn't doing their due diligence if they aren't aware of these things

[white marten]

I got my graded paper returned to me like three days before the deadline lol

[ionic siren]

can it be a timed write because i generally perform better on timed writes

[white marten]

Idk

[ionic siren]

thanks

me neither

😭

[sterile terrace]

anything you wrote for preferably an english or social studies class that you received a grade for

[ionic siren]

great

[south hamlet]

when they say "during the last three years of secondary school, including senior year."... does that exclude freshman yr 😭

this yr: i haven't gotten above above a C on an essay
last yr: 99% of my essays were creative writing
sophomore yr: i can't access the comments/grading for the one research paper that i did do

which leaves my one research paper from freshman year

[twin elm]

Does anyone have experience with the computer reimbursement thing

[sterile terrace]

i dont think your grade matters all that much

[south hamlet]

But like a 78? 🫣

[white marten]

It doesn’t matter as long as it’s good writing

[sterile terrace]

yep, they only care about how you write outside of this whole "application" context; the instructor's grade shouldnt play much weightage

[sterile terrace]

plus the guidelines state that it should be from the last 3 years of HS so freshman year wouldnt be included regardless..

[south hamlet]

I mean its not the best writing since it was an impromptu… u think i could submit my revision? Bc we got an assignment to revise that impromptu and i also got a separate grade/comments for that

[white marten]

You’ll find something that’ll work

[old turtle]

It's guidelines, not rules. They know people's situations are varied

[twin adder]

yall i mightve missed an A in my stats class by 0.85😭

i tried to calculate it myself and i think if i did everything right the raw score is just at the top end of the A- range

winter break woes

[hard palm]

Rip :(

[twin adder]

yeah ok they posted the A- lmao

[twin adder]

hey cooked 29

hows it goin

[median zealot]

orf?

[white marten]

Well at least you got an A overall, or does Princeton assign different GPA values to A-?

[old turtle]

Different values. A- is what, a 3.7?

[median zealot]

A- is 3.7

[old turtle]

That's rough... 0.85 points for an A

[hard palm]

Decent haha

Christmas is always fun but writing rd essays is not

[heavy breach]

i hate gpa systems that give a 3.7 for an A-

i like the idea of a 4.3 for an A+

[median zealot]

they discontinued that like 25 years ago sadly

[white marten]

shucks

[steady tendon]

feel free to dm

[ionic siren]

you got this!

love u too jeni we're gonna make it

[white marten]

i literally dont care about princeton anymore

it feels weird

[hard palm]

I envy you

[hallow jay]

trophy hunting is not cool bro. you're just taking spots from other ppl and wasting everyone's time and money

[ionic siren]

fr

[sweet bramble]

How important is Princeton interview

[hallow jay]

if my counselor found out i was doing that shit she would beat my ass

not trying to write more essays anyways

[tender karma]

He’s going off of the premise that you got accepted into Princeton already

[viscid palm]

which definitely makes it a dick move

and merry christmas for EST ppl

[twin adder]

i can if u havent already dm'd me

[split hawk]

Spending my christmas writing supplementals🔥 🔥 🔥

[ionic siren]

he means you ea accepted princeton, then still go for the rest

[twin adder]

you can apply to other schools RD ethically imo

because

[hard palm]

Idk

Especially if Princeton is your top school and you know you're committing there... why?

[old turtle]

To be fair, a lot of people still apply to all 5 in RD

[fair marsh]

Real

[fair marsh]

Id say its meh. My interview was 15 minutes

Take that as you will

[sweet bramble]

In person?

[sweet bramble]

@fair marsh

[uneven drum]

Can I submit my graded paper a day or two after the deadline?

[halcyon hare]

for the “in which program of study do you think you would like to major in princeton” there’s option

princeton school of public and international affairs

but isn’t that for graduate school students?

[ionic terrace]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_School_of_Public_and_International_Affairs#Undergraduate_program

[halcyon hare]

thanksss sweetheart

[fair marsh]

Saw this late sorry. No, on zoom

[hard palm]

Oh yeah for sure. I just mean if you get into pton EA and it's your top choice

This is a very valid reason though

Princeton has probably the most meh financial aid out of all the NPCs I've ran

[fair marsh]

Yea ofc!

[twin adder]

no, SPIA is like a school for undergrads too

[ionic terrace]

How many people with mediocre ECs get into Princeton

[frank pike]

I'm planning on sending my SAT score today. Do I need to do rush shipping, or is it alright if it comes slightly later?

like regular shipping says 5-10 business days, so it might end up getting there on Jan 3 instead of the first. Is that still alright?

[ionic terrace]

The official score can arrive late

[hard palm]

Thank you for reminding me haha

I definitely would've forgot

[remote cipher]

Hey real quick - with a 1420 should i go test-opt or not

I think yes but im not fully sure

[twin adder]

hahaha a lot

if youre like a legacy or from a feeder or the child of a professor or your parents donated a fuck ton of money

[ionic terrace]

How many people who don't fall into those categories

[twin adder]

how am i supposed to know

am i the princeton god?

[ionic terrace]

Indubitably

[twin adder]

i would say like maybe a few hundred per class dont have super crazy extracurriculars

the standards are evaluated by income and school and environment

so if youre questbridge or low income or first gen, i think a lot of those kids probably have more moderately impressive ecs

i think theres also value in writing and storytelling quality

if you havent done that much in ecs but you can write really compellingly that counts for something

[remote cipher]

So like

1420

should i submit or go tO

[twin adder]

no

its too far below the mean

[remote cipher]

ok

[old turtle]

Does bent spoon still hand these out?

[steady tendon]

wait what

im so jealous

idt they do that

anymore

[ashen burrow]

Is a typed document okay for Princeton's graded paper?

[ashen burrow]

whats the mean

[ionic siren]

yeah in fact i think it's better, you dont want to run the risk of them not being able to read handwriting

[ashen burrow]

my friend says handwritten provides reassurance that the work isn't plagiarized

[ionic siren]

they have plagiarism detectors (turnitin)

[ashen burrow]

does that stuff actually work

[ionic siren]

ai detectors are bs so dont worry about the ai detectors, but plagiarism detectors have been in use and are largely credible

[ashen burrow]

and this is particularly a problem for me because i can deadass write something in front of my teacher and show it to her and she'll be like 'did you use chatgpt' (if she didnt see me writing it that is)

i write in a very chatgpt-like way and have been since before chatgpt

[ashen burrow]

Oh cool

[ionic siren]

yeah dont worry about that

ai detectors are separate and different from plagiarism detectors

[ashen burrow]

Awesome

[twin adder]

mean = average

[ashen burrow]

i meant whats the mean at cornell

cornell 💀

why do i keep saying cornell

i mean princeton

also i googled it after asking you so

nbd

it said 1520 online

[twin adder]

LMFAO CORNELL?

[ashen burrow]

bro

im sorry

[twin adder]

i didnt apply to that depressing ass school

[ashen burrow]

idk whats wrong with me

i cant stop calling princeton cornell today

ive done it like 10 times

[twin adder]

although we did have 2 ... yk in my year at pton freshman year

so maybe i cant criticize too much

[ashen burrow]

💀

... yk is crazy

[twin adder]

what else am i supposed to say

no it was so bad

everyone was like wtf

but class and all just went on

[twin adder]

i think thats pre covid honestly

[ashen burrow]

?

[ashen burrow]

what might it be now

[twin adder]

after test optional i would guess the submitted score probably averages like, 1550

[ashen burrow]

alr

[twin adder]

if not like 1570 or 1580

no way to know really

[ashen burrow]

should i submit a 1580 if it's not an 800 in math @twin adder

[twin adder]

since they dont tell us much these days

[twin adder]

are you joking😭

[ashen burrow]

kinda 💀

[twin adder]

what are high schoolers these days being told

im aghast and incredulous

[ashen burrow]

but not entirely

im like

70% joking

[twin adder]

like i was a tweaker over stats a little bit but you need to have the bigger picture bruh

[remote cipher]

so like 1420 is a TO (gpa 4.18 because of some pre-reqs i had to take that they only had as regular)

[ashen burrow]

💀

[twin adder]

no its so crazy because

i thought my year was insane

with like how intense and online everyone getting into hypsm was

and every year it gets worse😭

[ionic siren]

just dont do it in the interview

[twin adder]

like everyone thought i was crazy for beating myself up for a 1510 unti i got 1550+

and now we have kids asking if 1580 is good enough

[ionic siren]

"should i submit 1600 if i didnt get every single question right"

[twin adder]

is it a 790 790?

[twin adder]

RIGHT

[remote cipher]

i uhh have a 1420 and i know im like rare to get in

[coral flare]

can I have some ideas of what to submit for my graded written paper

[twin adder]

THIS IS WHAT YOU GUYS SOUND LIKE

[remote cipher]

but like im 14 so

yeah

cooked

[ashen burrow]

yuh

[remote cipher]

half cooked

if i go to maybe not cooked

[ashen burrow]

😭

[twin adder]

the answer is yes submit but also what r u applying for

[ashen burrow]

mechanical engineering lol

second choice electrical

third choice i forgor

[twin adder]

Test optional works worse they can assume you like failed lmao

[ashen burrow]

💀

[twin adder]

yeah i had a 790/770 and it was fine

dont worry about it

[white marten]

as i continue to write for RD i realize how kinda bad my princeton supps were

[twin adder]

high schooler discovers self-growth

[remote cipher]

so like

[white marten]

i know lol i love it

[remote cipher]

im sorry

i really dont know

what should i do

to or not

i know you said

but now im worried

it will be like

[twin adder]

ivy rea applicant discovers self awareness and improvement

sorry

[remote cipher]

"1200 out!"

[twin adder]

just clowning yall

[remote cipher]

so like

still TO right

it wont look like 1200 right

[twin adder]

dont submit a 1420

and ^ if you have a 1580, essays and ecs are what you should worry about

they will see the score and be like alright thats fine

and look for what else is compelling about you

[white marten]

i feel like at this point the ONLY thing you should worrya bout at all is writing

you cant cram ECs or another SAT

just focus on your writing

[analog mountain]

I have a 1490 (720RW, 770M) what about me?

[white marten]

id submit that

remember that the test score medians are artificially higher because of test optional

the more accurate reflection of test score medians would be found in2019 admissions

1490 is probably still below 25 percentile

[twin adder]

we should just have a voice channel ask-me-anything at this point

and everyone can ask their stats and ecs questions

[white marten]

but again, if you go TO they will assume its worse

[twin adder]

LMAO

[white marten]

(they wont)

but

I would still submit it, because a 1490 isnt a bad score

its only 30 points off of mine and i submitted

[twin adder]

i think 1490 is fine

not ideal

[analog mountain]

its just barely off the range of 1500+ and it really bothers me

[pliant flame]

Should I submit a 1590? I was thinking test optional

[twin adder]

they wanna see like 1550 ideally but anything is fine

[twin adder]

LMFAO

what yall sound like rn

[analog mountain]

😭😭

[old turtle]

I wonder if they would still honor them

[old turtle]

This is a joke, right?

[hard palm]

You need at least a 3500/3600 for Princeton smh

[pliant flame]

Fully serious, can’t be applying as a humanities major with a 790 English!

[old turtle]

There were 3? across classes in my time there. I knew two of them, one was illness. Since then, there have been a few more around my class overall over time. It's very jarring to see it in the PAW, especially since I knew them

[old turtle]

Yeah, I was a science major with an 800 verbal

[green finch]

Blud this school isn’t mit💀

[gilded bear]

Yoo I got the same score

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[twin adder]

okay now

lets not get crazy here

put some respect on pton's name

[green finch]

Pton is fire but they care more about your overall than your math that’s all I’m saying😭

[twin adder]

it depends if ur applying for math and engineering or not

[gilded bear]

Why are you comparing Princeton and MIT?

[coral flare]

for princeton can i just upload the first two pages of a 6 page paper?

[gilded bear]

No, don't truncate

[twin adder]

i had a 790 and got waitlisted from mit soooo

its not really that determinative

[gilded bear]

L school anyways

[green finch]

The 790 tbh does not matter

[twin adder]

haha my friends at mit are dying

[green finch]

I know an MOP kid that got 790

[twin adder]

saying its too hard

[green finch]

Does that mean he’s bad at math?

[gilded bear]

Well the scent...

[green finch]

Like it’s one mistake basically means jack

[gilded bear]

Yes

Why would you make a mistake when you can just not?

[green finch]

Based

[twin adder]

lmfaoo omg i literally

didnt change a 2 to negative moving it to the other side of an equation

on the math section

i remember this

and it had no implications on my life

[gilded bear]

Well you still remember

So clearly it did

[coral flare]

why not?

[median zealot]

Omg

You should gatekeep that

That’s so cool

[gilded bear]

#1268244147962118265 message

Here's some more info on that

[remote cipher]

Will they grade it?

[gilded bear]

Wdym

[remote cipher]

like

will they assign a grade to the paper

and tell you the grade

[gilded bear]

No

[remote cipher]

ok

[warm panther]

no dont submit

go test optional

💯

your score is a poor reflection of your ability as a potential engineer you MUST go test optional if you want even a CHANCE at princeton /s

bro im applying here with a 1530 Superscore relaxxxxx

[old turtle]

I guess I'll hold onto them then!

[twin adder]

LMFAOAOAO

yall make me laugh

[sudden sky]

What is the sound of y’all’s lives guys

[twin adder]

i did motion sickness by pheobe bridgers

[warm panther]

you know what doesnt make me laugh

[sudden sky]

Song

[warm panther]

this shit DONT make me laugh

this got me TWEAKING

[twin adder]

thank god i never saw this

i wouldve gotten recruited to tweakers university

[warm panther]

did you get in rea or rd

[twin adder]

ha rd

hopefully you do too!

[warm panther]

hopefully man

dude look what i have to do now

i have to load a shotgun

and shoot like 13 bullets

hoping one of them lands

and im intl who needs aid so like fire

[sudden sky]

Do yall have any tips for the Song Essay

[tender karma]

Pick a fun one

[ionic siren]

as long as it's not inappropriate you're good

[sudden sky]

It’s a struggle lol in the sense that there’s always at least something that will blow up the choices lol

[ionic siren]

lmaoo

[heavy breach]

yeah i might be cooked

i really dont want to put a twenty one pilots song though 😭

[timid island]

how do i even start writing the 500-word essya for princeotn

[median zealot]

do you have stuff from another school that's also like a community/diversity essay

[heavy breach]

isnt the other one more community tho

650 word feels like another peersonal statement ngl

[timid island]

yeah from harvard's 150-word diversity essay

but that's like it

[median zealot]

honestly this essay to me is almost like a second personal statement so you could work with that maybe

[timid island]

yeah i agree

any tips for the community service essay?

[tender karma]

You can try talking about why a certain community service experience matters to you

[heavy breach]

i talked about advocacy

[frosty crescent]

i did exactly that....am i not unique😱😱

lmfao jk

i wrote about the work i love, who cares if its common

[tender karma]

lol it’ll still be unique in that the experiences differ

[twin adder]

find why u wanna go

write about it

and yeah community service is asking for like your civic engagement

with your community or local government basically

[old turtle]

I don't know if they still have the holepunch for it. I might get the last card filled out

[white marten]

Yall are overthinking this test shit, I submitted a 1520 770/750 and didn’t get outright rejected yet

[jolly wasp]

710/800 deferred too

[fossil python]

780/800 submitted art supplement - deferred

[remote rock]

for this question do we need to link it to something already at Princeton? like a club or course?

Princeton values community and encourages students, faculty, staff and leadership to engage in respectful conversations that can expand their perspectives and challenge their ideas and beliefs. As a prospective member of this community, reflect on how your lived experiences will impact the conversations you will have in the classroom, the dining hall or other campus spaces. What lessons have you learned in life thus far? What will your classmates learn from you? In short, how has your lived experience shaped you? (500 words or fewer)*

[fossil python]

I just wrote a story from my childhood and then connected it to seeking out new perspectives and tied it to how I will continue to do that at Princeton (Eating clubs, etc)

[remote rock]

thanks

but we don't need to talk abotu a club in here right? Princeton has a longstanding commitment to understanding our responsibility to society through service and civic engagement. How does your own story intersect with these ideals? (250 words or fewer)*

[fossil python]

That one I only mentioned Pton at the end at how I will continue my contributions in the college

[royal slate]

did you get in pton?

[fossil python]

deferred

[fossil python]

^

[median zealot]

i personally did but I don't think it's absolutely necessary

[white marten]

I barely mentioned princeton

none of the sentences with question marks ask you to connect it to princeton

[median zealot]

it definitely doesn't hurt though if you've found something at princeton that is related to what you're talking about

[old turtle]

I wouldn't talk about eating clubs, I wouldn't do too much reference to childhood unless it's a very impactful story. Talking about you now is more interesting

[white marten]

That's what I did

[white marten]

my music PS dealt with that plus part of my why major

plus princeton doesnt have a rural students network, as far as my internet searches told me

unless im tripping

[twin adder]

no

its like about your own beliefs

[remote rock]

aight bet. thanks

[tropic surge]

Does anyone know whether its ok like.. not to send the graded written paper in?

like

the way my HS curriculum has been I've really been like exclusively STEM

and I haven't been able to find any of my older History/Eng papers

[jade sage]

Well it’s an admissions requirement

[tropic surge]

welp

My counselor has a doc she sends in which explains that due to our curriculum etc. etc. STEM students don't tend to have a paper to submit

but... I think Princeton's the only Ivy that my school never gets students admitted to lol

so

[hard palm]

From what I understand, Princeton involves a lot of paper writing, which is why they ask for it

Do you have anything from your STEM classes, like a detailed lab report you could use?

[ionic terrace]

I have searched up every admissions officer listed on Princeton's website and as far as I can tell not a single one majored in math or philosophy

How does that even happen

At Princeton of all places

[jade sage]

The Princeton 500 genuinely might cook me

I have a first draft but it is so first draft quality

[tropic surge]

ok I might have something... not a lab report but could I maybe use my IELTS practices lmaooo

it has teacher comments... and some grades

jesus christ

I found a bunch of econs essays I did

...they're all from 9th grade

fml

[jade sage]

How crazy specific should the lived experience essay be? I cover some broad topics and things I have learned, should I have very specific lessons and expand them to specific things that I could do on campus?

[hallow jay]

yea im talking rea or ea acceptance to your top school

[hallow jay]

this is what im saying it seems like on all fronts a morally wrong thing to do, just for your own ego

[hallow jay]

yea my interview wasn't spectacular. i didnt bomb it or anything but it was a little awk

i havent gotten my package yet bcs they wanted more info for a specific thing, but i figure that no other school is really gonna beat their aid (except maybe mit?). pton will either be equal or better aid and its my top pick so theres no real reason for me to apply anywhere else

[hallow jay]

mine werent wild but i told a good story to connect them

[jade sage]

@hallow jay did you use a narrative for your lived experience essay?

[hallow jay]

wdym? it wasnt like a specific experience, more a general thematic retelling

very reflective ig?

[jade sage]

Oh okay, that’s sort of what I’m going for

[hallow jay]

but thats not to say thats what u have to do. whatever floats ur boat

[jade sage]

But there’s a part where I want to talk about a specific experience but I don’t want to just go full narrative in the middle of the essay lol, maybe I should just talk about the experience?

I feel like it would be better to keep the same style throughout

[hallow jay]

thats true, but another way is to start with the experience and then generalize (this taught me x, shaped me in y way, so i will do z at pton)

[jade sage]

Okay, thanks

[white marten]

By the way if you’re struggling to connect it to Princeton, you don’t have to. It never actually asks you to

[hallow jay]

yea i just mentioned how i would use what i learned from those experiences in a college environment, not specifically pton

[white marten]

Did something similar by closing it out with something like “And just maybe, if my classmates at Princeton ask what rural life is all about, I’ll have some stories to tell.” Or something like that

[weak iron]

guys for this: As a research institution that also prides itself on its liberal arts curriculum, Princeton allows students to explore areas across the humanities and the arts, the natural sciences, and the social sciences. What academic areas most pique your curiosity, and how do the programs offered at Princeton suit your particular interests? (Please respond in 250 words or fewer)*

if i wanna study stem should i talk about other interests

or is stem fine

[white marten]

talk about what you want to study

[humble stream]

dont force it but if there are other areas that you want to explore its worth mentioning imo

[weak iron]

hmmm

okayy right

thanks

[twin adder]

stem

mostly

and then maybe some minors or course sequences that might compliment stem with your interests

[weak iron]

Hmm yeah

I talked mainly abt algebraic geometry and was like number theory is cool as well

[drowsy oracle]

what are your sat scores

[weak iron]

1540

Why

[warm panther]

yo im like shotgunning now and im deadass so glad i applied to pricneton rea

i mean i realize now that my essays were a lot shittier then than they are now

but princeton was so recycable and im so glad i havent come across a fat ass 500 prompt like theirs

[white marten]

Cornell with the 650

But yeah I agree

[ionic siren]

i love the long ones guys

[jade sage]

Yeah I did the first draft in one go at a library so I’ll definitely need to redo that lol

[weak iron]

bruh my confidence in my essays is exponentially decreasing with time

😬

the more days pass the more im like nahah

[jade sage]

Same, but eventually we all need to click the submit button

Just do your best

[weak iron]

shit man

is it bad that my essays have basically nothing to do with my activities...

i feel like i shouldnt repeat

but also it kinda looks like my activities were just for show and no meaning

[jade sage]

I mean it’s not bad to talk about them a bit more

I guess it would just depend on the context and the essay topic

[weak iron]

hmm

[vestal dew]

What SAT score would yall recomend not submitting

[weak iron]

Anything below 1500?

[vestal dew]

What if it is 1500 on the dot

[frank pike]

that should be fine

[warm panther]

💯

did you get deferred too

how many?

im loading up all the bullets in the shotgun

i have 13 rds

i finished 8

gonna finish like 2 more before going to bed

yes lmfaoo

nah bro browns video

or whatever that is

im tryna submit by jan 1 to lock in on that video

[serene tinsel]

how do yall write so many essays im still trying to understand the prompts 😭

[jade sage]

Honestly I write a lot of useless stuff before I can get something slightly useable lol

[ionic siren]

tbh dont think about the prompt too much

[twin adder]

bruh submit that

[vestal dew]

Really? Cause I thought you shouldn't submit if its below 50%

Also the no superscoring between paper and digital really kneecapped me

[white marten]

This line of thinking is why the median is so high

If everyone had to submit the median would be like 1520-1530

[twin adder]

1500 is fine

its worse to not submit

princeton desont like that

[gentle rapids]

25th percentile is prob a better metric

[jade sage]

Especially if you are at a school that isn’t super competitive, a 1500/34 should be fine I think?

[fair marsh]

Please why wouldn’t u submit a 1500😭

[jade sage]

Online college apps

Bro they fr ruin confidence for so many people, me included

[fair marsh]

Ugh don’t listen to those things bruh

[jade sage]

Yeah I’ve decided to stop believing them, and realize that I’m not a SOCAL applicant

[grim dock]

any princeton ppl willing to share some club names 🥲

the clubs list is locked

looking for pre-med clubs, bio or research clubs, asian culutre clubs, world cultures clubs, service clubs, language clubs

[lost briar]

princeton people how we feeling

[ionic siren]

lowkey just google this and add "princeton" and lots of clubs have websites

that's what i did

[grim dock]

Oh right 💀

I’m so lazy rn guys

[ionic siren]

so real

[grim dock]

I can’t write anymore

[ionic siren]

facts i have 1 essay to go in total and i burned out

[grim dock]

I’m gonna promise myself ima finish Princeton today

Like finish finish