#Princeton University (2024-2025)
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idk i think for me personally its probably one of the institutions that suits my needs most
but i could see an argument for most other schools being number one too
In what ways?
i got the sense that the advising and adjustment period was really good and the location/environment is ideal for me
plus they offer the major i want as an individual degree and not a concentration of biology lol
That being?
also i like the flexibility
ecology and evolutionary biology
SAME
GOATED
They are one of the very few institutions that have disease ecology and medical entomology researchers as faculty who actually teach courses on those subjects to undergrad
Plus they will be prime opportunities for undergraduate research š¼
ong go tigers
Princeton actually used to be my least favorite Ivy (because itās in New Jersey and Iām a hater strictly for the comedic value) and then I actually began looking at it and now itās probably my favorite or second favorite
what's your other favorite?
Dartmouth
validdd
When I went to Princeton, it wasn't considered number 1. I think Harvard was #1 back then. As far as undergrad focus, you can't beat Princeton.
As you gain more perspective, there's good and bad things about Princeton. Many of those things come hand in hand. Less clinical research... But that's because there's no med/dental/vet school
Physics and math are top notch. But within sub fields there's still strengths and weaknesses as well
Honestly, what's important is if you think it's a good fit for you
Rather than, "it's number 1, therefore I should go"
I guess that's not easy to know a priori, but you can do your best
mine went to my high school
i think they purposefully pair up interviewers like that
yes duh...
Unless the regional officer knows everyone in the area, it probably wasn't intentional. They also try to avoid the appearance of bias, but that's up to the interviewer to determine
My parents have their tax return online, do they have to print all like 30 and sign it? And is signing the first page enough? Never heard of sending a signed tax return
yes.
yeah i had to do that š
Can they print/sign only the first 2 pages then submit the rest digitally?
@humble stream is that what ur parents did
im pretty sure my parents printed out the whole thing bc they didnt wanna merge pdfs but if youre able to only print the pages you need to sign i dont see why not
i did my princeton interview yesterday! if anyone has questions i can try to answer
How was it and what did yall talk about
@bleak current wondering the same ^
omg how did it went
btw if my parents dont have any tax return(international student), just the non-filer form and their monthly income statements for 2023 would be enough right
This seems like something that you should probably ask the admissions office through email
I actually did, waiting for a response rn
The admissions office gives a little bit of guidance and a lot of flexibility, so everyone is going to get interviewed differently
i think it went really well! my interviewer was more formal about it and wanted to stay within the time we had reserved so i tried to stretch it as long as i could, we ended up going over anyways lol
definitely before the interview have a āwhy princetonā response ready to go because that was the first thing she asked me
Ewwww formal interviews sound like an L
All of my interviews have lowkey just been me chatting
yeah i just tried to be enthusiastic about what resources princeton had and tried to lighten the atmosphere by cracking jokes and what not and it was definitely more casual by the end of it haha
Financial aid
If my parents can't receive their payrolls in English, will it create a problem if I submit them in Turkish(I already uploaded them in Turkish but the financial aid office just doesn't return back to me rn ım so stressed)
I submitted their non-filer statements with signatures and monthly payrolls in 2023 as income statements(their only income source is their wages so payrolls must be enough)
yeah this is standard
i think they give a list of standard questions
but dont force it you can just be like its an excellent school and name some programs
obv a lot a people wanna go to pton
They actually don't give us a standard list of questions. What we have to do is write a report afterwards based off of 2 prompts
No
dont do that
2 hours later
Hands down yes
How come
Well I did an intern there for 2 summers and I just felt that the vibe was on point, everyone was super nice/a little bit nerdy, campus is beautiful, and theres so many events there like you could just stroll in there and they let you take food and stuff
LMAO
omg two summers interning at princeton
i dont really think people here are nerdy for the most part
im lowkey a horrible stuednt
i just get by
Thatās why I said a bit lol
Just got an interview email lol. Was getting scared for a sec
Too bad its over zoom though. I was really looking forward to an inperson one
Is there any confirmation on what day decisions will be sent out?
i wish š
It was December 15 last year which is a Sunday this year
I am not tryna get rejected on a Sunday night
im pretty sure they try not to release on weekends
maybe its the 13th before that..?
friday the 13th decision date would be 
i mean based on similar schools yales is the 17th so idk whats up or down anymore
Earlier is better so Iām motivated to do my damn RD applications instead of pretending Iāll get in
ikr
im doing them anyway now to distract myself š š
Last year rea came out on Thursday
Idk why I thought it was December 15
If it was the 14th then 13th def seems possible
Or 12th even
Manifesting
They will tell you the week of
You can't control the outcome. If you get in, great. If you don't - you have to do more applications. If you fear the negative outcome, take that effort and put it into your RD applications
same
mine is virtual too
i turned in pfaa late will it reflect poorly on my application
no
finaid is a different department!
dont worry about it
š thank god
I didn't submit financial aid until after my decision... By policy, they literally don't care
The M.S.E. program is a two year, full-time program of coursework plus submission of an original thesis.
ah yes princeton using both "advisor" and "Adviser" š
we like to keep an open mind at princeton
schrƶdinger's spelling
yall if you delete ur classes off ur google calendar they dont exist
fun fact
im a full time ponderer and building admirer here
favorite spot?
so many
im in sakrid coffee rn near rockefeller
the seats outside firestone are a stellar view of the church
but the admissions office area is really nice and the upperclassmen housing is stunning
and chancellor green can be nice at night
they like to keep that area around chancellor green dark. It's a mood
cannon green when its warmer and sunny
and east pyne seats inside the quad are great
since you can sit in a corner and see all four walls of the building
I was in First college -> Cuyler -> Bloomberg + MOL, so I spent most of my time downcampus
im in buter
never saw first
but hope to be up campus near the admissions office next year
oh, so like.... Edwards/Dod? Those usually go to seniors quickly
Brown Co-Op would be a nice way to guarantee living up campus if thats your speed
one of my favorite spots is the sunroom in the art museum. Only open during business hours, but amazing light, especially in the winter
another great spot outdoors used to be the back yard of Charter with the wind blowing through the pines. The construction has ruined some of those view, but it's still nice
I didn't bring my camera to reunions. Maybe I should the next time
no idea what theyre called im a lowly soph
crazy to think that someone could have read my app already
hope i made it to committee
Princeton please accept me
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Tips for Princeton interview?
Be yourself
whats the food like at princeton
ive had breakfast on nassau st but how are the dining halls?
It's gotten better since I was there, but I thought it was pretty good. I think no matter what, you can get a little tired of the dining hall food routine (also applies when adulting as well)
is there a lot of variety?
Plenty of variety
LMAO
no need to worry
you should worry about making it grass
very good
this is stuff I usually have
wait that looks sooo good š
MY GOD
Shii
Woww
fuck, which dining hall is that? They got fancy plates now instead of generic white plates....
do they still have the grill section for burgers/grilled chicken/grilled cheese?
every dining hall has ice cream!
Ooh!
this sealed the deal princeton is my #1 bae š¤
it gets old and its too sweet
not to be a soph downer
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I remember the dining hall ice cream being soft serve, right?
this looks immaculate i would absolutely fall victim to freshman 15
choi dining hall (yeh and new college west)
that is true
if you go too often then it will inevitably get old
dude the ice cream here is so good
of course
always available at roma
after awhile, just always bent spoon
pton is my #1 bae too
woah qhasti mod???
people keep saying that, I'm not sure why it's a big deal....
that's true. Maybe I should find a green one
My school counselor said my school only sends mid year transcripts even though we have a quarter marking period system. Is it gonna be weird if I donāt send my finalized first quarter grades? Idk how I would
Youāre not required to send first quarter grades
Yh thats fine my school has a quarter system but only sends out yearly
is there a way to find out if my interview report was sent
no.
is there a last day for interviews? i got an email from them really late and my interviewer hasnt been so prompt on responding when im trying to coordinate an interview
report deadline is december 1
for ED
if they don't get a report in, it's not the end of the world. Your application is still the application
ah ok i dont think it will get that delayed
if they're reaching out now, you're probably fine
hey sort of a weird question but if my application hasnt been thrown into the trash yet
where would it be now
2nd reading? committee? completely unknown?
I think it could be any of them depending on if youāre one of the first regions they read
I do wonder when all the applications are done being read though because I doubt they would read up until the last day before announcing decisions and risk delaying
i just wanna know how the little words i typed out are doing
are they on a desk waiting to be read
in the trash awaiting the landfill
e-wasted
honestly, if you're worried about it, work on your RD applications
as I said earlier, report deadline for interviewers is 12/1. ED decisions come out what... 12/13-12/16? They aren't going to re-read all the applications + interviews. They've probably made a first pass by then, so the interviews will likely only impact borderline cases
lmaoo im getting dinner with an ao tomorrow
ill ask
jk
i think they are read in pdf's or on computers
waste of paper to print
id guess
it prolly fluctuates
and in committee they need to have more ao's read it
dont worry about it
its your interviewers fault if they dont send it
so if they somehow dont do it, it cant really be held against you
does anyone know if they request first quarter grades do they notify you as well?
presumably, they would ask your school, and if your school has some sort of permissions process, then you'll be notified. You could ask the admin
my school's policy is that i have to request sending the grades otherwise they wont do it, even if theyre the one getting the request and not me so i was just wondering if i would even know to put in the request
huh, if that's a standard policy, sounds like you have to send the grades to schools rather than them requesting it
just as an overall thing
Are first quarter grades the same as mid year?
Eerie
Someone may or may not have put a Princeton t-shirt on the John Harvard statue and gotten photographic evidence
maybe I should've posted this in the Harvard megathread
naaaah
Oh thats john harvard LMAO
people have done worse to that statue
would not be the first time trash was thrown on it 
the whole touching of the foot thing makes no sense to me... but superstition
my princeton interview was awesomesauce
mine is on sunday ım a little anxious
do you have any advices
donāt be nervous!! going into it i def was because i get a lot of social anxiety but just think of it as a conversation, my interviewer was really good at blending questions into conversation so it didnāt really feel like an interview at all
do they look at your application before the interview or just asking general questions
for some schools ı heard that they actually look at your application so if thats the case ıll prepare for it
i dont think they see your application because my interviewer asked what i was interested in studying
so be prepared to talk a little bit about what you wanna do and what you currently do
okay tysm
good luck!! i know qhasti interviews so he might have some input as well :)
that'd be awesome
All we get is a name and an e-mail address. Nothing else.
would you advise sending a thank you email after an interview? my interviewer told me he wasnt supposed to contact me after the interview was over so im not expecting a response
you can send it, they'll read it, but not respond
well, I have no idea what your interviewer will do, but that's what I think we're supposed to do
yeah i highly doubt he'll answer and idm but i sent one anyway thanks
My schools first quarter grades are finalized, but my counselor says I shouldnāt send them to Princeton because only mid year grades officially update the transcript at my school. But Princeton says they recommend sending first quarter grades if possible, and we still have the actual grades. Should I try to find a way to send them with my school counselor or not worry about it unless Iām requested to send my first quarter grades? Heās also not that knowledgeable
Apparently pton matched a lot of people from my school with interviewers who graduated from my school
Very nice of them
my interview went amazingš„³
congrats!!!
it was like a chat actually, nothing too serious so ı loved it
is it a bad sign that nearly half of the interview was about me having triplets, my house's garden and our common favorite shows and movies with the interviewer
ım just anxious right now like was it too casual
Nope, talking about what you're passionate about is what makes you interesting!
My interviewer cancelled on me thrice
did they reschedule 4 times?
I wouldn't worry about it. Life is complicated. Is it remote now?
I hope it doesn't get rushed and turns out bad
yeah, they want them in by 11/28 with a 12/1 hard deadline
Went from in person to remote
I see I hope it works out
before 1st
I've been assigned interviews late and just did them remote instead of in person. Admissions office has no preference
That's true but I feel I'd cook in person vs remote
Welp whatever
Do you know if princeton has a specific day they like announcing early decisions?
I've read (probably unreliable sources) that
Most ivies release early on the Thursday of the 2nd week of dec
Mine responded
This is how itās been for the past few years so you could probably expect something around then
but no guarantees
the food is so much better than any other colleges
we also have late meal which sells sushi, salad bowls, and many other good stuff
but you can get it for free as a freshman
^ please help
you probably donāt have to worry about it
dude, late meal is free??!?!?!
or do you mean you use points that you already paid for?
yeah follow the pton admissions office guidelines in any case
you're not wrong
lmao
*except im on fin aid so it's still free for me
yeah its like
included
in a normal dining plan
its by location really
like regionally blocked
for a major like physics is only the AB degree offered? I don't really understand the ab vs bse thing since common app lets you choose any major regardless of that
AB and BSE graduating requirements are different. BSE requires 36 courses, AB is 34 (though I think that's going up). Except for CS, reach departure offers either a BSE or AB. You can go AB or BSE in CS. Course requirements are different for both. Physics is AB only. I think it's just check box ambiguity.
What is happening in the admissions process rn
Wdym
Like is it in committee, etc
Probably?
I donāt think anyone here knows lol
ok so i HAVE to apply for AB? as in if i checked the BSE box and wrote that essay i would get flat out rejected š¤
The physics department only gives ABs. I wouldn't worry about mixing it up in an essay. It's an easy mistake to make.
Nice interviewer, nice interview, fumbled a bit in the beginning but he was lowk a chill guy
Yay!
LOL
Lmao
for the 500 word princeton essay on lived experiences, are u supposed to talk about what you will do with this at princeton? Some guides online say you should while others dont
i added a little bit at the end of my essay but it wasn't a big focus of mine
Isn't the focus of the essay on community?
it asks how your experiences have shaped you, but doesnt explicitly say what are you planning to do at princeton with these experiences
What's the whole prompt?
i mean
it says this ". As a prospective member of this community, reflect on how your lived experiences will impact the conversations you will have in the classroom, the dining hall or other campus spaces. "
so when i was writing, i assumed they wanted to know about how my community/background would impact the princeton community so i wrote about it
it also asks what will your classmates learn from you so it seems safe to assume they want to know what you'd do at princeton
Same, thats how I approached it
Just remember lived experiences can mean a lot of stuff, not just your race/ethnicity etc
bse is the engineering degree
physics isnt engineering
has pton annouced when theyre releasing decisions yet
Seeing how it's usually been on the second Thursday of December
Probably 12th
hopefully its that early š
bc normally princeton is same day as yale and yales releasing on the 17th this yr
I think the lived experiences question is great because it allows you to differentiate yourself separately from external characteristics.
Then it's most likely then ig
im so cooked
i hope i can just get in or ill have to do like a billion other apps. Some ppl at my school are saying that even if they get into an ivy ea theyre still gunna send out apps to all of them. like whyyyyyyy
mit yale and pton all have generous aid packages so are they just trying to flex or something?
smh prestige whores
what a waste of time, money and effort
i heard it will negatively affect the chances of everyone else applying rd. is that true?
lol see tiger=tears of joy, no tiger=despair
if 1000 ED/EA admitted kids did it maybe. But one? The schools are going to fill their classes either way.
Pretty sure they did same day as Harvard last year which is on the 12th this year
I think itās more likely they stick to doing it on a Thursday than match Yaleās
even though its unlikely, i hope its on friday bc I would hate going to school and have everyone asking to know about acceptances
I donāt think Iāve ever seen it on a Friday
Thursday, December 12, 2019
Thursday, December 16, 2021
Thursday, December 15, 2022
Thursday, December 14, 2023
Dunno what happened to my 2020 log lmfao
Eurgh
pattern is pretty definitive for 12/12/2024
back in the ancient times, I got my letter on a Wednesday priority mail
Teehee Iām nervous
If nervous, work on RD. But I think you've mentioned that you've already submitted a bunch of applications. Go.... For a run?
Time to finish my RD apps and pray for the best for the rest of my life š
Kinda surprised how many people here applied to Princeton
Same
I know for me it was bc their rotc detachment has been very active in recruiting and sending people for visits
Which made me choose princeton over any other school when applying ea
But also a lot of ppl at my school have applied bc they only saw the #1 ranking which doesnt make sense bc us world and news report ranks using strange criteria
I agree. I think rankings are rather arbitrary. You can't really quantify undergraduate experience and support, and I think that's where Princeton excels.
also dont they consider the graduate schools which skews the undergrad rankings? because some schools have strong undergrads but weak graduate schools but are ranked low becauase of it
totally same ı especially loved my soundtrack choice and my reasoning
but not sure about the service civic engagement one tho
just hope for the best atp
and their long ass community essay 
ı think the prompt was too broad in the community one they could be more exact
are you guys from us or int
us
same
Yeah, itās called the community essay, but the whole setup is about expanding perspectives and having conversations, and then they top it off with āhow has your life experience shaped you?ā which is super vague
Theyāre probably gonna read hundreds of different interpretations of the prompt
Numerically, I don't think they can include graduate schools in their rubric (whatever the hell that might actually be....)
No
What are you guys doing for the graded paper?
All the good ones I have are way over 2 pages
If you read carefully, those are guidelines
Yeah but I'm way over
Like 9 pages I'm not sure if they'd read that
They're just going to skim it. They aren't reading the 2 page ones either
Oh alright
Do you think something for an AP Exam would be fine?
Not really sure about the confidentiality with that
Does it meet the guidelines?
What I'm trying to say is... Meet the guidelines, don't stress too much
Alright
Well I'd have to ask my teacher to grade it because it was only graded by CollegeBoard
I have other ones I could use but they're handwritten
Does it fit the guidelines?
I'm pretty sure but I need to find them and legibility is questionable
Thanks though
I think I'm overthinking this
was princeton your first choice for undergrad (or whenever you attended princeton im not sure)
Yes. Thought about Stanford since my sister was there, but pretty much all Princeton
im doing my best to channel my anxiety into rd apps but i feel myself getting more burnt out by the minute š
are princeton application rea results basically already done? thinking of updating the AOs
what made you decide princeton over stanford? just curious lol
I got in early. It was ED back then, so I got in and that was that
bro ššš same
Go for a walk
Don't worry about it. That's typical. There's artists that had to be barred from their own galleries because they kept going back and touching it up after completion. Nothing is "perfect"
It feels super important now, but it won't be in a year
The secret is not opening your application after you submit it
Forget you applied until the decision date
that's what i did
I just pretended I never applied and did all of my rd apps
It's a process
You get a lot more used to failure later over the course of your life š
How do I even do this community essay š
Omg fr
What will they learn from me??? š
Like bro I'm truly drawing a blank here
I actually read mine and it was decent tbh
What makes the way you grew up unique
Are you a child of immigrants, from a strange place, dealt with a weird life situstion
I wrote about what itās like to live in my town
And then tied it back to the perspective can contribute
But the issue is there's so many of those people who are gonna write about the same thing
Of course, I'm a member of a ton of communities. Of course, my experiences will shape my college experience. But, the struggle is finding something that's actually unique.
Like, sure I'm an immigrant but there's many international applicants so that doesn't mean much
i feel like it wasnt the struggle itself thats supposed to be unique
its how you plan to use it to contribute to the princeton community
mm ok i think maybe i have an idea but the contribution part might be meh
that q cooked me on the interview tho
bc they kinda phrased it like "students at princeton are all the best in the nation at something.... what are you the best at that will make you fit into that category of student"
i would despise that question
like i get theres always a how would you contribute but when its phrased like that, Im sure theres gotta be someone in the history of princeton thats better than me at any thing i can think of
My interviewer never once asked me what Iād contribute to Princeton or why I wanted to go
whaaaa
i wish it was like that
mine were what i would contribute and what challenges I faced
and why i thought princeton would be better than schools like stanford or yale
At one point he threw in a āitās pretty obvious why you want to goā which confused me a lil bit but pop off interviewer
Or something to that effect
lmaooooo
I donāt think he was accusing me of prestige whoring
Because the whole thing was an insane glazefest
But maybe thatās his style
lol ive done a bunch of interviews because of my west point application and rotc but ive never had an interview like the princeton one lol
it was zoom so maybe thats why it was so awkward but sometimes he would just stare at me
He said he ārarely gets to do thisā so he was super excited
Mine was zoom too
We talked for almost an hour
About everything istg
yea mine was abt that long but a lot of it was me asking questions
I asked two questions
cuz princeton approaches a lot of things differently
I asked one question about support for incoming rural students to which he didnāt have an answer
And I asked another question about the nature of how students interact and if itās a constructive environment to learn in
yea i did a culture one as well
And he said that while Princeton used to be a very dog eat dog, competitive place it has become very very cooperative lately
Oh I suppose I asked three
but i asked about like languages and study abroad but my guy didnt do those
I asked how he made friends at Princeton
i asked about how competitive it was between students but all i got was that its just like any other school lol
And he explained how youāre sorted into houses and you take your gen ed classes solely within those houses and thatās kind of your crew
He told me it was a very very cooperative environment and your first level of support for anything will be your peers
yea its kinda sad if you dont like yours and it never changes
Which was nice to hear
its kinda like hogwarts lol
Well once you start your major classes you start mixing and mingling
but dont residential colleges never change?
I donāt think so but Iām not sure
Princeton isnāt enormous so you can probably pretty easily make cross-college friends
Esp if you join clubs and stuff
Like if I get in Iām auditioning for the PUO
And joining the astronomy club
yea i asked about the eating clubs too
I didnāt ask
I felt it wasnāt important
I donāt care so much about frat life
i thought it was something unique to princeton that i didnt rly understand
Itās just frats but with a fancy name basically
Iāll have better things to do tbh
If I get in
yea lol
Gotta stay cautiously positive
lol sometimes i get too confident and i gotta remind myself to be realistic
Itās hard for me because everyone Iām around gasses me up all the time
Even here
You meet people in a lot of different ways. The people in your room, your RA group, your residential college are simply the closest people to you geographically on campus. Socially, there's the people in your classes, social and cultural groups, random people you meet as friends of friends.
Eating clubs are where people party on Thursday and Saturday nights. Some require social connections to get into, some are open to all. Sophomore year, you sign in (non selective) or bicker (selective) to join an eating club.
You eat there junior and senior year
its not as intense as greek life at other schools right
Having not experienced Greek life, I have no idea.
I joined a sign in club. It was fun and stress free
But I imagine someone trying to get into Ivy or Cottage would have to figure shit out
or do ppl drink a ton of alcohol
You drink as much as you want to, hang out. Play pool, dance, talk, pong, video games. Whatever
because i heard it has a large affect on your social life so i dont wanna be a recluse lol but im also not into heavy partying (if i get in ofc)
Find a dark corner with a friend etc.
also i heard each one kinda fits its own niche?
I didn't party before college. My most memorable hangouts were playing pool with friends with a few beers
thats cool lol
There always a range of what works for you
is there stuff to do other than nyc and nassau st?
also how stressed are the students there
While I was there, I never really went to Philly or NYC. The kids who did tended to be from those cities. For me, there was more than enough stuff for me to do on campus
Stress levels are very much so self imposed. A lot of the time, the worst pressure is the pressure you put on yourself
There's always mental support services. When I was there, there was a little bit of a stigma around it, but there was some stat floating around that 75% of students visit counseling services at least once. I would be surprised if it wasn't much higher now. Mental health awareness is MUCH higher now
also i saw that theres grade deflation at princeton, does it is really impactful for your college experience?
I was there when they first introduced grade deflation. It affects the early large classes more than it affects junior /senior level seminar classes. Your transcript comes with a letter talking about grade deflation policies
Ultimately, almost nobody graduates with a 4.0. Valedictorian is a faculty vote and it's kids who take 6-7 courses a semester, etc.
GPA matters if you're going med school /law school. Not so much in other areas?
Maybe finance?
for me, rotc summer programs are calculated with gpa playing a big part but i dont think they account for grade deflation
I have friends who did rotc, but they never mentioned the summer program
i meant more like selection based on competing for slots like airborne school
If you're interested in med school, then I think you have to optimize for grades.
like theres the oml (order of merit list) that is also used to determine what branch you get into based on your rank
Sorry, don't know anything about that
its ok lol. the main thing is just the gpa expectation
Yeah, like you try not to take too many hard courses at the same time, that sort of thing
also does anyone know what comp sci / comp e is like at princeton
My best friends were CS or EE. I think everyone works hard regardless of major
any complaints from them about their major or anything like that?
Not really. Mostly difficult late night problem set sessions
that good then
Like, the coursework it's difficult. I think the professors give like 8 hours a week per class. But 8 hours of work for a professor isn't 8 hours for a student. Multiply that for 4-5 courses and do it in STEM
Ya basically
I still have time to do all of my club stuff but itās still like
working most of the time
are y'all able to set good boundaries between work and fun or is it kinda blurred?
It really depends on the person
I personally am able to balance it but Iām also a freshman so thereās still a long road ahead of me
but if you establish good habits and surround yourself with healthy people I think itās fine
obviously some people are built different and theyāre unbothered by the grind but idk I want to enjoy my time here with other people lol
icc that makes sense ty
ı just cant its a hobby atp opening the app and overthinking about it
if you're in STEM and you're lucky, it's 40+ hours a week. Much longer if you want to grind out those A's and have a life
so presuming you're an engineer and taking 5 course semesters, that's 48+ hours out of the 168 hours in a week
What classes are you taking
Oof
That does sound fun, in a way tbh
But sounds like having a job + involved in clubs + classes would be very hard
hopefully the goal is to not need a job
but thats not feasible for everyone
40 hours per week seems like a lot now, and it still is, but consider it when you no longer have an 8 hour school day + extremely long obligations like jobs
the majority of your day will be consumed with work but i dont think it will feel as hectic and insane for most people
for me its gonna feel hectic and insane because my course rigor is... idaho
any indication on questbridge when decisions will be out?
they were today
already happened
i meant rea decisions
not questbridge
as in was there any indication on the qb acceptance letters when the rea decisions will officially be released
multiple schools have done that
but its all but confirmed to be Dec 12
columbias is now like the 18th or something
revealed in qb
so i was wondering if princeton indicated any particular day that rea would be released
damn theyre too mysterious
nonchalant and shit š¤¦āāļø
Yeah I would definitely need a job... Never said anything about sleeping though 
I would choose anxiety tbh
I would focus better being anxious than crushed
Valid lol
algorithms and data structures, linear algebra, physics, writing seminar
everyone gets absolutely fucked in writing sem
is there an official release date now?
Theyāll tell you the officially release date only a few days before the results
Ha, everybody gets to learn how to write all over again as a freeshman in writing seminar
Sounds soul crushing
Which means Iāll love it
Freshman bonding time crying over writing
more likely Physics 105, but same difference
I heard people were receiving Q1 grade requests, is this true?
yeah i totally agree
if you need help with an assignment reaching out to a classmate is a normal step
lmfaoo get in first lil broš
you can party without drinking
I wonāt trust
the eating clubs are just another thing
voluntary engagement
not with that attitudeš
People tell me Iām too confident and then I put on the brakes and people tell me Iām too negative
Argh
haha the reak answer is it doesnt mater
matter
Weāll see what happens
how you feel
Precisely
the nihilist would say just dont bother agonizing over it
i think work ur rd apps
it has no utility to worry over a decision out of your hands now
Yep thatās what Iāve been doing
Focusing pretty heavy on Caltech
what r u applying to pton for?
ah cal t
Physics
i know some kids in my year who got caltech rea
and then didnt go in favor of pton LOL
Dang
all that caltech commitment for nothing
Iāve got nobody else around me to look at in terms of applying to top schools
So Iām a little excited and a little nervous at the same time
yeah i was the only one in my city to go to ptonš
my year
Has anyone gotten the q1 request?
and there were like 3 kids in my county i think
Nobody from my school has gone to a T20 since 1994
I think QB people might have
and very rigorous
Thatās why I applied lol
oppenheimer pilled ...
Yeah me too
Same here
If they send them theyāll probably do it this week, I doubt they wouldāve last week
Because of the holiday
They may just want to know how youāre doing in your current year courses
And this year results are coming out earlier right?
I figured
dont do portal astrology
š£ļø š„ thatās what Iām saying
Oh it doesnāt matter?
in retrospect i shouldve just submitted apps and lived my life
Good luck yall btw
Although my counselor might not get one because she already filled out the Q1 optional report on common
Itās so scary š
Iām not scared just⦠anxious
thats a form of fear
Yeahh thatās what I meant
I want it to be over at any cost
just wait til you get to college and still feel just as emptyšÆ
Do you like it at Princeton?
Thatās great!
the university treats us as adults and with a lot of freedom
Iām gonna love it anywhere I go tbh
Iām plotting to form a secret undergraduate intermural physics research group
its a fascinating social experiment
to bring this group of kids together
𤣠we crazy
Iām assuming youāve got all sorts of people there
yeah the point is to bring together vastly different people
I love vastly different people
my roommate is like in a completely opposite discpline as me
and opposite social vibe
he's like a usaco platinum guy LMFAO
Vastly different people is my favorite thing about working in public service
and did hella olympiads
Well I mean itās cool to me
Idk if theyāll think itās cool but itās whatever
Anyway lunch period is over so see ya
lmfaoo i mean
it feels bad rn
once youre an old sophomore like me youll realize its like 1/14 of your grades and GPA total
and it wont feel so important
and if you're even older and got a D in writing seminar, it doesn't matter because I'm writing 2-3 scientific papers/grants a year
lmfao i got a B+ and
its the only B i've ever gotten
out of 9 pton classes
there's some quote from some smart person that goes something like, "don't worry if you struggle with class, I assure you I was worse"
LMAO
I will ping this thread once I find out
If yāall find out before I do feel free to ping me with proof or message @pine dawn
You can also email me the proof
Thatās new this year!
i know especially at a time like this when it feels like you're being assessed of 'merit' or 'worthiness' to go to a certain university it's easy to be insecure (college admissions isnt a meritocracy anyway), but don't sweat it-- both of you have traits that can't be compared or quantified, and schools can be looking for different things to fit their instutional needs
and even if you dont get in, these amazing qualities you have and things youve done will still lead you to successful in life wherever you end up
its something i definitely have to remind myself too lol
@sonic dome I would like to add that she may be rejected for having qualities an already admitted applicant reflect, and you could be accepted for just being you. Donāt take it as a poor reflection on yourself, take it as a āthere just wasnāt enough roomā
its 3 am in my local time zone
dont get too excited
rejection is nigh
thats okay
it means they simply didnt have room for you; another school might
yep
youre more than likely an extremely qualified applicant
youll land somewhere, we all will
it may takes some time but, we will
Im def not unique enough
this process is so stupidly random
I think its best i dont think abt it
Princetons is esp random lol
Sometimes pll get into all ivies but princeton
And some get into only Princeton
Institutional priorities or something
I donāt think itās random
They want the most diverse class possible
If your qualities overlap significantly with someone they already have you might get rejected
And fit is ignored but incredibly important
Would you thrive there or implode under the pressure?
They can tell from the app
Thereās a certain element of randomness regarding whoās app gets seen first, when itās seen, what mood the AO is in, etc, but that can be said for job interviews and anything evaluation based in life
But if youāre in, youāre in for a good reason. If youāre out, youāre out for an equally visible reason, even if itās just āyou probably wouldnāt like it hereā or āwe have someone like you alreadyā
last year I interviewed 5 kids. 2 were extremely good/strong, but they didn't get in. Later I found out they got into Harvard and MIT. The one kid I interviewed remotely for early, didn't really connect, and he got in. I think at the end of the day, Princeton is a geographically insular research university. It might feel random from the few individuals you know about as high schoolers, but I'm sure there's a rhyme and reason about it internally.
Would princeton not be a good school to rea then
Bc it would be better to raise chances for other schools when princeton accepts based on their criteria (not just stats)
Iām sure the school has some sort of secret list or guidelines for the class theyāre trying to build which is why we high schoolers think itās random
Most schools probably have institutional āwish listsā to fill
I think REA is perfect for that tbh
Now this is purely speculative but hereās how I think it could go:
Accepted: you were a kind of person on the wish list
Deferred: definitely worthy, but you donāt necessarily satisfy an institutional priority, so you will be checked against RD applicants to see
Rejected: no chance in hell/definitely not going to distinguish yourself in RD (intls and demographics with high applicant volumes)
Actually yea it does make sense
Bc if they compare with ppl they alr accepted wouldnt being looked at first before rd help
I think so
RD is for what they have left on their wish list plus whoever else they can fit
Now again
PURELY speculative
But it would make sense if it was decided this way
I mean, think about it - Princeton has a classics department. There are undergrads in that department, right?
To me at least
religion, art and archaeology etc.
Yeah
history/english/politics are going to be popular no matter what. STEM is hot for the past 20 years
anthropology/sociology/psychology, there's what - 50 departments?
1500 undergrads per class minus athletes minus some legacy, then you need to keep some small departments alive
there was a population studies department, there was a statistics department (Tukey if anyone's heard of the Tukey test, used to run that department)
How many internationals do they accept in rea generally
Iām assuming those small departments are institutional priorities
People interested in those majors get a little more attention
no idea. I think the Daily Princetonian ran a freshman survey, so you can look there
about 10% of the class is international but thats like 150 people internationals from the entire world
so not very many people from a given country
all the information is there if you care to look
I believe intls were 13% of the class of 28
Makes sense but since FGLI students are an institutional priority, I do wonder if Princeton already accepts enough from QuestBridgeās match instead of REA
I think FGLI has been a problem at Princeton. So has certain demographics. I don't know if it's gotten better. I know the SCOTUS decision made things more complicated if they wanted to make those demographic goals a priority
As a research institution that also prides itself on its liberal arts curriculum, Princeton allows students to explore areas across the humanities and the arts, the natural sciences, and the social sciences. What academic areas most pique your curiosity, and how do the programs offered at Princeton suit your particular interests? (250 words or fewer)*
how much didyou guys write about the academic area vs programs at princeton
Wait what criteria
Why did I not know anything about this šš
I meant like whatever the aos use when reviewing applications. I dont think anyone outside of then knows exactly what it is
I wrote about the diversity of the physics program and how its many unique class would help me hammer down one interest or concentration in the field
Does anyone know princeton early decision date from questbridge
No but itās highly speculated to be Dec 12th
So u wrote the entire thing about princeton programs?
I covered that but also talked about where my interest in the major came from
Was it like 50/50
Yale is 17th Columbia is 18th
Would rather cry on 12th than a week before Christmas tbh
Kinda like an introduction into how the program fits me
Donāt put too much stock in my app lol Iām definitely getting rejected
Oh š dont say that
who got Q1 grade reqs from princeton
Nobody brother give it a rest
i physically cannot
bro can you dm me if you find anything out?
how many do you think got in rea?
Hard to tell
im from the middle east
this is what gpt gave me
For 18 to 60 applicants, 2 to 8 Middle Eastern students are likely accepted through REA at Princeton.
im cooooooooked
nah hopefully all goes well
They didnāt give one
Probably about 7-800 based on past data
Maybe but they donāt release early admission statistics anymore
hey look, there's a hint in the short answers
why would you trust what GPT makes up out of thin air? Nobody knows the answer
i dont at all
you mean 7-8??
~220 intls accepted last year, ur saying only 8 were intl in REA?
i think thats too low
I think the 7-800 means 700-800 people are accepted REA
also guys
ah okayyy
yo guys
Was watching a video where ex-AOs go over an application, and a student's 1490 and lack of advanced math was ultimately their downfall (their prediction of a rejection), at Princeton.
I have a 1530 superscore (790M) and my highest single sitting is 1480. Most T10s take self-reported, so they will only see my SS. The problem here is I applied to Pton, which asks me to SEND my scores, so they'll see what I said earlier.
How does this impact me for Princeton? For context, I've taken 12 APs (4 this year), all 4s & 5s with all AP STEMs taken except AP Biology, Physics C: E&M, and AP Stats.
i'm intl too
princeton does superscore but again yeah
so idk
If you sent your application in already, there's nothing you can do. If you're stressed, work on your RD applications
i know but this actually mentally prepares me
if it negatively impacts my application, ill be primed for a rejection
lowering my expectations
It wonāt
not really. It's just a waste of your time
790m is above median
yes but my highest is 1480 w a 690r
but again they apparently superscore but ask to send sat scores which is really dumb
š¤·āāļø
you applied rea?
Ye
Why is this thread so active
I mean, maybe they want to make sure that people aren't lying on their applications
anxious applicants
out of what country if u dont mind me asking
US
why dont all the other ivies do though
This thread seems especially active to me though
Compared to the others
Just be prepared for anything
am already
Life will continue I promise
i got into tamu so i feel like a weight is lifted to an extent
no idea. Princeton can do Princeton. Each school has their own individual policies of their own choice
but i really want to get into a top top school
alr then
are you an alum?
See you alr have an amazing school youāre chilling
yes thankfully
would be so much happier w a pton acceptance
you know the sad thing is like
not sad but
i put my best foot forward for that school
like my application couldnt have been any better except for like a single grammar mistake
recs and essays and all that were the best i could do
Ofc but things will be fine either way
Even if itās not immediately
Thatās great! Youāve done all you could
pretty sure they don't care about that. Proves you didn't use chatGPT honestly
and if i dont get in i feel like i wont get in anywhere else because i gave pton the best and it wasnt enough
but i know all this is luck
Nah thatās not true
so it isss what it isss
ikik
I wouldnāt say that
it was on the resume upload lol
Your writing drastically improves from rea to rd
Every school is looking for fit. Princeton either way has no influence on other school results
I mean whatever makes you sleep better
^
yes
chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil
that hard part is i have 4 other schools
14*
to write
and i have finals in a week
and i need to keep As
i just finished UCs and now i need to keep running this marathon
When I got rejected from my rea school and deferred ea I was convinced I wouldnāt be going to college lol but here I am
Thereās a WW side dw
but if i hear good news next week im only applying to like 3 schools
If you get in you can stop
yes exactly
If you donāt you have motivation and/or anxiety
@old turtledyk anything about the quarter 1 grade request princeton makes each rea round
for some reason this year it hasnt been done
unless for QB
if nobody knows, how would I know?
apparently, nobody else here who applied got it
that should answer your question
as an alum, I have no inside connections, I'm just here to answer questions because I feel like it
and apparently play hs therapist
Do you interview
yes
So true
It's hard to get into the flow initially
Princeton has been my worst application so far, and I'm kind of happy about that
Atleast I improved
I remember writing at least 12 drafts in my Princeton application
hmm, 10. I still have them š
I made up the last 2 out of pure imagination
yeah its always 7pm est
omg lol
i mean i just edited on the same google doc
but i certainly did many edits
let's just say that google docs didn't exist back then. I write this way now, I'll write something, and when I want to make extensive changes (mainly large deletions), I create a v2
that way if I want to recover entire paragraphs etc., I can just do that
it's like mental checkpointing
thats right
its like 700
this wouldnt change so much from year to year
I think I hit 8-9
You people seriously need to find other schools to get excited about
LOL
naw i was a princeton stan from sophomore year forth
commit to the bit
I was memeing around last night and looked at the Northeastern physics department and they have a cooperative undergrad-grad dark matter research team
That excited me and I ended up applying for the hell of it since northeastern doesnāt hav essays
i think 1500+ is fine
i mean i had above 1550 but
i dont think that was that important
Find a hobby that isnāt obsessing over borderline portal astrology sheesh
And raw sat score doesnāt matter, your score in school context matters
naw the raw score matters
A 1490 in a less opportunistic high school will mean a lot even though it doesnāt have the shiny 15 attached to it
like yeah if you are from a realtly underprivileged area or school theyll be a bit more forgiving
but consider the median for submitted scores is like 1570 now for these schools
cuz its optional
Thereās a bias there
Really the median is probably closer to 1520-1530
Biggreen always says to check the pre covid data sets
for accepted students? depends heavily on whether u factor athletes
cuz they have way lower SAT scores
if its just nonhooked/recruited studnets its prolly like
1550-1580
LOL
not very forgiving
Ngl my 750 in math looks hella bad until you see it in context
Actually this makes a lot of sense thinking about it. I heard Yale was focussing on their data science for the past few years? Donāt know how true that is but that would make sense.
yeah yale doesnt like how the good stem kids go to the rest of HYPSM
so they started giving likely letters and stem scholarships for strong students
Thatās cool
i know RSI kids who got yale likelies
its just like, they want to capture better stem talent
Yale is on my list if I donāt get into Princeton, provided, I am probably not going to get into either
But Iām good enough to try
thats fine
its not damning
its just you need to be competent and compelling otherwise
Not many opportunities to do that unfortunately
Just a product of where I live
I took online calc when no other senior did this year
i dont think thats an excuse, theres plenty of stuff you can do on your own
has nothing to do with your school
Math classes definitely have to do with your school
i meant like ecs
Well yeah I have plenty of great ECs
are not constrained, you can do whatever you want
Robotics team captain, community stem outreach stuff like that
nice
i was an orientation leader and one kid in my group was a robotics kid
he got like silver at worlds or something LOL
and was an international
super cracked
I wrote a nice little essay about the robotics camps I do for local kids to help build interest in stem around here
Yeah our team isnāt cracked because weāre from the middle of nowhere but we do lots of stem outreach
I do lots of public speaking for fundraising
And when I was made team captain we placed fifth at our regional last year which was an all time high
Unfortunately itās probably not enough but eh whatever
I know I made an impact and the goal of these things was never to get me into college anyway
yeah it happens
same w harv and yale tho, its not just pton
i mean i got into multiple ivies
but its definitely not a ubiquitous phenomenon amongst my classmates
Honestly thatās so based. Iām ngl, when I was starting hs my goal was to do things to get into a good college, but I ended up falling in love with a lot of the activities I did
yeah i think thats the real value!
I never have had the intention of doing something for the app
it helps make you a better person and realize your potential
Which is probably ironically why Iāll get rejected because I couldāve done more š
Iām fine with that tbh
i mean by the end of college apps i was so tired i didnt even care that much in the moment
Iām not a sweat and if they donāt want me thatās too bad
Precisely
the real acceptance was the friends we made along the way...
I think I still have a chance but it would definitely be an upset if I get in
And the impact we made on our communities :)))
Yeah it makes balancing ecs and classes so bearable when you actually like doing them
So honestly thatās a good thing
im in class rnš
struggling to pay attention
LMAO
Iāve also worked in public service for two and a half years so that might look good tbh