#Princeton University (2024-2025)

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sudden sky
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Nah but like fr fr do you think it deserves number one

humble stream
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but i could see an argument for most other schools being number one too

humble stream
# sudden sky In what ways?

i got the sense that the advising and adjustment period was really good and the location/environment is ideal for me

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plus they offer the major i want as an individual degree and not a concentration of biology lol

humble stream
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also i like the flexibility

humble stream
sudden sky
humble stream
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GOATED

sudden sky
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They are one of the very few institutions that have disease ecology and medical entomology researchers as faculty who actually teach courses on those subjects to undergrad

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Plus they will be prime opportunities for undergraduate research 😼

sudden sky
# humble stream ong go tigers

Princeton actually used to be my least favorite Ivy (because it’s in New Jersey and I’m a hater strictly for the comedic value) and then I actually began looking at it and now it’s probably my favorite or second favorite

sudden sky
humble stream
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validdd

old turtle
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When I went to Princeton, it wasn't considered number 1. I think Harvard was #1 back then. As far as undergrad focus, you can't beat Princeton.

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As you gain more perspective, there's good and bad things about Princeton. Many of those things come hand in hand. Less clinical research... But that's because there's no med/dental/vet school

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Physics and math are top notch. But within sub fields there's still strengths and weaknesses as well

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Honestly, what's important is if you think it's a good fit for you

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Rather than, "it's number 1, therefore I should go"

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I guess that's not easy to know a priori, but you can do your best

pulsar crest
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mine went to my high school

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i think they purposefully pair up interviewers like that

twin adder
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yes duh...

old turtle
pulsar crest
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My parents have their tax return online, do they have to print all like 30 and sign it? And is signing the first page enough? Never heard of sending a signed tax return

old turtle
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yes.

humble stream
pulsar crest
# old turtle yes.

Can they print/sign only the first 2 pages then submit the rest digitally?

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@humble stream is that what ur parents did

humble stream
bleak current
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i did my princeton interview yesterday! if anyone has questions i can try to answer

small zephyr
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How was it and what did yall talk about

pulsar crest
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@bleak current wondering the same ^

jolly wasp
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btw if my parents dont have any tax return(international student), just the non-filer form and their monthly income statements for 2023 would be enough right

ionic terrace
jolly wasp
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I actually did, waiting for a response rn

old turtle
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The admissions office gives a little bit of guidance and a lot of flexibility, so everyone is going to get interviewed differently

bleak current
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definitely before the interview have a ā€œwhy princetonā€ response ready to go because that was the first thing she asked me

sudden sky
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All of my interviews have lowkey just been me chatting

bleak current
sudden sky
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Good

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I hope my Princeton interviewer is fun

pulsar crest
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Financial aid

jolly wasp
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If my parents can't receive their payrolls in English, will it create a problem if I submit them in Turkish(I already uploaded them in Turkish but the financial aid office just doesn't return back to me rn ım so stressed)

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I submitted their non-filer statements with signatures and monthly payrolls in 2023 as income statements(their only income source is their wages so payrolls must be enough)

twin adder
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i think they give a list of standard questions

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but dont force it you can just be like its an excellent school and name some programs

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obv a lot a people wanna go to pton

old turtle
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They actually don't give us a standard list of questions. What we have to do is write a report afterwards based off of 2 prompts

vague heron
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i still havent gotten my interview

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should i email admissions 🌚

median zealot
twin adder
vague heron
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2 hours later

placid trench
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Hands down yes

sudden sky
placid trench
# sudden sky How come

Well I did an intern there for 2 summers and I just felt that the vibe was on point, everyone was super nice/a little bit nerdy, campus is beautiful, and theres so many events there like you could just stroll in there and they let you take food and stuff

twin adder
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omg two summers interning at princeton

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i dont really think people here are nerdy for the most part

twin adder
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i just get by

placid trench
twin elm
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Just got an interview email lol. Was getting scared for a sec

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Too bad its over zoom though. I was really looking forward to an inperson one

pulsar crest
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Is there any confirmation on what day decisions will be sent out?

humble stream
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i wish šŸ˜”

pulsar crest
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It was December 15 last year which is a Sunday this year

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I am not tryna get rejected on a Sunday night

humble stream
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im pretty sure they try not to release on weekends

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maybe its the 13th before that..?

pulsar crest
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Harvard is supposedly the 12th

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And last years was a Friday

humble stream
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friday the 13th decision date would be cursedmoon

humble stream
pulsar crest
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Earlier is better so I’m motivated to do my damn RD applications instead of pretending I’ll get in

humble stream
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im doing them anyway now to distract myself šŸ˜” šŸ™

median zealot
pulsar crest
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If it was the 14th then 13th def seems possible

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Or 12th even

placid trench
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Manifesting

median zealot
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They will tell you the week of

old turtle
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You can't control the outcome. If you get in, great. If you don't - you have to do more applications. If you fear the negative outcome, take that effort and put it into your RD applications

jolly wasp
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mine is virtual too

finite minnow
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i turned in pfaa late will it reflect poorly on my application

twin adder
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finaid is a different department!

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dont worry about it

finite minnow
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😭 thank god

twin adder
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lmao you guys can chillax

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they arent that mean

old turtle
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I didn't submit financial aid until after my decision... By policy, they literally don't care

heavy breach
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ah yes princeton using both "advisor" and "Adviser" 😭

twin adder
heavy breach
twin adder
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fun fact

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im a full time ponderer and building admirer here

old turtle
twin adder
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im in sakrid coffee rn near rockefeller

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the seats outside firestone are a stellar view of the church

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but the admissions office area is really nice and the upperclassmen housing is stunning

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and chancellor green can be nice at night

old turtle
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they like to keep that area around chancellor green dark. It's a mood

twin adder
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cannon green when its warmer and sunny

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and east pyne seats inside the quad are great

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since you can sit in a corner and see all four walls of the building

old turtle
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I was in First college -> Cuyler -> Bloomberg + MOL, so I spent most of my time downcampus

twin adder
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never saw first

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but hope to be up campus near the admissions office next year

old turtle
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oh, so like.... Edwards/Dod? Those usually go to seniors quickly

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Brown Co-Op would be a nice way to guarantee living up campus if thats your speed

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one of my favorite spots is the sunroom in the art museum. Only open during business hours, but amazing light, especially in the winter

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another great spot outdoors used to be the back yard of Charter with the wind blowing through the pines. The construction has ruined some of those view, but it's still nice

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I didn't bring my camera to reunions. Maybe I should the next time

twin adder
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finished the paper i was working on

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pton is a war but i win a battle once in a while

twin adder
humble stream
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crazy to think that someone could have read my app already

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hope i made it to committee

lofty aspen
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Princeton please accept me

humble stream
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real

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rea is such a scam (i fell for it)

west light
west light
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Tips for Princeton interview?

old turtle
humble stream
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whats the food like at princeton

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ive had breakfast on nassau st but how are the dining halls?

old turtle
old turtle
twin adder
twin adder
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you should worry about making it grass

median zealot
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this is stuff I usually have

humble stream
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wait that looks sooo good 😭

west light
south harbor
jolly wasp
old turtle
# median zealot

fuck, which dining hall is that? They got fancy plates now instead of generic white plates....

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do they still have the grill section for burgers/grilled chicken/grilled cheese?

twin elm
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yeh was really nice when I went

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i think they even had ice cream

twin adder
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it gets old

twin adder
twin elm
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Ooh!

humble stream
twin adder
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not to be a soph downer

humble stream
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šŸ˜”

old turtle
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I remember the dining hall ice cream being soft serve, right?

lofty aspen
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omg

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i am so getting in

bleak current
# median zealot

this looks immaculate i would absolutely fall victim to freshman 15

median zealot
median zealot
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if you go too often then it will inevitably get old

median zealot
median zealot
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always available at roma

old turtle
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after awhile, just always bent spoon

twin adder
humble stream
old turtle
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people keep saying that, I'm not sure why it's a big deal....

humble stream
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im so used to seeing you pink

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it matched your lacroix

old turtle
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that's true. Maybe I should find a green one

pulsar crest
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My school counselor said my school only sends mid year transcripts even though we have a quarter marking period system. Is it gonna be weird if I don’t send my finalized first quarter grades? Idk how I would

median zealot
south hamlet
vague heron
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is there a way to find out if my interview report was sent

old turtle
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no.

west light
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is there a last day for interviews? i got an email from them really late and my interviewer hasnt been so prompt on responding when im trying to coordinate an interview

old turtle
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report deadline is december 1

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for ED

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if they don't get a report in, it's not the end of the world. Your application is still the application

west light
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ah ok i dont think it will get that delayed

old turtle
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if they're reaching out now, you're probably fine

west light
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hey sort of a weird question but if my application hasnt been thrown into the trash yet

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where would it be now

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2nd reading? committee? completely unknown?

pulsar crest
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I do wonder when all the applications are done being read though because I doubt they would read up until the last day before announcing decisions and risk delaying

west light
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i just wanna know how the little words i typed out are doing

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are they on a desk waiting to be read

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in the trash awaiting the landfill

old turtle
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e-wasted

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honestly, if you're worried about it, work on your RD applications

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as I said earlier, report deadline for interviewers is 12/1. ED decisions come out what... 12/13-12/16? They aren't going to re-read all the applications + interviews. They've probably made a first pass by then, so the interviews will likely only impact borderline cases

twin adder
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ill ask

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jk

twin adder
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waste of paper to print

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id guess

twin adder
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and in committee they need to have more ao's read it

twin adder
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its your interviewers fault if they dont send it

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so if they somehow dont do it, it cant really be held against you

humble stream
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does anyone know if they request first quarter grades do they notify you as well?

old turtle
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presumably, they would ask your school, and if your school has some sort of permissions process, then you'll be notified. You could ask the admin

humble stream
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my school's policy is that i have to request sending the grades otherwise they wont do it, even if theyre the one getting the request and not me so i was just wondering if i would even know to put in the request

old turtle
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huh, if that's a standard policy, sounds like you have to send the grades to schools rather than them requesting it

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just as an overall thing

west light
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Are first quarter grades the same as mid year?

old turtle
snow pewter
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Eerie

old turtle
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Someone may or may not have put a Princeton t-shirt on the John Harvard statue and gotten photographic evidence

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maybe I should've posted this in the Harvard megathread

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naaaah

snow pewter
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Oh thats john harvard LMAO

safe wren
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would not be the first time trash was thrown on it shrug

old turtle
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the whole touching of the foot thing makes no sense to me... but superstition

humble stream
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my princeton interview was awesomesauce

jolly wasp
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mine is on sunday ım a little anxious

jolly wasp
humble stream
# jolly wasp do you have any advices

don’t be nervous!! going into it i def was because i get a lot of social anxiety but just think of it as a conversation, my interviewer was really good at blending questions into conversation so it didn’t really feel like an interview at all

jolly wasp
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do they look at your application before the interview or just asking general questions

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for some schools ı heard that they actually look at your application so if thats the case ıll prepare for it

humble stream
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i dont think they see your application because my interviewer asked what i was interested in studying

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so be prepared to talk a little bit about what you wanna do and what you currently do

humble stream
jolly wasp
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that'd be awesome

old turtle
humble stream
old turtle
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well, I have no idea what your interviewer will do, but that's what I think we're supposed to do

humble stream
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yeah i highly doubt he'll answer and idm but i sent one anyway thanks

pulsar crest
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My schools first quarter grades are finalized, but my counselor says I shouldn’t send them to Princeton because only mid year grades officially update the transcript at my school. But Princeton says they recommend sending first quarter grades if possible, and we still have the actual grades. Should I try to find a way to send them with my school counselor or not worry about it unless I’m requested to send my first quarter grades? He’s also not that knowledgeable

placid trench
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Apparently pton matched a lot of people from my school with interviewers who graduated from my school

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Very nice of them

jolly wasp
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my interview went amazing🄳

humble stream
jolly wasp
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it was like a chat actually, nothing too serious so ı loved it

jolly wasp
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is it a bad sign that nearly half of the interview was about me having triplets, my house's garden and our common favorite shows and movies with the interviewer

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ım just anxious right now like was it too casual

old turtle
west light
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My interviewer cancelled on me thrice

old turtle
west light
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Waiting for the 4th time

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but yeah I think the reports due next week so idk

old turtle
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I wouldn't worry about it. Life is complicated. Is it remote now?

west light
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I hope it doesn't get rushed and turns out bad

old turtle
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yeah, they want them in by 11/28 with a 12/1 hard deadline

west light
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Went from in person to remote

west light
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before 1st

old turtle
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I've been assigned interviews late and just did them remote instead of in person. Admissions office has no preference

west light
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That's true but I feel I'd cook in person vs remote

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Welp whatever

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Do you know if princeton has a specific day they like announcing early decisions?

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I've read (probably unreliable sources) that

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Most ivies release early on the Thursday of the 2nd week of dec

pulsar crest
median zealot
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but no guarantees

frosty umbra
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we also have late meal which sells sushi, salad bowls, and many other good stuff

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but you can get it for free as a freshman

median zealot
old turtle
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or do you mean you use points that you already paid for?

twin adder
frosty umbra
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lmao

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*except im on fin aid so it's still free for me

twin adder
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included

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in a normal dining plan

twin adder
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like regionally blocked

dusk forge
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for a major like physics is only the AB degree offered? I don't really understand the ab vs bse thing since common app lets you choose any major regardless of that

old turtle
white marten
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What is happening in the admissions process rn

median zealot
white marten
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Like is it in committee, etc

median zealot
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I don’t think anyone here knows lol

dusk forge
old turtle
west light
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Sitting in interview meet

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5 mins to go

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šŸ¤ž

west light
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Nice interviewer, nice interview, fumbled a bit in the beginning but he was lowk a chill guy

snow pewter
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Yay!

snow pewter
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LOL

west light
dusk forge
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for the 500 word princeton essay on lived experiences, are u supposed to talk about what you will do with this at princeton? Some guides online say you should while others dont

humble stream
old turtle
dusk forge
gritty spindle
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it says this ". As a prospective member of this community, reflect on how your lived experiences will impact the conversations you will have in the classroom, the dining hall or other campus spaces. "

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so when i was writing, i assumed they wanted to know about how my community/background would impact the princeton community so i wrote about it

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it also asks what will your classmates learn from you so it seems safe to assume they want to know what you'd do at princeton

west light
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Just remember lived experiences can mean a lot of stuff, not just your race/ethnicity etc

twin adder
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physics isnt engineering

finite minnow
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has pton annouced when theyre releasing decisions yet

west light
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Probably 12th

finite minnow
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hopefully its that early šŸ™

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bc normally princeton is same day as yale and yales releasing on the 17th this yr

old turtle
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I think the lived experiences question is great because it allows you to differentiate yourself separately from external characteristics.

jolly wasp
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😭

twin elm
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im so cooked

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i hope i can just get in or ill have to do like a billion other apps. Some ppl at my school are saying that even if they get into an ivy ea theyre still gunna send out apps to all of them. like whyyyyyyy

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mit yale and pton all have generous aid packages so are they just trying to flex or something?

gritty spindle
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lmaooo i remember running this stuff too

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yall got it gl

old turtle
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what a waste of time, money and effort

twin elm
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i heard it will negatively affect the chances of everyone else applying rd. is that true?

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lol see tiger=tears of joy, no tiger=despair

old turtle
pulsar crest
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I think it’s more likely they stick to doing it on a Thursday than match Yale’s

twin elm
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even though its unlikely, i hope its on friday bc I would hate going to school and have everyone asking to know about acceptances

tough juniper
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Thursday, December 12, 2019
Thursday, December 16, 2021
Thursday, December 15, 2022
Thursday, December 14, 2023

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Dunno what happened to my 2020 log lmfao

white marten
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Eurgh

old turtle
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pattern is pretty definitive for 12/12/2024

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back in the ancient times, I got my letter on a Wednesday priority mail

white marten
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Teehee I’m nervous

old turtle
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If nervous, work on RD. But I think you've mentioned that you've already submitted a bunch of applications. Go.... For a run?

west light
vague heron
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same šŸ¤‘šŸ¤‘šŸ¤‘šŸ¤‘

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the only ones i like rereading are the short takes

old turtle
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Kinda surprised how many people here applied to Princeton

twin elm
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Same

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I know for me it was bc their rotc detachment has been very active in recruiting and sending people for visits

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Which made me choose princeton over any other school when applying ea

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But also a lot of ppl at my school have applied bc they only saw the #1 ranking which doesnt make sense bc us world and news report ranks using strange criteria

old turtle
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I agree. I think rankings are rather arbitrary. You can't really quantify undergraduate experience and support, and I think that's where Princeton excels.

twin elm
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also dont they consider the graduate schools which skews the undergrad rankings? because some schools have strong undergrads but weak graduate schools but are ranked low becauase of it

jolly wasp
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totally same ı especially loved my soundtrack choice and my reasoning

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but not sure about the service civic engagement one tho

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just hope for the best atp

white marten
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so many people applied rea

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im cooked

south harbor
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Ye ngl

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Damn

vague heron
jolly wasp
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ı think the prompt was too broad in the community one they could be more exact

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are you guys from us or int

white marten
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us

vague heron
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same

pulsar crest
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They’re probably gonna read hundreds of different interpretations of the prompt

old turtle
gilded bear
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What are you guys doing for the graded paper?

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All the good ones I have are way over 2 pages

old turtle
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If you read carefully, those are guidelines

gilded bear
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Like 9 pages I'm not sure if they'd read that

old turtle
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They're just going to skim it. They aren't reading the 2 page ones either

gilded bear
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Oh alright

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Do you think something for an AP Exam would be fine?

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Not really sure about the confidentiality with that

old turtle
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Does it meet the guidelines?

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What I'm trying to say is... Meet the guidelines, don't stress too much

gilded bear
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Alright

gilded bear
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I have other ones I could use but they're handwritten

old turtle
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Does it fit the guidelines?

gilded bear
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I'm pretty sure but I need to find them and legibility is questionable

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Thanks though

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I think I'm overthinking this

humble stream
old turtle
humble stream
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im doing my best to channel my anxiety into rd apps but i feel myself getting more burnt out by the minute šŸ’€

left tapir
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are princeton application rea results basically already done? thinking of updating the AOs

humble stream
old turtle
west light
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bro 😭😭😭 same

old turtle
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Don't worry about it. That's typical. There's artists that had to be barred from their own galleries because they kept going back and touching it up after completion. Nothing is "perfect"

old turtle
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It feels super important now, but it won't be in a year

ionic terrace
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The secret is not opening your application after you submit it

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Forget you applied until the decision date

median zealot
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I just pretended I never applied and did all of my rd apps

old turtle
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It's a process

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You get a lot more used to failure later over the course of your life šŸ˜…

gilded bear
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How do I even do this community essay 😭

snow pewter
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Omg fr
What will they learn from me??? 😭

gilded bear
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Like bro I'm truly drawing a blank here

white marten
white marten
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Are you a child of immigrants, from a strange place, dealt with a weird life situstion

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I wrote about what it’s like to live in my town

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And then tied it back to the perspective can contribute

gilded bear
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Of course, I'm a member of a ton of communities. Of course, my experiences will shape my college experience. But, the struggle is finding something that's actually unique.

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Like, sure I'm an immigrant but there's many international applicants so that doesn't mean much

twin elm
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i feel like it wasnt the struggle itself thats supposed to be unique

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its how you plan to use it to contribute to the princeton community

snow pewter
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mm ok i think maybe i have an idea but the contribution part might be meh

twin elm
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that q cooked me on the interview tho

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bc they kinda phrased it like "students at princeton are all the best in the nation at something.... what are you the best at that will make you fit into that category of student"

snow pewter
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i would despise that question

twin elm
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like i get theres always a how would you contribute but when its phrased like that, Im sure theres gotta be someone in the history of princeton thats better than me at any thing i can think of

white marten
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My interviewer never once asked me what I’d contribute to Princeton or why I wanted to go

twin elm
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whaaaa

white marten
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He didn’t ask me any questions about the university

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We just talked

twin elm
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i wish it was like that

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mine were what i would contribute and what challenges I faced

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and why i thought princeton would be better than schools like stanford or yale

white marten
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At one point he threw in a ā€œit’s pretty obvious why you want to goā€ which confused me a lil bit but pop off interviewer

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Or something to that effect

twin elm
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lmaooooo

white marten
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I don’t think he was accusing me of prestige whoring

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Because the whole thing was an insane glazefest

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But maybe that’s his style

twin elm
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lol ive done a bunch of interviews because of my west point application and rotc but ive never had an interview like the princeton one lol

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it was zoom so maybe thats why it was so awkward but sometimes he would just stare at me

white marten
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He said he ā€œrarely gets to do thisā€ so he was super excited

white marten
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We talked for almost an hour

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About everything istg

twin elm
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yea mine was abt that long but a lot of it was me asking questions

white marten
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I asked two questions

twin elm
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cuz princeton approaches a lot of things differently

white marten
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I asked one question about support for incoming rural students to which he didn’t have an answer

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And I asked another question about the nature of how students interact and if it’s a constructive environment to learn in

twin elm
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yea i did a culture one as well

white marten
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And he said that while Princeton used to be a very dog eat dog, competitive place it has become very very cooperative lately

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Oh I suppose I asked three

twin elm
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but i asked about like languages and study abroad but my guy didnt do those

white marten
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I asked how he made friends at Princeton

twin elm
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i asked about how competitive it was between students but all i got was that its just like any other school lol

white marten
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And he explained how you’re sorted into houses and you take your gen ed classes solely within those houses and that’s kind of your crew

white marten
twin elm
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yea its kinda sad if you dont like yours and it never changes

white marten
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Which was nice to hear

twin elm
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its kinda like hogwarts lol

white marten
twin elm
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but dont residential colleges never change?

white marten
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I don’t think so but I’m not sure

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Princeton isn’t enormous so you can probably pretty easily make cross-college friends

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Esp if you join clubs and stuff

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Like if I get in I’m auditioning for the PUO

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And joining the astronomy club

twin elm
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yea i asked about the eating clubs too

white marten
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I didn’t ask

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I felt it wasn’t important

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I don’t care so much about frat life

twin elm
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i thought it was something unique to princeton that i didnt rly understand

white marten
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It’s just frats but with a fancy name basically

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I’ll have better things to do tbh

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If I get in

twin elm
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yea lol

white marten
#

Gotta stay cautiously positive

twin elm
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lol sometimes i get too confident and i gotta remind myself to be realistic

white marten
#

It’s hard for me because everyone I’m around gasses me up all the time

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Even here

old turtle
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You meet people in a lot of different ways. The people in your room, your RA group, your residential college are simply the closest people to you geographically on campus. Socially, there's the people in your classes, social and cultural groups, random people you meet as friends of friends.

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Eating clubs are where people party on Thursday and Saturday nights. Some require social connections to get into, some are open to all. Sophomore year, you sign in (non selective) or bicker (selective) to join an eating club.

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You eat there junior and senior year

twin elm
#

its not as intense as greek life at other schools right

old turtle
#

Having not experienced Greek life, I have no idea.

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I joined a sign in club. It was fun and stress free

twin elm
#

like wdym party

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is it like hanging out?

old turtle
#

But I imagine someone trying to get into Ivy or Cottage would have to figure shit out

twin elm
#

or do ppl drink a ton of alcohol

old turtle
#

You drink as much as you want to, hang out. Play pool, dance, talk, pong, video games. Whatever

twin elm
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because i heard it has a large affect on your social life so i dont wanna be a recluse lol but im also not into heavy partying (if i get in ofc)

old turtle
#

Find a dark corner with a friend etc.

twin elm
#

also i heard each one kinda fits its own niche?

old turtle
#

I didn't party before college. My most memorable hangouts were playing pool with friends with a few beers

twin elm
#

thats cool lol

old turtle
#

There always a range of what works for you

twin elm
#

is there stuff to do other than nyc and nassau st?

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also how stressed are the students there

old turtle
old turtle
#

There's always mental support services. When I was there, there was a little bit of a stigma around it, but there was some stat floating around that 75% of students visit counseling services at least once. I would be surprised if it wasn't much higher now. Mental health awareness is MUCH higher now

twin elm
#

also i saw that theres grade deflation at princeton, does it is really impactful for your college experience?

old turtle
#

I was there when they first introduced grade deflation. It affects the early large classes more than it affects junior /senior level seminar classes. Your transcript comes with a letter talking about grade deflation policies

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Ultimately, almost nobody graduates with a 4.0. Valedictorian is a faculty vote and it's kids who take 6-7 courses a semester, etc.

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GPA matters if you're going med school /law school. Not so much in other areas?

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Maybe finance?

twin elm
#

for me, rotc summer programs are calculated with gpa playing a big part but i dont think they account for grade deflation

old turtle
#

I have friends who did rotc, but they never mentioned the summer program

twin elm
#

i meant more like selection based on competing for slots like airborne school

old turtle
#

If you're interested in med school, then I think you have to optimize for grades.

twin elm
#

like theres the oml (order of merit list) that is also used to determine what branch you get into based on your rank

old turtle
twin elm
#

its ok lol. the main thing is just the gpa expectation

old turtle
#

Yeah, like you try not to take too many hard courses at the same time, that sort of thing

twin elm
#

also does anyone know what comp sci / comp e is like at princeton

old turtle
#

My best friends were CS or EE. I think everyone works hard regardless of major

twin elm
#

any complaints from them about their major or anything like that?

old turtle
#

Not really. Mostly difficult late night problem set sessions

twin elm
#

that good then

old turtle
#

Like, the coursework it's difficult. I think the professors give like 8 hours a week per class. But 8 hours of work for a professor isn't 8 hours for a student. Multiply that for 4-5 courses and do it in STEM

white marten
#

Damn

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40 hours+ per week

median zealot
#

I still have time to do all of my club stuff but it’s still like

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working most of the time

woeful trout
#

are y'all able to set good boundaries between work and fun or is it kinda blurred?

median zealot
#

I personally am able to balance it but I’m also a freshman so there’s still a long road ahead of me

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but if you establish good habits and surround yourself with healthy people I think it’s fine

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obviously some people are built different and they’re unbothered by the grind but idk I want to enjoy my time here with other people lol

woeful trout
#

icc that makes sense ty

jolly wasp
old turtle
#

so presuming you're an engineer and taking 5 course semesters, that's 48+ hours out of the 168 hours in a week

ionic terrace
hard palm
#

Oof

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That does sound fun, in a way tbh

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But sounds like having a job + involved in clubs + classes would be very hard

white marten
#

hopefully the goal is to not need a job

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but thats not feasible for everyone

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40 hours per week seems like a lot now, and it still is, but consider it when you no longer have an 8 hour school day + extremely long obligations like jobs

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the majority of your day will be consumed with work but i dont think it will feel as hectic and insane for most people

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for me its gonna feel hectic and insane because my course rigor is... idaho

humble stream
#

any indication on questbridge when decisions will be out?

white marten
#

they were today

white marten
humble stream
#

not questbridge

#

as in was there any indication on the qb acceptance letters when the rea decisions will officially be released

white marten
#

no

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why would they say that in QB

humble stream
#

multiple schools have done that

white marten
#

but its all but confirmed to be Dec 12

humble stream
#

columbias is now like the 18th or something

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revealed in qb

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so i was wondering if princeton indicated any particular day that rea would be released

vague heron
#

no decision date unfortunately

humble stream
#

damn theyre too mysterious

vague heron
#

nonchalant and shit šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

hard palm
#

I would choose anxiety tbh

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I would focus better being anxious than crushed

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Valid lol

median zealot
#

everyone gets absolutely fucked in writing sem

jolly wasp
#

is there an official release date now?

median zealot
tough juniper
#

QB letters said early December iirc

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So I’d bet on sooner than later

old turtle
white marten
#

Sounds soul crushing

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Which means I’ll love it

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Freshman bonding time crying over writing

old turtle
#

more likely Physics 105, but same difference

white marten
#

I heard people were receiving Q1 grade requests, is this true?

twin adder
#

omg questbridge out

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how exciting

twin adder
#

just research writing

twin adder
#

if you need help with an assignment reaching out to a classmate is a normal step

twin adder
twin adder
white marten
twin adder
#

voluntary engagement

white marten
#

I figured

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Shame that I won’t ever get to try it out

twin adder
white marten
#

People tell me I’m too confident and then I put on the brakes and people tell me I’m too negative

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Argh

twin adder
#

matter

white marten
#

We’ll see what happens

twin adder
#

how you feel

white marten
#

Precisely

twin adder
#

the nihilist would say just dont bother agonizing over it

white marten
#

Yeah

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We’ll see

twin adder
#

it has no utility to worry over a decision out of your hands now

white marten
#

Focusing pretty heavy on Caltech

twin adder
#

ah cal t

white marten
#

Physics

twin adder
#

i know some kids in my year who got caltech rea

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and then didnt go in favor of pton LOL

white marten
#

Dang

twin adder
#

all that caltech commitment for nothing

white marten
#

I’ve got nobody else around me to look at in terms of applying to top schools

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So I’m a little excited and a little nervous at the same time

twin adder
#

my year

elfin sedge
#

Has anyone gotten the q1 request?

twin adder
#

and there were like 3 kids in my county i think

white marten
#

Nobody from my school has gone to a T20 since 1994

twin adder
#

physics here is goated

white marten
twin adder
#

and very rigorous

white marten
elfin sedge
#

Ohh okay

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I applied REA

twin adder
white marten
elfin sedge
white marten
#

If they send them they’ll probably do it this week, I doubt they would’ve last week

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Because of the holiday

elfin sedge
#

Yeah I saw ppl got it around December 5

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Last year

white marten
#

Fingers crossed

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But I’m not sure how much of an indicator for success that is

twin adder
#

no thats just sandard

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standard

white marten
#

They may just want to know how you’re doing in your current year courses

elfin sedge
#

And this year results are coming out earlier right?

white marten
twin adder
#

dont do portal astrology

white marten
elfin sedge
#

Oh it doesn’t matter?

twin adder
#

in retrospect i shouldve just submitted apps and lived my life

elfin sedge
#

Good luck yall btw

white marten
#

Although my counselor might not get one because she already filled out the Q1 optional report on common

twin adder
#

waiting for decisions was so debilitating

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😭

elfin sedge
#

It’s so scary 😭

white marten
#

I’m not scared just… anxious

twin adder
#

thats a form of fear

elfin sedge
#

Yeahh that’s what I meant

white marten
#

I want it to be over at any cost

twin adder
#

just wait til you get to college and still feel just as emptyšŸ’Æ

elfin sedge
#

Do you like it at Princeton?

twin adder
#

love it

elfin sedge
#

That’s great!

twin adder
#

the university treats us as adults and with a lot of freedom

white marten
#

I’m gonna love it anywhere I go tbh

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I’m plotting to form a secret undergraduate intermural physics research group

twin adder
#

to bring this group of kids together

old turtle
#

🤣 we crazy

white marten
#

I’m assuming you’ve got all sorts of people there

twin adder
white marten
#

I love vastly different people

twin adder
#

my roommate is like in a completely opposite discpline as me

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and opposite social vibe

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he's like a usaco platinum guy LMFAO

white marten
#

Vastly different people is my favorite thing about working in public service

twin adder
#

and did hella olympiads

white marten
#

I had never even heard of olympiads until this year 😢

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I did cooler stuff šŸ˜Ž

twin adder
#

olympiads can be shallow in effect

white marten
#

Well I mean it’s cool to me

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Idk if they’ll think it’s cool but it’s whatever

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Anyway lunch period is over so see ya

twin adder
#

it feels bad rn

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once youre an old sophomore like me youll realize its like 1/14 of your grades and GPA total

#

and it wont feel so important

old turtle
#

and if you're even older and got a D in writing seminar, it doesn't matter because I'm writing 2-3 scientific papers/grants a year

twin adder
#

its the only B i've ever gotten

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out of 9 pton classes

old turtle
#

there's some quote from some smart person that goes something like, "don't worry if you struggle with class, I assure you I was worse"

white marten
#

Fit matters

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Would she be a good fit?

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I mean legacy helps

tough juniper
#

If y’all find out before I do feel free to ping me with proof or message @pine dawn

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You can also email me the proof

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That’s new this year!

humble stream
#

i know especially at a time like this when it feels like you're being assessed of 'merit' or 'worthiness' to go to a certain university it's easy to be insecure (college admissions isnt a meritocracy anyway), but don't sweat it-- both of you have traits that can't be compared or quantified, and schools can be looking for different things to fit their instutional needs

and even if you dont get in, these amazing qualities you have and things youve done will still lead you to successful in life wherever you end up

humble stream
#

its something i definitely have to remind myself too lol

white marten
#

@sonic dome I would like to add that she may be rejected for having qualities an already admitted applicant reflect, and you could be accepted for just being you. Don’t take it as a poor reflection on yourself, take it as a ā€œthere just wasn’t enough roomā€

pulsar crest
#

What time do decisions usually release?

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Last year it was like 7pm right

white marten
#

Yes

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EST

jolly wasp
#

its 3 am in my local time zone

white marten
#

dont get too excited

#

rejection is nigh

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thats okay

#

it means they simply didnt have room for you; another school might

#

yep

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youre more than likely an extremely qualified applicant

#

youll land somewhere, we all will

#

it may takes some time but, we will

twin elm
#

Im def not unique enough

white marten
#

Depends

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The university could choose you for something you don’t expect

vague heron
#

this process is so stupidly random

twin elm
#

I think its best i dont think abt it

#

Princetons is esp random lol

#

Sometimes pll get into all ivies but princeton

pulsar crest
#

And some get into only Princeton

twin elm
#

Yea i saw those

#

So weird

pulsar crest
#

Institutional priorities or something

twin elm
#

Itd be so cool to sit in on admissions lol

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Prolly would make a lot of ppl mad tho

white marten
#

I don’t think it’s random

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They want the most diverse class possible

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If your qualities overlap significantly with someone they already have you might get rejected

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And fit is ignored but incredibly important

#

Would you thrive there or implode under the pressure?

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They can tell from the app

#

There’s a certain element of randomness regarding who’s app gets seen first, when it’s seen, what mood the AO is in, etc, but that can be said for job interviews and anything evaluation based in life

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But if you’re in, you’re in for a good reason. If you’re out, you’re out for an equally visible reason, even if it’s just ā€œyou probably wouldn’t like it hereā€ or ā€œwe have someone like you alreadyā€

old turtle
#

last year I interviewed 5 kids. 2 were extremely good/strong, but they didn't get in. Later I found out they got into Harvard and MIT. The one kid I interviewed remotely for early, didn't really connect, and he got in. I think at the end of the day, Princeton is a geographically insular research university. It might feel random from the few individuals you know about as high schoolers, but I'm sure there's a rhyme and reason about it internally.

twin elm
#

Would princeton not be a good school to rea then

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Bc it would be better to raise chances for other schools when princeton accepts based on their criteria (not just stats)

white marten
white marten
#

I think REA is perfect for that tbh

#

Now this is purely speculative but here’s how I think it could go:

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Accepted: you were a kind of person on the wish list
Deferred: definitely worthy, but you don’t necessarily satisfy an institutional priority, so you will be checked against RD applicants to see
Rejected: no chance in hell/definitely not going to distinguish yourself in RD (intls and demographics with high applicant volumes)

twin elm
#

Actually yea it does make sense

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Bc if they compare with ppl they alr accepted wouldnt being looked at first before rd help

white marten
#

I think so

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RD is for what they have left on their wish list plus whoever else they can fit

#

Now again

#

PURELY speculative

#

But it would make sense if it was decided this way

old turtle
#

I mean, think about it - Princeton has a classics department. There are undergrads in that department, right?

white marten
#

To me at least

old turtle
#

religion, art and archaeology etc.

white marten
#

Yeah

old turtle
#

history/english/politics are going to be popular no matter what. STEM is hot for the past 20 years

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anthropology/sociology/psychology, there's what - 50 departments?

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1500 undergrads per class minus athletes minus some legacy, then you need to keep some small departments alive

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there was a population studies department, there was a statistics department (Tukey if anyone's heard of the Tukey test, used to run that department)

jolly wasp
#

How many internationals do they accept in rea generally

white marten
#

People interested in those majors get a little more attention

old turtle
median zealot
#

so not very many people from a given country

old turtle
#

all the information is there if you care to look

white marten
#

I believe intls were 13% of the class of 28

pulsar crest
old turtle
#

I think FGLI has been a problem at Princeton. So has certain demographics. I don't know if it's gotten better. I know the SCOTUS decision made things more complicated if they wanted to make those demographic goals a priority

snow pewter
#

As a research institution that also prides itself on its liberal arts curriculum, Princeton allows students to explore areas across the humanities and the arts, the natural sciences, and the social sciences. What academic areas most pique your curiosity, and how do the programs offered at Princeton suit your particular interests? (250 words or fewer)*
how much didyou guys write about the academic area vs programs at princeton

west light
#

Why did I not know anything about this 😭😭

twin elm
white marten
west light
#

Does anyone know princeton early decision date from questbridge

white marten
#

No but it’s highly speculated to be Dec 12th

snow pewter
white marten
snow pewter
#

Was it like 50/50

west light
#

Would rather cry on 12th than a week before Christmas tbh

white marten
#

Don’t put too much stock in my app lol I’m definitely getting rejected

snow pewter
#

Oh 😭 dont say that

white marten
#

I’m preparing for it

#

Anything else is a pleasant surprise

warm panther
#

who got Q1 grade reqs from princeton

white marten
#

Nobody brother give it a rest

warm panther
#

bro can you dm me if you find anything out?

warm panther
median zealot
warm panther
#

this is what gpt gave me

#

For 18 to 60 applicants, 2 to 8 Middle Eastern students are likely accepted through REA at Princeton.

#

im cooooooooked

#

nah hopefully all goes well

tough juniper
white marten
median zealot
old turtle
old turtle
warm panther
#

~220 intls accepted last year, ur saying only 8 were intl in REA?

#

i think thats too low

old turtle
#

I think the 7-800 means 700-800 people are accepted REA

warm panther
#

also guys

warm panther
#

yo guys

#

Was watching a video where ex-AOs go over an application, and a student's 1490 and lack of advanced math was ultimately their downfall (their prediction of a rejection), at Princeton.

I have a 1530 superscore (790M) and my highest single sitting is 1480. Most T10s take self-reported, so they will only see my SS. The problem here is I applied to Pton, which asks me to SEND my scores, so they'll see what I said earlier.

How does this impact me for Princeton? For context, I've taken 12 APs (4 this year), all 4s & 5s with all AP STEMs taken except AP Biology, Physics C: E&M, and AP Stats.

i'm intl too

#

princeton does superscore but again yeah

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so idk

old turtle
#

If you sent your application in already, there's nothing you can do. If you're stressed, work on your RD applications

warm panther
#

if it negatively impacts my application, ill be primed for a rejection

#

lowering my expectations

south harbor
#

It won’t

old turtle
south harbor
#

790m is above median

warm panther
south harbor
#

They superscore tho

#

So

warm panther
#

but again they apparently superscore but ask to send sat scores which is really dumb

south harbor
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

warm panther
south harbor
#

Ye

ionic terrace
#

Why is this thread so active

old turtle
#

I mean, maybe they want to make sure that people aren't lying on their applications

old turtle
warm panther
south harbor
#

US

warm panther
ionic terrace
#

Compared to the others

subtle summit
warm panther
subtle summit
#

Life will continue I promise

warm panther
#

i got into tamu so i feel like a weight is lifted to an extent

old turtle
warm panther
#

but i really want to get into a top top school

subtle summit
warm panther
#

would be so much happier w a pton acceptance

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you know the sad thing is like

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not sad but

#

i put my best foot forward for that school

#

like my application couldnt have been any better except for like a single grammar mistake

#

recs and essays and all that were the best i could do

subtle summit
#

Even if it’s not immediately

subtle summit
old turtle
warm panther
#

and if i dont get in i feel like i wont get in anywhere else because i gave pton the best and it wasnt enough

#

but i know all this is luck

warm panther
#

so it isss what it isss

warm panther
subtle summit
warm panther
warm panther
#

it was diffwerent instutiuonal priorities

subtle summit
old turtle
#

Every school is looking for fit. Princeton either way has no influence on other school results

subtle summit
warm panther
#

im coping

#

youre all right

old turtle
#

chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil

warm panther
#

that hard part is i have 4 other schools

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14*

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to write

#

and i have finals in a week

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and i need to keep As

#

i just finished UCs and now i need to keep running this marathon

subtle summit
#

When I got rejected from my rea school and deferred ea I was convinced I wouldn’t be going to college lol but here I am

subtle summit
warm panther
#

but if i hear good news next week im only applying to like 3 schools

subtle summit
#

If you get in you can stop

warm panther
subtle summit
#

If you don’t you have motivation and/or anxiety

warm panther
#

@old turtledyk anything about the quarter 1 grade request princeton makes each rea round

#

for some reason this year it hasnt been done

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unless for QB

old turtle
#

apparently, nobody else here who applied got it

#

that should answer your question

#

as an alum, I have no inside connections, I'm just here to answer questions because I feel like it

#

and apparently play hs therapist

old turtle
west light
#

It's hard to get into the flow initially

#

Princeton has been my worst application so far, and I'm kind of happy about that

#

Atleast I improved

old turtle
#

I remember writing at least 12 drafts in my Princeton application

#

hmm, 10. I still have them šŸ˜…

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I made up the last 2 out of pure imagination

twin adder
twin adder
#

i mean i just edited on the same google doc

#

but i certainly did many edits

old turtle
#

that way if I want to recover entire paragraphs etc., I can just do that

#

it's like mental checkpointing

twin adder
#

its like 700

#

this wouldnt change so much from year to year

twin adder
#

this is cope

white marten
#

You people seriously need to find other schools to get excited about

twin adder
#

naw i was a princeton stan from sophomore year forth

#

commit to the bit

white marten
#

I was memeing around last night and looked at the Northeastern physics department and they have a cooperative undergrad-grad dark matter research team

#

That excited me and I ended up applying for the hell of it since northeastern doesn’t hav essays

twin adder
#

i mean i had above 1550 but

#

i dont think that was that important

white marten
#

Find a hobby that isn’t obsessing over borderline portal astrology sheesh

white marten
white marten
#

A 1490 in a less opportunistic high school will mean a lot even though it doesn’t have the shiny 15 attached to it

twin adder
#

like yeah if you are from a realtly underprivileged area or school theyll be a bit more forgiving

#

but consider the median for submitted scores is like 1570 now for these schools

#

cuz its optional

white marten
#

Really the median is probably closer to 1520-1530

#

Biggreen always says to check the pre covid data sets

twin adder
#

cuz they have way lower SAT scores

#

if its just nonhooked/recruited studnets its prolly like

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1550-1580

#

LOL

#

not very forgiving

white marten
#

Ngl my 750 in math looks hella bad until you see it in context

hot zephyr
twin adder
#

so they started giving likely letters and stem scholarships for strong students

white marten
#

That’s cool

twin adder
#

i know RSI kids who got yale likelies

#

its just like, they want to capture better stem talent

white marten
#

Yale is on my list if I don’t get into Princeton, provided, I am probably not going to get into either

#

But I’m good enough to try

twin adder
#

its not damning

#

its just you need to be competent and compelling otherwise

white marten
#

Not many opportunities to do that unfortunately

#

Just a product of where I live

#

I took online calc when no other senior did this year

twin adder
#

i dont think thats an excuse, theres plenty of stuff you can do on your own

#

has nothing to do with your school

white marten
#

Math classes definitely have to do with your school

twin adder
#

i meant like ecs

white marten
#

Well yeah I have plenty of great ECs

twin adder
#

are not constrained, you can do whatever you want

white marten
#

Robotics team captain, community stem outreach stuff like that

twin adder
#

nice

#

i was an orientation leader and one kid in my group was a robotics kid

#

he got like silver at worlds or something LOL

#

and was an international

#

super cracked

white marten
#

I wrote a nice little essay about the robotics camps I do for local kids to help build interest in stem around here

#

Yeah our team isn’t cracked because we’re from the middle of nowhere but we do lots of stem outreach

#

I do lots of public speaking for fundraising

#

And when I was made team captain we placed fifth at our regional last year which was an all time high

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Unfortunately it’s probably not enough but eh whatever

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I know I made an impact and the goal of these things was never to get me into college anyway

twin adder
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same w harv and yale tho, its not just pton

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i mean i got into multiple ivies

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but its definitely not a ubiquitous phenomenon amongst my classmates

hot zephyr
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Honestly that’s so based. I’m ngl, when I was starting hs my goal was to do things to get into a good college, but I ended up falling in love with a lot of the activities I did

white marten
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I never have had the intention of doing something for the app

twin adder
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it helps make you a better person and realize your potential

white marten
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Which is probably ironically why I’ll get rejected because I could’ve done more šŸ’€

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I’m fine with that tbh

twin adder
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i mean by the end of college apps i was so tired i didnt even care that much in the moment

white marten
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I’m not a sweat and if they don’t want me that’s too bad

twin adder
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😭

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and it was just a nice little treat and reward to get into some ivies

white marten
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Precisely

twin adder
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the real acceptance was the friends we made along the way...

white marten
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I think I still have a chance but it would definitely be an upset if I get in

white marten
hot zephyr
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Yeah it makes balancing ecs and classes so bearable when you actually like doing them

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So honestly that’s a good thing

twin adder
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struggling to pay attention

hot zephyr
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LMAO

white marten
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I’ve also worked in public service for two and a half years so that might look good tbh