University of Pennsylvania (UPenn) (2024-2025)

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yo i saw this tweet not long ago that it would be really fun to spend your whole life in college and just learn shit. i wouldnt do it obviously. but its a nice thought. ill try to retire early, go to finland and live there with my family, and i would just read and learn stuff

[trim yoke]

naw at a point u should learn on ur own

there r more books than any unviersitt can teach

[olive badge]

probably yeah. im thinking like sciency concentrations yk? engineering, physics, chem. i dont like the idea of math at a college, that id prefer on my own. but i like the vibe of just living your entire life as a sponge absorbing everything, its really poetic. like a monument to the greatness of humanity

[trim yoke]

yea real shit

[olive badge]

you see the vision

[trim yoke]

itd be crazy to get a ton of phds just for shits an dgiggles

im ngl

like ar a point ull be so good at research

u can just farm them

ong

[olive badge]

bro my friend were fucking around a few days ago. he found a wiki page of 'perpetual students'. there was a table of people who just have a shit ton of degrees. one guy had 13 phds, and we connected with him on linkedin

[trim yoke]

slide

[olive badge]

messaged him to inform of this article, told him we're his biggest fans, and then he posted the article lmao

[trim yoke]

13 phds at normal time is like 78 years lmao

[olive badge]

in between weird ai slop

[trim yoke]

did he speedrun them

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oh wait fuck

was that not allowed my fault

[trim yoke]

what

if it was a link it got auto deleted i suppose

[olive badge]

oh yeah it was a link

anyway

[trim yoke]

https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=bzM7eWoAAAAJ&hl=en

thsi guy?

[olive badge]

w mans

yeah thats him

[trim yoke]

holy

multile unis just for fun

professional martial attist

[olive badge]

and cool places too. hungary, latvia, estonia

that shits so cool bro

[trim yoke]

multiple papers on the ethics of tax evasion

i wonder if he pays them

[olive badge]

😭

[trim yoke]

and is tryna justufy them

[olive badge]

is 21k citations a lot im not familiar

[trim yoke]

bro he has a jd

he can jsut be a lawyer hust for fun

[trim yoke]

yes

62 h index

fire

no 48

49*

[olive badge]

i mean yeah, on his linkedin he reposts jordan peterson and ayn rand quotes and shit

[trim yoke]

why would you do that instead of getting an accelerated masters

[olive badge]

my guess is it depends on the cas degree?

[olive badge]

and yeah that too. ive heard good things from friends about submatriculation

[trim yoke]

yeah i want to get a submat in math 😁😁😁

[olive badge]

ur a math major?

[austere spindle]

any dual degree is annoying

[trim yoke]

😋😋😋

bro

u dont need two degrees to prove that u have interdisciplinary knowledge

[austere spindle]

accel masters a lot more doable

only 7 extra credits

[trim yoke]

fr

math submat is 4 *if math major

[austere spindle]

which is still like one extra per sem but

[olive badge]

how is it? i have a friend (who in fairness is a d1 hater of everything) who hates the way math department is run

[austere spindle]

insane

[trim yoke]

ya

bad

like intro iss hit

[austere spindle]

we’re only allowed to dounle count 3 classes

[trim yoke]

higher level

the profs are chill

[olive badge]

gotcha, thats nice

[trim yoke]

as long as they arent new like mine was 😝😝😝

[olive badge]

what math r u taking rn

[trim yoke]

last sem i took linalg and intro proofs

next im taking advanced linalg and pde’s

[olive badge]

thats chill

[trim yoke]

yea the math one doublecounts 4

and the major is only 13 cu

[austere spindle]

no way its only 8 courses

[trim yoke]

i think so

ill check later

thats what someoen todl me

[olive badge]

yo does anyone have music recs

not looking for anything specific, just a very vague broadening my taste

[trim yoke]

tchaikovsky

[median dew]

Skull emoji

[trim yoke]

yo its a valid rec

top 10 music sof all time

[night socket]

yeah ik ty 🫡

our counselor said mid to late jan

i was just wondering where to do it

[left furnace]

Dw ESG is a new undergrad concentration hence why it's not as popular. It's the 4th most popular MBA concentration

Also it's easy to get sucked into the IB trap, but people do 2 concentrations: finance + ESG

[fathom shuttle]

hi

[naive timber]

guys wharton or cas

[deep spear]

anybody here used the common app fee waiver?

im not supposed to indicate it right?

[fervent herald]

https://www.thedp.com/article/2024/12/penn-early-decision-results-class-of-2029

[golden seal]

you are if you need it

[naive timber]

philosophy or polisci but a good chunk of my ecs are business-related

[wooden needle]

yeah anecdotally, a lot of accepted wharton students this past ed cycle did not have any previous business experience!!

[frosty aspen]

do you know what sort of things they highlighted instead? (or that you highlighted if this was the case for you too LOL)

[mossy spade]

We do a little trolling

[wooden needle]

demonstrated leadership is a MUST!!

[wooden needle]

definitely worth a read-through: https://admissions.upenn.edu/how-to-apply/preparing-your-application

[austere spindle]

bros at my home…

bros literally in front of my dorm building…

[mossy spade]

I got stuck with a 7 hour layover in Philly because American Airlines had an IT problem 😭

Decided that I might as well visit stuff around the city in the process

[austere spindle]

wait i heard abt that

shits wild

sorry i did that guys

[trim yoke]

is it that easy to get a fee waiver?

[bright dagger]

“Write a short thank-you note to someone you have not yet thanked and would like to acknowledge.” If I pick someone like the teacher that wrote my recommendation, are they gonna assume that I haven’t thanked them cuz of how the prompt is phrased?

[sleek bough]

yes

they want to u write a note to someoe who u havent properly thanked yet

[bright dagger]

So u basically can’t pick any of the obvious ones?

Cuz if u pick ur dad or sum they’ll think u haven’t thanked ur dad which is a pretty bad look

[sleek bough]

i was at one of their webinars and they did say u could thank anyone as this essay is just a place for u to express gratitude

[sleek bough]

but that is how im personally intepreting the prompt so yeah, take my words with a grain of salt tho 😭

[austere spindle]

no you definitely can

MOST people who get in write it to an obvious one

i wrote it to a bsf, my friends wrote to parents, siblings, teachers etc

[tidal oracle]

hey there ✨

[wooden needle]

i wrote mines to my teacher which is hella overdone

nonetheless it worked

it doesn’t matter who you write it to, but how you write it (as cliche as it sounds)

[naive timber]

the only person i wouldnt pick is a parent, teacher is fine

some really good ones ive read have been thanking a janitor or a crosswalk guard aka someone who usually doesnt get thanked

but also just pick someone with an actual meaningful impact on your life, not just do something quirky for the prompt

[austere spindle]

pick a parent if you want to lmao

it’s not that deep

[dapper granite]

i wrote one to my dad and worked

[austere anvil]

hii!! can any upenn admitted student read over my essays <3?

please and thank u so so much

[wooden needle]

I can!

[ionic parrot]

lanyone applying to lsm program?

kinda stumped by the essay prompt, lowkey might not do it

[modern imp]

Which question is the Why UPenn

[naive timber]

Both the 2nd and the 3rd

The 2nd is about student orgs/initiatives and the 3rd is about classes/profs/programs

at least if you're talking about CAS

and you should be mixing in your previous accomplishments/ecs to "tie into" what you'll do there

[dull estuary]

Penn only having three essays is such a nice Christmas present

[grand pagoda]

It been like that 😭

[stable sphinx]

how many reccs do you need for penn

the options r confusing

[dull estuary]

I know, but it’s still nice

[modern imp]

Thank you so much @naive timber @river hearth

[wooden needle]

3

minimum

[naive timber]

really?

oh 3 including the counselor

phew

[fluid lodge]

Is it a good idea to mention two majors I’m interested in, or should I focus on one?

EE and CS

I thought they might be closely related enough

[naive timber]

mention both

if you're applying for CAS, they dont have a spot on common app to indicate major

so you need to specify

[fluid lodge]

I’m applying for SEAS

Would that change anything, or am I good to mention both still

[naive timber]

nvm in SEAS i think they let you specify

[fluid lodge]

Oh

[naive timber]

id still mention both

theres no downside to mentioning yk?

always just ask yourself "will something bad happen if i do this"

[fluid lodge]

Would it not be specific enough?

What I’m interested in connects the two but I’m not sure if it’ll seem to broad

[naive timber]

well what would be more specific

if you think it's not specific enough then just get more specific

[fluid lodge]

Hm I’ll get a draft done first ig

[naive timber]

^

[austere spindle]

don’t mention both

no one double majors in seas

what would make you want to mention both majors?

the coursework overlaps heavily for both majors (if you would like it to) or you can also just want to major in ai lol which is explicitly a combination of both majors

and being in one doesnt restrict you from participating in clubs/activities/research for the other

[fluid lodge]

I think I’ll go ce then

AI feels too specific to me

[austere spindle]

id recommend going for ee out of all of them tbh

ce is a very small major like 7 ppl

[fluid lodge]

Oh really

Hm ok, when they say you don’t declare a major until sophomore year does it mean you take the course in the major you signed up for but you’re free to change at any time?

[austere spindle]

in seas you come in declared

but you can switch major anytime

[prisma bobcat]

hey does this still work?

[formal stone]

where do i use this 😭

[plain zealot]

i thought penn was self report ?

wait this is very odd

,

[night socket]

it is

it just wont be shown on the pdf

shoot that means we also have to self report AP scores?

[iron cairn]

Wait im confused, its not official send right? If i do want it considered will they still see at all?

[prisma bobcat]

yes they will, it just wont be on the pdf

it'll be in the student data sent to them

[supple juniper]

that's impossible 😭
I am from Africa and ik 1 MIT admit from my country, 1 Stanford and 1 Princeton from other countries

[worthy echo]

how do i start my supp

like any ideas

[rocky fox]

By writing

[worthy echo]

ok

[patent berry]

I was talking abt Turkey only. African countries may be different but its a more controversial zone for us politically

[ionic parrot]

anyone else's community essay all over the place?

like im mostly just mentioning clubs and how i can contribute/engage with them

[formal stone]

i thought community essay was diversity

[ionic parrot]

oh is it?

[formal stone]

nvm

nvm

thats harvard

[ionic parrot]

ok u scared me 😭

ok appearntly this essay is supposed to be like that

so ig im fine

any penn students, pls correct me if im wrong!

[austere anvil]

HEY

I love Penn supps

just finished the app

[austere anvil]

I didn’t do this

I mentioned things I already do and how I want to keep doing the same at upenn

like rn I have a non profit for educational resources n I tied that back to upenn w my goals and all that

I think it should be good as long as u tie it back to urself

don’t mention stuff all over the place bc anyone can do that, make it smt only you can write yk

[ionic parrot]

So how many things did u talk about?

Bc I feel like I’m talking about way too many things in my supplemental

[austere anvil]

only one

[ionic parrot]

Hmm I see

Ty I will have to go back and cut some stuff out

[austere anvil]

look it sorta as quality over quantity

goodluck!!! 🙌🏻🩵

[ionic parrot]

Ty!

[naive timber]

penn supps so good

so straightforward

[naive timber]

i did 3

[ionic parrot]

That’s what I noticed too

Not a lot of room for fluff

[ionic parrot]

I think ima stick to 3 as well

[trim yoke]

yes this is the way!!!

i did 2

like if u list a bunch its gonna be boring

make the connection to the thing u talk about authentic

[paper oak]

why am i even in this thread anymore

i should go

[lone jetty]

an AO visited my school, and she saids its good to have nonprofits, but that just shows u dont need penn's resources

[lethal trench]

lmao what

[austere anvil]

huh 😭

[lone jetty]

basically she said "we teach u how to do these things, we dont expect you to have one but it kind of just shows you dont need our education"

something along the lines of that

and she said she hates very cliche businesses and nonprofits

like clothing related stuff

I assume because of so many fake ones out there that discredit people who truly want to make an impact

[austere anvil]

well it’s not like I’m doing a business major either

I’m a pre med

my non profit has nothing to do with medicine

my other ecs ofc like research do have to do w my major

And other stuff with uni professors

but my non profit I find it especially important because it was something my community really needed

our schools were closing, low income kids had no educational resources or tutoring bc of its high cost

even I grew up w my school being closed and lit tutoring or any resources being out of reach or too expensive

that’s why I created my non profit, and I want to continue making commmunity impact at Penn because I personally think that’s very important especially as a first gen student that firsthand experienced that inequality

it’s not like a I need penn’s resources to do this rather than at Penn I want to do this, and my other essay why was why upenn does mention how I will need penns resources to achieve my academic goals

so after all I do need penn’s resources, I just also happen to be a person that can identify problems in my conmubuoty and want to act upon that stuff

[naive timber]

AOs always have a few bad days sometimes

[gloomy trellis]

Idk if this a silly thing to say but like
You dont pick a major in the penn application??

[rancid jay]

yea but they have that academic interest essay so it's basically there in writing

also thought i missed that though had to ask a penn friend to be sure i didn't skip over it or smth LOL

[gloomy trellis]

No fr i was surprised

And my penn friend started talking about high school??

So I came here

Perf, turning in penn <3

[rancid jay]

good luck!!!

[gloomy trellis]

Thank you!!!

Likewise

[dull estuary]

Good luck to everyone submitting today!

[gloomy trellis]

Thank you :DDD

I have to finish this one Yale essay and then i can submit Yale

[dull estuary]

I’ll probably submit later, I want to work on essays a bit more

[gloomy trellis]

It’s so hard dude

[dull estuary]

Ooh good luck!

[gloomy trellis]

Fair

Thank you

[rancid jay]

i can't believe you're submitting penn so early

your time management is amazing

i could never

[gloomy trellis]

That’s so sweet thank you 😭

My time management is like eh

I just locked tf in for winter break cause i had like 20+ supps and there was no way i was going to tweak the last week

How many schools are you missing

[dull estuary]

Bro this is real, this was not a break at all for me

[gloomy trellis]

It was not😭

[dull estuary]

I’m just holding out until Spring Break fr

[gloomy trellis]

Spring break will be heavenly

[naive timber]

yeah you dont

[dull estuary]

But then Ivy Day is during Spring Break

[rancid jay]

all of them HAHAHhahahha.

i'm taking it day by day

truly

[gloomy trellis]

Oh wait….my break will be ruined

[gloomy trellis]

How many is all……

[dull estuary]

I’m doing 12 apps today and then I’m DONE APPLYING 🥳🥳🥳

[gloomy trellis]

COOOOOKKK

[rancid jay]

11 us schools i think

[dull estuary]

I really hope RD goes well after EA has been rough

[gloomy trellis]

Oh my goodness

Best of luck ml

We got that

[rancid jay]

thank you queen 😭

[gloomy trellis]

Ofc ofc

[rancid jay]

honestly my canadian schools are so much more of a pain

like the supps are not interesting to write..

[gloomy trellis]

I imagine

Wait what are the supps and where are you applying

I wanted to apply to McGill low key but then decided not to

[rancid jay]

well it's supps for ubc's sciences po dual degree + ubc sauder's hku dual degree

oh and uwo (western ontario) ivey business school

mcgill app isn't hard, just expensive

like actually it's really chill

[gloomy trellis]

:O

[rancid jay]

scholarships are hard to get tho if you don't have super super high grades (97 average minimum from grades 10-12) + you have to do a bunch more writing

but if you don't want scholarships just apply bc the app genuinely takes like 20 mins from opening your acc to submitting!

[gloomy trellis]

Damn

What about entrance exams

Cause i did see that they have that

[rancid jay]

wait dawg

[gloomy trellis]

Oh no

Do your schools have entrance exams…..

[rancid jay]

LOL no i don't think they do maybe like placement exams? and like application requirements

[gloomy trellis]

Yea i imagined

[rancid jay]

it's just if you don't take 2 science courses throughout high school you can't do a bs

[gloomy trellis]

Ohhhhh

I mean thats fine

We already do more

[rancid jay]

oh yea then go for it tbh if you wanna

ppl say mcgill is like the stanford of canada LOL

[gloomy trellis]

Interesting

Are the apps going good for you for Canada

And out of country

[rancid jay]

yea!! i got into one school (i live on its campus so i won't say which it is LOL) but other than that one i'm only applying to 2 other schools it's just supps and scholarships that are a little annoying

[rancid jay]

us i feel like i've got a hold on?? maybe????

[gloomy trellis]

I getchu
Congrats on that school!

[gloomy trellis]

Yeah its a bit odd lol

But good

[echo steppe]

any tips for the thank you note essay?

[naive timber]

• tell a story or two
• share a lesson you learned

[echo steppe]

im thinking about it rn since I scrapped princeton for Upenn on my list

I always wanted to apply but I was afraid of applying for too many Ivies

I guess it's good that I've realised princeton prolly isnt for me

with the graded written paper and whatnot

[austere spindle]

just make sure you make it abt yourself and how the person you write abt has changed you through anecdotes and whatnot

[dull estuary]

Officially a Penn applicant 🥳

Also how do I get ACT and AP scores to Penn? Is it through the portal?

[topaz mason]

been seeing bro everywhere

productivity is crazy

[dull estuary]

I’m just turning everything in today lol

I’m so ready to crash after all of this though

[topaz mason]

real 😭

congrats thoo

[vale oasis]

is there an emoji for penn

usually there's like animal mascots and whatnot but quakers is so lame like ???

[austere spindle]

normally ppl just go with ❤️ 💙

[topaz mason]

:oatmeal:

[vale oasis]

scary asf wtf

[keen crest]

yuh

tree goated

no beer keg dartmouth goated actually LMAO

[spring dew]

is GOPENN29 legit

im an intl and applying need based finaid but getting my counselor to agree and approve stuff is a hassle

is it no questions asked or will it be trouble

[scarlet drum]

same question

also, is it 3 or 4 supplementals

i selected penn's school of nursing but im also supposed to fill out the supplemental for college of arts and sciences on the application

[naive timber]

if a2c discord officially publicized it its legit

[bright dagger]

Should we treat the second and third essays both like why us essays? First one mentions community and second one is kinda why major, but they’re phrased like why upenn

[gloomy trellis]

I treated them as such

Like similar to why us

Name dropping stuff but also sort of answering the question

[naive timber]

yes they both are

[jaunty panther]

yeah just address different things ig

[lean quest]

I don’t really have any sort of idea for the problem I should talk about in the third essay for Wharton… The whole reason I want to apply to a business school is to begin learning about business since I’m from a small town and there’s no curriculum for it here, so I don’t really know any business methods that I would use for a real world example

[naive timber]

Wharton prepares its students to make an impact by applying business methods and economic theory to real-world problems, including economic, political, and social issues. Please reflect on a current issue of importance to you and share how you hope a Wharton education would help you to explore it. (150-200 words)

reflect on an issue of importance

[lean quest]

Yeah, I don’t really know a real-world issue…

[naive timber]

bro what

there are like 300 real world issues

climate change

health

AI

access to clean water

voter turnout

plastic reduction

food insecurity

energy transition

advocacy

cybersecurity

just pick one that you particularly identify with

write about why it's important

[lean quest]

Those other ones don’t really coincide with anything else on my application. I didn’t want to do those because they felt too broad

Like everyone else would do those

[naive timber]

what's on your app

if you dont mind sharing

you can be very vague

[lean quest]

Yeah ngl I’m too scared to share lol sorry. I think I’m on a better track now? My only other question is like do I need to use examples of business methods or show that I have some knowledge in the area when addressing my issue because right now I don’t

[naive timber]

bro literally

the deadline is in 2 days

open up chatgpt

paste in what you do, ask "what is an issue that surrounds this topic"

dont steal or copy from chatgpt

just use it as a starting point

you have under 48 hours lmao

[lean quest]

Well tbh I have a list of ideas already I will pick from, but I don’t have any specific knowledge in business to help me elevate them. Like right now my essay is looking like (1) here’s an issue (2) ??? (3) Education at wharton will give me material to help fix it.

[naive timber]

you dont need specific knowledge

its okay

just write what you know

you go to a school to learn

no point applying if you know everything

[lean quest]

I don’t know how to advocate for myself through the essay other than stating a problem and claiming that Wharton will then help me solve it

Like what other details are there to include because my issues are also things that I haven’t taken action for in the past

[naive timber]

yeah exactly

its not asking for what youve done in the past

its asking for what you hope to accomplish

let me check the prompt again

Please reflect on a current issue of importance to you and share how you hope a Wharton education would help you to explore it.

in the nicest way possible i think you're overthinking it a little bit, do some brainstorming, go read other people's essays if you're confused about what they said to get in (but dont get too sucked into that rabbit hole)

[lean quest]

Lol this feels like I just needed someone to grab my shoulders and shake me. I think I have an idea, thank you so much

[naive timber]

hell yeah. you got this, i believe in you

[cloud junco]

Guys does anyone know

which other suplments

I can reuse to be my UPenn ones

[dull estuary]

When do we fill out the Penn outside resource form?

[rancid jay]

does anyone know the arts supplement submission deadline?

can't seem to find it online anywhere

[keen crest]

chat am i cooked i havent started these essays yet

[topaz mason]

u have 2 days lets start em now

easy as ivies go imo

thank u note is rlly fun, i liked community, and why wharton i wrote was chill

[keen crest]

maybe i might start tmrw im trying to finish up brown tonight

[topaz mason]

ok yea

[keen crest]

and i have to do upenn and rice
and then stanford i just have to make the current drafts i have better

[wooden needle]

startt you have 24 hours

basically

[keen crest]

they due on the 5th

so i have 50 hours

[topaz mason]

no yea

wharton was js a "im ethical accept me"

[wooden needle]

mine took so long

loll

except the letter

[sly pebble]

ur counselor doesnt do it for u?

oh

[tender kite]

for this question, are we supposed to talk about things that relate to our major or like other things as well: How will you explore the community at Penn? Consider how Penn will help shape your perspective, and how your experiences and perspective will help shape Penn. (150-200 words)*

[topaz mason]

i js did personal stuff

wrote ab my experiences & a few clubs i'd like to partake in

[austere spindle]

skibidi

[sweet maple]

toilet

[naive timber]

IM FREE

[spring dew]

lets goooo

i wasnt applying to penn because one of my close friends was

but he got deferred

so i wasnt gonna apply at all

but then i said fuck it

i kind of like the red and blue vibes

SO time to start these essays

[naive timber]

my friend got in early im still applying

gonna join them fr

[spring dew]

you shoulddd

i just dont want him to feel like im competing with him

but like hes been preparing for wharton for 2 years now and i decided to apply barely 2 days before deadline so it's not much of a competition

[naive timber]

2 years is crazy

i didnt think about college until october

[spring dew]

lmao

he's passionate

and really good honestly ik he only got deferred because he asked for aid

[echo steppe]

q: does penn have any undergraduate clubs/societies specifically for organizing events

like community-building stuff

[austere spindle]

spec

[echo steppe]

thats exactly what I was looking for, thanks

[echo steppe]

i may have not understood the thank you note prompt

I wrote it narratively, but should I be writing it as a direct address?

[spring dew]

yep all the samples write it that way

[austere spindle]

yeah

[wooden needle]

was he intl? my friend also got deferred

[spring dew]

yepp

[wooden needle]

i don’t see how it would hurt you ? you’ll just be considered for wharton instead of m&t

[lethal trench]

can someone help my unscuff my thank you 😭

[topaz mason]

submitted 🤫🤫

still gotta submit supps

😡😡

[rancid jay]

how to you self-report standardized test scores to upenn when they don't include the common app info? is there somewhere on the portal?

[topaz mason]

you can prolly check if its marked off on the portal when you get it

umm okayyy so i wrote ab a club in my essay but highk it isnt active

ion wanna cange the essay tho 😭

its gonn abe ruined

is this risky cus i wrote ab the same club for their virtual fly in peep

and got in

ohh great idea

tyy

[austere spindle]

what club is it lol

[topaz mason]

um the coffee club (not the wharton one)

some undergrad one

i found last active in 2015..

i js talked about reviving it anyways 😭 alr submitted woo

[austere spindle]

i’m seeing insta posts in 2018 but

yeah i think that club is dead 💀

[topaz mason]

help ok hopefully the revival makes sense

[foggy dove]

im also a deferred intl😭

[mighty anchor]

chat idk how to write this TY letter

my last essay for penn

[spring dew]

wharton?

[foggy dove]

no CAS

[spring dew]

oooh okay

[spring dew]

lowk didnt want to write about teachers and parents

[foggy dove]

could be anyone really even teachers or parents

[spring dew]

yeah they expect that

hopefully they take that as "oh she must thank them often"

i wrote about

three of my friends

idk if thats too bold

i also considered adding in some ✨ but that was really too much

[austere spindle]

just write abt how that person has inspired you to better yourself

[mighty anchor]

\

[austere spindle]

https://www.swithoutm.com

for those of you who want to learn abt penn culture and topical memes hehe

[topaz mason]

i wrote it to my brother

ngl idk but he’s 9 lol so i haven’t thanked him much

[austere spindle]

LOL

[mighty anchor]

wtf

[wooden needle]

wait penn asks you that?

i never saw that when i was doing my penn app

[mighty anchor]

Haven't submitted yet but aint no way this AI checker I used because gramarly help edit just said what I WROTE BY MYSELF WITHOUT ANY HELP FROM AN AI WAS AI T_T, it was in fact such a good sentence that gramarly didn't even have to edit it

"At Upenn, I can also take advantage of PRiML's network to join a research team for machine learning, just like how I worked on a paper that was submitted to the ACM International Conference on the Foundations of Software Engineering (FSE) 2025 last summer. "

[jaunty panther]

ai checkers suck

[mighty anchor]

i used it to make sure my stuff aint turned into sounding like AI junk by gramarly edits

Gramarly does that

it said this sounds off you can change it to this tone

makes it more actively and sometimes it says its now AI

[sly pebble]

doesn’t matter

[mighty anchor]

chat trust gramarly or quillbot

[sly pebble]

they won’t reject u for ai

i had like 80% and got deferred

[mighty anchor]

wtf

[sly pebble]

ai detectors aren’t 100% reliable

they can’t reject u just bc of that

[wooden needle]

I mean if it’s blatantly ai generated then yes they would

[mighty anchor]

I wrote this myself and it sounds so good its now AI like what???????

[sly pebble]

well obviously yeah

[worthy echo]

Bro stop trusting ai generators

Aos know if you use ai or noy

[sly pebble]

but i’m assuming if he chatgpted it he wouldn’t be surprised w a high ai percent

[mighty anchor]

i used gramarly

[worthy echo]

AOs

[mighty anchor]

thats AI

it helps me with grammar edits

• making it sound better since I write stuff like I hope to and they change it to I plan to

[wooden needle]

i used grammarly too for my personal statement

it’s fine

[mighty anchor]

[worthy echo]

Ok but if its your own writing minus the grammar and structure edits grammarly helps you do then its not ai

[mighty anchor]

are you in penn? mind reading my essay

[wooden needle]

im an incoming freshman

sure

[mighty anchor]

yeah

sent to your dms @wooden needle

it might be in your message requests, also do you suggest I put UPENN or UPenn

[wooden needle]

neither

just say Penn

[mighty anchor]

ok

[austere spindle]

you’re fine

[austere spindle]

doesnt matter

Penn is what ppl actually call it but you won’t be dinged if you called it UPenn

[velvet thunder]

hi chat

[open scroll]

chat should i submit a 1400 to upenn 😔

[coral umbra]

Prolly not

[uncut skiff]

hello

if i intend to apply to get a BA in cs at upenn (which i've heard you can do by dual majoring in smth cas + compsci) should i apply to cas and explain or should i apply to seas

well

i guess applying to seas would just give me the bs by default

but how do i explain it

[open scroll]

aw man

[coral umbra]

Wait what’s ur split though

And major

[coral umbra]

Uh no just apply seas

[open scroll]

700/700

[coral umbra]

Yeah no

[keen crest]

are any current upenn students avaiable to read my upenn supps?

ping me if u can, also doing the wharton supp

[uncut skiff]

i was planning on reusing my why major though

i guess upenn i can realistically get the bs while doing interdisciplinary because of their one school whatever

[lethal trench]

yea same mainly the thank you note 😭

[wooden needle]

yes depending on your school’s average and your background!

scores are evaluated within context and you def do not need a 1500+ to get into penn

[open scroll]

not enough people at my school take it for there to be an average 😭

im from canada

[coral umbra]

Damn ur intl too

[open scroll]

mhm 😔

[wooden needle]

r u low-income though?

[open scroll]

nein

[wooden needle]

it’s up to you to submit

[open scroll]

i mean idk what counts as low income but i dont think so lol

[wooden needle]

1400 is a v good score though!!

[open scroll]

thank you!

[wooden needle]

the median sat score for top schools are all so grossly inflated

[open scroll]

its sad since i paid and had to go thru the testing and all but stillmight not be able to submit 😭

[wooden needle]

i don’t think it’d hurt you either way. many of the people in the penn ‘29 gc had the 1300-1400 range and still submitted

but at the end of the day, it’s totally up to you

[open scroll]

i see i see

[jaunty jetty]

1400 is an amazing score

Now mine was shit lol 😂

[open scroll]

thanks 😭

im js scared submitting will make me look unprepared

[spring dew]

I'm having trouble formatting my thank you note can someone tell me what they did 😭

commonapp adds paragraph spacing after enters

so my sign off looks like:
Yours truly

[Name]

[slate gorge]

for the thank you note is it fine if I wrote about the same person I kind of based my common app essay on? Idk if I should change it last minute now to someone else because I kind of feel like theres some overlap

it's kinda cliche anyways cuz it's about my school janitor and I'm sure a bunch of people have tried to pull that off

[austere spindle]

this isn’t a thing

the BAS in cis is in seas

you can double major with cs if you are in cas but its not the same

but in seas you have option to get BSE or BAS in cis

[naive timber]

just remove the enter

[naive timber]

i mean id try to avoid overlap but you are also running on a tight schedule here so submit what is best writing-wise

[spring dew]

no then it's not even in separate lines

[naive timber]

do it like this

[spring dew]

like its either
Cheers, Name.
or
Cheers,

Name.

I can't get the inbetween 😭

[naive timber]

lastline
cheers,
name

[spring dew]

in the preview thing though

[naive timber]

yes

then in the actual thing it should look normal

and not huge spaces

wait

yeah

[spring dew]

how did

what

[naive timber]

bruh lmao

[spring dew]

even though in the textbox it's

[naive timber]

wtf 😭

yeah its fine i wouldnt stress about it tbh

they read way worse formatted essays

[spring dew]

why are our fonts different

wait im gonna

try changing my gdoc font and copy paste again

maybe it's just stupid

[naive timber]

this is the preview

of my submission

that i turned in

[spring dew]

yeah exactly i dont get why ours would be different

[naive timber]

so the font is more boring i think

[spring dew]

ohh i havent submitted yet

[naive timber]

yeah i submitted already

but still the spacing shouldnt be so different

[spring dew]

this one was the preview you can see while editing

[spring dew]

mhm

I hope it doesnt go to them like that

[naive timber]

ah well

itll be fine

[spring dew]

mhm

thank youu

[spring dew]

did anyone here apply for m&t

im doing m&t and wharton but im talking about different goals in both

is that okay do they have access to both essays when they evaluate me for one

[tidal oracle]

can i thank myself [serious]

was in abusive rship with myself

[tidal oracle]

nahh its prob not good idea

[topaz mason]

dont do that

they want u to show gratitutde towards a person

[tidal oracle]

thank you. it'll sound pretty self-indulgent.

writing about a friend for a decade++

[spring dew]

oh what

[topaz mason]

yess thats good :))

[spring dew]

man

i always thought short essays were annoying because i had to cut down on words so much

and now im struggling to reach 400 words for this m&t one

😭

[lean quest]

wait how do i submit letters of recommendation?

help anyone??

[spring dew]

through common app?

or like after

[lean quest]

through common app? I cant find the usual page for some reason..?

[spring dew]

it's there the normal way

says Recommenders and FERPA

[lean quest]

wait im so stupid i mightve done it a while ago and i forgot

embarrassing lmao

[spring dew]

lmao

[coral umbra]

Submitted yippee

well I did it yesterday

but just wanna share

done with college apps we're so up

[karmic schooner]

w

[raw bluff]

Has upenn extended the deadline?
I'm hearing rumours

[spring dew]

I'd cry

I have my physics preboard tomorrow and im still writing essays

so screwed

guys is this normal after using GOPENN29

[raw bluff]

how did u request for waiver tho

[spring dew]

i didnt

oh wait on commonapp?

[raw bluff]

yes

[spring dew]

they asked if i had a code

[raw bluff]

Oh wow

[spring dew]

and they shared this on dc

but i didnt actually contact penn yet

[raw bluff]

Dw. It'll be accepted most likely. Don't bother

[lethal trench]

wait why are some people saying penn's 2nd question is diveristy

[spring dew]

community

honestly its not

directly

diversity

[keen crest]

for the thank you is it aight if i thank an author

or nah

[topaz mason]

i mean idk

i feel like it’s supposed to focus more on relationships

w ppl u acc know

[spring dew]

is it okay if i submit my writing supplement like 20-30 mins late

(i have 15 rn )

[raw bluff]

Is it good if I made a thank you note to Luigi Mangione?

A friend of mine did it

And is now paranoid that he made a mistake

[topaz mason]

why the fuck would u do that

is this a joke

no you should have an actual relationship w them 😭

[raw bluff]

He apparently was reading the books luigi had made on his good reads and found insights and faults in the healthcare system

[topaz mason]

well gang he shouldnt have done allat

its to show gratitude .. to a person u know 😭

[raw bluff]

Mehnnn. Thank God the person got Stanford REA
I hope he won't care much cuz I left his message on read

[wooden needle]

Yes

That’s perfect actually

[cinder shale]

amazing idea omg

[proud harbor]

did anyone get their interview yet or have tips? i have an incoming interview 😥

[civic nymph]

can i submit the commonapp application and the writing supplement at different times or do i have to submit them together? - i'm finished w my commonapp questions & application profile and whatnot, but i'm still finalising essays rn

[topaz mason]

no u can do different times

but js before teh deadline

[civic nymph]

okayy bet

thank you

[spring dew]

SUBMITTEDDDD

and im an hour late

im hoping they wont notice

[jaunty panther]

for the second question

can i kinda go about it like a diversity prompt

like this is how x helped me and i wante dto continue doing x onwards

[warped delta]

this is due at 11;59 MY time zone right

[topaz mason]

yes gang

[south bay]

does anyoen know the process for financial aid for canadians

it says this on the website:

Citizens and permanent residents of Canada must complete Penn's Financial Aid Application for Canadian Citizens and submit copies of both the student’s and parents' Canadian tax returns. Please follow the Checklist for Canadian Citizens on the Student Financial Services website.

But where do u find penn's financial aid app for canadians

[raw bluff]

Please who has UPENN's admissions email address????

[proud harbor]

[email protected]

@raw bluff

[raw bluff]

Thanks!

I just asked for an application extension. I hope they respond

[proud harbor]

I don’t think they’d let one unless it’s something rlly serious—either way good luck!!

[austere spindle]

that’s the dumbest thing ivr ever heard

your friend is cooked

[coral umbra]

Lmfao

[coral ore]

guys how do you edit your penn thank you note

i feel like thats hard to

[keen crest]

any upenn or wharton people tryna review some of my essay slol

[open scroll]

i feel like a general rule of thumb is that if u think the quality of ur letter would be good enough to actually give it to that person irl

[topaz mason]

just for conciseness really

i liked it as is

mainly

very heartfelt & touching

[open scroll]

i feel like one of the letters purpose is to be truly in ur voice (which can diminish w too much editing)

[coral ore]

yeah

do you think its necessary to provide context

but we only have 200 words

so like

additional info or something?

[topaz mason]

i js said (hello brother) kinda like that

not exactly lukethat yk

started off talking ab our relationship

[coral ore]

because my person im adressing them as "Grandpa" but their not really my real grandpa

[mighty anchor]

this lettter essay is gonna kill me

idek who to write it to

yeah

i know but damn do I NOT KNOW WHO I LEARNED FROM

honestly I learned from my parents the most

im about to make up this guy called frank

I cant think of anyone with a very profound impact on me

except my parents who instilled all the hard working values into me at a young age

Asian families do be doing Asian things

in fact im doing it to my siblings too

they both better make it into AIME or else they cooked their own brother will cook them

ill expose every secret they kept hidden from my parents

[topaz mason]

i mean then write it to your parents? or siblings? but don’t write about the work thing

write about any memories

a personal impact on you

[mighty anchor]

I was thinking of writing it to my parents

but

hank-you note to someone you have not yet thanked

to someone you have not yet thanked

[ionic parrot]

wait so the gopenn29 is a legit waiver?

🤑

[jaunty panther]

yeah i got an email w it

[ionic parrot]

but is it for lowincome ppl only?

or everyone

[jaunty panther]

uhh

i mean

im p sure im not low income

💀

[ionic parrot]

did u email them?

or they email u

[jaunty panther]

no>?

i j got it like

months ago

randomly

[ionic parrot]

hmm

how do u even use it

[jaunty panther]

unless i accidentally filled out smth wrong LOL

commonapp

asks if you hvae a waiver

i mean

its like 80 bucks so

[ionic parrot]

i guess it wont hurt to try

[jaunty panther]

if you dont feel comfortable then dont use it ig?

idk

[ionic parrot]

i really dont want to spend more money

😭

[jaunty panther]

lmaoo

true

ive alr spent like

almost 2k

[ionic parrot]

ugh i dont even want to calculate it

my dad is already pissed at me

[tired belfry]

2k 😭 omg

[ionic parrot]

the more waivers the better

[jaunty panther]

😭 oh

i only got like

[tired belfry]

im pre sure anybody can use the gopenn29 code

[jaunty panther]

a national merit waiver

and ig this

#cooked

better hav ebeen worth it

[ionic parrot]

now i regret not taking the NMSQT seriously

[jaunty panther]

no i mean

i got like

one school waived

💀

[ionic parrot]

OH

then whatever

we ball

[jaunty panther]

maybe there wer others but

lowk i didnt research

💀

[ionic parrot]

im too lazy to do the dual degree program essays

CAS here i come

[crimson cloud]

hji

[mighty anchor]

same

[crimson cloud]

has penn said anything abt deadline extension

[pearl socket]

lol i wish

[mighty anchor]

I just applied engineering tho the joint program with technology and economy might be cool

[proud harbor]

i can check the portal

cornell wrote it there

[crimson cloud]

okok pls lmk!

[proud harbor]

Nothing

Srry gang 😭

[velvet thunder]

is it okay if we sign off our thank-you note with a nickname

js wanna make sure

[topaz mason]

that seems finee

[ionic parrot]

ok f it im using gopenn29

worst they can do is make me pay later right

[crimson cloud]

i think my friend used that code

and it went thru

[pearl socket]

yea you just pay later, I dont think they will throw out your whole application 😭

[ionic parrot]

🤭

im just scared they would get mad at me for trying to use a fee waiver that isnt for me

[crimson cloud]

ah lol

r u applying thru common app

[ionic parrot]

yea

[wooden needle]

the only fee waiver that is exclusive to certain ppl is the peep fee waiver

as far as i know

[mighty anchor]

this letter essay is kicking me in the butt

idk who to write about

[slate gorge]

yall think I should start upenn now or just not do it

[mighty anchor]

just dont do it

[slate gorge]

hmm

I have about 7 hours it might be doable but

[mighty anchor]

2 research based essays

1 essay letter that idk who to write to

[ionic parrot]

if u have 7 hours then get cooking

its a why us and why major essay

surely u have somethng to work off with

[topaz mason]

help wdym u cant think of anyone 😭😭

is there anyone you’d like to thank?

[mighty anchor]

i do but it they didn;t inspire me

[slate gorge]

yeah I do, ig I'll just give it a shot lol

[topaz mason]

i didn’t write mine about inspiration but idk

[mighty anchor]

or encourage me to do something very unique or amazing

no one has changed my views very drastically either

[topaz mason]

i just thanked my 9 year old brother and touched on the memories we shared and how much i’ll miss him in college

i don’t think it has to be that deep but idk

[mighty anchor]

the ones that the admission officer

and this other guy recommends is like someone inspired you

[topaz mason]

well if you can’t find that man jist write it to someone

i’m sure you’d rather have it be genuinely heartfelt than formulaic

[mighty anchor]

yeah something is better than nothing

ill just write it to my dad who always supports me even if he isn't with me because he and my mom divorced

[jaunty panther]

thats act a lot of time

penn isnt that long

and its p basic essays except for the letter

but the letter you dont need to edit as much tbh

[keen crest]

is it a bad idea to thank my dad for the tahnk u note

type shi

i alr wrote one for a religious leader

but i was thinking and i would like to do one for my father

just think that it might be too basic

oh well i alr wrote one i guess its fine?

i do mention my dad in the next essay for upenn tho so idk what to do

ping me if its a good idea to rewrite based on this lol

idk so i was wondering

[topaz mason]

i like that

[ionic parrot]

i heard not to write to family members

bc its overdone

its encoruaged to write to someone who isnt expected to have a major impact on u

yet did have an impact

like a convo with a janitor

[keen crest]

ye thats what i figured

[keen crest]

but then id lowkey be making somethin gup tho

i just did my religious leader

i feel genuine about it so i though ti wouldve had he best shot writing about that

[ionic parrot]

thats totally fine

[iron cairn]

@ionic parrot

hi

shawn you're always doing essays the day of 😭

[ionic parrot]

HELP

im a D1 procrastinator

I've already recived an offer from the very prestigous Massachusetts Institue of Procrastination!!

[iron cairn]

😰

@ionic parrot also

people still get in by writing about a family member

its really just.. how you write it

[ionic parrot]

yea i wrote my ssp letter to my parents

[iron cairn]

an unexpected person might intrigue the ao but its not needed

[ionic parrot]

😂

[iron cairn]

lol

i wrote it to my phys teacher

😭

[ionic parrot]

i just wanted to switch things up

[iron cairn]

im writing it to my librarian

[ionic parrot]

my librarian was lowkey weird

she was also my debate club sponser... and i dont have much pleasant memories with her

[iron cairn]

i honestly barely remembered my librarian but reading has been such a big part of my childhood i want to write abt it lol

[iron cairn]

oh ur school librarian?

mines was at a local library

[ionic parrot]

lol my elementary school librarian was MEAN

i almost quit battle of the books bc of her

[jaunty panther]

i wrote my ssp to my 5th grade teacher

im reusing it

lowk i might j be romanticizing memroeis

but whatever 💀

[ionic parrot]

same

but whatever

[jaunty panther]

also i need to submit this soon and im so tired 😭

[ionic parrot]

i have 2 more hours

not in da mood

maybe i should play some roblox real quick

[jaunty panther]

fr hop on

😭

man

life is tought

BUT

its almost over

[ionic parrot]

ah perfect 200 words

ok im almost done

hehhe

[dusty raven]

bro i gotta remove 50 words

how

[ionic parrot]

chatgpt

[keen crest]

all i gotta do is review my stuff now done with stuff for nyu penn stanford

actually no i gotta finish up this wharton supp and thats it

but then i gotta review for like 2 hours for the schools lowkey and then ill submit

light work

[ionic parrot]

fr

[ionic parrot]

why does penn show no test scores?

whatevs

submitted!!

no clue

[keen crest]

someone look at my essays por favorrrr

[untold bloom]

i can look at your ps but not supps

but are you sure you want other applicants reading them

[vast ferry]

no, all common app schools are due at 11:59pm in your local time

[warped delta]

hi chat does anyone know how test optional penn acc is

oh also its ok if in my essays i say Penn right or do i put UPenn

[mighty anchor]

Just turned in my PENN APPS

i didn't do stanford, nvm my mom submitted my horrible stanford essays womp womp

im free and liberated until I apply for all the ones due the 15th and also I gotta do all the portals stuff tmrw while editing my GT esay

then IM FREE

[ionic parrot]

Ur mom submitted them?

[jaunty panther]

😭

wild

[naive timber]

lmao what