MIT (2024-2025)

[haughty token]

Or some other way to prove you wrote it

[civic sail]

ah shi well thats a problem for me

Anyone know if not submitting a portfolio puts you at a disadvantage?

or is it one of those truly optional things

[long spruce]

It is truly optional

[haughty token]

I don’t think it can hurt you

[spare nexus]

how do you answer the unpaved path question...like what exactly is it looking for

[haughty token]

When have you done something besides what was expected of you?

For me I wrote about how I wrote some math papers when I was bored, even though it wasn’t part of a class or anything

Because it wasn’t expected of me

At least that’s my interpretation

[restive dawn]

on the self-reported academic form, do I put apcs as math or enginnering//techinical or other?

[elfin forum]

idk if it is but if it's any consolation I was too lazy to put any portfolios together and I still got in

lmao

[long spruce]

Most people who submit portfolios don't get in, and most people who don't submit portfolios don't get in

[long spruce]

Btw tony are you taking two gap years?

[rocky notch]

this is the realest thing here 💀

[outer mountain]

The question is do most people that get in submit a portfolio

[haughty token]

What percent of admitted students submitted a portfolio, and what is the acceptance rate among those who submit portfolios?

Would be interesting to know

[cursive hazel]

the last time i started talking about data i got called out semi-rightfully for using a non sequitur so take what i say with a grain of salt because im not a data person, but in 2015, 85.9% of all Maker Portfolios last year were submitted by men, and only 14.1% by women, and they still admit men and women relatively 50% and 50% even though women apparently submit far less portfolios

[keen girder]

ayo

[elfin agate]

hi i had a questionabout the stem preparation section

[long spruce]

Yeah, I imagine it heavily depends on how impressive the portfolio is as well

[haughty token]

What percent of applicants are women?

[fallow cliff]

~30% but 50% get admitted

acceptance rate is higher for women

[haughty token]

Why?

[fallow cliff]

to have the same amount of women and men attending

to eliminate gender disparities in stem

[haughty token]

Kinda unfair imo

[fallow cliff]

nah

[cursive hazel]

mit should become an all woman school

[placid prairie]

Wassachusetts institute of tech (where the W stands for women, and is also a W)

[haughty token]

Can you explain why not? Like me having a disadvantage because of something I can’t control?

[glacial lion]

most ppl that apply to mit are academically qualified

so then they can play around and pick and choose to build the class profile they desire to

so its not necessarily unfair

because all factors in the holistic review are subjective except grades and scores (which is debatable)

[fallow cliff]

^ yeah they dont admit you purely on your academics and achievements

[cursive hazel]

^ agree and they also dont admit you just because you're a woman

[glacial lion]

quotas are unfair if they are enforced but in this case, its not a quota because they are choosing female applicants that are qualified, not randomly just to fill a percentage

[haughty token]

I see what y’all are saying but imo a fair admission process generates a class distribution representative of the application pool, as everyone has an equal opportunity that way. That’s just my two cents though

[glacial lion]

maybe but fortunately or unfortunately schools have a different objective each yr with their class profiles

the best you can do is create a unique narrative and stand out

at the end of the day u dont control the decision

the quicker you get comfortable with this idea, the better u will feel i think

[cursive hazel]

fr this is entirely out of your control anyways so

[haughty token]

Real

Kinda a blessing and a curse

[glacial lion]

hey worst case scenario you go to a good school which is less selective, get a 4.0 and then go get an MA from MIT

probably more respected

[haughty token]

Praying lol 🙏

[glacial lion]

like deadass if i dont get in one of my top schools, im thinking of staying in my country, milking all opportunities bc there is less competition and then applying for grad school

[haughty token]

I got into Texas A&M but idk how competitive that would be for a MA at MIT

[glacial lion]

it depends what you make out of it tbh

i think its important to get a perfect gpa, to get some professional experience if you can

and have good letters of rec

idk how large Texas A&M is, but if your classes have 100 students in them that might be hard

like in my city the avg lecture has 300 kids

and professors dont rlly have office hrs

[haughty token]

Do they lecture in like an auditorium?

Largest class size I have seen is probably 100

[glacial lion]

yes

[woven wave]

a college campus thats 70% men and 30% women

is not only unsafe

but very undiverse

[woven wave]

mit grad school acceptance rate is 10%

[haughty token]

This is a good point

[woven wave]

it's not a free masters

lol

[glacial lion]

yeah obv but better than 4%

[woven wave]

is it easier than ug yeah but is it easy no 💀

thats like getting into ucla

as an ug

[haughty token]

Well worth a shot no?

[glacial lion]

also in masters i think u have more time and opportunity to show unique experiences

[woven wave]

i guess

but like dont count on it lmao

if u want a free masters

i think columbias

are cash cows

or is it nyu

one of those schools

[glacial lion]

i dont have the money lol

let me just say that the masters tuition is larger than my family's income

[full lynx]

j get sponsored

[glacial lion]

by who

[full lynx]

oh ur intl

cooked

[glacial lion]

i mean

im a dual us citizen

[full lynx]

work

[woven wave]

js get a phd

and drop out

after 2 years

w a mastesr

i.e u get paid to do ur masters

[glacial lion]

cool

[long spruce]

Assuming grad school MIT is easier to get into haha

[full lynx]

p sure it i

s

[woven wave]

well it is

but

[glacial lion]

statistically it is, and i would argue that practically it is

[haughty token]

Let's not forget it's MIT

[woven wave]

its 4% to 10%

[long spruce]

Depends on the program

[full lynx]

its just mit

not rlly a big deal

[glacial lion]

because you have ways to stand out as an adult that u dont as an HS student

[simple oracle]

if you get into a Ph.D. program, you're finishing that Ph.D. Way more valuable than a masters

[long spruce]

So does everyone else

[glacial lion]

can you do phd without a masters?

[full lynx]

depends

ive only seen RPI let you do that

[woven wave]

yes

[full lynx]

most places prolly not

[woven wave]

no?

the first 2 years of a phd is a masters anyways

its very common to go ug to phd

[full lynx]

no its not lol

[woven wave]

yes it is

[simple oracle]

strictly speaking, you don't need a masters to get a Ph.D. Ph.D.s are research focused

[full lynx]

most people who have a phd get a masters first

what are you on

[woven wave]

u dont need to tho

lmao

[glacial lion]

ngl doesnt sound bad but it takes a lot of time, id rather go out in the field if i can, especially since i want to work in government (yes im applying polisci to mit)

[full lynx]

you said it's common

it isn't

im not saying you cant

im saying it's not common

[simple oracle]

ok stop arguing or provide proof. It's honestly department specific

[full lynx]

lol

[simple oracle]

bio, most people don't get masters, they get Ph.D.s

[glacial lion]

my father got his MD and then went straight to a PhD

[simple oracle]

CS, it depends, some people need the masters, some don't

[long spruce]

Interesting, so apparently eecs grad at MIT is 5.7%

So I will have a slightly higher chance lol

[woven wave]

2% is negligible

[long spruce]

I agree haha

[woven wave]

mit is hard to get into even for grad school

[long spruce]

Yep

[full lynx]

not rlly

[woven wave]

idk why yall act like a 5% increase is some crazy gaming the system!!!

[glacial lion]

sloan school is 14%

which is solid

[simple oracle]

MIT is hard regardless of level

[cursive hazel]

fr its mit

[full lynx]

meh

[glacial lion]

anyway lets get our bachelors first

[woven wave]

you guys know the reason the acceptance rate is higher is bc of self selection

right

[glacial lion]

who knows mb we will be living in mars by then

[woven wave]

eh

we won't but yeah i get the sentiment

living on mars is kind of pointless

bc if our society is so advanced we can terraform mars

js terraform earth

💀

[glacial lion]

weird take ig but if its between dying on earth or escaping to mars id choose death

[full lynx]

ok

[woven wave]

but why would we be dying on earth

if humanity has the power to terraform mars and transport millions of people there

why would we not have the power to fix the problems here

[glacial lion]

perhaps some individuals huge ego and self centered personalities will result in the neglect of our abilities to fix the problems

[woven wave]

if the human race was going to die because of idiot leadership

mars wont save us

[glacial lion]

true

[woven wave]

like to get to mars humanity has to be on a scale to fix earth

[fallow cliff]

if u go to mit undergrad do u need to apply for grad

or is it free admission

[woven wave]

uhhh

idk how the submatriculation works tbh

its a school by school thing iirc

[glacial lion]

https://oge.mit.edu/gpp/advanced-degrees/masters-degree/simultaneous-award-of-bachelors-and-masters-degrees/

[full lynx]

you can start hitting your masters requirements if you get permission from the dept

[long spruce]

Yeah

You can also only get a masters in eecs (without dropping out a PhD) by being an undergrad

Which I thought was interesting

[haughty token]

Can I assume my AO knows what LaTeX is or should I explain it briefly in my essay?

[full lynx]

plalts is back

hello

someone was asking about you

[simple oracle]

Pretty sure grad admissions is separate

[rocky notch]

exactly

college admissions is not fair at all

we can't ever know what'll happen with our application until decision day comes

it not being fair isn't a bad thing per say but it's just what it is

[vivid tulip]

Yeah you still gotta do grad apps

If you're applying for an MIT MEng program specifically though admissions are essentially free unless you manage to completely flunk your undergrad

The MEng (Masters of Engineering) programs are open only to MIT undergrads and are basically continuations of the undergrad degree

Yea

[simple oracle]

I would try to not be so negative. You have to put your best foot forward and navigate your career as best you can regardless. There's a lot of unfair in the world, but only so many that you can actually control

[normal stag]

Hm I think this depends on the definition of fair, which is kinda philosophical. I would argue that fair* means that selections are made purely based off of merit/how well one would fill a given position rather than outside factors that won't influence ability to fill the position well, like race or gender. I don't have access to the data, but MIT's website has claimed that admitted male and female students are of similar caliber. They infer that female applicants are more self-selecting, and thus the difference in acceptance rate is not bias but instead that the female applicants who do not have a realistic shot are more likely to simply not apply. Thus it is fair despite not matching the proportions of the applicant pool.
*fair != equitable, and which is better is a complex philosophical question

[simple oracle]

Hey. Logic in the MIT thread

[haughty token]

Ah so basically males tend to be more optimistic about their chances (even if they're unrealistic)?

[normal stag]

Yeah pretty much

[haughty token]

That makes more sense, thanks for explaining

Sorry guys I'm not the brightest 🙂

[normal stag]

No worries. Ngl rereading my msg it sounds kinda argumentative, so sorry about that. But it yeah it's just a niche fact from an MIT admissions blog

[rocky notch]

I'm trying to not have hope by being all cynical about it so I don't get sad when I get rejected

but I think you're 100% correct that we at least have to try

I didn't think about it like that

[haughty token]

You're good, I didn't take it that way

[woeful coral]

One of my teachers didn’t sumbit a rec letter yet it’s fine if it’s done after right

[haughty token]

Wondering the same thing

[molten mauve]

pretty sure you can submit later

[trim locust]

My uncle went to Oklahoma state for undergrad but went to MIT for grad school so it’s def possible to still end up at MIT!! Patience is key sometimes

[cursive hazel]

NEVERMIND cant apply to mit

[haughty token]

If I'm taking an AP exam at the end of my senior year, should I just leave the score field blank?

[fallow cliff]

yes

[fresh mirage]

hmm, im not sure how much of the variation this accounts for (probably both factor in: "lower caliber" female applicants are less likely to apply in the first place, and MIT is incentivized to admit a higher raw % of women to keep the numbers balanced, even if the pool might be more competitive on average)

however, I do think there's an inherent value in having a representative class-- both due to the experience of students (having even gender numbers prevents it from being a sausage fest, more exposure to issues/struggles of either gender, etc.) and an MIT degree making more of a difference for women/fgli/URMs/etc (sort-of redistributive-y logic)

ultimately though, MIT's selecting for the class that demonstrates the most potential to bring benefit to society/itself/its reputation. like you said fairness isn't equity—fairness incentivizes merit for reward, equity seeks to optimize the social benefit of an admitted class

arguably fairness is a [maybe] necessary consequence of equity? incentivizing merit/hard work develops skills and encourages people to learn more which ultimately does benefit society, even if those people get rejected (though the same could be said about college apps causing stress/hard feelings/hypercompetition -> overall negative for society)

[cursive hazel]

you guys should come study philosophy

[fresh mirage]

i used to lol

[fresh mirage]

tbh id argue that the very concept of "elite institutions" where prestige/money/resources (human, academic, physical) are concentrated for undergraduates might not be beneficial for society

[fallow cliff]

why?

a majority of people that pursue higher education dont aim for graduate school, so wouldnt it be more beneficial to invest resources there?

[fresh mirage]

ultimately it perpetuates a class divide, and having more "equality" among institutions would probably benefit people. of course, to some extent having the "brightest minds" in one or a few places helps concentrate brainpower more effectively, but this applies more to grad school ig.

the bigger things are prestige/reputation, as well as funding (to some extent)—does it make sense from a social standpoint to allocate some small portion of undergrads almost unlimited resources/funding/prestige (thru massive endowments) while a lot more might have a lot less?

[cursive hazel]

well that's why bolstering public universities is so important

[fresh mirage]

i agree!

[cursive hazel]

university (prestige or no prestige, doesnt matter) is the best path for upward social mobility

completely agree with you

[fallow cliff]

whoops, i thought you were arguing against concentrating resources in undergraduate programs within elite institutions. but, still, these institutions attract top talent from around the country and these people are significantly more likely to make positive contributions to society so having a disproportionate amount of resources being poured into them makes sense to some degree

[fresh mirage]

i mean im overall arguing against it, but i do recognize some reasons why it might be beneficial

however

[cursive hazel]

these people are significantly more likely to make positive contributions to society so having a disproportionate amount of resources being poured into them makes sense

i'd say it's having disproportionate amount of resources poured into them that makes people more likely to make positive contributions

not the other way around

[fresh mirage]

this ^

[simple oracle]

Nature isn't fair, neither is society

[fallow cliff]

well the people that attend these elite institutions arent chosen at random

[cursive hazel]

sure, but we can try

[fallow cliff]

theyre already by default more likely to make more positive contributions to society

[fresh mirage]

true, but it's less about fairness and what can create the most benefit for society

[cursive hazel]

that is probably true but i think education from an idealistic perspective should be lifting everybody up

this is a personal opinion though

parm really be typing

[fallow cliff]

1 wpm

[fresh mirage]

sorry i type and delete a lot

[fallow cliff]

i feel u 😭

[simple oracle]

That's a thoughtful thought

[fresh mirage]

thought experiment:
let's say we have a test that's highly correlated with an abstractly-quantified "individual contribution to society" (suspend your disbelief!)*. t

est them before and after a program of undergraduate education -> see what demographic profiles/academics/EC activites/etc correlate with what net increases -> distribute "academic resources" (again, abstractly-quantified) in such a way that the net increase is maximized

* in practice, such "test" wouldn't really be a "test" and it would probably vary from field to field, and would be impossible to actually quantify

[cursive hazel]

yeah ur totally a philosophy guy 😭

[sudden dome]

could you argue that going into IB/PE/HF --> an extremely negative individual contribution to society

[fresh mirage]

honestly

i would consider it maybe

[sudden dome]

therefore the average of t20 schools would be significantly lower

[fresh mirage]

yeah i mean

[haughty token]

Sorry to interrupt but how many of you guys left this blank?

[fresh mirage]

if harvard's producing a bunch of McKinsey consultants that idk meddle with elections, defraud the public, etc. or poltiicans that screw us or whatever, i guess that could possibly be counted as a "negative" to society

[fallow cliff]

i did

[fresh mirage]

isnt this absically commonapp add info

[haughty token]

Maybe? Idk

[fallow cliff]

yes

[fresh mirage]

ironically i feel like a lot of philosophers would [rightfully] hate this way of thinking. Marx, for example, would probably decry me for methodologically reducing human potential/virtue and social benefit...to a single number— paralleling the alienation of use-value into exchange-value

much like how the real uses and benefit of a good (use-value) are alienated away into the socially-necessary labor time needed to create it (exchange-value), according to marx

[haughty token]

Can I for instance put how I've met with a bunch of senators and visited the state capitol to advocate for STEM and support for FTC? Or is that not what this field is intended for? There aren't many other places where I've been able to include this information

[sullen sable]

Thats something I would think fits more in the accomplishment section, not the additional info box

I've generally seen additional info used for explaning burdening circumstances, for example I used it to go more into depth about my disability and its impact on my schooling

[haughty token]

Are you referring to the distinctions section?

[sullen sable]

If thats what MIT calls it yes

[haughty token]

Yeah I'm not sure why they call it that

Maybe I can find something to replace with it

[molten mauve]

the field shouldnt be another essay or another place to brag

most people use it to explain stuff like a death of a loved one passing away that led to a B in a class or 2

[haughty token]

Ah I completely misunderstood then lol

[molten mauve]

i used it to talk about the new law that was passed in my state which led to a lot of changes in my school

and how it caused us to lose 30% of time for AP classes lol

[haughty token]

I mean I can say I moved to the US while I was in 7th grade

That seems more fitting

[molten mauve]

sure yea maybe

heres what i found from a random comment

So one important thing is that colleges DO NOT want you to write another essay in the additional information section (this especially for the 5th question). The additional info section is simply where you explain thing on your application that need more detail like what an award is, why you got a bad grade, etc. It is not a place to showcase your writing ability but just to share information. Thats why there is a separate essay section. Admissions officers are reading so many essays a day that the last thing you want to do is make them read another essay where its not warranted

[haughty token]

So I can describe awards in more detail there?

[molten mauve]

i guess yea

[gusty onyx]

maybe one if you absolutely need to but it's looked down on from what i've seen

[molten mauve]

heres a reddit link that goes into detail https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xf4on4/how_you_should_and_shouldnt_be_using_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

this is for the common app but the same thing applies

[haughty token]

But they require individual scores when submitting your application?

[gusty onyx]

yes, you're not required to send all (choose the best score or the two tests you want to superscore)

[cursive hazel]

all because i dont have a STEM LOR

[outer mountain]

So that’s what’s gonna getting me the rejection 🗿

[cursive hazel]

did you write an essay there

[outer mountain]

Yes a whole 300 word essay deadass

Man

[cursive hazel]

bruh lmao

it should be fine

at least it's not 650 words

[outer mountain]

It’s the limit bruh

[cursive hazel]

for MIT not common app right

[outer mountain]

Yeah

[cursive hazel]

pretty sure the MIT one is very open-ended and you can put anything in there

[haughty token]

Think of it like being on borrowed time, the admissions officer may still read it, but it may reduce the amount of time they spend on the rest of your application (although not significantly)

[cursive hazel]

the reddit post talks about the Common App additional info section

[gusty onyx]

did you use this section for extracurriculars? or smth else

[outer mountain]

I thought it applies in general though

[outer mountain]

Something else, it’s really stupid though given what I just discovered

[cursive hazel]

"If there is significant information that you were not able to include elsewhere in the application, you may include it here."

[gusty onyx]

honestly i don't think it's that big of a deal LOL it's very vague and weirdly worded.

hopefully it's all good

[cursive hazel]

yeah i wouldnt worry about it

[outer mountain]

Hopefully

[haughty token]

Yeah this implies you can put like anything

At least when I read it

[cursive hazel]

yeah i agree

i really wouldnt worry @outer mountain

[chrome quarry]

I don't think there's such a high concentration of "brightest minds" in the first place though.

[outer mountain]

Ok that’s reassuring

[chrome quarry]

I wouldn't say college admissions are particularly meritocratic in the first place

[cursive hazel]

for reference, the common app one is this: "Do you wish to provide details of circumstances or qualifications not reflected in the application?"

which is a lot more

"hey did anything bad happen you want to share"

and the common app one is 650

[outer mountain]

That’s a lot of room

[cursive hazel]

exactly why you shouldnt write a 650 essay here

but for mit is completely fine

[outer mountain]

👍

[fresh mirage]

i thought most colleges needed a STEM and hum LOR?

my physics teacher hasnt opened her lOR link 😭

all she needs to do is reupload from commonapp

[haughty token]

Same story for one of my recommenders

They can still submit after you've submitted your application though, right?

[cursive hazel]

this better not cook me

usually it's two diff subjects

[gusty onyx]

wait where are you applying?

[cursive hazel]

so like english and social science

[gusty onyx]

actually ur prob good

most top schools just say 2 subjects like u said

[fresh mirage]

yeah

[haughty token]

Ok good

[cursive hazel]

i was about to crash out

[fresh mirage]

sorry i didn’t mean to stress anyone out

[cursive hazel]

nah it's okay i probably shouldve checked anyways

[fresh mirage]

ik mit and caltech want one

and most colleges prefer both stem and humanities

[cursive hazel]

rip

[fresh mirage]

but if both r hum it’s fine

[cursive hazel]

im applying for only hum so hopefully they take mercy

[fresh mirage]

ru applying for a stem field

[cursive hazel]

idk why im in this thread even

[fresh mirage]

nvm

[cursive hazel]

nope

[fresh mirage]

wait so the only thing for u is course 24

and polisci

and maybe something else i’m forgetting

[trim locust]

Is it fine that both my lors are from stem teachers

[cursive hazel]

they have philosophy which is my major

[fresh mirage]

dude mits supps are so easy ngl

[cursive hazel]

but i dont have the stem rec so im ineligible

[fresh mirage]

yeah course 24 is ling phil

[cursive hazel]

OH right

yeah im phil and polisci so would be perfect but oh well

[haughty token]

Uh is it bad if my responses to the maker portfolio prompts are on average 800 characters?

The max is 900

[cursive hazel]

no

thats completely fine

[haughty token]

Ok I was a little paranoid

Thanks

[cursive hazel]

i believe in you

[elfin forum]

no? Why would I do that

[elfin forum]

I'm in the admits server and most people there either didn't submit anything or only submitted an art portfolio

[long spruce]

What was the '31 for? That's what was confusing me haha

[simple oracle]

I see you're a fan of the good place

[crude flare]

Should I include this video in the additional information section

[normal stag]

Utilitarianism?

[fresh mirage]

on my to-watch list

[rocky notch]

while I believe it does benefit society in the end, I don't like how merit/hard work is incentivized specifically when talking about college admissions, since admissions (especially at the top level) is anything but fair

students -- and their parents -- hear this myth that if they work hard enough and do enough "stuff" then they'll be able to get into any college they want, and that's just not true. idk if I'd call fairness a consequence of equity (maybe in the long run), instead I think that they need to go hand in hand -- all the female applicants admitted to MIT are still just as qualified, so there needs to be some merit while still understanding that there need to be some sacrifices on fairness in order to create the best undergraduate class

[elfin forum]

huh my profile says '29

[long spruce]

Am I going crazy 😭

Could've sworn before it said MIT '29 ('31)

[elfin forum]

nope

my parents would have me waterboarded if I told them I was taking a gap year

let alone two

[long spruce]

Same lmao

[placid prairie]

I think that was someone else no?

I saw it too but I forgot who’s profile

Yeah it’s another person

Journeyman

[long spruce]

Oh mb

[remote haven]

for the
What do you do for fun?
We know you lead a busy life, full of activities, many of which are required of you. Tell us about something you do simply for the pleasure of it.
Can it be one of the ecs listed

or should i remove that ec and put it on writing

[simple oracle]

I would keep it listed and write about it

[remote haven]

alright thanks

[haughty token]

Is this a bad idea? I really want to include all the awards our FTC team won but don't know if this is the right way to do it. Would it be better to just list one of them?

[indigo gazelle]

this works

[haughty token]

Ok cool, thanks

[crude flare]

Hmm

I mean, why not list them as separate awards?

[haughty token]

There is a limit of 5 and I have the other slots filled

[crude flare]

Ohh, I see

Yeah, in that case list them together
(and good luck with your application!!)

[haughty token]

Thank you!!

[crude flare]

I would still shorten it a bit, but it's up to you - like, if you feel "(1x state, 2x regionals)" is just as good as "(once at state, twice at regionals)", then that's probably better

[haughty token]

Yeah I think that's better

[crude flare]

You could also make that part lowercase, to distinguish it from the awards themselves - instead of "Example Award (Once at State)", you could do "Example Award (once at state)"

(These are all just suggestions, so go with whatever feels best to you!)

[haughty token]

Can I submit the maker portfolio after my application?

[severe bear]

i think

[keen girder]

are portfolios due 1/6 11:59 or 1/5 11:59

[remote haven]

couldnt the prompts be 235 words

whats the difference between
activities and summer activities?

[cursive hazel]

activities are year-round summer activities are in the summer

[remote haven]

why not just group them all into activities

[onyx jacinth]

i think they want to know what you do when you're not under the academic pressure of school and all that

which is why they say you can put stuff like reading and travel and etc.

[remote haven]

I think alot of mine are during the school year

except for like one job

can i say they extended into the school year if i started them during the break

well yeah ig they said reading and travelling, but some of these extend too

6 is the limit?

im not gonna be tracking when i read and when i stopped

[indigo gazelle]

bro is 30 off from rgb

mit stem where

lmaooo mandela effect maybe 😭

[light night]

lads

how did you lot answer While some reach their goals following well-trodden paths, others blaze their own trails achieving the unexpected. In what ways have you done something different than what was expected in your educational journey?

[uneven magnet]

how are my mit girlies doing

[haughty token]

I described a time I did something outside of school that was educational related. They just want to see initiative and curiosity outside what is "expected" of you in the school curriculum

[sudden dome]

bench

just built diff automatically think in plates

[stray plume]

:3

I can barely do 65 lmao

[long spruce]

21% accepted is pretty good

Makes sense for a2c

I may not be able to fight a gym-goer, but I can outrun them before they lay a finger on me

[fossil perch]

oooo same!!

yayyy

[civic sail]

probably less, accepted people are more likely to vote than rejected/deferred

[long spruce]

Yeah that's fair

Still significantly above the average which is what I mean

[trim locust]

lol A2C is a microecosystem at this point

[low pollen]

how bad is the portal

i havn't started filling in any info 😭

[trim locust]

quite a bit

u need to add classes, schools, test scores

and the supplementals

• recommendations

[low pollen]

so like

ucs

[trim locust]

yea

all over again

[low pollen]

wait recommendations

[trim locust]

💀

[low pollen]

holy fuck

[trim locust]

yes

2 teacher recs and counselor

• any additional

[gusty onyx]

yeah teachers have to upload it there separately 😭

[low pollen]

i doubt that shits working with naviance

bruhhh

BRO I GET BACK TO SCHOOL THE 6TH

[trim locust]

yea bro this is why u ask before winter break

ur teachers are probably wathcing nyc new years 😭

[low pollen]

i asked end of school last year 😭

[trim locust]

oh then L teachers then

[low pollen]

i jsut thought since they did the other schools through naviance

forgot abt the stupid ass other portal

[trim locust]

naviance is such a pain in the ass

[gusty onyx]

We prefer that students use our MIT application portal detailed in our Letters of recommendation page; however, we also accept electronic documents submitted through Naviance, SCOIR, or other methods.

it says they do https://mitadmissions.org/help/faq/page/12/#:~:text=We prefer that students use,%2C SCOIR%2C or other methods.

okay so ur good

they take naviance

[low pollen]

lets go

no clue how they do that saying i havn't started my account yet but

prompts kinda weird too

we all know i aint getting in tbh

[trim locust]

never know till u try

theres still 5 days

[low pollen]

dw ill be trying lmao

[gusty onyx]

a2c reddit honestly fried my expectations 💀

[low pollen]

j crazy how my friend who had a coach likely letter didn't get in

are they good or bad

[gusty onyx]

it's just that a2c has a huge population skew since people on the reddit & server are trying harder than the average person to get into colleges

[low pollen]

yea yea ik

[low pollen]

ah

idk i forget how i even ended up here ngl

[full lynx]

??

the crew guy told me to talk to him after i got in

😭

thanks plalts

[trim locust]

Tell us more about why this field of study at MIT appeals to you.*

Is this a why us essay as well?

[cursive hazel]

its more of a why major

[trim locust]

yea i included why i want to pursue my major (related to my family's medical issues) and then connected a research institue I want to be part of

[fallen pond]

Oh Shawn

[trim locust]

oh vineet

what are u doing here

https://tenor.com/view/rabbit-cute-gif-14063524

[fallen pond]

I smelled you Shawn

Cutie

[trim locust]

oh vineet

such a gentleman

[wicked pond]

As long as they get them in a reasonable time you'll be fine

One of my teachers turned in hers late and It was fine

Three days

When is the rd deadline?

[wicked pond]

Oh yeah you're good 👍

[woeful coral]

I dont wanna apply to MIT anymore 😭 740 MATH for sat is like ggs for MIT

[woeful coral]

anyone mind checking my prompts?

[opaque magnet]

Is it fine if my LORs are goign to be turned in around 4 days after the Jan 6 deadline?

[leaden hamlet]

RD deadline is Jan 6

[keen girder]

it's all good lmao

i asked my english teacher 2 times before break and he forgor

i should've given him dates oops

teachers get back to school on 1/6 :trust:

minor inaccuracy

[trim locust]

i have 770 on my math and im still worried its not enough for mit 💀

[woeful coral]

That’s like 770?

[fresh mirage]

my dumbass 9th grade self put “report to MIT” on every ap test i did that year lmao. and i ended up getting a 4 on csp

at least i got a 5 on BC and human geography tho

[glacial lion]

i got a 780 in math are we gonna pass the first stage? 🗣️

[woeful coral]

Lmfao I take AP calc this year 💀

That’s the highest math our school has

[cursive hazel]

LMAO

me when i realized georgetown is jan 10

yayyyayyayayy

you got thissss

[rose halo]

hi guys!
im an intl students. how am i supposed to fill this thingy? i have taken (and taking) all these classes for al hs years

[spare nexus]

damn I should not have put off this maker portfolio

[rocky notch]

if you took the class already, select "taken" and put the grade that you took it in

if you're taking it this school year, select "in progress" and leave it as 12th

[plain heart]

Here's what MIT Admissions told me after one of my teachers sent in their rec letter like 10 days before ea results:

Thank you for reaching out and for keeping us updated. We want to reassure you that a late recommendation letter submission will not negatively affect your application. We understand that recommenders may sometimes need extra time, and we do not penalize applicants for such delays.

Rest assured, your application is still in the review process, and we take all materials into consideration, even if they arrive after the initial deadlines.

you'll be fine lol :)

[elfin agate]

Is it worth it to report aime score of 7 to MIT?

[gusty onyx]

wait mit wants all sat scores?

i thought they had score choice so you choose which scoers you want to send

@severe bear ^^ i think this answers ur question

that's for superscore

Superscore
If you take the same test multiple times, we will consider the highest score achieved in each section. We do this in order to consider all applicants in their best light.

Students should report official full sittings (including future sittings) of the SAT, ACT, or English proficiency exams on the application. For each examination, required subscores are indicated with an asterisk. They should not list practice results or enter a superscore as a single sitting. Students should self-report scores from all exams taken, and MIT will consider the super-score in our review process.

idk because that other person said something different

im not sure either 😭

[severe bear]

@stark fox sorry for ping, but do you know if MIT wants every SAT score regardless of whether we superscored or not?

im coming from this

[indigo gazelle]

is there any point filling this up

in the SAT score section

[full lynx]

i wouldnt trust this person on anything mit app related ^

idk if they even passed the academic screener.

sm ppl just arent prepared 😢

bro ive been sick for A WEEK

I HATE TUMMY ACHES !!!

GRRRR

?????????????

TUMMY ACHES ARE REAL SICKNESS

if yu send that gif agin

im gonna make u regret it

👿

WAIT

WRONG GIF

FGUCK

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586867452407840770/1301209699005501440/mh.gif

i send smth bad

no

[peak jacinth]

most sane MIT conversation

erm. wrong
also 4 days 😭 there's absolutely no way
i'd need to do so much stuff...

i have other things to lock in on

[full lynx]

arch you got into indiana institute of technology?

oh rip

[peak jacinth]

no i got into canadian institute of technology

[full lynx]

@shy girder plalts what are three words to describe me

I have 3.5 hours to do my cornell app

GIVE ME 3 WORDS

PLEASE

oh

[peak jacinth]

!rule 1

[knotty geyser]

#📜-rules

​Rule 1: Be Nice

​Please respect all members of the community. Disruptive, aggressive, disrespectful, creepy, or otherwise obnoxious behavior is prohibited. Hate speech and slurs within the community, whether via server messages or profiles, are absolutely not tolerated.

[peak jacinth]

plort...

[full lynx]

Exactly

Ban paltls

@mods

Like from star wars ?

Wow!

Thanks

I'll use those 3

Idk wat it means

[peak jacinth]

clear, opinionated, and genuine ✨

[full lynx]

But it sounds cool

[peak jacinth]

oh...

[full lynx]

I'll use coquette it sounds like crosant

[peak jacinth]

god i love fransay

[full lynx]

Motivated confident and authentic r the 3 I have

I'll use coquette for the 3 words to describe cornell

[gusty onyx]

does it count for credit

because if so, you will probably need a separate transcript from the university for that

if the summer course is on your hs transcript, it shouldnt be a problem

[stark fox]

they want all of your sats no matter what

💀

https://mitadmissions.org/apply/firstyear/tests-scores/

Students should self-report scores from all exams taken
tho this is under the superscore subheading

[fallow cliff]

No they don’t (but if you’re confident with ur statement then ur prolly right cuz u go there 😭)

But I’ve heard from other people, also admitted, that you don’t need to send them all

Just don’t report super scores as one test

[wicked pond]

I got in and I submitted 4/5 act test and my document page is a mess 😭

[stark fox]

honestly it's probably fine to only submit one

[stark fox]

ohhh fair

damn i could've not submitted my 1530 then

hmmm the admissions thing led me to believe they wanted everything but it seems like it probably fine to only submit one

[wicked pond]

No bc I didn't want to submit my 28 act I had a freshman I would've been cooked 💀

I had like a 20 math 💀

[stark fox]

you took act as a freshman? insane

wait why

bro what lmao

[cursive hazel]

you can delete sat scores

sat will perma delete scores that you want removed from the record

[stark fox]

actually my bad, only submit the ones you need for super scoring

[wicked pond]

I took is a total of 5 times. Once freshman and then four times junior year 😭

[stark fox]

damn

y'all crazy

i took the sat once in junior year for the school day one

and then i retook cuz why not

and that was it for me

[wicked pond]

But I had to lock in act bc my sat was a 1340... 🤩

[fallow cliff]

I just got an email for my mit interview 🤬🤬🤬

Oh no

[stark fox]

wwww interview good

[wicked pond]

The sat is harder than the act I swear

[stark fox]

don't throw

my mom didn't want me to retake but i insisted

wtf score did you have sophomore year

[cursive hazel]

crazy

[fallow cliff]

I retook the SAT to try to get an 800 math from a 790 😭(I did worse)

[stark fox]

these damn cracked ah mit students

[wicked pond]

😭

[stark fox]

LMAO

"ur throwing buddy"

plort 1600 goat

digital sat is scary

i never took digital

[cursive hazel]

"things worked out ig" says the 1600

[stark fox]

1600 goated

[wicked pond]

I took the last paper test we offered that's why we stuck with act here

[stark fox]

for real

i never took any digital

[cursive hazel]

digital mid

[stark fox]

oh lol

plort 1600 goat fr

im just glad sat was such a painless test

like i studied a month for calc bc

for sat i took without studying, then i did a practice test and some practice questions, then retook

and then i was done

so easy and nice

[wicked pond]

Bro am I gonna get the book for getting a b in the only two classes I have 😭

[stark fox]

😭

i mean mit won't care

[wicked pond]

Ap lit and ap calc got hard out of nowhere for a sec 💀

Optimization was not it

[stark fox]

mit like never rescinds

[stark fox]

optimization?

[wicked pond]

That sounds crazy hard

[stark fox]

prob

i mean get As for ur ego

but like

[wicked pond]

yes? 😭

[stark fox]

mit doesn't really rescind much afaik

even the arrested kids didn't get rescinded

[stark fox]

oH for bc

bro i threw both physics exams

[wicked pond]

I'm praying I just submit semester grades since both are an A but my individual quarter grades are a, b

[stark fox]

i was burnt out so bad and i got 5s on both practice exams so i didn't study at all for ap physics c exams

and then i went and got 4s

[wicked pond]

This but minecraft made it make sense to me

[stark fox]

and then the following week i had like a 2 day long anxiety attack

[stark fox]

i think i was rapidly burning up my mental health or something

[wicked pond]

Please no 🙏

[stark fox]

😭 says plort the mit admit

[peak jacinth]

hiii guys (:

[stark fox]

HI

[wicked pond]

That's actually why I applied ea bc I was literally failing calc bc at the time 💀

[stark fox]

get them Bs up

oh

wait

is the semester over

[peak jacinth]

moment

[stark fox]

big smart

fix ur grade

i believe in u

ur goated

rotational is fun

just don't be

me

don't throw

i took physics c in junior year so it's been so long

[peak jacinth]

im sorry for your loss
I applied ea so I only have to submit last semesters grades

[wicked pond]

Clutched it up to a b but I got to lock tf in lol. I think I submit semester grades tho so should just look like As

[stark fox]

if i wanna ase i gotta grind

hubris

[peak jacinth]

no no its not a flex

i have a final left

and i need to plead and pray to get my grades up

physics is NOT looking good rn

[stark fox]

i skipped physics 1 cuz i was like "I WILL TAKE PHYSICS C AS MY FIRST PHSYICS CLASS" and then i did fine in the class and dropped 4s :/

[peak jacinth]

ase?

ahhh ic

im not gonna be able to test out of anything

[stark fox]

8.01, 8.02 (can i do two physics ases?), 6.100 or whatever it's called, and the chem and bio ones maybe?

so everything if possible...

[peak jacinth]

no no they do

i just dont know enough in any class to test out

[stark fox]

i'll try for everything but probably fail

[peak jacinth]

all their first classes are more material than ive ever seen before

[stark fox]

why

?

abc

?

why not

can take a diff class first sem

oh

ur med

silly med schooler

[wicked pond]

You're going to med school?

[stark fox]

oh

worth it for me to try to ase everything

[peak jacinth]

actually depending on how much they cover in a, b, or c i might be able to place out of a

[stark fox]

im gonna fail 8.01, 8.02, chem, and bio

[stark fox]

easily

i think i pass 6.100 tho

[wicked pond]

Applying rd 🤨 didn't you already get in

Ohhhhh

[stark fox]

im so cooked then

[wicked pond]

Wait that's so real

[stark fox]

i didn't even do ap bio in hs

i've got negative bio knowledge

why the hell did i pick the school that grade deflates instead of the school that grade inflates

will try

if they offered that i would've

but o transferred schools between freshman and sophomore

[wicked pond]

Cracked 😭

[peak jacinth]

oh i think if i do well on calc bc i'll totally be able to place out of 1a

[stark fox]

technically i transferred high schools 4 times

rare emi lore

crake

[fallow cliff]

Isn’t the first semester pass/fail?

[wicked pond]

Emi should I try to get a cook for yourself dorm? Or are the meals okay at mit?

[stark fox]

yes im still cooked

[stark fox]

it's fine, you'll see at cpw

i want random hall for queer

[peak jacinth]

yeah its so bad genuinely
apparently math 1a is basically an analysis course under the disguise of a calc class since you're expected to have taken it already

[wicked pond]

This is what I heard but idk

[peak jacinth]

ikr

[stark fox]

but i only actually was at 2 schools for a significant amount of time

[fallow cliff]

Emi are u going to be a freshman this fall?

[wicked pond]

Bro u rochester must have the worst food bc even my interview went on a 5 min rant about how bad it is and how she left campus house bc the food 💀💀💀

[stark fox]

yep

[wicked pond]

They gave me a scholarship as a junior tho so I wanted to apply

[stark fox]

but like. i had more educational institutions than fit on common app 💀

[stark fox]

did you see minehut crash today

im ranking ec first and random second

[wicked pond]

The food or the school? I actually applied there for cybersecurity

[fallow cliff]

Yeah I heard abt it but I’m not bothered by it since I’m not running any servers rn

[stark fox]

i forgot you're cybersecurity

[stark fox]

bro what happened

[fallow cliff]

Plus we don’t run on minehut 😛

External tunnels don’t have issues usually

[stark fox]

no like why crash

[wicked pond]

Yesss I didn't buy mit merchandise beforehand bc if got rejected I'd crash out that's embarrassing

[fallow cliff]

Servers couldn’t turn on

[stark fox]

supposedly externals died?

[fallow cliff]

Oh fr?

I did not know abt that

I just heard there were issues starting servers and that usually doesn’t effect the tunnels

[wicked pond]

I just need to get out of louisiana pleaseeee 🙏

I'll take rochester any day

I don't lol but it's still better than louisiana

Like bro I don't feel safe here 😭

[peak jacinth]

fwiw i've been reading this chat for awhile and just now realized this is the MIT megathread and not genchat
im so cooked. there's no hope actually

[wicked pond]

LOL

[stark fox]

wait what kind of cybersecurity

[peak jacinth]

i fear i shall withdraw my admission immediately

(satire)

[severe bear]

hm okay 🙏

im just scared that we'll get penalized or smth for not submitting all

but seeing that the info around this isn't super clear i assume it'll be fine

[wicked pond]

I want to get into threat intelligence but I ended up doing training for network specialist stuff bc I was doing the army national gaurd for a sec

[full lynx]

you're in the NG?

[wicked pond]

You could always email the admissions office and ask for a specific answer of you want

[wicked pond]

Not anymore lol

[full lynx]

you joined super early

did you do the split between summers going to bct n ait?

[severe bear]

yeah true, i asked abt something related but the answer i got was pretty generic

ill prob call

[wicked pond]

Sounds About right

[wicked pond]

No lol I turned 17 too late

But it was a whole thing. I got a 99 on my asvab but then failed height and weight lmaooooo

[full lynx]

oh rip

[wicked pond]

Then had to go again just to get stopped bc I needed a waiver for something

[full lynx]

at meps?

[wicked pond]

Like it was literally torture

[wicked pond]

Yep

[full lynx]

that sucks

what did u need waived?

[fresh mirage]

lmao i was secheduled to take the asvab but i slept in that morning lol

its not lke im eligible for anything tho 💀

[full lynx]

i only took the picat at a navy recruiters office but im not tryna enlist so

[wicked pond]

I had some mental health stuff they couldn't ignore

[full lynx]

oh rip

army is pretty good at covering stuff up so if they say no then it really is no LOL

[wicked pond]

I took the picat then verified

[full lynx]

im going thru the dodmerb waiver process which is like meps but for officers

and its very annoying

luckily no mental health DQs which r pretty tuff to get waived

[fresh mirage]

rez did u apply west point

[full lynx]

nah

[wicked pond]

Scars and report of hospitalizations or something. I lied to the meps lady about nit having ever been hospitalized but they could see the scars so I was kinda cooked

[full lynx]

i dont fw the academies

[stark fox]

oh cool

[full lynx]

yeah always lie LOL

they prolly would have checked with GENESIS so if it was on record u'd have been cooked

[stark fox]

oh ;-;

wait they care about scars?

[fresh mirage]

my prestige chasing hb spent two months obsessing over west point because he thought he was cooked for t20s.... bro is 5'4 😭

[full lynx]

if they're suspicious about mental health stuff and you say no

but you have scars

its not helping your point

so

[fresh mirage]

yeah

[wicked pond]

Idk they wanted me to go to see a specialist after I submitted doctor letter and 3 letters.of rec but when I first said I didn't want to do it anymore they automatically waived it????

[stark fox]

99 is insane no?

[full lynx]

LMAO

[full lynx]

most ppl on a2c can get 93-99 tbh

[stark fox]

wait why is army national guard lucrative

[full lynx]

the PICAT is really easy LMFAO

[wicked pond]

sh scars yeah and pretty much any other scars even if it was from falling off a bike when you were six lol its crazy

[full lynx]

LMAO

they r in a recruiting crisis but the merdical stuff is black and white

[fresh mirage]

surprisingly im within west point height and weight range

[full lynx]

since its from congress

[wicked pond]

That 20k bonus would've been nice tho 🤩

[full lynx]

waivers are branch specific

[stark fox]

you think too highly of a2cers

[full lynx]

no im telling u bro

[fresh mirage]

but im ineligible for the military/service academies anyway

[full lynx]

its REALLY easy lol

the hardest part is like the weirdest fucking words they ask you the definition of

its just a guessing game at that point

[fresh mirage]

the ASVAB's g-factor is pretty high too

[full lynx]

like i have NEVER seen that word in my entire fucking life

[stark fox]

ah okey so im doubly fucked if i ever wanted to go into the military

[wicked pond]

It was light work and I got a 99 first try but it's bc of all the act studying

[full lynx]

ye fr

[stark fox]

im defo getting banned for 4 years anyways

[stark fox]

is act hard?

[wicked pond]

I meeeeeaaaan if you score hight on your asvab they will fight tooth and nail to get you in

[stark fox]

lol

[full lynx]

yea

the army loves waiving stuff

the navy is pretty strict on eye shit

[wicked pond]

Not once you get used to the test. I'm dyslexic so the reading is tough

[full lynx]

air force does not like waiving stuff

[stark fox]

i don't really want to be in mil as a transfem

[full lynx]

emi you're trans?

i didnt know that

[stark fox]

yeah lol

im semi open about it

[full lynx]

ye trump is banning transgender people from the military again so

if you joined you'd have gotten separated

[wicked pond]

Omg one of us????

Emi yippieeee

[stark fox]

i think most of the hsmse people don't know tho

even the ones i met in person somehow?

[wicked pond]

I was supposed to enlisted under fem but after the election I got out lol

[full lynx]

thats wild

[stark fox]

wait you're trans?

[wicked pond]

Ftm yeah

[stark fox]

me when i pass despite no voice training

[fresh mirage]

im a noncitizen so i cant join the military, but i briefly entertained the idea to expedite the citizenship process lol

[stark fox]

my transceiver worked then hell yeah

[full lynx]

i think if you have a green card they'll give you citizenship with 1 year of service

[fresh mirage]

yeah

i dont have a greencard yet LMAO...15 years and waiting

[stark fox]

i thought you might be trans jamie no offense lol

[full lynx]

i think they should open to illegals but its like a battle pass

[stark fox]

because pfp and username

[full lynx]

2 years for green card

[stark fox]

NO WAY

[full lynx]

then 1 year for citizenship

like u rank up n shit?

type

[wicked pond]

Recruiters are crazy. He told me he got a trans woman in during the first ban so I'd be okay and I was like no????

[fresh mirage]

they used to have a program like that but then it got shut down and fucked over existing recruits

[full lynx]

LMAO

[stark fox]

LMAO

[full lynx]

bro the incentives for numbers are INSANE they make or break careers

[wicked pond]

Lmaoooo what about it?

[fresh mirage]

also i have le grass habit so

[full lynx]

lwk i dont blame him 🙏

[stark fox]

wait so what's the point of going mil

[fresh mirage]

no federal job for me 🙏

[stark fox]

🤷‍♀️

[full lynx]

that sucks

[stark fox]

don't i have transfem vibes?

[full lynx]

tbh if u serve ur entire contract in the military n ur illegal u should get citizenship

i feel like thats a very valid trade

imo

[fresh mirage]

def

[stark fox]

for sure

[stark fox]

@full lynx

like why do it

[full lynx]

oh me?

[fresh mirage]

for the lkove of the game

lmao

[full lynx]

erm

ye

[stark fox]

yeah

[full lynx]

its fun

[stark fox]

you or jamie

[stark fox]

fair enough

[full lynx]

ye

plus i need the barracks bunnies 🙏

[stark fox]

is the rate of assault and stuff as bad as i hear it is

[wicked pond]

Is there like names that every transfem go through. Like for us it's names like Noah, Kai, etc

[full lynx]

ye

[stark fox]

💀

[full lynx]

definitely

its prolly worse

[stark fox]

YES?

[full lynx]

they r good at covering stuff up

[fresh mirage]

its way worse than you think 💀

[stark fox]

there's like a million luna and lucy and stuff

[stark fox]

oh

[full lynx]

do not ask about what happens at fort bragg 🙏

both new orleans and las vegas soldiers were from bragg bruh

bragg is literally the hood of the army

[stark fox]

oh good i will keep that in mind if i ever think about going mil

[fresh mirage]

ts gotta be an mkultra operation lol

[stark fox]

is mil safe for (trans) women?

[wicked pond]

National gaurd comes and helps us during hurricanes. I wanted to give back in the same way bc it means a lot

[stark fox]

oh wait that's super cool

[full lynx]

no

[wicked pond]

But now I'm moving so ig not

[stark fox]

oh good

[full lynx]

you wont like it and people who you serve with wont like you

i cant recommend

[fresh mirage]

yeah

[stark fox]

so i should not go mil good to know

[fresh mirage]

the military naturally selects for a certain type of person

[wicked pond]

Oh there's a luna in the mit server lol

[full lynx]

yah its not policy but if u dont follow DADT then nobody is gonna respect you

[stark fox]

yeah and she's trans

[full lynx]

jamie u got into mit

[stark fox]

im not outing its in her linked pronouns.page

[stark fox]

how do trans people follow DADT unless you pass super well

[fresh mirage]

a disproportionate amount of yall are in linguistics spaces so i pick up the hints pretty quick 😭

[full lynx]

im talking for like gays n stuff

[stark fox]

😭 crazy

[full lynx]

if ur trans its cooked

[wicked pond]

Yeah there are sa resource signs everywhere but still when you talk to many service members they've experienced some kind of sexually misconduct.

[stark fox]

oh damn

bad for them too

[full lynx]

like bro

[wicked pond]

Yes 👍

[stark fox]

oh good so i should probably never go mil

[full lynx]

there was a delta colonel that did some vile shit

[stark fox]

wait what

[fresh mirage]

there's also the prison-type dynamic for ppl who rnt out yet

i think

[stark fox]

wdym

[fresh mirage]

like how gays/trans ppl are treated in men's prisons (idk about womens prisons enough)

[wicked pond]

Really just didn't sound like a good time, but at least it was only gonna be one weekend a month for me

[full lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqrCxsvlsCg

[stark fox]

oh.

[full lynx]

damn good stuff

[fresh mirage]

yeah its Not good stuff

unintentional parallelism

[stark fox]

oh right i can't go to prison either

is v coding real

[wicked pond]

Also I couldn't apply for any military scholarships because I could potentially get it revoked and kicked out of college once I came out. Not fun stuff

[fresh mirage]

anyway i have other...thoughts about the military that would probably prevent me from serving lol

[stark fox]

jeez bro

that's

yikes

[fresh mirage]

even after service?

[full lynx]

like rotc right

[fresh mirage]

like what if a vet has ptsd, do they js lose their scholly

or not a "vet" but like someone who passed thru rotc

[full lynx]

no hes talking abt scholarships not bonuses

gi bill is different

[fresh mirage]

yh i got that

[wicked pond]

I'm talking about the ones you do for rotc during college that locks you in for an extra 8 years after college

[full lynx]

ye

[fresh mirage]

ohhh

[full lynx]

type shit

[wicked pond]

Yeah

[full lynx]

i b on that 🙏

[fresh mirage]

so the scholly is dependent on u serving after college

[full lynx]

ye

sophomore year you're locked in

[fresh mirage]

i know france's best engineering school has the same thing

L'X

[full lynx]

ecole

YE

YESSSS

ECOLE

ECOLE POLYTECHNIQUE

w school

[stark fox]

rez you got deferred mit right

[fresh mirage]

the school got hella aura lol

[full lynx]

ye

:(

[stark fox]

hopefully you get in