#MIT (2024-2025)
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it does show ingenuity though
Should I use FTC as part of mine? Like I won design and programming awards and did everything myself, but it's an EC
Sure yeah
I wish I had included all the swerve drivetrain code I wrote in my maker portfolio
but it's an EC
do they say not to do that?
Since that took forever
No I was just unsure if that meant anything, like maybe they were looking for self-driven technical projects
youre fine submitting it then im pretty sure ive seen profiles on youtube related to FTC
sio2 what were ur stats?
Ooh I derived equations for swerve kinematics and built a 3dp swerve module and coded it. Never ran it though so I'm not sure if it worked lol
Cool, I'll probably include something relating to it - after all, it's like 20 hours a week I spend on it
Well, during the season
It's not that deep lil bro
But as for numbers just your typical 4.0/35/17 dual enrollment
ur smart asf you'll be fine
No don't 😭
LTG reference?
damn bruh
i dont get MIT
i seriously dont understand how it can be so competitive
Not over until it's over
like who are these kids getting accepted ⁉️
Eh pretty much every person applying has that or similar so 😭
you'll cook up a storm rd
MIT in particular has a lot of super cracked people who apply EA
Furina think about it this way
That's better than me I only got 3.98/34/13 dual enrollment, am I cooked?
No
At a certain point it doesn't matter
😭
I'll never know
Tbh that's the worst part of this process; you can never know what caused you to get a certain decision
@sour path stop dooming
ikr, feels like you send your application to a black box and it returns a random result several months later
i wish they recorded the committee discussion so u can see what's going on while they review ur app 😣
there are many other colleges in the sea
omg hi!
glad to see you're doing alright
vry positive mindset from you
I'm praying jazzy 🙏
Go to Harvard and cross register for MIT classes and you'll be set
TRUE black cats are literally the best
its fun to point and laugh at the rich kids
also how does the campus creep u out?
its like
sosososo cozy
i feel so safe here
i run around like an idiot at 3am
even if its a little haunted thats chill
The only part of Harvard i liked was my tour guide
and i was lowk the opposite
mit was too nerdy and scary and too right in the city
i was like im gonna get lost or shot
I toured both of them in July so my only opinion is that it was HOT and i died
It was July…
Well idk about my mit tour but i clearly remember being horrifically sweaty and dying during Harvard tour
Gotta love Ctrl i
did u jump on the rocks with the fountains
did they have the fountains on
yeah hang yourself and then theyll send the acceptance letter 🙂 💯
Wait which campus because I KNOW i remember rocks but idk… was it Harvard??
I dont remember water tho
So i think they were off
guys lets be real MIT is probs putting everyone's application into AI for weeding 🤩
Imagine putting weeks into your essays just to have some AI decide they don't even deserve the attention of the AOs
tbh id rather have an AI determine my acceptance than a person
it's more objective and they can just feed in all of the applications at once to actually determine the top 4% of applicants
I would assume that would be too stat based
Maybe the school could adjust the weight of stats so it focuses more on essays or something?
What would an objective view on essays look like though
was it for the suicidal tendencies 💀
💀
ell thats what it is
yeah but AI can probably do it in the "most" objective way
tbh i loved asking chatgpt to read my essays
to see if it liked it
i'd keep going until it liked it, or i found myself arguing with it as to why it didn't like it
thats the last thing i trust it with 💀
The thing with using chatgpt is that it just chucks it into the system and spits it out for other people
I let my apush teacher read my personal statement and he just left one comment on one word that just said “reword” 😭
im ngl i dont think any teacher wants to review a personal statement
He was the only person who read it 💀
It’s ok he was chill with it
I only freaked out initially because that was the only comment but he talked with me later and said he liked it
brain rot
wait focus on other schools lol
feller
this
peep the new username .
rez do you know how to kick a football
i dont deal with suicidal messages lol
😂😂
if you're good enough it helps with admission
being a kicker??
regardless not the sort of rhetoric i want to have to read on a thread about MIT admissions..
okay
yeah
check dms babe
Hello, for anyone who got in ea I was wondering if you know where we are supposed to submit our winter semester transcript, I can’t find it in the portal.
nice profile pic
Thx it’s my favorite album 😁
that is a pretty sweet album
however i cant find the original version on youtube music anymore it's so sad
yeah it is
which kinda sucks cuz i cant listen to the ones i like on repeat
although the whole album is pretty fire
Hmmm
What’s your favorite song, mines is epitaph
Oh ok thank you so much
Congrats to you too btw🥳🎉
I think my favorite in general by king crimson is starless
O mb I thought people saying that you got in
I’m really sorry
You’ll get in for rd for sure
Did anyone solve the detective problem btw
real
Gl

Ngl I've never really done anything "for collegeapps" but I might be locking in atp for the FUN form
might be cooked
do you guys think cross supplemental references work? they're all different topics but thematically they all reference each other?
depends on how well it’s executed
fair
i just really love my commonapp essay but obvi mit doesnt take those so
Three 225 word essays is not enough imo
not even a little 😞
I have like 3 responses to every prompt and I'm having a real hard time deciding which one to revise and submit
Also trying a new style of writing from my Stanford essays so I'm a bit anxious
For the prompt about doing something different from what was expected on your educational journey, is it bad to write about two math papers I wrote in my junior year? For context, my college classes were over and I had around 4 free hours in my school's library. I decided to learn LaTeX and write some math papers for the fun of it (one on finding the osculating circle before learning calc 3 and one on modeling the launch trajectory of a ballistic rocket including air resistance). They are very... crude. I didn't know much but tried writing it anyway, simply because I didn't have anything else to do at the time.
i think thats an interesting topic, shows you're doing something productive with your free time and learning something out of it
and it's showing you're learning stuff more advanced than you already knew
This is worth a lot more than you think tbh
I submitted some of my pretty crude astronomy notes from one of my research projects to caltech and i think paired with something more official it works well
It shows an understanding of the material tbh
if you want me to do something, actually ask me.
(i was searching my name for fun and saw this)
Oh I just kinda neglected it because I didn't think it was interesting enough, I'll write a draft now and see how it turns out, thanks!
ofc
always good to keep your options open yk
Yeah I've decided to just keep writing new essays as I come up with ideas and decide which one to refine in the end
Allows me to explore more options
definitely a good idea
skibidi
Bruhh
I'm quitting math league this year bc the captains have explicitly engaged in racist behavior for the entire club
wonder what colleges are gonna think about that 😔
lol
I almost became captain then maybe I could have dnoe more
I had first place in the poll but then the caoch decided to add sohmpres to it lsat minute so I got second :\
how do people make math league racist 😭
thats crazy work
"alright so for the end of year party we are going to be filming a reel...."
maybe idk “ur Asian so good at math”
But that’s lowkey positive racism
no it was worse
the cpatains told everyone in the club to film a reel which was basically making fun of asian acccents (~85% of the club is asian)
nah the rest of the club meetings are similarly cursed, but most of the time its not official/condoned by captains/forced upon the entre club
oh i thought it was gonna be like way worse
yeah true it could have been much worse
we do but he doesn't do anything
also captains on the basis of a popularity contest has led to a very disorganized club :\
mention that in your additional information
or deferral letter thing
or like an interview
this is definitely good to mention
bc it screws over racists
:)
for mit specifically ig it doesn't matter bc you can only put 4 ecs so I didn't mention competition math at all
but thanks for the advice
I will do so for other schools
wait my rec letter talks about how i want to do CS/math/linguistics but now im leaning towards course 11-6... is this fine??
11-6 being urban planning+CS
I can't imagine it would matter than much but what do I know
For MIT, should I add a maker portfolio when that one project is already in my EC list?
I mean if it's a cool project and you feel you could showcase it better, I don't see it hurting you at all
Alright 👍
I would say not to feel pressured to submit it if it doesn't show them anything new or your best work though
Alright got it
idk if this applies to you but research was my first extracurricular and i submitted a research portfolio
For the mit maker portfolio, if we want to submit a coding project, but don’t want to give a public github repo, where do you upload the code on slideroom?
probably in the portfolios
if I had to guess a pdf
but call up the office to make sure
instead of just copy-pasting my entire codebase i made a document outlining the project & highlighted specific/important aspects that showed ingenuity/technical skills
and explained how the code functioned, both technically and practically
Is it bad to write about content in your maker portfolio for your supplementals?
Ah so like a pdf with a few code blocks and then some comments of me explaining it
I got in EA 🙂 sorry I'm late but I just joined
For your source did you just pull this out of ur ass
W skele
Bro is trying to question us when we did the math lmao
Us im referring to you and me oops
oh LMAO
No my actual source is someone else on this thread said 0.85%
idk where they got their numbers from
⁉️⁉️⁉️
reddit says 3% but I'm not sure reddit is any more reliable than discord so idk
Fear not I used the actual numbers
yeah I'm in the mit admits server and ppl were talking about how the mit defer -> acceptance rate is p much zero
You have the same shot
actually most defers who get in are recruited athletes who had some academic issues and then they got those resolved
like after the EA deferral the coach was like "ok so admissions told me you need xyz" and then they resolve it
Where did u get this from
from where
Search “MIT Class of 2028 admissions statistics”
- the coach of the sport I tried to get recruited to (but failed 😦 ) and 2) a sophomore at mit in the admits server who was one of said defer -> accept
bc deferral->acceptance rate does not nessisarily the same as RD acceptance rate. While it is true that the applications are considered equivalently, you have more information because you know deffered students weren't cracked enough to get in EA
they literally don't see if you were deferred
hmm so if this is purely just what a few people said, then "practically 0" is a wide range. I mean, one could consider 5% practically 0
listen there's nothign wrong with being hopeful
I know you guys want to think you have a chance and I believe you do
but I'm just saying what I know
yes but if you were, say, an imo gold medalist you would have gotten in ea. Therefore, one would expect the deferral->accepted rate to be lowered because all the extremely cracked students are filtered out
Sure but it doesn't affect you admissions wise
Functionally, getting deferred EA and applying RA are the same thing
when I said additional information I meant to use as trying to approximate the acceptace rate not to AOs
Everyone fills out the FUN
Even if you are accepted EA, you have to fill out the FUN
literally there are two purposes: 1) helping recruited athletes have a second chance and 2) artificially lowering the RD acceptance rate
7486 people got deferred this year
Well it tells us that we weren't good enough to be accepted EA. If we had applied RD, we wouldn't nessisarily know that. Therefore, while the true percent chance is the same (as in, to AOs it is the same) but to us trying to estimate if we will get in or not we need to lower our expectations
imo
imo you guys are overthinking it and there are millions of more useful things you could be thinking about rn
just wait and see that's all you can do. and send in feb updates
Why are you calculating the expectations you should have? If you get in, you got in. If you don't get in, you don't get in. Why does speculating matter?
If you got deferred, it's literally the same as applying RA
human nature is going to human nature
so true
I respect your ability to be stoic about it
I am definitely going to overthink, even though it doesn't effect anything
I'm just saying: they don't see whether you were deferred or not
They just see an applicant
And also I have some suspicions that that will change this year as MIT upped the income thresholds for aid after the EA deadline
Probably gonna have a huge influx of RA applications
That's what I'm saying like more applicants probably doesn't mean more competitive applicants
So defer->accept rate might actually be higher this year
Also MIT is very conservative in EA acceptances anyways
So if you got deferred, that doesn't mean you were a bad applicant
What's the argument again
People think deferral = doomed but its the same as RA in reality
Everyone writes a FUN
RA applicants, deferred EA, and accepted EA
Yes
You can put a joke OR updates iirc
Yes
Yeah I just checked
If you don't have any updates, tell them a joke
troll ahh uni
I wouldn't be surprised if RD apps surge to 20k after the recent news about the financial aid promise
that news made it to the new york times
acceptance rate is gonna plummet
yeah
I am so lucky to be in the only pool to benefit from 4 years of the new promise without the fallout of probably up to 2x the applicants
after getting rejected from literally every summer program on earth I still can't believe that I got in
Praying this is me lol
thanks
hey everyone, do we have a rough idea of EA vs RA acceptance rates for MIT?
#1268141479440683019 message
I think they want acceptance rates for EA applications and RA applications alone, not the acceptance rates for RA among deferred applications and ones applying RA
ah, I didn't pick that up
Snow!!!
They claim applying early doesn't provide any benefit in the admissions process
Also generally speaking stronger applicants will apply EA so the stats a bit skewed and not really representative of your chances
how many athletes do they actually recruit
like say I’m a top tier men’s field hockey player but I’m not a recruited player, will it help at all
but in rd will AOs know that they wanna accept athletic kids alongside other stuff or nah
like
surely MIT can’t recruit enough for its teams
like will they actively look for players to fill in rd
Or do they fully recruit full teams thru ea
like the same as other Ivy leagues
Yo who just deleted that
abt getting recruited in rd
yh im just tryna see bc I thought it might be helpful to boost admissions
I’m technically an athlete but I never had the time to do the proper recruitment stuff and I was academically strong enough to apply normally anyways
mit dgaf
It’s d3
February updates and notes
It’s a form you have to do if you either got accepted early or deferred early and want to be considered for regular
There's often shortfalls in sports that are filled by walk-ons
It’s fine but you still gotta do the form
Bc it includes grades
You can’t submit it yet they’ll email you once you can with more instructions
I'm guessing that's up to the coach, but they still need to meet the academic bar
when is maker portoflio rd due
so its the same rate?
same rd deadline
😭
Yes
y'all need to stop spreading misinformation
Yes
Idk don't listen to me
I was quoting someone else but ig I was misinformed
Sorry about that
Mb for spreading propaganda
Nah actually ur good than >90% bc you actually own up
Oh
Throwback to when I forgot dorms ≠ dorm buildings and posted this on r/MIT
yes
I have data that I posted on r/mitadmissions
trying to find the link hold on
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WWCaO3DRum5FFF8sGnB6dKQ_oVZVQJ4jdYYS7tNOPjY/edit?usp=sharing
there it is
what's interesting is when you separate whether an applicant was deferred, regular action is the same acceptance rate either way
since if you were deferred, about 200 are accepted out of a pool of about 7500
if you are an RA applicant, about 400 are accepted out of a pool of about 15000
so it's the same percentage either way
that's why we gotta hope with what sansk was saying that it's the same either way 🙏
should i apply to mit as a 100% humanities girlie
they b doing a lil trolling
Did they decrease their class size or something
this is by class not year
that's class of 2025 that dropped to 2.5%
which is most likely because of covid
i'm doing this too!
but like 50/50 stem humanities
Are any of you guys writing LOCIs?
Doesn’t mean the rates will be the same as rd
If you would’ve got in rd
You probably would’ve ea
Yes
No, they're much more conservative in EA
But they filled like 60% of their class with EA?
omg humanities & engineering? 21e?
yess! or potentially smtg w sts
i'm struggling w the why this field essay tho 💀
i think i reused mine
what field are you interested in?
6-4 w sts, maybe also course 9
a weird blend of cs, neuro, policy, and philosophy
that sounds like an interesting problem to have
I would probably try to find a way to tie all of that together concisely
i'm not sure if i should approach the 100-word essay anecdotaly or just cut straight into what stuff at mit is relevant to all those things
what's the actual prompt?
Tell us more about why this field of study at MIT appeals to you. (100 words)
I'd probably start with mentioning course 6-4, and then weave in all my other interests. But 100 words is not a lot so it'll probably take a few iterations
gotcha i'll try that, i did one approahc where i just focused on 6-4 instead of sts but i'm not totally set on studying AI, which is why i swapped to sts
My advice would be to prioritize making you sound interesting than addressing the specific field
interesting, so mentioning what i've done or?
No, selling the interesting things you want to do
conservative in what sense
More careful about choosing people
they def weren't careful choosing me 😭
“MIT never makes a mistake in choosing people”
Or something like that
Idk the exact quote
So I’m sure you’ll do great 👍
honestly the only diff between an MIT admit and defer is that mit saw something in the admits that probably you don't even know about
it's so random
Ig
like all these IMO/USAMO kids got deferred
and then my ass got in
and I had no olympiads and no research
That just means you have something even better
not even maxed out courseload because I didn't take a high school chem class
I only self studied ap chem
maybe it was all the personality from the essays
idk
I'll never know
Unfortunately yeah
I wish MIT released their admissions files like harvard
Pretty sure they're legally required to let you view them like every other school (if you get in)
Just not your lor (and interview maybe?)
I know people who have viewed their admit file
MIT's admissions file is known to be very lacking i've heard
I need tips for MIT guysss
Anyone have any specific tips?
Tips on what
Let’s go gambling!
Real!
March 14th Aw dang it
12/17 incident
Okay so I am sick wigth covid rn, so I don't feel like being productive
Average MIT applicant
nerd
Fr 😭
were you rejected? #1268144807180767244 ED2 closes Jan 6! apply there for a good chance at a great university
For MIT it gives an advantage but not by much really
And it also doesn't matter much unless you're a recruited athlete just in general
It is a holistic process, so ECs and Stats don't tell you everything
Attach this to your FUN form
If they let you
Idk if they will tho
You might just have to write out the results
If you waive your ferpa then no lor for you
The amount you get varies by school tho
Like those Harvard who yap abt “oh yeah I saw my AO said xyz in the comments about me” are getting those comments but not every school gives access to those comments
They are only legally required to give you what you turned in afaik
Most will give you your raw number scores but at least UCSD from my friend will omit p much all comments
Ah ok good to know, thanks 🙏
Follow the injury rule
If he were to be injured before his freshman year or unable to play or chose not to for any reason, would he still make a great contribution to MIT?
if the answer is no, he wouldn’t have gotten in
athletes are recruited but academics and personality still come first
this was an interesting read lol
doesn't make me confident in my application though 😭
Best conclusion I’ve ever read
this is the most MIT thing to do💀
not everyone from intl olys is in y13
this was real interesting to read ngl
i suck balls at math
wish i was better at it so i could actually understand this shit im ngl
Have you applied to MIT...?
i do not think i'm smart enough to do well at MIT
:D
even if i somehow got in (not happening) and went
i'd be fighting for like a 10th percentile bell curve
I haven't even written my essays I have my mid terms going on 💀
Okay yeah I didn't really explain things because it was more just a random project for fun ig. It's definitely not your bad if it doesn't make sense bc I didn't explain anything in the paper really.
So normally (when there are discrete outcomes, like a dice), when we calculate expected value, we take each possible value and multiply that value by its probability. If we are using a smooth curve for our probabilities though, there are infinitely many outcomes. We would have to add infinitely many tiny pieces, each with infinitely small probability--this is exactly the definition of an integral! When we are integrating, we are effectively calculating the area by splitting the curve into pieces of size dx and adding together the area of each piece, and looking at what happens as dx gets really close to 0.
There were two integrals because the total area under the curve wasn't 1, so it wasn't really a probability distribution. So the second integral is just dividing by the total area to make it 1.
Yeah true I made lot of really bad assumptions just kinda arbitrarily bc I didn't have data. For example, I know my equation for the chance of being so deferred is wrong because it predicts that only 11% of applicants are deferred, whereas in reality it's 65% iirc
Lol don't make this random thing make you feel bad at math. I had to do a lot of Google searching to write it and it might just be wrong bc I don't know what in doing either lol.
No trustttt. Gl on the application
Nah stats is sick
Doesn't make it any less interesting to study haha
But yeah, if you're doing pure math a class that is just probability is probably more useful
What did you use for your prior?
Hmmm so the abstract said I used Bayesian analysis and thats because I thought that was going to be my plan but then I realized I didn't think that would be best but didn't update the abstract lol
To get the distribution, I assumed it would be a normal distribution in a logarithmic scale (idk, it just sounded interesting/maybe realistic), where the mean would just be the acceptance rate
oh, I just skimmed it and assumed that you used a Bayesian model
The hard part was standard deviation, so I did something really rigorous and just like said "well lets say there are 30 domestic international Olympiad medalists and lets assume that's maybe 1/9 of the people who have a >95% chance of getting in" and then fit the standard deviation to give that area.... very unrigorous and if I were trying to make this more serious that would be something to improve fs
I would assume more that it's a normal-ish distribution with a long tail to the right
For Bayes' theorem you need to know P(B|A), right? And besides just looking at how many deferred students got admitted (which would kinda invalidate the entire purpose of building a model instead of just looking at the data) I wouldn't know how to find P(deferred|admitted)
well, either way you need data to fit the model
agreed
So when your modeling, you usually try to build a model fit to the data so that you can understand it and make predictions where there isn't data, right? But I don't know what predictions one would meaningfully care about here, so realistically there is no good reason to model the data. To me it feels oddly like cheating to just fit it to the data even though that's what should be done in practice, and I think its because this is not a problem where a model is particularly useful
besides, how are you going to objectively evaluate the quality of the application
what do you mean by that
nvm, you're modeling something different
Totally agree, from the few things I’ve seen it’s certainly interesting
I'm in stats right now and it's certainly interesting indeed
it's a weird cross between math and something else
It's like... Numerical engineering. Data science is the same thing except model driven without guarantees
yeah
data science/modeling/stats is so based
ngl I first got interested in stats as a method of coping bc I was bad at pure math so I wanted to find a kind of math I was good at lol
Sometimes that's all it takes
i held a 30 minute schoolhouse.world session once 2 years ago and got a really positive review from the person i taught but i never continued to teach
is it worth including on my mit app
i have like 5 pre-alg certifications 💀
i didn’t know what schoolhouse world was until i got to that session on the mit app
how’d you find out about it
i think i just got a khan academy email randomly one day iirc
and the email introduced it to me
how do u know i took 7 aps?
me too it's so different than any other math
in terms of MIT financial aid, can you still qualify if you have a second home? income is less than 200k
The <200k income free tuition is for "typical assets"
I mean it really depends on the situation
one could have purchased a home very early and the value appreciated
but not in a position to sell the home, right
But two homes is definitely not typical assets in most cases
umm so in that case i'm most likely not to qualify?
bc my parents make international income
Maybe not for the fully free tuition
If you're international it becomes even messier
our real estate is in a diff country
I would say you should run the NPC
NPC seems to not consider housing equity
That's the only thing that will be accurate
the college board one doesn't have an input for home equity, iirc?
the other, simpler calculator doesn't factor in home equity
Actually, housing equity is not considered for MIT from what I can see
i just tried for fun, i put a 10mm home equity, but i got near full aid
lol
also, are second homes considered an investment or home equity
bc ik primary residence is not considered fs
if only i still lived in my old home in socal when applying for college 💀
i would have gotten hella aid from mit
ehhh whatever mit is a long shot anyways, no point hypothesizing
It's alright don't forget the 24% deferral acceptance rate 🔥
petition to make 24% canon
exactly
can i put a third teacher reference as my supplemental?
about to raise the class size to 2600 😎
I feel like having more space would take away from the school
the culture of the school being so tight-knit is something that adds to its appeal
oh that's true
maybe that's why they accepted more early action than years before
oh I guess that's true
but they haven't accepted this many kids EA since 2011
so maybe just maybe the class size will be bigger 🙏
us defers can get in
@rocky notch is absolutely doomed.
@rocky notch feels this server is the place to bring it up time and time again.
@rocky notch is truly A2Cooked.
actually I'll just ✨ manifest it ✨
I finished reading about a dozen blog posts from people who were originally deferred, might as well get my hopes up until it happens
or do what the bloggers did and just forget about it until March comes around
That's what I'm trying to do, yeah
Getting invested in other schools as well, but the cold reality of them all having like 3% acceptance rates is kinda sad lol
I mean getting deferred from MIT probably means you have a good shot at them too
Possibly yeah, but that's one thing I don't like about how MIT does deferrals
Idk if my app was pretty good but just not quite there, or if it's actually pretty bad but they could possibly see tiny opportunity for me to slip in
I don't think it's like that
From what I've heard pretty much everyone who is deferred has a good enough app that they are qualified enough to get in
There are just so many qualified people that, aside from the very top few, the differentiation between those who are admitted and those who aren't is so small it feels random
how many mit applicants have very strong academics? like near perfect GPAs, many APs, strong SAT
I'm not sure
but given that 65% ish are deferred and 5% admitted, probably at least 70%?
i'd probably guess above 70%, it's really not that rare to have high GPA + SAT and to take many APs in hs
then how does MIT make their admit decision with such confidence (considering they say stuff like all their decision are intentional & they make no mistakes)? how do they differentiate admits vs denials?
Also depends on the definition of "strong." As in I would bet nearly all a smart students who have above average acedmics, because why else would one apply to MIT. But that doesn't nessisarily mean near straight As and a standardized test score above the 25th percentile of admitted students
There are two types of confidence. There is confidence in lack of false positives, and confidence is lack of false negatives. Basically, they are confident that they don't admit (or admit very very few) students who aren't prepared enough to succeed. This does not mean they are confident that rejected students were not prepared or even nessisarily prepared less well. If, say, the top 70% of all MIT applicants were extraordinary students who could succeed at MIT, they could admit a random selection of the top 70% and still be confident they didn't admit anyone who wouldn't be prepared to succeed. (which is not what they do ofc but you get the point)
there's a lot of really great schools outside of the T20
RPI is one of my favorites I love its curriculum and rigor, its people, culture, etc
a lot of the top 100 are really great schools and many of them have decent (but not easy) acceptance rates
financial aid is a different story though 😔
yeah😔
I need that sweet MIT free tuition, lol
Oh for sure, there's a ton I would be happy to go to
Just can't afford any 😭
You guysss
Do you think essays are that important for MIT?
is this to my question
Yes
If I am a national rep for an olympiad but win no medal/honourable mention, is it good?
Sorry for the multitude of questions but MIT is such a weird skl
And I got rejected REA from Caltech
RPI is great - everyone I've spoken with have called RPI the MIT without the name lol
Bonked rezhx#0
Yeah I really like RPI
What did you guys write about for the diversity essay? I just wrote mine about how I discovered my passion for teaching people but I don’t think it adequately addresses the prompt. I have an idea for writing about my life in Norway and how I learned from a large variety of cultures there but I was going to put that in an optional essay prompt
Which one is that again
MIT brings people with diverse backgrounds together to collaborate, from tackling the world’s biggest challenges to lending a helping hand. Describe one way you have collaborated with others to learn from them, with them, or contribute to your community together. (225 words)
Pretty sure this is just another diversity essay
usually countries have a preliminary national olympiad so u should say that and add "qualified for international olympiad" in parenthesis
Oh I actually didn’t realize that when I wrote it so I might be cooked
But I just wrote about working with different people on a coding project and how their difference made an impact
Interesting
Well it doesn’t specifically ask about diversity so you might be fine
You could argue that you have experienced diversity of thought
I hope they see it that way
Wait I’m actually so cooked
It’s so bad now that I’m seeing it from this perspective
Wait why? I mean you addressed the prompt no?
My prompt was about having class discussions and how it introduced me to a bunch of new/random ideas, ig thats where my “diversity” came in (though it doesn’t really feel like that to me)
I feel like yours is the same in that the different people contribute different things (idk if thats what you’re writing about, but thats what i took away)
Yo mine is actually so similar rn
I think I should change it
This is like my dream school so idc how much effort I have to go through to increase my chances lol
Maybe I'm just paranoid and it's fine as is
Maybe then I should just keep what I have
I showed it to my librarian and she told me to just submit it
And that was without revisions and stuff
I watched like 100 mit essay vids and modt of them said to write it this way
Like they value collaboration over anything
Is it cliche if that collaboration is related to understanding academic material from a course?
Pretty much yeah
Oh I thought I should’ve connected more to the campus
Well there’s nothing I can do so I shall forget about this essay and lock in for others
that's exactly what I felt about it after visiting!
unfortunately I have made the foolish mistake of loving MIT
and RPI is so expensive ;-;
They give a lot of merit stuff I heard
I wrote about how a couple students showed me how this map in my school was offensive such as ukraine was part of russia and we organized a protest to get it taken down and it actually worked
this is so real
fr
like why did I get so attached to a school with a 5% acceptance rate (2% now that I'm deferred)
I think this answered the question well since that was genuinely a highlight of my junior year but I don't think it conveyed the magnitude of what we did, my school is catholic private and it never changes things
sorry if I'm messaging too much I haven't read these essays since I submitted them in october and now I'm interested
i wrote about minecraft 😛
I mean if you can tie that into the prompt it would probably make for an interesting and unique essay
can i submit my makers portfolio before i submit my application?
I think so?
ik caltech allows us to be nerdy/use jargon in our essays but is mit cool with it or nah
Should I list awards I won in FTC? We won the control award twice, a design award, and a 3d printing award. I pretty much carried the team (I designed, programmed, and printed everything at home on my own time), should I include this in like non-scholastic distinctions or something?
that's what i did for my FTC team
if they're regional awards that's good to include
Uh I'm in Minnesota so I'm not sure what that's like
so you mean League Tournaments and MN states?
i would include MN states for sure and league tournament/qualifier if you have space
We had league meets, then qualifiers, then the state championship to qualify for worlds. The last one is where I won that award
Ok cool, I'll do that. Should I put one for each award I won? And would a 2nd team selected finalist alliance be worth mentioning?
just put finalists, don't worry about fac/fa1/fa2
Just rewrote this with the topic being how I learned to collaborate with a robotics team consisting of 3 members (myself included) where both of them had differing skills (one is a graphic designer and the other a builder/designer). So I basically just talked about how challenging it was to balance everything given our time schedule but how I learned to invite them into the design process and what I learned from that. I also talked about how I learned to document everything I was doing and design parts to be serviceable after talking with them. Does that adequately address the prompt?
How important is the maker video ?
Uhhh
I wrote about how my teacher made a simulated tyrannical classroom and we all worked together to revolt
would anyone volunteer to skim through my MIT essays? im applying from syria and i dont have a lot of people to proofread --especially people who understand the process
sure dm me
thanks! I dmed you, but I think the way Discord is now, I'm probably in the "message requests" section rn
would anyone be willing to read my essays?
For summer activities, should I put 168 hours per week for traveling? Like I'm spending my entire day away from home
uh......... prolly not
Yeah that feels kinda wrong but what am I supposed to put?
If anything at all
Cause that was like a month of my summer
I can! :)
Iirc I put it exactly like that when I traveled for 2 months 
I mean what do I know but don't they explicitly say they just want to know what you're doing over the summer, not what academically specifically? Idk I put reading down I see no reason you couldn't put travel
I was referring more to the hour part
btw if its a summer activity that is not related to your application at all you should not add it
why would they care what u did on some random summer if it adds nothing to ur app
like cool, you traveled to some country, whatever
travelling is one example
Yeah it really doesn't matter that much
I put down everything I could until I maxed out the slots
because (shocker!) we exist outside of our college applications and MIT just wants to know more about our character
It would show you have multiple dimensions beyond academics and you’re an authentic human
words cannot describe how much i hate these supps
i dont have a single clue what to write for any of them
Low key MIT is the only one I enjoyed writing about
fr
reallyyy???
i genuinely cannot think of any prevalent examples in my life for the prompts
They are my first essays so I may have a bias of not experiencing the fatigue yet
But I got to be creative with them, sort of
For those who put travel on their list (or any other activity that lasts a full day), what did you put for hours? 168?
I didn't put hours
I just said how many weeks
Felt like it made more sense
Maybe that's why I got deferred though 💀
Oh the hours are optional?
Maybe?
I put stuff in the hours box I think, I just put weeks instead of hours I believe
I might've left it empty and just put the description though
Yeah I was just joking haha
Ok I might just leave it blank
Yes, 168 hours
Maybe I’m thinking too much about this lol
Yes lol
I think as long as they get the idea you spent a month in a foreign country you’re fine
@elfin forum (just out of curiosity) did you have some significant "spike" in your application
I mean you could lowkey recycle the UC supps
They’re pretty similar from what I remember
Should I replace any of these with FIRST awards (design, 3d print, inspire, finalist alliance, etc)? Like are some of these way too generic?
(Red boxes so I don't dox myself lol)
Only a little
Wait I thought FIRST Deans List is school wide
They seem fine though, I would prioritize personal awards over team ones but it seems like you’ve contributed a lot to the Controls Award
Actually idk, I thought scholastic means grade based so I only put the ones from school/collegeboard/you get the idea and the ec awards in non scholastic
I can be very wrong though
Idk I saw this and thought it belonged there
But the same article also says this
Actually I think you're right
I just remember it being mentioned at state
I had to add quite a bit ngl
Especially for the why major one
Barely fit shit in 100 words
Careful not to cram too much technical jargon into your essays as that is not the place to demonstrate your technical knowledge
Also AOs generally don't have STEM degrees, so don't assume they know everything you may mention (although you can assume some technical knowledge because it's MIT)
Bruh I’m throwing so hard
I honestly don't think they care that much
5
Maybe I can note on the fun form? Idk I’ll figure it out later
No they’re awfully generic
I’m pretty sure one was the AP Scholars thingy
You could definitely bring it up
Idk maybe that's what they want (?)
It's extremely subjective after all
Put it in your fun and you'll probably be fine
this has probably been shared but i read this and i cried and i haven’t even applied yet https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/its_more_than_a_job/
i put FIRST under non-scholastic
I'm kinda lost on where that belongs tbh after reading this: https://mitadmissions.org/blogs/entry/application_question_scholasti/
Like it says FIRST is a scholastic distinction but that feels wrong
idt it matters ngl
there's a lot of gray area
for example, if you're on a school team, it would make sense to put it under scholastic
whereas community team members might put it under non-scholastic
Yeah that's what I'm thinking too
I want to mention all my FIRST awards because I basically won them on my own against another cracked team in our league with like 7 active members, would it look bad if I mention them in both scholastic and non-scholastic distinctions?
Maybe I should move all of them to non-scholastic and add another scholastic distinction
i did piq 3, 4, 5, and 6 idt they fit
Alternatively I could do this but like
Is this bad?
am i able to submit a music portfolio if i got deferred ea
HELL NAH
DM me if you want to know my profile
Okie dokie done
I agree
I put a small little travel trip that I liked as one of my summer activities and I got deferred
I mean 4 is like the educational journey one
5 is the overcoming obstacles one
6 is why major
I put my sport for 40 hours a week and got deferred 😭
😭
thats dedication though
I sport during winter
also little thing I found for all you MIT folks
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I rewrote it after reading what I put down previously (1st one) but wasn’t sure if it was any better
Like if it looked like I was cramming more into the space than was needed
Yeah I kinda figured lol
For hours of volunteering should I put how many our team has, or how many I did myself?
Ok I did like most of it so I'll just put how many I have
what exactly is in the maker portfolio?
I have something I made that I'd like to showcase
It guides you through the process in slideroom, and you can submit up to 3 projects
Do i need to first submit my mit overall app? (also dyk how different this is compared to some other colleges that also allow maker portfolios)
tbh I don't know, but I think it doesn't matter since they ask for your application reference number and should be able to link your portfolio with your application easily
doesnt matter you can submit either or first just make sure theyre both turned in before the jan 6th deadline
😭 wait ik theres the video to submit and then there's also like a writing supplement that describes your project right
oh really? There's no more video?? dyk if this is th esame for other schools
im prob j gonna do one project
3 seems a bit 😭
Each project has like 7 responses, each 900 characters (~200 words)
It's like more writing than the supplements lol
Idk how important it is to write well though, I just think they want an idea of what you made and why
if you're going to talk about robotics which one should it be
writeup is honestly hella crazy
i thought it would be more like caltech
wtf is this for
there are 2 responses on "what you did" and something else i forgot and then you have a place to upload
still kind of disapointed on how caltech gave us a few extra days to do portfolio while mit isn't
oh...snap...
but it's prob more techincal right, not like the supps
Just use slideroom, they give you the questions there
i need to check which other colleges also take a stem portfolio 😭
Caltech is the only one I know of
It's a lot less writing I've heard
Bro why is MIT so much more writing like I'm not submitting a lab report
they make up for it with like 9 supps or smth...
yea but everybody has to go through the same suffering
same cannot be said about mit's portfolio
Wait does this mean I can submit one if I didnt do so during the EA cycle?
*a portfolio
I’m considering a Maker Portfolio or Research Supplement. I didn’t make one during EA cause I didn’t find them impressive, but I’m thinking I should still do it
Does the order of the portfolio matter? Like does the first project assume a higher priority than the other two?
Also if my project is highly code based, how would I describe the build process?
Ah yes the perfect description
Idk if I should. They’re nothing grand (really, I’m not being humble here), but I can say a lot of things about them. Any opinions?
no you cant add anything to your app
if it doesnt add much to your application, it can harm you instead of benefit you
You should submit a Maker Portfolio to MIT if you have a strong portfolio showcasing your creative, hands-on projects and making skills
It wouldn’t necessarily harm you
Also I’m not sure what defines adding much. How impressive they are, or the explanation of my process behind them?
I do think it’ll provide better information and a much more rounded context of my projects. The only thing I’m concerned about is if it’s still worth documenting them when they pretty much pale in comparison to some of the Maker Portfolios out there?
Is it bad if I put my FTC robot for the question "What have you made that holds the most personal meaning for you, and why"? I feel like a lot of people are going to have a similar answer, but I'm not sure how important it is to stand out here
I would just be honest
They really just want to know what holds the most personal meaning to you
Ok I'll just put that then
I spent so many hours on it and it had a lot of emotional meaning to me
For sure! That sounds like a great choice
For the summer activities session , it asked for approximate dates of participation. Do you need to put in mm/dd/yy? or just mm/yy?
wait dont u need mmddyy-mmddyy
It lets you put whatever
for the summer activity, does going to the beach and having a slumber to just chill out count?
cause most of the things i did in the summer fall under jobs or activities
so its kind of empty i only have relaxation related things to add
yeah i think a mix of "serious" stuff and things that show you had fun/relaxed is good
Keep in mind you can only list 6 summer activities so choose them wisely
Does anyone know if MIT only wants activities from the most recent summer, or do they accept activities from the past 4 summers while you were in high school?
can i submit my MIT app without my letters of rec thru?
Yes
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do I need to make a request through the portal for my counselor to send the school report?
or do they just send it and it shows up there by itself?
I only had a couple hours and I put it on
Basically your parents own an average ish home and don’t own some insane business or property
for MIT Why Major essay, I went for a simple answer, didnt really try to be creative or wtv
is that fine?
ofc its fine
alright, It was a 100 words so i didnt wanna waste space
alright thanks
i connected it to mit
mainly bc there isnt a direct opportunity to talk about mit rlly in the app
except if u get an interview
hmm mkay
I did the why major in that space since it's only 100 words and then prayed I got an interview for why MIT
I wouldn’t rely on the interview for the why MIT
yeah I didn't want to but I don't believe 100 words is enough to write something meaningful about both, and I wanted to write about major
also I feel like it's different than Common App colleges since MIT is another platform it shows that you want to go there more than other schools (to an extent)
I only said one sentence about MIT for that one
It was in the end
I don't think it matters though?
I used like ten words for that
Maybe ask other accepted people
@plalts
Wtf
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Did she leave
💀
rip 💀
I don't think overanalyzing all of these questions is the right answer
as the wise petey once said,
to apply sideways is wisdom. to apply forwards is folly. to apply backwards is heresy
#1135695786273943705 message
maybe i should leave
What about upside down?
How about in a car
if you apply backwards while upside down would you technically be applying forwards?
in that case you should still apply sideways then even if you're upside down
Sam I Am?
I do not like that Sam I Am
What about ham?
I do not like them, Sam I Am
I do not like green eggs and ham
-# regular ham I have no issues with
i’ve finally made an mit account yay
I did more Why MIT during my interview
My interviewer said it was the most comprehensive answer she’s ever heard 💀 idk if that’s good or bad
My interview was buns and I got in you’re chilling
oh well i got deferred
tbh my interview went pretty well overall since i had a good list of questions to ask
and we had some stuff in common as well so we talked for a good hour
ill just wait till march
Same, my interview went really well so I got false hope lol
Seems like they unfortunately don't consider it much though
From what I've seen online
Honestly I keep stressing about my interview so I'm kinda glad of this
All I can think about is all the times I was really awkward and didn't know what to say
I feel like I struggle to get my point across when it's verbal and opposed to written
Yeah that's valid
Idk I just wish it was weighted equally as essays
Cause I'm not the best at public speaking either, but once I start talking about something I'm passionate about it all just flows
what were your questions?
Why major, why mit, what would you change at your school, what worries you about MIT, what would you redo in your high school career
Oh I meant the questions you asked
But thanks for that
Oh my bad
She did crew there so I asked a lot about that
And I asked about Greek life as well
And other questions I thought about during my visit
Thanks
Also we were talking about AI so I asked how she implemented them in her work
For the MIT maker portfolio, are all coding projects required to have me attach a github repo with the full code for the project?
Pretty sure
