#MIT (2024-2025)

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long spruce
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So like not that impressive compared to building a full electric car, but I was proud

fallow cliff
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it does show ingenuity though

haughty token
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Should I use FTC as part of mine? Like I won design and programming awards and did everything myself, but it's an EC

long spruce
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Sure yeah

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I wish I had included all the swerve drivetrain code I wrote in my maker portfolio

fallow cliff
long spruce
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Since that took forever

haughty token
fallow cliff
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youre fine submitting it then im pretty sure ive seen profiles on youtube related to FTC

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sio2 what were ur stats?

haughty token
haughty token
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Well, during the season

long spruce
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Tbh I just don't feel like writing all my stats out again

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Just kinda depressing

chrome quarry
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It's not that deep lil bro

long spruce
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But as for numbers just your typical 4.0/35/17 dual enrollment

chrome quarry
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ur smart asf you'll be fine

long spruce
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No don't 😭

chrome quarry
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LTG reference?

fallow cliff
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i dont get MIT

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i seriously dont understand how it can be so competitive

chrome quarry
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Not over until it's over

fallow cliff
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like who are these kids getting accepted ⁉️

long spruce
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Eh pretty much every person applying has that or similar so 😭

chrome quarry
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you'll cook up a storm rd

chrome quarry
long spruce
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Furina think about it this way

haughty token
long spruce
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Someone will get accepted rd after being deferred

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Just gotta make sure it's us

long spruce
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At a certain point it doesn't matter

haughty token
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Yeah ig they care more about uniqueness

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Or something who knows

long spruce
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😭

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I'll never know

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Tbh that's the worst part of this process; you can never know what caused you to get a certain decision

manic imp
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@sour path stop dooming

haughty token
fallow cliff
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i wish they recorded the committee discussion so u can see what's going on while they review ur app 😣

manic imp
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there are many other colleges in the sea

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omg hi!

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glad to see you're doing alright

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vry positive mindset from you

long spruce
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😭

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If you don't get into MIT just go to Harvard instead

manic imp
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its one school like you'll be fine

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genuienly

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yes

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HARVARD

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JOIN ME

long spruce
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I'm praying jazzy 🙏

manic imp
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join me too

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i like u

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ur jiji and ur

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silicate

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or smth

haughty token
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Go to Harvard and cross register for MIT classes and you'll be set

manic imp
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black kitty supremacy

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not a lot of ppl cross register ngl

long spruce
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TRUE black cats are literally the best

manic imp
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its fun to point and laugh at the rich kids

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also how does the campus creep u out?

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its like

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sosososo cozy

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i feel so safe here

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i run around like an idiot at 3am

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even if its a little haunted thats chill

placid prairie
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The only part of Harvard i liked was my tour guide

manic imp
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and i was lowk the opposite

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mit was too nerdy and scary and too right in the city

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i was like im gonna get lost or shot

placid prairie
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I toured both of them in July so my only opinion is that it was HOT and i died

manic imp
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hot?? boston??

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my brother in christ de donde eres

placid prairie
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It was July…

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Well idk about my mit tour but i clearly remember being horrifically sweaty and dying during Harvard tour

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Gotta love Ctrl i

manic imp
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did they have the fountains on

fallow cliff
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yeah hang yourself and then theyll send the acceptance letter 🙂 💯

placid prairie
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I dont remember water tho

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So i think they were off

manic imp
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it was right next to the same science center

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there are fun rocks

placid prairie
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Why red flag

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Oh

fallow cliff
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guys lets be real MIT is probs putting everyone's application into AI for weeding 🤩

haughty token
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Imagine putting weeks into your essays just to have some AI decide they don't even deserve the attention of the AOs

fallow cliff
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tbh id rather have an AI determine my acceptance than a person

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it's more objective and they can just feed in all of the applications at once to actually determine the top 4% of applicants

outer mountain
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I would assume that would be too stat based

haughty token
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Maybe the school could adjust the weight of stats so it focuses more on essays or something?

outer mountain
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What would an objective view on essays look like though

manic imp
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was it for the suicidal tendencies 💀

long spruce
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💀

manic imp
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ell thats what it is

fallow cliff
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yeah but AI can probably do it in the "most" objective way

manic imp
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tbh i loved asking chatgpt to read my essays

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to see if it liked it

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i'd keep going until it liked it, or i found myself arguing with it as to why it didn't like it

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thats the last thing i trust it with 💀

molten mauve
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The thing with using chatgpt is that it just chucks it into the system and spits it out for other people

placid prairie
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I let my apush teacher read my personal statement and he just left one comment on one word that just said “reword” 😭

fallow cliff
placid prairie
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He was the only person who read it 💀

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It’s ok he was chill with it

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I only freaked out initially because that was the only comment but he talked with me later and said he liked it

sudden dome
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brain rot

full lynx
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yea go for it

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you got this furina

feral coyote
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wait focus on other schools lol

sudden dome
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well

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wanna learn how to kick a football?

full lynx
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feller

sudden dome
full lynx
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peep the new username .

sudden dome
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rez do you know how to kick a football

full lynx
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why

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i played football for a while

feral coyote
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i dont deal with suicidal messages lol

sudden dome
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😂😂

full lynx
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💀

sudden dome
full lynx
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being a kicker??

feral coyote
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regardless not the sort of rhetoric i want to have to read on a thread about MIT admissions..

full lynx
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okay

sudden dome
full lynx
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check dms babe

quaint ferry
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Hello, for anyone who got in ea I was wondering if you know where we are supposed to submit our winter semester transcript, I can’t find it in the portal.

quaint ferry
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Thx it’s my favorite album 😁

sudden dome
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that is a pretty sweet album

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however i cant find the original version on youtube music anymore it's so sad

quaint ferry
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Yeah that’s true

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I think on YouTube all the songs are combined together

sudden dome
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yeah it is

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which kinda sucks cuz i cant listen to the ones i like on repeat

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although the whole album is pretty fire

quaint ferry
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Hmmm

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What’s your favorite song, mines is epitaph

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Oh ok thank you so much

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Congrats to you too btw🥳🎉

quaint ferry
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O mb I thought people saying that you got in

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I’m really sorry

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You’ll get in for rd for sure

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Did anyone solve the detective problem btw

pale sierra
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real

normal stag
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Gl noooo noooo

outer mountain
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I thought it’s like 2.5% based on last year’s stats

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Not much better though

normal stag
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Ngl I've never really done anything "for collegeapps" but I might be locking in atp for the FUN form

rocky notch
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is it time for MITsimp

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jk don't kill me mods

gentle vessel
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might be cooked
do you guys think cross supplemental references work? they're all different topics but thematically they all reference each other?

proven reef
gentle vessel
haughty token
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Three 225 word essays is not enough imo

gentle vessel
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not even a little 😞

haughty token
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I have like 3 responses to every prompt and I'm having a real hard time deciding which one to revise and submit

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Also trying a new style of writing from my Stanford essays so I'm a bit anxious

haughty token
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For the prompt about doing something different from what was expected on your educational journey, is it bad to write about two math papers I wrote in my junior year? For context, my college classes were over and I had around 4 free hours in my school's library. I decided to learn LaTeX and write some math papers for the fun of it (one on finding the osculating circle before learning calc 3 and one on modeling the launch trajectory of a ballistic rocket including air resistance). They are very... crude. I didn't know much but tried writing it anyway, simply because I didn't have anything else to do at the time.

placid prairie
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and it's showing you're learning stuff more advanced than you already knew

peak jacinth
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I submitted some of my pretty crude astronomy notes from one of my research projects to caltech and i think paired with something more official it works well

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It shows an understanding of the material tbh

olive kettle
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if you want me to do something, actually ask me.

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(i was searching my name for fun and saw this)

haughty token
peak jacinth
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always good to keep your options open yk

haughty token
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Yeah I've decided to just keep writing new essays as I come up with ideas and decide which one to refine in the end

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Allows me to explore more options

peak jacinth
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definitely a good idea

lavish scroll
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skibidi

normal stag
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Bruhh

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I'm quitting math league this year bc the captains have explicitly engaged in racist behavior for the entire club

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wonder what colleges are gonna think about that 😔

full lynx
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you can make an EC out of stopping them and saving the day !

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very extra curricular .

normal stag
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lol

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I almost became captain then maybe I could have dnoe more

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I had first place in the poll but then the caoch decided to add sohmpres to it lsat minute so I got second :​\

fresh mirage
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thats crazy work

normal stag
gray dawn
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But that’s lowkey positive racism

normal stag
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the cpatains told everyone in the club to film a reel which was basically making fun of asian acccents (~85% of the club is asian)

gray dawn
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insane work

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Do yall not have an advisor

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who would immediately condone ts

normal stag
# fresh mirage thats crazy work

nah the rest of the club meetings are similarly cursed, but most of the time its not official/condoned by captains/forced upon the entre club

full lynx
normal stag
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yeah true it could have been much worse

normal stag
normal stag
manic imp
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mention that in your additional information

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or deferral letter thing

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or like an interview

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this is definitely good to mention

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bc it screws over racists

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:)

normal stag
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for mit specifically ig it doesn't matter bc you can only put 4 ecs so I didn't mention competition math at all

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but thanks for the advice

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I will do so for other schools

fresh mirage
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wait my rec letter talks about how i want to do CS/math/linguistics but now im leaning towards course 11-6... is this fine??

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11-6 being urban planning+CS

normal stag
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I can't imagine it would matter than much but what do I know

woeful coral
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For MIT, should I add a maker portfolio when that one project is already in my EC list?

wicked pond
wicked pond
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I would say not to feel pressured to submit it if it doesn't show them anything new or your best work though

woeful coral
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Alright got it

shy girder
peak jacinth
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real

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same

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not for mit ofc but i think it applies to both fairly equally

manic imp
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I DIDNT SAY ANYTHING 😭

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i mean

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hii ;3

untold mango
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For the mit maker portfolio, if we want to submit a coding project, but don’t want to give a public github repo, where do you upload the code on slideroom?

waxen cloak
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if I had to guess a pdf

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but call up the office to make sure

fallow cliff
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and explained how the code functioned, both technically and practically

haughty token
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Is it bad to write about content in your maker portfolio for your supplementals?

untold mango
elfin forum
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I got in EA 🙂 sorry I'm late but I just joined

stray plume
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For your source did you just pull this out of ur ass

cursive hazel
waxen cloak
stray plume
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⁉️⁉️

waxen cloak
stray plume
waxen cloak
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We did the calculations rmbr

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Do you not remember me :(

normal stag
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No my actual source is someone else on this thread said 0.85%

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idk where they got their numbers from

stray plume
normal stag
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reddit says 3% but I'm not sure reddit is any more reliable than discord so idk

stray plume
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Fear not I used the actual numbers

elfin forum
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yeah I'm in the mit admits server and ppl were talking about how the mit defer -> acceptance rate is p much zero

stray plume
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You have the same shot

elfin forum
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actually most defers who get in are recruited athletes who had some academic issues and then they got those resolved

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like after the EA deferral the coach was like "ok so admissions told me you need xyz" and then they resolve it

normal stag
stray plume
elfin forum
normal stag
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bc deferral->acceptance rate does not nessisarily the same as RD acceptance rate. While it is true that the applications are considered equivalently, you have more information because you know deffered students weren't cracked enough to get in EA

normal stag
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bet

elfin forum
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🤓

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I never said this was 100% true this is just the experience I know about

wise glacier
normal stag
elfin forum
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listen there's nothign wrong with being hopeful

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I know you guys want to think you have a chance and I believe you do

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but I'm just saying what I know

wise glacier
normal stag
wise glacier
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Functionally, getting deferred EA and applying RA are the same thing

normal stag
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when I said additional information I meant to use as trying to approximate the acceptace rate not to AOs

wise glacier
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Everyone fills out the FUN

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Even if you are accepted EA, you have to fill out the FUN

elfin forum
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literally there are two purposes: 1) helping recruited athletes have a second chance and 2) artificially lowering the RD acceptance rate

wise glacier
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7486 people got deferred this year

normal stag
# wise glacier Sure but it doesn't affect you admissions wise

Well it tells us that we weren't good enough to be accepted EA. If we had applied RD, we wouldn't nessisarily know that. Therefore, while the true percent chance is the same (as in, to AOs it is the same) but to us trying to estimate if we will get in or not we need to lower our expectations

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imo

elfin forum
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imo you guys are overthinking it and there are millions of more useful things you could be thinking about rn

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just wait and see that's all you can do. and send in feb updates

wise glacier
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If you got deferred, it's literally the same as applying RA

normal stag
elfin forum
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so true

normal stag
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I respect your ability to be stoic about it

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I am definitely going to overthink, even though it doesn't effect anything

wise glacier
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I'm just saying: they don't see whether you were deferred or not

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They just see an applicant

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And also I have some suspicions that that will change this year as MIT upped the income thresholds for aid after the EA deadline

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Probably gonna have a huge influx of RA applications

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That's what I'm saying like more applicants probably doesn't mean more competitive applicants

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So defer->accept rate might actually be higher this year

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Also MIT is very conservative in EA acceptances anyways

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So if you got deferred, that doesn't mean you were a bad applicant

waxen cloak
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What's the argument again

wise glacier
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People think deferral = doomed but its the same as RA in reality

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Everyone writes a FUN

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RA applicants, deferred EA, and accepted EA

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Yes

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You can put a joke OR updates iirc

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Yes

wise glacier
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If you don't have any updates, tell them a joke

sudden sand
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troll ahh uni

elfin forum
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I wouldn't be surprised if RD apps surge to 20k after the recent news about the financial aid promise

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that news made it to the new york times

wise glacier
elfin forum
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yeah

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I am so lucky to be in the only pool to benefit from 4 years of the new promise without the fallout of probably up to 2x the applicants

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after getting rejected from literally every summer program on earth I still can't believe that I got in

normal stag
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That's a W

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Congrats!

haughty token
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Praying this is me lol

elfin forum
sterile pebble
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hey everyone, do we have a rough idea of EA vs RA acceptance rates for MIT?

simple oracle
haughty token
simple oracle
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ah, I didn't pick that up

haughty token
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All good

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Kinda curious myself lol

vivid tulip
haughty token
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They claim applying early doesn't provide any benefit in the admissions process

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Also generally speaking stronger applicants will apply EA so the stats a bit skewed and not really representative of your chances

steady swift
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how many athletes do they actually recruit

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like say I’m a top tier men’s field hockey player but I’m not a recruited player, will it help at all

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but in rd will AOs know that they wanna accept athletic kids alongside other stuff or nah

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like

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surely MIT can’t recruit enough for its teams

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like will they actively look for players to fill in rd

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Or do they fully recruit full teams thru ea

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like the same as other Ivy leagues

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Yo who just deleted that

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abt getting recruited in rd

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yh im just tryna see bc I thought it might be helpful to boost admissions

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I’m technically an athlete but I never had the time to do the proper recruitment stuff and I was academically strong enough to apply normally anyways

steady swift
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I’m intl

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And I don’t wanna be recruited

hidden axle
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It’s d3

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February updates and notes

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It’s a form you have to do if you either got accepted early or deferred early and want to be considered for regular

simple oracle
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There's often shortfalls in sports that are filled by walk-ons

hidden axle
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It’s fine but you still gotta do the form

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Bc it includes grades

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You can’t submit it yet they’ll email you once you can with more instructions

simple oracle
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I'm guessing that's up to the coach, but they still need to meet the academic bar

keen girder
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when is maker portoflio rd due

coarse parrot
coarse parrot
keen girder
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😭

outer mountain
little sequoia
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me too

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what u on

waxen cloak
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y'all need to stop spreading misinformation

stray plume
normal stag
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I was quoting someone else but ig I was misinformed

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Sorry about that

normal stag
waxen cloak
coarse parrot
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booo

placid prairie
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Oh

crude flare
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Throwback to when I forgot dorms ≠ dorm buildings and posted this on r/MIT

rocky notch
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I have data that I posted on r/mitadmissions

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trying to find the link hold on

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there it is

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what's interesting is when you separate whether an applicant was deferred, regular action is the same acceptance rate either way

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since if you were deferred, about 200 are accepted out of a pool of about 7500

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if you are an RA applicant, about 400 are accepted out of a pool of about 15000

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so it's the same percentage either way

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that's why we gotta hope with what sansk was saying that it's the same either way 🙏

cursive hazel
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should i apply to mit as a 100% humanities girlie

haughty token
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Wait why did the acceptance rate drop so much this year meltingsob

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2.3% instead of 4.9% bruh

sudden sand
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they b doing a lil trolling

haughty token
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Did they decrease their class size or something

rocky notch
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that's class of 2025 that dropped to 2.5%

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which is most likely because of covid

haughty token
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Omg I’m stupid

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Sorry lol

rocky notch
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nah ur not

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no worries :)

misty badge
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but like 50/50 stem humanities

full lynx
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Are any of you guys writing LOCIs?

lavish scroll
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If you would’ve got in rd

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You probably would’ve ea

wise glacier
haughty token
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But they filled like 60% of their class with EA?

forest perch
misty badge
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i'm struggling w the why this field essay tho 💀

forest perch
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i think i reused mine

simple oracle
misty badge
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a weird blend of cs, neuro, policy, and philosophy

simple oracle
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that sounds like an interesting problem to have

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I would probably try to find a way to tie all of that together concisely

misty badge
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i'm not sure if i should approach the 100-word essay anecdotaly or just cut straight into what stuff at mit is relevant to all those things

simple oracle
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what's the actual prompt?

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simple oracle
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simple oracle
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elfin forum
outer mountain
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More careful about choosing people

elfin forum
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they def weren't careful choosing me 😭

outer mountain
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“MIT never makes a mistake in choosing people”

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Or something like that

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Idk the exact quote

elfin forum
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yeah that's what they say

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I still can't believe it tho

outer mountain
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So I’m sure you’ll do great 👍

elfin forum
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honestly the only diff between an MIT admit and defer is that mit saw something in the admits that probably you don't even know about

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it's so random

outer mountain
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Ig

elfin forum
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like all these IMO/USAMO kids got deferred

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and then my ass got in

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and I had no olympiads and no research

outer mountain
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That just means you have something even better

elfin forum
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not even maxed out courseload because I didn't take a high school chem class

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I only self studied ap chem

elfin forum
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idk

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I'll never know

outer mountain
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Unfortunately yeah

elfin forum
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I wish MIT released their admissions files like harvard

long spruce
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Pretty sure they're legally required to let you view them like every other school (if you get in)

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Just not your lor (and interview maybe?)

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I know people who have viewed their admit file

proven reef
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MIT's admissions file is known to be very lacking i've heard

nocturne sable
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I need tips for MIT guysss
Anyone have any specific tips?

long spruce
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Don't be me

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💀

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But actually it's a lot of luck at this point

outer mountain
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Tips on what

long spruce
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I would say focus on your essays

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Show as much personality as you can

outer mountain
long spruce
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Real!

outer mountain
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March 14th Aw dang it

full lynx
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12/17 incident

normal stag
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Okay so I am sick wigth covid rn, so I don't feel like being productive

chrome quarry
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Average MIT applicant

worthy rover
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nerd

normal stag
long spruce
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Based thank you 🙏

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Now I can be delusional!

normal stag
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yes

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trust in the totally legit 24% acceptance rate

prime glen
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were you rejected? #1268144807180767244 ED2 closes Jan 6! apply there for a good chance at a great university

full lynx
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Good chance

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Yep

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For real

vivid tulip
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For MIT it gives an advantage but not by much really

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And it also doesn't matter much unless you're a recruited athlete just in general

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It is a holistic process, so ECs and Stats don't tell you everything

hidden axle
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Attach this to your FUN form

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If they let you

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Idk if they will tho

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You might just have to write out the results

hidden axle
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The amount you get varies by school tho

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Like those Harvard who yap abt “oh yeah I saw my AO said xyz in the comments about me” are getting those comments but not every school gives access to those comments

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They are only legally required to give you what you turned in afaik

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Most will give you your raw number scores but at least UCSD from my friend will omit p much all comments

long spruce
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Ah ok good to know, thanks 🙏

stray plume
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Follow the injury rule

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If he were to be injured before his freshman year or unable to play or chose not to for any reason, would he still make a great contribution to MIT?

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if the answer is no, he wouldn’t have gotten in

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athletes are recruited but academics and personality still come first

rocky notch
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this was an interesting read lol

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doesn't make me confident in my application though 😭

haughty token
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Best conclusion I’ve ever read

mossy matrix
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this is the most MIT thing to do💀

sudden sand
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not everyone from intl olys is in y13

woven wave
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bro i saw integrals and i was like wtf is going on

mossy matrix
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this was real interesting to read ngl

woven wave
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i suck balls at math

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wish i was better at it so i could actually understand this shit im ngl

mossy matrix
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Have you applied to MIT...?

woven wave
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i've written my essays

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i js need to fill it out

woven wave
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:D

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even if i somehow got in (not happening) and went

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i'd be fighting for like a 10th percentile bell curve

mossy matrix
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I haven't even written my essays I have my mid terms going on 💀

woven wave
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good luck

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my school ended a few days ago

normal stag
# woven wave bro i saw integrals and i was like wtf is going on

Okay yeah I didn't really explain things because it was more just a random project for fun ig. It's definitely not your bad if it doesn't make sense bc I didn't explain anything in the paper really.

So normally (when there are discrete outcomes, like a dice), when we calculate expected value, we take each possible value and multiply that value by its probability. If we are using a smooth curve for our probabilities though, there are infinitely many outcomes. We would have to add infinitely many tiny pieces, each with infinitely small probability--this is exactly the definition of an integral! When we are integrating, we are effectively calculating the area by splitting the curve into pieces of size dx and adding together the area of each piece, and looking at what happens as dx gets really close to 0.

There were two integrals because the total area under the curve wasn't 1, so it wasn't really a probability distribution. So the second integral is just dividing by the total area to make it 1.

normal stag
# sudden sand not everyone from intl olys is in y13

Yeah true I made lot of really bad assumptions just kinda arbitrarily bc I didn't have data. For example, I know my equation for the chance of being so deferred is wrong because it predicts that only 11% of applicants are deferred, whereas in reality it's 65% iirc

normal stag
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rocky notch
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yeah I don't understand it at all either 😎

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I can see z-scores and that's it

haughty token
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Never took stats and I don’t regret it

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“Math”

long spruce
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Nah stats is sick

haughty token
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It’s like interesting but it’s not math

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Just applied math for the most part

long spruce
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Doesn't make it any less interesting to study haha

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But yeah, if you're doing pure math a class that is just probability is probably more useful

simple oracle
normal stag
# simple oracle What did you use for your prior?

Hmmm so the abstract said I used Bayesian analysis and thats because I thought that was going to be my plan but then I realized I didn't think that would be best but didn't update the abstract lol

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To get the distribution, I assumed it would be a normal distribution in a logarithmic scale (idk, it just sounded interesting/maybe realistic), where the mean would just be the acceptance rate

simple oracle
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oh, I just skimmed it and assumed that you used a Bayesian model

normal stag
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The hard part was standard deviation, so I did something really rigorous and just like said "well lets say there are 30 domestic international Olympiad medalists and lets assume that's maybe 1/9 of the people who have a >95% chance of getting in" and then fit the standard deviation to give that area.... very unrigorous and if I were trying to make this more serious that would be something to improve fs

simple oracle
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I would assume more that it's a normal-ish distribution with a long tail to the right

normal stag
simple oracle
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well, either way you need data to fit the model

normal stag
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agreed

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So when your modeling, you usually try to build a model fit to the data so that you can understand it and make predictions where there isn't data, right? But I don't know what predictions one would meaningfully care about here, so realistically there is no good reason to model the data. To me it feels oddly like cheating to just fit it to the data even though that's what should be done in practice, and I think its because this is not a problem where a model is particularly useful

simple oracle
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I guess?

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it's not like I know what the distribution actually looks like

normal stag
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yeah

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true

simple oracle
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besides, how are you going to objectively evaluate the quality of the application

normal stag
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what do you mean by that

simple oracle
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nvm, you're modeling something different

haughty token
rocky notch
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I'm in stats right now and it's certainly interesting indeed

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it's a weird cross between math and something else

simple oracle
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It's like... Numerical engineering. Data science is the same thing except model driven without guarantees

normal stag
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yeah

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data science/modeling/stats is so based

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ngl I first got interested in stats as a method of coping bc I was bad at pure math so I wanted to find a kind of math I was good at lol

simple oracle
pastel holly
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i held a 30 minute schoolhouse.world session once 2 years ago and got a really positive review from the person i taught but i never continued to teach

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is it worth including on my mit app

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i have like 5 pre-alg certifications 💀

proven reef
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i didn’t know what schoolhouse world was until i got to that session on the mit app

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how’d you find out about it

pastel holly
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i think i just got a khan academy email randomly one day iirc

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and the email introduced it to me

pulsar laurel
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how do u know i took 7 aps?

rocky notch
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me too it's so different than any other math

ashen zenith
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in terms of MIT financial aid, can you still qualify if you have a second home? income is less than 200k

long spruce
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The <200k income free tuition is for "typical assets"

ashen zenith
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what does "typical assets" mean

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avg home value?

long spruce
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I mean it really depends on the situation

ashen zenith
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one could have purchased a home very early and the value appreciated

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but not in a position to sell the home, right

long spruce
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But two homes is definitely not typical assets in most cases

ashen zenith
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bc my parents make international income

long spruce
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Maybe not for the fully free tuition

ashen zenith
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so its much much less when converted to usd

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and they don't live in the us

long spruce
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If you're international it becomes even messier

ashen zenith
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our real estate is in a diff country

long spruce
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I would say you should run the NPC

ashen zenith
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NPC seems to not consider housing equity

long spruce
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That's the only thing that will be accurate

ashen zenith
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the college board one doesn't have an input for home equity, iirc?

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the other, simpler calculator doesn't factor in home equity

long spruce
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Actually, housing equity is not considered for MIT from what I can see

ashen zenith
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i just tried for fun, i put a 10mm home equity, but i got near full aid

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lol

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also, are second homes considered an investment or home equity

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bc ik primary residence is not considered fs

keen girder
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if only i still lived in my old home in socal when applying for college 💀

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i would have gotten hella aid from mit

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ehhh whatever mit is a long shot anyways, no point hypothesizing

long spruce
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It's alright don't forget the 24% deferral acceptance rate 🔥

proven reef
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petition to make 24% canon

sudden sand
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can i put a third teacher reference as my supplemental?

rocky notch
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I feel like having more space would take away from the school

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the culture of the school being so tight-knit is something that adds to its appeal

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oh that's true

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maybe that's why they accepted more early action than years before

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oh I guess that's true

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but they haven't accepted this many kids EA since 2011

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so maybe just maybe the class size will be bigger 🙏

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us defers can get in

long spruce
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Surely they won't just make the rd acceptance rate smaller

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Surely

knotty geyserBOT
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It’s so over…

@rocky notch is absolutely doomed.
@rocky notch feels this server is the place to bring it up time and time again.
@rocky notch is truly A2Cooked.

rocky notch
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actually I'll just ✨ manifest it ✨

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I finished reading about a dozen blog posts from people who were originally deferred, might as well get my hopes up until it happens

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or do what the bloggers did and just forget about it until March comes around

long spruce
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That's what I'm trying to do, yeah

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Getting invested in other schools as well, but the cold reality of them all having like 3% acceptance rates is kinda sad lol

outer mountain
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I mean getting deferred from MIT probably means you have a good shot at them too

naive gulch
long spruce
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True, I finally have a good reason to call MIT mid

long spruce
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Idk if my app was pretty good but just not quite there, or if it's actually pretty bad but they could possibly see tiny opportunity for me to slip in

normal stag
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I don't think it's like that

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From what I've heard pretty much everyone who is deferred has a good enough app that they are qualified enough to get in

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There are just so many qualified people that, aside from the very top few, the differentiation between those who are admitted and those who aren't is so small it feels random

fallow cliff
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how many mit applicants have very strong academics? like near perfect GPAs, many APs, strong SAT

normal stag
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I'm not sure

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but given that 65% ish are deferred and 5% admitted, probably at least 70%?

proven reef
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i'd probably guess above 70%, it's really not that rare to have high GPA + SAT and to take many APs in hs

fallow cliff
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then how does MIT make their admit decision with such confidence (considering they say stuff like all their decision are intentional & they make no mistakes)? how do they differentiate admits vs denials?

normal stag
normal stag
# fallow cliff then how does MIT make their admit decision with such confidence (considering th...

There are two types of confidence. There is confidence in lack of false positives, and confidence is lack of false negatives. Basically, they are confident that they don't admit (or admit very very few) students who aren't prepared enough to succeed. This does not mean they are confident that rejected students were not prepared or even nessisarily prepared less well. If, say, the top 70% of all MIT applicants were extraordinary students who could succeed at MIT, they could admit a random selection of the top 70% and still be confident they didn't admit anyone who wouldn't be prepared to succeed. (which is not what they do ofc but you get the point)

rocky notch
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RPI is one of my favorites I love its curriculum and rigor, its people, culture, etc

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a lot of the top 100 are really great schools and many of them have decent (but not easy) acceptance rates

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financial aid is a different story though 😔

normal stag
rocky notch
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I need that sweet MIT free tuition, lol

normal stag
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yeah fr

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Obv caltech isn't any easier to get into than MIT but I saw this recantly

rocky notch
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oh sweet

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can't go to california though but still

long spruce
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Just can't afford any 😭

nocturne sable
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You guysss
Do you think essays are that important for MIT?

long spruce
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Like MIT + ivies really do just give such good financial aid

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Yes

nocturne sable
long spruce
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Yes

nocturne sable
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If I am a national rep for an olympiad but win no medal/honourable mention, is it good?

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Sorry for the multitude of questions but MIT is such a weird skl

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And I got rejected REA from Caltech

outer mountain
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Just put whatever high honors/award you have

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National is pretty good

full lynx
naive acornBOT
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Bonked rezhx#0

long spruce
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Yeah I really like RPI

haughty token
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What did you guys write about for the diversity essay? I just wrote mine about how I discovered my passion for teaching people but I don’t think it adequately addresses the prompt. I have an idea for writing about my life in Norway and how I learned from a large variety of cultures there but I was going to put that in an optional essay prompt

outer mountain
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Which one is that again

haughty token
# outer mountain Which one is that again

MIT brings people with diverse backgrounds together to collaborate, from tackling the world’s biggest challenges to lending a helping hand. Describe one way you have collaborated with others to learn from them, with them, or contribute to your community together. (225 words)

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Pretty sure this is just another diversity essay

keen girder
outer mountain
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But I just wrote about working with different people on a coding project and how their difference made an impact

haughty token
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Interesting

haughty token
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You could argue that you have experienced diversity of thought

outer mountain
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I hope they see it that way

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Wait I’m actually so cooked

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It’s so bad now that I’m seeing it from this perspective

haughty token
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Wait why? I mean you addressed the prompt no?

placid prairie
haughty token
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I think I should change it

placid prairie
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😭

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Im too lazy to change mine 😔

haughty token
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This is like my dream school so idc how much effort I have to go through to increase my chances lol

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Maybe I'm just paranoid and it's fine as is

long spruce
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You are just paranoid I promise lol

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I think overanalyzing my essays was my downfall

haughty token
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Maybe then I should just keep what I have

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I showed it to my librarian and she told me to just submit it

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And that was without revisions and stuff

molten mauve
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Like they value collaboration over anything

haughty token
long spruce
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No?

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I wouldn't say so

outer mountain
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Well there’s nothing I can do so I shall forget about this essay and lock in for others

rocky notch
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unfortunately I have made the foolish mistake of loving MIT

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and RPI is so expensive ;-;

full lynx
rocky notch
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I hope so 🙏

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would love to go there

rocky notch
misty badge
rocky notch
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fr

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like why did I get so attached to a school with a 5% acceptance rate (2% now that I'm deferred)

rocky notch
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sorry if I'm messaging too much I haven't read these essays since I submitted them in october and now I'm interested

haughty token
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I mean if you can tie that into the prompt it would probably make for an interesting and unique essay

fallow cliff
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can i submit my makers portfolio before i submit my application?

haughty token
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I think so?

pastel holly
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ik caltech allows us to be nerdy/use jargon in our essays but is mit cool with it or nah

haughty token
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Should I list awards I won in FTC? We won the control award twice, a design award, and a 3d printing award. I pretty much carried the team (I designed, programmed, and printed everything at home on my own time), should I include this in like non-scholastic distinctions or something?

keen girder
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if they're regional awards that's good to include

haughty token
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3 are regional, 1 is state level

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(One of the control awards)

keen girder
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yea it should work

haughty token
keen girder
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i would include MN states for sure and league tournament/qualifier if you have space

haughty token
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We had league meets, then qualifiers, then the state championship to qualify for worlds. The last one is where I won that award

haughty token
keen girder
haughty token
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Gotcha

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Thanks

haughty token
# haughty token MIT brings people with diverse backgrounds together to collaborate, from tacklin...

Just rewrote this with the topic being how I learned to collaborate with a robotics team consisting of 3 members (myself included) where both of them had differing skills (one is a graphic designer and the other a builder/designer). So I basically just talked about how challenging it was to balance everything given our time schedule but how I learned to invite them into the design process and what I learned from that. I also talked about how I learned to document everything I was doing and design parts to be serviceable after talking with them. Does that adequately address the prompt?

latent stag
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How important is the maker video ?

stray plume
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I wrote about how my teacher made a simulated tyrannical classroom and we all worked together to revolt

naive gulch
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would anyone volunteer to skim through my MIT essays? im applying from syria and i dont have a lot of people to proofread --especially people who understand the process

naive gulch
naive gulch
# elfin forum sure dm me

thanks! I dmed you, but I think the way Discord is now, I'm probably in the "message requests" section rn

misty badge
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would anyone be willing to read my essays?

haughty token
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I got Dean’s list semifinalist

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Alright, I’ll do that

haughty token
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For summer activities, should I put 168 hours per week for traveling? Like I'm spending my entire day away from home

simple oracle
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uh......... prolly not

haughty token
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Yeah that feels kinda wrong but what am I supposed to put?

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If anything at all

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Cause that was like a month of my summer

wheat mural
outer mountain
normal stag
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I mean what do I know but don't they explicitly say they just want to know what you're doing over the summer, not what academically specifically? Idk I put reading down I see no reason you couldn't put travel

outer mountain
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I was referring more to the hour part

fallow cliff
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why would they care what u did on some random summer if it adds nothing to ur app

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like cool, you traveled to some country, whatever

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travelling is one example

long spruce
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Yeah it really doesn't matter that much

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I put down everything I could until I maxed out the slots

torn marlin
outer mountain
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It would show you have multiple dimensions beyond academics and you’re an authentic human

torn marlin
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words cannot describe how much i hate these supps

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i dont have a single clue what to write for any of them

outer mountain
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Low key MIT is the only one I enjoyed writing about

torn marlin
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i genuinely cannot think of any prevalent examples in my life for the prompts

outer mountain
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They are my first essays so I may have a bias of not experiencing the fatigue yet

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But I got to be creative with them, sort of

long spruce
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I agree ngl

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MIT and Harvard had fun supps

torn marlin
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my fav essays were UCs easily

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also my first ones

wheat bluff
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I liked umd's ones

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Aside from the diversity one

haughty token
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For those who put travel on their list (or any other activity that lasts a full day), what did you put for hours? 168?

long spruce
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I didn't put hours

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I just said how many weeks

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Felt like it made more sense

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Maybe that's why I got deferred though 💀

haughty token
long spruce
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Maybe?

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I put stuff in the hours box I think, I just put weeks instead of hours I believe

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I might've left it empty and just put the description though

haughty token
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Interesting

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Doubt they would defer you because of that I mean it’s not that deep

long spruce
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Yeah I was just joking haha

haughty token
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Ok I might just leave it blank

haughty token
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Maybe I’m thinking too much about this lol

long spruce
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Yes lol

outer mountain
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I think as long as they get the idea you spent a month in a foreign country you’re fine

fallow cliff
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@elfin forum (just out of curiosity) did you have some significant "spike" in your application

molten mauve
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They’re pretty similar from what I remember

haughty token
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Should I replace any of these with FIRST awards (design, 3d print, inspire, finalist alliance, etc)? Like are some of these way too generic?

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(Red boxes so I don't dox myself lol)

normal stag
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Only a little

outer mountain
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They seem fine though, I would prioritize personal awards over team ones but it seems like you’ve contributed a lot to the Controls Award

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Actually idk, I thought scholastic means grade based so I only put the ones from school/collegeboard/you get the idea and the ec awards in non scholastic

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I can be very wrong though

haughty token
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But the same article also says this

haughty token
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I just remember it being mentioned at state

full lynx
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I had to add quite a bit ngl

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Especially for the why major one

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Barely fit shit in 100 words

haughty token
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Careful not to cram too much technical jargon into your essays as that is not the place to demonstrate your technical knowledge

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Also AOs generally don't have STEM degrees, so don't assume they know everything you may mention (although you can assume some technical knowledge because it's MIT)

outer mountain
haughty token
outer mountain
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Maybe

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I only listed three scholastic when I could go for five though

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💀

haughty token
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Uh

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How many non-scholastic?

outer mountain
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5

haughty token
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Ok good

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If the 3 you mentioned are your top 3, you should be fine

outer mountain
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Maybe I can note on the fun form? Idk I’ll figure it out later

outer mountain
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I’m pretty sure one was the AP Scholars thingy

haughty token
haughty token
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It's extremely subjective after all

outer mountain
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True

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I would’ve put something that’s more important to me though

haughty token
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Put it in your fun and you'll probably be fine

frank lance
keen girder
haughty token
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Like it says FIRST is a scholastic distinction but that feels wrong

keen girder
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idt it matters ngl

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there's a lot of gray area

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for example, if you're on a school team, it would make sense to put it under scholastic

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whereas community team members might put it under non-scholastic

haughty token
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking too

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I want to mention all my FIRST awards because I basically won them on my own against another cracked team in our league with like 7 active members, would it look bad if I mention them in both scholastic and non-scholastic distinctions?

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Maybe I should move all of them to non-scholastic and add another scholastic distinction

torn marlin
haughty token
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Is this bad?

ebon jacinth
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am i able to submit a music portfolio if i got deferred ea

elfin forum
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DM me if you want to know my profile

fallow cliff
long spruce
rocky notch
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I put a small little travel trip that I liked as one of my summer activities and I got deferred

molten mauve
molten mauve
rocky notch
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😭

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thats dedication though

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I sport during winter

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also little thing I found for all you MIT folks

hidden axle
rocky notch
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oh thanks

haughty token
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Which description is better?

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For FTC as an activity

haughty token
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I rewrote it after reading what I put down previously (1st one) but wasn’t sure if it was any better

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Like if it looked like I was cramming more into the space than was needed

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Yeah I kinda figured lol

haughty token
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Ok I did like most of it so I'll just put how many I have

spare nexus
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what exactly is in the maker portfolio?

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I have something I made that I'd like to showcase

haughty token
spare nexus
haughty token
fallow cliff
spare nexus
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😭 wait ik theres the video to submit and then there's also like a writing supplement that describes your project right

spare nexus
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oh really? There's no more video?? dyk if this is th esame for other schools

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im prob j gonna do one project

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3 seems a bit 😭

haughty token
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Each project has like 7 responses, each 900 characters (~200 words)

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It's like more writing than the supplements lol

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Idk how important it is to write well though, I just think they want an idea of what you made and why

keen girder
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if you're going to talk about robotics which one should it be

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writeup is honestly hella crazy

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i thought it would be more like caltech

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wtf is this for

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there are 2 responses on "what you did" and something else i forgot and then you have a place to upload

keen girder
spare nexus
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but it's prob more techincal right, not like the supps

haughty token
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Yeah they don't care about prose

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Obviously don't write poorly on purpose

spare nexus
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do you have the questions?

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or should i j use slide

haughty token
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Just use slideroom, they give you the questions there

spare nexus
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i need to check which other colleges also take a stem portfolio 😭

haughty token
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Caltech is the only one I know of

spare nexus
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oh really

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okay then thats not too bad

haughty token
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It's a lot less writing I've heard

keen girder
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it's just caltech and mit

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caltech stem portfolio is chill

haughty token
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Bro why is MIT so much more writing like I'm not submitting a lab report

spare nexus
keen girder
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same cannot be said about mit's portfolio

outer mountain
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Wait does this mean I can submit one if I didnt do so during the EA cycle?

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*a portfolio

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I’m considering a Maker Portfolio or Research Supplement. I didn’t make one during EA cause I didn’t find them impressive, but I’m thinking I should still do it

haughty token
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Does the order of the portfolio matter? Like does the first project assume a higher priority than the other two?

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Also if my project is highly code based, how would I describe the build process?

haughty token
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Ah yes the perfect description

outer mountain
fallow cliff
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no you cant add anything to your app

fallow cliff
outer mountain
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It wouldn’t necessarily harm you

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Also I’m not sure what defines adding much. How impressive they are, or the explanation of my process behind them?

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I do think it’ll provide better information and a much more rounded context of my projects. The only thing I’m concerned about is if it’s still worth documenting them when they pretty much pale in comparison to some of the Maker Portfolios out there?

haughty token
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Is it bad if I put my FTC robot for the question "What have you made that holds the most personal meaning for you, and why"? I feel like a lot of people are going to have a similar answer, but I'm not sure how important it is to stand out here

long spruce
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I would just be honest

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They really just want to know what holds the most personal meaning to you

haughty token
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Ok I'll just put that then

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I spent so many hours on it and it had a lot of emotional meaning to me

long spruce
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For sure! That sounds like a great choice

latent stag
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For the summer activities session , it asked for approximate dates of participation. Do you need to put in mm/dd/yy? or just mm/yy?

wooden stag
haughty token
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It lets you put whatever

glacial lion
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for the summer activity, does going to the beach and having a slumber to just chill out count?

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cause most of the things i did in the summer fall under jobs or activities

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so its kind of empty i only have relaxation related things to add

cloud axle
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yeah i think a mix of "serious" stuff and things that show you had fun/relaxed is good

haughty token
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Keep in mind you can only list 6 summer activities so choose them wisely

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Does anyone know if MIT only wants activities from the most recent summer, or do they accept activities from the past 4 summers while you were in high school?

fallow cliff
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can i submit my MIT app without my letters of rec thru?

long spruce
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Yes

fallow cliff
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ty

restive dawn
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do I need to make a request through the portal for my counselor to send the school report?

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or do they just send it and it shows up there by itself?

little sequoia
little sequoia
woeful coral
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for MIT Why Major essay, I went for a simple answer, didnt really try to be creative or wtv

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is that fine?

keen girder
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ofc its fine

woeful coral
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alright, It was a 100 words so i didnt wanna waste space

woeful coral
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alright thanks

wooden stag
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did yall connect it to MIT

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or just the major itself

outer mountain
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Connect it to MIT

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It’s a combination of why major and why MIT

glacial lion
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i connected it to mit

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mainly bc there isnt a direct opportunity to talk about mit rlly in the app

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except if u get an interview

wooden stag
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hmm mkay

rocky notch
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I did the why major in that space since it's only 100 words and then prayed I got an interview for why MIT

outer mountain
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I wouldn’t rely on the interview for the why MIT

rocky notch
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yeah I didn't want to but I don't believe 100 words is enough to write something meaningful about both, and I wanted to write about major

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also I feel like it's different than Common App colleges since MIT is another platform it shows that you want to go there more than other schools (to an extent)

tight shore
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I only said one sentence about MIT for that one

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It was in the end

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I don't think it matters though?

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I used like ten words for that

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Maybe ask other accepted people

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@plalts

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Wtf

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?

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Did she leave

placid prairie
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💀

long spruce
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Honestly based

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If I got into MIT I would leave as well

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💀

full lynx
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she was chill

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from nyc

tight shore
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She said she was locking in

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Locking in for waht idk lmao

rocky notch
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rip 💀

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I don't think overanalyzing all of these questions is the right answer

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as the wise petey once said,

to apply sideways is wisdom. to apply forwards is folly. to apply backwards is heresy
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little sequoia
fresh mirage
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applying backwards

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lol

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"do NOT accept me"

simple oracle
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How about in a car

rocky notch
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in that case you should still apply sideways then even if you're upside down

simple oracle
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Sam I Am?

rocky notch
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I do not like that Sam I Am

simple oracle
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What about ham?

rocky notch
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I do not like them, Sam I Am

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I do not like green eggs and ham

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-# regular ham I have no issues with

cursive hazel
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i’ve finally made an mit account yay

rocky notch
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hooray!

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you still have like 10 days

molten mauve
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I did more Why MIT during my interview

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My interviewer said it was the most comprehensive answer she’s ever heard 💀 idk if that’s good or bad

limpid walrus
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oh well i got deferred

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tbh my interview went pretty well overall since i had a good list of questions to ask

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and we had some stuff in common as well so we talked for a good hour

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ill just wait till march

long spruce
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Same, my interview went really well so I got false hope lol

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Seems like they unfortunately don't consider it much though

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From what I've seen online

normal stag
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All I can think about is all the times I was really awkward and didn't know what to say

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I feel like I struggle to get my point across when it's verbal and opposed to written

long spruce
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Yeah that's valid

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Idk I just wish it was weighted equally as essays

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Cause I'm not the best at public speaking either, but once I start talking about something I'm passionate about it all just flows

molten mauve
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But thanks for that

molten mauve
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Oh my bad

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She did crew there so I asked a lot about that

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And I asked about Greek life as well

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And other questions I thought about during my visit

fallow cliff
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Thanks

molten mauve
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Also we were talking about AI so I asked how she implemented them in her work

full lynx
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@sour path hello mit class of 2029

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mituzz?

civic sail
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For the MIT maker portfolio, are all coding projects required to have me attach a github repo with the full code for the project?

haughty token
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Pretty sure