Stanford University (2023-2024)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETeFI1pjIaE

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who the hell

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yeah I saw that

I’m gonna save the video

And watch it tomorrow

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kk yeah

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Oh wait

I confused him with another YouTuber

this is awkward

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LOL

anwyays uh this guy made a very informatonal video about admission files. probably most detailed

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last question

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.-. his stats/essays are unique though

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sure

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do caltechs fit criteria and Stanford fit criteria vastly differ?

Like would an overlap in essays even be plausible

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no idea about caltech. but almost no overlap in essay style

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ah I see

I’ll start two separate notebooks for them then

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caltech is literally only stem focused

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wait so would that house of rep internship back there hurt me then

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no. everything not stem focused is still good

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ok awesome

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but ur essays should be stem

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I was freaking out about that

Would asking my cousin for a letter of rec as Stanford alumni help orr

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no.

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no family members

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I see

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it can be seen as "nepotism"

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northeast universities: how dare you

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lmao

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that’s respectable though

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i mean nepotism is everywhere but asking for a rec letter is a little too much

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yeah

I’ll refrain then

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if ur a big donor family, then its like "understandable"

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would a house of rep letter be bad

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nah

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cool cool

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if anything thats kinda cool letter

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alright good

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kk no more questions?

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one last (sorry)

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lmao its fine

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does being Hispanic, 1st gen college student and coming from a socio-economically disadvantaged district, school and community do anything

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uh well i k this after watching some admissions videos

it will boost your chances if ur excelling. if not, it won't hurt your chances.

think about it: officers can see that maybe this school is under-resourced, but if you managed to excell, it makes u stand out

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is a majority of kids being economically disadvantaged under sourced

in one school

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well im not exactly sure what its like in an underresourced school (think like Title 1 schools) but its definitely hard to have similar stats as someone lets say from harker high school or even just a decent public school like those in the tri-valley

so it'll give you an edge over people if similar stats but different bakcgorund

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Ah I see

Well that’s good

Considering I live in the poorest US state

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oop

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wait

I don’t want this to be one of those weird questions again

but r u from usa

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eh not like u can dox me with that info; yeah

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I see cool

oh and one last (for real this time)

if Stanford electronically emails you stuff frequently

does that mean anything or am I a hope hungry bastard

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they typically email people requently

most ivys + stanford + uchicago have the money to do so

thus why they send a lot of people pamphlets

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ahh

I see

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ok I’m gonna sleep now

good night

Thank you for this info

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kk np and gn

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Yes yes and yes

decent bit

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they cant consider race, so the hispanic part is not going to give you a boost directly, its gonna be up to how you convey your lived experiences and what insight you've gained from them in ur essay

also if ur circumstances are preventing you from getting a high sat score, dw about it, stanford stated that due to the [forbidden] ruling, test optional is truly optional this year because they can't look at your sat score in comparison to your demographics

u got this bro i believe in u

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thank you (:

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???

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Stanford will straight up tell you that they think you’re shitter without leading you on

Schools like Harvard would have deferral rates in the 80s

It helps their brand because more people can say “I almost got into Harvard”

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So it’s a literal policy?

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rea "hurts" ur chances no matter what unless ur donor or legacy

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yes

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that's amazing, should i be worried if i am applying rd

wdym?

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i mean if you're not qualified you're getting rejected regardless

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stanford isn't one of my top choices so i am not worried in general but 💀

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so rea final policy is good

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oh yeah that makes sense, i understand

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the final acceptance policy is only for rea

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I mean it effectively is one

REA only hurts you if you’re sure that you will get some huge development first sem senior year

If you are competitive, you get deferred. The low deferral rate doesn’t mean that people who would stand a chance in RD are getting rejected early

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i heard it hurts u in the sense of deferral > rejection pipeline but idk if it applies to stanford admissions

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Not really

REA deferred students still have a stronger acceptance rate than RD

And being competitive doesn’t mean you’re safe either

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idk cuz theres no stats except from like 5 years ago

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Yeah I mean some colleges like to be secretive

I doubt that their policy has changed substantially, 5 years is not that long ago

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idk about that either, the scotus ruling completely changed some aspects of admissions

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Those aspects are orthogonal to REA, and I doubt they were changed that much for a school like Stanford

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they used to compare things like sat and stuff to demographics but now its like completely optional

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Idk how true this is but yeah go ahead and apply REA. I’m told that legacy doesn’t boost as hard at Stanford but is still very good to have

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that goes pretty in line with competitiveness

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They never cared much about SAT

The only requirement was that your score didn’t suck ass

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dang really??

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The average was like a 14-something lol

Pre TO

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i did not know that

so TO completely inflated everything

LMFAO

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Yeah

Looks like it was like 1480

That does not scream Stanford to me

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ya actually going back on that ive also yet to meet a legacy actually accepted lol

like theyre there but all the ones ive known have been waitlist/reject

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Yeah Stanford is still competitive for legacy

It’s a good plus but not at somewhere like Harvard

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i heard they have higher expectations or something

since we have resources

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Ehhh

Legacies are just more cracked on average despite what people say

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did u apply stanford?

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This is Harvard’s at least

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Yeah rejected REA but I had low GPA

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what does that estimate mean

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It’s just relative, so being legacy/some other factors would help more than having really solid ECs for example

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ohhh that's actually crazy being african american is estimated to be higher than native american

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Yeah it’s predictors basically. They do not need that many native Americans on campus to appear diverse

Because it’s not like you immediately know someone is Native American upon seeing him

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i mean....

that depends

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Yeah of course

But it’s not like you see one from 30 feet away and know background instantly, that’s what colleges ultimately look for

Wait have you guys still banned AA discussion lol

I assumed not because I see it discussed so much on the sub these days

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we have but like sometimes u have to talk about it when helping with admissions

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Yeah I suppose this is fine

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i just say unnamed ruling

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Let’s not say this

Oh okay

Then congratulations on your admission

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lmao speaking from experience

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nah

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I’m sure you’ll be fine haha

I know a person at Yale that did that

2027

I thought the only way Native would help is if you put a tribal number or smth

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it depends

stanford cares

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Ah I see

Hopefully you have one

Sure but you can just write about that

Yeah makes sense

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Stop

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yeah definitely not my case unless something unexpectedly happens

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When do decisions come out?

Is it usually december 15?

For REA

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ye

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Ok

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banned topic

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^

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banned

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does stanford waitlist a lot for rd?

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only about 1% of applicants

its incredibly rare due to their final decision policy

ngl ur more likely to get in than waitlisted

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What’s this

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lol what did he say

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they give a final decision where possible

or at least try to

if they think you can't get in they won't take you

if they think you can you get in or you get deferred

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Ohh

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even if they think u can get in regular, they might not defer

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You can’t do rea and neu ea right

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no u can't

its not a public nor do they give scholarships for merit

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They do give merit scholarships

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Only in EA?

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i mean if u have to apply for the merit scholarship

example: national merit semifinalist

not like: "we'll automatically consider u for merit scholarship"

or if its like "u apply early = merit"

USC = example

"any college/university with an early deadline for a scholarship or special academic program, as long as:
the decision is non-binding; and
applying early is required in order to be considered for the scholarship or program."

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Oh I need to check

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Got it

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if its only ea merit, then ur good

u can apply

if they can give merit otherwise, then no

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Need to check if this is the case

I think it’s everyone dang

Oh well

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Last yr it was Dec 16 cus the ivies did it the 15th and Stanford always likes to do the day after the ivies

But this year dec 16 is a Saturday so they prob won't do it that day

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i mean. i wouldn't mind it being on saturday

💀 if i get notified of my rejection on a school day, i can't pay attention the rest of the day

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Oh nice

Do you know of what time?

Is it usually aroudn 4:00 PM CST?

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7PM EST

last

yr

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Oh ok thanks

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ive always wondered why people apply here when the school gives a final decision

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a defer at harvard and MIT is still basically a rejection unless you have crazy application update

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Because it’s my childhood dream school and I’d like to know sooner than later

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^

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real

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for REA?

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yeah

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me, bri, and one of my other friends are just rea cuz we're legacy (and theres supposively a bigger boost rea) otherwise i think we'd rd

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im going rea because i want an earlier decision

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ngl if i get rejected i will not be that disappointed

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same

it just means more work

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u should start now bruh

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ive done harvard yale princeton mit

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oh ok ur good

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i feel like those are the schools imma apply to even if i get in rea

you know what i mean

so i finished those schools

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yeah thats me with yale penn brown columbia

probably princeton too to see if i can get in and get that sexy financial aid

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what do you want to study at brown

interesting

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bme

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oh i dont know anything about that program

the only thing i know brown is goated at is ecology

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i just wanna p/f the bme classes and letter grade the premed ones

so i can be a high gpa bme

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i want to go to a school that gives me a good chance at breaking into like

tech/swe/quant

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ngl any ivy

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or that lets me change my mind

if i really don't want to do it anymore

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i was gonna say columbia but

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there's a pretty big chance i'm gonna change my mind

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well u have 2 years to change ur mind there ig

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yea

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cuz core takes up ur first 2 years

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oh really? did they actually compare your SAT score with your demographics before?

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yes but we're not allowed to talk about this so stop

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Am i gonna get any aid if my parents make 140k a year

Is the financial aid calculator acc accuarate or does it entirely depend on FAFSA

Btw did you guys fill out hte CSS profile yet

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youll get full tuition off

prob have to pay room and board tho

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Oh wow thanks

I didn't know they gave out that much aid

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This doesn’t seem right, you would get full tuition at minimum. Do the NPC

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depends on familys savings and investments too

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Yeah ofc

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under 150 is full tuition guaranteed (with assets that match)

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That's wild bro

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full tuition isnt full ride tho u still got like 10k for room and board

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Yea but 150k isn't poor so that's a lot of fin aid

Compared to some other schools like nyu

Who wouldn't give u shit

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Yeah but u said they would get room and board off too. They probably won’t at that income

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No i didnt i just said full tuition

i meant "prob room and board tho" cuz she'd have to pay it

sorry that message was incoherent lmao

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depends on ur perspective.

but yeah still a lot of fin aid

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i come from a 220k family and 30k (our aid ngl might be more) a yr would be a huge burden

bc of the area we live in

and student loans

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Bro 😭

Yall gotta step outside fr

Get our your Beverly hills homes and visit the cities and suburbs

Meet middle class people

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150k is like lower middle in alot of places in california

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Thats only Cali and ny

Every where else 150k is pretty mid to good

Not poor at all

Median household income USA is 75k

Obvi college applicants are more right skewed

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That’s one reason though. Each state and each city has its own median household income.

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no lots of colorado its lower middle

its more than just ca and ny

esp cuz of housing inflation

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yea im doing early to see if i can get in early and not spend time on other apps and also because im legacy

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Question, does OOS play a role in Stanford admissions?

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oos is what?

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out of state

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oh some level but not a lot

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its more like: there's a chance you could be an interesting person since ur from the other side of the us

erinn andrews, former admission officer explained this (but relaly, its just who u are lol. if u don't stnad out ur chacnes are lower. )

same thing as private school = a lot of smart kids maybe but if everyone is smart well u don't stnad out. on the other hand, public school could be like 10000 peopl BUT if you manage to stand out over the 10000 people, ur have a better chance than private

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I see so basically stand out and I’ll be fine

even if I’m like from New Mexico

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Also does Stanford still not look at freshmen grades

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yes

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Stanford admits alotta cali people, but that's also because they have alot of cali applicants

so does being out of state provide any real disadvantage as opposed to cali applicants

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no. in fact it could provide an advantage ( minor minor minor minor one though)

40% are cali applicants

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K thanks for this info : D

I really hope all 13 of us make it here

All I know is we’re in the right place

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well what are you gonna do about it

true

I can’t necessarily configure my geographic location to acquiesce any particular advantage

especially not at the moment

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real

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I do wish I lived in cali instead tho

not for the process

but because there’s a lot to do there

contrasts where I live

but uh

that’s besides the point

ig

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i mean yeah there is but it can get stressful with how competitive it gets because of the resources we have.

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yeah that sucks

I live in the poorest state so there’s not a ton here

but when there is, it gets competitive for multiple people and it’s never pretty

like

I’ve only heard of top ten or valedictorian people in my area attending tier one schools like this

idk if rank plays a part if you’re out of state

but that’s generally what gets me worried

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well not necessarily. valedictorians don't always make it lol. ik a lot of people who make it without top ten (but since its cal, they ahve some other insane spike)

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i see

so you can still be around top 4% and make it

it’s just truly about the colors your application presents

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overall yeah lol

in fact, there are 10 Valedictorians in the US for every spot at Stanford

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most of what’s keeping me back in rank is freshmen year

damn

but they don’t look at that

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yeah they don't for me its unofrunate, im the only one who took an ap course in freshman year

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I have like 9 APs

I don’t know if that’s too insane

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well depends on ur school lol

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or wait

maybe more

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is more than half of your school being economically disadvantaged poor

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?

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pop

sorry

more than half of my school is economically disadvantaged

would that indicate anything

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uh well if u succeed, yeah, especially if ur as good as someone else from a non disadvantaged background

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I see

maybe all of us in this chat can collaborate on a plan for admission

like a study group or something

if anyone is alright with that

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.-. i think half of us already submitted lol (or at least 4)

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oh shit

why submit so early

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the arts supplements are due about a month earlier than the standard due dates

so ur required to submit everything early

if u want to do those

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ohhh

now I recall that

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depends on the state, if ur in the east or the south it can be a benefit due to demographics

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wait

stanford population majority from the west/midwest

what about Texas and New Mexico

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yeah, as long as ur not californian

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probably not that much

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u can have a minor advantage

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ya itd me minor

What states would benefit the most then

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the east

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none in particular. but the east = unique from californians

stand out = good

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I see

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its just a demographics thing

they want people with diverse perspectives not only from the west

new mexico or texas probably wouldnt help that much ngl cuz theyre relatively close to cali in comparison

stanford has a decent amount of new mexico im sure

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shit

my bad

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if you think about it though, that 60% non californian is split between 49 states. so don't just think u automatically have a better chance. think of it as a way to stand out if you managed to succeed well

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and no its not a thing

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yeah

being from the east wont be the determining factor

Would an applicant from like west Texas benefit

or it would be neutral ground

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no not really

neutral

I see

breh

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its not a benefit

east coast already has enough advantages ;-;

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;-; its best to just think of your background as neutral. then compare yourself to others with the same background and go form there

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ik

tbh being in the bay area might hurt a bit tho

they have higher expectations

oh for sure

I live in a poor ass city

So

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.-. have u met the new jersey try hards though

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Idk their expectations for here

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the reason why the east is so successful because they have a higher population density of tryhards lol

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well from where ur at, you prob have a minor advantage at the east coast schools bc of location

what about for Stanford

like if it’s a poor ass city

we’re talking poorest in the usa

household income ~40k

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i mean they can tell the difference between a poor ass city and a well off city.

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so east coasters have an advantage ;-;

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💀 guys no need to worry and discuss demographics now.

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no... its not an inherent advnateg. maybe for just like the top of their school east coast students. because all east coast students are really good with stats, they have to be the best of those good. same thing for bay area

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oh so it’s like what applies for the Bay Area

ig both are super competitive then

augh

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east coast only has an "advantage" bc not a lot of them apply to stanford

likewise youll have an "advantage" at harvard, yale, mit etc

but that "advantage" isnt gonna be what gets u in

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it literally just mean less ppl apply or are qualified to apply from ur state

they still gotta take distinct socio economic regional contexts into consideration within each state in sure

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Nah tx has mad applicants

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Not west Texas

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someone lemme know if I’m right or wrong

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same here

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It's still a lot since it's Texas compared to somewhere like north Dakota, Wyoming, or Idaho where you would actually have an advantage

Idt west Texas is that rare

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bro it is

there’s like one city

and it’s really poor

and they don’t take the entire state into context, just each regional area right

someone lmk

and I don’t want that advantage to not have been an advantage the entire time

It’s like one of the Crown Jewels of my application

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AOs read by state, but if you emphasize your disadvantage in essays then they'll take it into account

• ur school profile will give AOs a sense of the school/community you come from

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fuck

they don’t do it by region

I can’t afford to be fucked over more than I already have

I’m screwed

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dawg

chill lmao💀

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bro

I’ve been so stressed

I can’t afford not to make into Stanford

This news is kinda damning

I’m screwed brother

Not only do they read by state

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Really depends

There’s rural parts of the Bay Area

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yeah that’s the thing

but they’re saying they take into account the states as wholes

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I have bad news buddy

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bro

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Being rural ain't getting you in

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yeah I get it low acceptance

and that

but wait

would that help

like west

and poor

like I said I thought my geographical location was unique and was a crown jewel

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No

There's so many kids like that

Its holistic fs

So if u have lack of resources they'll take it into account

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so no geographical location will help you?

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But it's not really gonna help you significantly

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Idk bro

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I think Wyoming mfs will get aided

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Stanford accepts like 1-2 people from sac consistently per year

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maybe

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But even rural Texas man....nah

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they also said east coast

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Bc Sacramento is like ditzy

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what about east coast peeps

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I don't think it matters that much bro

So many sweaty nj mfs apply

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how do y’all even keep a cool head with this

this is so stressful

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Bc

[real herald]

Because it's bad to have a dream school

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I know I’ll get rejected

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Trust me I'm stressed

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So like

What does it matter

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LMAO RUBY SO REAL

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I did my best

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I deadass am applying for fun

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Just have the mindset that you’re going to get rejected

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There’s no point in stressing over it

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Shotgunning moment

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Ong

If you’re prepped for disappointment

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How many schools y’all applying to

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You’ll be fine when it comes

And be super happy when it doesn’t

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Nah Fr

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Idk anymore

I have to count

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Like 20+ ?

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21 I think

But

6 are ucs

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That’s not too too bad

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7

Not 6

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Yeah and I’m getting 5 done es

*ea

Two of my schools have no other supps

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Mfs from my school are applying to 50 💀

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Holy crap

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looks like it’s just socio economic then

so hopefully in good

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I really have only 6 rd schools sweet

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What about feeders then

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what are feeders

sorry im stupid

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Schools that consistently send a few kinds to a school every year

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oh yeah

I guess theyre groomed Stanford preferred standards at those schools

considering they’re around Stanford

Like they’re prepped for it the moment they start high school there

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What they tell the outside isn’t necessarily true internally

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yeah

but it’s usually something like that

like it’s definitely not far from the truth

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believe in yourself

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so to be clear, Stanford AO’s look by states as a whole

not by respective regions

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what do you mean by this

your application will be considered in context of your background and circumstances

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so like

let’s say I’m applying from west texas to stanford

clearly west Texas is different from east texas

but someone said Stanford AO’s take it by entire states in terms of background

Is this true @pine rain

[calm condor]

.-. they can still see what kind of school ur from

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do they just look at your school

[calm condor]

💀 guys just stop caring about your demogrpahics as a factor for admission. u can't even change that

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or the socio economic state of the surrounding community

[calm condor]

both.

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Of your address too?

[calm condor]

wdym my address..

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Because I have to drive like 30 min everyday to get to a better school

like

[pine rain]

do you know what your commonapp looks like

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Will they look at the socio economic state of your zip code

[pine rain]

they can see your school

your state

your address

[calm condor]

oh. dunno if they go that in detail but maybe

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yeah but do they take the zip code into consideration

[pine rain]

if you really want something to be considered in your application i would personally write aobut it

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ok

Noted

[calm condor]

.-. otherwise stop worrying about your demographics

[naive plinth]

Your school report should have all that info

[pine rain]

at the same time

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Oh ik they have that info

[pine rain]

i still think that

if you really want something to be considered in your application

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I was just wondering if they take that zip codes socio economic state into context

[pine rain]

you should write about it

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alright

[pine rain]

advocate for yourself

don't make an admissions officer do all that work

[naive plinth]

Couldn’t it end up being repetitive though

Theoretically

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sorry guys

[pine rain]

i mean they won't really think too much of it unless you bring it to light

pretty sure it'll be considered

but if you really want it to be considered

[naive plinth]

I guess yeah

[pine rain]

you should write about it

[pine rain]

have you started your application yet?

i'm just wondering

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they take into account your region when they get to committee

[pine rain]

and also i had a conversation with my friend yesterday about this but i don't think average household income is really the greatest measure of your circumstance

so if you do want to write about your circumstance don't cite that

like the average household income where i live is under 20k

actually my bad under 30k

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I’ve put together a shit ton of info but not yet

my cousin who is alumni is gonna help me out

[pine rain]

but it is certainly not a poor place

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And im starting tomorrow

why did I start on bad timing @pine rain

ur rea?

and starting today?

good luck all i have to say

no

im doing rd

none have their advantages

[pine rain]

do you have your commonapp done

are you applying early anywhere

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No

None of the schools I’m targeting have advantages in early

Including stanford

[pine rain]

do you feel like you have the stats to back up your application

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ED typically has advantages

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The essays? Not yet, im gonna draft info for specific university fit, then take into account all of my written experiences, advice, etc, get help from Stanford alumni, run it through next admit then I submit

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Yeah but not for Stanford

it’s typically very few cases

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stanford is rea not ed

[pine rain]

im just curious what are your stats

i've never heard someone tout their geography as the "crown jewel of their app"

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i dont think any rea schools have advantage

[pine rain]

seems pretty interesting

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maybe notre dame

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It’s because im from a VERY poor city

no they don't

that gives context into my stats

[pine rain]

just curious what are they

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I have a 4.3 UW gpa, engineering president, brown pre college alumni, top 4%, energy/environment head chair, systems designer of a club, house of rep intern (seeking a stem research position hopefully I get that soon)

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ur compared to kids from ur school historically

that’s definitely not all of them

that some of them

[pine rain]

you cant' have a 4.3 unweighted gpa

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A+

might be 4.3

[pine rain]

for every single class?

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are my stats good

[pine rain]

ever?

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No overall

[pine rain]

what is your gpa rating system out of

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I have 97 out of 100 uw

[pine rain]

your stats are fine for stanford

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alright good

So wait

If I’m not top ten

And rank 26

mf im top 30% of my class

ur good

but because gpa is measured by weighted (there’s a certain zip code exclusive advantage here that puts you ther-

alright

if the brown pre college is in ur ecs though id rank it low

wait why

it really isnt that impressive unless you got scholarship

So should I include

I had other stuff

That was just stuff at the top of my head

[pine rain]

did you pay for brown precollege

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you can have it

just have it lower

alright

like

the other things matter more

Well o gotta go

I have other stuff

I can send it sometime so you guys can evaluate more if you’d like

[pine rain]

we don't chance people here

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so even with the brown pre college think

do u still think my stuff is fine

that wasn’t all of it btw

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if you have more than 10 ecs, take brown pre college off

mk

im not an admissions officer so i can't tell you what's fine or what's not fine

but

i can tell you brown precollege if you paid for it isn't that impressive

disregarding hat

wait no

you also had to get admitted

then pay some

ya

but

its easy

everyone gets admitted

True

all of that aside

its just a waste of space

do both of you billys think my stats are fine

that’s a rough summary of em

i mean idk where you live, idk ur situation, and i dont work in the admissions office

but they look good ig?

alright ty

@pine rain aside from brown do you still stand by them looking fine for Stanford

[pine rain]

i don't know dude

we don't chance people here

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an#h shit

ok

well in the meanwhile

I’ll make the most out of my EC’s and other fields

Same with the common app essays themselves

[real herald]

23

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Does Stanford require mid year transcripts

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yes

every school does

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what if it drops

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drops what

ur gpa

ye

and rank

my gpa is kinda bad rn lmao

hopefully i just get in REA

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i think mostly As are fine

you don't want any Bs

Ok

[native loom]

damn honestly i might not apply rd

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Do mid year transcripts impact admissions chances?

Or are they just required

[real herald]

Yes they impact changes

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How much does it have to change to be a negative impact

Like what if it drops slightly

[dapper gale]

I alr submitted so doesn’t matter lol but my total EC hours for the school year is 38, this is reasonable right?

Doesn’t seem too high? I mean it’s the truth but idk if AOs will find it sus

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I think there was a video that went over how many hours would be feasible to AO’s and such

Check that out

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Someone lmk

[dapper gale]

Where…

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YouTube

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🥺

[dusty trench]

this is actually so tragic

😦

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What

@dusty trench DAMN IT I WAS LATE WHAT HAPPENED

[dusty trench]

nothing

just that youve been ghosted for 3 hrs

and its both sad and funny

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oh yeah

but someone lets me know what’ll happen if my mid year transcript drops slightly for Stanford

[dusty trench]

im curious too

my ap lit grade is in the gutter

but i think its hilarious that you keep following up and no one responds

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is 96 average for the quarter bad

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Hopefully someone responds soon

[dusty trench]

Idk what that translates to

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It’s a 96 out of 100 scale

It’s still considered a 4.0 according to collegeboard

[dusty trench]

Then why are you stressed

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96 is good man

4.0 gpa = 93+ usually

[calm condor]

slighty is fine.

just can't have a C (well u can, but stanford does email u asking for an explanation)

[foggy mauve]

You want every advantage that you can get, for every student they take they reject like 19

It will not dismantle the application of a sure admit but most people are not sure admits

Most admits do not seem to be sure admits either

Do not let your grades slip under any typical circumstances

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Yk

I think I can salvage this

Thank you

[ocean flame]

Am I allowed to submit my resume to Stanford? I heard Stanford Admission Portal has "Update Application" section..

[calm condor]

they do not want it. do not submit excess supplementary material (its their policy)

unless its for arts portfolio (but i don't think ur doing one given ur probably rea???? and arts portfolio deadline for rea passed)

[foggy mauve]

Generally the thicker the file, the thicker the applicant

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@pine rain i think i decided its probably in my best interest to ed columbia

just cuz with the way my mid-year grades are going i might have to rely on rea/ed

ill know fs after my wave of tests on friday

[wintry delta]

my school ends its marking period this week, so i have no time to finalize my essaays lol

also unless you got all b's or something your grades are fine dw

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i have 2 bs

but

well

1s a high c

and idk how that's gonna go

[wintry delta]

gl with rea

decision time is 6pm which is just before dinner for me
i dont want to tell my parents i got rejected/deferred at the dinner table

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idk if im gonna rea

[wintry delta]

or ed

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im just worried yk i get rejected/deferred rea and then i get below optimal grades s1, s2 then im screwed

[naive plinth]

You’re EDing??

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depends on how my big exams on friday go

[naive plinth]

Did you finish columbia supps

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no

i gotta grind

[naive plinth]

😭 hopefully exams clutch up then

Wait

You said you submitted Stanford rea

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you can change admissions deadline

[naive plinth]

Really till when

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idk

but u can now so

[naive plinth]

Interesting

Do you really want your exams to decide your early school though @dim badge

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id rather go to one of my top schools than none of my top schools

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stanford is my #1 but ngl id probably be just as happy at columbia so

[naive plinth]

Fair

[naive plinth]

That’s valid

[naive plinth]

My counselor put in the letter of rec for the other girl applying Stanford rea but not me…

I went to her first in august 💀

Like wtf

[clever grove]

WOW

[harsh sentinel]

she's taking more time for yours because she wants it to be perfect this is how we delulu ourselves join the club

(that could actually be the reason tho)

[naive plinth]

Ikr I’m appalled I asked in freaking august

[naive plinth]

So real 😭

[naive plinth]

No I doubt she probably forgot

[pine rain]

counselor recommendation submitted today 💪

[nova ruin]

W

Are you REAing Stanford?

[pine rain]

yea

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damn ur counselors suck

all my reccs were in like late September

[dusty trench]

ok

[real herald]

Bros hating

[calm condor]

damn ur counselor spent less time on ur rec. jk

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billert will get stanford

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mine just got mine done yesterday

[worldly pagoda]

got all my recs submitted today

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There’s still plenty of time for recs tho

[nova ruin]

When is the deadline for recs

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The deadline is the normal deadline

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thats not true

its a few weeks later

wait

oh

okay good

you freaked me out

[calm condor]

no.

its due the same deadline BUT they give teachers a couple weeks grace period

but it doesn't look good that your teachers submitted late.

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you can't control your teachers

[rose night]

Has anyone gotten the optional interview for stanford or no?

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no have u?

[rose night]

no

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i think they happen after nov 1

cuz u can still change admission plans

[naive plinth]

What did you decide to do

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im EDing columbia if i can finish supps in time

[naive plinth]

Oh wow congrats

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meh i wanna apply to stanford but

just not doing as good as i wanna do

[naive plinth]

Valid you could still do rea technically

Like

You wouldn’t need your report card right

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true but idk if im as strong of a candidate to stanford

[naive plinth]

True Columbia is certainly the safer route

And it’s great

But do you still want to try Stanford

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yes

[naive plinth]

But you don’t want to rea?

It’s lowkey a huge risk for you though which makes sense

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https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/t/4-years-later-reflections-of-a-columbia-college-senior/1006831

this is why im worried

[naive plinth]

Is community and school pride really important to you

*are

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yes

[naive plinth]

I would get a few more opinions from students

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i have

[naive plinth]

But ngl I felt the aggressive individualized vibe too when I visited

[naive plinth]

Did they say the same thing

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its a thing

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well theres definitely a community within ethnic clubs

so i wouldnt be missing out on it entirely

[naive plinth]

I could tell

[naive plinth]

That’s good!

I mean

If you think you’ll be happy at Columbia I’d do it

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i just heard getting into anything is hard as fuck

[naive plinth]

If you’re hesitant then…

[naive plinth]

Yeah I saw a girl on insta talk about how Columbia clubs are harder to get into than Columbia

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even the classes

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i just heard its a fight for yourself nature

[naive plinth]

Oh wow

[naive plinth]

Do you want that?

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im not sure

i think it would be beneficial for the real world

[naive plinth]

Fs but for college?

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good exposure

[naive plinth]

Will you be happy

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yes

[naive plinth]

then there you go

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You can definitely level the playing fields if you pull your cards right

(essays)

or at least that’s what I’m hoping

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my essays are good

but

like

other stuff

[vagrant bloom]

Does Stanford care about quarter grades

Or just final grades

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whatever grades are available on ur transcript when u submit it they'll see

[vagrant bloom]

But is it bda that I got an A- quarter

But ended up with an A+ final year

[calm condor]

no. they regrade your "grades"

to only letters

so A+ or A- = A

can be good or bad for u (like a B+ would be just a B)

[dim badge]

i heard they just look at your grades in context of your school

and dont consider freshman year

i havent seen any recent sources on their gpa calculation

[vagrant bloom]

Oh ok

[dim badge]

I'm pretty sure they use only final

they use SU6 or whatever

the last 6 semesters of core classes unweighted

[real herald]

a 90 is a B in my school is that still a B at Stanford?

i got 87 first sem 93 2nd sem in that class

so overall 90

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no stanford grades flat

90-100 = A = 4.0

80-89 = B = 3.0

[real herald]

ok

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wheres the source for this

[real herald]

so ill have 1 B (only 1 semester) at stanford

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ppl said this but i heard different

[real herald]

damn 3.0 is dogshit

my school does B = 87-93 at a 3.3

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thats what i deal with 🫡

[real herald]

yea but ur B is prolly 80-89

mine is 87-93

so imo it makes a little more sense

[dim badge]

93 is a b?

no

[real herald]

87-92*

93 is A

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do yk where the stanford grades flat is

i believe you

[real herald]

i only have one 87 (one semester) and an overall 90 (87 1st sem 93 2nd sem)

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im just curious

[real herald]

so stanford ill have 1 B

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90 is an A here

[real herald]

how does 1 sem work

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except in math its a 89.5

[real herald]

do they calculate by semester

or overall

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i don't remember tbh

it might not even be true

[real herald]

bruh

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see i heard that too

its from some reddit post

[real herald]

spreading misinformation goes brazy

[dim badge]

but like ive been

told that

theres this

https://www.reddit.com/r/GetIntoStanford/comments/7fwtrn/what_stanford_judges_you_on_cath_in_college/

they take into account + depending on ur school

its a reupload a persons blog

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SU6 was changed i think

according to that one guy in 2020s admission report

theres also posts like these

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/fys18x/interesting_notes_from_a_stanford_admissions/

over the summer i no lifed

and read all of the stanford posts basically

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i believe this actually

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its like 99% the generic advice tbh

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very similar to the things aos ive met have said

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the committee thing is interesting

basically "just be yourself" and pray

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its the dark side of admissions

williamthereader talked about it at princeton

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stanford admissions is very ambiguous

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there are 3.5s there with mid ecs but an outstanding character but also 4.0s with stacked ecs

you really dont know what to expect

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basically

@dim badge i found it

https://www.solomonadmissions.com/stanford-university-admissions

they said stanford grades flat

i wonder if thats where it comes from

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they look at 12th tho

not for REA

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thats true

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i am so not getting any 1s

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i mean avg admitted is 2- or whatever

but also ppl have said its like not weighted equally

[real herald]

is it by semester or by full year

bc some of my courses are 1 sem while others are the full year

if its by sem my UW is 3.95 😢

[dim badge]

i think it depends on ur transcript

does ur school report by semeste

[real herald]

yea

but they also give final grafde

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im not sure

[real herald]

they give individual sem grade

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ur prolly fine

[real herald]

and then average of the 2

i mean stanfords avg admitted is 3.94

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3.95 ain't gonna get u denied bro

[real herald]

so either way its fine

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if they grade by year my gpa is easily like a 3.8/3.9

HOPEE

[real herald]

if they grade by year lemme see what mine is

[dim badge]

damn

my school only reports final

so i'm lucky af

lmao

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freshman year i got all Bs second semester

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i mean its still good if u improve

my friend had opposite 😭

downward trend

no Bs to 1 B to 3 Bs

i have an upward trend

4.0 in 7 ap classes jr yr

tahts a W

[real herald]

idk how to calculate ngl bc economics was only 1st sem of junior year and TOk was only 2nd sem of junior year

[real herald]

i have all As fresh and soph 2 Bs first sem of IB in junior year and all A in 2nd sem of junior year

but one of the Bs became an overall 90

so thats good

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are u rea??

[real herald]

no im ngl i have 0 pressure w stanford cuz i alr know im getting rejected but j wanna see how some unis calculate gpa

im doing rd