Williams College (2023-2024)

[brazen oyster]

but idk

[willow musk]

Know anything about Carleton / Bowdoin?

Bowdoin is the only one that says mid-March

[brazen oyster]

no unfortunately :/

but bowdoin doesnt release w williams

[fresh dust]

Bowdoin releases a few days early than what their website says

For ed1 ed2 and regular decision

[willow musk]

Do they tell the date in advance?

[fresh dust]

But they will email u with the date when that time comes around

Only by like a few days though

I applied Ed 2 so I speak from experience lol

[willow musk]

(how did that go?)

[fresh dust]

I got rejected 😭

But a likely from Colby! So I’m chilling

[misty tree]

periodddddd!

[brazen oyster]

does anyoje know if theres venezuelan students here

[fresh dust]

likely from colby? how?

do they send people likelies

[fresh dust]

I got told during my pulvers scholars interview!

[brazen oyster]

Omg the portal changed

or is it me

IM SO SCARRD

its getting real

[proper orbit]

[brazen oyster]

the purple stuff dosappeared

the header and footer

AHHHH

[proper orbit]

I'm very confused of what you're talking ab cuz I think mine looks the same but also no portal astrology

[brazen oyster]

im nkt doing portal astro im just saying its just plain white now

there hsed to be purple at the bottom

[proper orbit]

do you remember when did SLACs release last year?

[brazen oyster]

third friday of march for williams!

so next week

[proper orbit]

I'm so screwed

[hearty shoal]

what time?

[brazen oyster]

i think they release at like 6

est

[brazen oyster]

NOOOO

UR IN

[proper orbit]

Bowdoin intl AR is 1.6% 💀

not bouta delulu now

fkin Bucknell is 4.6% for some reasons (aid prolly)

[brazen oyster]

OMG HELL NO

[hearty shoal]

thanks!!

[proper orbit]

also keep getting jumpscared by this 😂

[hearty shoal]

I applied to williams and bowdoin as international 😃😃

next week will be rollercoaster

[proper orbit]

that, realistically, may just be a train ride in a sad valley

[hearty shoal]

lmaooo😭

[autumn plume]

do you know when the decisions coming?

also you got deferred by vanderbilt, right? you have a good application ngl

[hearty shoal]

I think it’ll be 16th for us

[autumn plume]

ohh, big week ahead. mit also coming out

[hearty shoal]

thank you 😭😭 let’s hope for the best! we’ll get in somewhere soon

[hearty shoal]

didn’t apply there, but that’s so nice that they let applicants know by mid march

[sudden magnet]

When is williams comin

[fresh dust]

likely next friday

[autumn plume]

what changed?

[fresh dust]

do all of you have access to comment form?

at the footer?

[autumn plume]

yeah

why?

[fresh dust]

there is a login button in the footer

i was just guessing if that meant anything

[autumn plume]

no portal astrology, most colleges change portal close to decision date

[fresh dust]

is there a login button in your footer too?

[autumn plume]

yes

[brazen oyster]

its always been there. when you go to the home page without logging in its there

it doesnt mean anything

[autumn plume]

the footer has definitely changed

[brazen oyster]

i dont see it

and if it did its site wife

wide

[autumn plume]

yeah

[fresh dust]

what has changed in it?

[misty tree]

smartttttt hopefully you get in!!!!

[misty tree]

what does portal astrology even mean??????

[fresh dust]

its like ppl stressing abt small changes on their application portal thinking it means they got rejected or accepted

[autumn plume]

you wouldn't want to know

[fresh dust]

but none of us really know what any of it means so its very unproductive and annoying

[misty tree]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭.

oh.

[autumn plume]

it's a trap

[misty tree]

so real!!!

[fresh dust]

an annoying one 😭

[autumn plume]

there was a separate dartmouth server dedicated for portal astrology

[fresh dust]

LMFAO

[autumn plume]

people arguing which sign is right and wrong

[fresh dust]

id off myself

[misty tree]

i was looking in the chat for last year people who got accepted apparently if you check your mail that’s coming to your house you got accepted.

[fresh dust]

LOL

detective just like me

[fresh dust]

that is for domestic

likely

most schools send an acceptence package

so makes sense

[misty tree]

ohhhhh ok.

[misty tree]

yes!!!!!

[marble siren]

i kinda regret not applying here

[fresh dust]

it seems like a great school!

and the cow mascot is adorable!!!

[autumn plume]

which is it?

[brazen oyster]

theyre prob gonna change the informed delivery this yr

it gave it away sk bad 💀

lowk so funny tho

[fresh dust]

huh

[brazen oyster]

the packGe

[fresh dust]

what did you submit for your academic wirting

[brazen oyster]

you need to have signed ip for informed delivery usps for it to work

[brazen oyster]

ephelia my beloved

[marble siren]

my brother in law played on the football team here

[fresh dust]

an apush paper i wrote on uhhhh smth about viet american war art

[brazen oyster]

i submitted a streetcar named desire anslysis

wothout realizing

a williams alum

directed

the streetcar film

[fresh dust]

THATS SO SMART THO

shows u rlly like the school

damn

[brazen oyster]

WHEN I REALIZED A WILLIAMS ALUM DIRECTED THE FILM I WAS LIKE WHATTT

[fresh dust]

i wrote about the silicon chip war

oh yes china

geopolitiks

[brazen oyster]

unintentional demonstrated interest

[fresh dust]

i have to read a lot of news for my econ class

i wrote abt that for an assignment

[fresh dust]

yes i was like lets write about that

and sumbit

i find politics interesting

lolll i didnt bother writing smth new and i got scared when ppl said they submitted a supplement

[misty tree]

i submitted a metamorphosis paper from my multicultural literature class i took this year.

[fresh dust]

kafka

damn

[fresh dust]

supplement?

what

[brazen oyster]

i dont think u had to weite anything new

im so glad williams didnt make ne fill out a bunch of supps

[fresh dust]

me too

i think i wrote the most for barnard

i wish they had supplements

like amherst

[brazen oyster]

I THRNED IN BARNARD LIKE 2 DAYS AGO

[fresh dust]

such an exhausting winter break

[brazen oyster]

BC MY COUNSELOR SCOLDED ME

[fresh dust]

TWO DAYS

[brazen oyster]

i wasnt writing allat

[brazen oyster]

barnard emailed me to Lock in and cced her

and she saw it

[fresh dust]

LMFAO

[brazen oyster]

and she told me to come to her office now

[fresh dust]

i love big no of supplements

idk why

[brazen oyster]

and she was like

[fresh dust]

THATS SO FUNNY

[brazen oyster]

"you know how deers get stuck in headlights? thats yoh right now"

[fresh dust]

are you questbridge too!

[misty tree]

the absurdity!!!!! existentialism!!

[brazen oyster]

Like damn okay girl

[brazen oyster]

YESS

not finalist tho

but

[fresh dust]

ME TOOOO

[brazen oyster]

i used qb so much

[fresh dust]

me neither!!!

[brazen oyster]

qb rd i loce you

[fresh dust]

i applied to like 6 schools QB RD

[brazen oyster]

I CHRCKED ALL OF THEM OFF

[fresh dust]

you are not international?

nope!

[brazen oyster]

AND DIDNT FINISH MOST

[fresh dust]

im from georgia

[brazen oyster]

i clicked off caltech

[fresh dust]

LMAO

[brazen oyster]

and didjt submit the supp

or the stem recc

canr wait for my rejection today

(i would die in caltech)

[fresh dust]

i only did rice, notre dame, williams, and colby

[brazen oyster]

OOO

i did colby qb rd

[fresh dust]

and i did bowdoin and barnard but i submitted common app

[brazen oyster]

williams commonapp

for some reason i had the genius idea of rankijg mit and caltech

when im humanities

[fresh dust]

LMFAO

youll get your decision today!

[brazen oyster]

Easiest rejection of my life

[raw spruce]

when does generally the decision for williams come

[fresh dust]

friday!

6 pm

[misty tree]

omg i tried looking on tiktok for caltech acceptances and it’s not a lot 😭. hopefully you get in tho!!!

[brazen oyster]

ikr like 300 ppl get in a yr

[fresh dust]

caltech is abnormally tiny

[brazen oyster]

if i get in imma be so confused

they dont have my transcript my supps my reccs nothing

im surprised they didnt withdraw me

[fresh dust]

bascially my high school which has 250 ppl

[raw spruce]

wdym, which friday

[brazen oyster]

omfg ur high school is so tiny whatt

[fresh dust]

this friday

march 15

coined LAC day

[brazen oyster]

i have sl many decisions the 15th

[raw spruce]

o ok

[brazen oyster]

hectic day

[fresh dust]

LOL yeah

i have 4

on the 15th

[brazen oyster]

SAME I THINK

[fresh dust]

maybe 5 if northeastern buckles up

[brazen oyster]

wiat northeastern is the 15th?

[fresh dust]

idk last year it was 17 which was 3rd friday of march

but like its northeastern

they always late lmao

[brazen oyster]

oooh

[brazen oyster]

REALL

[fresh dust]

so im not really expecting them to release friday but maybe!

[brazen oyster]

i hope u get in omg

i applied to northeastern hc i was too lazy to write another supp

[fresh dust]

lol i lowkey dont know if i would go

im #poor

and i got into georgia tech and its in state

so idk 😭

[misty tree]

damn i’m instate and got rejected from ga tech, but two people from my school got in. they had high act scores.

[fresh dust]

i had a 31

i should have taken it more than once but i procrasinated testing lol

[misty tree]

that’s why 😭. i’m not good at standardized test.

[fresh dust]

LOL my sat was abysmal

[brazen oyster]

same

[fresh dust]

my school made me take it

and i was like lol NO

[brazen oyster]

my npc was so expensive

[fresh dust]

what is a npc

non custodial parent?

wait im dumb thats ncp

[brazen oyster]

net price calculator!!

[fresh dust]

OH LOL

[brazen oyster]

i think it was 17k + loans

and my efc is like

0

[fresh dust]

same

schools wanna us to go in debt

[brazen oyster]

so expensive for no reason

IKR

williams is the only school thwt would make me pay nothing

not even work study ??

😍

[fresh dust]

LOL

get that bag 😝

what do you want to major in!

[brazen oyster]

omg that personal expenses grant

[brazen oyster]

public health or sociology!!

idk yet

i wanna do research

[misty tree]

😍😍😍😍😍 exactly.

[brazen oyster]

wbu

[brazen oyster]

theyre so wealthy its insane

[fresh dust]

i want to be a chemical engineer!

[brazen oyster]

oooo omggg

r u gonna do the dual engineering program at williams

[misty tree]

middle of nowhere, but so wealthy 😛!

[fresh dust]

yeahhh thats the plan if i get into williams or colby

but also

georgia tech 🥰

so idk 😭

[fresh dust]

AND THEY HAVE COWS!!!

im a sucker for farm life

[misty tree]

😭😭😭😭 purple cow.

[brazen oyster]

YES

and the nature

[misty tree]

😭😭😭😭😭😭 omg not.

[brazen oyster]

it wpuld be such a break from soflo

[fresh dust]

yess i need to get out of the suburbs

[brazen oyster]

omggg u got in?

[fresh dust]

yeah lollll

[brazen oyster]

congrats thats amazing

[fresh dust]

so i need to make a tough choice

lac or gt

[fresh dust]

thank you both of you guys are so sweet 🙈

[misty tree]

bruh i went on a hike with my school on august 4th and it was death!!! basically we wrote a letter to our freshman self and we had to release it into the water. the hike is required at williams i think i will literally die if i have to take another hike.

[brazen oyster]

omg nooo

[fresh dust]

LMFAO ga heat is not it

[brazen oyster]

i dont think its required?

[fresh dust]

i think cold hiking would be more enjoyable

all bundled up

[hearty shoal]

williams is soo lovely

[brazen oyster]

SAME

[fresh dust]

and maybe smores!

[brazen oyster]

here we cant even go hiking

[hearty shoal]

I can’t be mad at them even if they decide to reject me

[fresh dust]

LOL fl is FLAT

[brazen oyster]

well if ur willing to drive 2 hrs to the everhwldes

but the everglades is so ugh

[fresh dust]

aw hell no

alligators

[brazen oyster]

SO MANY MOSQUITOS

[fresh dust]

swamp

green water

icky

[brazen oyster]

it smells so bad

[fresh dust]

LOL

[brazen oyster]

and it looks sketchy af

[fresh dust]

i think my dream state to live in would be cali

[brazen oyster]

the parking is the entrance

[fresh dust]

nice nature, city, moutains, and job oppertunites

[brazen oyster]

cali is sooo beautifullll

[fresh dust]

plus good colleges for potential future offspring

[brazen oyster]

mine is massachusetys

i applied to like

[misty tree]

oh 😭.

[brazen oyster]

7 mass schools

[fresh dust]

oh wow MA scares me

[brazen oyster]

whyyy

[fresh dust]

seems so like rich and tiny

[brazen oyster]

i love if

TRUE

i just love new england

[misty tree]

me neither cause i did test optional and most people that get in have high test scores 😭.

[fresh dust]

IVE NEVER BEEN THO SO IDK

[fresh dust]

interestingly i have written about cows in my common app

i did test optional for williams too!

💀

their act average was like a 35

and i was like

[brazen oyster]

sameee

[fresh dust]

better not to disadvantage myself

[fresh dust]

i submitted my test score

[brazen oyster]

my gpa is so low for williams too

but im still top 10%

[fresh dust]

same 💀

[honest ginkgo]

bro williams has such high average test scores

[fresh dust]

but i am not 10%

idk if 1550 is good for williams

stupid competitive high schools

[brazen oyster]

i think as long as ur top 50%

[honest ginkgo]

i went test opt too😭

[brazen oyster]

thats fine then

[misty tree]

😭 not most of us test optional.

[fresh dust]

yeahhh i am lol

[fresh dust]

how much did you got in real test

?

[brazen oyster]

i think a small amount of williams stufent submit test scores

according to the cds

its like 40%

[honest ginkgo]

1430

[brazen oyster]

so we may be fine

[fresh dust]

💀

[brazen oyster]

i submitted my aps tho

[honest ginkgo]

me too

i have straight 5s for my aps

[fresh dust]

i am intl couldn't submit aps

yeah rice and williams were the only schools where i didnt report my silly 31

[brazen oyster]

yaaaay

[honest ginkgo]

for some reason i was just ass at the SAT

[misty tree]

60% chance of not getting in 😍😛.

[brazen oyster]

this is so real

[fresh dust]

FR

[honest ginkgo]

YUP

[fresh dust]

sat was the bane of my existence

SAT is not that hard but

[honest ginkgo]

it's like my biggest regret in this whole process

[brazen oyster]

i hate the sat and act

[fresh dust]

1260 is embrassing

[brazen oyster]

We r the same person

[fresh dust]

but act was so much better for me

[fresh dust]

that actually is embrassing

[brazen oyster]

?

[honest ginkgo]

bruh chill out

[brazen oyster]

so rude

[fresh dust]

she said it is embrassing

yeah i did not report that to any school

i am just supporting her

any score is good bruh

[honest ginkgo]

anyways yeah and now all this talk abt test-opt policies not actually being best for admissions is making me sooo nervous

[misty tree]

never took the sat only act 🥲.

[fresh dust]

test really doesn't matter

[brazen oyster]

i dont think it affects a lot of lacs

lots of these lacs have been to even before covid

[fresh dust]

for me, it was necessay to callibrate my grades

[honest ginkgo]

oh thats true

was williams prior to covid?

[brazen oyster]

lemme check

[honest ginkgo]

ik that like bowdoin has been test opt for like 50 years

[brazen oyster]

YES

[misty tree]

OMG I BEEN SAYING THIS!!!!! test scores don’t define you!!! you are all important!!

[fresh dust]

it was

[honest ginkgo]

i loveee bowdoin

[fresh dust]

amherst has written test as v imp

in its CDS

[brazen oyster]

no they went to during covid

williams

[fresh dust]

love that mental health grind 🫶

[honest ginkgo]

ohh ok

[fresh dust]

test are just bumass

bro i just love learning

[brazen oyster]

but they extended it so

it wont hyrt us

[fresh dust]

will do best at my major

[honest ginkgo]

truth

[brazen oyster]

i cant wait for friday omg

[fresh dust]

so many decisions!!!!

i have

uga

colby

williams

notre dame

[misty tree]

you have to have this mindset, life is a test we make decisions everyday. sometimes we fail sometime we succeed. your decisions shouldn’t define you neither should test scores.

[fresh dust]

and maybe northeastern

[brazen oyster]

FUNNN

i have

williams

colby

amherst

swarth

haverford maybe

[fresh dust]

LAC GIRLIE

[brazen oyster]

INLOVE THEM

i shluldve applied to more

[honest ginkgo]

WHAT WAIT THEY ALL COME OUT THE 15TH?

[brazen oyster]

i regret not applying to more on commonapp

[fresh dust]

haverford has a caltech dual degree program 💪

[brazen oyster]

MAYBE

[brazen oyster]

OBERLIN TOOO

[misty tree]

think so.

[honest ginkgo]

omg

[brazen oyster]

and then a day later

wellesley

mf deferred me ed1 i just wanna see how it ends

[fresh dust]

LMFAO

wellesley was a school i ranked for QB

[brazen oyster]

Wost day of my life.

SAME

[fresh dust]

but i didnt follow through for RD

[brazen oyster]

they were #8

and then i did ed

[fresh dust]

holidng out hope you!!!

you got this 💪

[brazen oyster]

YOU TOOO

[misty tree]

ts got me stressed all the decisions want to come out this week or the week after next 😭.

[brazen oyster]

me too im praying they come out eatly

[misty tree]

!!!!!!!!

did anyone one in here get into uga? i got deferred.

[fresh dust]

i got deferred too 😣

but! i read their blog

and deferred means your grades made the cut

bc thats all they look for early

[misty tree]

omg twins 👯‍♀️.

[fresh dust]

and regular they read your essay and extracurriuclars

[misty tree]

i had a 3.9 tho, it was definitely my test scores.

act was a 21 😔.

[fresh dust]

that is above avg

slay girl

[misty tree]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 true.

[misty tree]

slayyyyyy!

if i don’t get in i won’t even be mad. know that it just wasnt might to be.

[fresh dust]

i don't want to get rejected with 3.94 UW and 1550

i will be v sad

[misty tree]

from uga or williams? GIRL THAT GOOD ASS STATS.

[fresh dust]

williams

no fr bros stats are cracked

[sturdy rivet]

forgot I applied here

do y'all think it's too late to withdraw

[fresh dust]

def not

[fresh dust]

you still can

just click the button and you are free!

[misty tree]

you gotta get in!!!!

[fresh dust]

inironically i wrote about cows in my common app

[sturdy rivet]

hmm should I

[misty tree]

ngl your definitely getting in.

[sturdy rivet]

it's not like my parents will let me go here even if I get in

[fresh dust]

run away from your house and go

[brazen oyster]

i dont see a bytton to withfraw so u may have to email

[fresh dust]

thanks girl

[brazen oyster]

but the decisions r in a wk anyways

[misty tree]

yeah i say just wait until decisions.

[sturdy rivet]

lolll

[sturdy rivet]

oh

atp I'll just leave it

[spice copper]

What time does it historically come out

[misty tree]

probably next week the 15th or the 22nd.

[spice copper]

what time

[misty tree]

probably 6 pm.

[crisp stirrup]

hello all, current student at williams feel free to ask any q's

[fresh dust]

How do you like it!

Is it too small

Or I’ve heard it’s very stressful

[misty tree]

what do you rate the food at williams ???

[crisp stirrup]

it’s small but I enjoy it

[crisp stirrup]

it’s not too stressful, everyone is just always busy though

[crisp stirrup]

some days it’s alright, other days it’s not great

chicken is always undercooked

[misty tree]

😭😭😭😭😭😭 omg.

[fresh dust]

Do you ever regret choosing Williams

• what are ur favorite parts of attending

[crisp stirrup]

nah not rly

i had alot of options and still came here

[spice copper]

What are you studying there out of curiosity? @crisp stirrup

[crisp stirrup]

math

[spice copper]

Oh cool how has your experience been? I might study the same thing

[tranquil dagger]

is the small community nice at williams

[vivid wind]

what’s one thing about williams you would change

[hearty shoal]

what kind of schools you were choosing between?

[hasty kettle]

my favorite school I visited was williams. I want to ED there, but I'm worried that if I get in, I'll miss out on "better" (and I mean the quotes) schools. how do I snap out of it?

[crisp stirrup]

I think so but it definitely depends on ur perspective

[crisp stirrup]

it’s cliquey

[crisp stirrup]

mainly here vs Columbia but lots of other top schools

[crisp stirrup]

lol. Williams is one of the best schools out there… what you’re calling “better” may not necessarily be better for you

[fresh dust]

What do ppl at Williams do for fun, lowkey scared of the rural lac w nothing to do around

[crisp stirrup]

I think it definitely depends on your interests but people hang out/go to club events/go out on weekends etc

[fresh dust]

cliquey?

[crisp stirrup]

personally I think this is a non issue as most of the time you’re too busy to go anywhere anyways (I think this is true of any top school)

[crisp stirrup]

yes there’s a large athlete/non athlete divide

[fresh dust]

oh 💀

[fresh dust]

are there many cows in the campus?

[crisp stirrup]

just to preface im a freshman

[crisp stirrup]

haha there’s a few by stone hill which is like a mile from campus

nice hiking spot

[fresh dust]

did you check your admissions file?

That’s a good question

I wanna do that wherever I get in

[crisp stirrup]

afaik you can’t do that anymore at Williams

[fresh dust]

i thought you could do that

[crisp stirrup]

not anymore apparently

admissions was sending post cards to some frosh saying what they liked about their app

is Williams among your guys top choices

[fresh dust]

I am not expecting to get in lol

But if I do that would be amazing and I’d definitely consider going

[thick pumice]

whats the party scene like at williams?

like actual events or just alcoholism

[fresh dust]

yes it is

but i am not getting in

[brazen oyster]

yes

my dream school rn

if i get in im 99.9% sure im committing

[crisp stirrup]

I definitely am not in the best position to answer this since I don’t party / drink but it’s definitely more like events

[thick pumice]

athlete as in people who were recruited athletes or just people involved in the sports scene

[crisp stirrup]

sports scene

[brazen oyster]

like id pay the enrollment deposit asap if i could (i cant afford the $200 immediately but)

[thick pumice]

are most people not involved in sports?

[crisp stirrup]

if you get enough fin aid that gets waived afaik

[brazen oyster]

omg rly??

[crisp stirrup]

~35-40% athlete, rest non athlete or causal

[brazen oyster]

how easy is it to get involved in sports does it have to be intense involvement or are there ppl who play casually

[crisp stirrup]

unless things changed from last year

[brazen oyster]

thats amazing

i love that

[crisp stirrup]

people definitely do club sports which is p casual

[thick pumice]

are you counting casual players as in the sports scene?

[crisp stirrup]

no

[fresh dust]

Does Williams have their own ice rink

[crisp stirrup]

YES

[fresh dust]

I play hockey and used to figure skate

YAYYY

[crisp stirrup]

yeah they just closed it for the season but yeah

[fresh dust]

Colby’s looks so huge but I didn’t know about Williams

[crisp stirrup]

Oct-March

[thick pumice]

ah so youre saying theres a social divide between 40%/60% of the student body

[crisp stirrup]

Yeah somewhat

[thick pumice]

do you know if theres a mountain biking community type thing at williams

[crisp stirrup]

I would ultimately say you have to just know what’s the best for you. A lot of these “better” colleges are very similar to Williams anyways and differ mainly in the name prestige + specific opportunities

[crisp stirrup]

not sure if it’s mountain biking specifically but there’s the purple bike coalition on campus

[thick pumice]

oh cool

[fresh dust]

I feel like quality of life is the biggest thing im looking for in a college bc i went to a v competitive highschool, more so want a fun and happy experience rather than burnout

Does that track w Williams or nah

[crisp stirrup]

I think it depends on who you ask and what’s your definition of fun and happy

[thick pumice]

@crisp stirrup whats the major split like

[crisp stirrup]

if you ask some people here, they’d said this place is depressing

[fresh dust]

Any context on why?

[crisp stirrup]

I heard this from upperclassmen when I was deciding, personally I don’t find this true

[crisp stirrup]

in part due to the weather, winter is long and cold and lots of rain year round

and everyone is always busy (but I think that’s true of any top institution)

[crisp stirrup]

lots of math/cs/Econ lol

[fresh dust]

Like what exactly do you mean by busy a school ig i have an impression of fun and happy of is umich

[crisp stirrup]

https://williamsrecord.com/463894/news/stem-economics-departments-stretch-to-meet-rising-course-enrollment/

[fresh dust]

And somehow surprisingly gt

[crisp stirrup]

I haven’t seen umich so I can’t compare

I would say this place isn’t cutthroat though

especially not compared to large unis I’d presume

[tranquil dagger]

its very different to umich

[fresh dust]

Ik a few ppl at Columbia Yale and Cornell even Stanford and none of them feel like it’s cutthroat or the idea of a lot of academic pressure

[tranquil dagger]

mostly bcos umich is a big school

and williams isnt

[fresh dust]

Yeah I also think it’s a location thing

Winters in a rural area probs aren’t great for mental health at a hard school

[thick pumice]

nah i love the countryside

[fresh dust]

They are all actuallt having a lot of fun so I don’t wanna commit to a school that wouldn’t like be happy for me yk

[thick pumice]

do people get psycho about jobs and internships and stuff like that

[crisp stirrup]

It depends on the person but I haven’t found this to be an issue at all

[crisp stirrup]

yea lol lots of people searching

but I wouldn’t say psycho

[thick pumice]

yeah im sure people try hard

but do people gatekeep and stuff a lot

[crisp stirrup]

from my perspective no

I mean like random people won’t go out of their way to tell you about things but your friends would definitely share

[fresh dust]

I’ve heard at ucb ppl are so competitive they unshare study guides and gatekeep notes and stuff and ts is wayyy to competitive

[crisp stirrup]

nah none of that here

people like extremely willing to share that kind of stuff

[thick pumice]

nice

[misty tree]

just like high school 😭😭, dang it.

[misty tree]

yes.

@crisp stirrup how is the diversity? and did you do test optional???

[crisp stirrup]

I would say it’s predominantly white but I think it’s pretty diverse

[crisp stirrup]

I submitted test scores

[misty tree]

yeah i’m cooked 😍😛.

[fresh dust]

what is your test score

[crisp stirrup]

it’s not relevant

[crisp stirrup]

I know quite a few people who did not submit test scores

[misty tree]

ok, maybe i’m not fully cooked 🙏🏽.

[fresh dust]

no just tell

it doesn't matter

if you don't want to tell here, i can dm

[crisp stirrup]

seriously guys test scores are not that big of deal

[misty tree]

not to ga tech or uga 😭. but i get what you mean. they don’t define you.

[crisp stirrup]

only 60% of my class submitted test scores

[misty tree]

i still have a 40% chance 🙏🏽!

@crisp stirrup is it more people who come from private or public schools that go to williams?

[crisp stirrup]

Public I think but there’s definitely a good chunk of people who come from private

[misty tree]

i still have a little hope of getting in thanks 🙏🏽.

[hasty kettle]

yeah it's just there's a lot of nepo at my high school so it's "ivy or nothing" which sort of leaks into me even though my heart leaps out at williams. (prospective math/cs btw)

[crisp stirrup]

I chose here over Columbia fwiw and I know many here who chose Williams over an ivy

[hasty kettle]

what was their reasoning?

also what are the "specific opportunities"? Quant?

[misty tree]

i just know that was a hard decision. do you regret it?

[crisp stirrup]

nah

[crisp stirrup]

it was hard but I know what I prioritize and what’s best for the path I want to take

[hasty kettle]

PhD perchance?

[crisp stirrup]

some had better fin aid here, some felt Williams was better equipped to prepare them for med school, some people just thought the more intimate environment would allow them to flourish more

[crisp stirrup]

likely not

[crisp stirrup]

like engineering or very niche special topics

[misty tree]

real!!

[hasty kettle]

do you know what the quant scene is like at williams? Is it possible to break in? What about IB or PE

[crisp stirrup]

I also got many other offers from top schools and still came here

[hasty kettle]

yeah honestly I love that about williams. the finaid calculations are by far the best too

I want to ED there

[crisp stirrup]

quant scene is small and it’s hard to break in but def possible

[hasty kettle]

coo

cool

[crisp stirrup]

IB and PE huge here

[hasty kettle]

yeah it's hard to break in from any ivy tho

[crisp stirrup]

and MC

[hasty kettle]

I just want to be able to open as many doors as possible you know?

don't want to limit my possibilities

and I know PhD placement is very good

[crisp stirrup]

I don’t think going to Williams necessarily limits in any ways

[hasty kettle]

that's good to hear

[crisp stirrup]

if you go to MIT Princeton or something it could be slightly easier to crack quant

[hasty kettle]

sure that's true for p much everything tho

[crisp stirrup]

but it comes down to what you prioritize

[hasty kettle]

there's also a level of nepo that comes with that tho

thanks bro I'll let you know if I ultimately decide to ED

[crisp stirrup]

for example, I got to spend an hour and a half with my real analysis prof one on one during office hours last week

[hasty kettle]

wow

[crisp stirrup]

like that’s something that I’d never get at Columbia or elsewhere

[hasty kettle]

yeah that's one thing I like about williams

I also love nature so that's a big one to be close to some of the best nature in the northeast

I'm in CT so it's sort of familiar but it's much nicer over there

[fresh dust]

Yes that’s a very large pro to LACs the small class sizes equate to more specialized attention so better grades plus rec letters if ppl want a masters or a PhD

[hasty kettle]

nicee

[crisp stirrup]

yeah

support systems are strong here as well

[fresh dust]

Williams also does tutorials and Jan plan

How was your first Jan plan!!!

[brazen oyster]

imma do every single tutorial

[crisp stirrup]

winter study? Haha

it was great I took a course on product management

very relaxing had lots of fun w friends

[fresh dust]

Lolll why did you choose that one over “funner” ones

I saw one on glass blowing

And nature 😭

I think some ppl use it for internships too

[crisp stirrup]

haha you right i just read the description and thought it would be a good fit for me

[crisp stirrup]

yeah some people do a 4 wk internship

or research w a prof

[brazen oyster]

can u do both

[crisp stirrup]

potentially

[hasty kettle]

bro is speedrunning

thanks ben for the Q&A it really helps solidify my opinions and thoughts

[crisp stirrup]

yes also happy to answer other questions as well

I got lots of other offers and happy to speak to those schools but I’m not as well versed on all of them

[fresh dust]

What do you know about the 3/2 Eng programs

I want to be a chemical engineering major and like experiences could apply to other schools I end up at too

[brazen oyster]

also what is the diff between concentrations and makors

they dint rly elaborate

[crisp stirrup]

I’ve been thinking about doing the 3/2 for fin eng at Columbia recently haha

[brazen oyster]

but i wanna do both cog sci and public health and theyre both concentrations

[crisp stirrup]

think of concentrations as minors

[brazen oyster]

oooohhh

[crisp stirrup]

almost no one does it and you gotta plan carefully to do it

[misty tree]

i say you do!! just for the experience!

@crisp stirrup is the stem at williams good? specifically the biochemistry program?

[thick pumice]

Hey how big is the outdoors sports scene at Williams? Like skiing and stuff

[crisp stirrup]

not sure about biochem particularly but chem and bio are strong

[fresh dust]

Damn is there a reason ppl don’t do it

You mentioned a lot of engineers go to Williams

[crisp stirrup]

nah not really

[crisp stirrup]

specific requirements you gotta get done in 3 years and people don't want to say goodbye so quickly

[crisp stirrup]

yeah its pretty big

x country and skiing

over winter study you can get discounted passes at the local ski resort

and theres a williams shuttle that goes to and from the ski resort every weekday

[fresh dust]

Rich people leisure 😝

[fresh dust]

I saw not so great opinions abt it on Reddit

[crisp stirrup]

not many people talk about it

[fresh dust]

I might attend Colby and they have the program too

So I was looking into it

[crisp stirrup]

i don't think williams particularly attracts engineers

like for most people, theyd just go to a top uni and do engineering from the get go

[fresh dust]

Yeahhh that’s why I’m leaning toward gt

More co op opportunities

And job prospects from what I can tell

[thick pumice]

Also whats the weather like? How cold does it get in the winter and stuff

[crisp stirrup]

depends on field

[crisp stirrup]

as cold as single digits this year

supposedly this winter was very weird

[fresh dust]

Chemical engineering 🤷🏻‍♀️

[crisp stirrup]

are you pre med

[fresh dust]

No not at all 😭

I want to go into sustainable energy development

Starting off in oil and gas and working through water treatment facilities

Sounds like envir Eng but chem applies more w heat transfer classes and less of a civil emphasis

[crisp stirrup]

ah gotcha

[thick pumice]

Consistently?

That’s damn cold

[boreal patio]

How do you like the dorms and which would you say is the best that freshman can live in?

[crisp stirrup]

well, i got really unlucky so i am in a really bad double in frosh quad

it depends on what you prefer but i think mission is superior

all of my friends live in mission

frosh quad is more convenient

[crisp stirrup]

most freshmen (2/3) get a single

[boreal patio]

Are the bathrooms communal? I can’t seem to find that information on the website

[brazen oyster]

omg thats great

and is there a way to avoid communal bathrooms?

[crisp stirrup]

yes you share with 5-10 people

[brazen oyster]

i have accomodations

[crisp stirrup]

potentially yes

[fresh dust]

REALLY

my 504 is so helpful

[brazen oyster]

SAMEEE

my schools gonna help me get accomodations w my college too

[fresh dust]

Yeahhh I chose 504 bc it’s for whole life and not just highschool

[crisp stirrup]

housing is pretty generous w accomodations

[fresh dust]

That’s very nice to know

[brazen oyster]

yaaaa

[tranquil dagger]

holy shit that’s so awesome

[hasty kettle]

you can do it for financial engineering??? How does financial aid work at this program? Is it just williams tuition amount or more?

[brazen oyster]

according to past dates they should be updating the williams afmission and aid and deadline pages w the release date

[thick pumice]

really

isnt having a roommate the whole point of american schools

[opaque gust]

Is Williams coming out this Friday or on April 1st?

[fresh dust]

fry day

[main charm]

the wait is killing me

[tranquil dagger]

eh

i mean dont get me

wrong

having a roommate would be awesome

but singles are so cool too

its subjective ig

[fresh dust]

do we know what time?

[fresh dust]

time iss just an illusion

it really isn't when it comes to college decisions though 😭

[fresh dust]

it shouldnt matter to you

college decision are mere deceptions

so you don't focus on what is important

do you take IB TOK or something lmao

[fresh dust]

no i don't

aw that's disappointing

[fresh dust]

there is nothing called disappointment in this world

it is just a human emotion

you rise above your body

and only focus on your soul

indeed

[fresh dust]

are you okay?

you're asking me? 😭

yes

yes, I'm okay haha

[fresh dust]

god bless you

thank you truly

[brazen oyster]

i love my williams ao

😭😭😭❤️

[main charm]

what if ur roommate is an annoying dipshit

its such a gamble

especially ifu dont know anyone

plus what if my roommates got more game than me what am i gonna do then

[fresh dust]

Oh! Did they contact you

[misty tree]

ao? what is that?

[fresh dust]

Admissions officer!

[misty tree]

ohhhhhh.

[tranquil dagger]

that’s why u don’t go random

[tranquil dagger]

wingman

[brazen oyster]

she responded to an enail abt my extenuating circumstances and she was sooo sweet ill dm

[brazen oyster]

ad mission officer!

[misty tree]

gotcha!

williams is the only college where i can’t see who my admission counselor in portal, have to look them up. Wish i wasn’t the only person in my school who applied to williams, wouldn’t be so stressful about decisions coming out.

[brazen oyster]

at least theyre super friendly and u can find them online yale aos are like

A phantom

and sameee

i have no one to talk to abt this irl

and im p sure im the only one in my school whos applied in yrs so my counselor cant say much

[misty tree]

literally it’s so lonely.

[brazen oyster]

no one knows abt lacs

its kinda crazy

when i committ to one ppl r gonna think its a random community college

theyre missing out tho

[misty tree]

THIS!!!!!! only one other person applied to bowdoin like me 😭. 2 people out of 161 people.

[brazen oyster]

only one kid has gone to an lac in my 3 yrs in this school and that was bc he did possee

its fr lonely

[misty tree]

nobody knows lac 😭. only got into one lac so far which is agnes scott college. like 2 people from my school actually went through and got possee, i think people were scared to commit especially to a school they don’t want to go. I wasnt nominated sadly but it’s actually a good thing, gave me options!!!

[brazen oyster]

AGNES SCOTTYT

i wanted to apply so bad

omggg u were nominated

i wanted to do possee for pomona

but did qb instead

i didnt like the options for my city so

i wouldve only done it for pomona

[misty tree]

they gave me the most aid so far 29k but it’s still going to be expensive. SCOTTIEEE 🐶.

[brazen oyster]

THATS WHY I DIDNT APPLY

[misty tree]

wasnt* sorry typo.

[brazen oyster]

SO PRICY

[brazen oyster]

ooooohh

[misty tree]

did you get into pomona??

[brazen oyster]

i never ended up applying 💀

[misty tree]

😭😭😭😭 dang it.

[brazen oyster]

tje supps were so hard

i was like nah

and did northeastern instead

[tranquil dagger]

williams is 🔥🔥

applied on a whim

[brazen oyster]

also they rejected me from their fly in

[brazen oyster]

same idk why i put them on my common app bht im so glad i did

[sterile remnant]

only claremont ones i did were pomona and pitzer

[brazen oyster]

i only ended up doing scripps

[sterile remnant]

gave up on cmc cuz everyone kept talking about how conservative it is

[brazen oyster]

i wanted to do pitzer so bad and forgot

[sterile remnant]

i did the fly in so i liked it

[brazen oyster]

for the longest time i thoufht pitzer was qb college

[misty tree]

damn 😭.

[sterile remnant]

love how my list is majority lacs and none of them have said they want me yet

[misty tree]

hopefully you get into williams 🙏🏽!

[brazen oyster]

this friday is gonna go so well watch

[sterile remnant]

lets hope so

[brazen oyster]

trying to respond to williams ao without sounding Mean

[opaque gust]

Wait how do people know it’s coming out Friday

[brazen oyster]

baded on past days

[opaque gust]

Has it been confirmed it’s this Friday or is this just speculation

[opaque gust]

Ohh ty

Does anyone know if Williams prefer stem or humanities applicants?

[brazen oyster]

they want both

they have a wide range of majors

and want a really diverse class

i havent noticed a preference tbh

[opaque gust]

That’s interesting I mostly hear of humanities majors applying

[brazen oyster]

i hear of the opposite

i see so manh math and physics majors apply and im like wtf

[opaque gust]

Oh yay that’s good bc I applied classics and I thought I would be at a disadvantage bc Williams has an over abundance of humanities people

[crisp stirrup]

sometimes feels like it is the opposite

[misty tree]

literally 😭.

[opaque gust]

I’m acc sad Williams didn’t have supp essays bc then at least u would’ve had a chance to explain yourself a bit more

[misty tree]

yes!! or even a question of why “williams”.

[opaque gust]

I didn’t do any research into Williams at all and just submitted my essay

And I just found out today it’s come out Friday and now I’m nervous 😭😭

[willow musk]

Where did you see this

[frail pike]

best not to obsess over it ;)

[frail pike]

and Econ (me) 💀

[gritty charm]

wait really???

where did u see this

[gritty charm]

i know last year was 17th, adjusted to this year it's 15th, but i dont think its confirmed anywhere yet right....?

[willow musk]

it's very possible that LAC day would be next week instead, given that it's radio silence so far?

[gritty charm]

possibly

do u know if they announce LAC day or are they like some UC's that jumpscare you

[brazen oyster]

im worried sbt this

[opaque gust]

No I don’t think it’s confirmed anywhere I always thought it was coming out April 1st

I didn’t hear abt the speculations until now 😭

[brazen oyster]

no annoucement

no email fo coubselors

no nothing

mayb it will come tomorrow

[gritty charm]

yea a website said its apr 1st but no way its that late

prob "By april 1st"

[brazen oyster]

it is hy april 1st

[gritty charm]

what does williams look for if all they look at is ur personal statement and a writing sample

grades??

[brazen oyster]

fit

so everything

the fact that they ask for only a writing aample makes sm sense for thwm

[gritty charm]

mhm

[opaque gust]

Is it true a big portion of Williams class is recruited athletes?

[brazen oyster]

yes

look at the williams 2028 page on insta lol

theyre all athletes

[boreal patio]

One of the schools that releases on LAC day, Haverford, announced their releasing on Friday

[brazen oyster]

the others have been soo silent tho

[tidal girder]

!williams

[misty tree]

yes sadly that’s why most athletes get in early decision 😭.

i noticed a trend that if your are really good athlete you get in, have high gpa and test scores you get in, and if you go to WOW you most likely get in. my chances aren’t that high, plus the acceptance rate is 9%. even if i have all the requirements i only have 9% of actually getting into williams.

[opaque gust]

Hmm interesting I’m praying they need more humanities students this year 😭

[tidal girder]

What’s wow

The latter comments you’ve made is kind of what colleges generally look for…

[misty tree]

to a certain extent..

[tidal girder]

Right…

[misty tree]

window on williams.

[tidal girder]

Never heard of that before, summer program?

[misty tree]

more like 2 days autumn program.

[fresh dust]

🐮

[brazen oyster]

any updates?

[boreal patio]

Still no official confirmation, but Richmond just confirmed they’re releasing Friday and they have released on LAC day in the past

[opaque gust]

Do they usually confirm the day before? Bc it’s looking like it’s not coming out this Friday 😔

[tame bridge]

Any intl who didn't submit the optional paper?

Me

[hearty shoal]

yeah me

[tame bridge]

& i need full aid😭
It's even more worrying cuz they dun hav any supplemental essays

& main essay has to carry all the weight.

[hollow oar]

whats their intl acceptance rate

😭

[tame bridge]

"Our international students are coming from more countries today than ever. And the acceptance rate for international students is around 5 percent, which is much lower than it is for domestic students."

This was in 2016

😭

From one of their articles
Def much lower now

[hollow oar]

gg

joever

tqqq

[tame bridge]

They do give lots of aid tho. Tht's the only silver lining.

[fresh dust]

they consider writing very important

[tame bridge]

yea but i really had nth to submit tho
& a lot did get in without submitting as per williams students on reddit

[fresh dust]

there are a lot who didn't too

haha

[tame bridge]

there was nth i could do anyway
just to hope for the best

[fresh dust]

they have ~2% intl acceptance rate

so it is joeover

🐮

[gritty charm]

real

[fresh dust]

but hey have cows

nobody can blame them

[tame bridge]

my best hope are williams, amherst n dartmouth

bec they are good with aid

[fresh dust]

that is some insane hope to keep ngl

where are you from

🐮

let's see

https://williamsrecord.com/465491/news/college-admits-249-out-of-record-breaking-1068-applicants-to-class-of-2028-through-early-decision/

[tame bridge]

I just wish for one acceptance. this week is gonna be critical.

[misty tree]

you ain’t lying 😭🙏🏽.

[opaque gust]

I wish they would just confirm it’s coming out Friday

[tranquil dagger]

real

[hearty shoal]

sameee

[hearty shoal]

hopefully email will be sent today or tomorrow

cause I can’t wait for the 22😭

[brazen oyster]

its so weird they havent put anytbing on their website

[tranquil dagger]

williams being weird af

their portal is so boring too

[main charm]

happened like twiceto me its normal for colleges to tell people their release date a day before

[misty tree]

or even day of, like auburn did last friday 😭.

[main charm]

actually happened 3 times

tulane didnt even give me a trigger warning

i woke up at like 4am to an email from tulane

i checked my notice letter and went back to sleep

[boreal patio]

Only my ED schools have told me when they were releasing decisions, I’ve had to check reddit on predicted days to know when they were out or just randomly got an email

[fresh dust]

I'm hoping that there being no withdraw application button means that it'll be soon

[brazen oyster]

they neverbhad a button

[fresh dust]

oh lmao

my hope is gone now

[crisp stirrup]

it should be Friday

they won’t announce it until tomorrow though

[brazen oyster]

OK 1st of WASP annoynced friday

williams may not be delayed

[brazen oyster]

rly?

[crisp stirrup]

from what I remember from last year

[sterile remnant]

LAC day is def the 15th since the majority of lacs decided to release on friday

[frail pike]

!!

[obtuse juniper]

do they usually release the decisions at the same time or does it vary?

[boreal patio]

Varies

Last year Williams released around 6 est

[sturdy rivet]

Amherst college and Wellesley too maybe?

[brazen oyster]

amherst yes but wellesley idk

wellelsey is usually on a saturday

[sterile remnant]

haverford and pomona too

[sturdy rivet]

Oh wow

[sturdy rivet]

Oh ok

[gilded river]

Does Williams release the same time as Pomona?

[sturdy rivet]

They haven’t released a day for Wellesley yet

[sturdy rivet]

Getting at least 2 rejections that day 😭 put in 0 effort for either of those schools

[boreal patio]

I could have 8 decisions on Friday, expecting 7 rejections 🔥

[main charm]

same W pfp by the way

is that from the final season in the "hello zuko here" episode

[gilded river]

it’s from the I’m about to celebrate being an only child episode lmfao

[boreal patio]

Yeah, the episode before ember island, where katara confronts her mother’s killer

I only know this because I just finished rewatching

[warm tapir]

this episode triggers my fight or flight and idk why

[main charm]

There is no ember island in ba sing se

[sturdy rivet]

Is March fifteen actually lac day confirmed

[fresh dust]

no but it is likely to happen that day

[sturdy rivet]

ok

[fresh dust]

where where did you apply ruby

In terms of LACs