#Princeton University (2023-2024)
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fair enough
what div for usaco are u in
Nah if u don’t enjoy u shoudlnt
bronze bc i discovered it this yr
word
Unless u mop it doesn’t mean much either
hm maybe
usamo means a decent amount tho
not even usamo qual??
i wouldnt sweat it tho
yeah ts fair
i got like a 120 on A and a 105 on B
yeah def
12 or 10
12
It’s already out
lowkey senioritis hit me midway this year so i answered and got my scores into the 100s and then just twiddled my thumbs💀
Oh ur JC?
yeahhh
and then on the B i guessed on all the problems i didnt answer
???
how is usamo floor alr out
ya
sry iwas tripping i meant pollack
yall should consider dual enrollment w/ harvard extension
literally every college ever takes their credits
fr?
It’s so much money tho
thats what i did for dual for linear and multi
3k a year
true true
Plus it’s not that good I have a friend doing it
i mean its more like 1.5k
He said like the linalg class is rlly boring not many proofs and just a bunch of garbage
my school payed for ours but we got it from a local cc
fair i hated linalg
linalg is the best
yall love math too much
Anyways good night lads, and as always
United >>> Tottenham
LOL
yeah i know it was mainly j the class
Tottenham smashed Newcastle
i use linalg for cs sometimes and i love it
Newcastle slapped united
screw u bruh tottenham on top
i lowkey hate the usaco approach to CS
sonny was a beast today
did u do proof based?
SON FROM TOTTENHAMMMMM
i like type theory and programming language design tho 💀
i suck at writing proofs tbh but theyre fun to do
anywho fr yall love math too much
jkjk but this is the most like kids ive ever seen that love math talking at once💀
been trying to get thru homotopy type theory recently
but i kinda need to get to topology first
do proof based its rly good
i will in college!
yeah like axler
(if i get in, HOPEFULLY)
mat 216/218
benq taking mat216/218 at princeton is insane lol
while being at MIT
wait why didnt he just do math 55 at harvard
thats lowkey less logistically nightmarish
me trolling harvard by self studying 55 💀
lmaooo
W
They haven’t announced yet so there isn’t one
Thanks
Hello people
the stress begins again
It's monday
yall can someone ping me when princeton releases the decision date
My display name has been Les for quite a long time.
sorry i didnt really notice
yahh
thx
grah
!columbia
Columbia University decisions come out <t:1702598400:F> in your local time
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almost two days to go

pton
pton
best school ever
ayyyy 💪
omgomgomgomg
what did i say lol
😡

nooooooo
Figures
😭
That’s messed up ngl
sorry guys 🤣
Wow
I believe email will come at 12:15 pm est
There is no better way to kick off the week than with a Tiger Takeover 🐅
Hi! My name is Katie Dailey (@kt.dailey), and I'm a senior in the School of Public and International Affairs (@princetonspia) and the journalism certificate program. I'm a Campus Visit Ambassador in the Office of Admission; a managing editor for @dailyprincetonian, Prince...
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Oh crap the decision day is out
IT IS???
Ur lying
WHERE
wait actually?
💀not this again
Uh I don't have the email
This is what the boy who cried wolf does 🤣
The email was made up
They were lying
Billert if you’re lying I’m sending seal team 6
good please shut down this accursed high school building
!columbia
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they defer a lot tho, no?
unless ur insanely cracked
hell lake got deferred from harv
Nah I think billert is cracked enough for the REA acceptance
If he’s not accepted then what does besides athletes
why tf did i waste my time on reaing here honestly
same
I didn’t have a choice because I didn’t really have any other EA schools in mind and only had time for 1 school
I shall make up for it in RD
i kinda wish i EAed more public schools
i submitted 4 schools ea but like
they all release their decision in jan so i have to wait
i thought i had a safety so imma just screw it
but
lol
nAh this is still crappy judgement on my behalf
im like
60% doing ed2 uchicago
omg same
i live in il and my sister goes there
and i j took a summer program there
i love it but gah my dreams of princeton 🥹
Yeah same
I think I’ll just straight shot ED2 chicago because it used to be my dream
Yes
If not that then the UCs or like my remaining RD schools
I decided to shoot high with the RDs because I have UCs alr
Didn’t the UC deadlines pass
Ah nice
uc apps sucked the soul out of me
that's a stretch but
holy crap their application portal is so tedious
did not enjoy filling it out at all
Yeah same
!columbia
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manifest
i'm surprised this gif actually exists
i'm putting that in my favorites heh
May every !Columbia in this channel become an acceptance for the people in this channel
now it exists
I just made it lol
the Columbia command has kept me alive these few days
it's so fire
what summer program
like ap re-college
yeah
i got a scholarship to attend tho so i didnt have to pay the horrendous $8k+ tuition
the tiger is so crazy to see
this is what to expect btw if u get in
they go absolutely crazy with the acceptance package
wait the pic had all my info 💀fuck
much better
Wait what do they mail you
no
all this
Damn that’s sick
The envelope for the legacy letter had the same tiger design that shows up on acceptance letters lol
are those stickers i see
i love stickers
i took at least 5 pens and 8 stickers when i visited campus
😂
my friend from the south flew to pton to visit again after being deferred
and handed in his loci to admissions in person even tho thats not liek allowed
and got in
thats the committment to pton they want fr
shoot it's already 10:45 have to go to school
boiiiii
Loci?
letter of continued interest
Ah
I’d give the flag to my counselor as a thanks for convincing me to apply
How did he get it through tho
Lowkey I would do this with penn
need
It did not come out at 12:15😭
i hope so
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Yeah it’s literally 2pm for them just announce it for real alr
When is the confirmed decision date
Hey, this comes from nowhere but do you get an acceptance email soon after the result is out on the portal
Idt u get an acceptance email
But u get an email notification of an update to ur app
Ty!! This is very important to me bc out of some reason I have to check my results 6 hours after it’s out and I don’t know what to expect
But I’m glad that it’s not a double heart attack
who does princeton think they are hiding decision date??? the number one university in the usa???
anyway
!columbia
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When does Princeton announce the date dawg
You see, they're just never releasing decisions
We're in purgatory now
A state of limbo beyond deferral or waitlisting yet still between acceptance and rejection
let us cook bro
yall better not overcook
not really
they’ll send like a welcome email eventually
How worried should I be about not receiving a request for a mid year grades?
lets just say that u were so good that they didnt care about ur grades
ask from them whether we got in ))
It really is a very pretty campus
agreed
bruh if decisions come out on thurs im gonna be at a movie premier thingy without my phone or computer until 9pm ugh im not gonna be able to focus at all
ikr you’re tied up between not wanting to get bothered by a potential rejection and not wanting to think about if it even is a rejection
It’s out
SAME
😭😭😭
Finally
120 heart rate
my phone font is so big so it only showed "you may view your early action decision online" and i was like WHAT???????????
Is there a way from the email to see if it’s acceptance or rejection?
No
It's just saying what time the decision is at
wtf
stop being nervous you're all going to get in
Real
i have let the mods know
Are you related to the other billert in any way
yes we know each other irl
the worst they can do is reject you and then you have the entire rest of the application season, you'll be fine
The best way to calm down a senior: "Don't worry, you still have the rest of the application season"
so true but i'm just hyperfixated on this decision rn lol
btw my brain is fried rn because i just took my diffeq final but when they say 12.5% of the class of 2027 is legacies, how close is that to the admit rate
no i'm being so real 💀
i didn't get into any of my T20s EA
@rose lava did you get in pton RD?
I don't imagine anyone knows the legacy admit rate
yeah I applied RD
ooh ok
@everyone 12/14 7pm ET
💀
oh wait you tagged everyone in this thread i thought it was the entire server for a sec
nvm
!princeton
Ahh shit
!princetonrea
!princetonea
typical a2c behavior
damn
just make your own countdown lol
not all of us do math billert
!princeton
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Y’all gotta chill for a minute while I make it lol
You know, all this talk about Princeton's EA date really makes me wonder

Princeton University SCEA decisions come out <t:1702598400:F> in your local time
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one more time when is it?
right above ur message
ok sorry it wasn't clear enough
Lol nah I can @ everyone in a thread to ping the entire thread which I’m only doing for decision related stuff

Bc it’s relevant
ye I didnt get pinged by this
I just opened this thread
seeing decision date pop up
just wanted to visint these tigers
o
:kannaping:
No way 3 AM my local tiem
!princeton
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i feel like boo boo
Glad there's a date! Good luck to all of you REA folks! Hope you all get in!
if yall get into princeton, here are some caption ideas for your instagram:
- me in my devi moment
- never have i ever... got into princeton
- princesston
All this talk about not needing !columbia is making me wonder
courtesy of my shower thughts
When is Columbia's decision date
Columbia University decisions come out Thursday, December 14, 2023 7:00 PM in your local time
7pm est
real
!princeton
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kdsjbshadcfghajgdcs
why does putting a date to it make it eerily realer????
real af
I absolutely love this
lol i was just like
home for next four 🫡
what
happy september
my getting into princeton caption was basically an essay, i only started mentioning it on my committment day post with my other schools so lol
pton is great and fun until you have to prepare for finals 😀
what classes do you even take actually
!princeton
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Dang
The reddit megathread says that "The Tiger Head on the admissions decisions means you got in"...Is that referring to the email we will get Thursday when they notify us that our status is updated?
nah the actual letter itself
it can be a jumpscare
ignore the text at bottom lol but it's similar to that
oh ok thanks
this is getting so real
I am imagining being attacked by Tony the Tiger as he says "You'rrrrre acceptd"
do we get free hoodies when we all inevitably get accepted\
except this mf muffin hamster
bro is not getting in 😭
tf did muffin hamster do 😭
Tony the Tiger helped cause the American obesity epidemic
idt someone like you can get into princeton...
What if I invented Tony the Tiger
And obesity
Can creating obesity be an EC
i doubt anyone can here but billert
im a lock tbh
who tf 😭
hi
nuh uh
I think billert is legacy
how tf do I have fans
Right
hes literally comp 😭
my great grandfather
was the prince of arabia
does that count as legacy
because yk
prince
princeton
who tf r u
your a scammer!!!
i have a confession to make
i kissed my admission officer
she's in my dms rn
i think im a lock
perhaps more than billert
someone make this into a speech bubble meme
it's not billbert thanks
billbert 💀
billert the type of mf to say its not billbert thanks
William Robert
prestigious ahh princeton ahh name
billert is cracked
Having two first names is a mandatory prerequisite to get accepted into Princeton
nah theres 2 💀
!billert
the glazing is crazy
THE GLAZING IS OUT OF CONTROL
My biggest EC is causing 2 seperate wars in the Middle East
Go to Yale then
I would count this as a legacy if I were an admissions officer. I'd aassume you had a ton of money and the name recognition could be good for the school
No I was just saying
You could be in good company
Both George Bushes went to Yale
nah im a tiger
pure blooded tiger
when i was born, they ran a dna test on me
and all they found
was tiger dna
This vexes me
My mom fcked a tiger
💀
This still implies that your mom was also a tiger
glazing is wild
S tier glaze 💀💀💀
i glazed my admissions officer so hard last night
Using the term "glaze" outside of a Krispy Kreme is wild in and of itself
yo when i get into princeton
can we crowdfund
my tuition
since we all bffs
and all
Columbia recently sent me mail
This makes me wonder
When is Princeton's EA date
!princeton
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will i get in if my 1st ec is discord
My interview (RD) is tomorrow. My interviewer graduated from Princeton in the early 80's and appears to have little to no social media footprint.
atp it holds 0 admissions value
wouldnt sweat it at all
perhaps theyre an eating club alumni?
check that out
Yeah, I'm not too worried, because I've already done a shit ton of interviews for other applications, but I'd still like a heads up.
They are coming to the Starbucks near my school between class ending and a basketball game lol. I have not yet had to do an interview in a public place
Should be fun
mine seemed lowkey indifferent to his idk but he still had a lot to say
mine still lives in princeton
What on earth is an eating club
10k per year club with eating areas
quite literally
For social connections
mine literally was my neighbor so that was funny
lmfao
Finaid increases during junior and senior year to allow aided students to go to eating clubs
Based fin aid department
But idc about eating clubs unless I get in
Then I’d put thought into it
Like a fraternity or sorority but no greek letters
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I can't help but be startled at this Klan-level naming convention
2 days dawg
bickering means arguing in british english iirc
I’m gonna shit myself
hello
big brotherandon is watching
True
can being obese be an EC
hard to say
honestly i'd say the same as rd
acc to https://paw.princeton.edu/, "Recruited athletes comprise 16.2 percent of the class, children of alumni 14.1 percent, and international students 10.8 percent"
rea acc is about 15 compared to rd's 6
when did u apply?
ik it doesn't count
do the interviews matter? unless you crash and burn, how much do you think theyre considered in ur app
not that heavily compared to other data
oh dang this is more than i thought
you'll be fine
that's bc of the recruited athletes, donor, and legacy tho tbh
so its prob around the same as rd
yeah no for sure but i still expected lower lol
Can you put the link exactly for the statistics and not a general website
They definitely have statistics for the class of 2027 somewhere
on the admissions website I think
yeah sry i just skimmed ggl
Thanks ! 🙏
prob but no way theyd put legacy % right onto their main site
okay so if we find the number of people who get into rea as a proportion of the total class
and assume all recruits and legacy get in rea
we have our adjusted acceptance rate
but its 2019 data
27,290 total applicatns for 2019
that rea practices didnt change much from 2019 to 2023
the decision will be out in like 71 hours just be patient lol
billert ur a lock
ong he is
ok so in 2019 1,895 kids were accepted total
is that a hook
!princeton
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Sheesh
2 fucking days dawg
i applied to harvard REA, but i really regret it 🥲
Berkeley had a way like that?
yea apparently if applicants tried to log in to like Calnet they saw diff things
What’s this whole thing about a tiger on the letter head if u get accepted, and no Tiger on the letter if u get def/rejected…any1 got a sample letter?
yeah on the decisions letter
Basically on the decision before reading shit if you see a tiger you got in
On the letter itself
If no letter no acceptance
im on my knees tryna see a tiger maul me on the decision letter
Same broski
Need that tiger to come face to face with me
here's the difference
alright so i got nervous and want to figure out how this works to calm down, can someone check my math? I used these sites: https://toptieradmissions.com/resources/college-acceptance-rates/princeton-admissions-stats-acceptance-rates/ and https://paw.princeton.edu/article/large-rise-student-yield#:~:text=Close to half the class,and international students 10.8 percent. for the stats...so if athlete recuition is about 16.2 %and alumni children are about 14.1 % of the acc class, then there were about a total of about 394 total students who were either athletes or legacy who applied rea and got in. To simplify things, I'm gonna assume they got in bc of their legacy/altheticism, which I know isn't true but for the sake of the equation, we can just remove them from the equation so the rea stat of 767 acc/3850 applicants becomes 373/3456, which is about 11%...(thats assuming everyone who applied rea became part of the class) so,
we have an 11% acc chance rea, crudely accounting for legacy and athlete recruit?
you have to remove a good chunk of that for questbridge
Maybe but there are more competitive applicants in REA
also yeah questbridge
shoot how does questbridge pan into this
considering colleges accepted 500 more matches this year
mit made up for 1/8 of the increase
also
this is for 2019 cause that was when the ahtlete and legacy data was availible
jumping from ~10 to ~50
3456 is not the totall people who get in right?
no its ppl who applied rea
i believe questbridge statistics are lumped into this
as many colleges do with their ea/ed/rea
ii think back then its proven to be wrong
How many do they waitlist from REA
its defer not waitlist
bad point tho if you got deferred then rejected
unless ur talking abt defer --> waitlist
no waitlist for REA?
waiting so long for what
nope, you get reviewed again and are placed in the rd pool
Noted
so it’s either yes, no, defer
https://www.koppelmangroup.com/blog/2023/3/30/what-to-do-if-youre-waitlisted-by-princeton-2023#:~:text=Data shows that Princeton waitlists,eventually accepted in recent history. 800 agree to the waitlist and 16% of the 800 get yes
yeah
but that percent varies alot year by year
How do you get off the waitlist?
By quality or random?
not random
If u r straight up not considering the legacy shouldn’t u also minus the legacy who applied from the denominators which like makes the rate higher?
I’d expect it not to be
why is it called princeton
you take someone elses spot basically, if one of the accept students say no i think you replace them essentially
i'm starting to get grip of reality and now i think i def gon be rejected
or deferred at best
same
im reallyyyy hoping for an acceptance
the only "silver lining" i could say about the waitlist is that princeton often loses in cross admittance to the rest of hypsm
but why tho
idk its just a trend
i thought i had a chance but rounding the corner to this week is making everything too real
True
ur fine its undergrad
same
its better to come to a gradual understanding than being surprised
cheeel peelll
come to peace with the worst
if they ignore my sneaky lil typo in my activity section and i dont get autorejected cuz of my gpa i think i have a decent chance
you won't feel too bad on thursday/friday
i hate myself istg
can't wait to see that "we wish you the best in your future endeavors"
we regret to inform you
but like its still quite sweet
"this is no attack on your person/character
the admissions committee has completed its early action deliberations and has deferred a decision on your application
it iS tho
https://ivyhub.org/rejection-simulators/princeton/ help yourselves
honestly focus on rd it will make princeton decisions less impactful
if it turns out bad
the thing is i caN't
but if it turns out good im not doing rd
damn
exactly
i was in your situation but literally
the senioritis is kicking in but i havent gotten accepted yet
just try startng
esp i alr have a safety
go for it
oh damn i haven't yet
so it just like makes me even lazier
exactly like its ok im going somewhere
gj tho
iowa state wants me lmaooo
i just want to come to murica dawg
guys im gonna be so happy for whoever gets in, like i dont think i could even feel any jelousy bc we all suffereed thru those supplementals and if u got acc u def deserve it
yeah 😭
ill be very happy if any of u got in
i mean cmon
ayo what
Columbia University decisions come out <t:1702598400:F> in your local time
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!columbia get your ass here
Columbia University decisions come out <t:1702598400:F> in your local time
2 days, 21 hours and 56 minutes until the decision date
LMAO
jinx

@tough eagle ik a james at princeton
RU RAHHHHH
james isnt my real name unfortunately[
oh i already got my newark decision
🔥
i didn't apply there cuz it was commuter school
oh damn i applied just cuz i had a free spot
nb ftw tho
Bro no jealousy just admiration honestly
ur right
good catch
im gonna be 🥺 if u guys get in
i thought i did, no?
They’re done?
valid
okay so are there any questbridge statistics for 2019
tbh a 11% acceptance rate is more reassuring
yall this math is calming my nerves
true, it was 4 years ago tho, and now there are 5k early applications
Oh ok ok
so....its prob closer to <10 now
Its kinda sus tho.. 11%
sat scores are really just to see
1.) if you meet institutional standards (generally past 1500)
2.) how it compares to you classmates
its def lower
if ur from dallas ur not gonna be compared to some kid in seattle
Yea
its more to control for difference in level between rea and rd
fuck man the other guy in my schools thats applying to pton has a 1580 and i have a 1530
I mean also that the rea applications r generally better than those applied rd
^
that's not a big difference
imo
So 11% makes sense ig
i have a 1590 and the other ppl have like 1520 or lower
Shit i dont have 1590
honestly as long as you're past 1500 there's no need to worry abt ur sat
but like idt it matters tbh
its only used to see if your application is worth the read
fuckk i wish u were wrong
no cause they prob had just as good stats, just the amt of rea applications this yr is like 30% larger than 2019
princeton didnt request my mp1 grades
and the amt of spots r staying the same
I wonder how they’ll assess me since no one has ever applied to princeton in my school
no?
but they also requested 0 ppl applying from my school this year
and they usually accept 1-2
I've heard that this is not indicative of your chances, but I could be wrong.
so i think it might just be every1 had 3.9+ w/o any trends so they didnt care
yeah
how much?
no shot
this is too real
hm that still sucks
How do u k
Looking at past statistics, it seems to be close to 50%. I don't know how much it's changed in the past 4 years, but I'd assume it couldn't have changed an extremely significant amount.
Then they’ll prob accept more than 125
The Class of 2026 was set to be the first larger class, 125 students bigger than the Class of 2025, with each class matching its size until the student body increased by 500 students in the aftermath of Princeton adding two new residential colleges.Sep 21, 2023
so its actually not even bigger
Bc they will count those who might not come I think

The Class of 2027 is the second in a four-year expansion that will increase Princeton’s undergraduate student body by 500 students. The enrollment increase, paired with Princeton’s generous, no-loan financial aid program, will ensure that more talented students from all backgrounds and sectors of society have access to a Princeton education.
wait nvm
i think it might be 125
"1500 students joined the class, over 150 more than the Class of 2025 and 75 higher than the University's projection" wym higher than your projection you get to control how many are in the class
dayum
Good on u guys
mine sends 1-2 at most lol
yea idk how
wow 7 kids thats crazy
from a class of 160 too
ru at a private
public
we had a few go to harvard last yr, they all got rejected from pton
but now its like 1-2
do nj kids get an advantage
but a cracked public
yeah slightly
honestly its cuz theres more applications from nj
i saw my admissions officer
yea
than for other top schools
i met mine she is so nice
also cuz princeton admits hella kids from princeton
fuck im like 10 minutes away from princeton
they literally have an ao for phs 💀
they have their own ao for princeton high school
im 30 mins away ? idk
Damn
How many kids from phs usually get in?
hella
a lot
Woah
More than 10?
u could check the high school page
yea prolly
i'd say 20-30 range
jesus
welp
imagine if phs had some sort of dual credit with pton
its normal for unis to usually have more ppl in the same area right?
thatd be so cool
they do 💀
ohmygod ofc
all schools in nj do?
no just pton because of course
i was finna be in that for cs till they ran out of space
we cant win
im not salty tho 😄 😐
i mean thats how life is
im getting in
no its not
like america manifested destiny
idt
like 30% deferall rate
i swear every1 gets deferred
at least since last year
on my knees to get accepted
bro its literally for one area
that's a lot of extrapolation
i'd kiss my ao if that means getting in
bro but still
I thought the deferaal rate was >50 %?
^
app they had enough qualified kids to fill 2 classes
i mean not according to cc
cc 😂
Cc unreliable af
i've seen a lot of ppl get defer --> accepted
CC is ur dad and granddad
for all we know it could be a shit poster
even some of my friends did last yr
W
then who
bro gave us his legacy
How much does legacy actually matter?
idk
a ton
ive seen on cds that its considered, but not nearly to the level as everything else
a whopping 14.1% of 2019's class was legacy
everything matters in such a competitive process so
its literally just if u have enough of a gpa and sat
damn
ur locked
valid
you sound like an intellectual
"yeah maybe i am" 🤓
no bc so many other ppl are qualifieed also
yeah but ur legacy
ohh yeah if ur qualified and ur legacy its game over for everyone else
welp
its over.
fuck billert
what have yall been up to wtf
erm dont forget about athletes ☝️ 🤓
speak of the devil
athletes deserve it tho
wait actually true
💀
athletes have my utmost respect if ur qualified and u can maintain a sport at the state qualifying level like ur god and i worship u
No portal astrology
i love u.
luv u too
thing is, i dont like athletes in "irrelevant sports" being treated so much better than like star musicians
cuz its same effort and ur not rlly bringing the big bucks that star qbs be bringing ykwim
i digress 🤓
what pisses you off more: that or legacy?
i am just one applicant in a pool of 35k
legacy
i think pton emphasizes musicians lowkey, i visited campus and they have a building full of steinways, their dance program is huge too
