#University of Pennsylvania (UPenn) (2023-2024)
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nah i just changed it because bertha kept calling me it
dartmputh has very unique essays
cant seem to get to the crux of it
does it tho? it took me 30 minutes
peer rec is so interesting
last one - copy/paste stanford inspiration essay
second one - copy/paste diversity essay
first one - the rest of the 30 minutes
yeah idk the school will be lucky to have me come now
did billert write ur lor
did u end up eding to columbia or sticking to rea to stanny
im not even gonna bother spending more time on that app
for something else yes
stanny
ur in good hands
if i had legacy i would take the chance too lol
chance as in chance over a likely columbia acceptance
do yk billert in person lol
no way right?
nah
we follow each other on linkedin though
yeah i was gonna say peer rec should be in person
it was for something else and all of my irls were busy at the time
but i really dont care for dartmouth now
which essay do u feel you've copied the most?
im not gonna go out of my way to get a peer rec
i have like 2 iterations of my community essay
100% diversity
interesting
2nd is why major for me
then id say the stanford intellectual experience one
how quirky was urs
My Rice Why Major got copied and twekead for yale tbh
its more logical than quirky id argue
ngl bruh some of these colleges have long ass applications for no reason
brown 😭
Hi guys
8 essays + a video essay
How's pennst
Wtf
who does brown think they are
Ugh I might cancel december SAT and go TO, I have like 10 IGCSE Tests that I'm submitting anyways i hate the SAT
bro my girl sent me her brown video
NO
its so fucking good
wrong channel but whatever
One of the best schools in the world
im the most uncreative person my video woulda sucked ass
if im applying to brown im applying to washu too because they have a video
i think its cute
Oh
Bro thinks brown is cute
if she gets in
im stuck on harvards intellectual experience prompt
send me her contact info
my dad straight up told me indirectly "brown is trash for engineering it should be ur last choice"
wait
LOL why would i
Hahaha not gf but basically
it is
you ed to the best school ever
🤔
with kids who are kind and clever?
Hmm I should write my penn supps
u collecting the 8 ivies?
i got commitment issues
not what i meant
o
LMFAO
i meant what hash is doing
thgats funny
Oh
its still an ivy dawg
I don’t know what hash is doing
id do that lol
collecting the 8 ivies
@gray pasture which ivies are u applying to
yea
polygamy?
yale, penn, colum, brown, maybe cornell
sleeping
you?
i have been summoned
goddamn i just realiezd this name looks cringe af
so does this sword
changing my name back
i like the sword personally
yikes
original plan was all, but now prolly gonna cut princeton and brown maybe darty so 5-7
i hope this looks less ragebaity to my eyes
cut darty yes
the brown sword is cute
wdym
but its good for ib
ib?
theres so many
international business?
investment banking
thats why u love columbia
you'll be fine in whatever u want if u go to princeton
that makes sense
nah i love columbia cuz i visited
except sanity
and the campus is good
you'll catch me in the ivy club at princeton
and i actually like the core curriculum (im prolly the only one) 😭
sometimes i like it
i feel like brown is a bit too unstructured
i love columbia
are u applying to all 8
i hate the core curriculum
no cornell?
but i love columbia
nah
Harvard and princeton just dont do it for me
how many schools total
13
same
yeah i dont like harvard
yale sucks for ib
ive only spent 180 on college applications and i dont plan to spend more
i like it the most i think
yeah yale is my favorite ivy
i like penn/columbia the most
well its between that and my safeties
ive spent like $600 😦
then columbia/penn are tied imo
wait
theyre cute and give me cash
i need to count
if i get into columbia ill do business management
yale brown sucks ass relative to the other 6
or at least apply for it
if i count i'll cry so i wont do it
relative to...but yale is still yale lmao and im not hard set completely on ib
middest school
man i hope i get columbia my DE creds transfer i cant fuck it up
if you got in you wouldnt be saying that
nah i would
i like yale as a school more than stanford but its too far away from home 😭
what were your other choices
they wont
the location while nice is too close to home
thats one thing they stressed at EPC
it was between penn and williams for me, realistically
think i can repurpose the structure of my why yale for penn community essay godbless 🤭
gotcha
but i also had CUNYs and stuff
$580 😦
the thing is my cc has a contract with columbia where any classes i take outside of hs curriculum they can transfer to general studies
nah
not sure how true that is
god i could uber 4 a year
on app fees
i am about to count please dont flame me
oh you'd have to apply to general studies
ik a kid who did that
Princeton best ivy unironically
i spent like 1k on app fees
he graduated with his associates and then went for general studies
i have 2 fee waivers so ima discout them
middest
ye thats me but id wanna be doing econ there yk
i have fee waivers to every school besides stanford yale and UW
not gs 💀
oh right i have a fee waiver to columbia
how
my fee waiver to columbia means i gotta apply
epc
you can do econ there
EPC bby
my epc is full pay
no
nah
like fly in?
which school
GS offers the same degrees as CC
GS FA dogwater
sorry yall right
there was a millionaire who went there im pretty sure
i didnt know that kinda cool then
they just went for the most qualified kids with diverse experiences i think
how do i find my epc?
im better at writing essays now i coulda eaten them up
wtf is an epc and efc
epc is the columbia
ugh did u do the penn community from scratch
$1730 is crazy
yes
efc is estimated financial contribution
yes
EPC was the columbia fly in
ohh ok
that was with 23 schools but im acc applying to like 18-19 and didnt include the fee waivers so lemme recalc rq
dg told me it wasnt unique enough so i restarted
how did u all get columbia fly in
rip
im first gen but now low income
we didnt
we didnt lmao
u get a waiver for applying
but we got a fee waiver
oh wtf
they just gave the waiver to anyone applying
i havent looked at my commonapp or supps since nov 1
i should finetune yale and start penn
1395 @faint badger
still crazy
will prolly end up being 1200 or less after im done cutting
yeah im not spending any more unless i have to
Im submitting tests, just not the SAT i wanna cancel i hate them so much
shit i forgot about SAT score send costs
i have to pay to send the CSS profile my heart hurts so bad
pay for the sat or the app
i got a waiver for css
colleges i didnt get fee waivers for
u have to pay to send css?!?!
ye some ppl do
it sounds dumb, doesnt it
wasted 16 for rice
i got css fee waiver
🙂
they dont do CSS right
@hybrid skiff
i was apart of a college access organization
ah ok
and most schools offer a fee waiver for them
they do
huh, why was it a waste?
so what im learning is that i have no intellectual experiences to talk ab for harvard
and theres a couple other conditions
me w columbia
didnt u apply to stanny?
has anyone done the columbia supps yet
no
im not applying
bro its so hard for me to start
yes
yea i did
nooo
rip
70% done
im not applying
i did why us first
is stanny good for ib
hardest and got over with it
are u doing ib kirk
yes
copy paste?
its good but fire for vc and fintech
and management maybe idk
probs PE
idk anything abt stanny
i really have to finetune my columbia essays
i dont have a diversity essay yet for my umich one i j wrote about a specific community i was in
need to figure that one out eventually
use uva diversity
nope, i made it up for columbia specifcally
whats that
u need to be the top of ur class to crack PE outta undergrad
same bro
We should go to #🛩-lounge-chat
im not applying to uva
oh
🤣
its the classic diversity
Yeah, Ik no one is asking questions rn but it feels like cluttering
inflating penns leaderboard rank
lmfao
talk about demonstrated interest
when penn passes yale in us news next yr
i cant its the end of an era
im cringing at my uva connection response
i need rw to nudge up a bit
and my last sentence of my uva essay
"This is something that I'll bring to every aspect of my time at UVA from class to clubs to my time as a Hoo impacting my community and the world."
u know uva alum?
LMAO BRO SAID HOO
lmao i thought you wrote Hoe
as a hoo
my cuzzo goes there
wouldve been iconic
what is a hoo
is there a reason u applied uva with ut instate?
does uva do ea
jefferson scholly
ye
nominated?
yes
what is a hoo
nice
i was born in the uva hospital
my school doesnt do it
did u put that in ur essay
100%
ohh the legacy one
thats made ofr u bro
crazy
what better connection to have than i was born there
😭
oh
torchy's taco?
im getting
its fire
auto rejected
Columbia didn’t gaf that I went to their elementary middle school 😢😢😢
its so good
oh yeah i get those
yum yum
sometimes
its a mid school anyways
how rude of them
have u tried velvet
penn better
i dont go there often
its all i could think of too
how many tests r u guys submitting?
1 sat
cousins coming down here
just all my AP ones
and trying torchys
no AP/IB?
and me searching up where torchys was in virginia
and the only location
was in charlottesville
how many is that? mine's around 10 -- not AP though
im not sure
like 15
I forgot IGCSE counts as a test and had to add it
whats igcse
my TO brother in christ 🫂
International General Certificate of Secondary Education -- British curriculum BS
u live in england
No
ahoi matey
thats australia i think
whyd u take
had to
may i ask why
ex school followed brit curric
great
college gonna be confused af
domestic submitting igcse
or is that not rare
i j havent heard of it
cap
Princeton L town 💀
im applying to darty now!
y
i wanna get a peer rec
upenn got:
-better location
-better campus
-better parties
-better professors
-better majors
-better school traditions
-better history
-better colors
-better emblem
I’m not reading all this
but it sounds like cope
average princeton student can’t read a few bullet points
nicest penn applicant
clown on clown violence
and a third one joins the circus
i’m not a clown
UPenn is just a state school
🙄
Sophomore ass
Lol pretty sure that @tame socket is Harvard?
luck has been a student for every ivy it seems like 💀
same
Y’all have some shit opinions
Ivys aren’t even THAT good in terms of pure education
The only reason y’all are sucking dick to like Princeton is cuz of prestige. Princeton fell off since 20 years back
anyway the career options matter more for certain fields imo
Like law maybe yeah
For CS as long as you can do the stuff to companies they don’t care what college you went to
for plenty of jobs in law, business, finance, etc
not really true for the first job

Not true
My friend from a very bum state school in Texas got a job at Msft lol
anecdotal
Okay but ik many people from lower ranked schools who did good whereas many ppl from CMU/Berk/etc who can’t land an offer
Idt it matters thag much for cs
Helps orc
*ofc
there was also a guy named harry truman who never completed any undergraduate education and still became president, that doesn't mean that it's the best path to take 💀
okay i can't speak for cs in specific but
i'm sure they have some advantage going to cmu/cal as long as they can put in the work
Ofc but it’s pretty minimal for cs
thats still anecdotal 
for cs, going to a good school will get u interviews, one of the hardest steps of cs recruiting
fax all i need is a ball state degree
maybe not u ur a freshman u little shit
Well in that case idk where to get objective info from lmao
Fair enough maybe my community of people r just word
*weird
me with uchi
princeton fell off 20 years ago brother you weren’t born then
working hard matters more than college neither of my parents went to school in the us and they were able to work they way up to getting stable, decent paying jobs
literally same and last night's update does not help
ugh ikr
For programs like viper and m&t etc do you know if the specific programs read the engineering essays as well?
ye programs get your full application
he going to yale
That’s BYU
The real question is who are the offerers
LMFAOOOAO
Have u been to a Penn football game
Colorado, Arizona, Oregon state, Wisconsin, vandy, Louisville, unc, uiuc, Houston, umami, Georgia tech, Virginia tech, Pitt, Duke, Rutgers, Yale, and UConn
byu not yale
Nah not yet
ivy league football seems lame
Wait how is he transferring as a senior
Athletes do this all the time
Like the cavinder twins
One of them used their last year of eligibility to transfer to tcu from Miami
W kayak
Wat I do
helped
You would be dead without me that’s true
KAYK FAN??
HOW MUCH DID I HELP HELLO?
Savoring this
its was 99% me
but ill appreciate the effort u put in
They would have to doxx themselves for us
yeah so don’t put at all 🥶
i mean like you can but i wouldn't recommend
nothing…
ive done it for a couple ppl already lmao
what does the name thing even do
Legit nothing
do they like tell the students good job advertising
Unless they're dad/mom
they should pay you
Or someone with real value t the uni
names is prolly just to dissuade people from lying
Not a bottom feeder like emre
i own this school & i own u
u wanna be me lil buddy
u came out of my weiner
rats there goes my other one
@bold onyx why do you hate poor gege😢
Huh💀💀
gege a bitch
Noooo
Living a life of luxury none of you would ever understand
never forget september 20th
hey i mean this could be completely factual there's no reason for it to be false
lol
i saw real coconuts rhis week 😴
MAPPA and Gege both bitches
If im working at MAPPA im not quitting
IM WORKING those horrible conditions to pump out peak content
ohhh that's what it is i thought it was a decaying half-peeled orange
Me too mf I’m fucking eatig one
nah mappa cooking
oh facts nvm
NAAAH that's crazy
LOL
MAPPA employees would never make it in ib
On me
send some goldman analysts over
theyre already good at making power points
is that a thing 😭
But hey atleast itadori is protected by plot armor!
(watch him die next week)
itadori clears
ryan u little shit head why didnt u watch the tiktoks i sent u
Ew
dms
oh tiktok shop codes
i forgot i have u on tiktok lmao
off tiktok shop?
its a fire deal
i mean it doesnt rly matter
ye
creatine the source doesnt matter
expensive creatine is just micronized more (it's easier to dissolve)
im listening to this theory while brushing my teeth @bold onyx
ye but its like 100 servings for $10
thats like normal creatine prices
i feel like im gonna be taking cremated horse ashes
is it
wait lemme recheck this
and ur daily amount is only 5g
so u can imagine how many servings u get out of a half pound bag
shit yea this is lowkey a mid deal lmao
nah
its good
10 dollars is still cheap
10 dollars for 100 servings is good
ekkovision is a good brand too
i would buy it
It’s how I have energy to go to the gym.
(Sadly)
looks like too much energy 💀
jesus
How many people are submitting their resumes?
does it matter
i might submit my dyson one with wharton 
idk if they even look at ir not
ye dec 14 or dec 15
Really?
i mean dont get me wrong but
Then what's the point of making it an option 😭
from wht ive understood
most of the times they don't look at it
somtimes they do tho
so dont discount it completely
Interesting 🫠
did anyone have an extremely late LOR submission?
my counselor submitted the school report on 11/3 but the LOR on 11/14
worried because while the counselor letter is not mandatory, mine had important information
not a problem
3 days isnt extremely late lol
Read the 2nd date 😭
upennnnnnn pls accept me 💕💕
This is the only school where jm not gonna submit until the day of the deadline and take a lot of time to work on the supps
Love this school honestly
if you dont get in none of us have hope
i did ED but i wish upenn wasn’t my first school for everything
i think i could have done better 😔
wdym
nah ciwan is just too cracked bro
How do you get better than UPenn lol
i mean you could still get deferred and apply
hope isnt lost
it was my first school for supps and interview. i am happy with what i wrote but i do think doing other schools first would have given me much needed experience.
oh i feel u
@open slate what are your stats
i’m just on insane levels of hopium right now
by having insane awards
not stats
my stanford interview went well but i didnt include the things i shouldve
What’s an example
~4.6 weighted gpa, 1560 sat
isef
I will not 💀
same a bit
mf u did PEEP
I don’t know what that is
yeah 💀
My best award rn is an iGem gold medal
I did ED too
I had that worry but that was a weird concern lol I decided not to apply ED bc of doubts
i think the more schools i apply to the better i get at it so i wish i had more experience before doing penn
it rlly is my number 1 tho
peep retention rate is like ~80% no?
Not enough to get in lol probably no boost for RD
upenn is my top choice so if i didn’t ed i wouldn’t have any other school to ed to
i had to ed
Yeah I wasn’t considering ED anywhere else but Penn
columbia/dartmouth pretty much said that if they liked our app once they'll probably like it again, i dont see why penn would be any different
It must be nice to be committed to a school early tho if u get in and be done with college apps
Really wow
yeah
bigger app pool
its not 80%
i have too much hopium idk how to feel about upenn
plus ur competing regionally
michelle was saying at peep the AR was lower than the actual school
atl thats what they said
im not too sure though i just think u should be hopeful nancy 😭
What’s the different between PEEP and PIF
idk what either of those are
PEEP is for ppl 150+ miles away while PIF is 150 miles <
peep is entirely virtual and free
They’re like UPenn stuff idk
pif costs money for transportation and is easier to get into since theres a smaller applicant pool
Gotcha
You’re not
did you apply?
You had to apply to their fly in program and get accepted
is it just classifying applicants as close or far
Lol but who read the apps? AO’s or?
No
fuck that
yeah the admissions office
fuck fly ins!!!
And who can be hopeful they’re ivies 😭
thats true 😭
Idt I’ll get into any of my EA’s lol
i mean it definitely means you're on the right path tho
if you get in you're definitely a qualified applicant
yeah maybe to someplace
to their school lmao 😭
Haha but anyone who thinks they’ll get into ivies automatically needs a reality check fr
Unless they’re Biden’s grandchildren
rsi kids dont tbh
Yo no cap here’s the thing
ik this one rsi kid just applied to 5 schools with no safeties and got into all
Crazy
PEEP specifies they like rural students
But I am close enough to apply to PIF
So now I am torn hmm
If u meet pifs requirements u should apply
Ohh ok
this is definitely anecdotal and take it with a grain of salt
Yeah I mean I am First gen
But I reccomend u apply!!! Super easy app for prep at least and sessions were very interesting
Upper middle class?
i got into 2 ivy ones as upper middle class, they're just looking for diverse perspectives
ultimately if you have a unique perspective and competitive profile they'll let you come
Yeah
JW did u advance in coke scholars or gates?
I definitely think so
ik there was a first gen millionaire who went to columbia's
i didnt put enough hours + not eligible for gates
Talking about the fly in
you definitely have a shot though
Oh forgot gates had that req
I am a first gen, rural homeschooler but we are secular.
also dont feel bad either, you're not "taking spots" away from anyone who deserves it because of ur income, if they let u in then ur qualified
That’s good
Why does being secular matter ?
thats one thing i see a lot
Huh ?
you could have a shot with that background
A lot of people assume homeschooling means you are being taught all of your classes by a controlling Christian mom, and so I just want to make a distinction that’s not true for me.
yeah he definitely does
make sure to apply
ill remind u next year
they're some of the best programs to do for diverse applicants ever imo
Apply to any programs that catch your eye
Do other colleges have programs like these
im grateful for the opportunity and the friends i got to meet to go to mine
YES
columbia has STARS, specifically for rural students
dartmouth has dartmouth bound
MIT has MIT Wise
Hey I’m a rural student
Mit, swarthmore, JHU kinda, haverford, Pomona, Scripps,
Wdym by kinda
williams has one too (~99% of applicants get accepted into the school)
They’d pay for your transport
I wouldn’t need that to JHU
yeah fly ins are free theyll fly you out and even give you a taxi if you need it
yesss
Can you just drive?
That’s crazy
Ugh I need to get my supps done
But like say my mom were to drive me
Ciao
Would they pay for that
Same got 15 RD
holy shotgun
That’s fine lol
Got 9, might add more reaches if I find any I like
lol kinda shooting for the stars cause I’m fine with going to my state school
works out
How many RD DB
im honestly thinking of just applying to like 7 schools
9 is a good number 😭
🤓 rip
rishab jain lmao
ik this other rsi kid who applied to 2 schools and got in both 💀
harvard and massivetech
ahhhh
too funny
i get the reference now
yeah my friend did PIF last year and got in ED
does penn ED come out the 15th?
no
Why
cuz theyre only looking for a select demographic
the criteria is different
Would they be looking for the same demographic in the actual app even if it’s not as limited?
Like do people of the demographics they look for have an advantage
i mean those are gonna be some of their most competitive "hooked" applicants so yes
but not getting into the program isnt indicative of anything
What does Hooked mean
like urm and fgli
Is regular first gen (not low income) still a hook
At Penn yes
And many schools
Dub
Wait what’s first gen again
First Gen to US Unis or just uni in general
yes
yes
Depends on the school
Usually unis in general
But some don’t count ones abroad
most places it is just decided by whether your parents have bachelors degrees or not i think
How is that a “hook” what do you mean
Arent a lot of applicants first gen / low income or nah
i imagine since they count children of immigrants as first gen there's a crap ton of first gens
but it's still helpful
probably not super helpful
but a tad
Yeah but it still helps
It’s a quality Penn explicitly looks at
When I requested my admissions file, it included info like thy
That*
Immigration status is irrelevant
I’m a third generation American but a first generation college student
i mean they count first gen if your parents didn't get a bachelor's degree in the us
W
Spill some more sauce
Do they care about interview reports
Where would I put that info
no
first gen status is shown under parents education
income is inferred
No not this year
Wym inferred
Lots of info indicates income level
Like they just assume if ur low income or not?
they look at a couple things
Like what
High school, zip code, etc
yea kinda, but its very accurate lol
parents jobs
Oh that’s true
that kinda stuff
Oh good
so they're need-aware but they don't use financial aid profile to figure that out
Uh
penn is need blind
Not need aware per se because it doesn’t hurt you to be broke
My parents job titles are very bad 👍
My prents haven’t even finished middle school lol
But yeah they consider your income to assess your strength
they wont care if ur low income vs just below full pay
A broke applicant has less opportunities than a rich one
ohhh makes sense
Same 😭 they only finished grade school
Cause they said back in their home country most people finish grade school and move out and start working
in Vietnam tho after saigon got bombed
Damn
same tbh!
RSI is RSI 💀
Wait they do
I'm an immigrant and my parents earned thier master's in another country
I'm still a first gen?
Oh wow
Does that matter a lot or is it just a minor boost
It’s not really easily quantified but it’s a boost
I’ve been told it helped me lol
Wow
so the way someone got a bachelors doesnt matter right?
Is it like an actual boost or is it just that the AOs take that in mind while checking the app
like for ex my mom went to community college and then transferred then transferred again (lol) and her bachelors took her like 10 years
Prob some combination of both
Oh so how do I find which one that does this
Which one does Pencil go by
Look at individual websites and see what specific colleges say
Penn just counts US degrees
Hmm I see btw what's a hook? Anything that boosts your chances?
Yeah it’s a quality colleges explicitly look for
First gen, legacy, low income, recruited athlete, URM in past years, etc
Huh so I've seen lgbt as a hook in chancemes and a2c... How's that a hook
Oh
It isn’t a hook at most schools though Penn does consider it
This is my Reddit post
got it haha
But yeah this is a good idea of what Penn considers
lgbtqa and phl are most interesting
Penn def puts priority on people from Philly
If I claim I'm gay only for the application, will I be in trouble
So many kids from the same three Philly high schools lol
ur not gonna do that lol
I mean no but like it’s likely not a very meaningful boost
You never know
Especially since iirc Penn includes allies in the question iirc
omg being gay actually gets me somewhere
Allies?

