#Harvard University (2023-2024)

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reef forge
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and recognition

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but you gotta have better motives

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and have some colleges that u actually like

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not just their name

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i like ut austin and usc

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i like huge sports culture

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great business network

minor pecan
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I only applied to ivies so I guess I’m a hypocrite too lmao

reef forge
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no safeties?

minor pecan
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I got in early so no

reef forge
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where do u go

minor pecan
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otherwise I would have had safeties

reef forge
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harvard?

minor pecan
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Guess

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Yeah

reef forge
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are u legacy/rich/recruited athlete?

reef forge
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first gen low income

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getting in early to harvard w/o hooks = ur a god

minor pecan
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It wouldn’t matter if I told you

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It’s too late

reef forge
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no thats false

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statistically its higher

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but ur competing with

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rich/legacy/highly hooked/athletes

minor pecan
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Early acceptance rate is usuallyinflated by legacies, athletes, etc

reef forge
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and more comp kids

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tbf those kids dont go away for rd

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so its not like its gonna help too much

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lmao

minor pecan
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Just early wherever you want to go the most

reef forge
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@minor pecan through ur experience is it that ivy kids such as harvard are really that cracked with ECs or is it just like a small number of those kids and the rest are just elite essay writers

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i feel like its overexaggerated how sweaty these kids ECs are

minor pecan
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I’m a freshman

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But there are definitely a solid number of normal people here

reef forge
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yea but u have talked to some others right

minor pecan
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Or people who do 1-2 things really well

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I would consider myself normal

reef forge
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i feel like all these ppl with intl ECs and all that are a small population of even top colleges

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i dont think he wants to lmao

minor pecan
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It was mickey stuff

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I made a Reddit post about it but then deleted lol

reef forge
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ok so ur not normal

minor pecan
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I’m not going to say

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If I say you can easily search me up

reef forge
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bros a research robot

minor pecan
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I also can’t say

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💀

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Nah

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I have met him though

reef forge
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isef winning ahh

minor pecan
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I met him on campus

reef forge
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what major

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r u doing

minor pecan
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applied math

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probably

reef forge
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any tips for harvard supps? (dont say be yourself or im flying there rn and jumping you)

minor pecan
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they also changed the prompts this year

reef forge
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clearly not

minor pecan
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so I have no clue

reef forge
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i dont mean specifically to prompts or to harvard

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ig

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like whats one thing u reflected on with ur essay writing process

minor pecan
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I wrote most of my essays the week or day before

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I don’t really know

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I think I got lucky

reef forge
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theres no way

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none of that matters btw

minor pecan
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4 but idt it matters

reef forge
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outside of school ECs >>>

minor pecan
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My hs was mid kinda

reef forge
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in school ECs are basic bro

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dont hold much value

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unless u did sum insane

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@minor pecan where else did u apply

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before harvard accepted u

minor pecan
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I applied early

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to harvard

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but I applied to Yale, Cornell, and Penn afterward

reef forge
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u didnt do any other essays before dec 15th?

minor pecan
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No

reef forge
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u got into harvard and still applied to other schools?

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u wild ash for that

minor pecan
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Yeah, I wanted to leverage aid

reef forge
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did u get in anywhere else

minor pecan
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Yeah, I got into all

reef forge
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dawg youre clearly not lucky

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4 ivies applied 4 accepted means u def did sum right lmfao

minor pecan
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I just copy pasted my harvard essay 💀

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to all of them

reef forge
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upenn thank u note?

minor pecan
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Oh yeah

reef forge
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whod u write to

minor pecan
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I wrote that one

reef forge
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im stuck on who to write it to

minor pecan
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I wrote it to my sister

reef forge
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nice

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i dont rlly wanna do family but idk

minor pecan
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I wrote it to a teacher first

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and then changed it the night before

reef forge
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i mean if i got into 4 ivies i wouldnt be as humble as this guy ngl

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he said he isnt saying dawg

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just give it up

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lmfao

minor pecan
reef forge
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apply to anson l. clark

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its really tough to get into

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but pretty prestigious

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anson l. clark scholars

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its a research thing

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insanely tough to get into

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just google it

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idk the application dates like when its open bc i applied last year

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didnt get in obv

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@minor pecan did u apply test optional

minor pecan
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No

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I submitted sat

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1540

reef forge
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🔥

minor pecan
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Summers

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I didn’t have any professors at hs so cold emailing labs and through research programs like SSP, Simons, etc

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also my local college

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@rancid mural

frank arch
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This guy cracked

minor pecan
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I never applied to RSI

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the research internship was not at my local college

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It was a different org

minor pecan
minor pecan
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bro lol

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what worked for me likely won’t work for you

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I largely believe I got in because of essays

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I said it above

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We are probably completely different majors and have completely different interests

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Just do what you like and do it well

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and even if it doesn’t work out

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who cares lmao

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It’s not like if you don’t go to harvard you can’t be successful or anything

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I never said that lol

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I just said I wrote the essay a week before it was due

minor pecan
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sarcasm haha

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yeah

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uh

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no

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they say prior research exp is not required but that’s a joke imo lol

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so hope you have something

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honestly write good essays

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and be cracked

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what have you done so far

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ok

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what have you done so far overall in hs

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what's your biggest activity

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ok

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did u win?

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o ok

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what else

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what do you want to major in / plan to study?

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ok

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what are some micro biology related things you have done

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well

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maybe you still have time

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what are your volunteer hours in? hospital?

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dw

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i basically sold my freshman year

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and did close to nothing

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ok

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that's a start ig

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why did you say you wanted to go to harvard again

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oh, u said glory and prestige

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lmfao

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basically any college can help you in the future

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ok

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probably not

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otherwise people could just say "im self studying quantum physics, u should admit me for physics"

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jr year

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i think

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that if you want the results, you need to put in the time to grind

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rsi basically expects prior research tho lol

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and you dont need rsi for anything

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its useless

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most of those r scams

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p2w

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so what

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most of the kids who get into rsi are already cracked

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they couldve done well in college admissions without rsi

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by just lisitng their activites

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rsi is the icing on the cake

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ssp is like 10 iirc

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theyre all hard

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basically yeah

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are you in the us

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local college

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plus i was like in a good location

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so there were a lot of stuff around

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i was lab monkey in 8th grade

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and then in freshman sprign i was also a lab monkey

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i didnt

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i was just a lab monkey

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u do the dirty work

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like pipet

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and the tedious stuff

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eh

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in a sense ig

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nah, with profs at nearby college

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yeah

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but honestly

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at this point

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switch ur major to math and start gridning amc 🫡

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jk jk

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just try to get anything atp

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dont focus too much on the specific topic

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like

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if its biology related

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email them

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ok but there are prob only 3 profs doing that

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but 10002 profs doing biology in general

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so dont just email the 3

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email all 10002

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read what research theyre doing

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and then email them and ask if u can help

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say ull do it for free

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yeah

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just act interested and stuff

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u know the basics

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i would recommend u check out the extracurriuclars channels and stuff on this server

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networking

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basically worked w profs

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got to know them well

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for me it was different because i took classes at my local college

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so i already knew them a little and they knew me

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nah

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it was basic stuff

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no lol

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it was like arduinos or some wack thign

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and breadbrts, circuts, etc

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u dont need ot

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to(

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just email them bro

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spend less time worrying

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more time getting on the grind

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u r already 2 years behind ngmi /s

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not gonna make it

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check out the stuff this server offers @rancid mural

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i joined in my senior yr so i never used it but it seems p helpful

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ok

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get to work then

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depends on the person

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if you waste time doing random shit

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then no

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if u do the right shit

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at the right time

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and do it well

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maybe

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  • spam emails, get 1-2 replies, work w a prof for 3 months
  • volunteer at nearby hospital
  • make a biology club at ur hs or join one if there exists already and try to get onto board
  • try hosting a science fair at ur middle school or hs
  • look into studying for USABO (relatively easy to get semifinalist)
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basically just lock in

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for the next few months

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or at least junior year

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cause this is basically the last year you have

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ok

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then email the advisor

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ask wtf is up

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and that can u start leading meetings

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do it at a different school

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self study

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and take exam elsewhere

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there are a lot of options if ur actually interested

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gg

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sold

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see if u can organize one for spring

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or smth

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idk

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i dont know hs stuff

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i just did whatever

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no bruh

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tell the bio club members to be judges

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its a middle school fair

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theyre gonna make volcanoes or some shit

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u can be the judges

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then jsut get 2 friends

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and be the judgees

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easy

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dont wrory abt logistics

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u can figure it out as u go

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best to just get started with something instead of twiddling ur fingers

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blud does not want to take the initiatives

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but ok

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good enough to start

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now actualy lock in and do those 3 things well if thats what ur gonna do

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ig

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but dont waste time on a lost cause

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there's a textbook online that most ppl use for usabo

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just read it and understand the shit

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usabo semis is basically just memorization

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if u get 29/50 correct or smth u get semi status

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actually, the entire test is just memorization

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trivial oly

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but yeah

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just google shit

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ask chatgpt

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ask this server

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and lock in for the next few months

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u got this

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and even if it doesnt work out and u get rejected by harvard, at least u have exp going into college and arent starting from square 1

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👍

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wait

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have u finished sat/act testing

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@rancid mural

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if not then add sat prep to the list

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of shit todo

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gl

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ok

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gl

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im gonna escape back to the verified channels now

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never texted this much in general chats till today cursedmoon

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there are very cracked people in this server

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so try and get advice from them

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as they have more exp than i do

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nah

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im like bottom tier a2c

pulsar pond
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omg what is happening

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never seen this thread this active before

minor pecan
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Harvard released another emergency prompt

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so we were discussing that

pulsar pond
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WHAT THE FUCK

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yo that literally sent me into a panic attack

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I just checked the application and luckily it's still five prompts

pulsar pond
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on that perspective I feel like many people (me) certainly do stuff because they want to get into Harvard

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but then through the process I built a passion for it

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so it's more like backward engineering for me

rancid mural
frigid herald
minor pecan
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I was jk

minor pecan
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Leadership position in the club

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President, Vice President, treasurer, etc

frigid herald
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what college do you go to? @minor pecan

minor pecan
haughty dew
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This bro is HIM💀

minor pecan
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if* and it depends. they'll prob teach u the basics and then you help do the dirty work if ur a beginner.

frigid herald
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they are haters for real

haughty dew
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Huh

jolly lichen
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I mean this is mostly a function of major distribution

reef forge
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True but still

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My point stands

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Prestige is overrated

jolly lichen
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I mean I'm biased but student body is imo the best reason to go to a school like Harvard

frigid herald
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I agree lol

reef forge
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Def

frigid herald
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Prestige may be overrated in the normal sense, but if you are going to a school like Harvard, MIT, Yale, Stanford whatever it may be the real reason you should be going there is because of the community/students

reef forge
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But u can find great students everywhere

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State flagship have Hella kids with great stats

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Ivies and top schools are def more well rounded

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As a class

jolly lichen
frigid herald
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But it's not just students it's faculty, alumni, and just the environmental overall. The community is concentrated with just great people who have an innate need to pursue their passion. State schools have few and far in between

reef forge
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At umich ut uf ucb unc

jolly lichen
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I have a close friend that did undergrad at Berkeley and grad at Harvard and he thinks it's not even close between the two at undergrad level

reef forge
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Tbf I'm kind of a hypocrite since I'm applying to schools with great networks and prestige

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But still

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Imo prestige is still overrated

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Did u do masters at harvard

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Or undergrad

jolly lichen
jolly lichen
reef forge
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What major

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Mba?

jolly lichen
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physics undergrad, cs masters

reef forge
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Gotcha

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How has it helped in terms of networking

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And job opportunities

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Or is it all grinding

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With your own knowledge

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I know cs fs u need to have good knowledge

jolly lichen
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I think my answer is pretty particular to my own path but

in physics I think the quality of faculty is great but that's true at pretty much all our peer private schools and some publics (mostly thinking of Berkeley here). I think top privates have pretty comparable academics and research opportunities (and networking among academics). I think compared to Berkeley, the size makes a pretty noticeable difference with respect to competition for research opportunities and getting to know faculty (and having more $/student helps here too). these are both useful when applying to phds.

For my actual job (I work in quantitative finance), the prestige ime makes a decent difference. you have to know your stuff as well but that's a given.

generally I think also something underrated is that there's a community effect. that is, there's enough people pursing those paths that you can help each other out by talking about your struggles and successes and learn from each other

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I guess it's also been helpful to me on ways I haven't capitalized on. like I've been offered jobs at my friends' startups but I've declined

reef forge
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Good shit bro

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I see ur point

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Time to get into hpysm

jolly lichen
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generally speaking it's hard to figure out the actual effect of prestige because it's riddled with selection bias

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like yeah kids at Harvard/mit/whatever are smart but it's hard to say if they do well afterwards because they're smart/driven/etc (and therefore were admitted) or if the school itself makes a difference

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and the economics literature is pretty mixed on this at this point as far as I know

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hahahahahahahaha as if science makes money

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(but yes I agree with the idea)

minor pecan
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There are only a handful of examples like that

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Most people nowadays go to college to be "successful"

rancid mural
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my goal is to get into harvard so I can study South Asian studies

minor pecan
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if you find more go ahead

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i cant hold your hand, do whatever u think is right to maximize ur chances

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it's saturday

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you had at least 10 hrs today

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or tomorrow

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to do homework

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ull be fine

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what time did you go to bed last night

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what were you doing from 10 pm - 3 am

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dawg

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even i know thats cap

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just manage ur time or smth

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idk

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(i am bad at time management so i should not be saying this)

rancid mural
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bro ur such a fkn loser 😭

minor pecan
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what lol

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i do most shit last minute

rancid mural
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why dont u look for some bitches

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the only way to guarantee top college is like usamo or recruited athlete bruv

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chill out

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or like RSI

rancid mural
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yeah it will

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if the rest of ur app isnt mid its bless

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at least 1

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i dont think youve done enough research to get some bitches

minor pecan
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cool

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most will reject or ghost you

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that’s why u apply to a lot

uncut canyon
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still haven’t started the question responses 💪

bitter path
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Use LinkedIn, put the college’s name and see what pops up

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Once you find their surname search em up on college’s website

bitter path
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Most likely you don’t have an active account, that’s why

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You can always search up on google eg. Harvard Physics professor LinkedIn

pulsar pond
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how would you describe Harvard spirit

jolly lichen
pulsar pond
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wdym harvard yale

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athletic competitions?

jolly lichen
pulsar pond
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ah I see

rancid mural
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yo guys, so when people say that harvard only accepts around 12 transfer applicants per academic year, is it 12 students for each year? or 4 students for each of the first 3 undergraduate years?

minor pecan
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not 4 for each of the undergrad years afaik

rancid mural
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Thankssss

minor pecan
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No

rancid mural
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No wait, freshman's not a transfer lmao

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my bad

minor pecan
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Not 12 - 12 - 12

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That would be a total of 36 admits

rancid mural
minor pecan
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It’s just 12 admits

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Doesn’t matter the split

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It could be 7 - 5

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4 - 8

rancid mural
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As long as it totals to 12 then? dayum

minor pecan
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Yes

rancid mural
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And here I thought my chances couldn't get any lower

minor pecan
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Transfer acceptance rate is like <1% lol

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good luck if you decide to do it

rancid mural
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I have, and I'm gonna wing it no matter what

minor pecan
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Where do you go rn?

rancid mural
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a local college

minor pecan
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Oh ok

rancid mural
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Did pretty much nothing of significance my entire life, just found out that I can still apply for harvard a few months ago lol

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But I'm still gonna go for it

minor pecan
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gotcha

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good luck

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maybe you’ll be one of the ~12 transfer admits

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u never know

rancid mural
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Thankss

minor pecan
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Ok

rancid mural
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Thats a normal response

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U cant expect to get a yes first time u send out emails

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It will take many many emails, if ever

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Do an internship at a company or something

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Why would it being in the school year matter

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You can still do it at a company

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Those aren't exclusive

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My research internship at a company started in august

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Just find companies near you and email them

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well duh

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find companies centered on research 💀

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What sort of professors were u emailing

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Like at top schools or smth

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I had no luck with profs but i got one at a company pretty easy

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I expressed that i was not challenged with the work i was doing and would love to expand my knowledge

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I help run experiments

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and also do basic lab stuff like solution prep

mint portal
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this is good

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if they responded with that

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that is very good

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now don't fumble the ball

frank arch
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W

pulsar pond
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great news I absolutely raw dogged the last of my short questions

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I'm so tired of this

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I still have to brush up my personal statement I'm cryingmeltingsob

minor pecan
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better than a no

minor pecan
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they really shouldn’t anyways

rancid mural
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I think they capture me very well

rancid mural
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It can be a huge huge liability to accept students under the age of 18 into a lab

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What I’m saying is a lot of labs don’t want to deal with that

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Because if there’s an accident or something with a minor it’s a huge incident

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It’s a lot easier to just use college students because they’re adults

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I think this also has some good points although it doesn’t represent every high schooler

pulsar pond
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I thought long and hard about the other ones but they're just not that well written

frank arch
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they don't

cedar salmon
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Do they ask you to do that here (the uk)? the most I’ve heard of is being asked about a book or something that you mentioned in your PS

bitter path
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Same for another friend ik who applied for dentistry, they asked for proof but it’s not common as we dont care as much about ECs

bitter path
rancid mural
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They only verify ur ecs if its extremely suspicious

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Like absolutely no way its true

cedar salmon
shadow helm
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is they a way to submit 2 common apps

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1 lying about everything for da reaches and 1 thats truthful for the targets and safteys

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asking for a friend

rancid mural
shadow helm
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Harvard takes coalition app

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I’ll lie on that

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I’m a genius

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I wouldn’t feel guilty at all if I lied and got in

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Game is game

reef forge
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you would have to write 2 sets of essays

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and if you were rlly that impressive 1 google search would end ur whole career

shadow helm
rancid mural
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If you went they'd expell you or revoke your degree when they found out

shadow helm
shadow helm
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That’s why I wouldn’t lie

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I’m an honest student

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I would embellish

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Just like everyone else

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Except to a bit higher degree

shadow helm
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Would cancel my application after getting accepted ED to UVA

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🙏

lilac yew
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Does Harvard not take AP scores anymore?

jolly lichen
pulsar pond
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my personal essay is so shit oh my god

minor pecan
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Unless you got a 5 on an AP foreign language exam

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Ok

pulsar pond
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I really want to give up on rea now

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My ps is shit

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Exams coming in 2 weeks

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Math IA due in a weekend

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I can’t sacrifice my grades for this

rancid mural
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Then don’t

pulsar pond
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But are my chances going to be lower

rancid mural
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Def dont sacrifice grades for rea

pulsar pond
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Statistically rea has a slightly higher acceptance rate

rancid mural
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Getting in rea doesnt matter if you get rescinded

minor pecan
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If you’re good enough to get in rea

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you’re prob good enough to get in RD

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Idt it matters

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The rea acc rate is slightly higher due to other factors like legacies, athletes, donors, etc

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Plus, idk if it’s true but I’ve heard rea pool tends to be more competitive

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Dawg

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Gonna be completely honest

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I don’t care

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But follow up with him or something

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He might just be busy or smth

rancid mural
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We have channels if you want to ask questions

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#🏹-extracurriculars is awesome

minor pecan
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My advice is pretty mid ngl

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I was never good at giving advice

rancid mural
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Not with that attitude

minor pecan
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This server prob better overall

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🤔

rancid mural
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Most A2C comment ever

minor pecan
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I’m like bottom tier harvard bro

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idt you want advice from me 💀

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Hs research is useless

jolly lichen
minor pecan
rancid mural
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What is the correlation between these two things

shadow helm
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Bro at the start of the dunning Kruger effect

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An a month he will be in the Cornell thread begging for a chance at ED

minor pecan
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Bro thinks he can’t be successful without Harvard

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The students make the school what it is

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Not the other way around

frank arch
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I smell a2c

shadow helm
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Bros already a lost cause 💀💀

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You will be disappointed forever

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With this mindset

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They will be plenty happy with an average good school💀

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My parents are the same way

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They want you to aim for Harvard

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State flagship is fine to end up at

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Ok lil bro you do you

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Just know that you will ultimately be disappointed anyways

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Your mindset

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Your type of mindset

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T5 or bust

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Ivy or bust

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You definitely can

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But first of all just doing research ain’t getting you in and second of all the chances are low for everyone

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You should try your hardest

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I’m not saying not to

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Not what I mean

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Yeah do that ofc

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But answer the question of if you would be happy at the best public college in your state

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If not then something needs to change

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And I don’t think you would

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If you have the mindset of getting into a top college since junior year you definitely won’t get over it

lilac yew
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if schools weren’t ranked would you still want to go to harvard

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or is it literally because you saw a website say harvard #1

shadow helm
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I promise you your parents will be happy where ever you go as long as you are successful

lilac yew
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sad

shadow helm
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College ain’t that big of a deal

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So they will be completely fine with whatever you get in as long as they see you are working hard

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My Asian parents are just like this

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If your parents are really like Ivy or bust then that means you have parents with unrealistic expectations that you would never make happy anyways, and they only want you to get in so that they can brag like it’s their own achievement

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Obviously a top school too but im fine with a VA public like UVA VT or W&M

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@rancid mural don’t ask questions there

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I edited it

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You can just read the website

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Is your family income 65k or lower

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If you can prove you still face significant financial hardship but probably nah

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Still a ton of scholarships you can apply for

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Make sure to apply to as many as you can

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You can ask all the finalists in #✨-celebration-station what they did to get that far

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Not in there

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In dms

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Bro that’s not a talking channel

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They ain’t gonna dm you

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You have to ask in dms

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Make it easy for them

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You can use the quest bridge thread too

minor pecan
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I didn’t really know what college I wanted to go to

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I just applied to places without doing much research about them

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ok ngl I kind of did want to go to mit up until end of junior year teehee

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Qb is kinda scam imo

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What does that have anything to do with it lol

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Yeah, it’s better to just apply regularly in my opinion

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if you’re low enough income for QB

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chances are you’ll get full aid from colleges either way

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qb is extra work and can fuck you over sometimes if you don’t get matched

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I think applying to the scholarship can still be worth

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but going thru the match is risky

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Maybe im coping because i got rejected from qb ncm

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but that’s just what I think

rancid mural
# minor pecan Maybe im coping because i got rejected from qb ncm

nah im not doing the match because in reality the match can lessen ur chances. colleges can only accept so many people from the match . im shotgunning qbrd apps because the qb app allows more space to tell your story and many colleges lessen their supplements for qb kids

minor pecan
pulsar pond
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I got a 1490 sat

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I'm screwed😭

shadow helm
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TO u go

pulsar pond
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is it really that shitty

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im still debating should I submit or no

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it seems to be within the range of admitted students

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but on the lower end

rancid mural
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Thats equivalent to 34 act bro

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34 is generally the point where ppl say that it stops mattering

pulsar pond
#

I'm getting contradicting opinions on whether I should submit or not

shadow helm
minor pecan
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it just reaches the 25th percentile

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I think the general consensus is that if your score is <25th percentile, don’t submit

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But you’re in a weird position

frigid herald
shadow helm
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Don’t remember asking

frigid herald
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average junior

shadow helm
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Shut up

frigid herald
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oh my mistake

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i forgot you were a below average junior

shadow helm
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You prob took act 10 times

frigid herald
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I've taken it twice lol

minor pecan
shadow helm
minor pecan
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All juniors suck

shadow helm
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Nobody can compare to me

minor pecan
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Most seniors suck

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Only goated class was class of 2023

shadow helm
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Don’t let the ego get to you

minor pecan
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I’m just kidding

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A large prop of the people here better than me

shadow helm
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Can you get an internship at the admissions office and accept me pls

minor pecan
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Maybe

frigid herald
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what school you go to luck?

shadow helm
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I’ll return the favor

minor pecan
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I go to mit

frigid herald
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wut

shadow helm
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He spends more time at mit parties than Harvard classes

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Crazy

frigid herald
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oh you go to harvard?

minor pecan
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I’ve never been to MIT party yet

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Yeah

shadow helm
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I go to Harvard too

frigid herald
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Do you like it there?

shadow helm
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I started the CS50 class

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So I’m basically a student

minor pecan
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It’s fine I guess

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I think it’s overhyped

shadow helm
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Ofc it is

minor pecan
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The people are nice and it’s been an amazing meeting them and all

shadow helm
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Bro thought it’s a magical wonderland

minor pecan
#

but actual other stuff kinda just normal imo

shadow helm
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Only reason you go to Harvard is for the connections

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So find some rich legacies and get on their train

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You doing it wrong if u don’t

minor pecan
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I wouldn’t say it’s the only reason

pulsar pond
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I'm debating whether this is going to hurt my academics part

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I have a full IB predicted score and just a slightly lower sat score

frank arch
pulsar pond
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yes

frank arch
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I would normally say submit it since 83% of admitted students submitted sat/act but your academics is obviously good enough without need of SAT

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Me personally wouldnt submit it but idk

shadow helm
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Just retake November

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We can study together

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And both get 1600

minor pecan
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I would personally submit

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I doubt the admissions officers would be like

oh, this person has great grades, ECs, awards, recommendation letters, etc

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but ahhhhhhh they have a 1490 sat we can’t admit them

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@pulsar pond

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Plus

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Since you’re international

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No SAT score is worse

pulsar pond
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my problem is I don't know what counts as good

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ECs and awards or what not

minor pecan
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Above 25th percentile is generally considered okay

pulsar pond
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what counts as "great"

minor pecan
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50th percentile is good

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anything above is golden

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oh

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idk

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It’s subjective

pulsar pond
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I'll give it a bit more thought I suppose

minor pecan
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I would submit the sat if you’re international

pulsar pond
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also I want to know whether I'm intl or not

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I have double citizenship

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US and Hong Kong

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but I go to school in Hong Kong

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so am I domestic or no I've heard so many different versions of this

pulsar pond
minor pecan
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I think you’re considered a U.S. citizen in admissions

jolly lichen
pulsar pond
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ah I see

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thanks for solving this big headache I've been having for a very long time😂

shadow helm
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If you’re a US Citizen you’re a US Citizen

frigid herald
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If you hold dual citizenship you are a domestic applicant

rancid mural
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Starting to hate my harvard supps

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I will now be rewriting them 💀

reef forge
rancid mural
reef forge
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Real.

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The more I read a supp that I wrote the less I like it

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So after I submit I just don't look at my supps again

rancid mural
rancid mural
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Not everyone has the opportunity to

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Nor does everyone have the capacity

haughty dew
rancid mural
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Theyre a citizen

haughty dew
minor pecan
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Hi guys!

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DM me for college essay review

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I charge $50 per essay and I’m totally legit and qualified

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Thank you

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Also send your SSN, credit card info, etc for higher chances!

pulsar pond
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I'm doing rea I don't have time😭

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might have to give in a few days to think about whether I should submit

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this is class of 2025 data I don't know about now

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I'm simply thinking whether it sucks more to go TO or submit even with a not-so-high score to show that at least I've done something

minor pecan
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Just submit it

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Class of 2025 was weird bc it was peak covid and testing centers were shutdown, many people couldn’t retake SAT or even take it at all

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Plus, I think the test optional thing actually boosts the SAT score on CDS because people with low scores don’t submit them

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So although the 25th percentile says 1490, it might actually be like 1470 or smth in a completely normal year with no TO

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If you get rejected it likely won’t be because of your SAT score @pulsar pond

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and if you do get rejected

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you can just blame it on your SAT score for copium

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teehee 🤝

pulsar pond
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😂😂😂I like that explanation

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I'm prepared for rejection now

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especially when I have exams in one week and my personal statement isn't top-notch quality I can't care anymore

minor pecan
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you need to fuck it we ball mentality

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That seems to pretty big here

pulsar pond
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yeah that's what we going for

minor pecan
pulsar pond
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can't put all my bets on Harvard and then fucking up my next predicted grade

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no colleges will be taking me in like that:)

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I'm just waiting for better college apps to rip mine apart

thick sphinx
pulsar pond
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btw hi @kite

pulsar pond
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I mean hi yeah I will stop caring

shadow helm
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Anyone else think better college apps and the essay mechanic are the same person

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They talk similarly and always recommend each other and shit

pulsar pond
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I'm not paying for ps review which kind of sounds like a wrong decision but fuck it

minor pecan
minor pecan
shadow helm
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It’s a college consultant

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They active in this discord

minor pecan
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not paying for prep is a good decision

minor pecan
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u just gotta not care about the decision

minor pecan
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but has yet to change his nickname and about me

pulsar pond
minor pecan
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lmao

pulsar pond
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which might be a wrong decision because ps should be more important and I didn't pay to get my ps reviewed

pulsar pond
minor pecan
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shouldve had the CA reviewed cause it goes to every college

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but it is what it is

pulsar pond
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ain't gonna let this one school disrupt my chances of getting into other schools

minor pecan
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"On my knees begging for Harvard to end my pain"

rancid mural
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Would yall recommend submitting an ACT that has a 27 math if everything else is 34, 35, and 36. im not applying for stem and my math is the best in my school 😭

pulsar pond
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I wonder how I can crunch 80% of the entire IB curriculum into my brain in less than a week

shadow helm
minor pecan
rancid mural
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Idk if i should do TO for harvard

minor pecan
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oh

rancid mural
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ive been taking as much dual enrollment math as possible

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to try and maybe shift focus away from that 27 💀

pulsar pond
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I think with extra coursework that's ok

rancid mural
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My issue is the time constraint

minor pecan
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27 is uh well below the 25th percentile

rancid mural
#

60 questions in 60 minutes is so hard

minor pecan
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but the other section scores are ok

rancid mural
shadow helm
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If u getting As in high level DE math classes then they prob don’t care about the 27 that much

rancid mural
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Its the highest level available to me

shadow helm
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That’s high level

rancid mural
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My major only requires stats and calc 1

shadow helm
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Unless the highest DE class is precalc like at my school

rancid mural
minor pecan
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you're a biomed majors, no?

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is that not STEM

rancid mural
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Psychology

minor pecan
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"biomedicine lover, class of 2024"

rancid mural
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Im gonna double major later

rancid mural
minor pecan
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hmm

rancid mural
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Im just not an engineering person

minor pecan
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idk then abt the act

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overall its a 33 which is not baad

rancid mural
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Does it help at all if im rural, low income, and first gen 💀

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Im like digging at anything to make that 27 seem LESS bad

minor pecan
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i dont think so

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plenty of fgli still have high scores when applying

rancid mural
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Im trying SAT in december so if im deferred ill should have a better chance at RD

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So far SAT math has been easier for me

minor pecan
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defer is p much soft reject ngl

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they defer 80% of REA ppl

rancid mural
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Ik

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But they still look at anything that got updated

minor pecan
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yeah i guess

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i doubt act score will be reason for defer

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especially just one section

rancid mural
#

I have a college consultant and he said he would love for them to see my 36 reading and 35 english given my major, but it still worries me a lot

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i wish i could only submit english and reading ngl 💀

minor pecan
#

hmm

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im not sure

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if thats wht ur college consultant said then go for it ig

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🤔

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obv 27 will not look great but maybe itll be fine w high score in other sections

rancid mural
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My school has a big lack of math education too so maybe they will understand 😭

frigid herald
#

I think it's important to remember that they are holistic admission processes. If you truly are well equipped for a university like Harvard, and only truly lack in an ACT/SAT score or even less so just a sub-score, you don't have too much to worry about.

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Though if you have a 27 ACT Math and an F in Calculus, F in Algebra II, F in Geoemtry then you have some explaining

rancid mural
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yeah 😭 ive had an A in every math class ive done

frigid herald
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Nah I wouldn't think too hard abt it

minor pecan
#

just send it

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fuck it we ball

frigid herald
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I feel like as long as your other aspects are still good then you have a good shot regardless

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I mean honestly I don't think a 36 composite vs a 33 composite is going to cost you admissions

minor pecan
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well, good shot depending on how cracked bro is

minor pecan
frigid herald
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That's like saying a 95 vs 100 is going to cost you making an A in the class

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It doesn't, you still have an A

frigid herald
#

I sent Luck my SSN & Credit Card info as arranged and he blocked me and I just caled a call from the Department of State. Should I be concerned?

minor pecan
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We appreciate your patience as we take a look at your application in detail and evaluate our needs. If we feel that you are a good fit for a review, we will be in touch to learn more. Please note, due to a high volume of applications, not all applicants will receive a response.

shadow helm
#

L you got waitlisted

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Not a real Harvard acceptance imo

frigid herald
rancid mural
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Logic dictates that its the message he got for a club or internship or smth

shadow helm
#

Joke

minor pecan
frigid herald
#

Sorry, it was the Department of Justice that called me.

minor pecan
#

An update to your application status has been posted.

lilac yew
#

is there no longer a place to report legacy for Harvard?

frigid herald
minor pecan
rancid mural
#

Im gonna look

rancid mural
#

What did it say before

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Actually wait

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Common app itself asks where ur parent went to college if u put that they did

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so i assume they stopped asking like "did ur parent attend harvard"

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And r just gonna use that family section

lilac yew
#

but what about my great great grandparents

minor pecan
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u don’t need to list them

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ur already in bro

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gg

frank arch
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lol

minor pecan
#

@rancid mural How’s it going

shadow helm
#

Only applying so that I can jump him if I get accepted 🙏

minor pecan
shadow helm
#

U can’t go 10mins watching his stream without him mentioning it

reef forge
#

He's actually so annoying lmao

rancid mural
#

harvard is so unironically easy that bro streams 12 hours a day

shadow helm
#

His ego is so crazy

patent iron
#

debating adding harvard to my list. never really expected to go there as a kid. I added about 3 other ivies but held off on harvard since me mentioning im applying there would just sound ridiculous

shadow helm
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Just don’t mention it then

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I don’t think I’ll apply to a t5 too unless I find a fee waiver on the floor

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Waste of money

patent iron
#

yeah thats a factor to consider

rancid mural
#

If ur low income but dont quality for common app fee waiver, u can still email harvard for a waiver

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Thats true for all schools

haughty dew
#

You’re just middle income then

rancid mural
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Because its based on the national free lunch cut offs

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If you dont qualify for free or reduced, you arent considered eligible for CAFW

haughty dew
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And if your counsellor can sign in support of your finances

rancid mural
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but you may still be struggling

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and need one

haughty dew
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Doesn’t sound right imo

minor pecan
#

Nah

rancid mural
#

For a family of 4 in ALL of america, u need 55k or less per year for reduced lunch

minor pecan
rancid mural
#

in new york city 55k is gonna be low income

minor pecan
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If you fail to meet even 1 of these ur prob not low income

rancid mural
minor pecan
#

Yeah, if your counselor will confirm it

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Sometimes you can just email the college and ask for waiver

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and they don’t even question it

rancid mural
#

thats crazy to me

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I figured they'd be a bit more strict waiving EVERY app fee

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And more loose w singles

minor pecan
#

If you apply with fee waiver, your counselor still has to confirm it on their side

haughty dew
haughty dew
rancid mural
#

Idk a lot of the common app fee waiver stuff, i knew i was eligible so i never checked the requirements 💀

minor pecan
#

Yeah

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I just assume I’m eligible for all fee waivers

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💀

haughty dew
rancid mural
#

Ivies want you to follow your passions and achieve what you can within them

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Get an internship within ur field if u want, if ur passionate abt helping immigrant families u could volunteer or do charity work

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what you wanna do is pretty good

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get plenty of service hours at red cross

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U should def get some leadership experience though

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Do u have hooks

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Like r u fgli or anything

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First gen college student and low income

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r there a lot of resources in ur area

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that are free

shadow helm
#

i wish i had that

rancid mural
#

take advantage of everything you reasonably can. Harvard roughly says they want students to do the most they can in their particular situation

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Its called holistic review

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The students youre looking at probably have legacy or parents who know the process

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if u dont, ur not gonna be compared to them

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here we dont get free ap but i get 4 free ACTs

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2 free SATs

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i hate that sat gives less free

opal night
#

You won’t know unless you try, apply, and see

#

Then do that?

#

Ultimately you don’t know your chances

#

Or if you’re actually maximizing them

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?

minor pecan
#

no

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but it could help

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maybe

#

a little

#

No

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No

opal night
#

Not necessarily

minor pecan
#

Getting a high score on the AIME helps

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But it’s not required

opal night
#

Not everyone is comfortable please respect their boundaries

minor pecan
#

Even if i told you

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you only have 1 year

#

you can’t implement everything that i did over 5 years in 1

opal night
#

Doesn’t matter they don’t need to justify themselves

minor pecan
#

There are plenty

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You just don’t hear of them because it doesn’t sound as cool as ISEF winner or USAMO qualifier

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probably

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leaderships role are useless kinda

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idt President of science bowl team or whatever means much in the grand scheme of things

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yeah

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yeah