#Duke University (2023-2024)
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10% acceptane rate ed is insaneeeee
worst part is i have to wait another 3 months
gg........
but ima just treat it as a rejection
10 excluding QB and recruited
It's okay y'all all of you guys are incredibly smart and you'll end up at a great college
4 prob
Im just sad because i was hoping that getting in would relieve a lot of stress but now im still on the edge about where im going to be going
But it's not like i was like emotionally attached to duke
Like it's fine i can picture myself at a lot of different colleges
felt
i mean honestly its good cause i can save money by going to my state's flagship college
no student debt
no 400k
That's good, don't get emotionally attached to any college
I’m gonna be pissed while writing as well
Too late bud
Well try not to get more attached?
they specificially say u have no chance too
its gonna snap me into shape though for the rest of the essays i have to write
ill be on that grind
How is that no chance?
cuz like RD applicants are more stacked
those def are already part of 15% of ed
10% of 15% is crazy
Just try your best and if you don't get in then it's their loss
yea im just confused as to if i should ED2 or not
oh i thought it was for ed
so 0.15*6250= 940 ish
I mean what college would you ED2 to?
0.1 *940 = 94
vandy
Ooh vandy's a good school
i mean are u still binded to duke????
nope
I guess it's up to you and whether you want to wait it out for Duke or if you'd be happy at vandy
I will NOT be joining you guys. Congrats to everyone who got in though
Jeez why is every school's ED rate so low
it's joever
its cuz way too many people applying ED nowadays
Yeah keep your head up you might get accepted in the spring! And even if you don't you'll end up at a great college anyhow
the game is literally 2x harder than it was even 10 years ago
yea worst case ima go to UT
Even 3 years earlier would be great
its nearby and i get in state tuiton
Yeah that's still a really good option
My parents are okay with my going to my state flagship and said they'll help me out with buying a house if I choose to go there
Udub's a great school but I still wanna try for Duke and Cornell
yep
i was just looking
theres not many schools in ED2
that i would go to
want to go to
more LMAO
ill probably just try my luck in RD
way more than 2x
If that's the case then hold on to hope but make sure you apply to plenty of other schools too
same
i mean its me tbh
i dont want to pay 400k for nothing
and get into student debt
no matter how much i expected this
it still stings
gonna be hard to focus for the next couple days
ugh i got deferred
🫂
rd accept rate is 4% right?
that joke hurts 🤣 😭
So do you think deferre people have better chance than standard RD?
Yea but is that better than RD
Ima hope so
genuinely dont know what i coulda done better...
shits basically a lottery ticket nowadays
Unfortunately yes
All of y'all are obviously very smart if you're here (yes yes I know correlation isn't causation but still you guys are likely wayyy above average) and if Duke didn't accept you it's their loss and either way you guys are going to end up at an amazing college
i feel the same
it sucks but im sure we'll be fine in the end
you got this deferred people 🙏
im going to shit my pants tomorrow ngl
crying now
massively
these walls about to turn brown if i dont get into brown.......................
🤨
it's like i'm going to get into brown one way or another

also does this mean they rejected around 4400 ppl
realistically this year was also extremely competitive for duke
ye
smth like that idk
duke this year was ridiculous tbh
i'd also like to supply a diff way of viewing it
im applying to brown and the way im approaching it is this:
deferral is good
bc even though it'll hurt if i get rejected by brown ultimately
if you're getting deferred by a school at the level of duke/brown
that's basically confirmation that you're competitive at any institution in the world
lol
feasibly you can apply anywhere and have reason to believe you'll have a shot at getting in
harvard or w/e bastard institution
thats how im tryna view it when im applying to the other 15 schools
and the line between deferral and rejection is pretty fucking thin for no reason at all so even if ur rejected, even though there's 0 way to tell how close u were to deferral, it's not a death sentence
are any of u guys applying edII?
if i get rejected by brown ED my parents r trying to strongarm me into ED2 uchicago
😭
I DON'T WANT TO
me me
NOT UCHICAGZOOOOO
i was thinking johns hopkins or boston or nyu?
i watched a girl get into NYU real-time
we were the last 2 ppl left in the history classroom
along w the teacher
😭
and bro just pogged irl
so so so so soooooo happy
a miracle
nah u deserved it
dont be capping to urself
like obv theres some degree of luck but you fully deserved it
do i gotta like win ISEF or smtg to get in 
im tryna find smtg i can do in between now and march
to add to my LOCI
Cope
the scripzy and shrixy sc duo 🤞 @pallid shale
It’s not luck
It’s just subjectiveness
ye ig depends how u put it
so proud of us
that is still crazy to me
i still cant believe it
wait how do you make a deposit 💀
idek i havent even accepted my offer yet 💀
How do i add duke 28 to the back of my name
click edit server profile
click on ur name
in the chat
and then theres a pencil icon
and then one option should be edit server profile
there should be instructions in the portal?
i swear
im sorry 😦
dont worry bro im sure you'll get in somewhere good

did you accept the offer
yeah
whatd u have to do just press yes on that thingy and send deposit?
all you have to do is check 3 boxes
nope i can't even find it
maybe it's because my financial aid checklist is incomplete
yea sure
is it not like against rules
i didn't record cuz i checked in the car before i drove home
Don’t in this server
update me on my discord lingo, is the server the little buttons i click that bring up chats or the whole a2c thing
the whole a2c is the server
yes send it over
💯💯💯‼️
yeah seems fun
there is no deposit
I haven’t applied for finaid and that form is all you have to do for now
how did you get verified
what do you mean by get verified
the "verified college student/grad" role
i thought you needed to show that you paid a deposit
Wait is there deposit when you get accepted to your ed choice school?
also do i need withdraw my applications like right now
not all
cwru and uc hicago come out soon
and i kinda wanna see
but i dont wanna get in trouble
duke better than both those
duke supremacy
wait so how does food work at duke
do i have like a set amount of points per meal
!verify
theres no deposit for duke
show them your response form and you discord
oh nice
im not sure if i should treat my defferal like a rejection or not
5-10% accepatcne in rd scares me
fuckin hell
congrats to all that got in
now im gonna be a chap that hates duke because i got deffered
i still like it just sucks
eyyyy got rejected
did duke just reject every international student who requested aid or am I trippin
they might’ve
intl aid is horrible
not if you are ed
They said they accepted less than 5%
less than 5% of international students
just intl
not the one who seeks aid, right?
like wasn’t it overall %
according to this post it's aid-seeking intl
Depresssiin starting to hit Fr
didn’t they say somewhere in their website that only 20-25 will get full aid or smth
yeah i think thats usually how it is, or even less tbh. but thst's true for most schools in the US unfortunately
post rejection clarity is crazy
THIS MAKES ME HAPPY NOW
I might wanna take a look 😭
i wanna do a college results post but idk how to rate lors and essays
dm
Usually ppl just say their teachers rlly like them or something
I can help w that
my counsellor got me to do it for a couple of my batchmates
peer review he called it, but I think he was just passing off work
send send
should i send here or dm people
Whatever u want
i mean they're quite personal so hard to steal
If it’s personal u should do
dm *
alr
Can u dm to me too?
Thank u again and congrats!!
It doesn’t matter if they’re stolen now
it’s only gonna hurt the person who steals not you
true
Yea they’re just gonna auto reject them
U can’t change essays after being deferred right?
idk
fuck duke and most importantly fuck zion williamson
no cause he went to duke
Oh
Im so sad NC does not have any major sports teams
All i have ever wanted was to live somewhere with a team
where do u live now
LETS YO
Wuke
this is so ironic
💀 I'm way too pessimistic
do I need to do a loci for Duke? if so how
you should, there are a lot of resources online for how to go about writing one. a lot depends on articulatuting your goals and how duke can help you achieve them. as well as key updates for things youve done this semester and want to do next semester.
anyone know about any group chats for accepted people
or is there anyway to see if anyone else from my state was accepted
ok wait can i talk to anybody abt duke
the way i write my essays is usually like
i NEED to know what the air and people are like there
💀
!stanford
Stanford University REA decisions come out <t:1702684800:F> in your local time
45 minutes and 11 seconds until the decision date
yehh you can pm me
boovbee we’ll get into somewhere 💙 what are your plans now?
Im about to do vandy2
I can, but I’ll know my decision for vandy earlier, so I’ll have to withdraw them
that’s why ed2 isn’t that great for US applicants imo
because deadlines are the same
and like you want to have more options right
but for internationals - we just need to know our aid 😭
Oh I see
i se
so you're only doing vandy?
i think imma ed2 to john’s hopkins 
yes😭
i mean i rly do wanna go to duke but that 5-10% chance is rly low 😭 actually maybe ill just rd to jhu
i really know i wont get in but i dont wanna regret vandy if i get in to duke
even though its 5-10%
its such a tough decision
cuz i also want to maximize my chances to other schools
true dat
i was thinking of boston university cause i was gonna do med
no, also some other 13 colleges. I’ve alr applied to 3 of them, so 10 more to do 😭
that’s why deferral kinda worse than rejection
cause like there’s no proper answer
washu maybe, but everyone keeps saying that it’s bad
location + student body
even tho students from there say that it’s not that bad now
for ed 2?
why did people around you get in somwhere??
wher
ivy, + stanford and mit
Now I think what would’ve happen if I applied there too instead of duke
our demographics def did play big role
also doesnt MIT come tmrw?
AA isn’t there anymore but they can still view our country name
that means you should do good in RD
like race doesn’t play role
yea last sat
damn ur peers are cracked
cuz intl seeking aid is still hard af even though you may have a demographic advantage
they don’t have great honors, but thankfully AO take into account that too cause we have a lot of limits
are you kinda regretting applying to duke? or youre good
i mean i wish i did somewhere where tehy didnt get 30% MORE APPLCIATIONs
but i still love duke
and i wish they didnt keep it at the same 800
same I love duke
im not gonna hate on a school just cuz i dont get in
if they did 850, we would’ve get 🤚🏻😒
that’s like hating on your ex that you loved sm
childish behaviour
yea
What was duke ed AR
Gotcha
but think about it, most of the cracked kids have gotten into their first colleges so we have a little more higher chance (i think
)
we can only hope
but i hope less people apply duke rd after seeing the ED bloodbath
cuz RD effective will be like 3%
last year ED was 16.5 and RD was 4.8
so this year im expecting RD to be like 3-4
nah duke was a fucking massacre
Don’t evade the filter please. We’re trying to work with people who make ‘28 servers if they’ve been around for a while, but since you only joined today we can’t really pin yours rn
do you know the best way to go about finding others who got in
or like groups?
You can ask around this thread or on whatever duke’s subreddit is
I’m not against helping people get members for their ‘28 servers but id like to know im directing people in these threads to servers that aren’t run by weird people and I can’t do that with new joiners bc I don’t know the new joiners well enough to make a judgement call
Like on the extreme end one ‘27 server last year I got word of that we didn’t pin ended up having a nudes channel so yeah I’m hesitant unless I feel the person can be trusted with high schoolers lol
i'm pretty sure 10 or less got accepted here so just make a group chat Lol
duke
can anyone who got in ED look at my essays?
LMAOOO 😭 duke is the best
this is so sad
i feel like a popped balloon
getting flat out rejected is so terrible
because that j means my stuff doesn’t fit there in any scenario
in theory, but not necessarily because it's very circumstantial and pretty specific to that school, so it's not indicative for how the apps for your other schools will go
yeah, i just hope another school likes me ok
for sure! do you know where your head's at for your RD list?
no 😭😭
Jhu
parents won’t let me LOL
I did BME premed! although I have maybe regrets about it in terms of prolonging my premed apps forever, but I also know bme premeds from Duke who are in med school right now, so yay
BU
@past pelican make a post in #954421825427865690
Ppl have good suggestions on there
ok thank you
nc state and UNC have a joint bme program, NC state is really awesome for having a positive engineering experience, unc and duke are good for premed opportunities (in theory) although like you can easily find clinics and stuff to volunteer at close to NC state in raleigh too
but yeah if you want help with the duke bme premed apps i'm happy to chat
yesssss i am applying for this
wait that is awesome yes
this is perfect
thank you 🥹
thanks guys 🥹🥹 go blue devils
💀
MY BAD I WAS MANIFEST
It's time to move on to bigger and better things!
Don't judge
Just let ppl do what they want
ok why r u being mean
i don't think it's that deep
If you are in a2c in the first place you're an automatic 🤓
And have no right to judge other ppl
We are all 🤓🤓🤓
i got this app for the stanford channel 😭 it was my only reason to be on here
lmao nah
Duke 28?
r u RD
They also give an experience with a lifetimes worth of memories
did u get into duke
did u get in
But it's not criminal to have preferences
Yep
they give u connections, especially with unis like duke, ur bound to meet someone who is gonna be succesfull asff
HOLY SHIT CONGRATS THATS HUGE OMG
u get to meet industry leaders alums
did u?
😈
where’d u ed
u have no leg to stand on so y r u hating 😭
Dawg chill
Yall gotta move on
Go dook
Doot universary
Please don't fight

Bro it's lick
Luck
Take that with many grains of salt
He is a hater
i’m not making fun of ur stats
at all
the context was if u we’re duke ED accept
were *
like if u got in
bc u were making fun of me for glazing stanford in my bio
yeah and that’s a good choice. and with considering price and all other factors, i’m not here to make fun of ur stats, my stats are not good
how many of u guys have taken linear algebra or stuff like that
Bro I’m praying Duke RD isn’t as bad as ED was
Like hopefully it doesn’t drop at least
I fully expect it to be about as bad
Lot of People applying just to see how much aid they can get
hello duke people
Bro lowkey regretting not forcing my parents to let me Ed upenn 💀
At least I can see ucs now ig
same w me for duke
did u get deferred stanford or just rejecetd
Rejected
I’m like half glad/half sad
My parents would have not let me Ed there
y
North Carolina
BRU
yea but lowk out of all schools i think stanford is the best to get deferred
they barely defer anyone
less than accept
my home 😭
My legacy school!!!
I got rejected lol
My friend got referred though
She doesn’t want to go anymore
Oh why didn’t you Ed duke
parents wouldn’t let me
it's only because they know you're going to UCLA/duke/penn/yale
$$
No fr
Wdym
same
Ruby did you apply usc
too expensive
oh fr why?
it's the only way i can afford
is she not even submitting the form?
Don’t they have a new grant + Stanford is the same
If she’s not their first choice they’re not her first choice in her words
My parents won’t let me go if I don’t get it
She said it’s the last thing on her list
One of the ivies she’s applying to
yeah same and usc is like no. 2 on my list (about to be no. 1 when i get that uchicago rejection on Monday
)
i see
how many schools r yal doing RD
Manifest for the best
i was gonna do 15 and i had all the supps done
grandest waste of time
I have 7 more to submit
Idk how many rds in total
I’m done w 3, almost done with a 4th, so I just need to finish 3 schools and I’m good to go
how long does a supp usually take you
The first draft takes like 1 hr at most but I have to edit a ton usually
my procrastination finally paid off 
i had basically 0 rd supps done
I think I’ll finish and if not I’ll just drop 1 school
yea i spent like 30+ hours editing Duke stuff alone
Damn wtf
I edit maybe like 6-7 hrs max each school
ya my other ones went by much quicker cause i was not obssessed
which ones
I finished my duke ones yesterday
same except i actually gotta do em now ☠️
but im only doing like 3-5
and i have 10 days of winter break
2 days per school
not bad
My rd list is apparently very long 💀
I just took a look
are they all reaches
this was my delulu prestige whore rd list
All t20 but mit Stanford brown columbia and calltech
i was probably gonna remove like harvard and columbia and add some lower reaches/high targets
but this was pretty close to it
I applied and got in safeties ea
So my rd list is 3 ivies + stanford + northwestern + nyu + bu + prolly mit
holy shit
I was going to do nu last minute but they have nothing I like
yeah fr
nu is #1 for journalism lol
My rd list is (submitted): Wellesley, Williams, vandy, Neu, UCs, and unsubmitted: UPenn, Yale, Duke, brown, tufts, Harvard, pton, and Amherst college
Yeah ik
They just didn’t offer any stuff I was into
is it worth RDing somewhere if people from your school already got in
Yeah
and theyre much more cracked
Your life is different
as long as your academics are on par then you have a chance
ig
i also have no idea what their ECs are
i just know their academics are rly good
what

i edit for like 30 min

write for maybe 3 hrs

maybe im a troll
idk
I do multiple rounds of edits
wow 7-8h still big amount of time
do you like your essays? are you confident
I’d like to hear advice on reflection in essays, can’t do them at all 😭
It really depends
Most of my schools are reach schools lol but yeah I like my essays
I really love my Yale ones
Penn is pretty decent too
Duke same
i hate my essays LOL
same i suck butt
ur funny
RD DUKE RISE UP!!
🗣️
LETS GOOOO
why
Well.....shit
so you’re telling me it’s gonna be even more down

i mean
So if it drops the same percent we’re looking at 3.75%
wouldn’t it be higher cause they still need to admit a certain amount of ppl?
but there might just be a huge influx of uncompetitive applicants
Either way 4% 5% same shit
yeah
i'm not concerned
i'm going to shoot my shot and whatever happens happens
💀
did u get deferred aka?
yeah
iut feels great
ngl
💀
idk im happy asf with it
i did NOT think i would get this far LMFAO
i did the math but idk if it’s right but it’s around 930 deferred 800 accepted and 4470 rejected
getting deferred is lowkey chill then
that's a legitimate statement that you're a competitive applicant at duke
and if yuou're competitive at duke
you're competitive literally anywhere lol
ye the only thing is if it’s 10% they are accepting its only ~93ppl 😭
Last year they accepted 110
They gotta at least do the same or higher
And honestly 110/930 is not that bad
Almost 12%
That’s better odds than we had in ED
do you think there will also be a huge boost in carolina apps for rd?
i'd expect a bigger ed increase than rd
Yea probs not
Cuz a lot of Carolina applicants prob changed their ED to Duke cuz of the fun aid
But for RD I don’t think they’ll add it
Or at least not as many
Not getting into duke 😋 quite sad I loved their marine stuff
😭
always embrace the delulu 🙏
Delulu is the solulu
have they really had the same letter for over 15 years 💀
can i message u about my essays
wassup new dookies
Dookie let me be your pookie please 🫶
-prayag
hi guys i need to get into duke
if i don’t get in my parents will probably disown me (they don’t even want me to apply)
hey, I love that mentality of yours and you shouldn’t give up at all, but it’s always best to have a backup plan, below the 5% acceptance rate, college admission is a luck game, to see which applicants vibe with the AOs cause they already have a lot of over qualified ones applying
My dad really wanted me to go duke, and I talked to him saying that it might not happen cause of the intense competition this year from the inflation of students and aid packages duke were giving along with recruited and qb matches,
i have a backup plan LOL and even if i did get in i don’t know if i would go, but i am PUSHING THROUGH!!
i really appreciate ur kind words tho
if not duke, to chapel hill i go!
I know and I am sorry if I sound rude, but I am talking from personal experience, sometimes no matter how good ur, the AO won’t like u I mean u can’t control that so don’t put urself down even if u don’t get in, BUT WE GONNA MAKE IT
which is not second rate by any means
DO NOT WORRY!!! i don’t think ur being rude at all
u got this we are making it
we are going to give them our best and if they don’t like it then they missed our
i kinda have advice but idk how to word it without being super vague
i just need to have the mental fortitude to be able to convey my best to them
u got this, shoot
well two things
- try to have a few themes in your application (your major, an extracurricular, your identity, whatever they are), and emphasize them in every part of your app
- try to be personal and specific in your essays. like for why duke make the AOs picture what you'd do on campus and why
can i ask u a specific question relating to that advice
like it wasn't clear from my ECs that i liked math/data science so i talked about it in two of my essays and had a LOR teacher mention it, and in my interview
yeah sure
so I live about an hour and a half from Duke and I’ve been lucky enough to go up there and spend a lot of time on campus when I have a teacher workday off school or a long weekend just because I love spending time up there in the Duke Forest in the gardens, and just on campus in general. Duke also has a bioelectricity concentration in their biomedical engineering major which I’m extremely interested in because my goal is to do cardiology or cardiothoracic surgery.
Sorry, this is a lot of background
but I think both those aspects of the environment and the curriculum that’s almost tailored to exactly exactly I want to do, do you think I should talk about both of those or choose one for my Duke essay
sorry i voice wrote that
either would work but i think you should talk about both
give the AO as many specific things to picture about you as you can write about in a detailed way
i have so much to sayyyyy LOL
oh wait which essay
hmm i think there's no one correct way to do it
so if you wanna be really detailed then you can pick one
ok
i could also just do the why duke about the environment and facilities
then use an intellectual experience one (shadowing during an aortic valve replacement) to talk about how that experience makes me excited about the curriculum at duke (which is tailored to cardiology)
yeah that could def work
then i could talk a bit more about me as a person, with my hobbies of gardening and working with biological systems (birds!) and how duke with the gardens and forest is a perfect match for me as a person
or should k not do that
sorry this is so much
i really think it's not about what you write, but how you write it
i assume my reflections resonated with the AOs cuz my topics were somewhat generic lol
so yes, this sounds like it would be effective
thank u
o
BLUE DEVILS RISE
anybody looking to do math or cs lol
mhm
do you guys think Environmental Science is decent at Duke?
@karmic pendant (sorry for the cold ping)
math 🙋♂️
I'm sorry Ruby I'm not actually at Duke 💔
Although from my friends who do II and profs who have done stuff at Duke, they would say "absolutely" :)
is there anyone who is applying to vandy ed2?
cs 🙋🏻♂️
Oh 😭 I’m sorry I didn’t know
Yes they are known for it
I'm not sure what the rankings say, but I'd consider it top 5 in the US
rly
thought duke was engineering school

ig it makes sense if ur engineering is good ur STEM is generally going to be good
Duke is honestly a good mix of both
it's going to be really good for everything
but it's mainly known as a humanities monolith
same with yale
Like it’s not super stem heavy
obv ur going to get insane stem but their humanities is like top 1
They have good engineering, but they are far from an engineering school
ic
I've heard some people who go there even argue that NCSU's engineering is better (obviously rankings wouldn't agree with that)
but whatever you do at Duke they'll likely be a good school for it
duke premed, engineering, econ, computer science, environ sciences, polisci/pubpol are good
they hire very good professors and are very well funded
for grad, med school and business school r good
there are def schools that are better in these respective fields, but if you want a well rounded school, duke is a good choice
I mean there business school is definetly orientated specifically towards tech
I mean if you look at FAANG basically all management is Duke
true
lol
But that’s mainly graduate tho
Like Microsoft it took me greater than 10 minutes to find someone in management on their linkedin who wasn't a duke business grad
Yes
unlv shooter was a duke fuqua grad
Duke is stellar for almost everything though
I've heard good things about every major
but also some mixed opinions about admin and management
ha lol
all i'm going to say is prepare to be frustrated at admin and management if u do come here
🤣
It couldn't be as bad as UNC
they will get on ur nerves at least once a week
they have no fucking flexibility in anything and treat their students like children
ok duke isn't as bad as unc
not always, but that is what I have heard from a few different people about UNC's admin
Honestly duke is better than UNC for one simple reason
nobody ever brings it up
parking
BTW, do you eat off campus?
💀 yes
fav restraunt in durham?
9th street off of east campus is bomb
too many bruh
3 am grub is def cosmic cantina
I love grub
i go to unc franklin street and places in durham/raleigh/cary a lot though
especially the pimento cheese they put on their burgers
You ever go to fosters?
I don't love the sandwiches, but I swear the specials are bomb every time
I honestly never leave durham
so valid
Raleigh is just all drinking, and Cary food has no seasoning.
There is this super good barbecue place in Chapel Hill
I have family and i wanna go back to nc so duke lemme in 
@midnight knoll were u an NC/SC applicant
no
From where
texas
ayo where
What major
econ + cs
Ntx 💀💀it’s over for me
I'd honestly love to go to duke, but I really hate that they mandate on campus living for 3 years and as such they've mostly lost my interest, because of that.
I think i seen u on linkedin brk 😭💀
Did u do morgan stanley
no
Ntx is hella comp
I just couldn't imagine moving into a dorm in my hometown
No point really
i have a single lmao
Isnt duke like 3 years on campus or smth
mhm
As a freshman?
These mfs are insane
Oh nice i shouldve ed duke for econ
Tuff
I applied cbhp
No result her
wait do u go to a plano school
Yet
oh
Then I might reconsider duke, because I already live by myself and I didn't want to go from that to living in a dorm with another person
No
you'll prob get an interview notice sometime soon
I wont say but somewhere in ntx
valid
I thought only top applicants get it
eh
Idk if they got that far
In the selection process
Although i know of someone who alr got into plan 2

damn
I don't even know what a plano is
It’s def random
Search it up there was a shooting
💀

this?
No another one
This month
Can’t keep track tbh 💀
oh not at the school
i remember this one
Texas schools are a bit crazy 💀
Which ones
I know some too
People whos heads are always at a slight angle are 100% crazy
like someone needs to study this
