#University of Chicago (UChicago) (2023-2024)
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like the person before me just said, it would be the earliest they've ever released it at
maybe there were more EDII applications than previous years as well
there's a high chance that's the reason
Yea I would think they are still finalising their decisions at this point tho. Some debates left
the funny thing is that so many colleges were extending their deadlines for RD
so they're bringing it on themselves at this point
uchicago did too 💀
yes 💀
it's really a win for UChicago when they do that tho
they get tons of money from application fees, whereas it's harder for us applicants now more than ever
uchicagos diff tho they had no app fee if ur applying for financial aid
Bruh uchicago is free if you're applying for fin aid
they so tuff for that
I don't think they care about app fee money lol
fr
Altho, as an intl applying for aid, m waiting for a rejection 😵
thats not fair
not everyone is applying for fin aid tho..
why do intl applying for aid always lose their chances
They don't have endowment as big as need blind colleges
i think there're many ways to answer this question
consider the fact that there are very few countries even willing to be as generous as the US is with regards to providing scholarships
the UK for instance makes international applicants pay at least 3 times what a home student does with little chances for scholarships of the type America does
it's just way too competitive
Tht's true. US is really generous even for undergraduates.
but most countries have free college right?
yeah but my point is that don't care about money from app fees
did you apply for fin aid?
so isnt the us less generous
i didn't
damn
but im not speaking for myself
Not free to intls tho
generous for low-income
Only EU citizens
harsh for middle class
If the uni is in EU
depends on which countries you are referring to. There's a mixture of public and private colleges in the country I live in
M non-EU for instance
So not free
we have national scholarship program
colleges are need aware for intls because to them intls are cash cows
it's like financial aid system
higher income pay more
this is also because many european universities are public, if i'm not wrong?
consider that these things also aren't 'free', you pay through them through your own tax dollars. But i guess that's already understood
If you look at the endowment numbers of need blind colleges (to intls)
They are in billions
I've also heard people pay few thousand dollars to go to unis in germany (intls)
german colleges are on the lower side with regards to fees, from my conventional wisdom knowledge. So i'd say you're right
Dutch schools are pretty cheap for internationals relatively speaking too
Most are around 10k
us colleges are more of business than educational institution
Yes. As avaricious as the ivy league institutions are, they are indeed very generous with their packages and they need high endowments to fund it
But they did receive a really generous donation back in 2019.
30 million if i remember correctly & they started giving more aid to intls
but i believe they give more opportunities to urms, fglis and more
So let's pray that happens more often so they can become need blind to intls too😁
primarily thanks to the huge endowments
if you asked me though, that's only fair. If one ran a country, one would naturally prioritize lower income and underprivileged students in the home country over internationals
agreed
maybe that's controversial to some, but as an international student I feel this makes sense. In my own country of residence, internationals are seen as an opportunity to get higher fees
that said, this isn't a perfect system by any stretch so unfortunately it's going to cost a lot of us who don't live in the US
it's really grateful that us colleges still give scholarships to intls
but considering usa's identity and basic mindset
it is understandable
furthermore you have other opportunities like rhodes and fulbright scholars
while you're in college
yeah but it doesn't make sense to go into a shit ton of debt just hoping to get rhodes
maybe becuase of the diversity thingy?
intls are usually the last cohort to get those benefits. UChicago is already need-blind to domestic students. So if they do get a lot more funding, it's possible that they also start using need-blind policy for intls. (Altho the num is still small)
Brown will be going need-blind for intls starting next year application cycle. I think they are confident about their endowment now.
& I hope the best for everybody!!
well nobody is forcing someone to get into all of that debt. If it isn't a viable option, then simply don't consider it
I'm kinda stunned by their cost of attendance
stunned again by the financial aid system
Am I supposed to notify my AO if my mid-year report is ready after the 16th? Or is it a “they’ll see it when the transcript is sent” kind of thing?
You can upload it to the portal if you have it
this is one of the areas UChicago still has to catch up on. I remember someone posting this reddit thread a few days ago on this thread of ivies ranking non-ivy counterparts with similar educational standards
Not sure if they'll use it for admissions at this point but they accept self-report for domestic applicants
I think this could be something that Uchicago needs to achieve
It’s ready after the 16th, do I have to email them since it’s coming out after decisions?
Or is it fine?
Oh in that case just send when it's ready
you prolly should notify them, although it would've been prudent to have done it earlier
yeah notify your ao
You can email now to be safe
now that the decision date has been announced, perhaps the mod can update it in the decision-dates thread?
Yea
I was just sharing the news in reddit cmt section as well. So everybody is aware of it.
i feel like, to the university, they only give you a full ride if you provide some value no full pay student can. since its international, and most full pay students have exceptional opportunities and resources, it gets highly difficult for FGLI internationals to stand out and get in. to the university, all of this is, at the end of the day, a business and a trade. if they cant get more value out of you being there, than how much they would have to spend out of their pockets, they arent going to admit you
thats how I approached the process atleast, and i think this perspective makes sense to me
Very reasonable, and probably the most healthy way to do it
i realize, alot of international full pay applicants have resources I can only dream of. so i tried centering my app around what I have to offer, that, I feel like, most people can't. its nothing ground breaking or cool, its just me and what I have to offer to the community.
Well.. since I need full aid, m hoping they see something in me
I'm also prepared to get rejected by every college (I really hope not!)
agreed. It's a shame that there's a lot of judgement the college does to the 'potential value' you will provide them, when there's no guarantee of what anyone can do in life. There are of course excpetional students and those with exceptional circumstances
and if they believe that someone like me can thrive and deserve a place in their class, then thats that. its more of a game of probability and fit for me honestly.
yes but i feel like, they try to guage both short term and long term
both of whos vision can somewhat be inferred from the way one frames their college app
im critiquing both, but the long-term potential is more arbitrary that what most would think
fair, considering most of them are gonna sellout to big tech, high finance or consulting 💀
theres nothing we can do now right
since they said the 7th was too late to send stuff
but even then, i feel like fin aid recipients are probably more like to donate back if they do sellout, out of gratitute
so it levels out ig
consider how liz magill was fired by penn after some high profile donors threatened to pull their donations from the college
Yesss. I will. Good thing i didn't say that in my essay. Was almost tempted
lol
i would not call college apps probability
but sure ig
honestly, for deserving full need international applicants
probably yeah
💀
i would say there's more merit in calling US colleges a matter of probability than some other countries, if that's fair
why does it matter tho?
it doesnt
my friend got in on full ride indian intl for being obsessed with cricket
it is certainly possible w/out winning tons of intl things
me when
idk what being 'obsessed abt cricket is', but considering I live here it must mean someone who's probably reached the Ranji Trophy level, which is one step from being in the national side
he didn’t play cricket, just did marketing & data analysis for some of the teams
yea
ooh that's very interesting
yeah thats what i inferred
yea i can see it now
data analysts are in high demand in cricket now, it's becoming a lot more like baseball
i legit didn’t know cricket was so popular😭
everybody here deserves to get into UChicago. and i hope yall make it 
franchise leagues are popping up all over, and it's becoming very statistically driven now
the world cups are as big as the super bowl
in india
its a whole thing
perhaps because it's mostly been played by british commonwealth nations
oh damn
they're bigger
people break their TVs and shit when the team loses a match for example
it transcends sport
it's almost nationalistic and political
it's a matter of pride
fireworks ACROSS the country
💀
its actually fucking insane
honestly i never got the cricket hype ngl
Soldiers we’ve gotten a reply
boring aah sport
“Neat”
LMFAO
year round
get off this platform man
nah genuinely, i just never got the hype
i feel like
football or BB is so much more fun to watch
i feel a lot more people would be into cricket if they truly understood it
i am indian bro
there's no reason why baseball is even popular when T20 cricket exists
i play that shit all the time
im not talking abt you
😔
there's nothing wrong with you saying you don't like it
Ah man
but the average person in a non-cricket nation just stereotypes it as boring and confusing when it really isn't
They should’ve said more
Better than not neat ig
'21???
And better than them ghosting 
very recent graduate
that's crazy
would any of you guys consider working at the admissions office of a college?
seems like a cool job
W
yes but only for a couple of years
the uc's recruit ever year to read apps
that's pretty fair
are most people active on here international?
i think its very 50-50
like i feel like almost everyone active is international so far 😭
im from India lol
are u an international?
didn't ed2 cuz money tho
nah i’m domestic
are u CBSE tho lol
rd gang 💪💪💪
yes 😍
im only active on this thread
i am gonna kms
but perhaps you're right
what did people apply as
i don't do CBSE but i feel you as well. My boards are starting on Monday and I was really hoping I got this decision before everything started 😭
literally watching a movie bro i give up on boards
Computational and Applied Math 😻
law, letters, and society
cute!
for law, letters, and society is it more focused on american law?
and american society?
i applied as stat/math
ofc
cuz america's the only relevant country
also i wonder if i should do Stat or Math, if i can only choose one
why only choose 1 tho
they both have so much intersection
like u can complete those 2 majors with 17 classes
i fucking love statistics. its soo cool
damn
math stat econ is a bit complicated
fair yeah
cuz when u have math stat econ
well i was wondering bc i think it would be interesting to learn about american law from an international perspective
i will prob be doing CS
u have the choice to intersect math/stat or math/econ
why cs at uchicagooo
math stat and CS
bro do like any other major
lmaoooo
as mid as the department
wdym future roles
u wanna go into swe?
if thats the case then sure ig
but yeah uchicago cs does lack a lot
quant does not need cs lmao
coding yeah but not a cs major
wait ur intl right
why do tech when ur intl 
nah afaik you do need to take the cs systems and algo classes and what not
why 😭
definitely but there's also a lot of theory and analysis of international law and legal systems
for intls?
if ur not working in america
also i think the tech job market is pretty good internationally too…
ok yeah ur p fucked
u dont get paid tho
might as well be a stand up comedian
😭
im intl too
and i can say i wdve been fucked with the h1b
but my country has a good big finance scene
it's growing in India so he could just come back here when, hopefully, the countries develops more and more
damn
i think he’s from Dubai no?
whats swe
someone answer that for me pls
software engineering
yeye
Was gonna do that originally
just pursue what intrests you 🤷♀️
since i am interested anyway
any skills you study can be applied to sm jobs
I2U mindset
it's the day old debate isn't it
🙏🏻
yeah
soft skills are just as valued as computational/ learned skills
genuinely tho like u actually have to care abt money
interest vs money. you're lucky if what interests you also pays
like at least consider it
i think
its imprudent and childish not to
lmao yeah
something will always pay
idk why we’re acting like you’re not gonna find a job if you pursue cs at uchicago
cs outside america does not pay well
also @rugged field is it that bad for intls?
like is working in the US out of question
he could also just stay in the us…
bruh ffs
💀
yea that was my point as well
like why are we so pessimistic
do you have any numbers to back this up?
but its cuz there r so many intls who are already sponsored that u have an 11% chance (lottery) to get sponsored by the h1b
i know a lot of tech companies and finance companies offer H1B to green card pathways
that’s how my parents got theirs after only 10 years
just search it up, you'll see the difference
yeah thats cuz its easy during their time
Look at UK school CS grad salaries on the UK gov uni explorer and compare to US college scorecard
even for a T5 student?
h1b is j random
idk but i think this person would def have options in regards to employment
don’t they alr have h1b?
just asked if you had any numbers for it..
nothing else
not talking to u
and if they don’t why are international students even applying to us schools…
h1b is for work
like it seems like studying and finding a job in the US is such a difficult and hard task
besides
and it's an 11% chance lottery now, and only going down
as a stem major, i still get 3 years
yeah fair
i will prob move to dubai
i have lived in the gulf all my life
💀
- if i have experience and a good college i should be good
alr i checked this
back in 2013 there was no lottery
as expected
for the green card?
for h1b
i mean
oh i see i see
4 + 3 years to rizz someone up
7 years
🙏
sounds solid
thank you
saudi
OH my bad my bad
but reside in saudi
damn i was gonna say you could rizz and say “i can show you the burj khalifa”
but that doesn’t rlly work anymore
yup!
sammeeee
nah getting someone isnt the hard part, its marrying someone by 25 💀
they are a current student
if i am not mistaken
they dont have a cheklist per say so
BITCH
anyway let’s see how this goes down
I feel like I have a small shot but it’s not a whole lot
what are your stats
3.63 UW and 3.93W
But I nearly maxed out my APs and dual enrollment
T/O though
basically im a bit apprehensive but demographics probably come into play
mm thats good, good luck!
I genuinely believe they announced it because of the email
One more week until rejection 💪
“Let it be known that I tried.”
bruh
god i wanna get in so bad
does anyone know how odyssey scholars works if u get in
it’s not automatic for all fgli right
fr
Isn’t it based on being a first-gen?
its first gen but idk if its need or merit based or both
First gen and/or need based
So if ur a first gen admit you just get it
Or no
oh
so if im poor but not first gen
i qualify?
I’m poor as shit and a first gen so I reckon if I got in I’d get it
Considering I fall under the income threshold for a full ride
ohhh
I’m 90% sure you do - i think odyssey is defined as families under like 120k or 125k / year
which gets you free tuition
then under 65k is auto full ride
afaik odyssey is all need based
How’d everyone do?
for wut
Nvm wrong chat I was looking for Michigan
nice
so the free tuition thing is like because of odyssey
i thought fin aid covered it
is finaid not odyssey??
actually im probs wrong
i know almost nothing abt this
other than the fact that phoenix scholars get $5k yearly (first gen)
well yeah i think it’s called the odyssey scholarship or smth on the finaid package? that’s what it says on my net cost calculator
and getting that on your finaid makes you an odyssey scholar?
that’s my understanding of it
im not a uchi student (YET 🙏🙏🙏) so I can’t say for sure tho
thank u :’)
oh shit
i got 75%
scholarship preparation 12
the teacher said i was at an A
nah bc im at 95%+ for everything else
this is so fucked
is it cuz of u or the teacher
the teacher, i told her i needed a 97 to keep my gpa and i would drop otherwise. she told me i didnt need to drop the course and my grade was fine (she didnt tell me my mark)
wdym she didnt tell u ur mark
i asked her for it and she said to wait until report cards came out
like she doesnt even give out our marks for assignments
so theres no way to know at all
im actually screwed
i dont know how i can fix this
just try to get a redo on whatever assignment took you down and some schools let teachers change grades for the last quarter even after grading deadlines but they'll have to fill out some paperwork and stuff
at least that's for my school system
and then just update the schools with that updated midyear transcript
ok I’ll try that
is this for intls too?
if you applied for need based finaid, i think so? :o
but idrk
they meet 100% need for intls
yup
no but i heard somewhere
they milk even the last couple thousands from internationals
😭
MY MOM SAID I CAN DYE MY HAIR IF I DONT GET IN TO UCHICAGO 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
We have 6 days till judgement day
you have 6 days, i have a month
(rd gang💪)
Longest six days of my life incoming
nice
98% chance that ur dying ur hair
more like
u can be 98% confident that u'll die ur hair

Rd gangggg
🥰🥰
1% acceptance rate gang
Y’all got this
why does ur mom have to do with ur hair
i wanna get mine done also im just gonna do it without telling them lol they cant be telling us what to do
get a valentines
If I get into Chicago I'll dye my hair uchicago red
No lie
Somebody better hold me to that when I get in
i know that's why i made the bet 🤭🤭🤭
i still live under her roof😭
The more I hear about parents like yours the more I love mine
same
go bald instead
sAME

if i get into uchicago i will adopt a rather cheerful mood
my chances are lower 😔
that's close to the only thing that'd get me to do that
A friend of mine offered me $500 to get a buzz cut and I didn't take it
I love my hair
bruh
I really don't think I could handle it
I don't wanna look like every other white guy at my school
how much does legacy matter for uchicago
It's considered but the extent to which it is isn't clear
appreciate it
damn
sosososo nervous for this one
it can be nerve wracking
but you can't do anything besides wait
best of luck
and maybe try to keep your mind on other things
it'll help the days tick down
same but at this point ive exhausted everything
the good thing is that you know you tried
I feels so stupid because ik I’m getting rejected but I’m still a little nervous for this one
Like I know the outcome and I’m still acting like it could go either way
'cause it could
real
don't count yourself out but also don't expect great news
that's how to approach it
yeah dont say that D: you could get it!! dont lose hope!!
nobody knows how itll go for sure honestly for sure so yeah dont lose hope
but at the same time dont get too attached
wait
did the AOs already also read the RD apps
like are they reading simultaneously
or ed2 first then rd
im just wondering if like the ed2 applicants are considered within the context of the rd pool because theres some pretty cracked rd applicants from my city
they are way larger 😭
5 days till judgement day
My school has decided to bestow a professional development date on Friday and give us no school
Which means I don’t have anything to keep my mind off of results for the whole morning 😭
I’m gonna wake up with no purpose and wander around like a zombie for a good half of the day lmao
Gonna sleep in, eat a breakfast consisting of only Oreos, go for a three hour walk, read a whole novel
And then judgement
what model
novel
bro but evening is fine like you can just sleep early if the decision is bad
my bedtime is usually like 11 pm but ea came out 3:30 am my time so i stayed awake the whole night only to get deferred 
YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE
I’m just waiting for a straight up rejection lmaoooo
Dunno any recommendations
Maybe I’ll reread the Iliad
NAW THAT TOOK MONTHS
lol Ed chances are MUCH higher than ea/rd so 💀
i got deferred ea and did rd
it is basically impossible💀
my mom seems to think I'll get in tho
fr
my mom didn't think I'd get into Berkeley tho
So i don't trust her "gut feelings" lmao
Philosophical or ones open to interpretation. A good classic is fine too. If all else fails something that the author wrote as clearly satire.
Wait what my mom too
Insane
Candide by Voltaire is v cool satire!!
She was like “I have a feeling UChicago but high key you’re gonna get rejected by Berkeley”
I also recently read the name of the rose which is def not for everyone but it's a Christian mystery so very religious
sameeee but i got into berkeley so 
Just read a description of it and it’s just my style THANK YOU
OMG SNANHAHCBE CONGRTASTSS
YOU DESERVE IT
Ignore the keyboard smashing I was excited
THANK YOU
HAHA SLAY
im gonna be visiting indiana university when decisions come out
It's v short as well so lmk if you like it 🫡
damn bro
my mom did not expect me to get in
neither did my dad
or my sister
and i will say thats actually p valid
oh yes u did ask why i thought uchicago was 'the one'
- they have ED2 and beggars cant be choosers
- uchicago is good at like every subject im interested in so that made it a better ED2 choice
- i liked the vibe of the school cuz honestly "good work-life balance" is a turnoff for me 💀
those r like my main 3 reasons ig
I just wanna be surrounded by nerds. Kindred spirits.
I literally called UC Hicago a “nerd haven” in my essay, not sure how well that’s gonna go down.
But it’s the truth 😭 if you’re at UCHicago you’re some sort of nerd in one way or another
For me “nerd” is just someone whose a Sophophile
sure
but yeah it is what it is
yk
when i was applying i saw a post
uchicago vs northwestern
many of them vouched for NU cuz they had a better balance & social scene
but i basically instantly preferred uchicago cuz better WLB is j cringe
he sung Uc Hicago’s praises to the nth level
like im not in school for fun anyways (albeit im actually having a lot of fun rn)
the person i respect the most in my life sacrificed a ton of 'fun' so that he can fund my education & life without any monetary concerns 👍
Dude I was just about to type “my immigrant parents did not work their asses off for me to be skipping school
funding the LAMBDA RED
😁
also lambda red was gross like wtf was in it
bruh
the soju was soo good tho
i didnt try
yea but u were at bar
what did phi gamma serve u.
ok
valid
the guy gave us 5 times the notmal anount of shots in a solo cup and we saw him add some other random liquid
so didnt drink there
we just set the cups aside later
last one is so real
tbh the ratio was p even surprisingly
nerd/hustle culture is where its at
damn
yeah i agree
it j feels unsatisfying when ur uni is relaxing
like i'd have a great 4 years but a regretful life after
u shouldve been a bartender keg
on
i come from a school where NOBODY gives a fuck about career/knowledge and honestly its soo suffocating. all people do is vape and create drama 💀
damn
how did u cut it there
i was being dumb
dooorman job?
☠️
was sorta panicked
rip
it doesnt hurt
but its stiff af
the cut barely hurt istg
eventhough it cut through my flesh ngl
put like neosporin or smth
ok
what
ok
ok
what does college+ mean
in college
just means in college
jobs/grad school ig?
aah fair
ut.
it
oh
shutup
@rich sapphire what uni btw
ut hazing is crazy
this uni.
uchicago?
uchi
ofc
ya
crazy
i saw her yesterday
im a first yr 😭
we'll be sophomores if u get in
I feel that. Like is it instant gratification if party/social or the knowledge and work ethic you’ll build in the long term
i like a balance of both
Somebody genuinely asked me “If you’re Chinese, which dynasty is your family from?”
but i would honestly find people who i can have intellectual convos with
Me: Hopefully all dynasties or I wouldn’t be here
to be better time spent
personally i dont like schools which r marketted as 'fun'
thats a red flag
That’s kind of hilarious
well yeah, if u want fun go to state school lmfao
but i feel like
its all personal preference
i am a huge extrovert so i just need to be around people. but it doesnt have to be black out drunk
I crave a balance but I know if there’s a “balance” I’ll be forever tempted by hedonism 💀😭
intellectual convos are so much nicer
Honesty I was gonna list extrovert as a reason too lmao
yeah
yeye i j didnt have a choice
i honestly like workloads
also my fam wd not be nearly as happy if i was at northwestern
compared to uchicago
my parents dont give a shit bro, they just said we aint paying alat 💀 if u wanna go somewhere prestigious, get a full ride or something
unironically
damn
damn alr
i have put so much work
yeah
i wish mine did
obv some parents are toxic asf
with prestige
but some appreciation would have been nice
My parents aren’t giving me a CENT
LMFAO so me
which is why
uchicago appeals to me so much
its like nerd haven
WHAT WHO ELSE SAID THAT
also i wish we could change our essays for ED2
what
my EA essays werent that nice
i did
^
ptsd did
😭
ptsd, i have ptsd from your ptsd messages
theres sm i wish i could change
DAMN BC I SAID THE EXACT SAME THING
Domestic
sheet
i was considering both at some point
went from:
math + Physics/Stats + Physics
Math only
Stat only
math + stat
CAAM
CAAM + Econ
Math + Stat + Econ
LMFAOO
i am still considering Physics
uchicago physics is goated
uchicago physics is probs our 2nd best department
ooo wow
1st is probs pure math
i love physics but idk how much
oh wow what?
i thought it was econ
pure math is THAT good?
i thought econ was uchicagos thing
math stat econ and good combo
i am considering
physics too
whats ur advice
stats too
uchicago + math would be a feeder into ib
The best part is that it can be applied.
I love it sm
hmmm
LMFAO
Statistics is so goddarn interdisciplinary
TRUE TRUE
ITS SO TRUE THO
IT IS LMFAO
IM ACT DEADASS NO ONE CARES ABT ECON
im doing quant econ myself
😭
i dont give 2 shits ab economics
samee
and i also dont give a shit abt econ
for me yes
investment banking or quant lets see
not quant for me, despite my major
IB not for me
quant is hard tho
quant is impossible
so im not taking any risks by comitting to it
true
the worst part of quant is like
i will strengthen my ML part
fair
yes
bad career progression with shit like that
i would say my soft/social skills are my strong suit and they will also not take me that far practically
there is usually no promotions for quants tbh cause their work is pretty much the same
quant is all abt technical prowess
yeye
consulting seems cool
hard to break in and hard to progress
thats why their income is so high
i would love to travel and lie about my job being critical to our economy
im honestly down to take a management consulting job
just work at big 4 and im chilling
why big 4 over mbb
my duke interviewer did investment banking and then broke into consulting for benefits and good promotion abilities
cuz no one gets in mbb
u are at uchicago it shouldnt be that hard no?
she is md at bain so im taking her advice
consulting has INSANE progression
also good pay
in terms of what
same with investment banking
what does that mean
like from an analyst
promotions
that doesnt make any sense
💀
like by definition not everyoen can climb
basically
in software engineering for example
L5 is considered terminal
and most ppl
will stay stuck at that level
unless they REALLY go out of their way
most people will probably stay L3 idk
like 95% i mean
ah i get u
not L3 too cmon
people will go uptil L5 in atleast 10 years
or something
and then stay stuck at that level, cause u are not expected to progress further
hows the scene for PM, does anybody get it out of UG there?
in mbb it takes almost 15 years to become md
yes
big 4 a bit less
i dont keep in track
to partner?
💀
MD is crazy
imagine being what
in your 30s
